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Israel Is Bombing Gaza Back to the Stone Age to Get Hamas ... But ISIS – NOT HAMAS – Claims Credit for Attacks Against Israel
Israel is currently bombing Gaza back to the stone age (MSM spin notwithstanding).
While Israel claims that Hamas was behind the murder of 3 Israeli boys which started this round of violence (and subsequent rocket attacks), the Times of Israel reported last week:
A new Palestinian jihadist group pledging allegiance to the Islamic State (formerly known as ISIL) [or "ISIS"] has claimed responsibility for the killing of three Israeli teenagers last month in the West Bank, as well as other recent deadly attacks against Israeli soldiers and civilians.
Hamas has denied responsibility for the attacks.
The New York Times also reported on Wednesday:
On Tuesday evening, Israel’s antimissile system, called Iron Dome, intercepted a rocket “over the Tel Aviv area,” the army said, showing the reach of Gazan rocketry. The rocket was believed to be of Iranian design, a Fajr-5, and Islamic Jihad claimed credit. Tel Aviv opened some public shelters, and in a city near Tel Aviv, Rishon LeZion, people were instructed to leave the beach.
Given that countries all over the world – including Israel and Muslim countries – have admitted to carrying out false flag attacks, we should carefully investigate who was responsible before cheering on a new Arab-Israeli war. (And the head of Mossad had predicted such an occurrence shortly before it happened.)
Palestine has gained a lot of support recently. For example, Palestine was accorded observer nation status by the United Nations. The movement to boycott and divest from companies doing business with Israel has gathered tremendous momentum. And the two main factions in Palestinian politics – Hamas and Fatah – have formed a unity government.
As Michael Rivero points out, it makes no sense for Hamas to have committed brutal acts of violence right now, when it is securing quick progress through peaceful political means:
HAMAS and FATAH formed a unity government. They need the support of the world right now, and neither HAMAS or FATAH is going to carry out an act that would wreck the very public support they need. It’s like George Washington trying to kick out the British by shooting students in the colonial schools; it is just not going to happen.
And the Jewish Daily Forward notes that – if rogue Hamas members did carry out the murders – it was not with the permission or knowledge of Hamas leadership:
In the flood of angry words that poured out of Israel and Gaza during a week of spiraling violence, few statements were more blunt, or more telling, than this throwaway line by the chief spokesman of the Israeli military, Brigadier General Moti Almoz, speaking July 8 on Army Radio’s morning show: “We have been instructed by the political echelon to hit Hamas hard.”
That’s unusual language for a military mouthpiece. Typically they spout lines like “We will take all necessary actions” or “The state of Israel will defend its citizens.” You don’t expect to hear: “This is the politicians’ idea. They’re making us do it.”
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It was clear from the beginning that the kidnappers weren’t acting on orders from Hamas leadership in Gaza or Damascus. Hamas’ Hebron branch — more a crime family than a clandestine organization — had a history of acting without the leaders’ knowledge, sometimes against their interests. Yet Netanyahu repeatedly insisted Hamas was responsible for the crime and would pay for it.
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Yet again GW you show a total lack of understandiing of geopolitics, instead pushing propaganda and nutty conspiracy theory in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
The current round of hostilities have little, if anything to do with the Palestinian boy and three Jewish boys murdered. It has far more to do with Israel's blockade of Gaza combined with the destruction of most smuggling tunnels by Egypt's new government. This has made life extremely difficult for Gazans, and Hamas since they are running the show there. It was also precipitated by the deal between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority to kiss and make up - not everyone in Hamas was cool with that. Rocket attacks are a good way to break the deal.
Did you catch that link GW?
http://greghallett.com/pages/New-Zealand-A-Blackmailers-Guide.html
I am a newby as to comments on this site but the incredible ignorance made me act. Anyone who thinks Israel is bombing Gaza into the stone age or thinks that Israel is trying to kill civilians has lost their brain cells. Israel is too kind, it just is. It gets bombed about every 10 minutes but because it spends its money creating a vibrant socitey who cares about its citizens, as well as has one of the strongest militaries in the world, including its defensvie prowress, it does not act in an evil manner, far from it. For anyone that thinks that the likley fewer than 100 civilian Palestininans (remember, Israel is targeting Hamas terrorists and their bombing and control apporatise) were targeted you need to consider that if Israel was targeting civilians, it could have easily, and I mean easily, have killed tens of thousands, if not more by now! Instead, it calls them on the phone to warn them, explodes loud but not harmful bombs on their roofs and sends down leaflets to warn them to get out of harms way. The ones that have died were most likely either near Hamas terrorists or their bombs or decided that they were willing to marter themselves, either on their own or at the behest of their evil Hamas leaders. Their is right and wrong and good and evil in this world and Hamas is clearly on the wrong and evil side. To play into their hands of maximizing simpathy from the use of their own citizens as human shields, is both sad and pathetic for anyone with a brain! Enough said!
Israeli
Interior Minister: “The Goal of the Operation Is to Send Gaza Back to
the Middle Ages”, “Destroying All the Infrastructure Including Roads and
Water”
Yeah, sure. Meanwhile in return for rockets, hatred and terrorism from Gaza, Israel maintains its lifeline supplies of power, water, food and medicine. That explains the difference between the Jews and the rest.
GW is a Socialist and I do agree with many of his economic points because unbridled capital accumulation will lead to economic collapse, but he is a also virulent anti-Semite. So when you put the two together: Socialism and antisemitism, you do get--- a N A Z I.
Nice number 1!
Socialism? I have repeatedly slammed socialism! See e.g. Don’t Blame Capitalism for Wall Street’s Corruption and Lawlessness
As to antisemitism ... Former Israeli Minister:
Calling people who criticize Iraeli policy "Anti-semitic. It's a trick ... we always use it"
I'll stick with statistics. If 90% of those who call themselves anti-Zionists are also antisemitic, I am pretty confident that my assessment of you is correct.
My preferred definition of "anti-Semite" is the one authored by the late James Sobran: "Not one who hates Jews, but rather someone hated by certain Jews."
What a maroon this GW is.
The headline is sooooo stupid I didn't read the article.
Either he is a Jooooooooooooo hater or a complete idiot.
Isis is either in cahoots or has paid Hamas some of the gold from Mosul; otherwise they wouldn't be firing rockets from Hamas controlled territory without being shat on.
Now even the Egyptian Press is cheering for Israel as it attacks the HAMAS (Muslim Brotherhood).
If even the Egyptian press is cheering for the Israelis, you have to wonder what is going on over here.
http://tinyurl.com/kh4dbjm
ISRAEL should bulldoze a mile wide swath across gaza border and kill anything that enters there.... next time another mile wide swath UNTIL THERE IS NOTHNG LEFT IF THEY KEEP IT UP....
hey buckwheat.... daz y u hv 2 SECURE YOUR FUKING BORDERS..... so scumbags dont VIOLATE your SECURITY.... hint hint hint
ISIS is another Brennan Iraq related FRANKENSTEIN.... al baghdadi was given $30 million upon his realease from bagrum by the commiie mussie in the white hosue and additional financial and military training support and weapons by USSA... trained in jordan and qatar, supplemental funding from the hosue fo saud, weapons from lybia including refurbished rockets, plus 5 gitmo top level al q advisors living large in qatar... so they been training and percolating for 6 years and Brennan/ Obama knew every smidgen of a detail...
Brennan/obama shitcanned the American sacrifice and must be held accountable for every drop of blood and sacrifice made...
eventualy the TRUTH will out....... quite certain one of the 65 in benghazi and perhaps one of the 35 wounded will spill the beans out of utter disgust for the COVERUP.......
GW,the column is terribly lacking in insight.
one should not accord political gains by Fatah with the Hamas situation.
Hamas made the terrible error of opposing Assad and Iran in Syria. Let's not forget why Hamas arrived on the world stage - their well funded societal support. All this in jeapordy now.
And Hamas made the same mistake in Egypt - supporting the Brotherhood against the Egyptian military. The military has won for now - and here again Hamas access to funding has been choked through the shutdown of tunnels.
Hamas needed to be attacked to rally public support that no longer receives largesse through Hamas.
For the birds-eye view... Isreal has gone hard right in leadership for 2 decades now. What was considered extreme 20 years ago is now mainstream. This could not have happened without the rise of Hamas. So the current leadership of Isreal, and Hamas, are made for each other and will continue their srattegic partnership of real or threatened death and destruction until Palestinians and Isrealis change their leadership by requiring beneficial relationships that will lead to sound long term respectful relations.
It looks to me that ISIS action plan is more efficient than this forum blabbering: expediently execute all the unbelievers or make them embrace the true religion. Now Israel has the upper hand in terms of military might. I hope that the so called humanitarians will be around in regions that are controlled militarily by armed islamists.
The hundreds of rockets spended in a few weeks are not cheap. Somebody spends a LOT of effort and money to provide thousands of those, to provide training, fuel, service, targeting services etc. This is not an action to be executed by your next door neighbour after a few drinks. And this is not an action to be executed by some isolated idiots. It's a well organized operation with long term planning and resources. It's about thousands or tens of thousands of well organized people. All these resources could be used to build hospitals, roads, factories to improve life. Instead, they are wasted in the middle of hundreds of thousands of people living in abject poverty. Yes, this is smart and patriotic. Allahu Akbar! Whatever.
alright, GW, don't mind janus as he sashay's in and high-jacks your thread. i know it makes you nervous when janus posts his missives o' mischief; and it right-wise should. and i'll further add that any who hazard a read and don't at some point feel in some way concerned and/or traumatized, yes those rare few who find favor with the salty-stuff will also find themselves named on all the right naughty lists. i call you the meek; it's said you'll inherit the earth. it's also said that once salt loses its saltiness, it's to be cast on the dungheap -- so, word to the wise, stay meek and salty...and though i didn't mean to begin this morning's polemic/narrative/essay/meditative-exegesis with the subject of salt, i suppose it'll do just about as well as anything. i know everything there is to know about salt -- one could say i'm ideally familiar with good ole NaCl.
all of which is why i've decided to say a few things about israel. which has everything to do with salt. it's like this: most who endeavor to speak with authority on the israeli fiasco aren't nearly as meek as janus. they instead boast of their titular and accredited bona fides as a wonk-assed chair-bearer at a formerly prestigious -- now prostituted -- institution where they advertise themselves to be the bestest bloviator on near-east this with a particular emphasis on middle-eastern that. and, as you all know, i'm all-kinda meek...janus is meekness exemplified. but, alas, janus is like-wise extra-salty. and, in that i'm the world's preeminent expert on all things israel, and am on every ancillary subject a matchless and supremely unrivaled authority, it goes without saying that i rarely ever say anything about the subject (because i'm so goddam meek)...but i got the munchies -- and janus has always favored salty snacks.
before i plunge into my thoughts, i wanted to take a moment and congratulate the deutch on their victorious and exquisitely glorious campaign in brazil. some may find it in poor taste to laud the germans in the midst of a post concerning israel...i object and say it's purely incidental -- and if it weren't, it's owing to my weakness for saltiness and that intrinsic meekness of mine. more than anything, it's the right thing to do. what a team! deutchland, you should be proud of those young men and the brilliant strategy. {sidenote: german coaches, you almost paid a HUGE price for abandoning your strategy in favor of caution in the last game...but it's hard to argue with victory...so, good show, krauts & huns...hip-hip to you each and everyone}
an appropriate song in honor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHHzop0ha6Y {#19, there is for you a special part dedicated from janus -- it begins exactly at, and appropriately enough, the 555 mark}
some who've been hangin round the Hedge for some years now will no-doubt recognize my rather suggestive avatar...and some few among that some will recall that i got my hard-on way back in alabama...well, it just so happens that i've temporarily returned to alabama (where i remain a wanted man and irredeemable menace to society). probably none will remember that i foreswore ever again returning; but there's family involved -- and sometimes hasty oaths and bench warrants must be brushed aside in the interest of family comity, reconciliation and fence-mending.
and i wouldn't necessarily bring all this up if it weren't indisputably true that alabama just so happens to be the perfect perch for analyzing the israeli issue. folks have always averred that alabama is angled and aligned just so for those searchin out the optimally objective view of israel...and it isn't so much that i argued or doubted them, it's just that i now accept it as fact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm6l3gYputM
all things stewed together this evening as the gumbo of relevant experiences and impressions and influences simmered in the cauldron of my admittedly expansive crania. so, i'm floating about in the parental's pool (recently converted to a 'salt' system), starin down the sun...watchin him run and hide like he always does (the sun's not yellow, it's chicken)...reminding him each night who's boss...and after successfully whipping his ass off into the west, i fixed my thoughts on the changing nature of this world of ours, and how each and everyone of our perspectives on things is always liable to change.
as far as my experiences go, here in nexus of the israeli dialectic, none were sensational -- per se...and i've so far avoided any arrests or interference with the fuzz. but my experiences were nevertheless illuminating viz israel. well, at least two of them were. i've dined alone twice now. once at an applebees in opelika (look, i know, i wouldn't feed my dog applebees (full disclosure: janus doesn't own a dog) but it was the only place at which i was sure to find both meat and beer), and once more at a place called 'the hound' in auburn (all-barn, i'll be happy to someday roast your war-eagle on a spit!...ROLL TIDE!).
anyway, my experience at applebees was dark...mahogany even. i strolled in and sidled up to the bar, asked for a draft beer, a menu and started observing. the most immediate and striking feature was that i was a minority...a very distinct minority. let's put it this way, the place's patrons were, at minimum, 90% not-me...this place was packed with those who could've easily been huissain's progeny. and as i surveyed the reaction to the impression i was giving, it's fair to say that i wasn't entirely welcome. i ate & drank in silence (and i'm normally the gregarious type -- even for a southerner), paid my tab and left. and today, after reading the headline on drudge...with holder tellin me that there's a racial animus underpinning certain americans political motivations, i cannot but agree with our attorney general.
you see, this explains everything. now i understand the basis of my aversion to our communist in chief. i hate the white half of this president. sure, he's only one-half white-devil...but that's more than enough for janus. that mutha-fuckin half-cracker is one half too much a honkey for yours truly.
and if'n you bitchez haven't gotten the memo, let janus be the first to tell you (as i now 'get' it like never before): white people are evil; they cannot overcome it (it's encoded in their genes); and, above all, it is the actuating motivation for everything they do -- hatred and prejudice and bigotry are a priori of everything whitey.
so the next time i dine, it's all whitey everywhere...floor to ceiling wicked whites -- all of them grinding the flesh of innocent creatures in their menacing mandibles, drinking and laughing about whatever mendacity they had in store for others that don't look like them; and all of them all the while plotting the death and destruction and deprivation of every shade from beige to blue-gum...the horror!!!
next thing i know, there's this honkey askin if the seat next to me is taken. offended as i was at his presence and appearance, i deferred instead to manners and let the white-devil take his seat next to me. we went straight into a wonderful conversation (little did he know i was preparing a dossier for DHS on his white ass...mmmmmwahahahaha!). it later came out that he was/is jewish.
yes, tis a bit ironic (or something akin to irony) to go from west boston (new england's hebrew hub) to auburn, alabama only to find yourself immersed in casual yet stimulating conversation with a jew. but stranger things have happened.
anyway, we chat about lots of things...and at one point israel was briefly touched upon and then expanded.
and so, to finally braid all of this together, i'll say that i find it very interesting, highly ironic (or something akin to irony) and more than a little salty that this most cosmopolitan of peoples is starting to appraise the world from a markedly different perspective. as i drove home, down part of the highway marched along by some of the brightest and most aggressive of his people in the late sixties, it occurred to me that perhaps some vanguard within the jewish community is beginning to recognize that the imposition of "multiculturalism" over and above every other societal interest is maybe not ideal in every circumstance. now that this people without a place have themselves a place, they maybe understand that forcing assimilation is an insult to all involved parties and undermines the very essence of community.
perhaps there is some merit in the argument that certain cities and surrounding areas naturally be cosmopolitan and multicultural -- as such is in the interest, and accords to the inclinations, of large cities -- and that, perhaps (just perhaps), the provincial/rural/suburban areas be 'allowed' to form a character that isn't the amorphous abstraction of some do-gooders' fantasy of egalitarian harmony. maybe, just maybe, communities and peoples have a right to self-identify...no matter how evil they may intrinsically be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2bxix3vFYM
let's drink to the salt of the earth,
janus
There may be false flags but those hundreds of rockets fired out of Gaza into Israel are darn sure real no matter if they are Hamas or Isis rockets. "Hamas and Fatah need the support of the world." Jihadists never care to win popularity contests. Peeps always giving a pass to Jihadists,using women and children as shields,just for Jew hate.
Israel has no business being there. It's existence is a crime. The Jews that run Israel are in no way related to the Jews of the Old Testament. They need to go back to Poland and Russia.
Israeli
Interior Minister: “The Goal of the Operation Is to Send Gaza Back to
the Middle Ages”, “Destroying All the Infrastructure Including Roads and
Water”
So what. They didn't build or pay for their infrastruture, we did. What they gonna do with flush toilets anyway, they don't believe in tp.
Wow. I guess he revels in the hatred such a fucked up statement will incite. Isreal has killed over 100 Palestinians, without a single Isreali killed, now they have really started bombing the shit of them. Isreal like perpetuating violence against itself?
Israel using banned weapons
And refusing to allow UN observers into Gaza.
Israeli lynch mob hunting for Arabs Israeli jets destroying Gaza water and sewage systems, Oxfam estimates 90% of Gaza water unsafe to drinkA short introduction about occupied Palestine
Hallet from New Zealand gives some very interesting exerpts from his books free also. He claims they burned down his house in New Zealand and cancelled his visa to Britain. Calls New Zealand a bunch of pedophiles masquerading as a country.In fact he says when Putin was a spy in New Zealand he had six body doubles.
See excerpts. especially whipping the sleeper.
http://greghallett.com/pages/New-Zealand-A-Blackmailers-Guide.html
Book marked the page for amusement value, sometimes when I'm very drunk I like to have something very very funny to view and this site will do nicely. many thanks.
I don't understand this, is the idea to drop leaflets on areas Israel is going to bomb to give people the opportunity to evacuate but for some reason Israel thinks that the ISIS and Hama's 'terrorists' or freedom fighters depending on your point of view won't read the pamphlets and move their asses and rockets somewhere else?
Or..could it be Israel’s tactic is to pretend to be saving lives while Pounding the Palestinians back into the stone age in the mistaken belief that if they kill enough men woman and children that the population will rise up and throw the terrorist fighters out, and, or it gives a great excuse to steal some more of the Palestinians land and build more settlements as punishment?
I'm just curious, the logic of warning people their homes are about to get destroyed but expecting the freedom fighters to stay and get bombed escapes me. Personally I think these two peoples will be killing each other for ever because of the high percentage of religious nutters on both sides.
Which two peoples for ever?
'Americans' residing in Israel have no ties to the place, they do not descend from the people who lived there thousand years ago.
They are simply 'americans' doing what 'americans' do very well: land grabbing and killing people.
'Americans' will always be killing people. It is part of their nature, the way they function.
A course in ziobonics will quickly prove to you that judaism is not a race when convenient but can quickly morph into one when you look at the DNA-Y haplogroup carried by most khazars providing their mother was a khazar. That would include. Napoleon, Hitler, many royal families, including the Shinto in Japan who recognize each other as jewish through this DNA type according to researcher Arimasa Kubo of Japan. It also includes Israelis and Saudi Wahhabbis, many high nazi officials such as Joseph Goebbels and others. So yes it goes back to those "magic kohan crystals" in momma's blood line.
This particular haplogroup is generally considered more consistent to the neanderthal man of the caucasus as opposed to the cro-magnon man of Europe.
In fact Hitler's half sister Angela moved from the Jewish kitchen in Vienna to Hitler's home in Berchtesgaden and became his house keeper. Hitlers relatives in Ireland also exhibit these same DNA pattern and have indicated in interviews that Hitler trained in at the Tavistock institute in Britain. He was a British agent.
"Hitler trained in at the Tavistock institute" ??? Never heard that one before ... Link?
http://greghallett.com/pages/Hitler-was-a-British-Agent.html
https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/hitler-was-a-rothschild-and...
https://dublinsmickdotcom.wordpress.com/2013/10/13/adolph-hitler-and-his...
https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2013/10/15/bush-rothschild-and-the-roc...
Hitler played chess with Lenin in Austria at a Jewish Mason house in 1909?Hitler lived right next to the Tavistock institute from 1912 to 1913
Hitler didn’t arrest all the Jew bankers. He never bombed their homes and even took aid from Jewish front businesses in America.
Hitler let 350,000 English troops go at Dunkirk which had he simply captured, would have ended the war in the west.
Hitler screwed Rommel at very turn, opposed everything he did because Rommel, while given light armor and infantry with NO air cover, was actually about to capture Palestine which would have won the war against the Zionist Jews, if they actually opposed them. It would have opened up a southern flank into Russia, splitting the world in two, also enabling them to link up with the Japanese.
Hitler replaced Rommel with a bozo who refused to allow the French to defend from the high ground during operation torch which so demoralized the French, they did put up a fight and quit allowing the Americans to walk into Africa.
Hitler refused to walk in and take Moscow, which would have ended the war in the west, when it had no resistance, opting instead to wait until the next summer which allowed the Soviets to regroup and defend the city.
Hitler refused to allow the ME 262 with a kill ratio of 500 to 1 to be used against the allied Bombers. He refused to covert these jet fighters to bombers. Only at the very end of the war and because German pilots mass revolted did Hitler relent but it was too late.
Hitler refused to use the French Navy which was big enough to check the Americans and British.
Hitler refused to take Gibraltar which for hundreds of years was used to bottleneck the Mediterranean. This would have stopped any allied surface fleets from entering.
Hitler refused to allow the gestapo to investigate his inner circle where radio transmissions giving the Soviets, Nazis war plans, were traced to.
Hitler declared war against America when he didn’t have to. America had only declared war against Japan and America firsters were not going to let Rosenfeld use America to fight in Europe. Hitler put and end to that.
Hitler stopped bombing military targets in UK to go after the population when the RAF was a week from a complete knockout and all of Germany’s high command knew it. Instead, he went after civilian targets which allowed the British RAF to be saved.
Hitler didn’t die in the bunker. He lived in Argentina and was protected by OSS and other international intelligence agencies as proven by recently released FBI files. You can see it yourself at their site.
Now, I could name a whole bunch of other things like all those German Nationalists who tried to assassinate him but were foiled, over and over due to OSS leaking details to German intelligence but what is the point?
It is obvious when it was HITLER who transferred the first Jews (60,000) to Israel, the site he KNEW they planned a World Government while he also loaned them hundreds of millions of dollars and built their early infrastructure.
Did he attend the world cup today? If so, who did he cheer for?
today, murder is business and love.
just turn on your
T.V.. SEE THAT ubiquitous bernaysian sickness?
if installed correctly you see nothing, you just act
it out, totally screwed by design.
".....Bombing Gaza back into the stone age?" HA! When the hell did the Palestinians ever LEAVE the stone age?
Did Anyone Live In Palestine Prior to the Formation of Israel?
Should we return America to the indians?
Sure, the realitives of the same stupid fucks that live in the area now, living in squalor, in mud huts, no tp, no running water, no sewer, no refrigeration, no work, honor killing and mutilating their women, chopping heads of of each other for being dissed.
Yea. They lived there. Still do.
(bold off)
Does it matter?
Norman Finkelstein's book "Beyond Chutzpah" spends a great deal of time taking down the nonsense propaganda of books like "From Time Immemorial." It is meticulously researched and footnoted, and also spends some time proving, beyond any reasonable doubt, that infamous Israel Firster Alan Dershowitz plagiarized this work in the abominable "The Case For Israel" which essentially regurgitates early 20th century Zionist propaganda.
It's worth noting that many, maybe most of the books in the past 20 or so years which deconstruct and disprove the Zionist narrative about the creation of the Jewish state and the intent of the Zionist founders were written by Israelis and/or Jews who in no way call for the destruction of Israel or even ending its status as an ethnarchy.
Finkelstein is the son of Holocaust survivors, which doesn't stop Zionist Jews in the US and Canada from attempting to play the usual tricks with him.
As in this breath-taking exchange from some years back.
Israel bombs a mosque in Gaza, a policeman's house, & a clinic for the disabled (killing 2 residents & a caretaker) http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/13/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-strip.html …
What a maroon you are GW.
You shouldn't have taken off your tin foil hat and quit the coolaide for the holiday. There's a chair waiting for you and your ilk in Guyana. What a maroon you are. And such a Joooooooooooooooo hater.
Hmmmm - I try to keep an even handed view on these matters. Neither favoring one side or the other. I do think America should do as Washington and Jefferson advised and mind our own damned business however.
That said, its easy to recognize an Ad Hominem attack. "tin foil hat", "kool-aid", 'Joooo hater' - all within a single sentence !
What next ? That he throws babies out of their hospital incubators ?
Old tricks. Easy to see through.
The Mosque had a cache of missiles.
Uh Oh, here comes the death to the goy brigade from Haifa, looking for after school extra credit for chutzpahing the goyim. Standby for a lesson in ziobonics from the zoman empire. It is a tough language to master. If you present opposition regarding khazars murdering semites then you are an anti-semite and a hater. In other instances, if you disagree with a khazar, you are a hater, better yet, if you are not a khazar then you are anti-semitic.
Throwing around the word hate is a big part of the kosher nostra manual.
A friendly academic challenge for members to post a better example of Khazars killing Semites: From prior to WW2 to today, the Rabbis state that Hitler did God's work in killing Jews. The way the Rabbis see it, the common Jews turned away from Rabbinical Talmudic teaching, and so God inflicted his punishment on them.
It's fairly commonly understood that prior to WW2 many common Jews turned away from the oppressive culture and teachings of the Rabbis.
Toward the goal of stealing the Palestinian homeland, the Rabbis started the meme of 6 million dead innocent Jews in the late 19th/early 20th C.
Does "truth" really require thought control laws passed to support it? Such is the case with "Holocaustianity." Many EU nations plus Canada criminalzed disbelief in the Holocaust. In fact persons are imprisoned now for this crime.
Uh Oh, here comes the death to the goy brigade from Haifa, looking for after school extra credit for chutzpahing the goyim. Standby for a lesson in ziobonics from the zoman empire. It is a tough language to master. If you present opposition regarding khazars murdering semites then you are an anti-semite and a hater. In other instances, if you disagree with a khazar, you are a hater, better yet, if you are not a khazar then you are anti-semitic.
Imperial aggressors - whether ISIS/the Islamic State, Zionists or Neoconservatives in America - demonize their enemy.
There are PEOPLE living in Israel, and Gaza, and Palestine.
Anyone who tries to say "all ___ are bad" is a propagandist trying to stir up war.
I say one thing for you Georgie;
your cognitive dissonance has maxed out with this train of bullshit.
exactly correct Georgie...
sick of war here......plain fucking sick of it....
The Middle East was the source of the Neolithic style of civilization that was grafted on to North America. Look at what that has done to North America in five hundred years, and imagine what that could do in five thousand years ... Well, actually, it is NOT possible to imagine what several thousand years of backing up lies with violence, at an exponentially accelerating rate, would do to the world. Unless there was some series of political miracles, then I would expect North America to reproduce similar longer term consequences, from relentless environmental degradation and ruthlessly fanatical conflicts.
Neolithic Civilization is based on successfully being able to back up lies with violence, in order to control society. The longer term results of that produces the problems we now see in the Middle East. The Middle East had its old-fashioned State Religions, while North America now has post-modernized State Religions, in the form of the monetary system, and national security.
While it appears practically impossible to not intellectual accept that "we are doomed," it is not emotionally acceptable to do that. However, since it is very easy to start a fight, and then very hard to stop one, there seems to be no practical ways to prevent tricks like false flag attacks, and so forth, from driving human history to continue to stampede over a cliff.
The basic problems are inherent in the nature of life, and must be resolved somehow. Social pyramid systems were expedient ways of resolving those problems, which ways that were developed in the Middle East were then sent on to Europe, and most of the rest of the world. North American political systems are still basically Babylonian. Therefore, we are currently headed in the same direction, towards where they already are.
To change that would take profound paradigm shifts, such as changing the basic ways that we think about and measure space and time. THE PARADOXES that we currently face are that we are still using the Babylonian notions about how to measure time, despite all of the progress in physical sciences which have demonstrated those notions are WRONG.
What is WRONG with the Neolithic style of civilization is very deep and pervasive. Social pyramid systems were based on thousands of years of backing up lies with violence, so that the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories dominated everything, even including the philosophy of science, when that emerged as more and more significant through the industrial revolutions.
In my view, the SOURCE of "that human nature itself created all the hell on earth" was that backing up lies with violence works all too well in the short-term, so that various State Religions can be promoted, in order to operate human farming, as increasingly sophisticated social slavery systems. However, the short-term successes of enforcing frauds necessarily drive worse and worse longer term consequences, which eventually overwhelm all of the previous shorter term benefits for some, that were achieved through those means.
I regard intelligence as the internalization of natural selection. Longer term survival may, eventually, select for social systems to not be so totally dominated by lies backed by violence as the human world now is. However, the only way that could actually happen is IF better solutions for the chronic political problems were made and maintained.
At present, the Middle East demonstrates the results of thousands of years of mad military conflict and environmental destruction. The ways of thinking that were developed there were able to spread out and conquer the whole world, such as be grafted onto North America. The social pyramid systems based on backing up lies with violence operate through a small minority which specialize in being dishonest and destructive, while the vast majority adapt to operate within that context.
Since the whole system, from top to bottom, through and through, is based on enforced frauds, resolving any problems any better seems practically impossible. Therefore, I can not avoid coming to the conclusion that "we are doomed." However, I also cannot "accept" that.
For sure, there could NEVER be enough planets that were big enough to sustain endless exponential growth. By definition, the only better solutions are better death controls, to operate within the limits of a finite planet. The Middle East developed methods to do that through the social pyramid systems, which were successful in the short-term, and able to spread out and assimilate the rest of the world into those kinds of enforced frauds. Hence, we ended up with the kinds of State Religions that dominate North America and the world now, which were built on top of the State Religions that used to originally exist in the Middle East.
In order for the human species to survive its own success, it will have to develop better artificial selection, within the realities of natural selection. The challenge for the future is whether we could develop better death controls. There is no doubt whatsoever that there must be some death controls, because no planet would ever be big enough to sustain endless exponential growth. However, given that the actual death controls that dominate the world today were based on the maximum possible deceits, and were surrounded by controlled opposition groups that operated within the same frame of reference, developing better death controls appears practically impossible, and therefore, we certainly look like "we are doomed," due to technologies becoming trillions of times more powerful, why the social pyramid systems that direct the use of those technologies continue to operate through attitudes of the maximum deliberate ignorance.
At the present time, since all "peace processes" in the Middle East are bullshit slinging matches between fanatics, where the basic issues regarding the human, industrial and natural ecologies are never included within the otherwise superficial cease fires, that process appears to be headed towards the situation where the only way that there could be "peace" in the Middle East, is after that place is turned into a radioactive wasteland.
Theoretically, the science and technology that makes it actually possible to turn the Middle East into being a radioactive wasteland SHOULD transform the State Religions, to adapt to that, by going through a series of intellectual scientific revolutions, which would apply to politics, and especially to the monetary and military systems. However, at present, those are far, far too MAD to image being able to do that, and therefore, it is not currently possible to imagine any plausible ways in which we are not doomed to self-destruction.
The core problem now is the same as it always was, which is how to operate human murder systems, as the basic back-up to the overall death controls, which are the source for all other controls throughout civilization. Neolithic Civilization was the most advanced development of the problem that successful warfare was based on deceits, and therefore, our civilization currently operates its death controls through the maximum possible deceits, to the degree that it is practically impossible to have any sane public debates regarding the imperatives of how to operate better death controls, after the development of weapons of mass destruction.
The Middle East continues to be leading the way towards the MAD self-destruction of the human species, about which we may only have some irrational hopes that we may learn how to do things better in the future, after we exhaust doing everything else worse before then. Politics in the Middle East is based on extreme insanities, due to death controls being done through the maximum deceits, so much, for so long, that they are very deeply stuck in that rut.
Politics in North America, and around the rest of the world, is also stuck in that rut. The chronic political problems inherent in the nature of life are being resolved in the most expedient ways, which are working less and less well all the time. However, because those are the established and entrenched sets of solutions, there are apparently no ways to develop better sets of solutions, since those must necessarily involve better death controls.
This is the sort of nonchalant sophistry I'd expect from a British philosophy professor.
Examine your premises, young man. You need some new ones.