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Merkel Slams Obama's "Cold War" Espionage "Doesn't Belong In 21st Century"

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On the heels of John Kerry's accusation that Russia's behavior does not belong in the 21st century, Germany's Angela Merkel has come out swining against the escalating spying scandal with the US (which saw allegations that the US had recruited two Germans to sell secrets this week). During an interview with ZDF, the German leader blasted “that we have different perceptions on the work of intelligence services," adding that "we don’t live in the Cold War anymore." The White House's response, so far, a shrug of 'business-as-usual' from Josh Earnest; which fits with Merkel's conclusion: "I think it's not that easy to convince the Americans ... to completely change the way their intelligence services work."

As AP reports,

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is doubtful the U.S. will stop spying on Germany.

 

The chancellor said in an interview with public broadcaster ZDF "I think it's not that easy to convince the Americans ... to completely change the way their intelligence services work."

 

Germany on Thursday demanded Washington's top spy in Berlin leave the country as a new round of allegations of U.S. espionage worsened the friction between the two allies.

 

That move followed reports that U.S. intelligence had recruited two Germans — a man who worked at the country's foreign intelligence agency and a defense ministry employee.

 

Asked whether she expected the Americans to change their behavior when it comes to spying on Germany, Merkel said "I can't predict that, but certainly hope it will change."

Topped off by her slamming Obama's approach...

The past week’s clash over espionage shows “that we have different perceptions on the work of intelligence services,” Merkel says. “We don’t live in the Cold War anymore.”

 

Merkel says "methods of the past" don't belong to 21st century

The US does not seem to care too much... (as The Hill reports)

On Friday, White House press secretary Josh Earnest appeared to indicate the U.S. believed the alleged spying between the allies was par for the course in comments to reporters.

 

“Allies with sophisticated intelligence agencies like the United States and Germany understand with some degree of detail exactly what those intelligence relationships and activities entail,” Earnest said.

 

Any differences that we have are most effectively resolved through established private channels, not through the media. These private channels include regular discussions between intelligence officials, diplomatic officials, and national security officials from those two countries. So pursuing that dialogue through those channels is exactly what we’re doing.”

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Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:12 | 4951255 jcpicks
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Who needs friends?

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:21 | 4951275 knukles
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Endearing people to one another, one country at a time. 
How some people expected this to turn out any different is just beyond me?

Oh what the fuck, Johnie Boy "Sphincters for Splinters" Kerry will tell them what they don't wanna believe he tells them. 
Immemorial.
Whadde say?

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:51 | 4951325 kliguy38
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One simple question biatch......where's your fochin' gold? Now sit down you old dyke and STFU

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 00:20 | 4951391 AlaricBalth
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A negligible amount of data gathered by our intelligence services is for the welfare of the American people. For the most part, information is gathered to advance the interests of bankers, favored multinational corporations and the globalist agenda. Merkels accusation of the US spying on Germany is a false premise.

The US intelligence leviathan is a conduit for those powers behind the curtain who seek keep the people enslaved in a state controlled environment designed to maintain the status quo. A good analogy would be a modern zoo. No cages, regular feedings (via SNAP cards) in a monitored, finite habitat, with the captive animals being granted the illusion of freedom.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 00:25 | 4951583 Radical Marijuana
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Correct, AlaricBalth!

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 01:24 | 4951648 DollarMenu
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Was there an expiration date on that unconditional surrender?

Looks like the USSA believes it to last forever.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 07:04 | 4951830 GetZeeGold
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"Doesn't Belong In 21st Century"

 

Leave Cloward and Piven and Saul Alinsky back in the 60's where they belong while you're at it.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 09:34 | 4951961 TahoeBilly2012
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Comment of the month!

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 10:35 | 4952104 shovelhead
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If Kerry came to your door with a Watchtower magazine, d'ya think you'd join up?

Maybe the plan is to get everyone to hate us worse than they already do?

Pretty damn clever, because I think it's working...

 

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:05 | 4951352 813kml
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Geez Germany, why so paranoid?  Can't you just accept that the US loves you and wants to know your whereabouts every second of every day?  The US is your big cuddle bear and just wants to protect you from creepy people, like that Russian slut that works at the coffee shop that you were flirting with.  Don't deny it, we saw you give that smile while she flipped her hair and talked of gold sovereignty and pipelines and sound monetary policy.  That bitch doesn't know you like the US does, she doesn't know what you need.

The US loves you dearly and we will never be apart.  Ever.  Don't even think about it.

Love,

Your United States of sweety pookums

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:22 | 4951389 StychoKiller
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"They only get restraining orders to prove how much they luv you!"

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 09:36 | 4951965 TahoeBilly2012
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Sore subject, I just broke up with my favorite sugar baby.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 00:43 | 4951610 GOLDTRADERRR
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Angela Merkel has come out swining against the escalating spying scandal with the US 

'SWINING'?

Are you implying something about Ms Merkel?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 02:49 | 4951714 post turtle saver
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"Germany's Angela Merkel has come out swining..."

lol... the Freudian slips on this site just keep coming, high entertainment

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 10:39 | 4952116 shovelhead
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Probably because the thought of Angie SWINGING brings up some rather unwholesome images...

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:39 | 4952519 doctor10
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So what's so wrong with being the world's neighborhood stalker and peeping Tom?

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:11 | 4951257 G.O.O.D
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I have to agree with that ole whore. Spying is so juvenile

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:16 | 4951268 Rican
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"Germany's Angela Merkel has come out swining..."

 

One of the fun times when a Tyler typo is spot on.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:52 | 4951333 swmnguy
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Indeed.  I hope it doesn't get fixed.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 11:46 | 4952305 FeralSerf
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How do you know it's a typo and not a subliminal message?

Propaganda experts have many tools in their bags of tricks whose objectives are to fuck with our heads without us realizing they are doing so.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:22 | 4951276 Emergency Ward
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Earnest is the new fucking liar who replaced that fucker Carney who replaced that fucker Gibbs.  What a bunch of assholes.  "Private channels"?  What the fuck?!?

Public becomes private in the hands of the US Government???  The media can't know about Government activity because it's private.  Let's ask Dick Cheney if that's a fair assessment of the Obama Administration's position.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:22 | 4951283 knukles
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They'll talk about it over the phone a lot.
Can you hear me now?

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:31 | 4951293 taggaroonie
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Every brand of uniformed thugs has its "intelligence" branch, which, in turn, has its own interrogators, who, frankly, give me the willies.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:31 | 4951295 nmewn
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"No ones reading your emails!" "No ones listening to your phone calls!" "You'll save on average $2,500 a year!" "You can keep your doctor." "We are the change you've been waiting for!" "Jobs saved or created."

Hard pivot...

"Eat your peas!"

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 01:29 | 4951651 Harbanger
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And to think just a few years ago in Berlin the Germans were so wooed by the historic Obama.
People fainting and everything. Suckers, Now they're being racist.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 10:00 | 4952018 nmewn
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Yes.

And now that a firm majority has finally figured out he came to destroy everything around him (not build anything) they stand there with their mouths hanging open or back to sucking their thumbs in the corner.

Its a good place for them, they feel warm & safe & secure there...for now.

"Meanwhile, as Obama has refused to enforce immigration law, the result is chaos. Tens of thousands of children are flooding across our border illegally, on the scent of Obama’s executive-order amnesties. (Edit: He's talking about DACA here, an Executive Order-Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals-that he signed in June of 2012 because he has a pen & a phone or sumpin).

Advocates of open borders, such as progressive grandees Mark Zuckerberg and Nancy Pelosi (Edit: And the Wall Street Journal and Adelson etal) , assume that these impoverished Third World children will not enroll in the private academies attended by their children or grandchildren,  or need housing in one of their vacation estates, or crowd their specialists’ waiting rooms. They do not worry about the effects of illegal immigration on the wages of low-income Americans. Dealing first-hand with the ramifications of open borders is for unenlightened, illiberal little people. (Edit: They assume correctly.)

Obama’s economic legacy is rarely appreciated. He has institutionalized the idea that unemployment between 6 and 7 percent is normal, that annual deficits over $500 billion reflect frugality, that soaring power, food, and fuel costs are not proof of inflation, that zero interest rates are the reward for thrift, that higher taxes are always a beginning, never an end, and that there is no contradiction when elite progressives — the Obamas, the Clintons, the Warrens — trash the 1-percenters, while doing everything in their power to live just like them."

http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2014/07/11/cloward-piven-everywhere/?singlepage=true

Almost hunting season ;-)

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 10:46 | 4952139 post turtle saver
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yes, but I need an answer on one small detail... rabbit season or duck season?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:43 | 4952545 doctor10
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"Homeland Security" is their anticipation of opening day .

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 11:50 | 4952329 FeralSerf
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Livestock often believe that their herders are just there to protect them and feed them. The livestock can't believe that the herders would ever lie to them or send them to the slaughter house. Livestock aren't very smart.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:33 | 4951296 SMC
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The US has intelligence agencies that "work"? ROFL.

Work for who?

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 23:07 | 4951302 Angry Plant
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A women with rumored deep dark secrets doesnt like spies.

Would would guessed that,

Maybe she should focus on the french spies and russian spies targeting germeny next.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:46 | 4951311 JustObserving
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Jesus, Merkel, you must know that the CIA/NSA run this country since November 22, 1963 when John Kennedy's brains were shattered into a thousand pieces.

Kennedy had promised to shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.

Now the NSA spies on everyone - the Supreme Court, Congress and the White House.  Obama's first job was working for a CIA front company but he forgot to mention that in his 450 page autobiography "Dreams from My Father."

Here is a Snowden revelation:

The most extraordinary passage in the memo requires that the Israeli spooks “destroy upon recognition” any communication provided by the NSA “that is either to or from an official of the US government.” It goes on to spell out that this includes “officials of the Executive Branch (including the White House, Cabinet Departments, and independent agencies); the US House of Representatives and Senate (members and staff); and the US Federal Court System (including, but not limited to, the Supreme Court).”

The stunning implication of this passage is that NSA spying targets not only ordinary American citizens, but also Supreme Court justices, members of Congress and the White House itself. One could hardly ask for a more naked exposure of a police state.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/13/surv-s13.html

 

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:43 | 4951429 disabledvet
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No one in DC seems to care. Is a little odd to see Chancellor Merkel go full on SMERSH especially given that the only actual spy in all this is Putin.

Perhaps some type of "blanket missive" is what is meant here? It is ironic that the only place everyone agrees the EU is all good for is Ukraine.

That looks and sounds an awful lot like war to me.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 23:07 | 4951475 dogbreath
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SMERSH  -  DEATH TO SPIES

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:47 | 4951320 G.O.O.D
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When is the NSA going to show us a picture of the first ladies cock?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 00:34 | 4951601 Miffed Microbio...
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Considering that information is vital to national security, probably not soon. We must be content to occasional wind bursts revealing unseemly bulges I'm afraid.

Miffed;-)

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 21:49 | 4951329 Van Halen
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Hey Merkel, think Obama spying on you is bad? You should see what he's doing to us!

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 01:10 | 4951636 TBT or not TBT
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Germany already has nationalized health care, top down control of education, circumscribed property rights, state suppression of religion, a very weak military, a massive welfare state, and everyone packed into densely populated cities and towns, with very expensive fuel, food, electricity and quite limited disposable income, but plenty of funemployment lifestyle choices to choose from.   

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 10:47 | 4952141 LetsGetPhysical
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Maybe we were just spying to find out how to better institute socialism here. Merkel should take it as a complement. 

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:04 | 4951350 monad
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German "agents" in America have open access to most of the same stuff that US spies have to break the law to get in Germany (Russia, China, Cuba). The hypocrisy... the hypocrisy...

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:07 | 4951356 Whatta
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What country doesn't try and spy on all others?

Politicians are all the evil dividers (doers). Power and control is what they are all about. They "hate our freedom"

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:23 | 4951393 NoWayJose
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At least during the Cold War we mostly spied on our 'enemies'

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:23 | 4951395 JustPrintMoreDuh
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Ve have vays of making you walk

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:25 | 4951398 NoWayJose
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Angela - shouldn't you be asking why German companies cannot come up with a way to STOP the NSA?

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:28 | 4951402 exartizo
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wait.... did he REALLY say that they think Germany is spying on the US?

ya just can't make this stuff up.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:29 | 4951404 rum_runner
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>>  "I think it's not that easy to convince the Americans ... to completely change the way their intelligence services work."

 

Wait.. we have a choice?  I'd ROFL but for the tears.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:40 | 4951427 NihilistZero
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"I think it's not that easy to convince the Americans ... to completely change the way their intelligence services work."

I think it's not that easy to convince the unaccountable and wholly unrepresentative of it's citizens American "government" ... to completely change the way their intelligence services work.

FIFY Frau Merkel

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:31 | 4951411 tony wilson
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fat leather faced blackmailed ex man whore.

until this cunt talks about the gold this is more bullshit window dressing and nice cover for the palestine hollocaust by the zionist nazi kosher rats.

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:34 | 4951417 WTFUD
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' INTELLIGENCE SERVICES ' such an oxymoron.

An Emotionally detached friendless existence of a meaningless life slotting perfectly into the dark corridors of Government & Corporate corrupt practices.

Low-life Mafioso

Sat, 07/12/2014 - 22:39 | 4951424 MountainsRoam
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Merkel please send our military home, we are bankrupt..

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