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Orwell Would Be Proud: US Media Admits Divine Right To Decide What Public Needs To Know

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

Yesterday afternoon, I happened to read a seemingly innocuous enough article in Time by Justin Lynch titled: Bloggers, Surveillance and Obama’s Orwellian State. The article covered the usual bases. Such as the fact the Obama Administration is the least transparent ever, how it has attacked whistleblowers and journalists more than all other Presidents combined, and how citizen journalists pose a threat to the corrupt and dying status quo. All things that we already know.

One of the people quoted in the article is Pentagon correspondent for the New York Times, Thom Shanker, who proudly noted “his employer has implemented rigorous standards to balance the security risks of reporting classified information with the public’s right to know.”

While this guy’s assumption that bureaucrats and media personalities posses this divine right to decide what the public “has a right to know,” is extremely disturbing in its own right, what it really masks is a deep seated opinion of his own superiority compared to the unwashed masses. This seems to really come out in the extraordinarily disturbing final paragraph of the article:

The government really needs to get its message out to the American people, and it knows that the best way to do that is by using the American news media, said Shanker. The relationship between the government and the media is like a marriage; it is a dysfunctional marriage to be sure, but we stay together for the kids.

That right there is why this country is in such deep shit. We have mediocre, control-freak bureaucrats in the mainstream media and government who see themselves as our parents. That we are little children who need to be told what to do. Sure, he may try to spin this as if he was talking about their respective employees, but we all know that’s not true. These people must be peacefully removed from all positions of power as soon as possible.


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Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:33 | 4952494 TeamDepends
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It is becoming increasingly apparent that we are well and truly fucked.  Anybody have a plan?  Forget that, has anyone seen the Exit?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:34 | 4952503 InjectTheVenom
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FOR THE KIDS ! !    lol

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:35 | 4952508 JohnnyBriefcase
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Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:52 | 4952564 Future Jim
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"These people must be peacefully removed from all positions of power as soon as possible."

Do they remove us from our homes peacefully?

Do they take our children peacefully?

Try not paying taxes and see what happens.

They are trying to provoke armed conflict with the people.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:01 | 4952591 Liberal
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I trust the government to run my life. I trust the government to educate and raise my kids. I trust the government to tell me what to think, what to believe, what to hate and what matters in my life. I trust the government to tell me when I'm sick, healthy and when I should die. That's why I'm paying the government, isn't it? Umm, I mean, that's why YOU are paying the government (on behalf of me and all of us public employees as well...Thank you taxpayers!).

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:11 | 4952636 Latina Lover
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This is how media operates in a fascist society. Feel familiar?

Joseph Goebbels quotes  “It would not be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition and a psychological understanding of the people concerned that a square is in fact a circle. They are mere words, and words can be molded until they clothe ideas and disguise.” “Think of the press as a great keyboard
on which the government can play.” “The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.”


Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:14 | 4952653 Pladizow
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Mike Kreiger: waaaaaaa

Uncle Sam: Shut up and eat your peas

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:54 | 4952781 Save_America1st
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They sure didn't "remove" Michael Hastings peacefully, did they?  They blew his ass sky high.  If there are people in the military, government, or media who are found to be conspiring against the public, lying, witholding, etc. then fuck 'em.  Remove them with extreme predjudice.  They most certainly do it to the regular "folks" all the time with impunity.  The line between us and them is too great at this's not a thin red's the fucking Grand Canyon of disagreement.  I doubt anything peaceful is going to come of all this at this point, because we (the good guys) do try to be peaceful but will defend ourselves with force if/whenever necessary.  But they (the bad guys), only preach peace but conspire to kill every last one of us.  We're going to have to come to that realization when the shit hits the fan and then get downright ruthless with all of them, because at that point it will be all or nothing.  Either they're wiped out or we're wiped out.  There won't be any comprimising between us until a massively one-sided victory is realized.  Like us against the Japanese.  They must be forced to 100% capitulate or it's no fucking deal. 

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 15:34 | 4953061 benb
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Let's not forget Andrew Breitbart... Who on the night before he was to expose the Obama Administration for running a pay off operation through Holder's law firm allowing any Wall Street criminal with a sack of cash immunity from federal prosecution got his ass NDAA'd.

BTW -The Wall Street Journal is a CIA propaganda rag run by thieves and traitors.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 15:39 | 4953087 Future Jim
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Thanks. How can we verify that was the big thing Breitbart was about to expose?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 15:58 | 4953112 TahoeBilly2012
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Sun, 07/13/2014 - 18:15 | 4953406 benb
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He made the announcement at a conservative media dinner about two weeks before he was murdered stating the date he was to release info and that it would bring down the Puppet Soetoro administration. He got wacked the night before the stated release date.The Holder law firm angle was later reported on the Alex Jones show.

There's probably a bunch of other reasons Breitbart was assassinated as well. Here's one link. There's a lot of other decent Youtube links on the right side of the page as well with other people's takes -

The point is the guy is just one in a lengthening line of American citizens being murdered to stifle dissent.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 20:51 | 4953934 insanelysane
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The hacker that was about to show how to hack a pacemaker was "found dead" in his 30s.  No explanation ever.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 21:40 | 4954099 eclectic syncretist
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These assholes distract us with bullshit like the offensiveness of a fish called a "jewfish".

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 06:27 | 4954232 jaxville
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 The Wall Street Journal, like any mainstain media organization; is run by the chosen. 

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:18 | 4952659 lordylord
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It is easy for these people to claim a divine right when they think the State is God.

Was also not surprised to see a "for the children" argument.  Ugh.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:22 | 4952680 CuttingEdge
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Fuck "peacefully" removed from power.

Roll those guillotines.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:52 | 4952790 Dick Buttkiss
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Guillotines will be fine at some point, but no need violence otherwise.  As I posted elsewhere a little while ago:

What the naysayers on ZH and many if not most libertarians don't understand is that "virtual and digital currencies can challenge the sovereignty of states":

That's right, Bitcoin and altcoins stand to be the most disruptive technology since the nation-state came of age in the 13th century, having not only signed its death warrant but that of the global banking cartel and thus banking as we know it.  And those who live for this glorious day, as any libertarian worthy of the name must, will therefore do well to understand what Bitcoin is, how it works, and why, in a matter of a few short years, it is going to empower humanity as never before:

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 15:09 | 4953017 CH1
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Yeah, but using Bitcoin doesn't make me sound like a hard-ass!


Sun, 07/13/2014 - 15:57 | 4953130 TahoeBilly2012
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Exactly, revolutions need blood, heros and heriones....let's do it old school!

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 16:16 | 4953179 espirit
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Glubb stated in "The Fate of Empires" that the final "Age of Decadence" has a few steps to be checked off yet.

Tick Tock Bitchez.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 17:14 | 4953246 Dick Buttkiss
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So be a dumb-ass in order to sound like a hard-ass.

Spoken like a lower primate.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 22:11 | 4957751 TheReplacement
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Suppose it is outlawed, death penalty and all.  Then suppose some agency comes along and figures out a way to monitor the internet 24/7 and track down anyone using unauthorized currencies.  This story was written 2,000 years ago or so.  It doesn't end well for bitcoiners or anyone else and that really is the logical conclusion.  Hell, even if they can't track you down, they can pay people who use bitcoin (let them live longer) if they just help catch people on the other end of the transactions.  If it is important they will find a way to get you.  Playing run and hide does not work and never has. 

Your passive-aggressivism is showing.  Undertanding that, I am not insulted.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 22:34 | 4954256 jaxville
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Too long and too slow.  Too much time for them to do too much damage and too much more human misery.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:58 | 4952800 Pairadimes
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Isn't moral nihilism wonderful? It's so...........liberal.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 17:37 | 4953339 NihilistZero
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Nihilism challenges the perspective that anything can have universal value.  What's right for you isn't right for someone else an cannot be made so.  I.E. I may find you pooping in your girlfriends mouth disgusting but it isn't inherently "wrong".

Nihilism has little to do with the power mad maniacs of TPTB.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 21:26 | 4954035 Cliff Claven Cheers
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Yes it is inherently wrong. Poop was never meant for a mouth, hence the exit location at the opposite end of the entrance. BTW shit is full of bacteria that can make you sick. Is common sense dead?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 22:01 | 4954177 NihilistZero
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No it isn't.  It's inherrently unhealthy, but that doesn't make it wrong.  We weren't meant to jump out of planes.  Does that make skydiving wrong?

This is where the bullshit rule of law fails to justify itself.  It's not about protecting rights.  It's about the legitimized use of force by one group against another.  Usually for the benefit of a seperate oligarchy that rules above all the others.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 22:20 | 4957777 TheReplacement
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Not all law.  Look up viking age Icelandic law and consider the times and superstitions.  Their way was actually a very good law to live under if you did not cause harm to others.  Harming others is inherently wrong.  Involving malice/intent makes it criminal.  It's very simple to understand.

So I kind of disagree with the entire agrument.  It isn't about nihilism at all and, honestly, nihilism is a bs concept.  The problem with our rule of law is that it is complicated and requires a third party to interpret, enforce, and, strangely, create.  It is about who owns the law.  Then the people did.  Today the lawyers, police, and government own it. 

They are causing harm to us.  A lot of it is intentional.  That makes it criminal.  Are we to play hide and seek with the devil by using bitcoin or do we uphold the law as we all agree it should be?  If not us, who?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 01:47 | 4954617 Duffy Duck
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"There are no moral phenomena at all, only a moral interpretation of phenomena"  [Nietzsche]

It's moral universalism that makes no coherent sense.

Ah, but you'll say - "murder" is wrong - across space and time


When is it murder?  There's always an interpretation...

'It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.' [Voltaire]


Moral universalism simply declares deviation from a norm immoral.  It at no time "proves" immorality per se - merely enforces its interpretation of "the moral."



Mon, 07/14/2014 - 01:53 | 4954622 All Risk No Reward
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Convincing people that a square is a circle isn't profitable, but cvonvincing people that neurotaoxic waste is good for their teeth with not good evidence to support it, well, now that's turning a multi-billion dollar cost center to a billion dollar profit center.

What's another name for a Muppet?  Debt Money Tyrant neurotxoic waste filter!  No wonder they think we are way down on the evolutionary scale and work killing off slowly!


CDC says fluoride has no evidence of benefit for infants

Link to webpage with link to actual CDC response:

Impact of fluoride on neurological development in children (correlated with brain damage)

The bottom line is the establishment has the obligation to prove this chit is not toxic and that its benefits outweigh the risks...  and if you are so naive as to think they can, ask you doctor or your dentist...  I did and a retired doctor lied to me and my dentist (whom I really like, BTW) simply avoids the topic with me.

So and so [Debt Money Tyrant financed] organization says it is so doesn't make it so...  and how can they know if they can't produce the research?

Any parrot can repeat what someone told them in Rockefeller Medicine school.  I don't care what anyone can repeat, I care about what they can PROVE!

BTW, it is easy to dupe the entire medical establishment...  The Wall Street Journal claims one rogue guy duped the entire establishment for half a century on the idea that saturated fats were unhealthy...

The Questionable Link Between Saturated Fat and Heart Disease
Are butter, cheese and steak really bad for you? The dubious science behind the anti-fat crusade

...and, yeah, the establishment ultimately blames anyone who was suckered by the cellular inflammation (and Big Pharma, Big Insurance and Big Medical profit) promoting deception...

Wake up to your personal responsibility, people!


h/t SuperRay

“…in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”

—Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X[1]

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:16 | 4952643 El Oregonian
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Between the twits in the media, and the twats running the White house. I'd pretty much twust none of these tywants...-Elmer Fudd (y)

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 14:07 | 4952816 SuperRay
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This seems like a good spot for the big lie:


“…in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”

—Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X[1]


"Expert liars" - in other words, all the media...

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:30 | 4952715 Eyeroller
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I'm 'paying the government' because I am terrified of what would happen to me if I refused to pay taxes.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 15:10 | 4953022 CH1
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That's the only reason anyone pays, and it's properly called terrorism.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 22:33 | 4957808 TheReplacement
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I smell a killer bumpersticker.


Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:56 | 4952594 knukles
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"The press is the fourth branch of government."
Not exact quote, but John Kerry stated something to that exact effect at a Rotary luncheon many years ago in a Boston suburb.
I'm not gonna take the time to look it up, but oh yeah, no shit

Propaganda by any other name

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:31 | 4952717 Future Jim
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The media play a central and critical role in causing what is wrong with the people.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 02:00 | 4954628 All Risk No Reward
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Actually, the private supranational debt money / banking cartel sits perched above the nation states.

All the entities they finance ultimately report to them...  the borrower is SERVANT to the private supranation debt money / banking cartel lenders.

The government, the media, the mega banks, the mega corporations, the mega schooling / research institutions, the mega religions... anythiing big and powerful is in one of three states:

1. Subject to the supranational Debt Money Tyrants.

2. Under attack to become subject to the Debt Money Tyrants.

3. On a list to be attacked to become subject to the Debt Money Tyrants.

Only a small percentage on ZH understand this Rosetta Stone level truth.

Not one in 10,000 fully comprehend this set up in society.


The Money Power Seeks to Create a World System of Financial Control in Private Hands Able to Dominate Every Nation on Earth

In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank, in the hands of men like Montagu Norman of the Bank of England, Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, Charles Rist of the Bank of France, and Hjalmar Schacht of the Reichsbank, sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.
~Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope (Bill Clinton mentor, CFR historian)

Debt Money Tyranny

Poverty - Debt is not a Choice

How to be a Crook

Renaissance 2.0 - Financial Empire

Debunking Money - The Way the World Really Works


The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline | James Perloff


Don't forget to make sure you have a robust intellectual self-defense mechanism in this empire of lies...

The Trivium Method - Gene Odening (entire) - what you should have been taught in school but weren't

Trivium Resources -

Trivium Binder

The Lost (Hidden!) Tools of Learning

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 09:44 | 4955162 MontgomeryScott
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Kudos for linking Richard Andrew Grove's website. I found him by listening to his interview with Jack Blood.

8th Estate.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:31 | 4952718 Eyeroller
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The IRS is the fourth branch of government.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 17:31 | 4953321 tvdog
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Indeed, the IRS is a law unto itself. It already essentially told Congress to piss off. Now it is under court orders from 2 different judges to explain under oath where the "missing" Lerner emails went (emails that the IRS was legally required to retain). It would be true to form if the IRS simply told those judges to piss off too.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 20:53 | 4953940 insanelysane
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I thought all Americans were equal and afforded equal protection under the laws but the progressive tax where one American pays a different penalty under the law is somehow Constitutional.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 02:03 | 4954629 All Risk No Reward
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Suckah!  Seriously, we live in the Empire of Lies and most people rather like it that way given the reaction I observe when I tell people the truth about Debt Money Tyranny and the criminals who run it.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:17 | 4952664 TVP
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Sure, they are definitely attempting to start an armed conflict/ civil war.


Only one minor problem with that plan.  When a third of the country has become morbidly obese (that means fat as fuck, if you didn't know), a third has been out of work for 12+ months, and the other third spend 60 hours a week being someone's bitch in order to survive.  


^ Does this look like the demographics of a population ready to jump up and engage in armed conflict?


It's all a moot point anyway, because the revolution taking place will be an internal and intellectual one, not an external and violent one.   

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:40 | 4952740 Lore
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Re: "the revolution taking place will be an internal and intellectual one, not an external and violent one."

You forgot to put "/sarc" at the end of that statement. Without it, people might think you're serious and write you off as incredibly naive.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 17:32 | 4953327 tvdog
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What happens when the people working 60+ hours still can't make enough to live on?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:24 | 4952694 RafterManFMJ
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Dat Zimmerman yo!

The MSM Railroaded the man, faked / transposed 911 phone calls... Didn't show pictures showing obvious damage to his head ... Always showed po po Trabeyon's 4th grade photo ... Ignored obvious problems with the timeline / storyline from his girlfriend...

And his ... Parents? His sire and dam, perhaps, hit the Nigger lottery with large lawsuit settlements.

Who paid them? Why, you did! See, you continue to support - voluntarily, I might add - the MSM, the papers, the sporting events where a Glove of Blue rams up your daughters ass. You must like it, I'm assuming, else why would you give your money and your time?

Maybe your just a sad combination of a coward, and a moron. A Moward? Coron?

Say, do you know who Channon Christian and Chris Newsom were? If not, why not? Discuss.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 19:48 | 4953769 Donutwarrior
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I do.  One of the sickest stories I ever heard.  The perpretrators should be tortured very slowly to death for what they did.  Unbelievable.  I wish you never mentioned it.  It is so depraved it gives me the chills.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 14:21 | 4952867 Coletrane
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anyone who refuses to see the war that is being waged right now, deserves everything they get

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:21 | 4952675 putaipan
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what? and no one saw a problem coming when they legalized propaganda a couple of years ago?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 20:42 | 4953907 maskone909
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+1 was thinking the same thing. Cant believe this shit is legal. Bad dream please wake me up

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:50 | 4952567 yogibear
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Claim the US kids all have ADD so drug them all up. Easier to control and brainwash.  

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:04 | 4952624 freewolf7
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If .gov and the media is a dysfunctional marriage, I'm killing my parents.

It's the only way to be sure.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:13 | 4952649 blackbeardz
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I hear ya,

am startn to feel alot like Lizzie Borden

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:54 | 4952793 Miffed Microbio...
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A parents job is to raise a child to learn responsibility and think independently so they will be able to function well without their parents at some point, not to be a perpetual child. Of course this means you will give up the reins of control at some point. To psychopathic dictators, this is unacceptable but they are smart enough not to say so. Too bad so many can be fooled and have been so well indoctrinated by the nanny state to know anything different.


Sun, 07/13/2014 - 20:23 | 4953845 nmewn
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It really is that simple and hardly no one see's it.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:56 | 4952597 I am Jobe
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As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.



Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:52 | 4952783 Future Jim
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What a convenient quote. I wish it were real, but tyrants rarely incriminate themselves so clearly.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:28 | 4952712 booboo
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Sooo, my dads tyrant and my moms a two bit whore??

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:46 | 4952556 Trucker Glock
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"These people must be peacefully removed from all positions of power as soon as possible."

Peacefully removed? What dat mean?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:21 | 4952676 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Peacefully removed? What dat mean?

I'm almost positive that its meaning is strictly limited to: desecration of corpses is not considered cool.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:23 | 4952691 CuttingEdge
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Is necrophilia permitted though?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:27 | 4952703 knukles
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Within limits.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 14:32 | 4952907 Winston Churchill
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Its OK until some rotten cunt splits on you.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 20:46 | 4953926 knukles
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WINSTON! + Billion
That is just about as warped shit as imaginable.
You belong here.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:28 | 4952706 NidStyles
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agent provocateur

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:38 | 4952745 knukles
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nice... a beautiful term of art I've not heard in a long time...

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:16 | 4952661 TheMeatTrapper
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My only plan is to starve the monkeys. Don't buy any of their shit. Spend as little as possible. I don't buy newspapers, I don't have cable TV. I trap my familys meat and I grow as much of our vegetables and greens as I can. 

I stay healthy and exercise. I use vinegar and water instead of buying shit. I eat as little processed food as possible. I try to fix and repair instead of throwing away. 

I buy used trucks, not new. I do as much business as possible on a barter basis. 

Of course, the fat assed neighbors next door more than make up for me. 

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:44 | 4952767 noless
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I agree with you, but here's the thing, they print money.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 16:16 | 4953180 Fred C Dobbs
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Any recomendations on used trucks?  Do you know what year computers were put in cars/trucks to surveille us?  How old do you have to go to escape that?  Off topic but I want to know and you have some experience.  Thanks.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 02:55 | 4954658 ImGumbydmmt
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but my recommendation is a pre 1974 model and do an expensive front disc brake conversion if not disc already.

the real computers which monitor everything didn't come into vehicles until OBDII in 1996, So I tried to get by with a 1989 4x4 but the early EFI and such was just a decaying sea of wires that became impossible to diagnose and more expensive than the entire vechicle to replace.

So I am back to the pre EFI, Pre EGR, Pre Catylyic convertor vechicles for the simplicity, hence pre 1974.

You can swap out the "points and condensor" for HEI if you  like, but keep spares.

Stay with the big 3 Dodge, Ford, GM,

I prefer the GMs myself, but Ford is more common.

A lot of guys like the old Dodges becasue back in the 1970s Dodge was the milspec supplier of pick ups in the M880 platform. Ebay always has a ton of M880 stuff you can find.

but you'll need it, everything form mirrors, to door handles and hinges seems to rattle off the dodge IMHO

With any of these, engine and transmission parts will never run out, as they are still hotrodded. buy a Jeggs catalog.

good luck

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 15:12 | 4953031 Ganja Jane
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Common Law Grand Juries; we the people are the fourth branch of government. We are the supreme. 

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 15:36 | 4953081 Ghostbusters
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Those who act like children will be treated as such.  Statism is the new religion that pays homage to those that came before it. The beasts leaves its mark.  Obellisks, pyramids, three-part flags, eagles, lions, sun symbols and astrotheological worship unite the upper echelons of secrety society while their mass media, immoral idol worship, and corporte hierarchy unite the underlings.  Democracy, freedom, peace, security, rule of law, and the like only demonstrate the perversion of language as perpetrated by the powers that be.  It predates English by leaps and bounds.  Irony, fear, euphemism, and paradox confound the masses as the puppet masters carefully shape civilization to their desires.  It is truly an abomination which should come as no surpirse in the Obama nation, where less is known about the world's most public figure than what is necessary to get a job at Dunkin Donuts.  Exposing the web of lies is our role and uniting humanity in truth is our goal.  Discrediting the official story is our weapon as 911, Sandy Hook, Pear Harbor, and the Gulf of Tonkin amongst many others stand out as internationally significant events that have swayed public opinion in favor of political action.  If they are wearing a suit, they are trying to sell you something.  The truth doesn't need a costume, it simply needs attention.  If we give our attention to the MSM then we deserve what we get.  If we believe what we are/were told then we are children.  We must vote with our money, time, and attention.  Starve the beast.  

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 22:21 | 4954226 whoisonfirst
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       “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?”

? Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:36 | 4952498 remain calm
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Media will you then please burp me and wipe my ass

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:59 | 4952599 Future Jim
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It is not the media's job to wipe your ass.

Wiping your ass is the job of the TSA (Toilet Safety Administration)

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:02 | 4952615 Greenskeeper_Carl
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one of my favorite episodes ever. anyone who hasnt seen it should watch it, as it skewers the TSA and our nanny police state. see also, manbearpig

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 14:42 | 4952940 Ballin D
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The full episode is online and free (legal too, if you care)

season 16 episode 1


Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:34 | 4952499 TalkToLind
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It's for the chillrens, bitchez!

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:49 | 4952565 Kaiser Sousa
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that was funny...
need the laughs...
shit is fucking depressing...

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:44 | 4952764 mofreedom
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I'll take any opportunity to belt my kids in the car.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:57 | 4952601 I am Jobe
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As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.



Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:03 | 4952608 Tsunami Wave
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Ah, yes.  Haven't we heard of this argument many times before?


The people that love saying that are ones of course who have a big agenda, and something to lose not getting it.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:36 | 4952505 bitterwolf
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Big deal. What nations ruling elite did not have a propaganda organ,,,we just have a really big organ.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:03 | 4952621 Greenskeeper_Carl
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exactly. WE'RE NUMBER 1!!!!

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:37 | 4952511 oklaboy
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And what would happen if they didreport the truth?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:42 | 4952541 WTFx10
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A revolution or civil war within a month. Once you find out you've been getting fucked in the ass since you came out of your mothers crack. Its enough to piss you off?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:05 | 4952585 The Most Intere...
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We wish! LOL you have way more faith in the average US citizen than I do. Run the truth side-by-side with the Kardashians, the WWE, and the latest Miley Cirus video and the truth would be the tree falling in a forest with no one around to hear or see it fall.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:34 | 4952727 Eyeroller
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We'll never know, because that will never happen.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:37 | 4952512 i_call_you_my_base
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Representative government without the truth isn't. Fuck you Shanker.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:48 | 4952562 Pee Wee
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Easy, your talking to a fag out shilling for other fags - truth to a homosexual doesn't exist.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:37 | 4952514 alexcojones
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The American Media is the Enemy of The American People.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:41 | 4952536 unplugged
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plus the whole Fed Govt minus the US Military (at least most of the military).

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:16 | 4952662 rubiconsolutions
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"plus the whole Fed Govt minus the US Military (at least most of the military)."

Ah, the 'ol "military exceptionalism" ploy. The military has done a brilliant job or marketing itself as different, separate, unique and morally superior to the rest of government. It isn't. If you're going to get rid of government - and I certainly would - then get rid of the military. I doubt that the middle east would be in such a state if it weren't for military and economic intervention in that part of the world. 

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:39 | 4952749 Bioscale
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Oh, those nice and polite USA soldiers killing terrorists in Iraq and Afganistan. The world needs more of them!

Are you unplugged or what?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:46 | 4952775 mofreedom
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Hitler loved musloids and hated smokers...nuff said...nuke them all now then no war ever again.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 14:27 | 4952885 edotabin
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Unfortunately, it is people who are their own worst enemy. Why else would they put up with this shit?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:40 | 4952528 unplugged
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Doesn't really matter what MSM says anymore - they are a dying breed - hardly anyone pays attention to them now.  Most who are 30 and younger don't read newspapers, watch TV news, read the news magazines, etc.  If they do seek out news, its from other forms.  Die you MSM bastards.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 04:26 | 4954707 conscious being
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They are working on force feeding thru new channels like facebook, data mining, subliminals, etc.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:41 | 4952533 TooBearish
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Seriously this guys name is SHANKER... like that annoying zit underneither ur nose...what a Shanker! HA!

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:42 | 4952540 unplugged
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and it rhymes with wanker

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:41 | 4952535 Normalcy Bias
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He also is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Wow, that's a real shocker.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:44 | 4952546 WTFx10
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Does he belong to the tribe?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:54 | 4952582 Normalcy Bias
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Magic 8-Ball says: "Signs point to yes."

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:44 | 4952542 Pee Wee
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And decide they do.

Everything the ass-packing faggots of America want you to swallow is found in the media.  Everything else - is not.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:44 | 4952547 souljaboy
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It's pretty simple, isn't it? They just like knowing important things that the other kids in the class don't (but should) know. They're the apple-polishing teacher's pets who know about the unannounced field trip , but keep the secret to themselves because the teacher told them not to tell.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:44 | 4952548 MrButtoMcFarty
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If not peacefully....

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:45 | 4952550 Beowulf55
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maybe they can wipe my ass after I get off the crapper.........they can save on news print and use their tongue.  Remember, it is for the children.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:45 | 4952551 stant
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What are the latest ratings?

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:04 | 4952627 The Most Intere...
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If Hitler had Duck Dynasty, the Kardashians and Judge Judy to compete with, his message would have never reached the masses.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 18:28 | 4952634 Money Squid
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What if Hitler had one of those duck dynasty beards, a giant Kardahsian ass and an annoying voice like Judy ? That is a pretty powerful combination.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:45 | 4952554 Urban Redneck
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Perhaps if the government hadn't (successfully) spent the better part of the last century trying to breed degenerates with diminished mental capacity- I might find their condescension more unfounded, instead of an unfortunate truth. Their chosen response to that sad state of affairs is however, immoral, illegal and unwise over the long term.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:49 | 4952566 alexcojones
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   "Remember Pat Tillman, the brave soldier, great athlete and hero?  The (mainstream American)  press told us he was killed by the Taliban in Afghanistan.  Then the rumors came out that it was “friendly fire.”  Now we know the truth or do we?  There is a movie about Tillman coming out.  How much will it tell?  Tillman, not just an athlete but a very bright guy, had picked up on the fact that Afghanistan was a total scam and was talking about it.  The administration ordered Tillman’s murder.  Pat Tillman was executed.  Enough high ranking members of the Bush administration and the military were involved in the cover up that, in any real democracy, not only jails would be filling but the execution dock as well.  Murder is a capitol crime.  Those involved in Tillman’s murder should be executed, no matter who they are.  We are talking about every conspirator and members of the press who helped “spin” the tale.

     "Anybody know who Dr. David Kelly was?  American newspapers said he killed himself because he was publicly attacked by Prime Minister Tony Blair who was upset because one of the world’s best known weapons scientists had gone to the press saying that Blair was a traitor for pushing the illegal invasion of Iraq.  Kelly knew Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and was aware that Blair was lying to the public.

   "Dr. David Kelly was murdered.  This was a government “hit.”  The proof of the crime is beyond question.  Now, years later, the British press is demanding  arrests.  If they get those responsible, chances are many will be the most powerful leaders of the last Administration.  General Colin Powell went before the United Nations with a pack of humiliating lies, shaming himself and the United States. . . .  If you are waiting for a Sunday Morning talk show to have Powell on and ask him about this, you will die of old age first. "

Presstitutes - A Lower Life Form than Prostitutes.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:11 | 4952642 Seasmoke
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on't walk the plank like I did
You will be dispensed with
When you've become
Up on harrowdown hill
Near where you used to go to school
This where I, this where I am lying down
Did I fall or was I pushed
Then wheres the blood?

But I'm coming home, I'm coming home
To make it all right
So dry your eyes

We think the same things at the same time
We just can't do anything about it.
We think the same things at the same time
We just can't do anything about it.

So don't ask me ask the ministry
So don't ask me ask the ministry

We think the same things at the same time
There are so many of us
Oh you can't count
We think the same things at the same time
There are so many of us
Oh you can't count

Can you see me when I'm running 
Can you see me when I'm running 
Away from there 
Away from there 
I can't take the pressure
No one cares if you live or die
They just want me gone
They want me gone

But I'm coming home, I'm coming home
To make it all right
So dry your eyes

We think the same things at the same time
We just can't do anything about it
We think the same things at the same time
There are too many of us so you can't
There are too many of us so you can't count!

It was walking to the back down Harrowdown Hill
It was walking to the back down Harrowdown Hill
It was a slippery slippery slippery slope
It was a slippery slippery slippery slope

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:51 | 4952572 windcatcher
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Treasonous “open border” secret trade agreements of the North American Union is nothing new, the plan has been on the books, funded and underway for the last 13 years. The target of “open border” illegal immigration is to destroy our American Sovereignty and American Independence with government and NGO funded and orchestrated attacks on our borders with the use of illegal immigrants. The second objective is to create civil unrest and chaos which the criminals in Washington specialize in.


I know most Americans cannot believe that the attack on 9/11/01 was an “inside Job” that orchestrated us into debt with “terrorist wars” for the last 13 years. They cannot believe that our Representative Republic, constitutional democracy (government of, for and by the People) has been purposely destroyed and replaced with a totalitarian fascist police state.


Americans cannot believe that our Free Enterprise System of capitalism (free from corporate monopoly) and “Fair Trade” has been destroyed by “Free Market” monopoly corporatism and “Free Trade” (multinational corporate monopolies are free to steal what ever they want, from whom ever they want, and do it legally).


Americans cannot believe that Washington would purposelessly bankrupt the USA. Debt is Wealth, they have been brainwashed to believe, --as we go underwater.


Mission Accomplished!!!! Our democracy is gone, our Free Enterprise System of capitalism is gone. We are bankrupt! The grand ole United States of America, like Greece, Portugal and others is going into receivership of the BIS and the IMF (same criminal banksters). At that point we are no longer an independent and sovereign nation. The illegal immigration attack coincides with the UN Agenda 21st. Century and the North American Union attacks sponsored by the same criminal banksters.




Mon, 07/14/2014 - 04:31 | 4954710 conscious being
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Step one for all these problems is to get rid of the Fed. 

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:51 | 4952573 I am Jobe
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The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society.


Edward Bernays




All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.

Adolf Hitler

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:53 | 4952579 yogibear
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Control the media and you control the population.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:57 | 4952600 The Most Intere...
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Uncle Si from Duck Dynasty has more control over the masses than MSM, Obama and Congress combined.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:34 | 4952730 NidStyles
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Uncle Si is on TV, which is the medium that the MSM controls right? Think about it for a few days and you might start to understand.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 17:23 | 4953304 The Most Intere...
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So under your logic if you controlled the media and ran back to back 24 hour per day specials on how the public is being screwed by the govt fed bankers etc etc the muppets would rise up and do something. My belief is that you are vastly over estimating your fellow citizens. If you published the true titles of your programs next to nobody would even turn the tv on. If you lied and said there was going to be an episode of Duck Dynasty you would get like 30 million viewers for the first 15 seconds, long enough for people to realize they had no interest in your offering. Sorry to be the one to break it to you.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 19:42 | 4953753 Real Estate Geek
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So under your logic if you controlled the media and ran back to back 24 hour per day specials on how the public is being screwed by the govt fed bankers etc etc the muppets would rise up and do something.


That happened at least once in my lifetime.  Nixon's presidency was taken down in large part by a free press that wouldn't let the story die.  They were professional newsmen who took their jobs seriously.  And all bets were off once they smelled blood.  Back-to-back specials?  No, not 24/7.  But every single edition of the big newspapers and every episode of network news--all three channels, mind you--led with the story for months on end.  It was relentless.

MSM's effectiveness in threatening TPTB is one reason why the MSM evolved into what it is today.  Actually, less evolution than intelligent design.  All IMO, of course.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 22:02 | 4954179 The Most Intere...
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I'm not defending what Nixon did, but Nixon was taken down by a far left wing radical media. Had he been a radical Socialist Democrat it would have never been covered.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 03:09 | 4954666 Serenity Now
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It's almost unbelievable that someone would down arrow your comment in light of what the media has covered up for the current administration.  The left is simply not interested in truth.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 08:14 | 4954895 NidStyles
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Logic has no ownership, nor is it partisan you hack.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:59 | 4952607 I am Jobe
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Yeap Sheeples cannot get enough crap of entertainment . 

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:11 | 4952641 BustainMovealota
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No , its control the information and you control the population.  Media is certainly a big part, but there's more information control than you consciously realize.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:36 | 4952735 NidStyles
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TV is information control.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 12:56 | 4952595 Reaper
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They're drowning in their own excrement of lies.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:00 | 4952609 nmewn
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"These people must be peacefully removed from all positions of power as soon as possible."

You're kidding right?

David Gregory holds up "an illegal" (in DC) 30 round magagzine on national TV for all the world to see and is never prosecuted...while some guy with a misfired shotgun shell, a leather holster, one brass casing and a fucking box of lead is prosecuted by the very same "powers that be"?

This is not a marriage, not even close, they are not separate entities, they are one and the fucking same & there will never be a peaceful solution for this.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:06 | 4952630 Money Squid
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I am lost with out Oprah

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 14:05 | 4952814 dogbreath
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Oprah stole my mothers brain

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 14:13 | 4952837 Future Jim
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Without Oprah ... who would pick the next president ...

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:12 | 4952645 Ungaro
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I've read some rather childish responses here, so no wonder TPTB considers us children. The nature of intelligence is such that some of it must be kept secret. I think most of you will agree. Then someone in government must decide what is to be be classified. However, they must do this with responsibility and accountability: the people's right to know is paramount, unless public disclosure would harm the interest of the people. I don't see what the media has to do with this; they just have to report what is going on or lose their franchise of credibility, which is on shaky ground ever since they got in bed with the government. The fourth estate, my ass.

The difference between communist dictatorship and the USA today? Under Stalin, the government's control of the media was out in the open.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:41 | 4952754 NidStyles
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Look another fascist apologist....

I don't agree and any state that needs secrets is a state that has obviously gotten out of control.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 15:01 | 4952996 Emergency Ward
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Mommy, bring me my pacifier and don't tell me about that whistle-blower who got tortured or the drone-bombing of those Pakistani children.  I don't want to know.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:15 | 4952656 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Thum Chancre said:

The relationship between the government and the media is like a marriage; it is a dysfunctional marriage to be sure, but we stay together for the kids.

If ever there was a case deserving the intervention Children's Protective Services...

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:15 | 4952658 Orwell was right
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If my blog namesake were alive today, even he would be surprised at how bad things have gotten. 

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:18 | 4952669 alexcojones
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Gee Jobe:

How could a guy down vote you for an Edward Bernays quote AND an Adolf Hitler quote?

AH learned a lot from EB

And so could we.




Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:21 | 4952677 Solar
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Wonder when the purge will start?  Once feeling secure in their power grab, despots typically kill those who helped them take over.  Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, PolPot, Castro, Mao - to name the big ones.  If you are able to help them take over, you are able to cause trouble when the new "utopia" doesn't meet your expectations.  And a despot can't tolerate that now can they?  Thinking the MSM are high on the purge list, which is a silver lining (and might be fun to watch).  A couple MSM recently raised issues about B.O.'s policies and war mongering and they promptly lost their jobs.  Tick tock tick tock...



Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:22 | 4952681 bugs_
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viewership is down, readership is down, and poll after poll shows confidence in the media is so low that if it were a for-profit business they would have to liquidate themselves.  realizing this media has sought out sponsors so that they may continue.

be careful who you select for a sponsor!

anyhow this elitism is a last gasp response - they are dieing and in denial about it.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:22 | 4952683 bbq on whitehou...
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As more people become aware of being controled every year. This will add up over time. Thats the clock, and its running out for the powers that wish control.
They are also teaching a new generation that control is more important then anything else. That without it you would have Africa or worse; all lies of course but will the young see through it?

A tight fist holds little water.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:23 | 4952693 virgilcaine
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But Melo signed with the Knick as Lebron with Cleveland! ...this is all that matters according to your Msm.

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:26 | 4952702 goldhedge
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"Born in the USSA"

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:28 | 4952705 kurt
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Its a Dicktatorshit

For All Intestive Pervertsez

Sun, 07/13/2014 - 13:42 | 4952746 Circle of DNA
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know  a bunch of so called anarchists-activists-leftists who're often quoting NY Times and The Guardian as the only sources of truth...In the west, as long as you support LGBT, child molesting and you are anti-Putin, then you're a freedom fighter, freedom thinker and everything the word *cool* supposed to be.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!