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If You Own A Kalashnikov Rifle, Obama Just Sanctioned You

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If you thought the latest round of US sanctions against some largely unknown Russians and a few new companies listed here, most notably Rosneft and Gazprombank - but not Gazprom, never Gazprom - that would cut off Russian gas to Europe and Merkel doesn't want that - would be largely a non-event, you are right. Unless you own a Kalashnikov, aka AK-47 rifle. In which case read on.

From the updated sanctions FAQ:

If I own a Kalashnikov product, is that product blocked by sanctions?  Am I able to resell a Kalashnikov product at a gun show or other secondary market?

 

If a U.S. person is in possession of a Kalashnikov Concern product that was bought and fully paid for prior to the date of designation (i.e., no payment remains due to Kalashnikov Concern), then that product is not blocked and OFAC sanctions would not prohibit the U.S. person from keeping or selling the product in the secondary market, so long as Kalashnikov Concern has no interest in the transaction.  New transactions by U.S. persons with Kalashnikov Concern are prohibited, however, and any property in which Kalashnikov Concern has an interest is blocked pursuant to OFAC’s designation of Kalashnikov Concern on July 16, 2014.  If a U.S. person has an inventory of Kalashnikov Concern products in which Kalashnikov Concern has an interest (for example, the products are not fully paid for or are being sold on consignment), we advise that U.S. person to contact OFAC for further guidance on handling of the inventory.

 

If I have Kalashnikov products in my inventory, can I sell them?

 

If a U.S. person has an inventory of Kalashnikov Concern products in which Kalashnikov Concern has an interest (for example, the products are not fully paid for or are being sold on consignment), we advise that U.S. person to contact OFAC for further guidance on handling of the inventory.

In other words, the US just froze any transactions involving products made by the world's most popular assault rifle: both purchases and sales. For now, however, one can still buy Russian-made gold and silver. And US rifles, of course.... For now that is.

As for Putin's response, once he is done laughing, we hope to see the newly-launched BRIC bank provide its first bilateral liquidity swaps with the named individuals and companies. Because that would conveniently frame what the endgame will look like.

 

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Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:15 | 4964620 idea_hamster
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What if I own a Kalashnikov-made fully-automatic co-located quote-generator/canceller?  Hottest cyclic rate on the market!

Does that count?  No?  Oh, thank goodness.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:16 | 4964634 TeamDepends
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Oh no he di-int!!!!!!!!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:18 | 4964649 Stoploss
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LOL!!!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:22 | 4964665 NoDebt
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I wonder when they're going to tell Obama his mic has been turned off since Russia took the Crimea without firing a shot (a feat in which I still stand in amazement).

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:28 | 4964679 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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Putin has Obamba by his  Kenyan minature balls. The Chicago thug got bitch slapped again!!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:38 | 4964699 gh0atrider
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What if you're only allowed to own a SKS pinned to 5 rounds?  Or does that make you a virtual homo?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:38 | 4964727 Xploregon
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Pssssssst. Keep it on the down low but I didn't hear the word "Seiga" mentioned. Shhhhhhhh.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:42 | 4964744 Muddy1
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Saiga

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:53 | 4964786 MiguelitoRaton
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...as AK-47 prices shoot up (literally)

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:55 | 4964801 Four chan
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ar

ak

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:00 | 4964823 Rick Blaine
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It depends what you want it to do...

As for this new layer of bullshit, I don't know what all this really means...but I'm willing to bet that Obama thinks he just essentially banned the importation and sales of AK-47s (more more specifically, AKMs).

I'm pretty sure most AKs available on the market right now have nothing to do with the Kalash Concern (Izhmash)...

...like Bulgarian Arsenals, Zastava, etc...and plenty of older, good ones - like Polytechs and Hungarians.

...and if you don't one...or three...yet...I suggest you get them sooner than later.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:07 | 4964846 The Alarmist
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MP5SD-N1 by HK, thanks.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:14 | 4964867 Latina Lover
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What a dirty Bastard! Russia won't care about sanctioning AK 47's,  but this really plays into the gun grabbing agenda.  Obama really is a piece of shit.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:15 | 4964872 12ToothAssassin
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I love me a good ZH gun thread!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:23 | 4964915 TeamDepends
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Lots of "I'll take 'em out at 1200 yards" when most likely it'll be "I had to pump 'em full of 12 ga. buckshot"....

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:29 | 4964931 Save_America1st
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The Dick-taster in Chief strikes again.  Give it up, Commie.  If you and you're Marxist scum want our guns, well...

MOLON LABE

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:23 | 4965099 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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You are clueless as to what Marxism is.

Your reference to the "molon labe" warcry is quite telling as well. Sparta was, by any objective measure, a fascist state.

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:37 | 4965117 Headbanger
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YAAAAAYYY!!

I just made a fortune on my AK, SKS, Mosin and SVT!!!

Damn!!   I better run out and buy up all the Tokarevs I can still get for $120!

 

AK versus AR versu Mosin..  MUST READ!

http://62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm

 

Betcha 7.62x39 Tula and Brown Bear (=Wolf too) double in price overnight!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:48 | 4965177 mjcOH1
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"I'm pretty sure most AKs available on the market right now have nothing to do with the Kalash Concern (Izhmash)..."

Looks like the import ban hammer has just been dropped on the Saiga 12.   Izhmash is the sole supplier.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:25 | 4965523 Rick Blaine
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Yeah...assuming we're not misreading this, this covers all Izhmash and Saigas - and those two combined are a pretty big part of the market.

...especially when you consider all the various calibers of Saigas...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 07:41 | 4966562 N2OJoe
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What the fuck is a US person?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:33 | 4965556 Colonel Klink
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Just bought another case of AK ammo.  The link is absolutely correct.  With AK you buy it by the case, $225 shipped.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:10 | 4965935 MachoMan
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Yep.  Just bought 1k sp and 1k fmj in 7.62x39...  Also ordered a vepr 12 w/ pinned side folder/19" barrel...  had been hankering for one for a while and this nudged me to buy...  was literally checking out when centerfire and classic sold out of them...  ended up finding one through kvar, since no one ever actually goes there since their prices are so high usually.  I think they and atlantic firearms still have a few left for anyone else interested.  Will worry about mags later, hopefully they honor the prices and ship the thing.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 07:57 | 4966598 N2OJoe
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I don't think I'll ever have to buy 7.62x39 or 7.62x51 again for the rifles but I could sure use some more 12ga for the Saiga shotty.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:29 | 4965123 Save_America1st
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Lighten up Francis....4 weeks, 6 days on ZH, and you say something that lame? lol

Don't be a douche.   

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:21 | 4965237 Lore
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Eirek: You quibble on details out of context and seem to miss the core, simple point of SA1's post. Do you do that often? Are you trying to be argumentative, or do you simply lack focus?

Anecdotally, if you want to be specific, Obama is Fabian Socialist.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:32 | 4965324 Bendromeda Strain
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Whatever happened to Fight Club? Give the idiot a knee in the package and be done with him...

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:23 | 4965516 drstrangelove73
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Oh my goodness,what a telling retort!
What a rapier wit you have.
Here's a useful epithet for your next verbal combat.
"So's your old man"
And,"your mother wears army boots"
That should fix 'em
What a dork

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:46 | 4966055 TeethVillage88s
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Interesting.

Helots did not have voting rights, although compared to non-Greek chattel slaves in other parts of Greece they were relatively privileged. The Spartan poet Tyrtaios refers to Helots being allowed to marry and retaining 50% of the fruits of their labor.[56]

source of quotation is Plutarch, Apophthegmata Laconica, 51.11.[5]

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:23 | 4965109 DaveyJones
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but what about a Kardashian rifle? 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:14 | 4965266 pods
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Only pussies get them Davey; with all that padding on the butt it is like shooting a 22.

pods

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:14 | 4965702 PT
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Never mind. You can still buy a shovel, can't you? (Shhhhh!)

Always a great one to ressurrect:

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/179192-DIY-Shovel-AK-photo-tsunami-warning!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:19 | 4964897 Anusocracy
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The State Duma should pass emergency legislation changing the name of the company.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:44 | 4964976 disabledvet
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What if I'm a part owner of the factory?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 19:44 | 4970905 Anusocracy
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Well, a smart businessman would want to keep his customers.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:49 | 4966063 TheReplacement
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Drat!  Foiled again.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:18 | 4964888 Richardk888
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The Chinese make a good one too. Norinco AK-47.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:55 | 4965199 Overfed
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Polytech FTW!!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:27 | 4965533 drstrangelove73
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Two thumbs up.
I have one that's still in cosmoline along with 300 rounds and a banana clip.
Chinese AK is AOK

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:23 | 4964918 RafterManFMJ
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Google AK-47 Bacon Sundae

Or just click and watch here

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ovyeoyl29I&feature=kp

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:54 | 4965195 Overfed
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I wonder why .gov bumped off Ratliff.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:28 | 4965409 Lore
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Very interesting (and amusing). Such a resilient weapon, evidently built to take such abuse!  No wonder the control freaks want to raise barriers to ownership. 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:56 | 4965400 Greenskeeper_Carl
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most of the guns you buy with an 'AK-47' lable arent russian AKs, its romanian, bulgarian, chinese, etc. probably not going to hurt russia at all. especially since its still the most popular AR in the world. It will suck for law abiding american citzens who want to buy cheap surplus ammo, especially the tula factory spam cans, and the old 70's stuff. hmmmm, wonder who exactly this law really targets...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:47 | 4966060 TheReplacement
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It means you cannot buy new arms from Kali.  If you already own one and there is no debt to Kali you are free to sell as you see fit.

The local gunshop told me a couple weeks ago that AKs have been hot while black rifles have not.  My take:  Black rifles are very light, ergonomic, and much more accurate.  They are great for plinking and competing.  Times are changing and people are gearing up to defend themselves.  AKs go bang every time.  Hence the move from black rifles to AKs.

The gunshop also mentioned that denials on background checks have spiked up and the "authorities" aren't being helpful or giving reasons. 

Now we essentially have an import ban on AKs.  They have already banned specific rounds for the 47 and 74 due to armor piercing qualities.  It is a combination of protectionism for American manufacturers, punishing Russians, and limiting arms to the people.  Wonder why?

Everyone is preparing.  The endgame neareth.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:06 | 4966090 SilverRhino
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That's exactly what he's trying to do.    Oddly enough he missed the ones that would really hurt.   MOLOT (imports Mosin Magants) and the makers of Wolf ammo Tulskiy Patronniy Zavod (Tula Cartridge Plant)

I expect the price of Saiga-12's to shoot up quickly. 

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 08:01 | 4966609 StormShadow
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Molot is under Izhmash

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:35 | 4965138 e_goldstein
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tavor, bitchez.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:53 | 4964791 DoChenRollingBearing
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Izhevsk and Arsenal JV. 

It's a nice gun, I own one.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:36 | 4965142 Headbanger
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I like Izzys

I like Tula too

I like everything that goes bang when I squeeze the trigger 

 

Well... Not a High Point really

Although they make a great boat anchor!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:32 | 4965326 DaddyO
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<-I like everything that goes bang when I squeeze the trigger->

Me Too!

A big greenie for you!

DaddyO

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:56 | 4964807 SMG
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All this is theater from our Oligarchs, they are playing both sides.

Their plan is to get the world down to 500,000,000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

using WWIII to do it

http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html

Somebody has to stop them.

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:20 | 4965097 logicalman
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Whether you are right or wrong on your numbers (not agreeing or disagreeing there) WW3 would be a bad option, even for the oligarchs.

Pandemic would leave the place liveable.

Just a thought.

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:49 | 4965183 SMG
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Why did they build up Russia and China?  And why are they poking the bear and the dragon with a sharp stick?   A pandemic only wouldn't require that.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:51 | 4966072 TeethVillage88s
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Why Transfer all our technology to China?

Why share Space Technology with the Russians?

Prolly they think they will be out of it. But Disease and War is interested in them & their kids even if they aren't interested in them.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:49 | 4964992 StormShadow
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"I didn't hear the word "Seiga" mentioned. Shhhhhhhh."

...or Molot...or Vepr. Izhmash only? Just shows how ridiculous this is.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:54 | 4965008 StormShadow
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Err wait a minute...doesn't Izzy own Saiga, who in turn owns Molot (Vepr)?

Hmmm... I'll be right back

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:54 | 4965196 mjcOH1
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"Err wait a minute...doesn't Izzy own Saiga, "

Yes

 

"who in turn owns Molot (Vepr)?"

I believe that's an independent company.   But you could call and ask:

Molot Oruzhie Ltd"-JSC VJATSKIE POLIANY
(machine building plant) 135 LENINA STR.
612960 VJASKIE POLIANY, Kirov Region, Russia
Phone: (883-34) 6-13-62
FAX: (833-34) 6-21-99

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:06 | 4965228 HardAssets
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Sheesh . . . do people know how to do a little web research today ?

Search "Kalashnikov Concern"  - formally named Izhmash.

Saiga is a brand name of theirs.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:22 | 4965286 toady
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Just glad all my izhmash is paid-in-full.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:59 | 4965654 WVHillbilly
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My buddy that owns a gun shop tells me that Saiga's are included in the "executive order".  He has 20 of the 12 gauges coming in sometime in the next couple days, and that will be the end of those shipments (for now).

I'm thinking about getting one, just on principle....

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:44 | 4966051 Eahudimac
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I picked up a Saiga AK with 2 days of sandy hook. Saw that it was a false flag from the get go. And all of the 30 round clips I could get my hands on. It a nice gun. It'll get the job done if/when it is ever needed .

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:49 | 4966062 TN Jed
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Do it. Fun as hell to upgrade. Polish that bolt for smooth low recoil ammo use.  http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:54 | 4964731 DoChenRollingBearing
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gh0atrider

O/T, but perhaps of interest to you: I just successfully used https://www.trucoin.com/  (today to buy BTC with a credit card, 5% fee), all went well.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:50 | 4964777 lasvegaspersona
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virtual?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:32 | 4964947 Abitdodgie
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SKS are better to own than AK47, as the SKS takes about 90 mins to make full auto.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:51 | 4965002 worbsid
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Buy a "bump stock" legal automatic rifle.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:04 | 4965041 Abitdodgie
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A good idea but at this point does anyone give a shit

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:30 | 4965542 SumTing Wong
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If you've fired both, you know they aren't the same.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:36 | 4965139 chunga
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+ 922R

/thatsoblows

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:33 | 4964710 0b1knob
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The picture accompanying this article is NOT an AK-47.   It appears to be an AK-74 variant.

Please don't insult our intelligence by identifying every fire arm as an AK-47.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:35 | 4964720 knukles
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Yeah, I know an AR15 when I see one.  Idiots.  Thank God for the media because now I know all the bad people own black guns.  And that one has wood colored stuff on it.  And a nice fabric trim.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:10 | 4964855 villainvomit
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Not to mention the best thing about ar15's is that you can take them into an environment, shoot twenty six people at close range with over one hundred fifty rounds and it is able to repel all the blood....and it causes no splatter on the walls and no blood on your shoes !!!!!  Check out the CSP photos of AL's alleged clothes and weapons if you have not.  Gotta love the ar's teflon capabilites.  

Oh I forgot to add....the AR also has the ability to become lighter and quieter to only sound like popping noises in concrete buildings....yeah, yeah...and it tricks kids and adults so they are unable to discern police shooting from good guy shooting from bad guy shooting.  That is one bad ass rifle.

Pop pop my ass.......AR has alot of ass and sounds nothing like a pop.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:19 | 4964896 Freddie
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Guns are magic.  When they are "used"- immediately the area becomes filled with crisis actors like this lying douchebag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s89y7uE9u4Q

Robbie Parker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKWgCRBR5qE

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:04 | 4965222 Seize Mars
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Freddie

You want some stone cold fuckery? Check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbGfYMBh5Fo

This is an analysis of a scene played on ABC news. It is shown to be an obvious green-screen production with crisis actors. My favorite part is about 2:15 or so, step through it very slowly and carefully. You can see the woman's leg go through the planter box. (You'll see what I mean.)

Complete. Fucking. Fraud.

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:31 | 4964945 IndyPat
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All true.
They don't even sound that way suppressed.

Wish I could link last weekends video, but..probably not a good idea.

It does make it a little less rowdy, but at an indoor range you still get plenty of sonic crack echoing all over the place, so ear pro is still needed.
Outside not so much.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:06 | 4965447 booboo
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I prefer the real AK furniture, the grip is made of Bakelite, you know that shit that was on your moms electric iron handle. Plus it makes the Kings enforcers soil their panties when the see one.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:58 | 4964820 Trogdor
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Agreed - definitely an AK-74 variant.  I have 4 of them ;)

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:18 | 4964891 RafterManFMJ
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Please don't insult our intelligence by identifying every fire arm as an AK-47.

I'm amazed they didn't call it a tank.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:34 | 4964713 knukles
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Why is America still playing stomping regarding other people's pipelines in which its best geopolitical interests are to remain silent?
What?
You say its being done on purpose?
For what end?
Wait, you mean it's linked to the border influx of the 2 legged sand flea pestilence infestation?
What?
I don't get it.
Whatchu talkin' about this Cloward-Piven thing
No, I don't wanna Google it.
Whadday mean idiot.
I'm not an idiot!
No, I don't believe he wants to destroy us!
Yeah, he's acting like it but...
But what?
Whatcu mean reality is in front of my nose?
You making fun of the hair on my nose?
NO?
You don't like my glasses?
Whaddau mean I need a new pair of glasses.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:09 | 4965458 luckylogger
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Yup they are smooth.............

My god I cannot believe how convuluted obummer is...

What a fuking pusss.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:19 | 4964651 DoChenRollingBearing
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SELL my AK?

Uh-uh, no way.  Molon Labe!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:23 | 4964669 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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Can you say Obamba is a fucking douchebag?  Sure you can!  Long live Putin.  Putin must be lol

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:33 | 4964704 DoChenRollingBearing
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Obama is one of the biggest douchebags in our whole country!  I have my own doubts about Putin (much loved here at ZH), but Obama actually is probably worse.

If our political system were as tightly controlled as in Russia, Obama would be a worse dictator than Putin.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:50 | 4964774 chumbawamba
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LOLZ.  Putin may be "much loved" but just wait until he's your dictator.

As long as humans are born there will always be ample supply of stupidity.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:52 | 4964782 DoChenRollingBearing
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I can find no way to argue with any of that.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:53 | 4964790 lasvegaspersona
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At  least the Putter seems to want that which is best for Russia.

When the dollar dies Obama will not even get invited to parties.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:37 | 4964955 IndyPat
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Still might get a few bar mitzvah invites and still get a call when it's time to barbecue a baby or two. He most definitely will be welcome at any Cinco de Mayo shindig.
He will always have some fans.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:16 | 4965088 AllWorkedUp
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If we don't get rid of the Zionist Neocons soon we are so finished. Worried about Putin as a dictator? Seriously? I'm way more worried and Obama and his Zionist masters.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:25 | 4965113 logicalman
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Anarchism.

No 'leader' - no war

ALL world 'leaders' are psychopaths.

We need to refuse to be the pieces in their insane games.

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:54 | 4964797 bag holder
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RT and the Putin media machine seem to have lost a little luster with that war powers authorization vote a couple weeks ago. Nobody believes 153 of 154 legislators agreed on anything. That's amateur.

Maybe it's just me.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:21 | 4964903 Urban Redneck
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Amateur... just like AUMF which the US legislature passed on a combined 518-1 vote...

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:37 | 4964705 DoChenRollingBearing
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dupe

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:28 | 4964692 nmewn
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It all depends on what the meaning of is...is ;-)

"If a U.S. person is in possession of a Kalashnikov Concern product..."

Person, not a corporation, trust, group, club or governmental entity, the Marines have a bunch of them. And apparently AK's made by anyone/anything other than "Kalashnikov Concern" are A-OK.

Romanian AK's! Forward Comrades!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:38 | 4964723 knukles
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

You belong at Goldman Sachs with that crafty ability.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:42 | 4964741 DoChenRollingBearing
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WHAT'S so funny?  

 

 

(I love my lil ol Russian-American Saiga...)

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:17 | 4964882 12ToothAssassin
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Saigas are just for hunting.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:04 | 4965667 25or6to4
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They are for hunting and modifying to accept large cap AK magazines. Love garage gunsmithing.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:47 | 4966059 12ToothAssassin
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I didnt specify. You can hunt many things...

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:59 | 4964752 nmewn
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I don't know whether to be insulted or honored ;-)

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:15 | 4965264 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Take the money and run...It is just your soul you're giving up.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:45 | 4964750 Urban Redneck
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Everyone below seems to have missed the meaning of "U.S. person", there is no geographic constraint to the 50 states that make up the USSA.

I could get the local paperwork for a nice select fire Kalashnikov cleared in about 1/50 the time BATF is currently taking and pay a fraction of the US price.

It's a past participle thing...

Or I could just ignore and nullify Obozo's impotent rantings.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:59 | 4964821 nmewn
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Good catch Urban.

Along those lines (thinking like a DC statist now) illegal alien MS13 gang bangers would be exempt from this ;-)

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:12 | 4964858 Urban Redneck
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Aren't criminals usually exempt from gun control laws already?

What confuses me is the CIA trolls who need to buy moar guns from Kalishnakov to hand off to their DOJ troll buddies to pass along to their MS13 clients... the institutions may have immunity, but their employees don't...

oh yeah, criminals.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:27 | 4964929 nmewn
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That would be it ;-)

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:46 | 4964979 IndyPat
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Just get some of Obamas little urban achiever beaner babies to carry a few over the boarder for you.
Any importation of damn near anything or any one to and from Me-hi-co is like totally Kosher, obviously.

If you're lucky, you may get one of the select fire AKMs that Obama had the BATFE "export" south of the boarder.
If you are doubleplus lucky, you'll get one that a Mexican military deserter sold to the cartel that is select fire and has "Colt" or "FNH" on the mag well.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:52 | 4964787 Atomizer
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Change the receiver pin to make it, coughs.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:40 | 4964847 Rusty Shorts
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How the M16 Works, part 1

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0HjEkZ6Vr4


Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:23 | 4966454 ebear
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"Molon Labe!"

or as they say in Canada...

Molson Labatts

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:32 | 4964703 Translational Lift
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Apparently this refers to "Kalashnikov Concern products" only.  Most of the AK's in circulation are made by others i.e. China, Czech, Romanian etc. ex-soviet block states.  I wonder if these douche bags know this!!?????

 

Bunch-a-Pikers..........

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:43 | 4964737 knukles
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The cheap knockoffs are OK
The Ron Popiel AK Variant look alike, interchangeable parts assault rifle.... Available only on TV.  Handmade by child craftsmen in the Peshawar open air Pakistani marketplaces with you, the American consumer in mind.  And for an additional $13,722 postage and handling., it can be hand delivered by special needs small flea infested children crossing the Rio Grande at great risks to... 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:54 | 4964798 sleigher
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Cheap knockoffs?

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/179192-DIY-Shovel-AK-...!

You all have probably seen this before though...  The AK-Shovel

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:18 | 4964887 Trogdor
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That's a classic!  Gets so many hits sometimes, all the images go offline because he's used up his "free" bandwidth :)

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:12 | 4964845 lasvegaspersona
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In the late 90s China sold some nice machined Kalishnikovs in .223 and 7.62. These were good solid guns, no bent metal on those suckers. Wish I had bought a couple of dozen.

I did recently buy 10 of the plastic lowers (I think JoeBob sells em) for $80 each. I'll still need to build them but at least I have the registered part. Amortized my Brady down to $2.50 per gun. Now all I need to do is spend $600 each for uppers and $2000 each for scopes and $59 each to complete the lowers and I have some guns.

Midway USA has a DVD, Gunsmithing the AR15'. I watched it a few times, bought $300 in tools and have since then made 25+ AR-15 type rifles. All kinds of uppers, butts and scopes. 'The Barby for Men'. Highly recommended the Larry Potter  DVD  as a reference for the aspiring hack rifle builder. It only misses a couple  of   minor points.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:20 | 4964900 12ToothAssassin
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palmetto state FTW

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:36 | 4964954 Overfed
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Not sure why you would pay $80 for a poly lower, when you can get aluminum lowers from Aero Precision for the same price. Or spend an extra $30 and get a Mega.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:57 | 4964808 villainvomit
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Exactly.....who is next, Chinese Norinco, Romanian Cugir ?? ? ? ??

They stay up late thinking all this bullshit up.  That's what they are good at, thinking.  Time will tell how all this plays out and they are not gonna be good for most.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:01 | 4965034 Miffed Microbio...
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The funny thing is Obama has also banned the SALE of ivory " for the protection of elephants" not just the ban on the importing of ivory. This has made the selling of many antiques such as pianos illegal which,of course, will not save any elephants. I have heard from a few antique dealers this has increased the price of ivory made items on the black market.

Eventually everything will be on the black market and we will see first had life is like living in Argentina.

Miffed;-)

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:06 | 4965053 knukles
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Including my great great great grandmother's ivory toof.  So Mrs K had it made into a big ass umbrella stand/sitting couch combination.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:56 | 4965201 lakecity55
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Shut up, man!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:37 | 4965347 Reckonball
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Hey,It's just us ZH'ers here..What else ya got?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:12 | 4964621 J Pancreas
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Is this a joke? 

 

Dear Friendly Russian ZH Reader,

 

I'm rooting for your country.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

An American

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:16 | 4964631 Pheonyte
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Seriously, I can't believe this is what passes for statecraft today.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:26 | 4964683 astoriajoe
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I don't really know that you can say that its "passing". Its being submitted for statecraft, sure,  but passing?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:00 | 4965214 mjcOH1
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"I don't really know that you can say that its "passing". Its being submitted for statecraft, sure,  but passing?"

It is the nearest approximation to statecraft, when the population's only remaining concern is keeping the EBT delivered on time.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 19:00 | 4964822 overexposed
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Now we know how the Brits felt under Chamberlain, no?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:13 | 4964624 molecool
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This is called sawing on the branch you're sitting on. Very short sighted and childish move.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:58 | 4964811 Poundsand
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Seriously...  He even took to the airwaves for this show stopper.  But that will help explain why all the SISI guys are carrying around M-16's (and their variants) as opposed to the typical weapon of choice around the world, the AK-47.  No doubt they just thought they got two birds with one stone.  Showed those pesky Russians who was boss, and now there is an excuse for how those guys got the weapons.  They had to buy them! 

You really can't make this stuff up.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:15 | 4965078 Nick Jihad
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I would simply guess that the check from Norinco to Organizing For America finally cleared.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:13 | 4964625 ENTP
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So given Obama's handling of Russian sanctions, its pretty much determined that if it ever comes to War, were gonna invade in Winter, right?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:16 | 4964638 J Pancreas
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Yes. Much like ze' Germans invading in September and underestimating Russian resolve, we too are framing our own coffin diplomatically.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:33 | 4964706 MilesN
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Well, a "liitle" correction. Germans invaded USSR on 22 JUNE 1941, 4 A. M.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:51 | 4964778 knukles
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See... Even the dates change due to global warming cooling deicing change heat misery humidity and stagnant air thingamajigglie.

I cannot believe that this is the same buncha folks who some want to run our country...
Er, well....
You know what I mean....
Progressives destroying the only things in which they can complain.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:15 | 4965077 NoWayJose
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Hitler's generals wanted to go in early May but Hitler committed parts of his army in other countries and didn't re-assemble them until June. That extra month of good weather that Germany lost might have changed WWII. But any current US President would never fritter away his military piece meal around the globe? Would he?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:43 | 4965159 Flagit
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I think it was more the rail system. Had the German advance not had to lay new tracks to accommodate their rail cars.....this alone cost them months.

Remember France buying trains that didn't fit on the tracks?

 

+ what Jose just said. There were several factors. Hard to say how it would have changed things, if at all.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:45 | 4965361 HardAssets
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'We' ain't gonna do nuthin'.

The psychopath egomaniac lawyer/liar/politicians in the district of crimininals will bark out orders, just like yappy little dogs

and then the clueless, propagandized kids in uniform will bear the brunt of it all. (Little do they know that most of those politicians never served in the military & they keep their own kids out.)

Ya gotta wonder how humanity lasted this long.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:14 | 4964627 Bunga Bunga
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No Vodka and Russian woman anymore, what will American men do then?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:20 | 4964658 NoDebt
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Buy Chinese women and switch to Whiskey.  That's my plan, anyway.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:51 | 4964779 Bastiat
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You'd better check the supply demand on those Chinese women.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:03 | 4965220 mjcOH1
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With only 600M of them, act now while supply lasts.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:26 | 4965305 lotsoffun
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mjcOH1 - genius!!  and with only 150M males here - i'm all for a few each for each of us.  i'm not greedy.

either that - or we can all be chasing after sarah michael geller wannabe's.  (i'm old.  i don't even know that twerking little stupid cunt bitches are desirable).

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:20 | 4964659 Stoploss
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The one's that don't look like the Crestor guy will probably expat...

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:43 | 4964746 semperfi
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How long before the Russian men buy American women ?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:52 | 4964783 NemoDeNovo
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LOL, the Russian 'Men' would NEVER want an 'meriKan woman err I mean feminist troll, unfortunately we are stuck with all of these attention whore narcissist psychopaths. #Selfie 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:50 | 4965181 Flagit
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I was just attempting to start a relationship with a woman I met on the internet.

She described me as someone who had NO respect for personal boundries.

In her 37 years on earth, she had not been treated with more disregard and disrespect by ANY other human.

My crime?

I googled her name. Seriously.

She had a Fakebook account an an iphone. So, obvioulsy i should have seen the flags, and known how dearly she valued her privacy.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:24 | 4965404 HardAssets
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Flagit - a little friendly advice.  Don't do the 'attempting to start a relationship with a woman' off the internet. Most you meet that way and in bars aren't worth getting in your life.

Instead, get out there and meet them at places where you do an activity that you enjoy. Make it an activity that isn't just primarily done by guys, but where women will be involved too. (Vollleyball, softball, bird watching, whatever - as long as you enjoy it.) Like with anyone, some people you'll click with, and others you won't. No big deal. When the attraction is mutual, she'll let you know. Go from there by suggesting some low key 'first date' get together.   Good luck.

P.S. - be glad that 37 yr old isn't in your life. She was hiding something, thus the 'outraged' act. You can absolutely bet that she does a web search, (or more),  on any fool she meets off the internet. - - - And for crying out loud, dump FB. You know its a freakin' spy grid, don't you ?  People voluntarily turn over personal information about themselves - incredible.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 18:52 | 4964785 knukles
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Semperfi, you'll know it's the real end of days when the Russian men begin buying American men.
Till then, we're safe.

By the way, have Russians any need for maids and gardners?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:19 | 4965092 Nick Jihad
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Really, Russian men can have American women for free, as far as I'm concerned. Let's throw in free shipping to sweeten the deal.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:06 | 4965444 HardAssets
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Like any place, they probably have their gays, somewhere. But its a male dominated, macho culture. And their women enjoy being women, and like men who are men.  I've been there and can't imagine a 'Gay Pride' parade in Moscow.

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