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"The US Has Only Succeeded In Accelerating Middle East Disintegration"

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Submitted by James H Kunstler of Kunstler.com,

For public consumption, the fatuous haircut-in-search-of-a-brain, a.k.a. Secretary of State John Kerry, hauled out the dog-eared playbook for “negotiating a ceasefire” between the Palestinian Hamas leadership and Israel. Neither side takes him seriously, of course. In this historic moment of Islamic uproar across the entire region, Hamas is just following the larger script: act up and act out.

They would like to catch the momentum of rampaging ISIS next door, but Hamas is not a mobile force of mostly young male psychopaths. They’re stuck in Gaza embedded among their women and children doing what they can to eliminate Israel and replace it with an Islamic state. For the moment that means lobbing rockets from launch sites planted among the homes and institutions of daily life in the densely urbanized Gaza strip.

So far in the current offensive, they’ve launched over 700 missiles at Israel. Some of the rockets, purchased through the world’s arms bazaar from China, are powerful enough to reach Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. But they are poorly-targeted and Israel’s “iron dome” anti-missile system can intercept some of them before they land on anything.

Unlike previous offensives, when Hamas rocketeers could set up mobile Qassam missiles in alleyways or rooftops, and beat it a few minutes after firing, the new larger rockets require sturdier installations. Thus they can be systematically discovered and targeted. Hamas is quite willing to sacrifice the women and children who eat and sleep around their rocket installations for the propaganda value of pretending that they were not deliberately put in harm’s way.

Israel has accepted the reality that Hamas deliberately uses its own people as human shields and has opted to destroy the missile-launch sites in any case, because the alternative is to give Hamas free reign in bombarding Israel. One would think that world opinion would understand this equation. But there is little sympathy for Israel’s predicament, and little appreciation for Hamas’s calculated ruthlessness vis-à-vis its own people.

The birth-rate in Gaza is among the highest in the world. If it is a deliberate result of social policy, it is a cruel bargain for the Palestinians, who are apparently regarded as expendable by the Hamas leadership. In a culture that glorifies suicide bombings, routine human sacrifice must be normal, though to a Western sensibility it seems tragic.

It shapes up as a struggle to the death that will not be impeded by reason, the good intentions of others, or sentimentality. What Israel remembers is that nobody was on the side of its people in 1939 and they’ll be damned to make the same mistake of not fighting back again. This certainly sets up a situation of extreme political danger in the region, but no more now than the ISIS juggernaut, or the larger beef between the two basic branches of Islam, or the fate of the fragile Saud monarchy.

This is not a region of the world than can support large populations of human beings of any religious persuasion, and in the new age of extreme resource limits blind circumstance itself more than personalities or doctrines will determine who gets to inhabit what rockpile.

What’s changed is the perception that the USA has any role to play any longer even in the diplomatic theatrics. The Middle East is disintegrating faster than any polity in historical memory. It appears that, if anything, the USA has only succeeded in accelerating the process wherever we turn our attentions. Since the 1970s, we haven’t felt the ultimate consequence of trouble in that part of the world, which would be an interruption in the oil supply coming out of there.

Back then, there might have been something we could do about it. Now there is nothing we can do but stand on the sidelines and wait. In the meantime, wouldn’t it be a good idea to attend to our own problems, especially the critical need to prepare for American life in a post-oil world?

 

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Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:22 | 4955514 auntiesocial
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excuse me while I dust off my Nobel Peace Prize Trophy...

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:29 | 4955540 john39
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seems like mission accomplished to me...  for all the nulanders out there doing what they so love to do...

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:37 | 4955566 lordylord
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"Only succeeded"? That was their goal.  Let's just say they succeeded.  Why do people keep writing articles about the government's or central bank's unintended consequences.  They are 100% intended.  Let's stop playing this game and call things by their name.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:54 | 4955632 onewayticket2
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a similar facilitation is happing domestically with the destruction of the economy.....and our soveignty.....and political speech.....

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:56 | 4955635 john39
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and our culture... our health...  physical and spiritual.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:12 | 4955690 Oh regional Indian
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I spit on the grave of civilizers past and their modern verison, democratizers....

Fuck civilization, the anti-thesis to life.

Everything civilized "stands" for needs help to stay standing.

There is a ponder worthy metaphor.

The only way civilizers finally broke the eastern masculine's back was with the advent of the gun and now final supremacy by cowardrones.

Deception and cowardice have been the prime tools of warcraft from the west......

Fuck civilization.....

ori

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:21 | 4955751 Hulk
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Well Ori, you hit that one out of the park, couldn't agree with you more...

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 15:32 | 4956500 RichardP
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Wonder how many women agree that civilization sucks. Or don't they count?  Women are just a tad less hardy than men in many ways.  Civilization was created by men, for women.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 02:04 | 4958149 UselessEater
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I ain't shifting to a mud hut for no one.

Do not chuck the baby out with the bath water. People in mud huts are not going to fair any better in the future than us white men and women so it is a false mis-directed argument, NOW more than ever we plebs are on the same side in the same leaky boat.

Do not serve the monsters by going into 'colonial' history rather than directing anger and attention where it should be ...on the bloody criminals.

p.s. white colonial history was not entirely pleasant for all the non-elite whites either, slavery takes many forms.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:26 | 4955764 DoChenRollingBearing
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Oh regional Indian

Writes the blogger from India on his computer...

;)   ORI, just yankin' your chain!

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:29 | 4955792 Jumbotron
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Yeah...Indians.....who worship cows and gang rape women before setting them on fire or hanging them from a tree.

Fuck you and YOUR "civilization" and it's "million" gods.

 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:44 | 4955850 Iwanttoknow
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Jumbo,Mossad is not training you well.India & Israel have a long history of collaboration,including arms and technology transfer.They were your best friend.Finally India is coming to it senses and realligning with BRICs.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:58 | 4955893 Oh regional Indian
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Unfortunately very true re. our past and even present really.

Modi is also very Israel friendly.....

Kooooombayaaahhhhh........

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:39 | 4956254 WTFx10
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OH ,your fucked then.

 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 15:11 | 4956380 Jumbotron
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You know why Israel is buddy buddy with India ?   Muzzies with nukes in Pakistan.  Or as I like to put it....Hotel Bin Laden.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 02:07 | 4958153 UselessEater
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doesn't really explain why india is giving it gold to BofE

ps Ghandi was a truly a great man

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 17:32 | 4957000 Monty Burns
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With friends like that.........

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 19:09 | 4957325 Promethus
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Seems like everyone hates the Muslims. Wonder why?  Islam is a religion of peace.  

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:25 | 4955771 Abitdodgie
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"A post oil world" , thats a joke right , the world has lots of oil just not so much the cheap stuff , they just found a trillion b in Australia.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 13:04 | 4955914 Jumbotron
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That "no so much cheap stuff" is what's causing the slow motion collapse that the Powers That Be are desperately trying to float through QEternity worldwide.

There will be a SHIT ton of oil left in the ground when the industriarlized world as we have known it winds down to a lower energy level way of operating.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 13:20 | 4955959 Cloud9.5
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Yes there will be oil at the end of the current era, but we run a serious risk of not having the means to extract it.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:18 | 4956151 Jumbotron
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The means are not a problem.  The funds needed to keep developing and maintaining the means.....well....that's the rub.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:57 | 4955636 SuperRay
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What do you expect from psychopathic megalomaniacs from the PNAC and CFR? They think they can get them all to kill each other, then walk in and take the oil. Trouble is, it'll probably be radioactive...

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:25 | 4955767 Hughing
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and for "they" , I will substitute "Obama"

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:20 | 4955739 Squid Viscous
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"Zoolander" - winning; Yellen - winning; Gold - Losing, looks like it's all wrapped up, when does NFL start...

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:30 | 4955541 Mr Pink
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The US has also succeeded in making Americans believe that this wasn't their plan in the first place

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:06 | 4955662 CPL
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It wasn't, England drew the lines on the map knowing full well what would happen.  They wanted to cross market religion, revelations of old dead prophets, with a 120 year old plan and give themselves an excuse to come to the rescue of their own really, really, really dumb plan. It's about as poorly scripted and unimaginative as it gets with a negative chance of success as it can get.

Now imagine if you are from another planet and you come to earth.  Your first reaction is "What the fuck are they all doing?".  Eventually the conclusion arrived at is this; "They don't have a clue."  Miraculously, they are even dumber than the last time you visited which is amazing. 

And since nothing can be done to change the mind of fools because it is no one's job on earth to fix stupid, just avoid it.  The only reasonable decision in the situation is you settle into a deck chair, take it easy and wait for the obvious expected and hilarious conclusion.  Which will not be remotely close to the outcome any of them supposed would happen. 

Because they aren't that smart, and they were playing with fire when they were told to never do certain things, because the conclusion is always the same.  In the meanwhile one would enjoy the stuff earth actually does well, like art, making cool things, producing amazing literature in pockets and producing neat gadgets while checking out the sights.  All the meanwhile laughing your ass off at how funny and stupid it all is.

It is sad to say this.  But Idiocracy was never meant to be a documentary.  (brawndo...it's got electrolytes)

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:39 | 4955835 post turtle saver
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worse yet, Idiocracy wasn't supposed to be a government field manual, but the general population makes that all too easy

ISIL is a case study in "astroturf" used on a geo-political scale to great effect... they happened because the usual group of Big Dogs wanted them to happen, they're effectively marginalizing decades of effort by the likes of Hamas/PLO/etc in the process and beating them in the only way they truly can be... by demonstrating results to the Arab Street... controlled results to be sure, but as far as the Arab Street is concerned results nonetheless... borders are moving, key areas are being controlled, material is being taken, heads are being chopped off, alalalalalalalalala life is as it always should have been, death to the infidels...

fence them all off in their playpen and let them hash it out, deal with the last Arab ruler standing, in the meantime the spice must flow so send in just enough blood and treasure to make that happen but not an iota more... empire building will never happen there without a level of commitment that any modern nation can afford... not even a superpower...

 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 13:28 | 4955978 CPL
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The smartest goat in the herd is still a goat, which is only slightly, by a fraction, smarter than a sheep.  Now arm that goat to the teeth and fill it's head with doom broadcast 24/7/365, make it dumber than a sock by underfunding it's education as a goat.  Then feed the the philosophy that murder is bad, unless you are given orders to.  Because someone is so totally wrong. 

Imagine if the same practice was done on the internet.  You know, start a war over someone being wrong on the internet,  That couldn't ever happen.  Could it?  It's impossible someone was wrong...on the internet.  Therefore it seems reasonable to assume we should all have wars over someone being wrong...on the internet.

Looking from 50000 ft view.  If seeking the law of attraction and definitive outcomes of the law of attraction.  Hey, they got it in spades.  This turns out 'better' than originally they would have every planned.  Not anyone that is near or on Earth mind you...but better than anyone could have guessed.  If people keep defining things like Arab or American or whatever, instead of their heritage and ancestry, everyone make sure to keep yourselves as deluded and fractured as possible.  It leaves the door open for many things that aren't in anyone's best interests on Earth.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 13:52 | 4956049 post turtle saver
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some goats are more equal than others

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 16:04 | 4956260 CPL
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And all delicious in stew and curry on rice with peas.  The sheep are a little on the skinny side btw, where as the goats are nice and fat after eating everyone else's meadow.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 19:11 | 4957334 Promethus
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It couldn't have been our plan. It's working.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:45 | 4955592 midtowng
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What is missing from this post is the fact that Israel doesn't mind killing Palestinian civilians. Doesn't mind it at all.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:55 | 4955630 Jumbotron
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You shouldn't ever mind killing blood thirsty pagan animals.  Kill as many as needed to stop the missile attacks.  Kill them all if necessary.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:57 | 4955637 john39
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i recall hitler saying something along those lines...  

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:16 | 4955707 Jumbotron
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Yeah....all those nasty Joos raining missiles down on Berlin in the late 30's.  They had it coming.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:45 | 4955848 Squid Viscous
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your definition of a "missile" is quite broad Jumbo-joo, they are more like oversized bottle rockets...maybe that's why we see alot of sirens and scampering around, but no-one ever gets hurt otherwise it would be the lead story on the nightly zio-news

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:46 | 4955856 Jumbotron
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It's only a bottle rocket until it hits your house and kills your family.

I'm glad Israel is going "Chicago Way" on them.  "They send one you to the hospital.....you send one of them to the morgue."

And you keep doing that day after day until all the missiles are gone and they beg for mercy.  That's the only way you deal with Muzzie animals.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:53 | 4955871 john39
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off your meds?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 13:05 | 4955922 Jumbotron
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No...it's called reality. 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 20:30 | 4957521 TungstenBars
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nah you're def unbalanced; maybe too much zionews

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 18:12 | 4957143 Squid Viscous
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wow the same 4 downvoters every time, let's see bob the slob,jumbo joo, flakmeister and... ?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 13:55 | 4956054 where_is the_nuke
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I could have annihilated all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was Annihilating them.

Fuck you filth Jewish cunt. Fuck the jews. Kill them all.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:08 | 4956093 danepol
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Charming, simply charming!

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:21 | 4956182 Jumbotron
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It's ok.  The mind of the anti-Semite is a fragile one.  It breaks the moment it realizes that with ALL the world's Muslim countries surrounding it and with ALL the Muslim countries getting some form of aid from the U.S., Russia and Europe....they still can't seem to eradicate the Jew.

It's either God......or the awful, pathetic, loser nature of the Muzzie.

Either way....not a pretty picture for the Muzzie or their leadership.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:28 | 4956210 where_is the_nuke
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fuck the muzzie. But first fuck the jews. There was a reason why they got their ass fucked from time to time. They are the parasites world needs to get rid off.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 15:14 | 4956392 Jumbotron
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Step up bubba and put your mouth where the Muzzie's dick is.  They need help.  So many of them getting wasted every day.  LOL !!!

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 20:33 | 4957529 TungstenBars
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"Step up bubba" - I recall the zio money exchangers of germany used to say that to the german popualtion they were sheering; how did that turn out?

 

Israel doesn't remember its lessons past

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 02:41 | 4958158 UselessEater
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Some ZH posters should reflect on the above comments - especially the fact that the same attitudes are being spread about you and your family and our nations.

Damn we're all going to drowning in this mis-directed hate which destroys our innate compassion.

Just because you have an anonymous handle its not a license to go totally feral and lose complete perspective.... meanwhile children are being caught in the violence and the usual few are grinning as serfs fall under the spell.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 10:39 | 4958924 where_is the_nuke
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Just one solution.Eradicate the satan worshiping jews from the earth.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 10:37 | 4958919 where_is the_nuke
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LOL. That's what jews do. They have been doing it historically and continue to do so. Just see how Clownyahu trying to suck Jinping's dick.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 10:43 | 4958938 where_is the_nuke
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Looks like you don't know anything. Just wait till the dollar crashes. For every infant joo sucking it's slut mother's nipple there will be 10 men waiting. And those days, joo, will come very hard upon joos.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:13 | 4955693 Anusocracy
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That would be more applicable to the West in general and America in particular.

They're the ones that have fucked up most of the world.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:43 | 4955849 post turtle saver
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next time we'll let all of Europe go Soviet Red and not lift a finger to keep ME oil flowing... y'all can sit in the dark behind barbed wire eating shoe leather sold as prime rib, pretending to work while they pretend to pay you...

freedom isn't free, bitchez

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:04 | 4956075 Anusocracy
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What happened to Europe was a follow on from US interference. You know, like what's happening in the ME.

"freedom isn't free"

True. You have to give up your addiction to government to get it.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 15:59 | 4956627 post turtle saver
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what happened to Europe is that they decided to shit in their own sandbox not once, but twice, leaving the US as back-to-back world war champions

said it before, saying again... if you're European and you're wondering what the problem is, look in a mirror... pointing a finger at the US leaves three pointing back at yourself

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:31 | 4955806 Joenobody12
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It is Jews like you that justify Hitlers action. You have become him and the world hates you for that .

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:44 | 4956274 Kalevi
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Oh Dear Mr Jumbotroll, I'm afraid bad news, you have failed the "Trolling for Zionism" course.

Pls stand in the corner with a pointy hat.

Mr Kunstler, congratulations, that's how you ace the course!

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:36 | 4956241 WTFx10
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And most of the chosen ones defending them, you would almost get the impression they would like to kill more.

Remember their holocaust is the only one that matters. The goy must have that drilled into their head every fucking day!

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 17:43 | 4957036 Monty Burns
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Did you know that the The Holocau$t™ was officially branded as late as 1971?  Hard to believe, but true.  http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2014/06/the-greatest-brand-that-ever-was.html

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 19:14 | 4957341 Trogdor
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Agreed.  Kuntsler seems to think murdering a few hundred Palestinians per day is fine - but GOD FORBID the inmates in that open-air concentration camp FIGHT BACK when their houses are bulldozed and children murdered .... savages!

Neither side are "angels" but in this case, I'd have to say the side that stole the land and has committed daily genocide and practices aparthied is more at fault than the native people.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:52 | 4955618 Jumbotron
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Really ?   The Middle East has 10,000 years of shifting alliances, boundaries, tribes, city states and empires.  It is CONSTANTLY disintegrating and reforming.  LONG before the U.S. 

Granted....we ARE accelerating it.  But when you are geographcally located in the EXACT center of the transit route between the West and the East......not to mention once OIL was found.....you are NEVER going to have a stable Middle East.  That's even IF you had stable people groups making it up.  Which you don't and never will have.

Middle Easterners have ALWAYS been an unstable lot.  Secular Historians and Religious tomes have stated that for CENTURIES.

Nothing new here......move along.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:09 | 4955680 loonyleft
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very unstable.

Remember when they started WWI? And then not happy with that those craaaaaazziiiiieeee muzzies started WWII. As if that wasn't enough for them they killed how many million russians? dropped how many nuclear bombs? bombed how many towns? Droned how many innocent people? /s for westerners that still have their rose coloured glasses on. 

I think being unstable is pretty prevalent in the west as well. 

Murkins can close a blind eye because the millions of innocent people they have killed in the past 75 years have mostly been in other countries. 

The idea that the middle east is unstable relative to the west is ignorant and dead wrong. FFS, look at the US and how many wars it's been in and how many deaths in what, 200 years? How stable is that? Unless of course you count being in a near constant state of war with someone as being stable. 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:25 | 4955772 Jumbotron
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The only time the Middle East is stable is when a majority of the countries are ruled by strong men and despots.

Or have you've heard of the Assyrian Empire, the Babylonian Empire, the Egyptian Empire, the Persian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the House of Saud, the Shah of Iran, Moamar Kadaffi, Haffez Al-Assad and his son Bashar, Hosni Mubarak and of course....Saddam Hussein.

That's it.  It's REALLY simple.  Middle Easterners are unstable and bat shit crazy.  If they are not ruled by the strong man and the despot.....you have the Arab Spring.  Then you have Al Queda....and then ISIS......in between Sunnis and Shiites killing each other ever since the death of Muhammad.

Instability for all the world to see for centuries and centuries.  Or despotic rule.  Some choice.  Some example.

And the Muzzies blame the world for the shit they live in.  Look at yourselves assholes and reform yourselves.  Jews have done it.  Christians have done it.  It's high time for you assholes to get your shit together and stop blaming joos and the crusaders.

Or you all will spend another century being pissed on by the world, until you run out of oil.  Then we won't care if you go back to killing yourselves.

 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:04 | 4955780 Anusocracy
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Any group of people stupid enough to allow themselves to be ruled by a pack of psychopaths called government will be unstable.

“Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought. It always defeats order, because it is better organized.”

-Terry Pratchett

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:17 | 4955723 Squid Viscous
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another "expert" opinion from a jew, how about if we hear from the other 99.8% of the world's population

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:32 | 4955517 Azannoth
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"..the USA has only succeeded in accelerating the process wherever we turn our attentions"

 

Normally this would scream "False Flag", "Problem Reaction Solution" or "Hidden Agenda", ... but with the Barry "Magic Negro" Obummer Incompetence can really be a valid catch-all option, .. now how scary is that!

Between malicious Dictators purposefully driving their country into the ground for (personal and ideological reasons) and borderline incompetents (with an IQ bordering on retard-syndrome), who would you rather have? .. as in would you rather be shot or hanged?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:26 | 4955519 hedgeless_horseman
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What Israel remembers is that nobody was on the side of its people in
1939
and they’ll be damned to make the same mistake of not fighting back
again.

God was on their side, no?

He jammed the wheels of their chariots so that they had difficulty
driving. And the Egyptians said, "Let's get away from the Israelites!
The LORD is fighting for them against Egypt." 

 

http://biblehub.com/exodus/14-25.htm

 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:28 | 4955536 john39
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i wonder who wrote that... 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:42 | 4955545 hedgeless_horseman
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Some see the holocaust as God giving his chosen people another wake-up-call about his Son, the Messiah. 

 

The Parable of the Tenants Mark 12:1-12

 

1 And he [Jesus] began to speak to them in parables. “A man planted a vineyard and put a fence around it and dug a pit for the winepress and built a tower, and leased it to tenants and went into another country. 2 When the season came, he sent a servant[a] to the tenants to get from them some of the fruit of the vineyard. 3 And they took him and beat him and sent him away empty-handed. 4 Again he sent to them another servant, and they struck him on the head and treated him shamefully. 5 And he sent another, and him they killed. And so with many others: some they beat, and some they killed. 6 He had still one other, a beloved son. Finally he sent him to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 7 But those tenants said to one another, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.’ 8 And they took him and killed him and threw him out of the vineyard. 9 What will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and destroy the tenants and give the vineyard to others. 10 Have you not read this Scripture:

 

“‘The stone that the builders rejected
    has become the cornerstone;[b]
11 this was the Lord's doing,
    and it is marvelous in our eyes’?”

 

12 And they [Rabbis] were seeking to arrest him but feared the people, for they perceived that he had told the parable against them. So they left him and went away.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:44 | 4955588 Kinskian
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The Russian Revolution was a wake up call for god's nonchosen people. Kunstler is just another zionist jew with a moral and intellectual blindspot the size of Israel.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:04 | 4955646 john39
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the chosen people thing is an obvious mind control device used by religious "leaders" to control the population, and do untold evil.   God the Creator of the Universe, does not need to select an ethnic subgroup of people to carry out his will, especially by practicing usury, and spreading untold strife...   this lie has rather obvious origins if you think about it for two seconds.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:09 | 4955659 hedgeless_horseman
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Isaiah 28:16

 

...therefore thus says the Lord God, “Behold, I am the one who has laid as a foundation in Zion, a stone, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone, of a sure foundation: ‘Whoever believes will not be in haste.’

 

 

 

 

Psalm 118:22

 

The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone.

Chosen people, church builders, same difference.

The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone.

 

 

Mark 12:12

 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:18 | 4955708 Arius
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my ONLY two cents:

 

At the end, the chosen people are the ones who believe in GOD!

 

 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:24 | 4955761 Bollixed
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So the Chinese people don't count. Got it...

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:28 | 4955782 hedgeless_horseman
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So the Chinese people don't count.

Not true.  Where did you read that?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:43 | 4955838 Arius
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"So the Chinese people don't count." 

 

not necessarely....there are among Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Arabs etc.  those who believe ... get it?

I believe given time more will ... however, most probably not much time left ....

 

 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:28 | 4955788 danepol
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True. It's not that God chose them, its that they chose God (and do still).

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:18 | 4956160 AnAnonymous
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If they were chosen, they would have be sent prophets. People who were chosen were sent prophets. This is how they knew they were chosen.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:18 | 4955727 john39
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for me, the main problem with the so called Old Testament, is that the God described therein, seems to have somewhat of a multiple personality disorder.  Certain parts ring true and good, other genocidal mass murdering/human/animal sacraficing sections, not so much.   People, however, get dogmatic, and fail to see what is right in front of their face...  There is a rather obvious explanation, but mind control stops most from even considering it.   I expecially love people who try and rationalize and explain the genocide in the OT...  a pure exercise in self delusion.

This is not to suggest that I believe the text worthless...  on the contrary.  But, imho, you must use your discernment and soul, together with what Jesus taught, to get at the truth, and leave the lies.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 23:49 | 4957444 New World Chaos
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If I was Lucifer, here's what I would do:

Find a devious, greedy, and murderous tribe.  Tell them I'm God and they're my chosen people.  Promise them land and wealth which belong to their neighbors.  Give them a huge entitlement mentality.  Give them the idea that anything they do to their neighbors is justified by my choice, but if their neighbors fight back at all, that is to be repaid with genocide echoing down through the millenia.  Because the deaths of my people are the only deaths that matter.

Knowing that most people need to perceive themselves as being good, I would give my people a morality based on ridiculous rules like "No opening doors on Saturday", "No eating chalupas on Tuesday", and "Fuck your wife through a hole in a sheet".  The most pridefully virtuous among them would have a house full of door slaves or Rube Goldberg machines, plus a whole extra set of cookware so they don't get a few stray chalupa molecules in the Tuesday meal. Lack of real sex would fill their hearts with repressed anger.

I would use similar variations on this formula with other religions.

Of course I would never say "No false flags", "no rehypothication", "no genocide", "no controlled demolition of any country that welcomes you", "no trying to take over the world", "no killing miracle workers who say your morality is fake", "no trying to start WWIII as cover for your engineered financial collapse", and "No cramming Marxism, third world immigration and political correctness down everyone else's throats while practicing the opposite policies for yourselves, and using political correctness as a weapon against anyone who points this out".  The Ten Commandments were for simpletons.  Those little sins are all good if my people call them something else and do them to the Goyim. Because the Goyim are dumb animals that I created to serve my people.  My people can remain virtuous simply by keeping their Rube Goldberg machines.  It's all laid out in this training manual for the elite:  the Babylonian Talmud.  This book will give dark powers to the Chosen.  It's so mind-bendingly awesome that the emperor of Khazaria dropped out of a fucking PENIS CULT for it!  

And now, thanks to my brilliant religious distortions, most of my chosen people are not even from the original bloodline!  They are Khazars.  But I let them take over the original Promised Land, claim it as their own and treat the locals like dogs (if they are Sephardic Jews) or like vermin (if they are Palestinians).  Even better:  DNA analysis has shown that Palestinians are mostly descended from Jews who converted to Islam at sword-point.  Bwahahah!   This whole practical joke was almost as funny as stuffing the Catholic church with pedophiles!  Oy, this planet offers up so many hilarious evils; maybe next I could get my people to start WWIII in Khazaria (i.e. Ukraine).  Or maybe I'll get ISIS to start it in Babylon.  Damn, I have too many people.

...

P.S.  In the end, Lucifer will devour ALL of his loyal minions.  There in his belly they will learn a new definition of pain and suffering as they are slowly digested over a period of... eternity.  Om nom nom nom, suckers! 

P.P.S.  Most of the Jews I know in real life (i.e. the little Jews) are not part of the problem.  They are as clueless as everyone else.  They just want to be left alone.  They respect other peoples' rights to be left alone.

P.P.P.S.  I agree that the whole Chosen People thing is absurd.

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IMHO, the Old Testament is tainted with typical arrogant, self-serving bullshit dreamed up by the priests. That's not much of a stretch.  The OT also includes a 6000 year old flat Earth covered by a dome, and a worldwide flood which covered the highest mountains.  OK, maybe Noah was a farmer who put his livestock on a large skiff and surfed the Black Sea flood after the end of the last ice age.  A lot of other stuff could sorta make sense like this.  Even the old stuff which is based in truth still has human fingerprints all over it. A lot of Old Testament thinking would have been based on older stories that went through a long game of telephone before anyone wrote it all down. There were still a bunch of inspired prophets (esp. Daniel, Micah, and Ezekiel).

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:58 | 4956320 Duffy Duck
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No - I mean you're cherry-picking for one thing - the chosen people myth is not the equivalent of the notion of salvation through faith or works.

By the way - if you want to see more examples of who is editing wiki - go to "supercessionism"

Apart from every link going to anti supercessionist webpages, they have tucked in a claim that "some Jews" believe that it is "anti-Semitic"...

so let's get this straight - it is not racism for Jews to think they are God's chosen, by birth [not faith!], and entitled to land by descent [not faith!] - in exchange for some foreskin from unconsenting infants... but the doctrine that says this "old covenant" was superceded and what matters now is faith in christ, irrespective of ethnic background - is "racist"?

I mean, are you fucking kidding me?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:08 | 4955667 SuperRay
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"Chosen people"

What fucking arrogance! Maybe they should stop telling everybody that they're god's chosen people. I'm so sick not just of hearing that crap, but of these morons who quote that ancient comic book as if it actually means something. Enough with your self righteous mystical bullshit. The only choosers are the fucking Jews themselves. Maybe if they stopped flaunting it, they'd stop being targets. Just sayin'

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:18 | 4955686 hedgeless_horseman
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...these morons who quote that ancient comic book as if it actually means something.

I am amazed you did not find any meaning in the, "ancient comic books."  You are very unique!  Unless, of course, you have not truly studied the, "ancient comic books," and yet still attack and demean others as morons for doing so.  For then you are not unique, but instead very common.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 22:55 | 4957865 TungstenBars
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No offense, but if you believe those comic books then you are a fucking moron.

 

And yes, I have studied them. 25 years of studying them. 25 years of life I can't get back. 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 16:05 | 4956662 dsty
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being chosen doesn't mean your ok

just means you have to keep up your part of the bargain

people who brag about being chosen have failed part of the bargain

to live humbly and to have mercy

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:35 | 4955544 JustObserving
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Update: 172 Palestinians dead. 130 civilians, 35 children, 26 women, 2 disabled. 1230 wounded. Israeli toll: 0 deaths, 3 wounded.

https://twitter.com/JFXM

With God on our side:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUZGGFOV6FM

The Spanish-American
War had its day
And the Civil War too
Was soon laid away
And the names of the heroes
I's made to memorize
With guns on their hands
And God on their side.

The First World War, boys
It came and it went
The reason for fighting
I never did get
But I learned to accept it
Accept it with pride
For you don't count the dead
When God's on your side.

When the Second World War
Came to an end
We forgave the Germans
And then we were friends
Though they murdered six million
In the ovens they fried
The Germans now too
Have God on their side.

I've learned to hate Russians
All through my whole life
If another war comes
It's them we must fight
To hate them and fear them
To run and to hide
And accept it all bravely
With God on my side.

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bobdylan/withgodonourside.html

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:42 | 4955582 earnulf
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God, Allah (whoops, can't use that in Malaysia, only Muslims), Odin, any god of war will do.   Using "God" as your co-pilot only means you don't have to assume responsibiilty for the deaths you cause, it's "God's Will"

Mans inhumanity to fellow man aided and abetted by Allah.    Odin save us!

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:46 | 4955599 samsara
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...In a many dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side.

So now as I'm leavin'
I'm weary as Hell
The confusion I'm feelin'
Ain't no tongue can tell
The words fill my head
And fall to the floor
If God's on our side
He'll stop the next war.

 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:53 | 4955627 philosophers bone
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Bit by Bit
Torn Apart
We never win
But the battle rages on
For Toy Soldiers

- Martika

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 13:11 | 4955936 Cruel Aid
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TS Mcphee- 'Thank Christ For The Bomb'

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:25 | 4955523 22winmag
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According to Israel for the last 20 years, Iran has been a few months away from building a nuclear bomb.

 

I believe they are off by a decade or two.

 

 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:01 | 4955650 Anusocracy
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All governments lie through their teeth.

Some just have more control over the media.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:30 | 4956213 WTFx10
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Bobtheslob and jumbotron have confirmed that's a conspiracy theory so no worries.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:33 | 4955529 yogibear
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And those in the middle east will come to the US for payback.

Every country that hates the US knows the way to destroy the US is economically.

The US Federal Reserve is doing a great job of accomplishing that.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:36 | 4955562 Azannoth
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Sadly for America and it's People, once the World starts pointing fingers (and all of them will be pointing your way), there will be no other nation as Hated as the Americans, remember the Germans after WW2, well you just might get a similar experience.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:27 | 4955533 pupdog1
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Never send a packet of greasy ketchup to do a man's job.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:29 | 4955538 Al Huxley
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I wish I could rate this as 0, but 1 will have to do.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:32 | 4955548 buzzsaw99
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joo propaganda

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:35 | 4955563 Itchy and Scratchy
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Mission Accomplished!

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:41 | 4955565 alexcojones
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The Entire Purpose .

Intentionally & with Great Malice Aforethought

    "IF a gang of neo-Nazis had kidnapped a 16-year old boy in a London Jewish neighborhood in the dark of the night, driven him to Hyde Park, beaten him up, poured gasoline into his mouth, doused him all over and set him on fire – what would have happened?"

   "Wouldn’t the UK have exploded in a storm of anger and disgust? Wouldn’t the Queen have expressed her outrage? Wouldn’t the Prime Minister have rushed to the home of the bereaved family to apologize on behalf of the entire nation?"

 

Uri Avnery – The Atrocity
Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:30 | 4955800 BobTheSlob
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Answer: NO, because this would have been perpetrated by a gang of mooooslimes and nor neo-Nazis. The UK government is afraid of the mooooslimes, the neo-Nazis not so much.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:38 | 4955574 earnulf
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What's laughable is blaming the US for everything that goes wrong in the Middle East.    These folks have been at each others throats over the same parched scrubland for two thousand years and the animosity shown by all sides is that of pure, unadulterated loathing of the others existance.

There are moderates, but they are scared to speak out, because the Zealots on all sides have weapons and don't care who they kill, as long as they kill.     Jihad, Holy War, Crusade, you name it and it becomes the cause celebrie for that side and who cares about the innocent civilians who don't have the means to flee or the ability to counter the rhetoric.

Sure the US supports Isreal, Sure other "players" are funding IS, Hamas, Hezbollah, it's the Spanish Civil War all over again, waiting for the right moment to break out into a "conflict" that spreads (like it's already doing in Paris).

The US is not the bogey man in this, the only thing that will stop the bloodshed is for those who are shedding blood to die.   Sometimes you just can't buy an alien invasion when you need one.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:29 | 4955795 BobTheSlob
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Precisely. When you are dealing with a bunch of lunatics who worship a murdering raping prophet and hold him up as a role model, it becomes immediately obvious that whatever you do, it will be wrong.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:40 | 4955575 joego1
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Wow! What really crappy weather they have been having in that part of the world.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:41 | 4955576 NoPantsSpongeBob
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Hamas is quite willing to sacrifice the women and children who eat and sleep around their rocket installations for the propaganda value of pretending that they were not deliberately put in harm’s way.

Oh, so they are doing it for propaganda, not because the human rights of Palestinians are violated on a daily basis. Got it.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:38 | 4955829 Jumbotron
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Oh...you mean how Palestinians (HAMAS) violate other Palestinians rights.....like the right to live even if they disagree politically (FATAH).

Got it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWPL5V5G528

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:39 | 4955833 loonyleft
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One other reason they put their rockets amongst women and children is because that's the only place to put them. What else are they supposed to do? Here's some ideas. 

1. They can put their rockets in the middle of a field with no one around except the rockets and hamas. They could also wear brightly coloured jackets and maybe even put flares up so that everyone (except the IDF) would know exactly where they are.

2. They can put their rockets in residential neighbourhoods but then notify all the civilians around them that the rockets are in that building. Once again, this on the QT...shhh....don't tell the IDF. 

3. They can just not use rockets and go the way of peace and use peaceful protests and then Israel will surely stop building houses on palestinian land, and respect palestine. 

This is a stupid propaganda piece and the statement of using women and children as human shields is stupid. Sure they are, but in their mind is not a matter of choice or propaganda but a matter of survival.  

If you don't like the idea of killing women and children, or think it's cowardly, look to your own country that would rather blow up babies, er, collateral damage, then have to face the populace with too many soldiers dying.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:52 | 4955868 Jumbotron
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Fuck 'em.  Cowardly turd eaters all.  This is NOT just a Palestinian issue.  Muzzies the world over hide their military assets amongst the people and then use the civilian deaths for good P.R. for the useful idiots in the Western press.

Here's how you stop it.  You continue to blow up the military installations along with the houses and the mosques until the PEOPLE demand that their bat shit crazy militants stop putting them there.

That's it...that's all.  And if you have to level WHOLE cities doing it.....oh well.   That's the price you pay.  Until you are unwilling to pay it any more.  If you are willing to pay.....don't blame anyone for your death.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 13:07 | 4955926 loonyleft
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The US is very good at leveling whole cities (falluja), and blowing up millions of innocent women and children to achieve their goals. One of those goals is to not have too many soldiers die so they can continue their rampage all over the world without the murkin public getting all queasy. That is cowardice. 

If I had the weapons and power that the 'muzzies' had vs. the US/Israel, I would do everything I could to maximize that. 

The idea that they should just 'man up' and stand out in an open field and fight like men is suicide and completely stupid, especially when the US was more than happy to carpet bomb them for days (IRAQ 1) and go in with Apache gunships and mow them down from a safe mile away in pitch black while all they could do is run for cover. 

When fighting a superior armed foe that is unwilling to engage at the same level but rather attack from a distance, it's not crazy to hide wherever you can, that's sanity. 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 13:09 | 4955932 Jumbotron
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it's not crazy to hide wherever you can, that's sanity.

Sanity is knowing you are NOT going to defeat Israel.

Sanity is telling the people to get out...we are installing rocket launchers here and the Israelis will probably blow it up sooner or later.

There is nothing sane about the mind of a Muzzie.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 13:16 | 4955954 loonyleft
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typical murkin mindset.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:43 | 4956271 Jumbotron
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Typical Muzzie mindset

http://static4.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/...

http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/6a00d8341c60bf5...

http://static0.nydailynews.com/imageserve/dd79141519486592cc8f5f796da140...

https://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7144/3708/400/623741/ashoura.jpg

http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/6a00d8341c60bf5...

http://ivarfjeld.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ashura-dagger-banging-09.jpg

http://elbauldejosete.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/349734.jpg

http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/original700/india-ashura-2009-12-28-11-13...

http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/13062011/3602380/AFP0592447-01-086047...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/36538000/jpg/_36538306_ashura_boy_ap1...

http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/6a00d8341c60bf5...

 

Islam is a blood cult.  Pure and simple.  Different name to the god.  But a blood cult.

And nothing has change for thousands of years.  So...the Muzzie is cutting themselves and others for Allah.  Thousands of years ago....they were cutting each other over Baal and Moon Goddesses.  Nothing ever changes except the name of their pagan gods.

Here's a little something from a thousand years before Mohammed.

So Ahab sent word throughout all Israel and assembled the prophets on Mount Carmel. 21 Elijah went before the people and said, "How long will you waver between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow him; but if Baal is God, follow him." But the people said nothing. 22 Then Elijah said to them, "I am the only one of the LORD's prophets left, but Baal has four hundred and fifty prophets. 23 Get two bulls for us. Let them choose one for themselves, and let them cut it into pieces and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. I will prepare the other bull and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. 24 Then you call on the name of your god, and I will call on the name of the LORD. The god who answers by fire--he is God." Then all the people said, "What you say is good." 25 Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, "Choose one of the bulls and prepare it first, since there are so many of you. Call on the name of your god, but do not light the fire." 26 So they took the bull given them and prepared it. Then they called on the name of Baal from morning till noon. "O Baal, answer us!" they shouted. But there was no response; no one answered. And they danced around the altar they had made. 27 At noon Elijah began to taunt them. "Shout louder!" he said. "Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened." 28 So they shouted louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until their blood flowed.

 

Nothing new under the Middle Eastern sun.

 

 

 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:46 | 4955598 tony wilson
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the photo in the heading looks like a low yield tactical battlefield nuke.

how many hundreds arabs dead now is the yid death toll still zero?

mark regev still talking of the suffering rabbis.

what mentally what satanism.

using depleted uranium and low yield weapons that will in the long run cancer kill the jewish saturn hosting host.

 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:17 | 4955715 dsty
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i am wondering if this crazy hate jew talk is from a self loathing jew

wasn't hitler part jewish?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 13:33 | 4956003 tony wilson
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i love this video

so much mossad semitism in it

dance baby dance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMkX5uemLyk

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:27 | 4955781 BobTheSlob
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Awe...those poor poor muzzies...

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:48 | 4955603 The Duke of New...
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Ummmmm .... wasn't destablization the plan from the beginning.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:48 | 4955605 luckylogger
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This will get alot of bad reviews but what the author says about hamas and the jews is true. 

Hamas is a bunch of pussies hiding behind their women and little kids, the most cowerdly act of all !!!!

As far as oil goes, this is a problem that will resolve itself over the next few centuries, We have the capibility to utilize the found oil for the next 200 years at present use rates...... 

No need to freak out and tilt at windmills.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:03 | 4955652 john39
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when you are trapped in a pen, with women and children everywhere...  that seems reather inevitable, doesn't it.   makes for good hasbara I  guess to repeat this lie.  problem is, like all hasbara, its way past its shelf life.  no one with a brain believes it.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:25 | 4955768 BobTheSlob
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"when you are trapped in a pen, with women and children everywhere..."

A blatant falsehood. They can go to Jordan any time they want. Nothing is stopping them.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:41 | 4955842 john39
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maybe...  maybe not.  either way, why do they have to leave their ancestral land to make room for european psychopaths too blind to see that their utopian dream is all bloody lie and nightmare?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:50 | 4955861 BobTheSlob
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Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Which are the real borders? The ones from 2000 BC, the ones from 0 BC, the ones from 750 AD, 1930, 1948, 1957, or...or...or...

Great Britain already came up with a 2 state solution in the 1930s. Israel and Jordan, both with defensible borders. Every conflict since then was an attempt to return to sanity.

Let's just give the land back to another fictitious people: The Philistines. At least they actually existed at one time!

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:55 | 4955881 john39
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Palestinians are getting starved, bombed and chased off the land today.  this is not abstract, or historical.  It is happening real time.  whatever lies have been written as "history" are unecessary to see and understand what is happening now before the world's eyes.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:55 | 4955880 Jumbotron
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Nobody wants the Palestinians back, even though ethnically and genectically they are Jordanians and Arabs.  They are useful tools in the Muzzie P.R. world against Israel.

I have heard Palestinians themselves state that the Arab world does not care for them.....they use them like everyone else uses them.

So much for Muzzie brotherhood.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 13:36 | 4956006 tony wilson
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bob the yids back refreshed after jerking his micro cock over images of burning babies.

fuck you bob and your rancid metzitzah b'peh severed cock head helmet.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:47 | 4956286 Jumbotron
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And in the time it took you to spit out that incoherent mess....another Muzzie terrorist died by an Israeli missile.  YAY !

Why don't you pray to the all powerful ALLAH ?   Doesn't he care about his people ?  Where is he ?  He is still a god....right?  Where is the all Jew consuming fart of Allah come to sweep away the Jews into the sea with the mightiness of his fart ?

 

LOL !!!!!!

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:27 | 4955784 flysofree
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What did you expect?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:02 | 4955607 JustObserving
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Kunstler on 9/11:

The United States had to take Jihad seriously when Jihad hijacked airplanes and knocked down two skyscrapers and one side of the Pentagon. (And, by the way, I regard theories that Vice-president Dick Cheney "masterminded" the 9/11 attacks to be paranoid nonsense beneath discussion.)

 I regard the 9/11 conspiracy theories as a fantasy and a distraction from the real problems we face.

http://www.kunstler.com/mags_diary15.html

And thank you, Kunstler, for that badge of honor from a peerless liar and hypocrite:

The characters who infest their comment section (of Zero Hedge) are some of the worst vermin in trolldom.

http://www.portlanddailysun.me/index.php/opinion/columns/7377-salutes-to...

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:26 | 4956176 DavidPierre
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Cuntsliar... Smokey(Jim)Quinn... etc ... etc !

MORONIC TOOLS !

http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:51 | 4955615 mototard
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Even more bizzare:  The Egyptian press is cheering on the Israelis as they attack HAMAS (Muslim Brotherhood) in Gaza.  When the Egyptians are cheering on the Israelis, you know it is getting weird.

http://tinyurl.com/kh4dbjm

“Bless you (Israeli Prime Minister) Netanyahu, may Allah make a lot of people like you to destroy Hamas, the base of corruption, treachery and being an agent for the (Muslim) Brotherhood. By Allah, whoever tells me "forbidden (to say this)", I don't know what I'll do.”
Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:56 | 4955884 Jumbotron
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That's because the Egyptians have had enough of the Muslim Brotherhood in which Hamas is a branch of.

Of COURSE the Egyptians are cheering.  They don't mind letting the Israelis do their dirty work for them.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:52 | 4955617 Sudden Debt
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Gold is crashing down to 1200 and silver to 18.

Wouldn't that be totally different if there was a real geopolitical problem?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:09 | 4955678 americanspirit
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I'll be pulling the trigger at $18

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:17 | 4955705 DoChenRollingBearing
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Sudden Debt

Yes, it would be totally different.  Gaza is just another Mideast sideshow.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:52 | 4955619 AnAnonymous
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You have to give it to 'americans': they are funny people.

Disintegration of the middle east? Acceleration of the process?

Wasnt the starting plan about reshaping the region, rebalancing the various forces operating in this area to favour 'american' middle class interests?

What about the crashing it and restarting fresh 'american' meme?

Of course, when recalling those annoying facts, one can see how inoperative the 'american' diplomacy has been: they have been successful at carrying out their plan so better to deny it.

'Americans' are funny people because they keep staging the same play since 1776, July, 4th when they sold submission tagged as freedom, theft tagged as right to property and murder as right to life.

Since those days, they've been failing at innovating, they keep playing the same play, hoping to get the same applause from people.

Trouble for 'americans, the play is bad, unsurprising and people only take their seats because they want a share of the loot.

Bribing around since 1776, July, 4th.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:42 | 4955846 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You have to give it to 'americans': they are funny people.

Well, you know, you do what you can. Sometimes it's not easy to judge what an audience will laugh at, so all you can do is try.

Wasnt the starting plan about reshaping the region, rebalancing the various forces operating in this area to favour 'american' middle class interests?

I thought the plan was to fuck shit up and then grab the resources. But hey, maybe that parallels what you are saying.

Of course, when recalling those annoying facts, one can see how inoperative the 'american' diplomacy has been:

Appointing a horse as Secretariat of State leads me to believe that the diplomacy wasn't intended to be operative.

they have been successful at carrying out their plan so better to deny it.

Denying the plan is part of the funny. Everyone except 'americans' can see through the charade; that the various flimsy denials are part of the comedy is a mattering conclusion to reach.

Since those days, they've been failing at innovating, they keep playing the same play, hoping to get the same applause from people.

Hey, just a second there. Are you telling that the canned applause sound effect is somehow not an innovated thing?

Trouble for 'americans, the play is bad, unsurprising and people only take their seats because they want a share of the loot.

Yes, the play is bad, but on the other hand, they overcharge for parking.

Bribing around since 1776, July, 4th.

I'll tell you a thing another: the popcorn they sell in the lobby is so stale that it might have been sitting there since 1776, July, 4th.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 11:57 | 4955639 DeliciousSteak
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"The US Has Only Succeeded In Accelerating Middle East Disintegration"

But of course. Which is more beneficial for the long term survival of Israel: middle east integration or disintegration?

 

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:06 | 4955664 q99x2
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Set those F'n nukes off bitchez. I'm tired of waiting for this shit.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:13 | 4955695 dsty
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i think it is a planned disintigration

remember obama promising change

a little fear will make people accept what they would have never accepted

a change they would have never accepted prior to chaos

welcome to the NWO

the beast system is way more then a few jewish rich guys claiming to be zionists

in fact many here are part of it and dont even realize it

you can't outsmart God., didnt work for communism ya'll

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:14 | 4955697 johngerard
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"Neither side takes him seriously, of course"

Nobody takes the USA seriously anymore. Nobody cares what the USA says or does. It is becoming a marginal player and a laughing stock, just like Barry said he wanted before he was elected. In that respect, I don't know why so many are complaining - he said what he was going to do, you elected him, now he's doing it.

Do you think the Chinese are not laughing their arses off every day at the shit Barry and Kerry do? Do you think the Arabs have anything but total disdain for Barry? Especially since he bows to the Saudi King like a good serf. Do you think Putin cannot believe his luck, that on his watch, he ended up being faced with this shit-show?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:14 | 4955700 Duke Dog
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Fuck Kunstler!

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:25 | 4955770 danepol
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To the anti-semitic trolls who haunt ZH: Israel and the Jews will be here long, long after you are gone and forgotton.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:09 | 4956099 where_is the_nuke
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I could have annihilated all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was Annihilating them.

Kill the filthy jews. Just see punk what happens after the dollar collapse. Jews will be hunted like dogs.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 15:17 | 4956422 Jumbotron
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The Palestinians are running low on man-power over there.  A little something to do with Israeli missiles.  Why don't you go join up.....freedom fighter.    LOL !!!!!!

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 16:55 | 4956848 Duffy Duck
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Does your mother know you're online?

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:29 | 4955793 I Write Code
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We have a president whose main activity is either running his mouth, or getting together with some friends and hitting white balls with long sticks.  In these ways he helps make the world a better place.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:29 | 4955796 ImUncleSam_That...
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I approve of this message.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:33 | 4955810 Jack Burton
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I have made post after post on this subject. Especially the US action to destroy Syria and replace their government with so called rebels. Since I already pointed out the US support for terrorists in this Syria operation, all I can say is look at the results! Iraq, ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Much of the money, arms and training provided by the USA and NATO ended up in ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Look at how this has worked out! NOW, this is not enough for the "Deep State" and their current puppet Obama. After all that has happened, these clowns vow 1/2 a billion in money and arms for Syrian rebels, so called "good rebels". Right, rebels the USA controls supposedly. These are also 90% Al-Qaeda, we all know it.

Libya was nother case where I claimed the USA supported Al-Qaeda, there is ample proof of this, as Libya is controlled by Al-Qaeda and Jihad militias. Libya is a base camp for world Jihad, and the USA insured it's creation and survival as such.

The "Deep State" via their owned Media is telling us a totally fabricated story of Middle East news. All lies, all the time. America is under the contol of people with very specific goals of empire. In their games, they are fully prepared to pay Al-Qaeda and Jihadists IF they seem useful in killing governments and ethnic groups the USA does not like. Since the 80's AL-Qaeda has been funded from time to time by the USA, BUT 100% of the time by the "Deep States" allie Suadi Arabia. Israel also helps out by operating certain Al-Qaeda cells as Mossad operations in aid of US and Israeli empire.

Middle East is Israeli's empire, it is just that Muslims are too stupid or too deluded to know they are being brought to kill each other and destroy nations in aid of US and Israeli Imperial take overs of the Middle East.

I suggest those who refuse to believe that freedom loving christian America can and even would support Jihad and Al-Qaeda, get over the lies of media and CNN in particular. Use you internet connection and look for information on the "Deep State" and on Israel and on AIPAC. In a few minutes you can begin to find things CNN will never tell you. America's Spy agencies and Military Industrial complex have allied with the 1% Wall-Street and Bankers crowd to form a "Deep State". And you, as a voter, as a worker and taxpayer, as a military veteran, as a christian, YOU don't mean Jack Shit to the "Deep State". They want your loyalty to get your taxes and your willingness to join the military. Other than those two functions, they consider you an animal, a dangerous animal, a threat to their "Deep State" wealth, power and empire. NSA 24/7 mega spying is because they consider you a terrorist. To even think of voting outside the Democrat/Republican model makes you a terror threat.

Mon, 07/14/2014 - 14:27 | 4956205 Dickweed Wang
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Use you internet connection and look for information on the "Deep State" and on Israel and on AIPAC.

Those that are too lazy to do their own reasearch on this can actually get a pretty factual depiction of these (and related) issues by watching RT News (http://rt.com/on-air/) or PressTV (http://www.presstv.ir/live.html).  Those two channels put the collective American "Main Stream Media" to shame.  You defintely will get information from both of those sources that would never see the light of day on CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!