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China Warns US To Stay Out Of South China Sea Dispute

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A week ago, China made it very clear to the US that while it is happy to preserve cordial relations and smile on photo ops, it had no problems with taking the US to task, and even the battlefield, financial or conventional, should the US - having lost most of its credibility in recent years - dare to interfere. It said it so clearly only an idiot could have misread it: "A conflict between China and United States will definitely be a disaster for the two countries and the world,” Xi said. “As long as we uphold mutual respect, maintain strategic patience and remain unperturbed by individual incidents and comments, we’ll be able to keep relations on a firm footing despite ups and downs that may come our way.”

Sadly, since these days US foreign policy indeed appears to be run by idiots, instead of staying out of China's way, the US responded by kicking the tiger in the teeth and escalated even further when it was reported that the US was unleashing even more military forces in China's back yard, and is developing new military tactics to deter China’s slow but steady territorial advances in the South China Sea, including more aggressive use of surveillance aircraft and naval operations near contested areas.

Ok, so the US can't take a hint. So it is up to China to explain again. Which it did earlier today when it warned the United States, in no uncertain terms, to stay out of disputes over the South China Sea and leave countries in the region to resolve problems themselves, after Washington said it wanted a freeze on stoking tension.

From Reuters:

China's Foreign Ministry repeated that it had irrefutable sovereignty over the Spratly Islands, where most of the competing claims overlap, and that China continued to demand the immediate withdrawal of personnel and equipment of countries which were "illegally occupying" China's islands.

 

"What is regretful is that certain countries have in recent years have strengthened their illegal presence through construction and increased arms build up," the ministry said in a statement.

In case it was not clear how far China is willing to go, here is another explanation for the US state depratment: "China would resolutely protect its sovereignty and maritime rights and had always upheld resolving the issue based on direct talks with the countries involved "on the basis of respecting historical facts and international law", it added.

And since China is aware it is dealing with John Kerry, it explained one final time: China "hopes that countries outside the region strictly maintain their neutrality, clearly distinguish right from wrong and earnestly respect the joint efforts of countries in the region to maintain regional peace and stability", it added, in reference to the United States.

Not surprisingly, the US toed the party line: Michael Fuchs, U.S. deputy assistant secretary of state for Strategy and Multilateral Affairs, said no country was solely responsible for escalating tension in the region. But he reiterated the U.S. view that "provocative and unilateral" behavior by China had raised questions about its willingness to abide by international law.

That said, now that China has very clearly warned to stay out of its national interest zone, one wonders just how many US aircraft carriers will find their way into the East and South China sea to make sure China is antagonized some more, and a full blown conflict truly erupts. In the meantime, keep an eye on the BRICS bank we reported about yesterday, because while the US pretends its entire economy isn't merely riding on the coattails of the biggest asset bubble ever inflated, the part of the world that is actually productive is already planning for what happens once said bubble - as implicitly confirmed by Yellen earlier - bursts.

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Tue, 07/15/2014 - 12:43 | 4959492 Eyeroller
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Is this being reported on main stream news?  Barry needs to know.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 12:45 | 4959500 lordylord
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Governments act like children.  We can do so much better without them.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 12:57 | 4959547 jbvtme
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not sure what china is worried about. our track record in asia is less than stellar

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:03 | 4959577 Headbanger
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Prepare to standby to ready for launch our ultimate weapon of mass destruction...

The Hillary!

And if that isn't enough, we'll  send the Wookie again!

Oh the humanity!!

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 14:59 | 4960024 Dick Gazinia
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To put it in terms that our feeble-minded president can understand...

 

The South China Sea is a large water hazard.  Don't slice.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 18:36 | 4960772 The Alarmist
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In real life, unlike on the golf course, you can't "fix" your f*ck-ups by dropping a new ball on the fairway. 

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 12:58 | 4959553 Kirk2NCC1701
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In the short run, it's necessary to do w/o them for a while, to restore sanity.

In the long run... you need both.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:03 | 4959581 El Vaquero
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Governments are evil.  I'm just of the opinion that we'll get one whether we want one or not.  There are just too many sheep and too many sociopaths and control freaks to maintain a true state of anarcho-capitalism. 

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:13 | 4959610 Herd Redirectio...
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I wish people weren't sheep, but the fact is, people want to believe what they are told.  Especially when someone tells you what you want to hear.  So thats what we got.  A system where the all-powerful government lies to you, and tells you its looking out for you. 

We want the gov't to be all powerful, because we believe it is looking out for us!

Madness.  People only truly ever learn the hard way, it would seem.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:18 | 4959630 lordylord
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"We want the gov't to be all powerful, because we believe it is looking out for us!"

A vote for more government is a vote against one's ability as an individual to provide for one's self and one's family.  I would feel bad for these people if they didn't also give away my liberty along with theirs.  As such, these people are my enemies.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:25 | 4959646 NOTaREALmerican
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Exactly right.   Trust in authority symbols (suits,  uniforms, wise-beards,  robes,  bald-heads) is what keeps society organized.   The smartests-n-savviest humans simply leverage this trust.    That's why we have religions and political parties.  Anarcho-capitalism is like any other ISM,  it would work great if you removed all the manipulative sociopaths and assholes.   But what BETTER survival-of-the-fittest trait is there for a human than "ability to manipulate".  

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 14:35 | 4959895 Anusocracy
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"is what keeps society organized."

Hardly. It gives us war, death, destruction, theft, and massively interferes with technological progress in areas not related to government viability.

"Anarcho-capitalism is like any other ISM"

Again, hardly. The other ISMs need government in order to exist.

Anarcho-capitalism can't exist while government exists.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 12:58 | 4959556 BigJim
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Weird article from ZH. What the fuck is more aggressive use of surveillance aircraft and naval operations near contested areas in international waters?

Much as I dislike the Anglo-American empire, I'm not keen on a Chinese one, either... and they've been making some very aggressive moves in waters nowhere near their territory.

Just because the US is an evil hegemon doesn't mean we should welcome China trying to behave like one too.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:06 | 4959590 COSMOS
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Yeah so what, so USA can be the only evil hegemon at the party.  LOL dude until the USA stops being the world hegemon we have no business telling others you can't do it so we can be the only ones.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:16 | 4959625 NOTaREALmerican
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But, in the real world, there is always ONE evil hegemon.    There's got to be.    Which is why our Big-MIC is supported by "Liberals", "Conservatives", and even some/most "Progressives" because everybody is afraid of the OTHER guy being the evil hegemon.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:22 | 4959638 cougar_w
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Wait. Is a hegemon anything like a pokemon? Cuz there are some really nasty pokemon.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:26 | 4959653 NOTaREALmerican
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HA,  I actually had to look-up the word.    Still not sure it means anything.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 14:06 | 4959781 Hugh G Rection
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Israel is in the process of showing what hegemony looks like.  Use your whores in DC to send American cannon fodder off to Balkanize your strongest Arab rivals, mix in some Wahabi lunatic throat slitters as icing on the cake and watch Syria and Iraq divide up into little warring sects while you scare the MSM watching idiots into thinking Islam is pushing for a Caliphate.  Meanwhile they secure the pipelines, resources, and work toward fulfilling the Torah fairy tail of Eretz Yisrael.

Out with the petrodollar, and in with world government headquartered in Jerusalem and an RFID chipped population of slaves.

“Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.” Benjamin Netanyahu, 2002

Jack Bernstein called it decades ago

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 14:58 | 4960014 BlindMonkey
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I see no evidence to the contrary to suggest that Bebe isn't a sock puppet of London too. Israel May be stroked into thinking they are the chosen people but they dance to the same chaos and war tune as everyone else.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 15:40 | 4960218 Hugh G Rection
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Israel is the pet project of the Rothschild banking cabal.  The City of London and ZUSA are in the same axis of evil.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 23:42 | 4961598 willwork4food
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The bastards really want to start sacrificing on the Temple Mount again . . we shall see about that.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:59 | 4959762 fockewulf190
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Well, if China wants to play, then good luck. They are not going to get those islands by jawboning their way to possession. They are going to have to attack and risk the consequences. They are going to have to put their "face" on the line. The Chi-coms have been shaking their fists at Taiwan for decades already, and have never invaded, so their track record up until now is quite clear. However, their one big advantage right now is that the US has a totally inept leader who may well fold like a cheap suit if put under pressure. So the time for action may never be better than now.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 14:35 | 4959892 Uchtdorf
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Careful, the ineptness in the current occupant of the White House was just what the elites ordered. He's a puppet and nothing more. Actions taken in and around the three branches of government are not done by accident or by mere coincidence.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 17:52 | 4960634 mkkby
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True, China hasn't taken back Taiwan.  They have calculated that the cost would be too high.  But they can afford to wait us out. 

We are hard to beat while we can pay for real things with printed fiat.  But once the dollar crashes the US won't be able to support the MIC essentially for free.  Nobody will be there to stop them.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 20:24 | 4961067 TheReplacement
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They can't wait too long.  Demographics are going to be their Waterloo just like Japan but on a vastly grander scale.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 15:01 | 4960033 BlindMonkey
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Has Barry drawn his red line in crayon yet? I have been too busy watching ISIS driving around in the Hummers that the CIA gave them to pay attention to the East.

Poke me in the ribs when something good happens there. (Chinese rioters torching the Japanese new car lots will do just nicely thank you.)

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 15:05 | 4960054 Dick Gazinia
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"We can just work up a number six on them.  We'll go ridin' in whoopin', shootin', and rapin' everything in sight."

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 15:14 | 4960102 luftmensch
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Cozzie, the real question is who do we want managing things - the Chinese, the Americans, or the Caliphate? (I think Russia is safely out of the running at this point.)

The sovereign nation industry has reached a point of consolidation. There are not a lot of brands to choose from. If you think they're all evil, then back the lesser of the evils.

You can't pull a Ron Paul here and naively think everyone can just mind their own business at this point.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 17:00 | 4960505 Omen IV
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action begets reaction - american actions for 100 years everywhere - overt and covert - has created momentum against their interests regardless if someone has apposing view or not - just because the USA is there - forces will arm against them

go to genesis - Delano participation (FDR's uncle) in the opium trade and what that did to Chinese interests - the beginning of the  chinese  - american relationship -  payback is a bitch

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 20:21 | 4961057 TheReplacement
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So true.  Am glad someone else sees it too.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 14:28 | 4959858 Stuck on Zero
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The U.S. can win this battle by doing nothing militarily or diplomatically.  China is destroying its own image and will drastically hurt its own economy by its present imperial course of action.  What we need to do is use this as an excuse to slowly turn off Chinese imports and rebuild our own country.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 12:52 | 4959526 lakecity55
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No, he does not. He's off giving a BJ somewhere, leave him alone.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:26 | 4959651 Snoopy the Economist
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"Is this being reported on main stream news?  Barry needs to know."

Very good comment. I agree, golf courses should be outfitted with electronic billboards with MSM news flashes to keep him updated - how else can he be expected to keep up with evolving events?

 

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 14:05 | 4959778 post turtle saver
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the US Navy is larger than the next 13 navies listed... unless China wants to (yet again) see up front what a couple of _real_ carrier groups can do in that area they best tone down their rhetoric... ASEAN cannot possibly work these claims out themselves, outside players will be actively sought out and brought in to bring stability to the South China Sea... and, like it or not, the US Navy is *the* big swinging dick on the high seas these days...

so, more bloviating bluster from the region's paper tiger... signifying nothing...

 

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 14:26 | 4959852 fockewulf190
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Unless the dollar is destroyed. The biggest threat to the US Navy is the national debt and the unsustainable economic policies being pursued in DC. The Great Reset will force the Navy into a mothballed fleet... much as I hate to admit it.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 14:33 | 4959886 post turtle saver
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yep... "we have met the enemy and he is us"

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 16:04 | 4960322 BlindMonkey
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You might get your chance to see the Chinese ASBM vs the US countermeasures. Good luck to the sailors riding the thing.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/ZtyTH4kKWME?autoplay=1

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 17:19 | 4960550 post turtle saver
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yes, I'll get my chance to see what an Aegis that can pop satellites from orbit can do with that... if they don't railgun it instead...

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 18:16 | 4960704 Abbie Normal
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Paraphrasing Bruce Lee:  satellites don't hit back

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 19:09 | 4960866 BlindMonkey
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Yep. You have witnessed the satellite in orbit thing? What about returning bodies at insane speeds? It might happen and it might not. I would not want to be in a carrier group and find out the ASBMs work better than we thought.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 17:04 | 4960514 Omen IV
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carriers wont cut it - give me 20 submarines and the US Carrier Group is "blown out of the water" - with base operation less than  days sail away for the chinese.

they can do it for ten or twenty years with 5% of the resources the US needs

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 17:19 | 4960548 post turtle saver
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no, they can't, and they know it

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 20:31 | 4961090 TheReplacement
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Why would the US have to go into the disputed waters near China to engage?  Couldn't the USN just interdict all oil and raw materials bound for China in the Malacca Strait and starve China?

Sounds crazy but that is what I would do IF I wanted to take on China.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 12:45 | 4959501 Duffy Duck
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The US Navy doesn't have to fear the Chinese Navy per se, but China's coastal and sub based and ship to ship missiles.

Some of them even have US tech.

Courtesy of our very bestest ally in the whole wide world.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 12:54 | 4959535 Winston Churchill
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Plus the US weapons systems use Chinese ic's.

No way the Chinese would backdoor them ?

Where on earth would they get such an idea ?

Heavens forbid the USN found itself shooting blanks.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:34 | 4959672 Snoopy the Economist
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China's ICs? Have you ever researched counterfeit parts? It's disgusting what lengths some poor people will go through (including causing themselves irrepairable harm) to pass off an IC chip as being new or even relabeled as a different part. Some counterfeits have been discovered labeled as MIL-STD parts - others I'm sure haven't been discovered yet...but will likely end up failing in some life affecting device (nuclear power plant equipment, military/hospital equipment, etc.).

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:00 | 4959561 BigJim
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 Courtesy of our very bestest ally in the whole wide world.

Hmmm. Would that be a tiny, freedom-loving, racist apartheid State in the Middle East someplace?

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 13:23 | 4959641 directaction
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Yeah, that country. The one filled with God's Chosen People, the ones who have it on highest authority to kill whomever they please, the ones who direct the actions of the leaders of the USA.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 23:43 | 4961599 willwork4food
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oh yeah that dirthole.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 15:18 | 4960120 luftmensch
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Which leads us to the next question, why do we allow 200,000 Chinese students to study advanced engineering in the U.S.??

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