What's Wrong With This Chart?

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The consensus estimate for US GDP growth in 2014 has collapsed. 4 months ago, the world of serial extrapolators and mean-reverters prognosticated that 2014 GDP would reach the lofty heights of 2.9%. Today - on the heels of numerous micro- and macro-fundamental realities, consensus US GDP growth for 2014 has been marked down to 1.7%. Is it any wonder US equity markets are within 1% of their all-time highs?


Don;t worry though - the Fed is still bullish:


You can't make this stuff up!!

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Thu, 07/10/2014 - 15:46 | 4944669 slotmouth
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Looks like the normal death cross that we've come to expect with stocks v. gdp estimates.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 15:49 | 4944682 Say What Again
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What's Wrong With This Chart?

The SP500 has not gone up as fast as it has in the past. Just look the 1980s thru 2000. We should be MUCH higher by now.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:03 | 4944731 Ham-bone
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What's wrong with this chart?

NO ARROWS!!!  Complete lack of arrows?  Without them I'm lost...

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:12 | 4944752 hedgeless_horseman
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Thank God I mortgaged the farm to buy the iShares 4X GDP deflator ETF!

\operatorname{GDP\ deflator} = \frac{\operatorname{Nominal\ GDP}}{\operatorname{Real\ GDP}}\times 100

In practice, the difference between the deflator and a price index like the Consumer price index (CPI) is often relatively small. On the other hand, with governments in developed countries increasingly utilizing price indexes for everything from fiscal and monetary planning to payments to social program recipients, the even small differences between inflation measures can shift budget revenues and expenses by millions or billions of dollars.



Thu, 07/10/2014 - 18:07 | 4945126 Headbanger
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What's wrong is that GDP estimate number isn't negative!


Thu, 07/10/2014 - 19:20 | 4945451 Ben Ghazi
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"What's wrong with this chart?"

Too Christmasy Bah Humbug!

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:07 | 4944761 starman
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It's a lovely chart emerald green and ruby reds.I love it. 

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:02 | 4944734 knukles
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"Nothing's wrong with it.  As any idiot can see, the forecasts for GDP are too low!"
      -Maria Buttaroma, circa CNBS

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:02 | 4944736 NoDebt
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Up arrow.  I want my endless compound returns.  "I was promised!"

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:51 | 4944913 Silver Bug
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Don't worry, Janet the Dove Yellen is standing by with dump truck loads of money. QE isn't going anywhere. It is here to stay.



Thu, 07/10/2014 - 15:47 | 4944675 gdiamond22
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Looks like the equation for QE and BTFD

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 15:50 | 4944688 101 years and c...
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"whats wrong with this chart?"  this chart doesnt show the fed balance sheet? this doesnt show the 2020 GDP estimates? this doesnt show US GDP once the US adds sales of blow, blowjobs, etc, etc, etc.... 

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 15:50 | 4944695 Bernoulli
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My estimate of 2014 US GDP: -2%.

Just a wild guess. But I'm being nice.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:06 | 4944749 NoDebt
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We only speak in nominal terms 'round these parts, friend.  Nobody wants to hear about no fancy "in-flation" or "GDP deflator" talk from some damned furriner just because you were like some hotshot French Scientist or whatever.  ;)

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 15:51 | 4944697 buzzsaw99
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Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:08 | 4944764 AccreditedEYE
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All this correction stuff getting long in the tooth... when Uncle Carl comes out and talks about valuations and froth you know the move lower is done.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 15:54 | 4944707 NOTaREALmerican
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The worse the news the better it is for stocks.  Buy now or be priced out forever!!

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:01 | 4944716 LawsofPhysics
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Nothing.  With mark to fantasy accounting and no collateral requirements there are no more correlations and such.



Stop trying to figure this "market" out and simply recognize the truth, there is no market for true price discovery.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:00 | 4944718 undercover brother
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NOTHING.  Status quo of astonishing and unbelievable bullshit.    However, one thing we can take away from the chart and from the events of the last 5 years is that Fed monetary policy coupled with daily and/or implied interventions, trumps reality by a very wide margin.    

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:03 | 4944744 Bear
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I thought negative growth was a good thing ... FED must up the ante

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:29 | 4944837 Oldwood
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With the stock market on a constant upward climb and GDP forecasts so low, its just got to go up soon, its just gotta. This is a bullish sign if I have ever seen one.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:03 | 4944745 replaceme
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What is GDP, do they have an app?

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:10 | 4944784 overexposed
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Gotta love those Fun-DURR-mentals!

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:13 | 4944791 crazybob369
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Man, that S&P chart looks like me after I overdosed on some Viagra. Don't need to tell you how it will look like once the stuff wears off.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 16:47 | 4944892 Colonel Klink
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Thu, 07/10/2014 - 17:07 | 4944953 ShrNfr
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After a Q2 print of (maybe) +1%, you are going to have to go at 4%+ for Q3 and Q4 to get that 2%->2.5%. Ain't gonna happen. More downside revisions for the year.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 17:22 | 4944991 oklaboy
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-2, calling -2,,do I hear -2???????

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 23:19 | 4946161 Homer E. Rectus
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I don't get it. I ain't a phd economist, but when they keep revising GDP more than a month after the Quarter ends, how can we have any confidence that they know what the whole year GDP is going to be?

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