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Israel v. Gaza: The Big Picture
Preface: What is needed is a cease-fire on ALL sides, as the UN Security Council is demanding ..
Americans only get filtered news from the mainstream media. So here’s the big picture:
By the way, here's a little history you never learned from MSNBCNNABCCBSFOX news:
Postscript: Former Israeli Minister: Calling people who criticize Israeli policy “anti-semitic. It’s a trick … we always use it”
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Yiddish is written with a fully vocalized alphabet based on the Hebrew script and ancient Hebrews are direct decendents of Sumerians. Sumarian DNA is available to match to the Askenazi, unless you want circular results.
Escapedgoat, I guess you would not have asked the question, unless you already were aware of the probable answers, but nevertheless, here are some links:
http://www.khazaria.com/
At 2 minutes into Part 4 of this series on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx00Q_u8SbM
that video asserts that 92% of so-called "Jews" are the descendants of the Khazar people that adopted that rule book religion developed in an earlier time. However, the percentage number is open to quite a lot of reasonable debate!
As has been said by everyone else who studies this: Zionism is NOT really a 'race,' nor even a 'religion.' Zionism is an organized crime gang whose members are mostly not genetically Jews, but rather converted to that religion, after which they promoted themselves as being genetically Jews. Those members follow a "religion" which were the rules of their gang. Their deceits regarding the meaning of being "Jewish" and that they are somehow "Jewish" appear to be just more aspects of their well-developed systems of deceits.
In my view, the word "Jew" is so misleading as to be worse than useless. Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews. Furthermore, I do not care that much about what people may or may not believe about things which can never been proven to be true or false. However, I do care about people who actually operate in the real world as organized criminals, using lies backed by violence, sufficiently to take control over governments, to thereby become systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence. Those are the kinds of "Zionists" that I am forced to care about!
It is the culture that became insane. Genetically, there is little difference between the small percentage of people who are genetically "Semitic," or "Jews" which were always so, rather than much later converts.
http://www.rense.com/general89/mid.htm
"Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East share a very similar gene pool and must be considered closely related and not genetically separate, ... Rivalry between the two races is therefore based 'in cultural and religious, but not in genetic differences.'"
It is the insanity of culture, based on historical triumphs of lies, backed by forces, that was the real problem. The human species is one species. There are no fundamental dichotomies. However, conflicts have generated psychosis. The worst fanatics have tended to be selected to prevail, by the ways that successful warfare depended upon deceits. Of course, the best organized crime gangs are the most deceitful about themselves, and misrepresent who they are. Their short-term success is what endangers us all now! The runaway insanity of Neolithic Civilization is THE PROBLEM!
I rather liked this video, which attempted to trace the diverse roots of the best organized gangs of criminals, that have most dominated the social pyramid systems:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzdomBX8U0w
UROKO
The intertwining of the evolution of history was at least two levels of helical relationships, operating through nested toroidal vortices. (The social pyramid systems themselves are actually toriodal votices.) ... DNA and neural networks, and all the proteins dancing between those two energy domains, making models of the world, within the human technological vortices, controlling behavior. Different strands of genetics and culture did make up the reality of all the humans that evolved to fill the human ecology niches of the "top carnivores," or the men that prey on men, not so much literally cannibals, but rather through the techniques of "human farming" or a range of relatively sophisticated slavery systems. There were real histories, that rode along on top and via other strands of human histories. Different organized crime gangs, competing and cooperating, throughout human history. As above, so below. As within, so without. And, the lies are different at every level.
The more one learns about these things, of course, the more complicated they may become, and the less able one is to make equally sweeping generalizations that are not somewhat over-simplified. But nevertheless, it seems clear how the sociocultural systems, that go back to their evolution in "Babylon," are the ones that still dominate the world TODAY! The genetics of that has been greatly hybridized, so that the vast majority of "Jews" may not be "Jews." However, the basic principles & methods of organized crime have flourished through the globalized Neolithic social pyramid system developments! Those who, both genetically and culturally, share in the values of the 'top carnivores' in the human ecology and political economy ARE CONTROLLING THE WORLD! (Although, I now feel that they have lost control over the systems that they originally made and maintained, and that, actually, the world is going out of control, in ways which are just not yet blatantly obvious enough to see. Furthermore, I now feel that those who used to be the top predators have been degenerating to become more like parasites.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRtc0XaA5k0
Jewish DNA - Genetic Research and The Origins of the Jewish People
Since the genetic truth about "Jews" is so politically charged, propaganda that surrounds that question is serious, and 'truth' is extremely difficult to find. That presentation says that ONLY 5% to 10% of "Jews" were Khazarians, NOT 90%, as many others have stated. Using an Internet search engine, one can find lots of links that make very different claims. The genetic techniques can follow the paternal DNA, through the Y line, and maternal DNA by mitochondria. The conclusions of that presentation are the Y chromosome of the "Jewish" lines of ruling classes went more through Rome, than through the Khazars. ... Meanwhile, it seems unequivocal that the male lines of "Jews," in Europe, are the result of extensive out-breeding between European women as wives of "Jewish" men, but that it is not clear to what degree those either Christian and/or Pagan women official converted to be "Jews" when married? Anyway, IF that presentation of the genetic research can be believed in, then the biological and social facts were of course more complicated than previous over-simplifications.
For more overall context in which to attempt to assess the assertions regarding the genetics of "Jews," here are a couple of comparisons, and more about the BIGGER BACKGROUND SCIENCE:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7308102.stm
"Results from a genetic study of Latin America suggest most Latin Americans are descended from European men and Native American or African women. ... the majority of Latin Americans can trace their origins some 13 generations back to the time of the Conquistadors. The genes suggest most are a product of a match between a European male settler and a Native American or African woman. This supports the historical argument that European colonizers killed off many of the native men and had sex with native women or with African slaves." Clearly, in Latin America, the majority of people could be said to be the descendents of the rape of the native women by the European invaders. Therefore, the genetic studies of the Y chromosome line would yield extremely different results than the study of the X chromosome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgqjLMESS78
The Truth About British DNA Ancestry
In that case, the opposite appears to have happened, than in the Latin American case. Despite all of the waves of conquest by invaders into the British Isles, during its history, which made huge political changes, analysis of the Y chromosome of the men in Britain indicated that more than half of them were still Celts. It is speculated that as much as 10% of the original British genetics goes back to the Picts, who lived there, surviving at the tip of the Island, even through the Ice Age.
Anyway, the point is that different results can be gleaned from human genetic research, depending upon how one does that!
I generally believe that genetic research now shows that people are 99.7% genetically the same, not 99.9%, as was widely reported by mass media. Here is some more of the basic science behind those sorts of claims, and some more background videos about what this kind of science about genetics is supposed to be discovering (although I think it is over-confidently stated to be more certain than it should be):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDknzZ9b6rg
9 - Human Ancestry Made Easyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzAsXRq0XcQ
The Real Eve Discovery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJDrCQXi0mU
The Search For Scientific Adam
Both of those could also be put in this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKP9ru_G5vk
New History of Humanity - Astounding Scientific DiscoveriesBUT, REALLY, WHO KNOWS ???
Some of the basic science is supposed to have been "settled," but may still be profoundly wrong? I am not willing to totally discount the more fanciful notions that, somehow, something extraterrestrial has been somewhat fiddling with human evolution. I have NO first hand knowledge, of course, but nevertheless, I can not completely discount that as being impossible ...
The metaphorical truths about the people who act like the "top carnivores" in the context of human ecology blend into the literal truth, or rather, even the most sincere effort at discovering more literal truth still ends up finally being only metaphorical.
radical i've always loved your death controls shit. but you cannot watch a single youtube video as an authoritative source on the 2000+ year history of jewish folks. i'm jewish and i've spent a lot of time reading and that khazar shit is not really true and to the extent some of it is, it's an extremely small piece of reality that is not significant.
whoever WANTS TO BE JEWISH IS JEWISH. SAME WITH CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM. many people have married in , or been converted and went with the flow. judaism FAR LESS SO THAN ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY JUST BECAUSE OF HISTORICAL REALITIES, BUT ALSO BECASUE JUDAISM HAS BEEN realtively ANTI-CONVERSION for a long long time.
anyone telling you 'talmudic' jews aren't jews, they are basically either morons or working for anti-semites or anti-semites. other bullshit like khazarian nonsense is also typical crap spread by anti-semites.
why don't you do some research into history on your own. read some books, find out how things worked and you will realize what i say is true.
teslaberry, as my post above indicated, I attempted to do some research ... However, obviously, it is impossible for me to ever obtain enough first-hand knowledge about this to become confident. Instead, I can only sift through other sources of information. As I said, they tend to severely contradict each other.
But nevertheless, it seems obviously STRANGE to me that anybody had a "right" to dispossess the Palestinian people. It looks to me that that was obviously just possible because lies backed by violence WORKS, at least in the short-term.
The European invaders into North America did not have any more of a "right" to rob the entire continent from people who had lived there for thousands of year. They simply did, because they could, and nobody else could stop them.
Israel looks like a racist, apartheid state to me, because, people defining themselves as "Jews" promoted the Zionist notions that they could move in, and then gradually push the people who used to live there out.
Of course, throughout history, that has happened again and again, in many, many different places. Those who are the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, stake claims and enforce those with coercion. Israel is only relatively unique in that being done AFTER the development of weapons of mass destruction, which raises profound issues about whether that kind of historical enforced frauds will continue working, or rather, destroy itself, eventually ???
Anyway, my other comments on this article here, provide more of my overview about the nature of this problem, which is that I believe everybody has become criminally insane, because nobody has actually changed in ways that deal with weapons of mass destruction, except through being MAD, with Israel being one of the most MAD!
Wow, I count at least 10 lies and unproven assertions there. Well done, Hasbara.
Go call your fat girlfriend Hasbara. Speaking of unproven assertions...
Any "cease-fire" would do nothing about the underlying problems. (The UN was set up as a forum for professional liars and immaculate hypocrites to promote their bullshit about impossible ideals, which actually make the opposite happen in the real world, which is why it mostly makes useless resolutions.)
When one looks at the underlying problems, there appear NO feasible solutions, other than death insanities, because there are NO ways to agree upon better death controls. Unless "peace processes" were to include realistic human, industrial, and natural ecology factors, then they must necessarily be frauds, with any "cease-fire" being nothing but a delay before the underlying pressures erupt again.
Within the last couple of hundred years or so, the Zionists appear to have become the best organized gang of criminals, who were able to capture effective control over the Anglo-American world. Certainly, within the previous several decades, the Zionists have been able to capture control over the American government. The main means were through the feedback loops in all aspects of the funding of the political processes, which have automatically reinforced themselves. In my view, Crazy Christians & Zionists are currently dominating North American politics. However, that does NOT mean that I agree with Islam, because that too is just another crazy organized crime gang.
When it comes to "Israel v. Gaza: The Big Picture" I find that I agree with what George Washington has written above in this article. However, as always, what I tend to disagree with are the things which he does not say. Despite the Zionists invading Palestine at an accelerating rate, and basically doing to the Palestinians what the European Invasion into North America did to the natives there during the previous five hundred years, the overall surrounding demographics in that area of the Middle East are nothing like those in North America, regarding the relative size and reproduction rates of the displaced people.
Here are a links to a couple of videos, whose presumptions and conclusions I do NOT agree with, but which still point out the basic FACTUAL problems:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMGuYjt6CP8
UK Jewish MP:
Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza
At about 4:49, the point is made that the time would come when the Muslims will outnumber the Jews, throughout that region of the world, even more than they already do!
THE PROBLEM IS MUSLIMS POPULATIONS TEND TO BE GROWING EXPONENTIALLY, AND ANY CULTURAL GROUP THAT IS GROWING EXPONENTIALLY IS DECLARING WAR UPON ALL ITS GLOBAL NEIGHBOURS.
Continued exponential growth MUST result in some suicidal genocides and/or democides. Without alternative death controls, then genocides and democides are quite necessary or otherwise unavoidable. Despite that Gaza has practically become one large prison camp, the population of Gaza has nevertheless been growing at some exponential rates. An exact exponent there does not matter that much. ANY doubling forever is absolutely impossible! If Muslims do not go through demographic transitions, then their population will continue to insanely double in size. Of course, the same applies to every other population whose culture is driving it to continue exponential growth. (Various statistical averages regarding those phenomena tend to be very misleading.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU
Muslim Demographics
7.5 minutes video about relative reproduction rates. Nothing new: basically impossible problems to solve, unless the Whole World goes through some integrated demographic changes, which would require a series of political miracles.
Oversimplified summary of the situation:
Women who have less than 2 children are committing suicide & women who have more than 2 are declaring war on neighbours.
OVERALL, THE RICHER ARE COMMITTING SUICIDE, WHILE THE POORER ARE DECLARING WAR ON THE RICHER.
(Meanwhile, the richest of the rich are covertly preparing to mass murder most of the human population, as their kind of criminally insane "solution" to those problems.)
Islamic populations tend to be declaring war on everyone else. Hispanics are clearly another group seriously doing that. All populations that are exponentially growing are declaring war against everyone else! On a finite planet, where the ability to continue to strip-mine its natural resources is reaching the tipping points of diminishing returns, while there is practically NOTHING in the politics of the biggest organized crime gangs, that dominate the world now, that respects longer term evolutionary ecology principles, we are collectively headed towards PEAK INSANITIES.
In that context, the Middle East was where the Neolithic style of civilization, based on backing up lies with violence, that made social pyramid systems that were able to conquer the rest of the world, and force the rest of the world to become assimilated into those systems of organized lies, operating robberies, and is still the place where social psychoses are the most devolved, there appear NO good alternatives which have any significant public presence, because each respective group had its own internal process of dishonesty backed by violence to select for its own "leaders" to become the most criminally insane representatives of that group of criminally insane people.
Since the history of successful warfare was based on deceit, and therefore, our actual death controls are done through the maximum possible deceits, it appears completely impossible for there to ever be any better political solutions to chronic problems, through the world's dominant organized crime gangs negotiating a genuinely better peace process that included all the necessary factors regarding human, industrial and natural ecologies. Instead, the history of successful warfare based on deceits was able to become the foundation of political economy based on frauds, with the resultant positive feedbacks of the best organized gangs of criminals in their respective domains becoming more wealthy and powerful groups, able to thereby dominate the overall society through which they were able to operate.
FOR SURE, THE UNITED NATIONS WAS PROMOTED BY THE BANKSTERS, AND IS THEREFORE A TOTALLY BULLSHIT BASED ORGANIZATION, PROMOTING FALSE FUNDAMENTAL DICHOTOMIES AND IMPOSSIBLE IDEALS. THERE HARDLY ANY POINT IN CALLING FOR ANY "CEASE-FIRE" AS LONG AS THE UNDERLYING PROBLEMS AUTOMATICALLY ARE GETTING WORSE, FASTER!
Within relatively recent historical times, the Anglo-American (Zionist) Empire became the best organized gang of criminals, within the overall context that governments were the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals. However, NONE of the rival organized crime gangs, in the various forms of countries, corporations, or churches, etc., are any better.
Indeed, the deeper background to the "Israel v. Gaza: The Big Picture" IS THAT THEY ARE BOTH CRIMINALLY INSANE! The whole world, as currently dominated by Neolithic Civilization, has become criminally insane, and that is headed towards Peak Insanities, along with Peak Everything Else, to the degree that it is clearly a waste of time to bother to point that out, because everyone involved that matters is far too criminally insane to reason with!
I WISH that I could simply ignore this whole situation, however, the importance of the future of Neolithic Civilization, now manifesting where the most globally dominate versions first began, forces me to focus attention upon these issues, where the most criminally insane groups are destroying each other more and more, while they have become so trapped within those vicious spirals that there appear no other better resolutions to those problems, than PEAK INSANITIES, in the form of death insanities, because the actual death controls have been selected so much, for so long, to be done through the maximum possible deceits, that it is practically impossible to have any saner scientific discussions about those problems.
Even the Egyptian press is now cheering on the Israelis as they are attacking HAMAS/Muslin Brotherhood forces in Gaza.
http://tinyurl.com/kh4dbjm
“Bless you (Israeli Prime Minister) Netanyahu, may Allah make a lot of people like you to destroy Hamas, the base of corruption, treachery and being an agent for the (Muslim) Brotherhood. By Allah, whoever tells me "forbidden (to say this)", I don't know what I'll do.”'Even' the Egyptian press? The new Egyptian junta is propped up by the US military... and US foreign policy was captured by zionists long ago.
You're confused BigJim. The US installed the Muslim Brotherhood several years ago who in turn got kicked out of the old military junta. This group has been cozying up to Russia big time just like the old days before Sadat. I won't argue about the Zionist influence on US foreign policy but things have been changing lately and you are behind the times.
I'd be interested to hear why you believe this. Has not the US decided that the coup was actually not a coup, so they could carry on supplying Egypt's new rulers with aid and weapons? Do you think if Egypt opened up Rafah this would have been the case?
"We are gawdz chozen peeple!" = "how dare you question the master race"
While working in Hollywood, years ago, I asked my Jewsih girlfriend, "Why do so many rich and powerful Jewish people drive Mercedes Benzos? The Benz was Adolf Hitler's staff car."
She hemmed and hawed but never answered me. Ten years later, Sarah Silverman asked the same question in her stand up comedy skit.
Images for adolf hitler's mercedes benz
It's pure idiocy to conclude that Jews shouldn't drive Benzs because Hitler did. They may as well not be vegetarians because Hitler was too. Right?
many refuse to . you're an anti-semite who likes to start talking about nonsense sweeping generalzation about jews, black, etc....
every group to you is defined by a group attribute. all groups outside your own are negative attributes and your own group is the lone group defined by positive attributes.
your group , a group defined by hatemongering , will lose in the end.
Do you tend to jump to conclusions?
It just looks like mother nature is simply not going to allow israel to have that area. Think African rift.
There are many factors that could come into play here. Many people do not seem to realize that Syria itself has a total of five volcanos. The Golan Heights itself is a volcano. It stands 1197 meters high and last erupted during the Holcene era. Al Safa stands 979 meters high and last erupted in 1850 AD. Jabal ad Druze stands 1803 meters high and last erupted during the holocene era. Sharat Kovakab stands 534 meters high and last erupted also during the holocene era. Shahba stands 845 meters high and last erupted in 2670 BC. A smaller unnamed volcano erupted in 1222 AD. Arabian_Plate They are now drilling for gas on the Golan Heights.
There is also a stratovolcano, strombolian type in the Southern Red Sea region of Eritrea and it erupted about a year ago to a small degree. It is massive.
There is more, much more. The entire area is composed of three tectonic plates much like the area around Japan where we saw the Fukushima tidal wave wreck a nuclear power plant and it is most likely only the beginning. The Arabian, African and Indian plates having been moving northward for a very long time where they collide with the Eurasian plate forming the Pyrenees. They cross into southern Europe, Iran, the Himalayas and Southeast Asia.
The Arabian plate is mostly the Arabian peninsula and it cuts directly through the Dead Sea, Palestine/Israel. There is also what is known as the African Plate or Dead Sea Transform and it runs along the Dead Sea. The pressure between the Arabian Plate and the Eurasian is pushing up the Zagros Mountains of Iran. In short, anything can happen and this includes tsunamis, earthquakes and volcanos, in a very turbulent neighborhood.
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2011/12/30/new-volcanic-island-emerged-...
90% of Jewish people are warm & wonderful. The rest are sociopaths and wield power.
The same ratio applies to Christians, Moslems, Mormons, Starbelly Sneetches, etc.
Sociopaths and their psychopath leaders always give humans a bad name.
Humanoids are both predictable and unpredictable. Violent and gentle. Warm-hearted and warlike. Rule One: Never confront a human if possible. Observe at a distance. Send a probe, drone, or elusive orb, if need be. Earthlings used to call these fast-moving orbs Foo-Fighters during their last episode of concerted violence, as they refer to World War II. Observe humans as human scientists observe apes or ants. Just as ants never suspect human scientists could possess the speed of sound or hypersonic speed, so too humans never suspect we possess the speed of hyper-light.
Why Earth Is ET's Top Rated Reality Show |Your 90% figure is not fair to about 9% of the Jews. For the last percent, I have no problem with your analysis. However you should understand that about one percent of every group are sociopaths.
the big picture is which side are you on?
do you want to destroy all of israel like hamas, who plan to kill as many jews as possible to take control over the territory of ISRAEL , NOT PALESTINE.
or are you ok with the existential existence of israel as a territory.
The truth has only one side: the stolen territory was not Israel before 1948 unless you go so far back into the history of civilization you see a brief kingdom that turned to dust thousands of years ago & has no claim on current territory.
I don't see you demanding the entire continent of North America be returned to its native people & ensuring they all have a right of return which displaces anyone else without quesetion and using any amount of violence they desire.
wait, wait, wait. I'm not taking Israels side, but it IS their terrirory. That's the bad part of losing wars, the winners divvy up the spoils, and Britain did what the hell they wanted to since they won and crushed the Ottomans. You win the war, you make the rules, that's how history works. No bitching allowed. Settling land far outside their given borders is a different story.
There was no war to fight until they were PLACED THERE by external forces. Israel is a military extension of the USA & without jets, weapons, provided by the USA there'd be no war to win, not foot-hold to invade from. If the Arabs around & in Palestine got the same military hardware from the USA that was delivered to the invading Israel force they'd have won the war(s).
This is no excuse. Morally it's a negative: it means we the world are actually obligated to bomb Israel with all our weapons to even it out since we, the world external to Palestine, permitted the influx of weapons to back Israel the invading force.
It's a moral obligation to use airstrikes on Israel until the invaders leave.
Israel HAS NO BORDERS. It is a military outpost of the USA. The USA itself is also collapsing.
In 20 years there may be no such thing as Israel.
In 100 years there will certainly be no such thing as America.
No bitching allowed?
Clearly you don't understand war.
When you are the invader and those you tried to kill survive to the next generation, it is their right to murder every child, every soldier, and scorch the Earth until the invader is burned off for good, no matter how long it takes, and that's precisely what will happen unless the trans-Khazars posing as jews actually put the genocide right to 100%.
-1,000: False Dichotomy!
Do you think THESE people want Israel to be destroyed:
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I support the existence of Israel, and the SAFETY and HUMAN TREATEMENT of Palestinians.
GWB said" You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists".
Um ... Opposing the STUPID Iraq war and the STUPID nsa mass surveillance means I LOVE AND SUPPORT AMERICA ... and don't want her to be flushed down the toilet as she has because of bad government policy.
gw how do you propose that israel defend herself then?
she has borders. please, go ahead and tell me about a million false flags and dynamics that exist to point out how corrupt everyone is.
yes yes, everything is fucked and corrupt we know. but your criticism rise to the point of being A TRUE DICHOTOMY WHEN YOU DON'T STATE YOUR RED LINES. WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE ISRAEL DO AND WHEN WILL YOU DECLARE THAT ISRAEL IS WITHIN IT'S OWN BOUNDARIES OF REASONABLE BEHAVIOR?
i am surprised at least that you dont' accuse israel of mass genocide like all the other anti-semites. or maybe you do...i dunno .
How do you explain the #1 target for IDF killsquads are also SEMITES? Semite and "Jew" are NOT identical words.
This stolen territory has no border: Palestine has a real border but Israel merely has camp walls for slave-camps, death-camps, prison-camps.
the other anti-semites.
You fucking pathetic liar. Being anti-Zionist does not equal being anti-Jew.
And, given that the average Palestinian has more claim to call himself a 'semite' than yer average Israeli, supporting the Palestinians' claims should be considered Philosemitic if anything.
palestine is not israel's iraq.
israel has no oil interests in the west bank. they are not the united states.
iraq's mysteriously non-existent WMD are not hamas's rockets. those rockets are real , my sister picked up a piece of one of those rockets in her front yard in tel aviv. one that had luckily not hit her head as it fell from the sky subsequent to an iron dome interception.
israel has existential problems whether you like it or not. that's the game.
america can always retreat behind the twin sisters of the pacific and atlantic. israel cannot.
you cannot really imagine what it's like to live in north jersey with pensylvania manhattan and philly being hostile territories. that is what israel is like. try a visit. you might like it.
israel has existential problems whether you like it or not. that's the game.
Yes, indeed it does - because most of its 'citizens' are descended from a bunch of European carpetbaggers who occupy stolen land.
And, as has been catalogued elsewhere ad nauseum, most of the 'provocations' that break the ceasefires have been initiated by Israel, not Hamas. And let's not forget that Israel's blockade is an act of war in itself.
Hamas is responding to Israel's deadly airstrikes the only way it can - with pathetic home-made rockets, the vast majority of which land in fields or get destroyed by US taxpayer-funded Iron Dome.
Your sister doesn't like the Palestinians' pathetic attempts to strike back at the people who stole their land? Fine - let her return to New York or Poland or wherever the fuck her immediate ancestors came from. Cause there's -what? - only 5% chance her people were in Palestine 100 years ago... unlike the Palestinians whose land you stole with the help of terrorism and murder.
No. It really is as simple as the original point that was made. Either you support Israel's right to the land or you support the Arab's right to drive Israel from the land. No matter which side you pick, you should fight to the best of your ability to destroy those who would destroy you.
It is nothing more complicated than that.
Hamas is responding to Israel's deadly airstrikes the only way it can - with pathetic home-made rockets
You understand don't you that, if we accept your logic contained in that statement, we must claim that Hamas will stop shooting those pathetic home-made rockets at Israel shortly after Israel stops firing rockets at Gaza. No more rockets shot by Israel at Gaza, no more need for Gaza to shoot rockets at Israel.
Your statement turns the obvious on its head: Israel is bombing Gaza in response to all the rockets that have already been fired at Israel from Gaza.
Who gives a shit. Fight your own war, chosen person,,,God is on your side, remember. America's sons and money need not be spent on israels benefit...strategic ally...a cold war fucking farce. Reaptriate yourself to your true loyalty...your joo homeland. GL
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Indeed. Tutsis will be butchering Zulus by the hundreds of thousands, but when Israel more or less legitimately responds to cold blooded murder, the Neo Nazis come out of their woodwork and cry "war cimes", "genocide" and "Khazars".
"Former Israeli Minister: Calling people who criticize Israeli policy “anti-semitic. It’s a trick … we always use it”
Question 1: Are Ashkenazi Jews Semites?
Question 2: Why do so many so-called Semitic Jews in Hollywood/New York want to boink goyim chicks? Isn't that being anti-Semitic?
Question 3: Is it anti-Semitic for a Jewish dude to change his perfectly good Judical name to a stock goyim name? Chuck Lorre was born Charles Levine. Be Proud of your name, even if it hard to pronounce, like Nudelman.
Before any Jewish person calls me anti this or that, maybe they need to look in the muthafucking mirror.
Alex CoJones, Tribe member of the Humming Race
Ashkenazi Jews -I keep seeing this question of the Ashkenazi - I can only assume that you are not a geneticist nor hebrew scholar. Wondering why no objective criticism ensues to this theory, unless anti-jew sentiment really does exist and you indeed want to remove all vestiges from the land of palestine. we can talk motivation after
BRAVO George +1000
Founding Israel was a huge mistake, it only re-initiated the Crusades.
And that is the really big picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
that's like saying ww2 was a big mistake and that killing 6 million jews across europe was a mistake and thus really we should undo it.
fuck yourselves you haters. jews built israel , they fought for it, they will keep it.
i dont' like the u.s. oil presence in the middle east any more than you. but to equate everything evil in the united states with the fault of israel is historical nonsense.
read your u.s. history. the u.s. was involved in wars abroad since the 1880's. ww1, ww2 as well. korean war, vietname war .
wait, let me guess, those were all israel's fault? or stalin was a jew and the jews are the communists, AND the capitalist bankers.
the sweeping generalizatoin that jews are the cause of everyone's problems adn that zionism = the federal reserve is nonsense.
the fed existed before israel existed. you don't like jews? fine. but you cannot pretend you're not being a fucking anti-semite by laying all your problems at the feet of jewish people's.
Taking Palestine & purging it of its people is an ongoing genocide. Your support of Israel is equal to supporting Hitler.
Calling opponents jew-haters in 2014 is like calling all of US aryan-haters in 1942.
Anti-semite? Oh please.
Israel was established to recapture Jerusalem for the West.
Jews had plenty of places to live, including the U.S.A.
It was STUPID to put a Jewish state in the M.E.
STUPID. And has nothing to do with Jews.
It's the Crusades all over again.
Never ended I suppose.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
4.29 minutes explaining another concept.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBHTdvMhSL4
Why Israel was created
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4TTmOJ4I8
Who are the Rot schilds? A short clip
Another perspective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8kTa9UkpXo (10 min) (Israel belongs to the Rothschilds) Who began, according to Will Durant in Story of Civilization, as a money changer of different currencies, calculating their exchange rate.
One of the great mysteries of Zero Hedge is how it has become so vehemently anti-Israel and furthermore, of the belief that Jews are somehow the cause of all the world's problems. At this point, it's not even worth arguing because they are so far removed from reality there is no pulling them out.
The hope at this point is that Israel can end the conflict in the near future, eliminate the terrorist group known as Hamas, and restore peace to the region surrounding and including Israel, although I'd be far too naive to believe it will actually happen anytime soon, especially when so many Americans (including of course Obama, not just ZH commenters) inexplicably support the terrorists in this conflict.
I think you'll find that the same people who are, as you say, "anti-Israel", are also against US imperialism ... and naked aggression in general. The mystery to ME is how supporters of Israel are so insanely blind to the attrocious crap - the inhuman bullshit - they do on a daily basis to all the countries and people around them - Palestine in particular - all in the name of "defense" (huh...doesn't that sound familiar). How can you be "confused" as to why they're so hated when they f^%k with everyone's lives and expect some kind of "we-can-do-what-we-want-because-someone-was-mean-to-us-in-the-past" free pass? There is only one first-world country that I can think of where genocide and apartheid occur on a daily basis - yet the pro-Israel crowd is totally blind the hypocrisy of Israel. Injustice to one is injustice to all - no exceptions.
Israel could end the conflict in a moment - but they won't. Zionists aren't peaceful people ... well, not until they've "annexed" all the land and riches they want - and eliminated anyone they consider "inferior." I don't think they're any different than the US elitists (many of whom are Zionists) - but I get pretty sick and tired of them screeching "anti-semite!" or "Nazi!" every time anyone calls them out for what they are.
There are, and have been, some amazing Jewish people - some real warriors for peace and freedom (Aaron Russo, Aaron Schwartz, etc, etc) - but Israel is a Zionist state and true (Torah) Jews don't approve of it any more than we do.
Injustice to one is injustice to all - no exceptions.
Sounds so glorious, but says absolutely nothing.
The entire story of the survival of anyone or any thing is the ability to make distinctions and to discriminate...
... between the animal that is going to eat you versus the animal you want to eat ... between the mushroom that will nourish you versus the mushroom that will kill you if eaten ... between the people you will let across your borders and into your country versus those you do everything in your power to keep out ... between the person who wants to help you produce versus the ones who wish to take what you produce from you by force.
The list goes on - but you get the idea. For too much of life, the rule is destroy or be destroyed.
Anyone who desires to create anything must take a stand against those who would steal or destroy what has been created. That includes those who would create a country. It is true for any country that has ever been formed.
Once you decide to create something, no matter what it is, you must rain injustice on those who wish to steal or destroy what you are creating. There is no other way to be successful. And to pretend that there will be no one wanting to steal or destroy what you create is to set yourself up for failure.
All throughout human history, it has never been a matter of treating everbody the same, or without injustice. It has always been a matter of which side one was on. Once a side is chosen (I'm going to do this), there is no alternative to defending the side you have chosen.
So it is in the current situation between the Zionists and the so-called Palestinians (in Roman times, the entire area, including Israel, was referred to as Palestine). No matter which side you pick, once you have chosen, you must defend yourself against the other side. How discriminatory. How unjust. Yes. That is the way of life. There is no other way to not get eaten by the Tiger.
+1,000
This is crazy nonsense-talk.
ZH is populated by smart people with eyeballs.
Smart people with eyeballs see outright repeated genocide by Israel. IDF soldiers burning & mass-killing children of Palestine.
Historical proof thousands of years old proving this land is not Israel but is Palestine.
To deny this is to drink LSD by the gallon.
Your view depends on convincing everyone else to be dumber than dirt.
You came to the wrong place to sell crazy.
Israel is the terrorist & you are supporting the terrorist!
As long as its your kid serving then.
This is a really stupid article...this is all about the Sinai Penninusla. "Israel" et al is just a play thing for war planners. If Netanyahu had a brain cell left he'd attack Egypt immediately.
"Who's the one with the problem now moron."
attack egypt? are you a fucking moron? the current regime is a continuation of the mubarak regime that has had peace with israel for over 30 years.
dumbass.
Al-Sisi is a Jew. Running Egypt as a puppet of a puppet (via America) didn't give them enough control so they installed a Mossad agent as dictator. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/16/al-sisi-jew/