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Israel Launches Ground Operation In Gaza: Special Forces Raid Alleged Rocket Compound
After conducting countless sorties and bombing raids aimed at Hamas operatives in Gaza during the fifth day of Operation Protective Edge, but resulting in well over a hundred innocent civilian deaths in the past week, Israel, realizing it is not generating any brownie points with the international "humanitarian" media, finally did what it had threatened to do over the last few days - launch a ground assault.
Moments ago, the Israel military reported that Israeli ground troops had entered northern Gaza to take out a number of missile launch sites.
1/2 BREAKING: IDF forces raided a site used to fire long-range rockets at Israel. The mission was accomplished
— IDF (@IDFSpokesperson) July 13, 2014
2/2 During the mission, there was an exchange of fire. 4 soldiers were lightly injured & all returned home safely
— IDF (@IDFSpokesperson) July 13, 2014
According to ABC, the move comes after weeks of growing tensions and nearly a week of escalating missile strikes from both sides.
The mission was launched early Sunday local time comes after the UN Security Council urged the two sides to reach a cease fire, and the Israeli government said it hit northern Gaza "with great force" to prevent more Hamas rocket attacks.
During the incursion there was an exchange of fire with militants that left four Israeli soldiers lightly wounded, according to the IDF.
The IDF troops returned to Israel after the mission, and no soldiers were left in Gaza, the Israeli military said.
Of course, this is merely the first incursion into Gaza with many more to follow, in what appears is catalyst to escalate the conflict further, with the only question being just how will either side - as demanded by the UN - de-escalate, and more importantly, if the US will finally step in or whether it will continue to demonstrate the kind of peculiar aloofness that has allowed everyone from China to Russia to France and now, to Germany, to indicate that the former hegemon is increasingly living in a multipolar world, in which the US is taken far less seriously. If and when said attitude results in an adverse dollar impact, that will be the time for the residents at the Marriner Eccles building to quietly depart the US for non-extradition countries.
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i wonder if they are going to get their asses kicked like last time?
If they do, the Palestinians will be lynching Hamas commanders in the street.
Lol
Moving 25 commandos 1/2 a mile into Gaza and blowing up some shit and getting 4 wounded, is nothing to tweet about!!!
Geezus, tweet me when you have conquered Gaza and killed or relocated the 5 million people living there, to "someplace"!!!
Then the Jews can complete their warped, twist of history by completing their "final solution" for their little Arab problem!!
Oh the fucking Irony!!!
another anti-Semite commenting on zerohedge, what a surprise. If you think it is warped to defend ones self, you are a fucking lunatic.
Learn the history of Israel. Ther is no such person as a "palestinian". Its a made up name. Further, all the Arabs fled Israel, when they got prior warning from the Arab states, that they were going to attack Israel. They were promised the spoils of that invasion. ONly thing is, the Israelis fucked up all the Arab nations who collectively attacked them. Then the "palestinians" came crawling back. They left. They abandoned their country. They should have not been allowed to return.
if the Russians came in here and invaded, and Americans left, rather than stay and fight, I would be goddamned if I would let a single fucking one of them back.
Lastly, there have been tens of thousands of rockets launched on Israel by the PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the PA. They are all complicit. They have terrorized Israeli women and children, and have killed thousands with those rockets, with car bombs, bus bombs, and suicide vest wearing fucking animals. So cry me a fucking river, wiith your arab sympathy. Grow a fucking brain and learn what has really been going on over there. And until you've fought a muslim with a gun, shut the fuck up about humanitarian bullshit. Islamists kill their own children in "honor killings", marry 9 year olds, stone women for being raped, and basically kill eachother more than anyone else kills them.
If you think animals deserve humanitarian treatment when they have been bombing women and children for 70 years in Israel, then you need a fucking doctor, or just borrow a 1911 from someone and dispatch yourself, because you are a useless, islamofascist sympathizing toolbag. Get a fucking life douchebag. Get a fucking life!
speaking of ignorance... Palestinians are semites. So, supporting Palestinian freedom and opposing Isreal's genocide is not anti-semitism. (Ashkenazi Jews, on the other hand, are not Semites).
propaganda and lies... most of what westerners know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people
Anthropologists of the 19th century such as Ernst Renan readily aligned linguistic groupings with ethnicity and culture, appealing to anecdote, science and folklore in their efforts to define racial character. Moritz Steinschneider, in his periodical of Jewish letters Hamaskir (3 (Berlin 1860), 16), discusses an article by Heymann Steinthal[35] criticising Renan's article "New Considerations on the General Character of the Semitic Peoples, In Particular Their Tendency to Monotheism".[36] Renan had acknowledged the importance of the ancient civilisations of Mesopotamia, Israel etc. but called the Semitic races inferior to the Aryan for their monotheism, which he held to arise from their lustful, violent, unscrupulous and selfish racial instincts. Steinthal summed up these predispositions as "Semitism", and so Steinschneider characterised Renan's ideas as "anti-Semitic prejudice".
Aryan's are those who know the value of life. Which is to serve God 24/7. Aryans follow Vedic culture, the ancient and eternal culture which is based on Vedic transcendental knowledge. Hare Krishna's follow this culture. Jesus also was and is an Aryan. AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada spread Vedic transcendental knowledge and culture WW in the Sixties and Seventies of last century.
Dharma: What enemy is invincible? What constitutes an incurable
disease? What sort of man is noble and what sort is ignoble?
Yudhishthira: Anger is the invincible enemy. Covetousness constitutes a disease that is incurable. He is noble who desires the well-being of all creatures, and he is ignoble who is without mercy.
Dharma: Who is truly happy? What is the greatest wonder?
What is the path? And what is the news?
Yudhishthira: He who has no debts is truly happy. Day after day countless people die. Yet the living wish to live forever. O Lord, what can be a greater wonder? Argument leads to no certain conclusion, the Srutis are different from one another; there is not even one Rishi whose opinion can be accepted by all; the truth about Dharma and duty is hid in caves of our heart: therefore, that alone is the path along which the great have trod. This world full of ignorance is like a pan. The sun is fire, the days and nights are fuel. The months and the seasons constitute the wooden ladle. Time is the cook that is cooking all creatures in that pan (with such aids); this is the news.
SK,
thank you for that.
I just wanted to add:
"There is no fear beneath where the soul flies."
Live from your heart.
Very nice. Hare Krishna!
The Maraheshi touched my privates without permission.
Maharishi had got nothing to do with serving God. He was just another atheist from the East. Like we have so many cynical fools in the West.
Fuckin aye, the Jewish haters are out of the hole in the ground, imagine that.
So Israel, according to you cocksmokers, has no right to exist? Where is your right to exist?
ZH is a good site, but some of these NAZI's on here really piss me off. I say go learn some real history, before you condemn Israel.
Like what's happening on our southern border (Mexico)? Guess what, same shit going on there. When all the sunni and shiite sleeper cells wake up here in the USA, you will be singing a different tune asshats!
Many of you hate the Jewish State out of ignorance, stupidity and religion...when you point a finger like some of you do, three are pointing right back at ya --- FOOLS!!!
Israelis gather to enjoy the view of the Gaza slaughter:
http://rt.com/news/172324-israel-watching-gaza-attacks/
wtf is wrong with these people?
Slow night of reality TV.
This is even more startling: Knock on the Roof... wtf?
http://rt.com/news/172316-israel-knock-roof-video/
Your comparison is not valid, Abi. Illegals entering our country are allowed to by our corrupt government which is hell-bent on destroying what remains of the founding racial fabric of this once-great country.
Israel, on the other hand, was "founded" by a bunch a bought-off and duped nations who simply "declared" this one into existence in 1948. Suppose a community declares that my family has a right of return to your house because 4 generations ago, one of my ancestors grew up there. So, we move into one room... the next year we move into another... the next year another. After 66 years of this, you and YOUR family are finally confined to the shittiest part of the house - say, the unfinished basement (Gaza). Now, we interlopers are knocking on that door... no, we're bashing it in and we're killing anyone of your clan who resist our further intrusion. Sheeesh, you there in the cellar even have the audacity to demand the use of a fresh-water spigot (which we ration for you).
I hope you get the point. Palestine and its people are the rightful owners of the land... have been for 3,000 years. Indeed, THEY are the pathetic souls who deserve a "right of return".
So, don't compare arab outrage towards the invasions of their lands to the illegal invasion of the USA by Mexicans... it doesn't hold agua.
You are correct.
But imagine Israel would cease to exist and this scum was spreading even more all over the world?
Actually, Arab settlement of Palestine only started with Ottoman rule. The Turkish nobility, then ruling the land, required proletariat for working their estates while they would live the life in Damascus, Beirut and other cities of the Levant and used local Fellahin as such. And even a good deal of that settelment was seasonal. Only a few minor cities like Nablus, TulKarm and Jenin had permanent Arab residents. Only when foreign involvemen/investment in Palestine became substantial in the 19th century did Arabs en masse become full time residents of previously only seasonly inhabited tracts of land. I can provide sources for this.
So Israel, according to you cocksmokers, has no right to exist? Where is your right to exist?
Israelis have the the same right to exist as anyone else: not on someone else's land.
ZH is a good site, but some of these NAZI's on here really piss me off. I say go learn some real history, before you condemn Israel.
Why don't YOU learn some history? Like how the Arabs were living in Palestine for scores of generations before having their land stolen from under them by a bunch of scheming, murderous zionists?
moshe WHO IS THE COCK SMOKER YOU SICK SATANIST
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=+metzitzah+b%E2%80%99peh%2C
In terms of worldy politics are would definitely would choose for the Jewish people. Muslims generally are degraded, antagonistic to spiritual life, eternal knowledge and religion in goodness. Sharia law is for barbarians so that's what they in general are.
That's simply not true. Ashkenazi Jews actually have as much Semitic DNA as any other group on the planet. It's not for naught that Nazis emphasized the "foreign" appearance of Jews. You have to be on a special type of crack to say that Ashkenazis resemble Russians, Turks, or Ukrainians.
There you are, I was hoping with a slight (factual BTW) provocation you would show your lunatic, stupidity in all it's hypocritical glory!!
You call the entire Palestinian people "animals", you defend genocide with irrational religious zealotry, you want me to kill myself, and call me an anti-Semite, because I dare challenge YOUR fucking warped, dillusional sense of religious and moral superority over others! The douchebag posting here is you, you fucking, liberalized, genocidal, compartmentalized thinking, moral equivocating, dipshit!!
There is nothing MORE racist then calling a whole population of people "animals"!! And as far as history goes, you unlearned, repeating history, fuck wad, you made my point exactly, when I said, you'll be advocating a "final solution" soon!! Hitler justified the murder of Jews, by calling them "subhuman" and "inferior animals"!!
I'll end this post, like the did the last!
Oh the fucking irony!
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/facts-us-citizens-need-know-israe...
false propaganda
Get off your soapbox dumbass, you are just another clueless anti-semite, who will get yours in the end. When will you ant eaters ever learn? Never I say, and you will answer to a higher power for your ignorance.
No one sounds like more of a little dumbfuck then you do, are you some 22 year old Jewish brainwashed, testosterone addicted, zoolander watching wannabe, or what??
"Ant eater" and "anti-Semite", and Allah oh I mean Abraham or is it Jesus, or budda that will punish me "in the end"!!!
Take your irrational religious zealotry over to FoxNews.com or CNN you fucking little blowhard! Every person who questions your fucking fairy tale justifications for shit, isn't an anti-Semite who's not circumcised, you racist, Jewish superiority mongor!
Now go do some fairy tale rituals and go fuck yourself!
Right back at ya dumbfuck!
"all the Arabs fled Israel"
...absurd, ridiculous zionist propaganda. Jewish terrorist groups and guerilla forces forcibly expelled many while others fled the fighting - most of which, by the way was not in what the UN designated as 'Israel' - a purposefully misleading name, by the way. 350+ villages were burned and renamed. About 800,000 people who had once lived in Arab towns, centuries old, were prevented from returning, while Jews whose ancestors were in Poland and Germany for 1200 years claimed a 'birthright' to move in - first to pre-67 Israel, now to tghe 20% of the land which 100 years ago was 90%+ non-Jewish, and had been that way for many hundreds of years.
As to ancient history - the Egyptians ruled Israel/Palestine for longer than the petty Kingdoms of the Hebrews. Their artifacts litter the land as Zionist archaeologists and revisionists struggle to prove that David even existed.
He may not have, and if he did, he ruled over a hovel and a people who left barely a trace relative to the many other peoples that called the area home.
If you read "From Time Immemorial," of course, you might believe the anti-Arab mythos concocted by Jews from Europe bent on ethnic cleansing. And when I say Jews from Europe, I mean the signers of the 'Declaration of Independence' who changed Slavic and German names to Neo-Hebrew ones in an effort at sham legitimacy.
Is genetic science "anti-Semitic" too - because Talmudic esoterics does not account for it?
I mean people who have less connection to old Canaan than do the Palestinians. Speaking Arabic and being Muslim does not mean, of course, that Palestinians have only 'Arab' blood. Indeed the genetics establishes that they have more of a tie to the land, male and female lines, than do the Ashkenazi. No one, even most Islamists, maintains that the 'Palestinian' Jews - Mizrahi mainly - do not belong. They, too, lived there for centuries. In peace with Muslims and Christians [formerly 20-25% of what is now Israel] for centuries before Zionism, by the way.
Read "Beyond Chutzpah," or "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine," or "Goliath," or any number of books by Jewish authors who have the integrity to present the history of Israel's founding in blood, colonialism, and terror. This isn't to say the Arabs didn't commit massacres - they certainly did - but it is fair to distinguish between terrorists who arrive to conquer and ethnically cleanse and those who do not wish to be wiped of the map.
You rail, predictably, against "anti-Semites" meaning people who hate Jews merely for being Jews, and there's no shortage of the genuine kind, but there's also no shortage of their mirror image - hate filled liars like yourself.
What shall we call you?
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I don't think the critics of Israel on ZH, or elsewhere, support Muslim terrorism, or the goals of the Salafists. I also don't think they hate Jews, or want Israel to be destroyed. What they want is the occupation and slow burn ethnic cleansing to end, or at least be identified as what it is: racist, apartheid, myth-based state terror - financed by US taxpayers, and whitewashed by a heavily Jewish and Zionist media and political class.
The Koran is full of violence, truly, but so is the Torah and Talmud.
But where Allah hates unbelievers, Yahweh hates non-Jews.
Periodic quotes from 'respected' rabbis, often employed by the Jewish State, rips away the pretext of any universalist morality as inherent to Judaism. No, what you see from the settlers and the Zionist right is not merely 'extremism' - but fundamentalist Judaism, free to practice itself.
The fact that we can rail against Salafist terrorists, or the practices of fundamentalist Islamic states or groups, but are forbidden from discussing Jewish fundamentalist beliefs and morality (and are even accused of 'anti-Semitism' for even daring to mention the nastier bits of Judaic dogma - racists for mentioning the racism of the Jewish Orthodox) tells one all one needs to know about Zionist and Jewish power.
If you want peace, truly, you don't get there by adhering to myths - be they Christian, Islamic, or even Jewish.
Just because you have not met me does not prove I don't exist.
There is no denying it, we are on a Crazy Train.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRwvXJEdUWA
Ozzy. Crazy Train
But you mention nothing of when the Isrealis were kicked out of their homeland, how smart of you? NAZI's the lot of you, can jump in a lake of fire!
Fuck me, you are a heroically bad debater.
Anti-semite?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_VzxIVOKbs
Israeli Minster "We Always Use The Anti-Semitism Trick or Use The Holocaust Card
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSJS58Zz600
If the Jews packed up and moved 100 miles down the coast to where there is nothing, the pet sand niggers would follow them and start the same shit they create every where they go. Its got nothing to do with location and everything to do with the fact that your pet muslim genetic garbage cant get over their inadequacies. The nazi wannabes on this site, when the last kike is gone you can then spend eternity in peace with your hoards from Shitzlam.
Nozz,
The best comment here for ages. It does not matter if Jews moved to South Pole, the rag-head Islamists would follow them there and start the same shit-storm again and again. Idiots forever.
These jewish ans muslim tribal people are both blind followers of kabbalah-ishvara. Indeed, Lord Siva. Lord Siva is also known as bhutanathana, the worshipable deity of the dull headed. Haha, it's fun when you know about it. In any case; you have to die after some time in the material nature so better become transcendental to the material nature. Hare Krishna!
Didn't I meet you in the Airport?
Nice haircut.
The best comment here for ages. It does not matter if Jews moved to South Pole, the rag-head Islamists would follow them there and start the same shit-storm again and again. Idiots forever.
I see. So the Arabs who were living in Palestine for scores of generations were following the Ashkenazi who only invaded in the 1940's?
That's some inetresting 'thinking' you got going on there.
You know, I thought Israelis were smart. But when you read their attempts at defending their murderous, racist creed, they come across like brainwashed Nazis. Seriously. You guys are fucked up with your hatred.
I suppose the only way you can live with yourselves is to demonise the people you're fucking over every day.
That was ziobonics
@ Hugh, well said . A thousand up arrows from me. I will be goddammned if I will align myself with fucking muslim shit terrorists. Seeing some of this crap written by twice obama voters helps to explain the USA national suicide from within. Such stupidity is the norm now days.
Palestine was never an Arab entity and never belonged to the Arabs. The Jews of Israel did not steal the land from the Arabs. At the time of the rise of Zionism the Arab population in Palestine was 250,000 of whom the great majority were newcomers. What is more very few were land owners. They were debt-ridden peasants, nomads and Bedouins. Turkey owned 72% of the land. Sovereignty over the land was transferred to England and ownership passed to Israel, under international law, in 1948. 8.6% of the land was owned privately by Jews, 3.3% by Arabs who lived in Israel and 16.5% by Arabs who had left the land many years before.
The UN Partition Resolution offered the Arabs LIVING IN PALESTINE a state alongside the Jewish state. The Arabs of Palestine – and the surrounding countries – REJECTED the UN offer. Instead, on 14 May, 1948, five Arab nations invaded with the intention of destroying the Jewish state. In other words, it was the Palestinians and five Arab countries that tried, by destroying the Jewish state, to steal the land from the Jews.
Arabs owned land there and were disposessed by armed Zionists under threat of death.
Fuck you and your collectivism. People don't need to belong to a group to have rights. You can't deny human beings their rights just by claiming that their particular granfalloon doesn't exist.
New word for me "Granfalloon".
Wikipedia (safe to use for this purpose because the hasbara have no interest in fucking it up)
"The granfalloon technique is a method of persuasion in which individuals are encouraged to identify with a particular granfalloon or social group.[1] The pressure to identify with a group is meant as a method of securing the individual's loyalty and commitment through adoption of the group's symbols, rituals, and beliefs. In social psychology the concept stems from research by the British social psychologist Henri Tajfel, whose findings have come to be known as the minimal group paradigm. In his research Tajfel found that strangers would form groups on the basis of completely inconsequential criteria. In one study Tajfel subjects were asked to watch a coin toss. They were then designated to a particular group based on whether the coin landed on heads or tails. The subjects placed in groups based on such meaningless associations between them have consistently been found to "act as if those sharing the meaningless labels were kin or close friends." "
Reinforces my personal lack of faith in humanity as a joint clusterfuck. Thanks for the education.
Turkey owned 72% of the land. Sovereignty over the land was transferred to England and ownership passed to Israel, under international law, in 1948.
More zionist horseshit. The Ottomans stole land from the resident Arabs and thus 'owned' it? And 'sovereignity' - which the British had actually promised to the resident Arabs - somehow equals ownership?
And who the fuck were the British - or any of the criminal scum who write 'international law' - to give away the indigenes' right to self determination to a bunch of European Ashkenazi carpetbaggers?
The UN Partition Resolution offered the Arabs LIVING IN PALESTINE a state alongside the Jewish state. The Arabs of Palestine – and the surrounding countries – REJECTED the UN offer. Instead, on 14 May, 1948, five Arab nations invaded with the intention of destroying the Jewish state. In other words, it was the Palestinians and five Arab countries that tried, by destroying the Jewish state, to steal the land from the Jews.
It wasn't the Zionists' land. So exactly how would the Palestinians be 'stealing' land that was already theirs - and had been - for scores of generations?
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If a people don't belong to some nationality, they have no rights, according to Nazi Israelis.
And you blame people for leaving after Israeli military comes knocking on their door telling them to get out or they will kill them next time they come back?
You sound like a fucking psychopath having a breakdown. Any relation to Pat Bateman?
You're a real jackass. Come visit Israel and I'll show you literally hundreds of thousands of Arabs who are full Israeli citizens and who share the exact same legal status as Jews.
I challenge you to name me ONE Arab country in which Jews have full civil rights, let alone even exist.
according to DNA: paradoxicaly it is fake jews /khazars/ attacking and killing real ones /palestinians/
That was the 33 day war in Lebanon... the last time israel had to face something other than unarmed civilians... disaster.
Shooting fish in a barrel vs. frolicking with great white sharks
and the reason that israel has had to use the U.S. as muscle for decades. Americans too mind controlled to figure it out.
Economist tallies swelling cost of Israel to US
originally published December 9, 2002
By David R. Francis | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
Since 1973, Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion. If divided by today’s population, that is more than $5,700 per person.
This is an estimate by Thomas Stauffer, a consulting economist in Washington. For decades, his analyses of the Middle East scene have made him a frequent thorn in the side of the Israel lobby.
For the first time in many years, Mr. Stauffer has tallied the total cost to the US of its backing of Israel in its drawn-out, violent dispute with the Palestinians. So far, he figures, the bill adds up to more than twice the cost of the Vietnam War.
And now Israel wants more. In a meeting at the White House late last month, Israeli officials made a pitch for $4 billion in additional military aid to defray the rising costs of dealing with the intifada and suicide bombings. They also asked for more than $8 billion in loan guarantees to help the country’s recession-bound economy.
Considering Israel’s deep economic troubles, Stauffer doubts the Israel bonds covered by the loan guarantees will ever be repaid. The bonds are likely to be structured so they don’t pay interest until they reach maturity. If Stauffer is right, the US would end up paying both principal and interest, perhaps 10 years out.
Israel’s request could be part of a supplemental spending bill that’s likely to be passed early next year, perhaps wrapped in with the cost of a war with Iraq.
Israel is the largest recipient of US foreign aid. It is already due to get $2.04 billion in military assistance and $720 million in economic aid in fiscal 2003. It has been getting $3 billion a year for years.
Adjusting the official aid to 2001 dollars in purchasing power, Israel has been given $240 billion since 1973, Stauffer reckons. In addition, the US has given Egypt $117 billion and Jordan $22 billion in foreign aid in return for signing peace treaties with Israel.
“Consequently, politically, if not administratively, those outlays are part of the total package of support for Israel,” argues Stauffer in a lecture on the total costs of US Middle East policy, commissioned by the US Army War College, for a recent conference at the University of Maine.
These foreign-aid costs are well known. Many Americans would probably say it is money well spent to support a beleaguered democracy of some strategic interest. But Stauffer wonders if Americans are aware of the full bill for supporting Israel since some costs, if not hidden, are little known.
One huge cost is not secret. It is the higher cost of oil and other economic damage to the US after Israel-Arab wars.
In 1973, for instance, Arab nations attacked Israel in an attempt to win back territories Israel had conquered in the 1967 war. President Nixon resupplied Israel with US arms, triggering the Arab oil embargo against the US.
That shortfall in oil deliveries kicked off a deep recession. The US lost $420 billion (in 2001 dollars) of output as a result, Stauffer calculates. And a boost in oil prices cost another $450 billion.
Afraid that Arab nations might use their oil clout again, the US set up a Strategic Petroleum Reserve. That has since cost, conservatively, $134 billion, Stauffer reckons.
Other US help includes:
Stauffer’s list will be controversial. He’s been assisted in this research by a number of mostly retired military or diplomatic officials who do not go public for fear of being labeled anti-Semitic if they criticize America’s policies toward Israel.
Maybe they returned safely, I guess there are some Palestinians who won't be going anywhere anymore-
Isreal is over reaching again. Too many people don't know Jews and Palestinians lived in peace before they made Israel a state in 1947 and too many people do not know about the King David Hotel Bombings and the USS liberty.
Hamas are no Angels, neither is Israel
You are either a fucking moron or a liar. See the Hebron massacre of 1929. The Jews refuse to live as Dhimmi's anymore, with their life and property dependent on the whim of the particular caliph/imam/kaiser/etc. who rules at the time. Good for them.
People like you who disrespct others from the safety of a couch behind some avatar is what is wrong with this world.
There are too many like you out there, go to Detroit or Chicago, maybe they can teach you a lesson.
Ha!
Isn't that what you just did?
They even try for pogroms on the interwebz now days.
I am a victim oh lord I am a victim
Jews were happy to live as Dhimmis and to collaborate with Muslims when they were the wealthy beneficiaries of the Islamic invasion and occupation of Spain.
What changed?
The Hebron massacre was, indeed, an atrocious crime, and there is zero excuse for it, but it also took place in an environment where Jews were [before ww2, by the way] deliberately and obviously trying to displace Arabs who had lived there for centuries.
And in any event, there were plenty of massacres of Arabs by Jews before - and after. Indeed, Jews massacred people when they had the power to so do, from ancient Cyprus to more ancient Canaan - where they recorded their genocide in Joshua, and elsewhere.
I guess claiming 'god' ordered it isn't unique to the Muslims, eh?
Wtf are you talking about? There's a well documented Jewish community in hebron since classical antiquity. In south hebron hill there are even homes with mezuzas and synagogues dating from the Byzantine era still standing. Poets like yannai and yose Ben yose hailed from there. Arabs only came to Palestine during the Moslem conquest in the 7th century and even then only lived sedentary lives in limited numbers in very specific areas. Fact is, the ummayad capital was in Damascus and the abbassyd capital was in Baghdad. Jerusalem and Palestine in general were an irrelevant backwater, the only city with a permanent Arab presence being the regional capital of the Palestine province, (aka baladia a sham) Ramle (not to be confused with Ramallah, which was only settled permanently much later and is in the Benjamin hill country as opposed to Ramle which is on coastal plain and therefore much more suitable as an administrative center as it's easily accessible by caravans traveling between Egypt and Syria. Can you even fucking point Israel out on a map?
Taking the low road is hardly winning. Weak-charactered individuals should never be at the top. Cheating will always result in being exiled. The game is to be played fairly. The reason for this is because the frustration level impacts every aspect of life and is intolerable and unsustainable. We need our sleep. The high road to greatness is the only acceptable path.
The peace of the grave for the Jews in Hebron in 1927. If you think that the trouble started in 1947 you are thinking wrong. The trouble got going when the Turks were run out and both sides were no longer afraid of mass punishment (meaning torture and kill everyone remotely involved) after WWI. Both sides are happy to kill the other when opportunity strikes and this time is no different.
Both sides are happy to kill the other when opportunity strikes and this time is no different.
Not really. Here's how I see it:- if today all weapons disappeared from Gaza, there would be peace tomorrow
- if today all weapons disappeared from Israel there would be a massacre tomorrow
We all know this is true. Frankly, it's pretty fucking close to what you might call a global truth. If tomorrow all muslims died, there would no longer be 50 global conflicts, there'd be 2.I've come to realize, now in my 50's, that the Israeli/Palestine situation is nothing but a giant Stanford Prison Experiment gone awry....and everyone realizes who "the Guards" are....everyone that is, except the Guards
If all weapons disappeared from Gaza, the settlements would resume and so would the airstrikes.
You're probably a racist, but you're certainly vomiting hasbara nonsense amounting to the idea that Jews are good and peaceful, while Muslims ever and inevitably violent.
Jews are as violent as anyone else when they've had the power to be.
They even record it in their 'holy books.'
There is some truth in what you say but you are being too easy on the Israelis. They are a rough group and like to fight.
They only like to fight when they have all the weapons -otherwise they like shooting innocents in the back from afar. last time they actually started to fight, Hezbollah licked their ass and they ran away like scared chickens.
"if today all weapons disappeared from Gaza, there would be peace tomorrow" -yeah, because they'd all be slaves -or dead if they resisted. Actually most would be dead, or sold off to slavery in other parts of the world, because the joos don't need that many slaves on their plantation.
If Israel gave back the stolen land, then there would be Peace tomorrow.
waiekapa,
Great comment. Intellectually honest people know this to be true. One of the most disturbing trends in the world today is that people don't know the difference between good and evil. They don't seem to care. The Left has convinced people to ignore good and stand up for evil.
"Give us Gaza and there will be Peace"
Israeli's are chumps.
No they aren't, they have them in a wad right where they want them. It's summer time, those Hamass goons either have to fight or get a job.
That's just it. Israel doesn't want Gaza. "So the just kill people."
Israel made more sense when they controlled the Sinai peninsula...and if they had half a brain that is what they would be aiming for now..."actual security" not this "rank and file murder" as policy.
Probably too close the. Lebensraum to publicly state it...but the longer this drags out the more expensive this becomes. I think the idea of a US intervention is a pipe dream.
Read some history of the period say 1900 to 1947, you don't know what you're talking about.
Whose history?
We've got Barry's Border Babies to fret about here, you kids just go on out & play in the sandbox till they're safely tucked into FEMA beds in some condemned ramshackle houses up in Detroit.
Forward!
+1 nmewn. Perhaps I judged ye too soon.
bygones...
You have to read books cover to cover for yourself in order to get the full context. Just reading one chapter and saying done or going by someone elses cliff notes can have some severe consequences to ones understanding further down the road.
But be warned, there are many here who don't think in terms of merit or judgement.
Or so they would have you believe ;-)
Tweeting your military moves is pretty fucking gay.
Can't afford a presser? Trying to be hip? See, we cool! Tweet Tweet Tweet.
Careful now, you'll get a fatwa issued on you with the full force of ISIS's new caliphate-government for calling military tweets ghey ;-)
#AnalJihad
Oh yea forgot about them. Hard to keep track of the CIA's flavor of the month.
I gave the ISIS a pass on the tweeting thing as I thought they were making mock of the medium.
Nah. They only mock the Infidel
Israel is being stupid here. They should have opted for the Central Bank option in Palestine. Introduce credit/debt with land as collateral. And, may be Palestine could have had a bloodless coup like 1913 USA. That way no one would die (suddenly) and all this negative PR could be avoided.
cue the jew haters. look, id rather be a debt serf to a jew banker than live under sharia
Why are those the only two options? I vote for a third "Fuck them both" option.
Smackdaddy, that attitude is what allows either side to flourish!
Stand and resist both!
Here comes the goyim haters.
Ground forces against rocket launch sites is legit.
Your idea, whether or not you actually are stupid enough to believe it, that criticism of Israel's government and/or military is "Jew hate" is a convenient excuse for dismissing all criticism as invalid a priori.
Which is perhaps why so many of Israel's apologists operate in a realm immune to "facts."
so smackdaddy's world involves either a dick in the ass or a dick in the mouth. priceless. Its one or the other for smackdaddy here!
I'd rather be neither if that's ok with your chosen lordship highness.
Grossaktion Gaza(2014)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grossaktion_Warsaw_%281942%29
Nothing from Hezbollah.
Hezbollah is in Lebanon you moron. They are shia; Hamas is Sunni.
No shit Sherlock. "Wanna see a two front war?"
Mostly because Hezbollah is allied with Iran, and thus is VERY unlikely to help Sunni's.
There were, of course, plenty of Shi'as in Gaza before Hamas came to power. There were plenty of Jews even, before the second intifada (which was a lie, by Hamas, even if they weren't called that yet, and it's not like the second intifada was the trigger for Jew hate in Gaza). Now there is only, and exclusively Sunni muslims, and tiny pockets of Christianity that are feeling VERY threatened.
You should never forget that. Sunni muslims are waging a war of extermination against everyone. That's what the goal is of Hamas, ISIS, and frankly Saudi Arabia (not the state, but definitely the population).
We should respond in kind. That's what it's going to end in anyway.
The joke is that this is not -at all- the first time Sunnis try this. They tried it 1400 years ago, to be stopped by Charles Martel. They tried in Spain, they tried in Italy, they tried on Sicilia, they succeeded in Egypt, they succeeded in Morocco, they succeeded (eventually) in Turkey,they tried in Israel, Somalia, ... it always ends in a massacre, the only difference is who did the killing. Note: the difference is not who starts the killing, merely who ends it. This is something that has been a constant of history since islam was founded.
If history plays out like before, pretty soon we'll have a 9/11 style event, but not a plane going into a building. It'll be a group of 1000 muslims with knives that simply start exterminating everyone in some western city (probably in Europe, it has already happened in Kosovo after all). Thousands of victims, most with slit throats. Of course the army will be sent in, and the army will see what happened, and start killing any group of muslims they can find because they can find no other way to end the violence. After that, every muslim nationwide will not really have a choice anymore, and the events will repeat. After that, being muslim will mean no passport or worse. If you think this is unfair, think of what happens in countries where the muslims win. They are the cause of this, and only they can stop it, and they won't. The arguments against that basically boil down to "this time it's different".
Welcome to the 21st century. Looks a hell of a lot like the 19th to me. Financially, and geopolitically.
Hey, don't forget the Maadi who rose in the Sudan in the 19th century.
His army wiped out "Chinese" Gordon at Khartoum.
It took the British Army a while to invade and wipe out his followers (the maadi croaked not long after the victory).
The ISIL group is the next incarnation of the Maadi in Sudan.
Israel created Hamas....
Hamas is the local branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. They see themselves as local part of the worldwide jihad movement.
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."
- a hadith, quoted in the Hamas charta.
and yet Iran itself stands accused of aiding Hamas, which, by the way was created and fostered by Israel, to, by the way, help prevent any sort of peace deal that might frustrate the continued building of settlements - the purpose of which is to simply prevent a Palestinian state.
ISIS is Sunni in that it is no doubt assisted and aided by Turkey and S.A. - but it is not unlikely the CIA and Mossad are helping them sow chaos. Oded Yinon plan and all... heard of it? Heard of "Securing the Realm" or "Rebuilding America's Defenses"?
Also, elements of the US government and Israel and its sayanim neocon traitors did 9/11.
http://lesvisible.net/DOCS/MastersOfDeception.pdf
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it
http://www.voltairenet.org/article179295.html
Oh, but - you "know" without even reading anything that it "must be" not only false but merely derived from a baseless "hate" - is that right??
Jesus, a lot of people know that. At a minimum, however, nobody of above average intelligence can possibly think the 'official story' makes any sense.
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/874-why-i-am-convi...
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/879-debunking-the-...
Doesn't mean all Jews or all Israelis are bad, it does mean there is a deeply embedded criminal Zio/Globalist network in the US, UK, Israeli governments.
Makes you wonder, who killed those 3 Jewish teenagers. ...... hmmm
Depends who you wanna bomb.
#BootsStompingYourGonads
Carnage. I think this time is different.
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerers of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh lord yeah!
Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out and fight?
They leave that role to the poor
Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait 'till their judgment day comes
Yeah!
Now in darkness world stops turning
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgment, God is calling
On their knees the war pig's crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing spreads his wings
Oh lord yeah!
For the illiterate
saw black sabbath
at Watkins glen in 1973..
too high..
Saw The Eagles in Winnipeg 1978. Not high enough!...lol
Rush:Presto Tour. So fucking wasted I bought my tickets twice.
Saw Black Sabbath with Dio in 2006. Made the mistake of smoking a concert blunt that was getting passed around. 15 feet from Dio giving the horns in red light, and I'm trippin ballsack.
You must have been really high...
Because they weren't there.
Allman Bros., The Band and arguably the best Dead show ever.
I might have seen you wandering during the rain. You were REALLY high.
Thanks a lot....This means no more record deals for Ozzy.
don't worry his zio-wife will smooth things over with the labels
no matter how many children die no matter how many men and woman of occupied palestine are vaporized turned to dust.
no matter the hundreds crippled and white phosphorus burned.
goy just remember the jews are suffering
the yids are innocent
everyone else is guilty and must say sorry and pay compensation.-
Hamas should build more walls to keep Israeli's out of their country and less bombs bitchez
Dow 17,000,000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anyone heard a squeek out of isis over the last few days on the matter of palestine.
it would seem the isis is not aware of what is happening in palestine.
this is rather starange as al nusra and the isis injured are being treated in idf military hospitals within the state of israhell.
and all that gear that was just handed over to "ISIS"... should be pretty obvious, another false flag army to sow chaos and death. Zionism at its finest. /s
Wash, Rinse....Repeat.
After Iraq ISIS is planning to take out the king of jordan. They said so publicly. then they will share the border with Israel then a mega war with Israel will begin. in 5 years is my guesstimate.
Too many Jew haters here. They don't even bother with logic or with anything that has to do with global jihad by too many muslims.
Too bad we can't unleash ISIS on washington and wall Street for a few days.
I wonder how the USA would be like if we didn't have the Israel monkey on our back and without the FED/IMF/World Bank bulls**t.
Seriously -do you think Global Jihad really has anything to do with it? Without CIA/ Mossad, Saudi Qatarian money -and continued sponsorship, ISIS wouldn't exist. These guys are actos -at least their leaders are -they are high paid mercenaries reading a Global Jihad script -just like Obama reads the script his handlers put in front of him each day.
Those 19 Arabs who allegedly did 911 had similar sponsorship.
You are 'Spot On' in my opinion mate.
The Syrian war wouldn't exist if the US money wasn't arming them. Mind you, Russian money is probably arming the other side?
ISIS wouldn't exist without US money. 1500 ISIS and Al Nusra soldiers are being treated right now in Tel Aviv Hospitals.
Look at Africa. All that chaos is being funded. Libya was happy clappy land before NATO started bombing the crap out of the joint.
Israel? I don't know who is in the wrong. I think both of them are and, there will NEVER be peace there until someone wins and someone loses.
Although many here think that the Bible is full of garbage ( I don't) it clearly states that the end of the world happens when Israel is surrounded by her enemies.
That may be not be that far off.
"1500 ISIS and Al Nusra soldiers are being treated right now in Tel Aviv Hospitals."
I don`t think so. Any credible source to back that up?
Last time I checked Turkey is their retreat of choice.
Keep thinking that. Without western support you would still have these mujaheddin groups and tribal militias. It is a real ideology that keeps drawing in fresh blood every day.
Not denying europe, us and israel have had their roles too, but they're not directing the jihad movement. That a gross overestimation of the amount of influence we have there, or how conflict politics works even.
Jihad truly is a movement supported by a lot of normal Arabs. There are middle class saudis flying in to Syria on weekends to do their part for jihad. There are a lot of charity orgs that either provide real charity or serve as money funnels for the fighters. There's such a thing as a professional jihadi, that takes home a salary and has everything arranged for him, cars, passports, housing, food, equipment, a wife...There's a lot of support on the ground for these guys... That tells you there's a lot more going on than something purely directed from a intelligence desk somewhere. Of course, everybody is going to be involved and will want to use the group for their own goals and will happily throw money and weapons their way to make it so. But jihad is NOT created by the west. Stop overestimating ourselves!!
who is goldstein why everyday should be hate day
hate spills from the lack of justice you fucker.
cunt some of us are tired of jews putting on stick on hollywood beards and playing mad mullars
fuck you
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=+metzitzah+b%E2%80%99peh%2C
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMkX5uemLyk
ISIS is funded by Israel, YFI.
no incorrect, too many lovers of the evil kikes here, at least you didn't use the anti semitic lie, since the palestinians are the real semites.
The "innocent Pali civilian" deaths are all on Hamas.
If Hamas would stick those rocket up their ass, no "innocent Pali civilians" would be harmed.
This is true. The civilian deaths on the Hamas side are human shields. They routinely place their rockets, terrorists, and leaders right next to schools, churches, homes, etc. This is the number ONE reason why they should NEVER be recognized as a nation state!
Israel has every right to defend itself. It is the only nation on earth that is told not to defend itself.
Hamas is the terrorist organization. It is the one that uses human shields and refuses to have peace or a cease fire. Hamas is to blame for every single death on both sides, and people with intellectual honesty need to stand up and tell the truth.
The sad truth is that Hamas will never broker peace, because they win no matter who dies on either side.
Goldman says this whole Israel vs Muslims thing is transient.
I say it's just noise.
The exchange here is fascinating, but can anyone tell me why I should trust news reports coming out of Hamas-controlled regions any more than I trust our own msm?
Some of you are so cynical about finding truth in reporting from the msm, but then are ready to swallow reports from channels controlled by Hamas hook-line-and-sinker. How are you any more sure that 150 Palestinians are dead than you are that the Iron Dome is really working as well as Israel claims?
AOr is it that you really just hate Jews? Just askin.
The Iron Dome works. One of the problems with this situation is the so-called "disproportionate" warfare argument, which is BS. Ok, Hamas sends rockets into Israel every day, and they don't care what they hit. Israel has the ability to defend itself, and it does. Then when Israel decides to fight back (which is pretty rare, since the ENTIRE world calls for Israel to have restraint), it is accused of disproportionate warfare, meaning it is stronger than Hamas/Gaza and shouldn't respond with a stronger force.
This is absolute BS, and it is the entire reason why Hamas/Gaza continues to do what they do. They are the bully. This is known worldwide. They are also the weaker entity. This is also known worldwide.
Unfortunately, there is a Leftist UN idea that the stronger entity should not use any greater force than the bully (weaker entity). This idea only makes the bully stronger, of course, which makes things worse.
It is painful to see how many people fall for the propaganda. The Palestinians will dig up dead children in order to show them on tv, and people fall for the emotional BS. Yes, there are probably more dead on the Hamas/Gaza side than the Israel side, because Israel can defend itself with the Iron Dome. Hamas/Gaza are perfectly able to stop sending rockets into Israel whenever they wish.
But they won't, because they eventually get Israel pissed enough to flatten them and then they cry "Look what Israel's doing to poor innocent me".
And the lefty robots eat it up.
Yep. Pathetic what people will fall for.
An interesting take on this can be found at: http://wariscrime.com/new/hamas-was-founded-by-mossad/
The propagandists swing into effect. Like they have to be on call 24/7 to spread internet propaganda at a moment's notice. What a sad life.
Anyways my patience is starting to wear thin with this shit.
The real crux of the problem is that Israe'ls planners have no good will towards a two state solution with Palestine, which is the authentic Semite homeland. They simply want it all, and more, and are prepared to do whatever it takes to get it, mostly via deception, which they are exceptionally good at. The fake and real semites now hate each other so much that goodwill and trust is impossible to establish. How else can the fake semite g_d, Lucifer, continue to establish total ownership over his captured domain except by convincing the imposters that they are "chosen", and set them against the "lesser" inhabitants in their own home. The deceivers have been deceived by their g_d, for as Christ said of the followers of the Sanhedrin, "there is no God in them" and when there is only bling where God should be, you don't have "ears" to hear and so all kinds of shit can crawl up your ass. For now the imposter cutout servants of Satan hold the upper hand, but time is longer than rope, and this is the real Gods universe.
Joe Biden called. They told him to make it a peperoni and double cheese.
Order 2 extra large with only cheese and we'll throw in a Genuine Shotgun Super-Soaker, small enough to hide behind your back, big enough that even a grandpa can steadily hold it in two hands. But wait! There's more! For an additional $49.95 including $35.99 postage and handling plus your mother's maiden name and the last four of your social security number (valid for numbers issued anywhere but Connecticut) we'll throw in a Do It Yourself, Available only on TV, 3 Hair Home Follicle Transplant Kit and two free passes on Amtrack's Scabie Limited between Gopher Plug, Texas and San Francisco, CA, with free cab fare to the Castro for a evenings entertainment at the new men's entertainment club, The Vault.
All anyone needs to know about Muslims and Israel - it has NOTHING to do with land and everything to do with HATE - wake up stupid Americans - No one can coexist with Islam - there are only 2 choices - submit or be killed.
Is Peace Possible in the Middle East? Appearantly Not Without The Death of Billionshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY8FW_JW73Q
They do make that shit pretty damned clear. Hell, even the most Progressive lefties out here in the Great Statiat Godless Nation of Other People's Belongings have trouble when confronted with that reality.
http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-01-110714.html
Maybe someday people will get that message through their thick heads and realize that we can't assimilate Muslims into western society and expect them to change their fundamental beliefs towards their religion. We need to have them out of our biz and we need to stay out of theirs.
Substitute the word Jews for Muslims in your post and the result is the same. Unless of course you think the wallstreetmilitary complex is good for America.
The whole world knows about the land theft there....so stop spreading that b.s. here. Breaks over, get back to hebrew school Moshe.
What land theft, lying ahole?
Regular ZHers know my opinion of Zionist Termites.
I have no problem with Israelis stopping rockets. Nobody wants dead civilians on either side.
I do not blame the arabs in Gaza for their resentment at the hands of the Zionists.
The obvious answer is both sides stop shooting, but the animosity runs too deep.
Of course, this is stating the obvious, but there are a lot of Jews and Muslims there who do not want any violence. Their voices are not in control.
Americans are under an invasion created by their own (rogue) government. Americans are not in control of their country, either. Their government has been usurped by Dictatorship and (soft) martial law, but Americans cannot shake their normalcy bias. It very difficult to accept their own president armed numerous forces in Mexico, initiated mass violence, then planned and executed an invasion and abrogation of Law.
We are ALL under the thumb of the International Termite. Until all people wake up and throw off the yoke, we will have violence staged by TPTB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFkANvtxLoY
Fuck the Zionist Pig who shot a red arrow.
All of you fucking bastards will roast with your false god Lucifer, Motherfuckers.