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Germany Instructs Its Companies To Limit Cooperation, Procurement Orders With The US
Update: it just got worse. Moments ago Bloomberg followed up with the second, and expected, part of this story, namely that just like China cut off major US corporations from big procurement contracts leading to a collapse in CSCO and IBM Asian revenues, it is now Germany's turn. Per Bloomberg, the German Interior Ministry reviewing rules for awarding govt contracts for computer, communications equipment and services as political rift w/ U.S. widens, people familiar with matter told Bloomberg News’ Cornelius Rahn, Amy Thomson.
- Ministry will probably issue new purchasing guidelines in coming weeks to replace “no-spy-order” dated April 30
- Details being worked out, may require suppliers of components of bidder’s goods or services to guarantee they don’t hand over confidential data
- IBM, CSCO, MSFT may be affected by any tightening of procurement procedures: Forrester Research analyst Andrew Rose
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Congratulations America: after severing ties with Russia, crushing cordial relations with China (leading to this stunning announcement by China's president), alienating France (which is now openly calling for an end to the petrodollar), the Obama administration - following not one, not two, but three spying scandals in just the past year - has managed to sour relations with Germany to a point where one wonders just who is a remaining US ally in Europe these days.
According to Bloomberg, the German chancellor’s office has issued instructions to national intelligence services to limit cooperation with U.S. following alleged U.S. spying case, Bild reports without saying where it got information.
The newspaper also says:
- Instructions cover all activities not related to the immediate security interests of Germany and the safety of German soliders in Afghanistan, other foreign missions and terrorism threats
- Decision to ask U.S. intelligence representative to leave taken July 9 after the regular cabinet meeting at special meeting at Chancellery attended by Chancellery Minister Peter Altmaier, Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen, Justice Minister Heiko Maas and Interior Thomas de Maiziere
- Main reason for decision was failure of U.S. to cooperate in investigation of operations following revelations by Edward Snowden
- Foreign office subsequently gave U.S. Ambassador John Emerson 72 hrs to have U.S. agent leave Germany voluntarily or formal expulsion proceedings would be started against him
- Only 3 of the 218 BND documents sold to CIA were related to Bundestag espionage investigation
That said, the US is hardly be too worried: after all it is a well-known "secret" that of all European leaders with a very checkered past, the NSA has all the goods on Merkel (and her proximity to the communist system in her DDR days), which can and will be disclosed using the proper channels at a moment's notice, with an appropriate (pre-vetted by the State Department of course) replacement in place should relations with Germany truly sour. It certainly explains why despite loud demands for a "formal espionage investigation", nobody in the German government has lifted a finger to find out just how deep the NSA rabbit hole goes.
Look for how big the upcoming DOJ fine levied on Deutsche Bank, will be to evaluate if US-German relations are indeed in any danger of collapse, or if this too is merely another public spectacle to appease the German public which is rightfully furious at Obama for being constantly caught spying on America's biggest European ally.
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WTF is their problem?
It’s not like we stole the family jewels (or gold) or anything like that.
Anyone remember Valerie Plame? LOL!
Maybe, just maybe, the Obama/Jarrett regime is trying to destroy our national standing on the world stage?
Fundamental transformation and all that jazz.
NAHHHHHHHHH.....Ya THINK????
or USA gov is out of control...
"That escalated quickly"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI
the american implosion continues... all designed by a fifth column, which no doubt already has its next host all lined up...
I think that there might be a few folks out there that have not progressed to the level of implicit /sarc.
And it's all intentional. Where are the adults to replace these treasonous children running the country?
"If elected, i will restore America's credibility around the globe..."
"in my second term, i'll have more flexibility"
Why is anyone surprised... They have to break the back of the US in order to implement Agenda 21...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnqvMgyhgYI
Agenda 21, Cloward-Piven ... All's according to orders, Captain.
Seems so.
Germany distancing itself from the US is ominous though. Just look at the events preceding the first two world wars.
Will Germany start booting these US corps out of the fatherland? That would be true retaliation.
It is all part of Obummer's grand plan to force regime change in the USSA.
Obummer is too fucking dumb to have a grand plan.
But why is the USA going down the shitter faster and faster?
Beats me.
It's not Obummer's grand plan, it's the plan of his handlers. He's just a puppet, as are all U.S. presidents.
Yes, ZH veterans have had to resort to a kind of "diplomatic*-double-speak", to avoid getting hoisted (like Francis, RIP).
Which is probably just as well -- as it raises the bar from a vitriolic level of juvenile name-calling, to a more intellectual level that addresses the core issues, and tactics and methods of the "5th Column Enemy" (5CE) of We The People.
* Diplomacy -- the fine art of political verbal ambiguity (wiggle room for future deniability). It is also the fine art of telling someone to go to hell, such that they will enjoy the trip. E.g., Instead of telling someone to F-Off, you may kindly ask them to "Take a long walk off a short pier". ;-)
Kirk out.
Controlled demolition to make way for the one world govt that all the TV watchers know is just a crazy conspiracy theory. Until one day, it isn't.
Drudge right now shows Obammy saluting the NWO's god. For anyone thinking the leaders of other countries disagree, stay tuned.
Are you refering to "hook em horns"? I think he may simply be pandering in this case.
Well said John. Their brilliant shift after World War II from Britain to America was an epic move that insured their continued dominance of world affairs for over 60 years. Where next after they kill off the USA?
While China slowly but sureley yanks Japan away from the American sphere of influence...painful but obvious to watch.
The insidiousness of all of this is appalling. Who's on first? Whats'is name. Too screwed-up to be an accident. I vote the Dreams of My Father guy and his controllers are purposefully making all efforts to destroy the USA and any chance of peace. I vote they are demonic. If we're not in he last days, we're in the last weeks.
It's just a shame that we do not have a Congress that understands its duty to the Constitution.
More likely, the organ grinders at New World Order HQ figure that as long as they have the Obama muppet on a string (as opposed to the Romney Mormon muppet, whom they preferred), have him do a Punch and Judy show with the rest of the world. Great fun all around unless you were in the Two World Trade Center in 2001, when the NWO had its biggest show so far.
Or get lucky like Larry Silverstein. There every morning for breakfast for four years. Then on 9/11 had to vist a dermatologist. What luck!
China cut off major US corporations from big procurement contracts leading to a collapse in CSCO and IBM Asian revenues, it is now Germany's turn. Per Bloomberg, the German Interior Ministry reviewing rules for awarding govt contracts for computer, communications equipment and services as political rift w/ U.S. widens, people familiar with matter told Bloomberg News’ Cornelius Rahn, Amy Thomson.
Who wants to buy hardware or software filled with spyware shit? Companies want to buy a good product not some defective crap that allows people to spy on them. F pro-amnesty and pro-gun control Bloomturd "news" trying to spin it as a political rift. No one wants USA spyware shit. Who would pay for that crap. Boeing too with 777 that disappear.
Are the Germans still cheering for Obama? Silicon Valley - you ***ing VOTED for this F them!
Does it mean that the German government will start using RuPads from now on?
"wtf is their problem " you fucking kidding me ? u the 1st to whine when someone put nose on your shits in the garbage, your country sniff the whole planet, then start to really be pissed of by such behavior and you ask what is the problem ?
ok man, keep watching tv, after all you just gonna be one of the 315 million under the collapse.
Obummer needs to read "How to Make Friends and Influence People."
Instead he's been dutifully following "How to do the banksters' bidding and set the stage for the largest short in history as we destroy the US economy to usher in something different."
eggsfugginxactly
He read the muzzie edition. It involved swords and beheadings.
Obama can read ?
Only the teleprompter.
Unt Mein Kampf
Don't worry Cameron will still go down on him on request
Cameroons crunch.
This is what comes of the arrogance of the Progressive Elite on both the Left AND the Right. Clintons, Bushes, Biden's, Boner's (yes, I know), Pelosi's, McConnel's. These people are driving us down a road to ruin. Libertarian policies supported by Ron Paul have to be the new way forward. Germany is a model of doing things right. Entertainment and "financial innovation" are no way to survive in the world for very long. (Don't talk to me about tech... our "tech" brands continue to piss off the world being in line with our NSA/CIA)
What is really disheartening is that none of this has to do with any particular administration any longer. The world is now effectively governed by a shadow, unelected government that is armed to the teeth thanks to decades of free spending on military hardware under the guise of protecting the "homeland." The MIC and especially the intelligence agenices are now a government unto themselves, serving the interests of those who pull the strings behind the facade of elected officials. They are not governed by the laws that apply to the rest of us, and it's good to be King so they plan to keep it that way.
Yup and they're out in the open in your face with it saying fuck you and WHAT R U GONNA DO ABOUT IT PUNK????
This article is kinda pointless. The shadow rulers can already blackmail everyone they need. Can't put this demon back in the bottle.
Anyone else here been listening to the John Bachelor show as linked over on Turd's site these last few months? These guys (whos motives are unclear to me) do a pretty good job of cataloging the disasterous US policy in the Ukraine.
Its starting to sound like Putin is getting ready to move troops in but is waiting to Germany and France to at least give a tacit approval if not an overt public approval for his intervention. Good thing the US isn't working overtime to alienate them by spitting in their faces over and over and over.
It all stops when USD loses reserve status and dollars can't buy cooperation anymore.
USD is their achilles heel, their weak spot. And someone in that shadow government said "we'll just kill the dollar".
you got that right! governments are fronts for some families and their agendas. always has been, always will be. democracy and that shit is just lipstick on a pig.
+100
Hey, Obama is an Indonesian Communist. Any damage done to the US is a win win win in his book.
Hey Germans -
you guys need to quit with the phony outrage shit...
you r a bunch of bitches...
dont have the balls to demand your Gold back that the US has sold or is hoarding for itself...
dont have the balls to tell the US to shut those bases down and go the fuck home...
dont have the balls to do anything except kick a fucking soccer ball...
hope Messi whips your bitch asses thoroughly...
Fuck off Germany...
ps: i know where my real money is and its ALL THERE.
bitches.
I declare your post the POST OF THE DAY!
It is the US that has already determined the "limits" of German cooperation and any possible non-cooperation with the US.
Germany obviously was not and is not a key insider privy (like the UK) to most of the top NSA-CIA dagger&cloak operations.
Germany does not have access to the US "Gladio" plans to keep any German government from ever becoming "unfriendly" to supposed US "core interests".
US military occupation forces directly and/or through the US-controlled NATO ultimately determine what are the limits to the "independent" policies of Germany, Japan, S. Korea, Iraq, Kosovo, and Afghanistan.
The real problem here: the boobs at the NSA got CAUGHT spying.
The bad news for das Germans is they still trust the Fed with their gold ... LOL
What gold?
There is no gold in USA, they already sold all gold to china,India,etc.
Germans just said - "We know..."
"what Gold...?"
and it's out of there....!
They are continuing with the gold repatriation...
Next country will be one of those 3 - Japan,England, Saudi Arabia. I think about 2-3 months needed.
"According to Bloomberg......"......fuck blowberg!
Anyway, looks like germans have had enough of the amerikkkan miltary occupation & taking orders "Kommen Sie heir Kraut-bastard" from DC. So far, so good.
"According to Bloomberg......"......fuck blowberg!
Anyway, looks like germans have had enough of the amerikkkan miltary occupation & taking orders "Kommen Sie heir Kraut-bastard" from DC. So far, so good.
all your gold bars are belong to us......
molon labe
As Rumsfield said,we have new europe behind us.Who cares about old europe?
Obama couldn't effectively manage a Burger King.
Manage? Fuck, he couldn't operate the cash register.
He's a shoe in for cash register operator. He'll only have to open it once.
Nein! Amerikanischer schweinhund!
The best defense against NSA "info" blackmail is to create your own German "info" blackmail on the US politicians. What is truth becomes impossible to discern in a myriad of disinformation.
Just get Joan Rivers across on a popular chat show to expand on her 'Michelle is transgender' theory. No cloak and dagger stuff required.
Her performance on letterman was pretty damn funny, and I'm not even a Rivers fan!
She's a traitor but a funny one.
A German spy is always the guy with the monicle....
Ah taught ya werk en der kitchen?
"...has managed to sour relations with Germany to a point where one wonders just who is a remaining US ally in Europe these days."
That's easy peasy.
Since British & American political elites crawled out of the same sewer and their security agencies - MI6-CIA, GCHQ-NSA - are joined at the hip with a single operational organisation structure, Britain will always support any illegal activity Washington wants to take.
Belgium ? they are buying US paper.
They thought it was backed by German gold.
Blackmail Mutti by saying that you are not going to tell her voters that the gold is gone.
Complicated.
To the best of my knowledge US paper is being bought in Belgium, but not by the Belgians.
In any case, Belgium doesn't have the military & intel connections with the US that Britain has and doesn't speak English as its first language.
That's what the so-called US-UK special relationship is all about.
That changed recently when the U.K. parliment voted against the invasion of Syria.
There have always been occasional hiccups, so I doubt if it really changed anything. The State agencies are far too closely interwoven for that. And William Hague would have been on the phone to Washington explaining matters and tidying things up. Relations would only change for the worse if Parliament continued to vote against US-UK policies, but they haven't got the spine to do that.
Keep hearing about some NSA shit on Merkel from ye olde cold war days; so fucking what!!!
John McSTAIN's buddy buddy photo op with Al Nusra outstrips ANY supposed merde on Mutti.
Am also confident that Edward Snowden has a plethora of ammunition on the USSA Administration with which Putin would be willing to assist Merkel in further TittyTatty.
+1. In East Grrrrmany or anywhere in USSR, nobody could get a job better than street sweeper unless they were with the Party. Putin joined just to be allowed to play spy vs spy in the old days but he quit when the writing showed up on the wall. Now the real Communists in Russia would dearly love to throw him out of office. As for Merkel, she's more of a capitalist than lots of anti-communists here in USA.
The great irony is that Obama's most touted aspiration during his first election campaign was to bring America in from the cold after growing isolationism of the GW Bush years in the aftermath of the Iraq fiasco. His visits around Europe were met with large crowds cheering.
He's thrown all that away.
You believed him? Seriously?
Millions across Europe did. I always knew that politics would be the final arbiter.
"Millions across Europe did."
That my friend, is a jaw dropping statement. Millions of Americans predicted the disaster that would ensue PRIOR to 2008. Its the obvious answer when an Indonesian community organizer with 3 different aliases is elected POTUS
Whenever we discuss subjects like the promises made by a politician in election campaigns etc, we have to accept that people have a bias towards believing the bullshit that they spew out.
So it was with Obama, European (and American) people wanted to believe he was going to bring America in from the cold after GW Bush. Start a new chapter. He has failed to do that in spades. And he probably always knew that domestic priorities would take priority, so it was just bullshit for TV screens back home.
The guy spent most of his short senate career voting "present". Certainly not the characteristic of someone who believes in representative government. Everything that is happening is happening by design.
I don't know why it put me as a response to you Bob, but don't forget, he got elected in the US. Twice.
Agreed, I simply assumed that Europeans would have looked at it more objectively! And you are correct. Elected twice only proves that ya can't fix stooooopid!
Elected 2x means voting doesn't do anything. See Electoral College
Electoral College means representative government. Remind me again, how electors get pledged.
"The guy spent most of his short senate career voting "present". Certainly not the characteristic of someone who believes in representative government." Actually, if you look at it from a different angle, he's doing exactly what he's always done. He continued the status quo in Chicago, and he continues the status quo as President....but this isn't the sort of job where you can put everything on auto-pilot for years. It's pretty apparent to me that this shithead has been given everything for his entire life, and never worked for anything. He is truly our first affirmative action president. Brought to you by decades of the media telling the general public that white people should somehow feel guilty that minority people can't get their shit together, so just subsidize them. I'd be incensed if I were black. The whole affirmative action platform revolves around the philosophy that minorities are genetically inferior to whites.....and the minorities lap that shit up like candy. Fucking idiots. Maybe they really are inferior?
In 1975 I was transfered to a squadron with a black First class Petty Officer who was up for Chief Petty Officer. He didn't have the marks to make Chief; but, affirmative action had just been implemented and he was awarded Chief. He refused the promotion, said "I'll make it on my own merits next go around, I won't accept a gift based on my race." I have always admired his integrity for that.
I now live in a country where black/people of color have had the American race industry indoctrination. This has lead to a world wide belief that people of color deserve what ever they can get from the "white man". It side tracks their personal integrity, productivity and standard of living. What a mess. Obama exemplifies the afirmative action / race industry reality.
Clare Daly talked about the Irish and European media slobbering over Obama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SX58vqcEU0
WOW. That was explosive.
Damn, if most all of Europe believed this Oreo with the triple stuff filling of bullshit, you really are a bunch of retards. You Eurpeans backing helped get this turd in there, so go fuck yourselves.
so you really think our backing counts anything? smacker is 100% right, above
my two cents: Not Bush. It was and still is that simple. Bush can't even visit Europe, the chance of prosecutors throwing him in jail with charges of war crimes are too high
you could have candidated/voted for a duck, and we would have given that duck standing ovations, a Peace Nobel prize, the works, for not-being-Bush
you can't even glimpse how big the disgust for Bush is, particularly on the continent. you (in both US & UK) have no idea how transparent his network looks, for people here
just lately I was at a party where they were talking about Condoleeza Rice. seven jokes about supertankers in ten minutes. another person that is best not seen, here
Who cares what you Europeans approve of?
ok, let's recap
You: "You Eurpeans backing helped get this turd in there, so go fuck yourselves."
me: "so you really think our backing counts anything?"
You: "Who cares what you Europeans approve of?"
Did we help or did we not? Did it count or did it not? Explain yourself, either we are supposed to fuck ourself because we did something, or you are just blathering
Maybe, just maybe he was that naive, but I'm not so sure. Maybe he got into office and found there was a whole lot more to things than what he knew. I think he said what people wanted to hear just to get elected - lied through his teeth - and then did his worst. I don't know what to make of him. A bone head or a devil.
I think he peddled himself as the new Messiah. We now know he's actually an Imam ;-)
Imam? in my understanding in Islam it's... Imam + political/executive power (prez, Sultan, etc.) = Caliph
Berry was brought in to destroy the US internally by the Oligarchs. He get an A+ for the destruction.
1.) Allow the flood of illegals
2.) Double the debt.
3.) Push more Americans and illegals on the welfare ranks. Rely on the government for everything
4.) Break down the values that made the US great.
Rip up the constitution and get people to support it. Then build a new government.
And a couple billion hollowpoints, to make sure it takes.
On a totally different subject: GOLD
Awesome article today in the conservative Newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung online on the repatriation of German Physical Gold.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/finanzen/devisen-rohstoffe/bundesbank-bei-gol...
I translated some of the paragraphs:
German Bundesbank president knows how important the trust of the citizens is. This is why the central bank opens its doors to the public this weekend (12./13.July) for the first time in history. Thereby, gold can even be touched: In a safety display cabinet there will be a 12.5kg gold bar. The current market value of this gold piece, that is smaller than a carton of milk is about 400.000 EUR. Recently delivered from New York, the precious metal can be touched and lifted, but not taken out of the safety disply cabinet.
...
Although the relocation of the gold began slowly and in 2013, only 37 of the planned 674 tons of gold were transferred from Paris and New York to Frankfurt - Bundesbank director Carl-Ludwig Thiele remains optimistic: "We are on schedule and will be able to meet the schedule." According to earlier data, this year 30 to 50 tons of gold from New York and 50 tonnes from Paris are to be brought to Frankfurt.
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As many of bars coming from New York do not conform to nowadays standards, the Bundesbank will have them remelted. It has been shown that all the doomsday predictions of the critics were unjustified. "With the gold previously relocated to Germany, everything was as it should have been," says Thiele.
In any case, the German central bankers have complete confidence in their American counterparts: "We have no doubts about the integrity of the Federal Reserve
Bank of New York. Our gold is safely stored there. "
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Wow... amazing.
Display one single bar they can touch and lift. And they will believe!
It is nice that they say they will be melting some of it down.
Most people don't assign the same value to it if it is mostly Tungsten.
Melting New York Fed gold may require 3 times the temperature required for traditional gold bars (ie, 3422oC vs 1064oC).
The tungsten needs to be remelted.
good grief; and so what do we call the Moscow-Beijing-Berlin axis, the New New World Order?
The US's remaining allies with be that glowing-assisted-living-community-formerly-known-as-Japan, and Puerto Rico.
"IBM, CSCO, MSFT may be affected by any tightening of procurement procedures..."
Excellent news.
Yep, fuck all 3 of em.
Too bad when the collaborators slit their own throats.
Take it away, Mr. Putin.
But be careful where you put it.
"The sheep, I mean, sleeper must awaken!"
Duke Leto Atriades to his son Paul from the movie "Dune."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6UCkugXn4Y
Does this apply to private business as well?
Opa!
Before this monkey was elected I said he'd be the last nail in the Republics' coffin and the irony is that they're the same color.
I do remember the Head Nigger In Chief crying for "Real Change" and "Fundamentally changing this country"..............................
Why is all of what has happened during this coon's reign of terror surprise anyone?
This walking turd is nothing short of a Muslo-Communist who was never born here. The turd was polished and groomed by the handlers elite to do exactly what he is doing... the last nail in the republic. Everything he does is to further the communist agenda... the New World Order
You forgot the most important, Transparency.
GoldVs, you may be anonymous, Tyler may be anonymous, but the ZH "community" is not. I could argue with some of your points, agree with others. But you might want to think about how you can say what you mean without this racial language. This sort of comment makes it hard to share ZH articles with people who really need to see them.
You are spot on saying Obama "was polished and groomed by the handlers elite to do exactly what he is doing." And it's no accident they chose a Black agent, from a reliable CIA-linked family, or that they groomed him to look very, very scary to white America while talking like a cross between Gandhi and the Second Coming. When you attack Obama on his race, you are falling into a trap, and you're the bait! Terrifying Blacks and Latinos into defending Obama, no matter how he screws *them* over.
The other side of the trap is that when Blacks and Lationos come to see you as the main enemy, they tolerate the destruction of our Constitution because they think Obama's Security State will protect them from you. And in defending Obama *they too* become the bait! A double-baited trap!
Not one of the world-scale banksters and zillionaires at the top is black, not one of those psychopaths gives a flying shit about any of us, or about America really, and few know the meaning of an honest day's work. They thrive on us hating each other. It's all a sucker's game, one of many they've prepared for us. We'll need to use our heads to defeat them and save our county.
btw, George Washingrton is a great source for understanding the criminals' strategies, how to spot and defeat them.
Hey hey now, lets all take a deep breath and not get all cynical, lets get back to 'hopey'' as the asshole in charge said yesterday.
Expect no harm for the EU to come from Merkel. She's Bilderberger so she knows not to color outside the lines.Does this mean 'Buy US tech stocks' in the wall street parlence?
That will be Joe Biden's new "patriotic" rant.
Hollywood is going to be putting out a LOT of WW2 Nazi movies soon, also watch news for newly found Nazis (the concentration camp variety) on evening news. That should put them in their place again!
Why would anyone want to buy any piece of computer hardware or software or cell phone from a US company - or for that matter even a Chinese company - and try to do anything 'secure' with it? Unfortunately, there isn't much choice left if you exclude the US and China from electronics -- so the moral of this fiasco is -- don't do anything except Angry Birds on your electronic gear unless you want both the NSA, CIA, FBI, ATF, and all their Chinese counterparts -- to know every electronic secret you have.
You have to stop using INTEL chips, as it is part of the firmware.
More of that "smart diplomacy" I've been hearing about.
Oh yes! You want to get the attention of the Whore House in Washington DC, hit their masters in the bottom line! I mean you see American corporate sales and profits take a hit because of blow back from Americna spying and war making, you see tha thappen and Washington phones will be ringing in every congressmans office talking about campaign contributions, better know as bribes.
Fuck yes. Russia has woken up and is seeking to exist outside Washingtons military grasp, and to lessen economic ties via getting out of dollar hegemony. Now, after evrey human and business in Germany has been under 100% total information spying from America, all the way up to all political and corporate leaders business and PRIVATE communications. From top to bottom, America has a total grip on German's lives and every business plan or transaction, research breakthrough or potential fields of inquiry. They can do nothing without America knowing.
They have so much blackmail material on political leades that they dare not, not support America. Are they waking up?
I suggest every German examine their lives and seek to end any transaction that benefits American corporate interests. Large German business down to the smallest retailer should seek ways to avoid all American products and services.
Nothing hits the empire like loss of market share.
The only attention grabber that meets the needs of Germany is to close down the American bases. Until that happens, it's all theater.
I like Germany. I like the German people. I like German food. But if Iwere a betting man, when to comes to war....don't be an ally with Germany.
That being said, I applaude Germany for doing what ammounts to an economic sanction against the US. The US shouldn't be spying on a good ally. If any Germans read this, please remember, the US government does not represent the will of the US citizenry. Our government has been taken over by international bankers, and various corporate interests.
US citizenry looks like being hostile, unfortunately. What would bring about that change? You guys had ignored Ron Paul for all those years, wasted time. The oppression is going to come.
"If any Germans read this, please remember, the US government does not represent the will of the US citizenry."
....don't worry. People are clever enough to make differences. To the contrary: Many feel kind of solidary and sorry for the US-citicenry because they perceive the American people like incarcerated in a "self-independing" system which seemes already out of control - victims of their own authorities in charge of the upper ten thousend.
Unfortunately this conditions swapped over the Atlantic and we in Europe are also doing our daily step back into the 17th century of Louis XIV.
1933 reverse redux
You probably don't want to admit it but President Fumbles With Zippers may get payback for 911 and redeem our 16 year prison sentence. As MsCreant pointed out the oil under glass can still be extracted.
U.S. State Dept responds with "Fuck Germany"
All just an ongoing part of Obama and Jarretts (et al) agenda to destroy the US. He/She is running out of time and so taking his anti-US game up a notch
"the american implosion continues... all designed by a fifth column, which no doubt already has its next host all lined up..."
yep, its Germany.
All civilization, little culture left, and has just taken over the diplomatic missions of a tiny mid eastern nuclear power.
Any objections?
So when do the leases on those US military bases come up for renewal? And in the meanwhile I wonder what would happen if all of a sudden German businesses began refusing to sell supplies to the US bases, and German utilities began refusing to supply water and power? If the German Federal government guaranteed to make good their losses my guess is that most Germans would cooperate and the US bases would pretty much have to close down.
And then of course if German bars began refusing to serve beer to American military personnel, and the hookers' unions ordered their members to keep their dirndles on around GIs, that would pretty much be the end.
I suspect Germany is getting tired of paying for our troops guarding them on the Czech border, after all the Czechs have been in NATO quite some time, in the E.U. too!
GERMANY. Wake up.
Demand your gold be returned.
ALL OF IT. NOW. IMMEDIATELY.
Bloomberg just laying the groundwork for his eventual coup. It's not enough that he pissed all over NY'ers, and make no mistake, plenty of them liked it, but now he's got to spread the "Bloomberg Way" to other parts of the country. Next he will state "I'm just doing God's work".
Germany has been occupied by US Army since the WW2. Seems like this party is going to be over soon.
LIGHT INTRODUCTIONS PRESENTS
Fly on the Wall Productions
A recent text conversation between Ms. Merkel and Mr. Obama
Ms. Merkel: Mr. Obama, why are you spying on us? Are we not your allies?
Mr. Obama: Yes I’m so sorry you caught us spying on you my friend. You know, sometimes both myself and my wife Michelle have openly wondered what is going on over at the NSA too lol
Ms. Merkel: You seem to be talking about them as though they are one of your errant children Mr. Obama. In reality they are not. Are you really saying that you don’t know what your own intelligence personnel are doing?
Mr. Obama: ROFLMAO.With all due respect Angela, it’s not quite that simple. Here in the US we have laws and protocols and politics that make it darned hard for me to get anything done except get in a few rounds of golf.
Ms. Merkel: Forgive me Mr. Obama, but you seem to continuously make excuses or shift blame to others in your administration for what is quite obviously your responsibility and done on your watch. This is the third time within the recent past that we have found you spying on us. First your people were hacking my phone and text messages. Now we’ve found US spys twice actively paying German citizens for top secret information. What am I to think of all this?
Mr. Obama: I know. I’m sorry and I promise you will never catch us spying on you again Angela.
Ms. Merkel: That is simply unacceptable Mr. Obama. Your credibility with world leaders including myself is now completely in the toilet. How can we trust you if we know you are spying on us? You are acting more like who we THOUGHT our enemies were.
Mr. Obama: Please don’t overreact to this Angela. It’s simply a misunderstanding. I promise to personally evaluate the problem at my soonest opportunity. I can prove to you that even a little ole’ community organizer like me can get things done here in Washington.
Ms. Merkel: Please don’t remind me that you have no real world work experience Mr. Obama. I don’t sleep better at night knowing that The Clown that calls himself the leader of the free world never had to earn a real paycheck in his entire life.
Mr. Obama: Hey I was a community organizer, but I was the best damned community organizer I could be. The community I was organizing believed in Hope And Change too.
Ms. Merkel: When I talk with you Mr. Obama I never feel that we are talking on the same level. Somehow I sense you think more like a child than an adult. Please be advised that we are now taking steps to limit our cooperation with US intelligence networks. It is simply unacceptable to us that you have been spying on us.
B.O., My dear mrs Merkel, the NSA spies on me too and I don't complain, they spy on everyone and you know where all that info goes don't you.
Just because You don't have Balls or a Backbone to tell the NSA to suck rocks....MS. Merkel Does. ( more than YOU). So many countries now have become targets......I really think that the Bankers have theatened OBAMA so he has given the Banksters MOAR Power. They say it's no allowed to say anything bad about JEWS. Well I do......Just like I do about Americans who don't think their Shit Smells. I think the World looks forward to the Mess revolt that is a long time in coming......Revolution again to correct problems made as we all suffer the concequences from those in Control. It seems that Everything possible has been done to stop Peace......in the World. When will the Truth become so clear that Heads Roll? Tick Tick Tick.
I wonder how these Germans that came to see Obama (how embarrasing) when he visited Europe as a mere presidential candidate feel about him now. I think German public opinion will not give a flying fuck about 'how close Merkal came to the DDR authorities'. All will be forgiven. No, they must have something jucier on Merkel. But the BND might have some pictures of Obama.
....simple answer: People celebrated the supposed end of the era Bush (...and the beginning of a smarter one). But now many are disappointed and understood: They were wrong - Putin seemes to be more popular. At least nobody is waving enthusiastically with flags anymore when Mr. B. O. is coming along the street. They are perceiving him like strayed and somehow weak - loosing acceptance and influence in a fast growing and relocating world.
Instructions cover all activities not related to [...] terrorism threats
I mean that cannot be lip service only, because they'd never just relabel everything as terrorism threat related, right!?
China respectively Asia is the future - USA the past.
I see it with my kids no asking longer: 'I want to visit 'California' - nowadays they ask: 'I want to visit Shanghai or Hongkong'.
As personal contacts to this areas are also growing it seemes just a short trip into the coming center of the world and I think that Chinese, Russians and Germans along this centerline feel something like a new common spirit and solidarity. Anyway there is no natural border between Asia and Europe - the continent should be called "Eurasia" - and people feel that.
As long as US-authorities proceed their policy of spying and attempt of total control this development is accelerating fastly, Washington is becoming more and more isolated so finally they might remain with our holiday-pictures stored in US-servers but probably not anylonger with the hearts of next generation and economy. I think that it doesn't take long that even the Web will be complemented by a seperate system of European-Asian information-exchange-system.
This is precisely what I was warning about in http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2013/09/17/whistleblowerin-geheime-machenschaften-der-finanz-eliten-zerstoeren-die-welt/ translation at https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/germanyarticle2.docx
Not to worry, once we get rid of the Banking Cartel, this power transition model is predicting that Germany and our other allies will return: http://philosophyofmetrics.com/2014/02/18/sdrs-and-the-new-bretton-woods...
There is a 90-95% likelihood that this is precisely what happens after the UK Parliament House of Commons Public Administration Select Committee Report on page 186 "Complaints: Do They Make a Difference? 'Today's dire circumstances call for immediate and forceful intervention in the hope that time still remains.' and Elaine Colville's complaint on page 178 "It devolves on Parliament to sort out this egregious state of affairs."
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/public-administration/Complaints%20Consolidated%2024%20July.pdf
The Banking Cartel is insolvent and is being placed under Chapter 11 bankruptcy in the US https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Fed+Gold+Bullion+Certificates.pdf
I think there is plenty of guilt to go around, so nationaly speaking, there is no safe harbor
i do believe the US is going to take a huge hit, but so will the other countries
there will be a new monitary system but it will not free you from slavery to it
only God can help you thru this