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As We Reported 6 Years Ago: The Pentagon Is Using AI Programs To Predict How People - e.g. Americans - Will React To Propaganda

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The Guardian reports (h/t Tyler Durden):

The activities of users of Twitter and other social media services were recorded and analysed as part of a major project funded by the US military, in a program that covers ground similar to Facebook’s controversial experiment into how to control emotions by manipulating news feeds.

 

Research funded directly or indirectly by the US Department of Defense’s military research department, known as Darpa, has involved users of some of the internet’s largest destinations, including Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest and Kickstarter, for studies of social connections and how messages spread.

 

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Several of the DoD-funded studies went further than merely monitoring what users were communicating on their own, instead messaging unwitting participants in order to track and study how they responded.

 

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The project list includes a study of how activists with the Occupy movement used Twitter as well as a range of research on tracking internet memes and some about understanding how influence behaviour (liking, following, retweeting) happens on a range of popular social media platforms like Pinterest, Twitter, Kickstarter, Digg and Reddit.

 

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Unveiled in 2011, the SMISC [Social Media in Strategic Communication] program was regarded as a bid by the US military to become better at both detecting and conducting propaganda campaigns on social media.

 

“Through the program, Darpa seeks to develop tools to support the efforts of human operators to counter misinformation or deception campaigns with truthful information.” ["Truthful" as in government-approved? ]

 

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Studies which received military funding channeled through IBM included one called “Modeling User Attitude toward Controversial Topics in Online Social Media”, which analysed Twitter users’ opinions on fracking.

 

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“As another example, when anti-government messages are spread in social media, government would want to spread counter messages to balance that effort and hence identify people who are more likely to spread such counter messages based on their opinions.”

 

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A study at Georgia Tech … concluded: “Breaking news stories and world events – for example, the Arab Spring – are heavily represented in social media, making them susceptible topics for influence attempts via deception.” [We can't tell if the researchers were pro or anti-deception; but given that the U.S. and Britain have used Twitter to intentionally spread falsehoods in other countries, we can take a wild guess.]

 

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One of multiple studies looking into how to spread messages on the networks, titled “Who Will Retweet This? Automatically Identifying and Engaging Strangers on Twitter to Spread Information” did just this.

 

The researchers explained: “Since everyone is potentially an influencer on social media and is capable of spreading information, our work aims to identify and engage the right people at the right time on social media to help propagate information when needed.”

This story can only really be understood with a little context:

  • We noted 6 years ago that the Pentagon is using artificial intelligence programs to try to predict how people will react to propaganda

Postscript:   We explained one aspect of this story – the importance of controlling which stories “go viral” – in February:

The government spends a great deal of manpower and money to monitor which stories, memes and social movements are developing the momentum to actually pose a threat to the status quo.  For example, the Federal Reserve, Pentagon, Department of Homeland Security, and other agencies all monitor social media for stories critical of their agencies … or the government in general.   Other governments – and private corporations – do the same thing.

 

Why?

 

Because a story gaining momentum ranks high on social media sites.  So it has a high probability of bursting into popular awareness, destroying the secrecy which allows corruption, and becoming a real challenge to the powers-that-be.

 

“Social proof” is a related concept.  Social proof is the well-known principle stating that people will believe something if most other people believe it. And see this.  In other words, most people have a herd instinct, so if a story ranks highly, more people are likely to believe it and be influenced by it.

 

That is why vested interests go to great lengths – using computer power and human resources – to monitor social media momentum.   If a story critical of one of these powerful entities is gaining momentum, they will go to great lengths to kill its momentum, and destroy the social proof which comes with alot of upvotes, likes or recommendations in social media.

 

They may choose to flood social media with comments supporting the entities, using armies of sock puppets, i.e. fake social media identities. See this, this, this, this and this.

 

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Fri, 07/11/2014 - 11:38 | 4947196 dexter_morgan
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So, how long until it is mandatory we all have Facebook accounts? No fun for MIC if people can CHOOSE not to participate.

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 11:16 | 4947130 SilverMoneyBags
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I actually was a 37F - Psychological Operations Specialist in the US Army from 2003 to 2007. Conducting these experiments is against US law. We were constantly told that Americans were an illegal target audience to conduct PSYOP against. These people should be arrested and thrown in prison immediately and tried for treason against the citizens of the United States.

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 11:33 | 4947187 George Washington
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Thanks, SMB.

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 09:43 | 4946837 r0mulus
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George, some of the links in your bottom quoted section are dead. Might you be able to revive them?

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 08:02 | 4946633 Notsobadwlad
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So, you don't think we have all been part of that experiment (or one like it) do you?

... although the ZH effort has most likely been contracted out to Goldman Sachs.

Must control both sides of the argument, dontchaknow.

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 06:24 | 4946532 Memedada
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What a simplistic, bitter and unimaginative view on social media. Right now you’re participating in a social media. What’s the opposite? An anti-social media?

For sure, most people are sheeples and so it will be – until (hopefully) we get a turn of tides (an enlightenment, a revolution, a paradigm shift,  a crash – or more likely a combination).

The social medias are like all other medias (newspapers, books, television, radio etc.) dependent on the people who contribute to them and the people who uses them.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 22:53 | 4946120 robnume
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I simply won't do social media of any kind. I'd rather curl up with a good book than spend my leisure time begging for "friends" on Facefuck. What a narcissistic concept social media is.

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 00:29 | 4946289 conscious being
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The problem you can't deal with is that all over the world, people are waking up to the damage done to the world by the ongoing bankster ponzi financial fraud.  When Vladomir Putin's Russia takes a stand against the bankster / war monger system, people respond with applause.

I say people respond in a positive way because they are sick of the war carnage and fraud that our ponzi system enables and requires.

You say its because they are paid?!?  Well who's more likely to have paid trolls on an English language web site, the unlimited fiat printing banksters?? Among whom, The Fed, The Pentagon, Homeland Security, the hasbra hit squads [ie. GIYUS] all acknowlecge a duty to distort online media on their behalf, like you for example, or The Kremlin.  

Do you have to check under you bed at night to check for scary, well-paid, fluent English speaking Russians, weilding scary arguments for which you have no good answer??

 

You are projecting your behavior on others.  Others in this case being those scary Russians you are so afraid of.

 

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 04:40 | 4946499 Duffy Duck
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You are projecting your behavior on others.

yes. he is.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 21:05 | 4945810 GeoffreyT
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Personally I have little-to-no fear of .gov "AI" - especially if it's the result of .mil contracting (e.g.,DARPA).

A .gov AI would be the 'F35' of AIs: it would be unfit for purpose, cost 5x any sensible budget, arrive a decade late, and be vulnerable to countermeasures (i.e., obsolete) before launch.

See also: V22 Osprey (the Marines 'suicide plane'); LCS (Littoral Combat Ship); and so forth.

.gov is not in the business of making shit that works: it's in the business of transferring billions of dollars to cronies.

 

I've said this before: the internet is winning. There is no end-game available to .gov that even results in a stalemate: as the printing press ended Church hegemony, so the internet is ending State hegemony.

 

Bear in mind that the church-hegemony-ending ramifications of the printing press (the last great 'equaliser' of the information-dissemination battlescape) took almost four hundred years to bear fruit; during that time thousands of dissenters were marginalised, calumniated, expropriated, imprisoned, tortured, and killed (all perfectly 'legally', of course: every power clique has its Yoos and Barrons). Power never gives up power without a fight.

(Also... without the printing press, no Thomas Paine, and ergo no American or French Revolution - even John Adams understood that: "Without the pen of the author of Common Sense, the sword of Washington would have been raised in vain."  )

That said, the rate of change of the information battlespace since the 1990s has been several orders of magnitude faster than the rate of change after Gutenberg.

 

Final analysis: we win, and we win soon (in historical terms). We will win before the end of this century  - and before 2050 if CO2 becomes an industrial feedstock before 2030 (which is very likely): the anthropogenic climate change shibboleth becomes exposed as hoax when the current research into using CO2 as an industrial input bears fruit... and since AGW is the largest global public-sector trope in human history (apart from religion), its final exposure as charade will be a significant humiliation to the global political class; will cause massive reputational damage for crying "wolf!"; and will be evidence of their inability to foresee intrinsically-predictable technological responses to putative "problems".

TL;DR: teh.internetz is a Remnant-enabler. The Remnant is what eventually kills the State.

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 11:40 | 4947205 George Washington
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"research into using CO2 as an industrial input".

You've peaked my curiousity.  Links?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 21:11 | 4957608 GeoffreyT
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There is already one use of CO2 as an input into fuel production - using a genetically-modified cyanobacterium (simply put: synechococcus elongatus was modified so that it eats CO2 and shits isobutanol).

Although it's relatively early days, there is also the technology from an Australian-Israeli Jv (see here) and even newer work on development of CO2-converting catalysts (see here).

Bear in mind that this is only the beginning of this sort of research: an historical analogy would be the first time that some poor doofus noticed that the brown ooze seeping out of the ground caught fire... it took some time thereafter, but eventually we got past the 'knee' of that development and things proceeded apace - Kurzweil's "accelerating pace of change" took over, and thus from from cracking crude (~1890s) to mass cheap transportation took less time than the forecast horizon of most climate models.

 

Apart from fuel research, there is also the extraordinary pace of nanotech (and related) research. A central important feature of future nanotech, will be its ability to directly manipulate things at a molecular level - and its ability to drag CO2 into its processes, split it, and use the C (for graphene and graphine) and the O for catalysis. (There is already plenty of nanotech literature on using nanotubes as catalysts for fuel research - but I'm more interested in its use directly as an input into making stuff... think "The MakerBot of the mi-21st century")

At this stage, the "CO2 as input into nanomanufacture" is somewhat speculative (by which I mean, obvious, unimpeded by insurmountable constraints, but not yet implemented). That is to say, it's speulative in  much the same way as Feynman's forecast that we could store the entire Encycloaedia Britannica stored on the head of a pin was 'speculative' in his 1959 talk "There's PLENTY of Room at the Bottom".

 

Here we are, 2 generations later, and the entire Encyclopaedia Britannica takes up less than 1% {correction: 3%} of the storage space on my phone. (Not that I would bother doing so: who needs EB at all anymore?)

 

And of course I ought to link to other speculative work - Drexler's 'extension' of Feynman's talk, for example. (Hope that link works - it has a non-standard character in it).

 

And also this (also by Drexler)

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 12:18 | 4947326 VWAndy
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www.Fischer-Tropsch.org    This is one of the answers to the worlds energies issues. This info has been in hiding for 50+ years. Basically if you can burn it you can turn it into really clean fuels and some other very good products.

Sasaol is doing great things with it in SA. They are not the only ones either.

 

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 10:05 | 4946897 r0mulus
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i'd like to explore this more:

"the anthropogenic climate change shibboleth becomes exposed as hoax when the current research into using CO2 as an industrial input bears fruit"

can you post any supporting links or information?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 21:42 | 4957695 GeoffreyT
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The "CO2 will be n input into production by the middle of this century" is almost too obvious to require ocumenting - but I put a bunch of links (some academic, some speculative) in my reply to George Washington.

 

The "hoax" part is simple - anybody with the remotest understanding of the parametic sensitivity of models consisting  of complex non-linear systems of equations (e.g., me - it was my PhD topic) knows that climate modelling makes astrology look good by comparison.

I also giggle that the wet-brained leftists who pin their entire schtick on climate models that purport to forecast a century, are precisely the same peope who bray indignantly that economic models that forecast 2 years are "all based on assumptions"; cannot account for "inherent uncertainty"; and so on and so forth... it is from this that one can deduce that either their aceptance of climate models,or their rejection of economic models, or both, are entirely based on bad faith.

 

The hoax is in the closure; it's in the parameter estimates (how they're obtained and their statistical significance, jointly); it's in the sensitivity analyses (none of which are done systematically); and it's even in the underlying data (e.g., revising the past, downwards).

 

Climate modelling is very very similar to the theory of planetary epicycles: it is undertaken by those with the State's imprimatur, using State funding, to attempt to reinforce a trope or set of tropes that the State wants to take hold in the public mind.

 

And as with epicycles, each time the output is rejected by subsequent observation (e.g., zero warming for almost a generation, outside the previous forecast bounds for almost all models), there is a change in nomenclature and the Cardinals promulgate a set of official reasons as to why the forecasts failed (but that everything is still precisely as they said it was in those failed forecasts... or perhaps even worse). As with all State enterprises, failure simply generates a bigger budget: only in the public sector and its camp-followers,  can one 'fail upwards'.

 

If the economic modelling think-tank at which I worked in the 1990s had performed as badly as the climate modelling crowd (in terms of "forecast vs actual" - as opposed to their propaganda role) that think-tank would have been shunned by potential clients (as Greenspan's forecasting consultancy was, in the 1970s: it went broke).

As it stands, CoPS has continued to be viewed as one of the pre-eminent economic modelling outfits in the world (for example, it built the USAGE model for the US State Department).

The climate change trope is a device - its aim is to get people to support taxation of energy use. The political class want to tax energy use because demand for energy is highly inelastic (the same reason they tax alcohol, tobacco and motor vehicle fuel)... taxes on inelastic demand is highly revenue-adequate because demand doesn't fall proportionately to the increase in price engendered by the tax.

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 10:41 | 4947020 failsafe
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see work by Spencer Weart for a somewhat more balanced view.

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 03:51 | 4946475 Bunders
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Keep the failures public and the successes secret. How much new technology that has gone into a working secret project was developed for these failed boondogles?

The US Mil spent money developing a jetpack that was eventually scrapped. Waste of money? Maybe not, the engines developed for it went into use in the Tomahawk cruise missile. Maybe that was the point from the start and the jetpack was just a smokescreen for foreign intelligence.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 21:22 | 4945889 Reaper
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You have hope. Their enemies are ignorance and trust. Government is an assumption that someone knows better. Doubt assaults its outer defenses. The government's masterminds are dolts.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 20:46 | 4945770 VWAndy
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Killing the messanger creates more and vallidates the message. At least it does with the ones willing to think for themselves.

 Always concider the source. If it is on TV its PR. Thats true for radio too. If it does not have a comment section for each piece its most likely bs. Read the comments and judge for yourself each comment that fits with what you know to be true. This works if you can be honest with yourself. Over time dogma gets easy to spot.

 My first real boss lived it in his youth. He never could understand how we could not know it was all PR.

 My favorite are the its a lost cause shills. They are great at pointing out all thats wrong. No solution is possible lets all just roll over and take it. Some of those are real fn sharp. Just a little too jaded.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 20:02 | 4945585 Reaper
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Programs that know how people act are always based upon the past and the common sheeple. Government propagandists and their trolls want to Pavlovian train the receivers of information to react to their stimulus in a pro government manner. Their problem is that doubt is also being trained into the receivers brains. People absorb lots of info and process it later, while at sleep or sub consciously. For most, their brain stays with the status quo, but some think and begin to doubt. Others trust no one and think, or automatically doubt government. Doubt is gaining rapidly and the government central planners for propaganda are refighting the last war.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 23:58 | 4946237 disabledvet
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Commanders need facts and run on truth. A "disinformation campaign" has a shelf life of about 48 hours...if its REALLY good.

disinformation using the internet? Good luck with that. The only "lie" that works in social media is the same one repeated over and over again.

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 08:30 | 4946682 Reaper
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Doubt on disinfo can become contagious.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 20:21 | 4945672 El Vaquero
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That is in line with what I have said about anybody who uses "test" cases to see how the public will react and how much it will put up with.  I have stated that they are linear thinkers.  If food is cheap, cable TV has everything on, etc... making times good, people will put up with a lot more than when times are bad.  Also, something that when done once or twice is merely an annoyance can make people snap when done over and over.  When it comes to human behavior, just because something worked the last 10 times does not mean that it will work the 11th.   The government is playing with fire here.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 19:48 | 4945547 Notsobadwlad
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One of the keys to freedom is discernment. By flooding the people with propaganda they accelerate the learning of discernment and accelerate their doom.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 23:31 | 4946188 SameAsItEverWas
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Why reinvent the wheel?

read Harry Elmer Barnes (1926) History and Social Intelligence, here  http://bookator.net/?p=695441 or mo betta ... in new-condition unread hardcover from a bookstore in Brooklyn for four bucks plus shipping (see Alibris).

Be brave and find out what would have been titled "The History of Social Stupidity" if it was from one of the ZH bloggers for the popular press.  Narnes was an academic back in the days when tenure was respected, not like today when all the tenured professors who contributed chapters to Paul Zarembka's Elsevier Press book on 9/11 were forced out of academia. 

Barnes was a historian's historian, a historical sociologist and a sociological historian.  He explains everything.

mises.org has just a few of his minor works for download but none of them hold a candle to Social Intelligence. 

Am I the only one here who reads Barnes?  Drop me a line.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 19:42 | 4945534 Zenseless
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Instead of sending counter messages, why don't they just kill the original message generator.....after all, they know who you are......

 

Did I really just say that?

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 18:41 | 4945281 AdvancingTime
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 Just over a year ago I stumbled upon a blog on WordPress .com written by Gerry Spence who was born and educated in the small towns of Wyoming where he has practiced law for almost fifty-five years. As a  nationally known figure in the legal system Spence  has spent his lifetime representing and protecting victims of the legal system from what he calls The New Slave Master: big corporations and big government. Below is a disturbing take on society put out there by Gerry Spence and the idea that we have become no more than slaves.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2012/02/we-are-all-slaves-interesting-tho...


Thu, 07/10/2014 - 18:33 | 4945240 TheFulishBastid
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Same as it ever was.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 22:57 | 4946126 SameAsItEverWas
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You rang?

Lurch

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 18:07 | 4945129 yellowsub
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Did htey really have to waste money on that?  Of course the sheeple will believe everything that happens and what the gov't says.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 23:56 | 4946230 conscious being
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They are studying how to better fine tune the illusion, given all the improved data mining potential they now have at their disposal.

They want to make a better mind prison.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 17:56 | 4945091 failsafe
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I want to upvote this article 1 zillion times.  If they want to use the little red arrows they can go to hell.

:)

Otherwise ...I got nothing else I can do.  It reminds me of the everything they say is a lie problem.  Or the highly relatavist philosophical types who say there is no "truth" or no "objective truth."  The first thing I say back is, well, so are you saying THAT is true? That there is no truth? So all I know to do is decide who to believe the best way I know how.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 23:49 | 4946225 conscious being
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Stop participating so that you do not help to prop up the beast.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 17:51 | 4945072 failsafe
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I want to upvote this article 1 zillion times.  If they want to use the little red arrows they can go to hell.

:)

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 23:47 | 4946218 conscious being
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Upvote a trillion times ...

Me too, but I just want to add, its not just social media, its TV, Hollywood, book publishing and newspapers that all push the bankster line.

 

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 17:27 | 4945003 moneybots
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"We noted 6 years ago that the Pentagon is using artificial intelligence programs to try to predict how people will react to propaganda"

 

How will people react when they find out government propaganda was false?

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 17:08 | 4944959 kchrisc
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"As We Reported 6 Years Ago: The Pentagon Is Using AI Programs To Predict How People - e.g. Americans - Will React To Propaganda"

Can they see my guillotine?!

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:58 | 4944935 ThisIsBob
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GIGO

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:44 | 4944873 Cannon Fodder
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Anyone remember the tv series Harsh Realm which I think was made out of a comic book. The premise was that the DoD had made a computer program which replicated the world down to every man, woman and child and place. That was a show back in the mid '90s. Sound familiar?

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:27 | 4944830 alexcojones
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BTW, Keep up the good work George.

Another excellent post

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:25 | 4944828 alexcojones
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More quotes about Lee Harvey and the Wall of Heroes at CIA.

    “So wait, does that mean that the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination, or that Oswald just happened to be working for them at the time and got caught up in the dragnet, or what?” complained analyst Dean Paulino. “You can’t just do something like this and not explain it further!”

Oswald’s alleged CIA connections date back to his time as a junior-enlisted radar operator in the Marines during the 1950s, when he was identified as an ideal candidate for covert intelligence work."

   Lots of good books (few movies) on Amazon outline the complex double or triple agent Lee Oswald.

  Couple of very readable short books I recommend:

Kill Zone: A Sniper Looks at Dealey Plaza:

Oswald and the CIA: The Documented Truth …

The Guns of Dallas:
Fri, 07/11/2014 - 01:04 | 4946360 XuscitizenSweden
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alexcojones, you wrote "Oswald’s alleged CIA connections date back to his time as a junior-enlisted radar operator in the Marines during the 1950s, when he was identified as an ideal candidate for covert intelligence work."

Well the fact is Oswald was stationed off the coast of Japan at a clandestine SIGNIT base, listning to/intercepting sovijet communications. Like it or not here's a story for all of you here at ZH.

My high school history/philosphy teacher was stationed with Oswald at this super secret spy base. In such close-quarters it was impossible not to expose what one was for human being. 'Teach' said he never, ever would believe Oswald shot JFK. Not possible, period!!! 'Teach' was a very highly respected member of the school's faculty & very credible. He wasn't afraid to talk about, when asked, what he knew. "If they kill me, they kill me". First time I heard about all this was in the late 60's.

Yepp, the MF:s shot JFK. Oswald was exactly what he said he was....,"I'm the Patsy".

Fri, 07/11/2014 - 01:04 | 4946359 XuscitizenSweden
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alexcojones, you wrote "Oswald’s alleged CIA connections date back to his time as a junior-enlisted radar operator in the Marines during the 1950s, when he was identified as an ideal candidate for covert intelligence work."

Well the fact is Oswald was stationed off the coast of Japan at a clandestine SIGNIT base, listning to/intercepting sovijet communications. Like it or not here's a story for all of you here at ZH.

My high school history/philosphy teacher was stationed with Oswald at this super secret spy base. In such close-quarters it was impossible not to expose what one was for human being. 'Teach' said he never, ever would believe Oswald shot JFK. Not possible, period!!! 'Teach' was a very highly respected member of the school's faculty & very credible. He wasn't afraid to talk about, when asked, what he knew. "If they kill me, they kill me". First time I heard about all this was in the late 60's.

Yepp, the MF:s shot JFK. Oswald was exactly what he said he was....,"I'm the Patsy".

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 18:47 | 4945310 sgt_doom
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Obviously, the CIA within the CIA (control elements within the agency) were responsible, following the directions of the five richest families led by the Rockefellers, in the murder of the Kennedy brothers and Rev. King.

Oswald, as his former roommate at El Toro NAS stated (who would later become a federal judge):  Oswald was an agent for the CIA in Russia and later probably in America, and had nothing to do with the assassination of the president.

And Oswald was a Russian linguist with the Naval Security Group, he was last stationed at El Toro to learn ATC/radar tech for his Russian op.

So much has been crowed sourced (researched) by so many superior people by this point that the obvious is quite well known:  Lucien Conein was one of the shooters, the other being a hit man from the Union Corse (or Corsican Brotherhood) brought over by Conein of the CIA (who had been flown in from Vietnam for his vile mission); three teams, one at the grassy knoll area (the Union Corse shooter, who missed Connelly), the other at the train overpass (Conein), and a third at the Dallas School Book Depository.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 22:31 | 4946075 moneybots
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"Lucien Conein was one of the shooters, the other being a hit man from the Union Corse (or Corsican Brotherhood) brought over by Conein of the CIA (who had been flown in from Vietnam for his vile mission); three teams, one at the grassy knoll area (the Union Corse shooter, who missed Connelly), the other at the train overpass (Conein), and a third at the Dallas School Book Depository."

 

The same bullet that hit JFK in the back, struck Connally.  There was one shooter, Oswald.

It doesn't take 3 people to shoot someone riding in an open limo at 12 miles an hour.

 

 

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 17:22 | 4944987 moneybots
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OswalD killed JFK for his own personal reasons.

Basically, it was a crime of opportunity.  He worked in the building that he fired the shots from.  Had there been no motorcade, JFK would have flown back to Washington, alive.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 18:48 | 4945314 sgt_doom
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What a complete and total douchetard --- reading is obviously not your strong point, and neither have you ever qualifed as a rifle expert.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 22:25 | 4946055 moneybots
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"What a complete and total douchetard --- reading is obviously not your strong point, and neither have you ever qualifed as a rifle expert."

 

How silly.  All the credible evidence pointed directly at Oswald. 

Oswald was trained in the Marine Corps and was capable of hitting JFK at 65 and 88 yards from the 6th floor window.

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