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Picturing The March Of Tyranny
Well-known libertarian cartoonist Ben Garrison has previously summarized the state of the States perfectly in this image. As he describes it - the cartoon "shows how the banking and corporate masters (crony capitalist fascists) control both major parties behind the scenes. They keep us distracted with left vs. right while giving us the illusion that voting for one of the other parties will solve things. It won't." It appears his 'prophecy' has grown more and more the reality in the past years...
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next time i won't vote at all
Welcome to the club!
YOU AINT in Du Club!!!!......heheheheheh
Forward!
"Vote to defeat the club with, by and for club members!"
"The people who vote decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything"
- Joseph Stalin
Fucking brilliant cartoon!
"Unfortunately you've grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that's at the root of all of our problems. Some of these same voices do their best to gum up the works. They'll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave and creative and unique experiment in self rule is somehow just a sham with which we can't be trusted." - Firecracker Popsicle
we need a new category in the voting booth - NEITHER!
So Left leg, Right leg, and Middle leg?
The middle leg is michelle's cock.
http://barackovomit.wordpress.com/2012/05/09/a-bulging-crotch-the-michel...
I bet people in your immediate family have been sterilized. You seem to be a good candidtate for sterilization yourself.
Awwww...You do not like the fact that the President's wife is another man? You must be jealous that you cannot parade your boyfriend around like Barry does.
Obama sucks...PENIS. Yes he wants to snuggle up to Michael every night.
WE do not need a real Government. We need to divest ourselves of this obamanation and have no Government at all. (My tax dollars are being used to support Obama's homosexual lifestyle. Fuck that noise!!!)
Your a real moron. You spend way too much time using the word penis.
lol "your" v "you're"
Imbecile.
You spend way too much time sucking on your own as you are a spineless autofellator.
We need no Government.
I couldn't give a flying fuck about Obama's sexuality... and no, I doubt Michelle is a man, though she is quite mannish.
McCain is heterosexual... would we have been any better under that fascist's rule? No.
Hell no. McCain promised to continue the war in Iraq and to stay the course.
Obama lied to get the antiwar vote.
The point is that the morals have declined to that level. Without morality there is no hope, Big Jim.
They made that all but impossible after 2000.
I used to go to the polls and cast an empty ballot much to the non-amusement of the "poll judges" there. I figured that that made my vote really "count,” as I showed and “voted” for those I had trust and faith in. I would get my ballot, and walk over directly to the box and deposit it. They would almost always try to intercept me and then stand in bewilderment as I walked out.
After 2000 they put those machines in that allowed the "judges" to handle your now not anonymous ballot as they fed it into a "validation" machined on top of the box.
Well, in 2004 a chained-immigrant descendant that had never missed a meal accosted me for trying to feed my non-punched ballot into the “validation” machine. She was very hostile and grew more so when I explained that smearing my shit on the ballot would be more representative of what I thought.
She accused me of some kind of crime and when I stood my ground a more sensible white "judge" came over and showed the cow how to pass it thru the machine.
I haven't gone near a poll since. Don't even have a clue where my "polling place" is at this new place. Neighbor tried to tell me a while back, and the sheeple got an undesired education on the criminality of voting, participation, in a system that is criminal. LOL
this sort of statist platitude would seem to hinge on "self rule" being what we have, does it not?
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That’s interesting, because the people who actually began this “brave and creative and unique experiment in self-rule” were kind of over-the-top anxious about protecting that experiment from tyranny lurking just around the corner. For example:
John Adams:
James Madison, on militarism leading to tyranny:
George Washington, on tyranny as the result of any erosion of the constitutional separation of powers:
Madison again, warning about executives who “can’t wait” for Congress to make laws:
Patrick Henry:
Patrick Henry again:
For good measure, how about a quote from Frederick Douglass, who knew from experience what happens when people turn a blind eye to tyranny like the kind that existed in the antebellum South:
you must kill the right people, and enough of them, to take charge of counting the votes.
---mao tse-tung.
There is some sanity to that because voting gives the 2 parties power. They can say x number of people voted for us therefore we have a mandate. Voting only mattered when red team or blue team differed. Big Politics is just professional wrestling for policy wonks. Not voting is the way to go. On election day just vote on the questions and not for any politician.
voting only encourages them
They can pretty much say anything they want, if we vote or not. They already have the power and voting is only to allow us a sense of a voice.
Everything is about manipulation and pacification now. Yes it will precipitate some radicalism, but as with past totalitarian takeovers, it is a necessary part of the assimilation process. Think of it like a nuclear centrifuge, spinning faster and faster, separating the "heaver" elements.
Same as its ever been.
Assimilate or separate and be eliminated.
"Voting only mattered when red team or blue team differed."
Exactly.
if voting actually changed anything, they'd make it illegal
Mark twain
Greenskeeper - Twain reminds us things do run in cycles. With the advent of speedy railroads and the telegraph the wealthiest and politicians take advantage first and with rapid concentrated wealth comes power.
"The Era of Mean" was a good book I read about the railroad tycoon era.
How did it matter to one who wished to be free from either group's beliefs.
Would a Christian enjoy a choice between living under Islamic or Hindu beliefs? Or an atheist enjoy living under a choice of any theocratic belief systems?
Why do most people have to force everyone else live according TO WHAT THEY THEMSELVES BELIEVE even though the others may not share the same beliefs?
Why are you describing "democracy" to me instead of a republic? ;-)
I'm for freedom, not differently named forms of enslavement.
Well so am I.
So here we sit, with fully half the population dependent/enslaved to government for something, 80% of corporations dependent/enslaved to government for everything and us (the forty nine percent) saying WTF just happened.
Its about the right time isn't it?
I guess we couldn't keep it.
Republic, that is....
Ben was prescient, apparently not, not this time anyways ;-)
"Big Politics is just professional wrestling for policy wonks."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe
In professional wrestling, kayfabe is the portrayal of staged events within the industry as "real" or "true," specifically the portrayal of competition, rivalries, and relationships between participants as being genuine and not of a staged or pre-determined nature. Kayfabe has also evolved to become a code word of sorts for maintaining this "reality" within the realm of the general public. Kayfabe was long held as a closely guarded secret within the professional wrestling industry; however, with the advent of the Internet, it has evolved into an open secret in the industry that is generally only adhered to during shows.
http://www.edge.org/response-detail/11783
Kayfabe By Eric R. Weinstein
... Evolutionary biologists ... emphasized that it is deception rather than information that often plays the decisive role in systems of selective pressures. ...
Old news- I've long ago held that pro wrestling is the only honest sport left in these disunited states. Moreover, Werner Heisenberg came across this years ago, and i'm paraphrasing: once you recognize it's fakery, you can consider that fakery half-removed.
Yes, that is old news.
The March of Tyranny began more as a crawl, before it became a walk, while then it became a sprint towards taking a flying leap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IJeemTQ7Vk
Century of Enslavement:
The History of The Federal Reserve
That hour and a half documentary starts off with the deliberate lying by omission about "money." The most important social facts are not merely that the monetary system is based on enforced frauds, but also, for generation after generation, the vast majority of people have adapted to that by developing the attitude that they do not want to know! Therefore, in my view, that more that one learns about The March to Tyranny, the worst that gets, because there are no reasonable grounds whatsoever to doubt that runaway fascist plutocracy juggernaut building a fascist police state is going to slow down, much less stop, especially since the vast majority of people have been successfully conditioned to not want to think about the fundamental issues.
So far, while I have seen overwhelming evidence of things getting worse, faster, I have never yet seen anything which would indicate public responses to that which would not only make things continue to get worse, faster. The fake "democracy" is already practically dead. It is practically impossible to imagine any realistic circumstances under which there could be any genuine alternatives worth voting for. There are no feasible ways to imagine how there could be anything else than a fake democracy, in which the only choices were between bad versus worse.
None of the radical truths which would be necessary to begin to understand how and why The March to Tyranny has become completely dominate have any hope in hell of being presented to the general public, much less being voted for. None of the most important issues are on the public radar or public sonar. None of the established "choices" between Tweedledee vs Tweedledum ever talk about anything that matters, in any ways that put the actually important issues into proper perspective, because the established systems already have everything sufficient sewed up by the social facts that the overwhelming vast majority of people are already incompetent political idiots, that want to stay that way.
The ruling classes have been so successful, for so long, in controlling civilization through systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, that only a trivial percentage of the population is aware of the real nature of the problems, while an even smaller percentage of that small percentage has any reasonably coherent ways of even theoretically coping with those situations, rather then merely spouting the same old-fashioned impossible ideals, despite that those have never worked before, but rather tend to actually make the opposite happen in the real world, because the only significant opposition is controlled opposition. The established systems have carefully and craftily been set up so that there is nothing but the illusion of choices. However, learning about that does not give one any better choices, since not participating only continue to provide tacit support to the March to Tyranny.
According to all my political experiments, and court cases related to those political activities, that I have engaged in for thirty years, the March to Tyranny is more like a runaway train wreck, or a runaway steamroller, which is going to continue to get way worse, while there are no feasible ways to do anything else than wait and watch that happen, because there is no doubt that the vast majority of people have become such totally incompetent political idiots, that there is practically no way to do anything to stop the March to Tyranny from continuing to fleece those Zombie Sheeple to exhaustion, and then slaughter them.
My conclusion, after spending several decades learning as much as I could about the roles of money in the political processes, is that doing that was almost totally a waste of time, because the bottom line continues to actually be that about 99% of the people act like Zombie Sheeple, in such a way that there are absolutely no good reasons to doubt that the March to Tyranny will automatically continue to get more and more criminally insane than it already is! The only thing that Picturing The March to Tyranny does is demonstrate more clearly that there is nothing which could actually be done now that was not too little, too late, and too trivial to matter much.
im still going to vote, just so i can vote against all the fucking sales tax increases they are always putting on the ballot "for the children" where i live, but i do believe im done voting for these clowns. That just implies consent. Ron paul isnt running again, the rest of them can kiss my ass
Funny how there's never a high frequency trading tax on the ballot.
Ha no there isn't, but there is always setting on there about increasing some tax that's going to 'help the children' which means give teachers unions more money. We spend more than we've ever spent on schools, and they keep on getting worse and worse, and we are supposed to believe they are underfunded. Don't really know what a tax on HFTs would do. In general, I'm against anything that gives the govt more money. It might make me feel good to see these fuckers pay up, but the govt will undoubtably use the money for something I don't agree with either so it would kinda be counterproductive. Welfare handouts( corporate and the FSA) or some new war we will probably be embarking on somewhere in the near future. I'll pass on giving them more money.
or increasing capital gains to equivalent income tax rates, or a tax on financial transactions over a certain size generally... or saving hundreds of billions by the simple act of restoring the issuing power to the federl government so that it can, at very least, issue fiat which is debt-free at issuance...and not have to go through megabank middlemen to acquire new debt-fiat...
But you have to bear in mind, most of this country will happily vote for the presumptively awful GOP candidate, while even more will vote for the presumptively worse Hillary for no compelling reason at all.
So really, who are we trying to save?
Taxes are a legislative function, too important for riff-raff like us to decide, so outright omission is the preferred technique. Burying an important issue in a primary of an off year election is another. Nobody can say the prop was never floated to the public. Anther successful example of .guv hiding something in plain sight.
1790's we were free and there was near no Feral Government to speak of. Each Congressional Representative represented 50,000 people.
Today countless administratve agencies make their own laws, arrest you with masked, secret SWAT Gestapo.
Laws, regulations, taxes, codes, rules are countless.
We have not more representation, but ten times by population less. By Feral Government power growth we have even less. Something like 10,000 times less representation. Maybe factors less then that.
We are not free and are not effectivly represented.
"We are not free" was all you needed.
that's not rain
The only meaningful vote is the one made from the rooftops.
That's not the original image. This is:
http://i.imgur.com/iLgrDR9.jpg
"Vote for GOOD COP!"
"BAD COP is .... bad"
The only way we will ever beat them is by refusing to participate, and create our own system.
Conversation I had a week ago:
Girl: "You don't vote?! You have to vote. People died so you could vote and it is so important."
Me: "Some people died for my God given rights that are in the Bill of Rights, yes. But since then the government has systematically violated those rights and in the last 100 years all of the original God given rights stated as sacrosanct in the Bill of Rights have been violated. So the government is violating something that it itself admits is untouchable so it is illegitimate. When you vote, you say it is legitimate. So really you should not vote and that way tell them they are no longer legitimate."
Girl and entire table of people: *crickets*
But...Ya Gotta Vote!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAJCFfVAdUg&feature=kp
El Duce and a half coming to a town near you.
Interesting there is alot of impeachment and anti israel chatter throughout the msm lately. Im sure its just cynicism ;-p
Remember! God Himself hates those who hate Israel!
Considering the number of atheist Jews I know, I think that's pretty funny. Chutzpah!
Remember that the Bible says that ALL ISRAEL will be saved. (That includes the atheist Jews.) In the same passage it also declares that the Jews are ENEMIES.
Of course Jesus said "Love your enemies...Do good to those that persecute you for My Name's sake."
Judaism is a RACE...not necessarrily a Religion. The Jews are just ONE of the Twelve Tribes of Israel. They were called the Hebrew...the EBUR...EBUR meaning "FROM UR"..from where the Patriarch Abraham originated.
Well Abraham begot Issac. Issac begot Jacob. And Jacob's name was changed to ISRAEL. Well Israel had Twelve Sons, one whose name was Judah. The Jews are his offspring...his SEED...his FAMILY...his RACE.
where....pray tell... is there a lot of 'anti-Israel' chatter in the MSM?
I'm asking - I look at cnn and the times online sometime, but that's about all I can stand.
"It appears his 'prophecy' has grown more and more the reality in the past years..."
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say its not prophecy when your stating the obvious. The problem is how to get a power in place without left vs right dogma. Whether it GE/NBC or Fox News, its MSM. Each team has one job - create hate against your fellow Americans.
"The problem is how to get a power in place..." Decentralization may be the anwer, a gazillion little powers. With the internet it may be possible. After the fall of Rome, there was the Dark Ages, which, I am learning, were not so dark. There just will not be the Pax Americana policing the world as Rome had done. My hope is for no EMP war, knocking out our means of communication.
Yeah, how do we "register" the withdrawal of our consent to be governed? Does half or more of the voting age populace have to sit out a presidential election to register "no confidence, no consent" or do we have to write in "none of the above" or what?
False Right / Left Paradigm.
The funny thing is that this is exactly the excuse Obama apologists use to rationalize him as the same as Bush or all other preceding leaders. It is true but it IS worse each time. We allow these fuckers to get by with their corruption and lawlessness simply because their predecessors did, except it appears to get exponentially worse with each iteration. Their actions are no longer hidden or even debatable any longer. They don't care but still deny it even when caught red handed. I believe they are goading us, daring us to act, knowing anything like it will lead to our instant demise. Threats are no longer taken lightly, unless it is done overseas to our own people. Then of course you are entitled to a full trial in federal courts. The rest of us can look forward to indefinite detention...or worse.
hmmm....futures marching upward all night---shocking.
well, duh ... didn't you hear about all the bombing going on in the ME ? ! Geez ..... ;>)
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
Divide & Conquer is used because it works. It works because most people are fucking 'STOOPID/STYUPID'.
Remember: "Democracy is NOT for the weak, lazy, dumb, uninformed, scared, fragmented or disorganized. They got plenty or autocratic systems for those who fit that bill." -Kirk.
Quite the contrary, a DemoCrazy is custom designed for the weak, lazy, dumb, uniformed, scared, fragmented and disorganized.
For democracy to work properly, all they need to do is tell us what to think and who to vote for.
Cartoons such as this used to go over much better before the USS Limbaugh landed here.
Then you haven't been listening lately. Limbaugh still claims his conservative values yet is clearly distancing himself from the Republican party. Lots of people are as they no the shit bomb is going to blow. Republicans have so obviously sold their soul to remain in office that they will do nothing more than symbolic gestures against Obama. Scared shitless of being labeled haters or racists. If any of them had the slightest inclination towards smaller government, it is long lost to self interest. Any changes will come from outside the party, and maybe outside the whole political process.
Why would I listen to the head cheer leader of our previous administration. You know, that administration you didn't realize was fucking you in the ass until '08? And yet you still hang on for his "we're better than obama" diatribes.
Because AINT no way people like you could ever consciously changed your little Darwinian melodrama. You have to be led.
Listening to the sounds coming from democratic mouths makes it easy to accept what the republicans have to offer, as meager as it is. There are few apparent good choices. A slow and painful demise for all of us. There is a huge perception out there that only fools work. If this holds, it is but a matter of time before the system collapses, running out of other people's money.
The R s are dead meat at least since the time of Coolidge, and they're starting to stink pretty bad.
I just vote aginst all incumbenst, if I vote at all.
I don't waste my time nor gas. I let Diebold do it for me.
USS Limbaugh? Ah yes! The Blimp.
current democratic party feels like the republicans of the past ... current republicans feel like the far-right extremists of the past ... current extremists feel like the nazis ...
Your comment perfectly frames what we face.
The platform of JFK would be rejected as too conservative by most republicans today. Yet you say republicans, which have said that Obamacare doesn't need rejection, only tweaking, and have given in to every Obama move, are extremists. Obama tells us he is willing to compromise with anyone, unless they are a republican in government. The democrats will not let republican bills come to the senate floor for a vote. there is NO compromise. A doubling of debt, the FED completely out of control, record golf games, record fund raising, record nation collapse, record, record, record and yet anyone who resists is and extremist. Go figure.
Really??? In my thinking the current democrats feel like the communist party from the USSR and the current republicans seem like the liberal democrats of the 1970s. The "extreme right" would be composed of Capitalist Skinheads if those even exist. They would be the half brethren of the old Nazis with the minor exception that there was little or no distinction between the Red Soviet Communists and German Nazis. By Hitler's own admission, he built his Nazi power house with little revision from the Red Soviet playbook.
>>>By Hitler's own admission, he built his Nazi power house with little revision from the Red Soviet playbook.
The only really distinctive aspect of Nazism was its over-the-top racism.
The Left has ever since cultivated the Right = Racist meme. It may be the Left's most effective selling point, since Left and Right are generally indistinguishable in most Western systems.
The Left has ever since cultivated the Right = Racist meme.
True and solid point, but the right, especially the religious right, use the same tactic when it comes to even quite valid criticism of the Israeli government.
And as a practical matter, the technique is effective because there are a lot of genuine racists who hold a particular position, which may have reasonable and legitimate bases, for the "wrong" reason.
Blind support for Likud Israel and de facto open borders may each rest on the successful use of this tactic throughout the media. It seems clear to me, anyway, that the majority of Americans wants neither blind support for Israel, nor do they want the open borders situation we have now. I presume most of them aren't merely racist, but the media newspeak essentially frames opposition to blind support/open borders as more-or-less invalid, ab initio, with terms like 'anti-immigrant' and 'anti-Israel' - rhetorically exluding the middle ground, non racialist grounds to want the government to act differently.
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Feinstein Invokes Nazis Concerning Unaccompanied Minors on BorderIt is a little uncanny how the following words reflect the polarization in our society between givers and takes, republicans and democrats and so on.
"or from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law." JC
Well gosh... For a second there I thought you were speaking on the uncanny Lincoln house divided speech... Or the uncanny house divided Hundred Years' War... Or the uncanny divided houses of the pre-Macedonian Greeks...
But people see what they want.
"I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding our world" - RD
Actually I am not religeous and I am aware that there have been conflicts and arguments throughout history.
Just consider in the USA alone in the last three or four elections how the country seems to be split equally. Look around the world and there is stuff going on just about everywhere.
Its like Fox news and CNN :)
I think social media, television, 24 hour information giving is just bringing all this to a head. It is only an observation and on what I described it has an impact for me, although there is much about all religions I do not condone.
Ben Garrison is very good, hard hitting, but a little hard on the joo's though. search google images for ben garrison.
perhaps there is a reason for that.
holy shit. I agree with you. Same guy??
Vote No Dem
Vote No Rep
Vote No Encumbent
If no choice, write in
Run yourself. Create a zero hedge party and I will vote for you!
The purpose of the Republican Party is to give the illusion that you have a choice. Without the illusion of having a choice, the peasants would have revolted a long time ago.
They are very happy with their job as the loyal opposition. They can fight the good fight and lose virtually every single one, yet come back to us asking for more power, more concessions, so that they might live to fight another day. They flatly reject anything that would approach change as that would threaten their alliance with the democrats. they are allowed to stay as long as they stamp their feet loudly in protest, but do little else. they controlled the whole thing for the first six years of Bush and accomplished nothing. No tax reform. No banking reform. No border enforcement. No smaller government. Nothing. They lived up to their contract with the democrats. And these republicans absolutely love the growing powers of government, as their thing is about power, right?
The reality is that the vast majority of our leaders of both parties, believe we are weak and simple minded fools that need, or demand a slave protected status. This was the platform of slave owning southerners prior to the civil war, claiming that they were the true benevolents, caring for the less than human, weak and simple minded negro. They see all of us this way. We are all but weak minded animalistic creatures only wanting comfort and immediate pleasure without an inkling of what to do worth real freedom or liberty. Liberty represents a threat to the orderly society and we will be domesticated for our own good, if it calls for prison, circuses, or simply a little calming weed.
They only want to see us happy.
Yours is a voice in the wilderness my friend. Molon Labe!
... (the Republicans) controlled the whole thing for the first six years of Bush and accomplished nothing. No tax reform. No banking reform. No border enforcement. No smaller government. Nothing.
Anyone who is ever tempted to vote Republican needs to remember the above. When they controlled the levers, they did nothing.
If they ever again control the levers of power, they will do nothing.
Keep on marching, August. Continue to be enslaved to it. Go for it.
Left...Left...Left...
Don't worry. Someone else will respond Right...Right...Right.
Then I will read Left, Right, Left, Right, Left, Right as you march off to your deserved doom.
I'm not affiliated, but considering the recent episode of activism, the law of least suboptimality indicates that nothing is better than something.
Tell that to the inbred fucks of Amerika stuffing their faces and opening up their pussies for welfare check.
I've seen the end results of what happens when someone reads the Ny Post everyday and watches Fox news..Mental illness.
Any independent thought that rejects the collectivist agenda is the poster child for mental illness.
What could we possibly be thinking by rejecting the gifting open hand of government?
The United States have outlived its usefulness. The States should be carved up as either individual sovereign territories (TX) or regional territories (the Northeast, SE, etc.). It think it was Aldous Huxley that effectively explained that the larger a country became the less freedom it was willing to "bestow" to its inhabitants.
The Republicans don't offer me much, but they don't threaten me as much as the Democrats always do. They're not incessantly trying to ban something -- incandescent light bulbs, adequate-capacity toilet flush tanks, standard-capacity ammo magazines, etc. -- or take something away we've always had. And they're not always trying to force me to do something I don't want to do, or to believe things I know are not true.
I've noticed my Second Amendment rights nearly always take a bigger and more immediate hit when the Democrats have the whip hand.
As far as I can see, the Republicans are nowhere near as hostile to personal and economic liberties as the Democrats.
Oh, well, the Democrats are handing out free pot to the poor in Berkely now, if you care about that ("Good Deltas take their Soma"), and they're pushing hard for gay marriage, if you care about that. I used to stay in some amount of trouble for being altogether too tolerant of homosexuals. It was not that I approved, I was just a real big believer in minding my own damn business, and as a rule other people's sex lives were none of my business, and didn't interest me.
But I've noticed that mere tolerance or indifference to what other people do in private with their privates is not good enough anymore. Now we are all commanded, on pain of losing our jobs or having our business shut down, or perhaps even being criminally charged with something, to positively and actively celebrate the legal redefinition of marriage. If we don't we are branded as bigots and haters.
It's not enough now to just shrug as the Pride Parade rolls by. Now we're required to jump up on that float. We're ordered by the courts to bake wedding cakes for with two grooms on them.
Nicely stated JJ.
The Republicans are crooks. You can negotiate with and reason with crooks.
The Demon Cats are ideologues. You can't negotiate with or reason with them.
Each successive president, and each successive congress is worse than the one before, no matter which party wins. And that's the point... they are the same in every way that counts.
Excellent
Great comment, Jungle Jim! Best one I've seen on ZH in a long time.
The idea that there is no difference between the left and the right is idiotic and lazy. The chasm between the left and the right is unbridgeable. One side will win, and one will lose.
You idiots who believe you are taking some kind of moral high ground with this endless BS that both sides are the same are unwittingly (or perhaps not) HELPING the left. At least have the guts to pick a side and defend it.
I'm sorry you're having trouble understanding the concept.
The idea is that neither side is for liberty. In that way, they are both the same. To pick a single example, getting robbed to support social programs and the MIC equates to getting robbed to support corporate welfare and the MIC in the pocket of the victim.
'Picking a side' is part of what is called divide and conquor. Go team, GO!
Well, I can see that you're on Team Lazy. There ARE two sides. The left and the right are diametrically opposed on every issue, every value, including liberty. If you believe that neither side is for liberty, then you believe that nobody is for liberty. Well, I am for liberty. That's the side I'm on.
If you mean that there is only one side in Congress (as opposed to what I'm saying, which is that there are two distinct ideologies in the world), then I disagree with that as well. If you think that Maxine Waters and Tom Cotton are equal in any way, then you need to be tested. If you sincerely believe that Trey Goudy and Hank (Guam will tip over) Johnson are the same, then I pray that you never vote.
I don't like being insulting on ZH, but you set the tone with your opening line. I believe there is a certain mind-set permeating ZH that thinks it is a moral high ground to state that both sides are the same. This is the equivalent as voting "present." It is not only lazy, it is intellectually dishonest. It shows only that you lack the ability to discuss or debate topics in an intellectually honest manner (first tell the truth, then give your opinion), or worse that you simply don't care.
Picking a side is called winning or losing. If you can't grasp that concept, then it's an almost certainty that you will lose. There are no guaranteed outcomes, but rest assured that there ARE two distinct sides in this world. One is good, and one is not. One will win, and one won't. I sincerely hope you give that a little more thought than you previously have.
Hi, thanks for your thoughful reply. It's only through honest debate that we can ever hope to arrive at the truth, and I look forward to the coming exchange.
Setting the tone: For me, your words here set the tone, "The idea that there is no difference between the left and the right is idiotic and lazy." Did I mistake the arrogance and hostility there? I'm ready to admit I was wrong if you have a plausible alternative interpretation.
Sometimes people speak at cross purposes because thier mental frames are at odds, and so maybe the best way to begin is to establish a working definition of liberty. What does that word mean to you? Maybe then I can better understand your position.
A course in ziobonics will quickly prove to you that judaism is not a race when convenient but can quickly morph into one when you look at the DNA-Y haplogroup carried by most khazars providing their mother was a khazar. That would include. Napoleon, Hitler, many royal families, including the Shinto in Japan who recognize each other as jewish through this DNA type according to researcher Arimasa Kubo of Japan. It also includes Israelis and Saudi Wahhabbis, many high nazi officials such as Joseph Goebbels and others. So yes it goes back to those "magic kohan crystals" in momma's blood line.
This particular haplogroup is generally considered more consistent to the neanderthal man of the caucasus as opposed to the cro-magnon man of Europe.
In fact Hitler's half sister Angela moved from the Jewish kitchen in Vienna to Hitler's home in Berchtesgaden and became his house keeper. Hitlers relatives in Ireland also exhibit these same DNA pattern and have indicated in interviews that Hitler trained in at the Tavistock institute in Britain. He was a British agent.
http://spectator.org/articles/39326/americas-ruling-class-and-perils-rev...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/02/20/as-country-club-republic...
If you vote along party line (D & R), you, probably, don't know what's happening.
End the FED. Nothing else matters.
Yep, take away the printing presses and it's game over in DC, but what politician is going to vote their own power away? If it's going to get done, the people have to do it. Go long pitchforks.
Voting in a system that is criminal and oppressing you is like voting for who gets to rape you and which hole they can use--and it makes you a willing participant as well.
Is someone saying that everything would be exactly the same now if Rand Paul had been elected President in 2012, and if the Republicans controlled the Senate as well as the House of Representatives? No difference at all?
I do not laud the Republican Party especially. 90+ percent of them are either p!$$-weak cowards or venal crooks. But when I see that a Republican is about to be elected President, I don't rush out and stock up on ammunition and freeze-dried food and 100 watt light bulbs, or take all my money out of the bank and buy safe to put it in.
where you watching my movements during the last election?
where you watching my movements during the last election?
Rand Paul isn't Ron Paul.
Rand Paul is pretty bad too. However, I don't remember the exact reasons that made up my mind about him.
The question is, is Rand better than Hillary? I'm inclined to say yes as to foreign policy, but his recent rhetoric sort of indicates he knows anti-interventionism is a loser when it comes to 'the special relationship' and the inevitable new Hitlers which American blood and treasure must be expended against in deference to that relationship.
Hell, wasn't Gary J's campaign manager a right-Zionist who, whether or not true, some felt may have done things to help the Adelson-supported Romney?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Turner
http://www.cfr.org/staff/b11203
http://www.dailypaul.com/261487/is-gary-johnson-a-zionist-asset
Reminds me of how VICE and TYT news started getting awfully mainstream in their coverage of Ukraine. Once media gets to a certain point, it gets bought and controlled.
Voting mattered, but not at this point. After all the illegals become American citizens and all the old fuckers who remember America die, it's a banana republic for the forseeable future bitchez. Hedge accordingly.
Maybe when Rand Paul through his support behind Mitt Romney while his dad Ron Paul was still running. That proved to any sane human being that Rand is a total sellout with absolutely zero real principles.
Rand Paul may very well be just like Obama... sounded semi-good (to many at least) before the fact, then after election, his true colors become obvious.
The only solution is to erase the federal government.
And that's not even a full solution.
But a good start, yes.
Amen to that, sister. Amen to that.
woops! blush!
through ===>> threw
I campained and donated money to Rand in the 2010 primary. That is the last time I will ever do that. His backing Mitt was my red pill moment.
Can't believe it took me until my mid 30's to realize this massive scam that is our election cycles.
(facepalm)
Rand is on the republican ticket you morons, did you expect him to back the other team, of course he is going to back Mitt. What's wrong with you people, are you waiting for that perfect knight in shining armor to save you. We've really become a bunch of sorry ass bitchez.
Perfect is the enemy of the good. Or something like that.
Point is, I'll take a Senate FULL of Rand Pauls over Harry Reids or Barack Obamas or Hillary Clintons or any other leftist.
Excellent cartoon.
The "other" version of the cartoon.
Is this the same Ben Garrison, or, I'm willing to speculate, is someone changing his shit after the fact. The above is purportedly from 2010, though.
As noted above, a google image search for 'Ben Garrison' has some stuff that's just way, way over the line of fair criticism and into racist caricature, etc.
junked!?
Dunno. If that array of images from him on Google are true - and currently there's no reason to think otherwise - he seems not to be a libertarian at all. He has a fascination with Hitler/Nazism and other loony fascists.
If he were British I'd say he was a typical member of the BNP, a political outfit that is essentially totalitarian hard-line fascist and wrongly described by MSM as "far right", even though many of its braindead members are ex-Labour Party who are fed up with democratic compromises.
Go on /pol/ and ask for their Ben Garrison fakes. You'll get all your reasons to think otherwise
When doing a google images search for Ben Garrison, it comes up with a lot of highly charged images and some statements made by him which are also highly charged. Are you saying they are not from him?? If so, why doesn't he get them taken down??
That is an oddity, though the cartoon you linked to appears to be tampered with. The Jew charicature coloring and style doesn't match the rest of the cartoon.
Of course that is just my opinion from studying both for about 5 minutes.
Forgeries of Ben Garrison's work are well documented. He even mentions it on his website. They are done by /pol/.
One thing - The MSM with the bullhorn never mentions "The Left" and it is decidedly opposed to The Right. Any New World Order does have some resistance from the Right,not at all from The Left as evidenced by Obama's world apology suck up tours.
Resistance from the Right? Bush Sr. and GW Bush aka "The Shrub" both pwned by the NWO. Liberterians too busy talking about legalizing drugs and not about real rights.
Do you see any resistance to Obama? Dont equate resistance from the right with establishment republicans who are more afraid of their base than they are of Democrats.
The Left-Right political paradigm has always been a sham, based on the "divide and rule" principle. There is no Right-of-Centre political ideology supported by any political party. They're all on the Left in varying degrees. Soft Left or Hard Left. That's the choice, take your pick. Marxist or Fascist. There's no real differences.
When did you ever hear a political candidiate advocate "small accountable government?? How about reducing the Welfare State or rolling back the powers of The State?? The answer is never, apart from one or two people like Ron Paul, dismissed by MSM as "eccentric" etc. People go into politics to become part of the giant and ever-more-powerful gravytrain, not to downsize government and put theselves out of a job.
Voting for one party to get rid of the other only changes the players, it doesn't change their game because the same Deep State henchmen remain in control from the shadows whoever wins an election. Very little changes, apart from one or two headline policies, bigged up to fool the people.
These are the great truths finally being realised across the Western world. The jigsaw pieces are slowly falling into place.
It is hard to determine if it is intentional but this cartoon puts a pyramid of the top.
It is a strange thing to do as it points out the 'american' middle class.
Usually, all these artists are obsessed with paying lip service to the 'american' middle class and here this 'american' indicts the 'american' middle class.
Is he a member of the illuminati or something?
Indeed this is not about 'left vs right'. That is a tired old twentieth century idea, that no longer exists.
it's about those who want to be free, vs those who don't want to be free. It's that simple.
"it's about those who want to be free, vs those who don't want to be free"
Quite so. And the immense difficulty many of us enlightened people have, who want to be free, is understanding the mindset of people who want to have - not only their own lives ordered by others - but the rest of us too. Such an infantile mindset is surely the beginning of the end of mankind.
amerikans are a lot of hot air.... talk and post on net.... accomplishing NOTHING....
organize locally and use groups to pressure your scumbag local, state and fed reps.... indviduals are totally discounted
it takes effort and 47% dont care.... you know who
Excellent cartoon. Should have been a vampire squid in there somewhere sucking everyone dry through taxes. Works both ways, end taxes, end the entire civilization we call the government. Only way to get away from such tyranny, well and tranny.
This is not brain surgery here.
Simply don't vote until they install term limits which I realize may be never. Without term limits I struggle to see the relevance of political banter and "tough decisions".
Transition to decentralized systems.
I've never voted, and I am so pleased at how things have turned out that have validated that choice.
We all kinda fucking knew.