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"Pot-For-Poverty": Bastion Of Liberalism Unveils Free Marijuana For The Poor
Aldous Huxley would be doing the "told-you-so-dance" as control of the population (particularly the non-elites) has reached levels only he could have dreamed of. In the latest government plan, hot on the heels of "cash-for-clunkers" and minimum wage hikes, Berkeley - that bastion of California liberalism - has unveiled what can only be described as a "Pot-for-the-poor" scheme. As LA Times reports, under a new ordinance, at least 2% of the marijuana each dispensary doles out needs to be given free to members who have “very low” incomes (under $32,000). So not only is work punished in America, but not working now has 'benefits'... it's only fair.
Medical marijuana dispensaries in Berkeley must give some of their pot free of charge to low-income patients under an ordinance approved by the City Council.
At least 2% of the marijuana each dispensary doles out needs to be given free to dispensary members who have “very low” incomes and are Berkeley residents, the ordinance, approved Tuesday, says.
The ordinance also stipulates that free pot must be the same quality, on average, as the pot that other members buy.
According to NBC Bay Area, the City Council has defined very low income as $32,000 a year for one person and $46,000 a year for a family of four.
Berkeley had three permitted dispensaries as of early 2012, according to the ordinance.
The reason for this...
“It’s sort of a cruel thing that when you are really ill and you do have a serious illness... it can be hard to work, it can be hard to maintain a job and when that happens, your finances suffer and then you can’t buy the medicine you need,” said Sean Luce with the Berkeley Patients Group.
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It appears, having realized that cracking the nut of inequality is impossible given the vested corporate interests, that the government will resort to numbing the poor comfortably into not caring... and on the bright side, late-night sales of snack food may surge... so it's positive for GDP too...
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Don't bogart that joint my friend
Soma for everyone, including the gammas.
Now back to the conveyer belt!
What next? Will they add a surcharge to everybody's phone bill so that the FSA can have free cellphones?
Oh wait...
Exactly. This is no different than obamaphones, section 8, utility bill subsidies, racist scholarships, etc.
Careful, from what I have read here over the years, there are a shit-ton of ZH'ers pcoketing big on Section 8 vouchers.
So the US is going to pot.
Slip some birth control drugs in it.
Hah ha ha ha
You must be a spawn of Bill and Melinda Gates
actually, the more I think about it, maybe Bill has an idea there... most disturbing but then again...
...then again, maybe it's Deutscheland talking after their win....
Is the brand name Soma?
Doob 3:16: Through the smoke, ye shall see (if you're not too baked, through the smoke [you already said that]) that Barry is, uh, the king? (laughter all around)
Next, hookers will have to give blow jobs to the poor.
Fuck me what else.....I am moving
Come on ZH.... this is classic: "give the sheeple what they want" so they don't hit the streets.
This is just as surprising as QEternity.
Homo sapiens will tolerate a lot of abuse if you let them party a bit, fuck a bit, and in some parts toke a bit.
The reason that anyone make less than 32000 a year is they already smoke enough weed and don't need to get it for free
Breweries shound have to give 2% of their Hops infused beer to those making less than 32K a year. I'd qualify and I prefer a nice IPA
He among us who has not been the beneficiary of some taxpayer ripoff may cast the first stone.
Bring us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to smoke free weed. I hold my Bic lighter beside the bureaucrats door.
Take a number ;-)
Relax, you aspiring junior DHS Stazi fucks.
Read the article again and move your lips when you get to the MEDICAL marijuana part. Note the absence of the word RECREATIONAL marijuana.
There are about 90 distinct cannibinoids they've identified in marijuana. ONE of those is the well-known psycoactive cannibinoid, THC. Most of the others have almost no known psychoactive properties or occur in quantities too small to have any effect. CBC is the most important (so far) from a medical standpoint. THC gets you high, CBC is slightly sedative, does not get you high and has several desirable medicinal properties.
Medical marijuanas are crossbreeds that eliminate as much of the THC as possible and maximize the CBC content. Nobody with parkinson's, alzheimers, seizure disorders, closed head trauma or autism spectrum disorder want's to get high at all, much less 24x7. They want relief from the disabling symptoms of their disease. 'Regular' marijuana is relatively useless in that regard. The CBC's are too low, and there's way more than a trace of THC. Medical strains were purpously developed that can't get you high and are optimized fo the medicinal cannibinoids.
Like every other medicine, CBC works wonders for some people and is so-so for others. It's widely accepted that 'natural' sources of CBC (along with all the other cannibinoids in medicinal marijuana) are far superior in action to 'pure' synthetic CBC produced in labs. This, of course, pisses off drug companies to no end.
The 2% set-aside for local, low-income patients eliminates the layers and layers of government that suck the life out of any concept of 'charity'. Everyone bitches about that all the time here. No poor, local junkies, no free-shit army stormtroopers, and no lazy, parasitic trailer-trash are getting high off any amount of medical marijuana. It's probably going to some kid dying of eye cancer (particularly painful) because the shit commercial drugs are useless or too expensive for them. It might be going to someone's aged parent so they can be communicative and coherent for a few hours with their family, rather than sitting in a corner drooling on themselves. It might go to one of those horrible welfare-queens with a wall of Obama-phones. Not for her, but for her semi-functional autistic kid that was kicked to the curb by everyone a long time ago.
This is a 2% levy on sales which actually goes directly to the people that potentially benefit the most from medical marijuana. If you think it's a bad idea, you'll really hate the people who run the medical marijuana dispenseries. Most of them give far more than the mandated 2% to families that need it - always have, always will. See how long that's going to last when Pfizer (or the other usual suspects) become the only federally-licensed growers and dispensers of medical marijuana. Hell, it won't even be grown in the U.S. anymore.
Well GOLL-LY am I relieved to hear that this medical marijuana will only go to the sick. Just like how Disability only goes to people legitimately disabled.
I agree Paveway.
What does that even mean? Given the vested coporate interests? And no, you're totally off, and clearly haven't smoked high grade cannabis. It does not numb you into not caring, it might make you significantly slower in some activites if you take large amounts, but it won't make you not care necessarily. This is highly stereotypical, and frankly inaccurate. People live quite successful and happy lives smoking pot (medicinally or recreationally).
Gotta say, quite a wonderful gift from nature. If you disagree with that, well, then, it's kinda hard to not tell you that, simply, "you don't get it"
Whoa, feckless statist alert!
"This is a 2% levy on sales which actually goes directly to the people that potentially benefit the most from medical marijuana. If you think it's a bad idea, you'll really hate the people who run the medical marijuana dispenseries. Most of them give far more than the mandated 2% to families that need it - always have, always will."
So, "most of them" got with the city council and had them decide to strong arm/punish/extract 2% from those that don't or city council just decided this is a grand idea ON TOP OF THE SALES TAXES it already collects?
And just what the hell is a Board of Equalization out there?
"See how long that's going to last when Pfizer (or the other usual suspects) become the only federally-licensed growers and dispensers of medical marijuana. Hell, it won't even be grown in the U.S. anymore."
Bullshit.
Everyone else will be hit up to subsidize it, just like GM, Fisker, A123, Tesla, ad nauseum. You fuckers never listen or learn, "Oh, the law is the problem!"...you make me want to puke...de-criminalize never legalize.
"The power to tax is the power to destroy." John Mashall...you'll find out soon enough.
"...Whoa, feckless statist alert!..."
Sheesh... I raise an eyebrow on nmewn and that's all I get? Pussy...
"...So, "most of them" got with the city council and had them decide to strong arm/punish/extract 2% from those that don't or city council just decided this is a grand idea ON TOP OF THE SALES TAXES it already collects?..."
If the subject of the ZH article was primarily about another layer of useless government levying useless taxes, then I would agree with you. The subject seems to me to be outrage at the free-shit army getting high and somehow costing every taxpayer 2% of something even though it only affects a total of three medical marijuana dispensories that operate in the city limits of Berkeley. Point taken though.
"...And just what the hell is a Board of Equalization out there?..."
An organization in the 1970's action-adventure featuring JoAnna Cameron as a superhero with a fake tan? No... wait - that was Secrets of Isis. Creepy fact: filmed at the Spahn Ranch (sans Squeaky).
"...Everyone else will be hit up to subsidize it, just like GM, Fisker, A123, Tesla, ad nauseum..."
[yawn] Um... I know for sure that I subsidize oil companies, banks, atomic energy, Israel's military and ISIS training (not Cameron - the scruffy bearded guys). Imagine the horror of Berkeley meedical pot dispensers 2% - what is it, quadruple tax? - on medical marijuana.
"...You fuckers never listen or learn, "Oh, the law is the problem!"...you make me want to puke...de-criminalize never legalize..."
Psychopaths are the problem. What do laws have to do with it? No laws should exist in a 'free' country that prevent me from growing, storing, brewing and subsequently consuming something on my own property, nor should it be possbile for any governemnt anywhere to levy any manner of tax on goods farmed or grown for personal consumption for any reason.
"...The power to tax is the power to destroy." John Mashall...you'll find out soon enough..."
Damn you, Berkeley Board of Equalization and your evil powers!
"...And just what the hell is a Board of Equalization out there?..."
An organization in the 1970's action-adventure featuring JoAnna Cameron as a superhero with a fake tan? No... wait - that was Secrets of Isis. Creepy fact: filmed at the Spahn Ranch (sans Squeaky).
Whatever dumbass, its the fucking government isn't it? What is the SALES TAX on "medical marijuana" in Berkeley...they can't skim off some of that for "the poor"? Oh hell no, thats us!!!
"Traveling? You may owe a Use Tax."...top right corner.
http://www.boe.ca.gov/
Collectivist statist, stay where you are, you'll be hunted down like a stray rabid dog around here.
What have you done with the real nmewn, you bastard?
I do admit, though... I kind of like the raving, insane weekend nmewn.
+1 for the "stray rabid dog"
Its always been easier for the sane to act insane than vice versa, so I'm working on it. You never know, when you guys start subsidizing hookers for "the poors" mental health issues...
...I always wanted to visit Cali.
You're certainly welcome at my house nmewn but you may find a different Cali than you expected.
Miffed;-)
Were you not calling for better border protection last week? You can't switch from statist to anarchist depending on the issue at hand. If you are against the existence of the state then what border are you protecting, using taxpayer's wealth of course?
Psychopaths are the problem.
Says the guy who's avatar is a weapon of destruction by the NWO/MIC to usually be used against smaller countries to steal their gold, oil, etc and muderer their populace.
Irony.
"...be used against smaller countries to steal their gold, oil, etc and muderer their populace..."
That's patently unfair to Afghanistan vets. You forgot the U.S. intelligence communitie's favorite opioid cash crop: poppies.
It's "...steal their gold, oil, poppies, etc and murder their populace..."
Well I imagine the two percent humanitarian haircut will not even come close to spreading the wealth around to everyone who thinks they should qualify to be given at the point of a gun something someone else has produced, yeah.. the camel's nose under the rug under the rug trick, next year five..no make that ten percent- it's Clownafornia remember?- let's spread that wealth around until we are all rich.
They didn't invent socialistic outrage, they merely perfected it through using the law for an assault weapon- Cloward Piven isn't some obscure academic theory- it's a homing beacon for Jerry's kids to the rocks on the left coast...
Anybody with a "disease" treatable by pot and $30 for a clinic visit can get a medical marijuana card. "Diseases" treatable by pot include muscle spasms and anxiety. Look in the ads of any west coast free newspaper and there are dozens of clinics that will gladly prescribe pot for anybody with the necessary money.
The whole medical marijuana movement is a scam and always has been. Just a back door method of legalization.
You sound like a man who is talking his book. Without any discussion of the fact that there are two differentially expressed cannabinoid receptors that control whether or not the cannabinoid in question gets you high or alleviates pain, and that despite intensive research there is no cannabinoid known that is specific for either of the these receptor types, your diatribe is valueless. The sad fact is that all know cannabinoid receptor agonists alleviate pain and at the same time get you high, end of story. Much like oxycontin and all known opioid pain killers. So stop the bullshit and take an aspirin if you want a pain killer. or smoke a joint if you want to get high at the same time. Either way I don't give a shit what you do, but spreading misinformation is a sin.
Medicinal cannibinoids can be extracted from the plant and are taken like any other plant extract you buy at a health food store - in pill form. You generally don't smoke medicinal marijuana except when forced to by draconian state laws.
I don't know if pain management is different in that respect, but your blanket statemen about pain-moderating receptors is flat-out wrong unless you artificially ignore any effect of the 89 other non-psychoactive cannibinoids in marijuana. Your statement is only specific to the one known psychoactive cannibinoid, THC, when they studied it to manage pain. The studies you might find are all old Reagan-era 'marijuana (=THC) is pure EVIL' propaganda. Few medical strains even existed back then. I'll stand corrected and wait for your links to studies showing ALL cannibinoids in marijuana are psychoactive and act on the same receptors in the exact same way as THC.
There's a few hundred OTHER far more important and beneficial medicinal uses unrelated to any pain-moderating receptors in the cannibinoid system. But I'll pass your great asprin suggestion along to the docs treating focal partial seizure disorders in kids. Maybe they never thought of that.
Relax, you aspiring junior DHS Stazi fucks.
Read the article again and move your lips when you get to the MEDICAL marijuana part. Note the absence of the word RECREATIONAL marijuana.
There are about 90 distinct cannibinoids they've identified in marijuana.... CBC is the most important (so far) from a medical standpoint. THC gets you high, CBC is slightly sedative, does not get you high and has several desirable medicinal properties.
+1 for the informative post regarding the differences between medical and recreational marijuana. I (and I'll bet plenty of other people) learned a lot from it.
-100 for believing 'our' overlords have the right to impose yet more re-distributive 'fairness' on us, even if it is for the childern.
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...not a prob, because Berkeley's got that covered as well with their "Bongs-for-Bogarts" program.
The FSA gets the brunt of the scorn but I like to save some for the Free Shit Generals.
Without them, the FSA wouldn't be so big...and...when a system is designed to game you, we can't be surprised if some take a purely pragmatic approach and decide to game "it".
LMAO
wait till these limousine liberals run out of other peoples pot
then things will get interesting
Where's the same ordinance requiring pharmacies give away all the other medications free of charge? Oh that's right Pfizer and CVS would be pissed if that passed...
The rule of law is bullishit. It will always be perverted this way.
Let people grow a few plants at home if they want them. It hurts the cartels and politicians looking for more tax money. Win win.
The Free Shit Army is probably too lazy to grow two plants that are essentially weeds.
HAHAHAHA !!!
Yet ANOTHER way that the Fascist CORP/FED/NSA government keeps the masses at bay. Watch their every move....listen to every conversation....monitor the memes on the social networks.....control the printing and value of their money....make them think they have a choice.....and when all else fails......dope the shit out of them.
LOL !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBN1CkyRzmE
the peasants have no bread...
let them eat
pot brownies
Keep 'em sedated, keep 'em stupid. If I'm a neo-con power broker, I'm lovin' it.
Yeah, the neo-con power brokers definitely run the People's Republic of Berkeley City Council.
If you believe weed 'turns you stupid', you are a conservative, maybe not a neo-con, but still pretty stupid.
Optimistic view: Popeye's spinach for the mind.
The established social systems are based on control through lies backed by violence: basically, debt slavery backed by wars based on deceits. The ruling classes' enforced frauds are supposed to keep those they rule over ignorant and afraid. One of the well-known scientific facts about marijuana is that regular use can help with post-traumatic stress syndromes. MARIJUANA USE CAN HELP PEOPLE FORGET LEARNED FEARS. One of the many reasons why marijuana was made illegal is that the biggest bullies hate it when people laugh at them. The ruling classes have waged a prolonged war against the consciousness of those they rule over. Tragically, after looking at the basic social facts, I would suggest that has been about 99% successful. But nevertheless, within a social system which is based on controlling people by keeping them ignorant and afraid, anything which would help them overcome that is something that the established systems are going to try to suppress.
Unfortunately, our society is a Bizarro Mirror World Fun House, where everything is proportionately backwards and distorted, from the basic concepts in the philosophy of science, on throughout every aspect of politics. Inside that context, it is difficult to navigate through the maze of established lies, backed by violence, which are the foundation of the entrenched social systems. More radical Hemp Truth cannot be appreciated without more Radical Truth in general. Our society is at least about 99% dominated by systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence. Anyone who advocates "legalizing marijuana," without addressing the larger context in which that works, is missing at least about 99% of the bigger picture.
Medical marijuana did not fit into the Profit From Disease Systems, that the Rockerfeller foundations, et alia, were able to promote during the last Century or so, in order to become profitable medical cartels, verging on monopolies. The degree of success that enforced frauds had at dominating the political processes, driving vicious feedback spirals, makes any saner public debates about anything practically impossible. It is almost impossible to exaggerate the degree to which things are BACKWARDS, in ways which repeat on deeper level after deeper level. Medicine operates inside the monetary system, which operates inside the murder system. Therefore, medical marijuana also fits inside of those thoroughly paradoxical predicaments.
Legalizing medical marijuana should be perceived as a problem which appears through infinite tunnels of deceits, regarding how everything else is dominated in our style of civilization, controlled by enforced frauds. More Radical Truth about that goes as deep as one can see, with the lies being different at every level. Indeed, one of the ways to approach more Radical Truth is to perceive that anyone who believes that they have discovered "the truth" has actually only discovered another level of lies, where those lies are different at every level.
This article, and the comments upon it, are like cross-sections taken of the whole situation, or like the parable of the seven blind men touching a part of an elephant, and then pronouncing upon what an elephant is. Discussions about "marijuana" are based on what could be expressed as: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was a Lie."
That's it. I'm proudly hoisting the Amercan flag.
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You can get a tax deduction for it in Berkeley if it's made of hemp.
..make that Ameri-yes we-can..
wait, so you just walk into the joint from who-knows-where and say "I'm poor" and they give you an ounce??
The weed is free but the Chips Ahoy's are full price. *brought to you by Nabisco
..so you just walk into the joint from who-knows-where and say "I'm poor"..
..Is this a great country or what?- has been working for decades, now it's improved.. and of course at no cost to the taxpayer..
Up in smoke indeed
Only a few years ao they threw you nin jail for having pot, now they are stealing from the dispensaries.
What about pharmacies and their 2% gift to the poor, or serce stations and supermarkets and car dealers and on and on........
Don't live in California, let alone Berkeley, if you don't want to support the FSA.
I'd go so far as to avoid doing business with people there. I get letters from California's tax agency shaking me down for taxes every year simply because I have customers in CA that buy my products (all work is performed outside of CA, but that doesn't stop them from trying.)
The whole benefit system is out of control there, be it pot, unemployment, you name it. I have an ex that had a breakdown at her job, and due to how the calculations worked she got more than 80K a year in direct payments for not working, and was heavily discouraged from getting back to work by people that ran the system. The grift is everywhere and getting worse, and won't stop until it collapses by being a burden bigger than the tax donkeys and California bondholders can bear.
another five years and we'll be paying Mexico to take it back.
80K for having a break down at work? Damn, my mind is running amuck! So, how did she do it....A simple case of the vapors or is violence involved? I will practice my acting skills. This is far more than my take home pay and disability pay is tax free.
Cali is truly the Golden State now.
Miffed;-)
I say we take off and bong the entire site from orbit – it’s the only way to be sure.
And they will be on record as a pot smoker who can no longer legally own a firearm.
I'll admit to restarting the car while it was running but that doesn't make me trigger happy.
People have been mad to give away their rights for just about anything free. Being stoned just makes it that much easier.
huh?
..who can no longer legally own a firearm.
How cynical to imply there could be a motive within a motive.
..I'm shocked, shocked! I tell you.
It's becoming obvious why they're getting lax on Mary Jane. They need the soma to flow now...
Not just soma, they need money to flow. Why should billions be going to drug cartels when it could be going to the states /government cartel instead?
What shocks me is they're letting private enterprises do this. If they really wanted max revenue they'd make all pot be state-farmed (oh won't that fry the Fed's brains, since you'd have to have the DEA raiding a state's facility) and distributed by state stores (like some of the messed up liquor places in the eastern states.) That this doesn't happen just shows how little work governments really want to do for their income.
It should be forced on those bloodthirsty bastards in washington!
Will they take EBT cards? Silly question.
No, it's like free, man, like uh... you ... uh... ummmmm. (giggles) hu.. uh... hu um... don' needta uz-yer free shit card for free shit since it's already like free shit, chunowwaddeyemean?
Hey man, whenzat pizza gonna git here, huh?
Whenzu call?
Uh...
Idunno..
Seems like a bout a week ago from yesterday, huh?
Uh huh...
They'd be able to easily turn around and sell it. That shit is high grade.
Are they going to release the pot dealers and distributors from prison?
That should hurt prison stocks.
I assume theyll just start giving freebies to their part time workers instead of raises.
Stupid fucking govt workers always think theyre smarter than us and meddle in our affairs without accomplishing anything.
fucking asshole liberal cheese dicks....
HEY...YOU MOTHERFUCKING LIBERAL CUNT THAT DOWN VOTED ME....
BET YOU WITHER LIKE A BITCH IN REAL LIFE WHEN SOMEONE CHALLENGES YOU OVER YOUR FUCKING BOY FUCKBAMA...AND HIS BAND OF ANTI-AMERICAN LOSER BITCHES...
FUCK OFF!
FUCK THAT BLUE SHIZ GOOD
BAM!
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Stop talking. I come to this site to get AWAY from the narrow-minded, dogmatic bullshit of the failed "liberal/conservative" "left/right" FALSE DICHOTOMY. If people identified with each other on the basis of real GRIEVANCES they have and not some petty, useless label they give to each other and themselves, 90% of this country would be unified against the tyranny of the federal government and its banking elites.
This article is misleading, at best.
This isn't some dastardly, diabolical plan. First of all, this is MEDICAL marijuana and not recreational marijuana. Last I checked, marijuana has known, medically established benefits for particular patients. This is a program to aid poor people in need of health care.
Plus, you really think people won't want to protest because they're smoking pot? Sure, I guess that explains why all those totally non-pot-smoking people staged mass civil unrest during Occupy. Because of how NOT high many of those people were. Right.
Sometimes ZH just fails miserably...
I had no idea that there were so many so ill.
Anyone who believes this has anything to do with medicine is likely simple enough to believe in hope and change.
That's quite the conspiracy theory. Yes, the people of California voted to make medical marijuana legal, against the wishes of every left and right wing politician, in order to make themselves docile and subservient.
In other words, the people of California bucked the authority of the federal government precisely in order to submit to the authority of the federal government. Makes sense to me. Do you sell lesson plans for your introductory course to basic logic?
No
In the People's Something or Other Neat Palace of Uhwhatefer .... there is no medical marijuana...
IT IS ALL RECREATIONAL
...I can't find the pebble I dropped in Mac Arthur Park. I need something for the angst of it all being Bush's fault...
People are voting for more free shit every day and YOU think they would never, ever do it to get high?
If pot is legal, it because someone sees profit in it. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for free markets and not particularly against legalization of pot. My question is...why now? With all the shit going down, incomes falling, job growth in retreat and government reaching out for ever more control of everything we do, from our doctor to what we eat...why pot now?
Why now?
Because incarceration rates skyrocketed during the Reagan, Clinton and Bush administrations. We incarcerate a larger percentage of our population than North Korea does. A privatized prison industry writes statutory mandatory minimum senencting laws at the behest of their lobby to ensure a steady stream of convicts for their business operations. California's prison system was found by SCOTUS, in a 5-4 decision, to have systematically violated prisoners' 8th Amendment right prohibting cruel and unusual punishment. Not even on a case-by-case basis, I'm talking about massive, widepsread issues related to overcrowding that affected thousands upon thousands of prisoners. I remember SCOTUS wrote specifically that one prisoner died of undiagnosed testicular cancer that he had repeatedly brought to the attention of prison guards during the previous 18 months, when it could have been diagnosed and treated with proper medical attention. And you're honestly wondering "why now?" Yes, systems ARE breaking down left and right, and some of that breaking down is attributable to the fact that these policies have continued unabated. People are just standing up and saying "no more."
Regardless of the reasons "why" this movement is happening at this time, rather than earlier, or later, I simply think it's better to address these issues now rather than kick the can down the road and hope for the best.
Oldwood, I'm old enough to remember the local bookie/ numbers guy growing up in Baltimore. Whoa!, dat shit was illegal !
Then the State started their numbers racket . Now it was good. And, oh, for the children. You know, schools and such.
Then the lotto.
Then the four digit.
Then twice a day.
Then keno.
Then Racetrax. A numbers game every three minutes, designed to look like a horse race.
Then multistate powerball. Then.. Drumroll.......
Casinos. But only slot machines. ( for the children)
Then table games.
Give them time.
State sponsored drugs.
State sponsored whorehouses.
These motherfuckers make the mafia look like pikers. But, it's for the children.
Who cares that those things are all legal now? Whether legal or illegal, numbers rackets, prostitution and drug use have always been around and always will be. Are you saying you're mad because all those things are out in the open now, and not tucked neatly away under the thin veneer of a supposedly upstanding, morally upright culture? What is it about the exposure of those vices that causes you such discomfort?
The Victorian era in Britain was also known for its "upstanding," "moral" quality as well. Never mind the fact that prostitution reached record levels during that time period (never mind the man "behind the curtain," so to speak). Of course, it's no coincidence that a supposedly "moral" society concealed its vices within the puritanical facade it created for itself. You are more content to just let those vices be illegal, and indiscriminately punish people with disproportionately lengthy prison sentences because that way, you don't have to see it. That way, you don't have to deal with those problems directly.
Time to start coming to terms with reality. I'm 27, and during high school, it was much easier for me to acquire marijuana, mushrooms, cocaine, LSD, adderall, and anything else I wanted OTHER than liquor. And I went to a nice, private Catholic school by the way. So, just sending your kid to a nice school isn't removing them from access to drugs -- on the contrary, if your kid is well-off, chances are he'll have access to some of the BEST quality drugs money can buy.
Either way, prohibiting access to marijuana, like you want to do, isn't "helping the kids" or whatever you think it's doing (and surely you can agree the policies of the last 70 years have been an abject failure by any measurable standard). It's the equivalent of pretending there isn't a fire in the room when there really IS one, instead of actively working to put the fire out. People who want to make marijuana possession a rehabilitation issue rather than an incarceration issue want to treat the problem directly by funding better schools and giving access to rehabilitation programs should the need arise. At least people who support marijuana legalization aren't ignoring the problem and pretending it doesn't exist, like you.
U r forgetting all the tax rev's and kickbacks. They werent THAT opposed to it after u consider that. Pay less attention to what they say and more attention to what they do
Think of it as hopium to go with the mange.
You fail to see the big picture. This is just more examples of central planning- THEY decide who gets what and why. Cmon man
One can easily get a prescription from Dr. Feelgood ... and then Feel Good and allow me to pay for it. You see no problem with that. If, in California, there were any real control on marijuana distribution to those who need it, I would respond as you have. Or if marijuana were legal ... but it's not, and as such, making a law that forces me to fund this give away is the same as forcing me to fund insolvent too big to fail banks.
Subsiding Taxpayer monies to meet GDP goals. Do you plan to sell your children into slave labor after Mary Jane looses revenue inflows?
FEMA camps need to start stockpiling cannibis for camp population control.
Have you failed to notice that they are making over America into a FEMA camp. When they finally do build a border fence, you will know it is to keep us in.
A new sub economy. Already EBT food stamps are traded for drugs and lap dances. Now cannabis coupons can be traded as another subculture fiat.
free pot with free obamabongaphone
Genuine medial marajuana seldom provides much if any buzz.
Keep em stoned and watching DWTS and AI as Obama and his minions screws the poor and middle class. They are too screwed up to know the difference. Just keep voting Democrat and keeping Obama and other Liberals in the big bucks and you can live on the Democrat Plantation forever. Where is all that free stuff????
The Berkeley / Mill Valley Lexus Liberals wave their wand or just run their tired suckholes at their God-damned city counsel meetings and create these farces for the white tax mules to labor under.
Then they drive back up to their homes in the hills. Their secular sanctimoniousness used to get to me. Now I just take it for the joke it is and shrug it off. The cannabis in those dispensaries will zonk a normal adult for hours but at least the gimmedats stay non-violent and the fuck out of my face. Meth is the issue here, gentlemen. Meth makes people fucking ca-razee.
Keep the peasant so high, they will never see the next stage of banking theft
the peasants are royalty while the royalty continues to pilfer
same shit, different pile
This will be all over the FSA coconut wireless this afternoon. Downtown Berkeley is already a shithole over run with homeless. This will bring another bumper crop.
Having lived in the Bay Area it is known the 'rubber tire' FSA will migrate to the best pickings.
Ah, the psychotic breakdown of pot prohibition! This news story is just another little piece that one could put together into that puzzle picture. The whole of Neolithic Civilization is going through psychotic breakdowns, within which context cannabis exemplifies the general patterns of social facts. The psychotic breakdown of pot prohibition is a small component of the overall psychotic breakdown of the Neolithic style of civilization, as social pyramid systems based on backing up lies with violence.
Neolithic Civilization was based on agriculture and slavery, or farming, with human farming at its core. Marijuana laws are merely the single simplest symbol, or the most extreme particular example, of how almost everything became controlled by legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, so much, for so long, that society became stark raving mad due to the profound paradox that backing up lies with violence never makes those lies become true, but nevertheless, the ability to enforce frauds drives the entire civilization controlled in that way to become crazier. In particular, criminalizing all cannabis cultivation on the basis of huge lies about "marijuana being almost as bad as murder," demonstrated the ways that society was becoming more insane, i.e., the single best plant on the planet for people, for food, fiber, fun and medicine, was completely criminalized, thus demonstrating runaway social insanities, as sophisticated slavery systems spun out of control.
POT PROHIBITION IS NOT ENDING DUE TO THE BREAKTHROUGH OF MORE RADICAL HEMP TRUTH. Instead, pot prohibition is ending due to it going through the processes of psychotic breakdowns, because backing up legalized lies with legalized violence never "works," except if by "working" one intends to cause those paradoxical effects to happen.
The "legalize marijuana" movements were dominated by mainstream morons, reactionary revolutionaries, or by what could metaphorically be described as groups of Black Sheeple. They do not address more radical Hemp Truth, but rather, they continue to compromise with the old lies. Of course, marijuana is being "legalized" in the worst possible ways, which are now too little, too late, and too trivial to matter much.
In the modern world, the only thing really important, more than a job or health or liberty, is the public display and expression of personal sexual proclivities and getting high.
Utopia
If you can't make a better world, then its just best to distract yourself with personal pleasures, and the higher you are the easier it gets.
Oldwood, in my opinion you continue to regard drug use as if all drugs were the same. However, the vast majority of drugs are fatal in overdose, while only a relatively small group are not fatal in overdose.
Therefore, you tend to group "getting high" within the general class of all drug use, most of which is actually decreasing consciousness, as proven by the fact that an overdose of those drugs becomes fatal. In my view, another test with respect to the effects of different drugs is whether or not people who vow to change, while under the influence of a drug, then follow through to actually do so. The people who are under the influence of drugs that decreased their consciousness tend to never follow through. However, it often happened that people who were under the influence of drugs that increased their consciousness did follow through.
I would agree with you that, by an large, most people have discovered, that, so far, it is practically impossible to "make a better world." Given that the overall, objective systems are runaway debt slavery, heading towards debt insanity, backed by wars based on deceits, heading towards death insanity, there is not much left for any individual to actually do, but attempt some expression of personal liberty.
I would not necessarily agree that expressions of individual freedoms are utterly divorced from the bigger social systems. I would agree, that, so far, the only areas where some increased personal freedom has been achieved were in areas like those in the "expression of personal sexual proclivities," while the political economy systems have continued on the same, other than getting worse, faster. However, it still remains possible that some seeds are being planted thereby?
We no longer are living in "the modern world." We are deep into the runaway development of a post-modernizing world. The established systems are madly destroying themselves, but they are still too powerful for anyone else to destroy them. In that situation, individual expressions of personal freedoms are about all that is practically possible. But nevertheless, as the established systems drive themselves towards their own mad self-destruction, there may then emerge some opportunities for diversity? Such diversity then might be ground for consolidations of some new systems, which might be able to survive through that? I am not sure what alternatives might actually turn out to be better. However, I am certain that all of the established social and political habits have become terminal dead ends, which cannot be revived, unless they were simultaneously radicalized.
Well all that's good or not Radical. Here's my problem ;
We've got the DEA and every other abc agency that makes it's bones "policing" drugs. And if drugs are made " legal", well tell me, where are these fucks going to focus their attention?
Tell me one, just one, government agency that has ever been disbanded.
At the beginning of prohibition, there were roughly 500 " revenuers". At repeal, there where over over 10,000 , suddenly without anything to do. That agency became Alcohol, Tobacco, and FIREARMS. And with the passage of the 1934 " machine gun" laws ( tax acts), these fine fellows had a purpose.
So drug legalization doesn't bother me. A bored DEA does.
Absolutely correct, NoPension!
I agree with your review of the history, including that extraordinary fact that a tax law was allowed to control machine guns, which then became the precedent to use tax law to control marijuana.
When alcohol prohibition was ending, the personnel in the bureaucracy that was set up to enforce that swung through to develop pot prohibition.
IT IS NOT AN EXAGGERATION TO SAY THAT MARIJUANA LAWS WERE BASED ON THE VIEW THAT MARIJUANA WAS ALMOST AS BAD AS MURDER, DESPITE THAT MARIJUANA HAS NEVER KILLED ANYONE. I cannot believe that the people who were responsible for promoting such HUGE LIES were anything less than extremely evil.
For example, the career of Harry J. Anslinger:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger
assistant commissioner in Bureau of Prohibition.
Anslinger ... head of The Federal Bureau of Narcotics ... hoped to orchestrate a nationwide dragnet of jazz musicians and kept a file called 'Marijuana and Musicians' ...
These days, the war on terror is trumping the war on drugs, in which context one would suspect that there still are some government files that list dangerous musicians. As you say, NoPension, after the war on drugs, which was mostly the war on marijuana, breaks down, the evil pyramidion people behind that are practically guaranteed to come up with new reasons to do something even worse. Indeed, through their inside job, false flag attacks on 9/11/2001, they already appear to have done that!
I speculate that perhaps that even includes celebrities that would be secretly assassinated in ways which, of course, could not be proven. On the basis of some superficial research into the matter, I suspect that both Michael Jackson, and Harry Belafonte, may have been assassinated, by what were planned to be sufficiently covert medical means, after they started to talk publicly about the issues that I refer to as debt slavery backed by wars based on deceits. (Indeed, I am also of the view that when Martin Luther King switched over from talking about civil rights to talking more against the political economy and its wars, was when he was assassinated.)
From a practical point of view, it seems impossible to imagine that the social pyramid systems will not continue to get ever more dishonest and violent in the foreseeable future. It appears practically guaranteed that the established systems will generate new sets of excuses to persecute people, after pot prohibition breaks down. The basic methods of organized crime, through which the government has become the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, appear to be unstoppable, except by their own madness eventually destroying themselves.
The basic methods of organized crime include bribery and intimidation, as well as assassination of those who could otherwise not be bribed or intimidated. The government ended up being controlled by those means, and then, the government ended up doing more of those kinds of things than any other lesser gang of organized criminals.
We now know it was a fact that Anslinger hoped to orchestrate a nationwide dragnet of jazz musicians and kept a file called 'Marijuana and Musicians' ... Since from about the middle of the 1970s, the established systems have become so completely corrupt that there was no longer any real Congressional oversight that was not a farce. We know something about the evil things that happened before then, which were later declassified. In my opinion, things have gotten much worse. Therefore, I find it plausible that the government still keeps lists of musicians that it thinks are dangerous, and that covert operatives would eliminate those, if that was viewed to have become necessary, by the people who dominate society by being dishonest and violent.
Indeed, I think it is NOT possible to stop that from being the case. Moreover, it appears practically impossible to get enough people to understand and agree upon how to limit that from having already become a runaway situation. Since most of the people who are against the "war on drugs" do so on the false belief that that war has been a "failure," I do not see how there is enough general understanding of what was really going on to be able to cope with that in any sufficiently comprehensive ways.
I'm am not for the illegalization or imprisonment for anything a person does to themselves, period. But that does not mean I condone it either. Drugs, including alcohol, dull our senses, or at the very least effect our judgement. Its one thing to imbibe on occasion and it is something else to be a regular user. To abandon one's mind, their sobriety, is to enslave ones self to whom ever or what ever takes it's place. It should be obvious to everyone here that we are and have been manipulated for decades. Does anyone here honestly think using drugs makes that harder for them to do so.
Again, I'm not for laws restricting drug use except possibly for minors. But that does not make it smart. But its your mind, your life. But living in a democracy where a simple majority can rule our lives, I beg for you or anyone else who finds the need to exist outside of reality, please do not vote. Life is hard enough without having people on drugs defining how I live my life.
Well said sir. ZH is a good site, but sometimes there seems to be a tug-of-war going on between people here who see these "psychoses" for what they are, and other people who cling to their old frame of reference – the essential "lie" which catapulted their own delusional understanding of the world into existence.
Pot prohibition was built on racism. No, not fake "racism" that makes us dislike Obama. I'm talking about real, VISCIOUS racism that would be completely unacceptable in this day and age. People still want to rely on the myth that drugs are just those bad things minorities do, while ignoring white people who die or succumb to alcohol and other drug related problems all the time.
Also, I feel like this should go without saying – but the only reason medical marijuana is even LEGAL in California is because the people of that State voted, very much AGAINST the wishes and authority of the federal government, to make medical marijuana legal. Now, the dopey writer of this article is suggesting that somehow people resisted the tyranny of the federal government's pot prohibition in order to willingly pacify themselves at the hands of the federal government? That doesn't make any fucking sense at all.
I live in Colorado and when pot here became legal, all of the same neocon douchebags who cheered on the Iraq War started crying wolf about how high, marijuana-crazed negroes are going to start raping all the white women (in a more modern, acceptable form, of course).
Well, I'm still here, Colorado is doing relatively well and is one of the nicest states in the country to live in, and the sky hasn't fallen yet. So, I'm calling this writer's bluff. What a sad little article written by a clearly delusional little man.
So its been a whole 18 months and things have never been better. Lets get out those history books and start rewriting them immediately.
Liberals only wish their sociological experiments yielded returns so quickly. They are just now getting the returns for fifty years of education "reform".
Colorado is seeing much higher (no pun intended) revenues that are going towards education and health care. You just represent the "old" way of thinking, Oldwood -- deny the drug offenders federal student loans for a college education and wonder quizzically 1) why we don't have a more skilled workforce and 2) why half of our graduate science programs are composed of non-American asians. Get back to me on why that is -- pretty sure there are quite a few people out there who would have loved going to college but for their possession of a single joint when they were teenagers.
See, it's for the children. By now, our kids should be ferried to palaces, in chauffeured Rolls Royces.
semperfudge....I don't care about dope. You can burn all you want. The more you all smoke, the better off the country is. I would rather be around a bunch of stoners than a bunch of violent drunks if I had to choose. Potheads always like to compare dope to booze, so I can only assume you would be a drunk if you were not able to be a stoner.
But if you think that money is going to go to the schools while the regular money keeps coming in also....you need to put down the bong bro. Or get a less potent stash.
Look at the lottery and see how that school money-train went.
Now go smoke a bowl.
I'm not much of a pothead these days. Pot smoking, for the most part, belongs to the glory days known as "college" and being in a "frat." Booze is now my accepted method of mind-numbing treatment for the woes of the modern world.
Of course the money is going to the schools, ya dummie. Is it being siphoned off into something else? Colorado's schools aren't going to be producing little Einsteins on a regular basis as a result of it, but it's certainly not going to hurt the schools to have a little extra money.
I find your type funny, because you think only "stoners" smoke marijuana. Let me tell you -- the first "important" person I ever smoked weed with was an ex-girlfriend's mother, who was (and still is) an ALJ. You can look that up if you don't know what that is.
Nowadays, I know attorneys, doctors, scientists and engineers who smoke marijuana. And computer programmers. Hahaha, ESPECIALLY computer programmers. The FBI head lamented recently that too many of the interviewees for the computer crimes division wanted "to get high on the way to the interview." Oops, had to retract that statement. But the point remains the same -- if you think "stoners," as you so politely call them, are the only people who smoke weed, you're not getting out very much. Or, rather, you just have a very, VERY "square" group of boring, uninteresting friends. Grow up buddy.
Oldwood, I think you are ignoring one of SemperFudge's most important points: it was through referenda that the changes in Colorado and Washington state happened. The established politicians did not like that. They did not support that, despite that those referenda were deliberately designed to compromise with the old lies about "marijuana" as much as possible, in order to make it more probable that they would be passed. The "legalization of marijuana" is happening despite that the entrenched political establishment, of bankster dominated politicians, do not like that. Meanwhile, eveything is being done to try to neutralize the effects of that ...
It remains to be seen whether or not the changing of public opinions about pot reaching the tipping point in the last 18 months or so is symbolic of other turning points regarding other topics. My basic view is that one has to regard marijuana as being an innocent and good plant that was thrown into the chipper of the combined money/murder systems.
The deeper issues that one should follow through on are to go from marijuana, to money, to murder, becauses it was from the murder system, to the money system, that we ended up with the previously existing marijuana system. In my view, changing the marijuana system is practically meaningless, unless that leads towards changing the money system, and changing the murder system. Marijuana control exists inside of money control, which exists inside of murder control, and that is especially the case with respect to medical marijuana!
The drug wars were always wars based on deceits, which advanced the overall debt slavery systems. There is barely any rational public debate about the reasons why the economics of slavery rationalized racism. Similarly, the pogrom against people who liked pot has never been put into overall proper perspective by the mass media. I tend to like the saying that "Hippies were voluntary coloured people." The cannabis community discovered what it was like to be discriminated against because one was the wrong race, or the wrong religion, or had the wrong sexual orientation, etc. ... As I outlined in my previous reply to you, and as SemperFudge also suggested, you appear to have chosen your Zero Hedge name, Oldwood, because you are relatively old-fashioned.
Well, in some ways, I am too, since I could also be described as kind of like a redneck radical. "Education reform" was clearly something that was advanced by groups like the Rockerfeller Foundation, et alia, who had an evil ulterior agenda behind doing so. In my opinon, the mainstream marijuana movements have recently become funded by some typical asshole billionaires, in order to steer them into the kind of political dead-end movements that they have become. That is, the current "legalize marijuana" organizations with the most money (donated by a few wealthy people) are becoming classically controlled opposition, which are NOT promoting more Hemp Truth, much less any more Radical Truths generally, but instead, are pretending to be "practical" by badly compromising with the old lies.
Indeed, that is the basic way that I view the news story featured in this ZH article. The emerging "legalization of marijuana" is now recapitulating a lot of the bullshit that still dominates how our society overall works, such as by governments enforcing charity, while not being able or willing to perceive how profoundly contradictory that is in principle.
And you are missing my point. I'm not for punishing anyone for smoking dope, or heroin for that matter. I'm simply trying to say that it only plays into the hands of the leaders. It provides increased (at least short term) revenues as was pointed out, why also drugging a larger section of our society. They are drugs. Most of us have done them. most of us out grew them, but if it is you life. If its what rings your bell, it all yours. My question remains why now. Public referendum or not, we are seeing more governments embrace this every day. We are being manipulated, ring fenced on a daily basis, so why are they giving us more liberties. Is it only me that sees these liberties as being on balance more damaging than less to society? I grew up in the sixties and seventies in a college town. Trust me I have indulged. I'm not trying to be an old prude here. I lived it and saw the damage it brought, and I'm not talking jail time. I'm talking lives. people who are seeking an escape use drugs. That's what they are for. Most people don't coexist in different worlds simultaneously and do well. There are exceptions to every rule, but few are the exceptions.
This just doesn't seem like the best time to be escaping. We have a shit storm in our face to deal with, and speaking for myself, I need all the brain cells I can muster right now. Maybe others are more blessed.
Yes, SemperFudge, there is no doubt that the original anti-pot propaganda was based on racism (and a form of sexism) as you described. In the USA, there is no doubt that the ways that the drug laws have actually been enforced ended up primarily accomplishing the same goals as racism, except by differently justified means.
However, I think that this ZH article was primarily against the "Socialism" or "Liberalism" aspects of governments enforcing distribution of wealth. After all, it is clear from an abundance of ZH articles chosen for publication that the people running that Web site do not like government enforced redistributions of wealth.
Of course, as I said, in my comment, and another reply on the first page, "marijuana" is extremely paradoxical, because everyone is used to it being completely criminalized so much for so long that a few generations have been born into that system. Meanwhile, IF marijuana was completely legal, then it should only cost roughly 10 cents per gram, say like dried tomatoes. Totally legal marijuana could be so cheap and so abundant that one could hardly give it away.
Of course, that was one of the original reasons why cannabis was criminalized in the first place. All kinds of other industries would have not been able to compete with hemp. However, since all cannabis cultivation WAS completely criminalized for decade, after decade, for scores of years, it is now almost impossible to imagine what it would mean to live in a society which was not like that, SINCE, ONLY A CULTURE THAT COMPLETELY CORRUPT AND CRAZY TO ITS CORE WOULD HAVE EVER CRIMINALIZED CANNABIS!
The economics of slavery rationalized racism. The war on drugs was promoted by the bankster controlled puppet politicians in order to deliberately cause all the things which actually did happen. The banksters are the biggest gangsters, which deliberately encouraged more organized crime to flourish, because they are able to profit from every evil thing that they can possibly do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7peMvnqwEo
The FKN Newz on DRUGSMeanwhile the masses of muppets were brainwashed to become mainstream morons, that swallowed the bullshit about "marijuana is bad." Only in the last couple of years has the social tipping point been reached where less than half of the population still believes the biggest bullies' bullshit that "marijuana is bad." However, while I WISH that symbolized a turning of the tide, I tend to still see tsunamis of worse debt slavery, backed by wars based on deceits, worse than the drug wars, ARE STILL HEADED TOWARDS US!
By and large, the "legalize marijuana" movements have been highjacked by mainstream morons, who deliberately do not perceive, or think it is not practical to talk about, the bigger picture, regarding how and why it was possible for marijuana laws to be made and maintained on the basis of nothing but huge legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, so much, for so long.
While there was never any good reasons to believe that "marijuana is bad," or that legalizing marijuana would have any bad effects which were worse than the pot prohibition caused, the real issues are that we live in a society which is almost totally overwhelmed by systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, about almost everything, in which context the enforced frauds found in the financial systems are one of the constant topics discussed in Zero Hedge articles and comments. The only things that are worse than that debt slavery headed towards debt insanity are the wars based on deceits, which are spinning even further out of control, which are another familiar theme of articles and comments published on Zero Hedge.
Hemp Truth is similar to 9/11 Truth. The combinations of slavery and racism morphed into the bogus war on drugs, while that prepared the way towards the bogus war on terror.
There are profoundly important chronic political problems which are inherent to the nature of life, whose expedient solutions have become what social pyramid systems did through the maximum possible frauds and deceits. Since our society is almost totally dominated by lies backed by violence, it is practically impossible for us to imagine what a society which was not like that could look like! Instead, we are getting faked "legalizations of marijuana," that are neoprohibitionist regimes, which still operate within the same old basic systems of debt slavery, backed by wars based on deceits.
Anyone who believes that "legalizing marijuana" like that, to be taxed and regulated, within the same old systems of debt slavery, backed by wars based on deceits, is a superficial political goofball. Tragically, most of the mainstream marijuana movements are dominated by those kinds of reactionary revolutionaries, who were interested in making money from marijuana, while they were never interested in deeper understanding of the monetary and taxation systems themselves.
"Legalizing marijuana" back into the established political economy tends to only replace legal cartels for the illegal cartels. It tends to enable the same kinds of assholes with the most money to make more money from marijuana. It does nothing about the basic problem that the money laws are like the marijuana laws, namely legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, except on an astronomically bigger scale.
In my personal view, it is tragic to see the radicalizing potential of Hemp Truth being dead-ended into bullshit "marijuana legalization." Furthermore, it is inside of that context where the "Bastion of Liberalism" would legislate "Marijuana for the Poor."
Um, no. Racism is hardwired into our biology; if anything the teachings of Darwin rationalized it.
Stop viewing the whole world through pot-colored, American-made, lenses.
I believe that the correct view of the Western versions of classical slavery started as ways to make money from sugar. My version of that history was as I stated, according to the studies that I have done, as confirmed by other people I know that have studied it more.
However, I would agree that throughout the human history of Neolithic Civilization, the economics of slavery was extremely common. I believe that the first rule of ideology is that people rationalized the ways that they made a living, including through slavery systems, which were fantastically profitable in the short-term to the slave masters.
The modern world's economic systems are sophisticated forms of slavery, promoted by the State Religion priest/economists. That was culturally created, although human biology allows that to happen.
That's classic. Oddly enough, I don't hate the idea.
Per Drudge. Eric Holder, we should waterboard your ass. Then bath you in honey and string you up by your ankles. Set a 1000 red ants up the tree.
Eric, you should be in jail for Mexico gun running taxpayer scam. Fuck off on that poor pathetic niger in the White House.
Political correctness will begin by water boarding your ass. Phase 2, read above. The Race card comes from the faggots in Israel.
The ones who sucks little children's dicks and run the Main Stream Media.
Don't these assholes know it's already free---just throw some seeds in a ditch--fucking beyond belief--
How come that never works for me?
what happened to just say no ? ARFKM? Free weed for low income ? Fuck me running backwards.
The parasites are in charge now
It used to be that the top predators were in charge. However, they were so successful at reducing their prey to become incompetent political idiots, which put up no effective resistance, that then those top predators degenerated into parasites. Nothing fails like too much success!
Some of you folks seem to be missing the point. The people of California voted, by ballot, to legalize medical marijuana. That is, they rejected the oppressive, racist, prohibitionist policies of Harry Anslinger and the 30s in favor of freedom and the individual rights of California residents.
Now, because these same exact people want to confer MEDICAL (not recreational) benefits on poor people, somehow these voters are what – brainwashing themselves? By bucking their federal oppressors? By giving LAPD fewer reasons to brutalize minorities? By providing medical coverage to people in need?
Maybe it's time some of you folks figure out who the ones being brainwashed really are.
I really don't think brainwashing is necessary if properly "medicated".
And the poor brutalized minorities. They are all in jail for smoking a joint. The fact that Hispanics are three times more involved in violent crime and blacks about seven times more inclined than the white population, obviously points out their racist inspired repression. If they had only had a joint, maybe their violent tendencies would have been dulled and their desire of blood and mayhem could have been replaced with Cheetos.
I never understood that so much violence is directly the outgrowth of jonesing for a joint.
So lets all light one up in solidarity. I'm sure Big Brother would never take advantage of us while we are all "recreational", as they have never sought to use or manipulate any of the weak and simple minded...not at all.
do you ever pull your head out of your ass long enough to see what oxygen will actually do for your brain?
Don't be a stupid cunt trying to parallel Alcohol prohibition to smoking weed. What next? Cocaine and Heroine?
Lotta stupid here. He never tried to parallel prohibition of weed and alcohol, but it is an apt comparison if he did you moron.
I love coke and I love empowered women, so, yes.
Have another beer genius.
I don't like beer. You try again later after your coke high has marginalized.
Sigh... there's always one or two of you crazies still out there. Please, do tell -- what is it about marijuana that you find comparable to heroin and cocaine? If your response includes the phrase "gateway drug," I simply won't respond.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha,
No.
Hmm I don't know if they're "masquerading" as anything... certainly, there's a contingent of people who are afraid to admit they voted for Bush... twice. People are pretty bitter about their perception of having been "betrayed" by the Bush administration. Otherwise, I generally find this site to be pretty good about bringing useful information to your attention, especially information that isn't broadcast in the MSM. But sometimes, like here, the articles can just downright suck.
I can't stand it when people say "it's all Bush's fault," as if Obama isn't a criminal in his own right. Likewise, I can't stand it when people interpret every single goddamn piece of news as evidence of some perceived failure of Obama. Newsflash, folks: Obama would love to sick his DEA hounds with that ratshit DEA chief on every marijuana retail establishment in the country, and would gladly do so if he could do it without pissing off 70% of his base.
Actually the product itself is merely the football in this destructive game we are forced to watch; at the game it's the players people are interested in.
If it weren't this, it would have to be something else or they would invent something- maybe a soccer ball.
Prohibitionists who are driven to control the thoughts of others vs. free thinkers.. same as it's always been.
..the most dangerous man to the state... and all that other nonsense Mencken wrote about.
Dude,
It's a fucking drug, ok? Drugs don't make the world a better place. They voted by ballot to legalize it - OK, whatever. That just tells me California is not a place I take advice on social values from - after all it's where six year olds are given training on gender diversity and asked to choose what gender they want to be.
If you think the medically needy are the only ones visiting dispensaries, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you. Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together and a bit of motivation can weasel his/her way into a script.
I don't give a shit about medical marijuana.
But pretty much entire commuities are obviously "disabled" and need it. Who knew...
They can wake n' bake, sit on the couch, and watch the paint peel on the walls.
Life is hard, it's even harder when you are broke and stupid.
That's why it's called "dope".
Someone is going to do a drive by shooting on your sorry ass. You are the drug pushing filth in this country. A dead drug dealer is one less libreral to fuck up our society.
I agree. Killing adults who supply other consenting adults is the adult thing to do.
And your Plan is to get drunk, abuse your wife , sexually assault your children and pass out?
Atomizer......when you die you will go back to basic atoms........hope you don't get a chance to breed. Go back in your hole and drink your daily fifth.
So what do you enlightened, hipsters call it? Is dope not politically correct, is it offensive?
Obviously another casualty of truth. If any word summed up pot, "dope" was it.
If anything, the strength of today's dope is 10-15x the woodstock shit.
So yes....another term is obviously needed.
Retard is taken by the medical community. Stoner is taken by potheads already.....is that an outdated (albeit real) term as well?
I am open to alternative suggestions to "dope".
When you put down the bong, enlighten us old timers.
First off, I'm a hippie.
I could give a smelly cunt what is politically correct, my problem with the use of the term dope to refer to marijuana is the same problem I have with MSM calling any pill ecstacy. Dope is slang for heroin, it is simply confusing to use the same terminology for two completely different drugs. As I said, dope is only used by old people who heard it on the teevee from some talking head confusing you with ease.
Same thing happened with MDMA, aka ecstacy. TPTB saw its rise in popularity and its potential to decuntify our society (as well as treat anxiety, depression and war veterans suffering PTSD), so they went into damage control. MSM began to call any pill or 'party drug' ecstacy, thereby confusing the beauty of MDMA with a plethora of other drugs - some not as beautiful. So when someone dies using a harmful drug, it is reported as an ecstacy death.
This is purposeful ambiguity designed to keep idiots like you afraid of others exercising their free will.
Yes, sorry to my paying customers.
I'm being forced to give away 2% of my sales for free, and you all get to pay for it.
Thanks for your business!
Yes, sorry to my paying customers.
I'm being forced to give away 2% of my sales for free, and you all get to pay for it.
Thanks for your business!
Dear Customers,
I'm being forced by law to give away my inventory and now you get to pay for it.
Sorry, prices just went up.
Thanks for your business!
What I want to know, is there anyway this can be applied to the "its for the children" theme?
FINALLY. The workers paradise has arrived!
I have to say it.
Just throw some seeds on the ground.
Berkeley is one serious faggot hangout...
Perhaps then zerohedge members should arrange a dance there, considering so many of us are closeted republifags.
"Dope will get you through times of no money better then money will get you through times of no dope".
FB
Ask any hunter why they put out corn in the winter for deer. Its not to be nice. Its about control.
If the sick and dieing get some corn, fine but its not the reason for the corn.
I love it when they just mandate that someone has to give free shit to someone else. Jesus isn't there a constitutional lawyer in the house? Oh right...