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Israeli Military "Denies Targeting Children" Slammed For "Not Having The Courage To Talk To Hamas"

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In one of the most uncomfortable (and must-see) interviews, UK Channel 4's John Snow 'discusses' Israel's bombing raids and policies towards Hamas with Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev. The interview starts with a punch, "How does killing children on a beach contribute to your purpose of protecting Israeli civilians?" Regev ducks and weaves from question to question, flummoxed when Snow jabs, "if you couldn't tell these were 4 young Palestinian children playing football on a Gaza beach, you need better equipment," only to be slammed towards the end with, "why not be brave and talk directly to Hamas? You haven't got the courage." Not the kind of interview one is likely to see on US TV.




The 4 children hit by Israeli shells while playing on the beach

The aftermath...


And the rather stunning interview...


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Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:21 | 4965508 Troll Magnet
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Fuckin' liars...

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:32 | 4965549 DJ Happy Ending
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I'm amazed he didn't spin this as future crime prevention.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:33 | 4965555 TahoeBilly2012
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Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:48 | 4965614 john39
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if you have the stomach for it, pictures of the murder here:

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:54 | 4965634 john39
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Gilad Atzmon's piece from a couple days ago, "Once Again, Israel is Defeated", now looking prophetic.  This series of events, culminating with this cold blooded murder of three children, is finally opening eyes and hearts around the world:


Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:57 | 4965650 quintago
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The solution to this problem is simple. Cut all aid to Israel off. In 1 week they'll be at the table having face to face talks with Hamas and Iran.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:01 | 4965658 SilverIsKing
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How about a different solution?

Got any others?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:17 | 4965712 JLee2027
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There really aren't any solutions. HAMAS wants Israel removed from the face of the Earth and no amount of talks or bribery will change that. I don't see the same jounralist condeming random rocket attacks that HAMAS launches, so the hypocricy is unbelievable.


Here are the same two, 4 years ago, same type of issue. How much of all this is contrived?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:37 | 4965793 HastaLaVictoria...
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Journalists want good ratings, and the discourse above never fails to excite those who wish the fall of the Jewish State. Luckily the world is getting progressively tired of the violence cycle in the Middle East, whereby Palestinians provoke Israel, get destroyed, rest and rebuild, and start again. A large-scale land incursion might actually be prevented this time by anti-missile technology which pretty much neutered the primitive rockets used by Hamas. As long as Israel can limit civilian casualties it will keep the support of the US and Europe.


Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:54 | 4965853 tmosley
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They were targeting midget terrorists gathering pocket sand.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:56 | 4965863 JLee2027
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Who is they? If you say Israel, that was denied in the interview above.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:09 | 4965926 Serenity Now
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Exactly.  Terrorists routinely kill their own people.  Hamas doesn't care which side the deaths are on.  They "win" either way.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:14 | 4965951 JLee2027
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Ahhh, finally some truth.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:46 | 4966056 TBT or not TBT
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The clips here above don't show any "children" or any sort of humans being killed.   There are blurred out stretchers being carried.     Take a look above.   We do know that even western media outlets have cooperated in producing anti-IDF propaganda, and of course we know which side the Arab journalists are on.   Is this even real?   No evidence of such in this article. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:22 | 4966119 Squid-puppets a...
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try as you might, its undeniable that this is common garden variety genocide

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:31 | 4966138 chumbawamba
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Mark Regev, lol.  What a clown.  He looks even more liek Fred Armisen on Saturday Night Live and he's twice as comical.

I prophecied Israel gone by 2025.  Watch, and be astounded.

I am Chumbawamba.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:36 | 4966145 Government need...
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Israel isn't going away.  Given your level of outrage over these 3 deaths, I'm sure you'll join me in condemning the murders of over 50 Chicago residents over the past 8 weeks.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:47 | 4966159 adeptish
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Chumba outraged?


I think he may be right tho...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:51 | 4966169 chumbawamba
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Eh.  Once I realized Israel was doomed, I became disinterested in the politics of it.  Now I don't even pity the Israeli people, I empathize with them.  Most of them have nothing to do with this madness.  It's like being an American citizen in the US today.  I certainly don't want anything to do with the corporate federal government that does all these terrible things around the world for its own nefarious concerns and has nothing to do with me, yet I'd be the one taking the abuse if I went to the wrong corner of the world because I'd automatically be associated with the government.  Same with Israelis.  Sure, you have your fanatics, and those are the guys you see in the YouTube clips abusing Palestinians in occupied areas that give all Israelis a bad name.  But that's like taking YouTube clips of the ghettoist niggers and the trailerist white trash and what few jingoistic true believer "patriots" there still are and assuming they represent all Americans.

I place the blame squarely where it belongs: on psychopaths like Sharon and Netanyahoo and Obama and Bush and Clinton and Abbas and...

I am Chumbawamba.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:53 | 4966173 chumbawamba
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We could kill a hundred people in the world and instantly conditions would improve for 50% of the globe overnight.

Isn't it amazing to consider that?  Even more amazing, that people don't have the balls to do it?

What a sad race we are.


Thu, 07/17/2014 - 02:20 | 4966213 Richard Chesler
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We care deeply for children of goyim.


Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:01 | 4966436 negative rates
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Our media is lame and hypocritical.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:21 | 4966450 Titus
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Church Chumba. 

You know, I know jews that I like. I've dated jews rather seriously. Can't say the same for Muslims, because the culture is way too restrictive. 

But what gets me is how this whole fucking fight is constantly thrown in my face by fanatics. It doesn't affect me except that I hear about it and the ADL along with other Jewish organisations are bribing and manipulating economic productivity out of the USA. If you want to have your war fine. War has been going on since the beginning of time. But the network of Jews representing US political and financial interests are making their fanatic belief my war. And I couldn't care less, so why shoud I financially contribute? 

Fun fact, Jews are 1.7% of the US population, yet for decades they are 100% of the Federal Reserve Chairs. When was the last non-Jew a Chairman? The 80s?

As always, avoid the noise (and this is), focus on education and the masters controlling the debt based fiat & media system. Without it the currency & will doesn't exist to support their fight. 



Thu, 07/17/2014 - 09:36 | 4967013 piratepiet
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Which one hundred people are you talking about ?  Do you really believe there would be general agreement ?

How would you measure a 50 procent improvement ?  What indicators ? Do you really believe killing one hun

dred people would improve the world massively ?

We are an amazing race. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:57 | 4966181 philipat
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Great interview. What happened to journalism in the US??..

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 07:08 | 4966508 FightingtheFed
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similar to the way they put together all that contrived holohoax shit...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 10:39 | 4967335 Abi Normal
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fighting the fed, you are a moron, you have no education, to believe the holocost never happened.  You are the brainwashed town idiot.

So, it is ok for hamas to fired hundreds of rockets into Israel and they are allowed to do nothing?

Damn it, fuck you Israeli haters to are just as bad as Oblahblah, you all haven't got a fucking clue.  You read some propoganda or a book and think you know it all...unbelievable.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 04:06 | 4966354 Memedada
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Hamas IS (indirectly) Israel. Hamas (like Al Qaida) was created by Mossad/CIA (same thing) to counter the secular (and leftwing) PLO. Zionism needs a religious counterpart – they need Hamas (=they fund them and train them, so that they have an excuse for bombing/removing them. Not the Hamas, but the people standing in the way of the Zionist dream: an ever expanding Israel).

But even though Hamas was the big devil (and lets pretend they evolved out of the blue – or because it’s in the ‘nature of Muslims’ to organize in extremist groups), they are not a serious military treat to Israel. The home-made rockets fired towards Israel have so far (officially) claimed ONE LIFE. Israel is on the other hand on a killing spree – they kill without hesitation and without any criteria (all brown people in sight). They have committed countless war crimes (bombing dense civilian urban areas is a war crime).

They should be excluded from all international forums, be boycotted, shamed and in the end thrown out of the occupied territories.

And talking about killing their own people – try and look in to the murders of the three Israeli teens. What evidence is there? Who killed them? [Hint: try and see if you can find the last sound bite from the kidnapping – you can hear the kidnappers and they’re very good at Hebrew).

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 05:17 | 4966401 effendi
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Mermedada, you are an ignorant fool. If Mossad or other Jews wanted to kill some Jewish teens in a false flag they wouldn't be incompetent to have their voices recorded. 

Lots of people speak fluent Hebrew, just as most Israeli Jews speak fluent Arabic so do most Israeli Arabs (and many non Israeli Arabs) speak Hebrew.

The TVs in Gaza play as many Hebrew language channels as they do Arab ones. I've been to Gaza to stay with Palastinian friends (PLO members), have you? 

As for comitting war crimes, it is a war crime to use human shields, it is a war crime to use civilian areas to launch 5,000+ missiles.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 05:47 | 4966423 Memedada
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I know that – and I too have PLO-friends (living in Europe). And I agree, the fact that Hebrew was spoken is only circumstantial. But the fact that most terrorist attacks are – in one way or another – false flags stays.

”Cui bono” (with benefit to whom?) is always a good analytical starting point, when trying to figure out who the terrorist are.

And the ‘war crimes’ discussion: it’s a question of capabilities, magnitude and control (guilt). Israel wins on all three.

And by the way: Mossad makes mistakes. Lots.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 05:55 | 4966427 Memedada
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And more importantly: I don’t see this as a conflict between Muslims and Jews (that’s how TPTB would like it to play out). It’s a conflict between ‘the have nots’ and ‘the have/wants it all’ – the Zionists siting with (and many of its powerful supporters belonging to) the latter.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 07:27 | 4966534 m_kay
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Israel having helped hamas (in terms of -naively- watching them rise as a useful counterparty to PLO ) doesn`t mean they founded nor control it. Hamas has been founded as a local Muslim Brotherhood branch. That`s why the latest Egyptian government has no desire to help them (and doesn`t want Kerry to meddle, for that matter).

PLO was as leftist/ secular nationalist as their KGB backers needed them to be to create the image of an opressed "authentic people" in the 60/70s leftist ideology of anti-colonialism/anti-imperialism. (Arabs from the region rejected being called "Palestinian" prior thats- also no one called for ending the occupation by egypt/ jordan before `68) They have been made pawns by the neighbouring arab countries, the sovjet block, and the western jew hating mind.

The recently updated 18-page Hamas Kidnapper's Guide to Abduction"advises to be fluent in Hebrew btw.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 10:44 | 4967357 my_nym
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they are...   a serious military treat to Israel.


Your typo could have been more truthy.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 03:21 | 4966291 piliage
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What is being missed in all of this is even Egypt is seriously f*cked off at Hamas this time. Hamas is loosing it's support in the ME.

If some neighbor is throwing rocks at me through a window, and I throw one back at him and hit his kid on accident, I'm sorry, but stop throwing rocks in the first place, asshole.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 04:10 | 4966362 Memedada
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Stupid analogy. A more truthful analogy would be: you occupy your neighbor’s garden, tear down all the trees, build houses on the ground and invite your family to move in. The neighbor then gets upset (what a strange person) and starts throwing rocks at you. You shot his kids in the head.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 05:57 | 4966431 Serenity Now
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Piliage, I made a similar statement yesterday.  Egypt does not support Hamas.  Neither does Jordan or Turkey and one other that I can't recall at the moment.  The entire middle east is NOT allied against Israel, contrary to what the left / MSM would have us believe.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:34 | 4966462 Memedada
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The left? What's leftist about the MSM/TPTB?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:36 | 4968278 piliage
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How dare you support those facts! Shall we also discuss the history of the PLO and Jordan? Too many morons to deal with this beyond David Duke bumper sticker slogans it seems... why bother.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:12 | 4965941 JR
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We all know that if the Israelis kill all the Palestinians, it won’t be enough. It is never enough. They take the Palestinians’ land, they squeeze them into a prison; they will not let them leave. They destroy their food supply, their sewers, their water supplies, their homes. They kill their children. It is not enough.

Still the Israelis claim it is they who are being punished. Still the ovens beckon.

They are a people destined to be provoked; seeking revenge for imagined wrongs is the only thing they know.

Like Gaza, they have imprisoned America. They have taken the freedom from the most beloved country, and still it is not enough. Still they are persecuted, they say. Still they must whip and punish and take revenge, for what, nobody knows. Still the knees must bend to worship them.

They are a people from hell.

And daily the Palestinians live in fear, minute by minute, in fear of their lives. And yet the people of Gaza support Hamas shooting those primitive rockets; they would rather fight with what little they have than to submit, than to surrender to a master. There is no word to express what these people are suffering, the depths of their desire,  not to live as slaves, as beaten animals, but as human beings.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:20 | 4965977 Beard of Zeus
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Payback is a bitch, for Arabs.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:04 | 4966086 JR
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It is Israel—not Gaza and the West Bank—that "casts a chafing nuclear shadow across the entire region" with its nuclear arsenal in the hands of Prime Minister Netanyahu who earlier  played his own role in one prohibited technology smuggling ring targeting America. It is the Arabs and all Arab capitals that are under a far greater threat of nuclear annihilation than Tel Aviv with Israel's hundreds of nuclear weapons, Iron Dome and warmongering aggression.

Is it revenge the Arabs seek, or is it survival?  When the Jewish state was established in 1947, approximately 800,000 Palestinians were forced to leave their homes. The Jewish population of Palestine in 1933 was 175,006.

A 1946 map of Palestine, approximately a year before Israel was created, shows that Jewish communities owned no more than 6% of historic Palestine and represented 30% of the population (many German Jews arrived in Palestine at the behest of the Zionists under an arrangement with Adolf Hitler before WWII in early efforts to build an advance Israeli population in Palestine).

Another map spells out the United Nations partition plan of 1947 which awarded the Jewish community a state on 55% of the land alongside a much reduced Palestine even though Palestinians were the strong majority of the land’s inhabitants.

 A third map (1948-1967) displays the armistice lines from the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. In this map Israel controls 78% of the land.

 A fourth map, shows the area in 2012. "In the 1967 war, Israel took control of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. The Israeli occupation – now in its [47th] year - of the West Bank is being made permanent as Israel systematically takes more and more Palestinian land to accommodate Israel’s massive settlement project to establish irreversible 'facts on the ground'. [In 2012] over half a million Israeli settlers lived in the occupied West Bank. Under international law, it is illegal for Israel to move Israeli settlers into the occupied Palestinian territories as Israel [in 2012 was] on the verge of annexing 60% of the West Bank."

To view these maps:

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 02:05 | 4966196 Reptil
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New, unknown nuclear weapon (Fallujah, Lebanon)

This will have a health impact on future Israëli generations as well, because it remains in the environment. (infertillity, cancer)
EVERYONE is being played in this conflict. All wars are bankers' wars.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 09:51 | 4967093 Reptil
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Why the downvote? Is someone uncomfortable with something that is (most likely) true?
If you think it's rubbish, post goddamn proof. I'd LOVE this to be untrue.
Sick of people denying this crap just because they have some bullshit emotional response. It's the reason it can continue.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 10:24 | 4967270 Cathartes Aura
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I'll upvote your post.

the trollage is thick of late at ZH, but those who've been reading here these past years know that knee-jerk defense of the US military pre-occupation with genocide is fading, and the reality of the facts presented is slowly sinking in.

DU has been used on non-uniformed humans intentionally poisoning both them and the lands they exist on since at least the first "Gulf War" and certainly in the "wars" in Bosnia, etc.

here in the Homeland US there are other toxins being applied, same results:  infertility, birth defects, ill health, death. folks can continue to deny the truth, meanwhile veterans of these wars pass their poison to their partners via deformed sperm, and the effects continue to be documented. . .

wars.  working as intended.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 09:09 | 4966885 Random
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Get this:

I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you - Rev:3:9.

Alae Jacta Est, almost 2000 years ago. This is about you, by name. Care to wager your life and soul on this being wrong? Good luck with it.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 07:11 | 4966517 FightingtheFed
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again i hate it for the Palestinians but I'm more conercerned about how they have destroyed America...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 10:53 | 4967396 my_nym
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again i hate it for the Palestinians but I'm more conercerned about how they have destroyed America...


Not separate issues.  When you do away with American values to follow Jewish supremacists, absorb their culture by osmosis and begin assassinating sixteeen year old Arab goy without trial while trying to divide and conquer all the tribes/goyim and so on and so forth then that becomes linked to your Empire and its eventual destruction.


In any event, we're a long way from the Founders defending the Red Coats and HAVING A TRAIL for them instead of using the Boston Massacre as a pretext to preemptively kill everyone that could possibly be linked to supporting them.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 10:48 | 4967373 my_nym
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There is no word to express what these people are suffering, the depths of their desire,  not to live as slaves, as beaten animals, but as human beings.


Apparently they don't know their destiny, along with Team America too.


Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel,” he said during a public discussion of what kind of work non-Jews are allowed to perform on Shabbat.

"Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat," he said to some laughter.

Yosef, the spiritual leader of the Shas Party and the former chief Sephardi rabbi of Israel, also said that the lives of non-Jews are protected in order to prevent financial loss to Jews.

"With gentiles, it will be like any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew,”

Read more:



Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:22 | 4965986 Duffy Duck
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"whereby Palestinians provoke Israel"

Why do you assume this?  It's been generally precisely the other way around.

And why white phosphorus? Why DU shells?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 03:29 | 4966309 bobnoxy
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Pretty clear terror tactics aimed at getting the Palestinian people to capitulate and pressure Hamas to stop tossing almost comically ineffective rockets at Israel. Who's the real terrorists here, targeting civilians? That no Israeilis have been sent to the Hague in chains is maybe the biggest crime. Thank the U.S., beacon of freedom.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 05:52 | 4966426 No Senator Son
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"I don't see the same jounralist condeming random rocket attacks that HAMAS launches"

"How much of all this is contrived?"

Here is a quote of Dr. Moti Shefer, a prize-winning expert in Israeli defense and aerospace engineering, from

“There is no missile in the world today able to intercept missiles or rockets. Iron Dome is a sound and light show that is intercepting only Israeli public opinion, and itself, of course. Actually, all the explosions you see in the sky are self explosions. No Iron Dome missile has ever collided with a single rocket. Open spaces are a myth invented in order to up Iron Dome’s current interception percentages. The rockets announced as intercepted by Iron Dome either never reach the ground, or are virtual rockets invented and destroyed on the Iron Dome control computer. To this day, no one has ever seen an intercepted rocket fall to the ground.

“What lands here is what’s launched. The parts we see on the ground are from Iron Dome itself. We’re shooting at ourselves, mainly virtually. The virtual rocket was invented in order to increase the vagueness surrounding Iron Dome. Assume that a real rocket arrives. What does the command and control system do? It creates nine more virtual rockets, and transmits their paths on computer graphics to the rocket launcher operators. The launcher operators see 10 rockets and launch 10 Iron Dome interceptors. People hear 10 booms, one rocket enters, and you get a 90% success rate.”

Enough said.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:02 | 4966437 Serenity Now
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Wow, you have to be truly brainwashed to believe that.  

The stupidity defies belief.  But heads up, people, this is what we are dealing with.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 09:28 | 4966963 my_nym
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Israel financed and helped to create Hamas.


A cynic might say that they did it in order to justify their empire building and ethnic cleansing. 


Note their culture: (Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, Sephardic Kingmaker of Israeli Politics)


King maker? But, he's part of the usual Talmudic terrorist networks (the Apostle Paul converted from) and says that dumb goy like you exist only to serve the Jews.  Etc.


And you're suprised that they're killing children while playing pretend about pooping rainbows of dumbocracy, just like America? They've already essentially taken over their goyim golem.  It's Chabad that's lighting huge Menorahs on the White House lawn with nary a peep from Jewish supremacists and tribalists about "separation of church and state."  Let alone the fact that they're establishing a state based on """""religion."""""  And most American Jews are more than happy to say that's wrong and terrible and "imposing."  At least for the goyim, while their own "Jewish state" bulldozes houses and seems to be pretty "imposing" in the background.  Nary a peep... or at least a little snivel about how imposing the establishment of an ethnocratic or religious Jewish state is?  Too busy with suing people over nativity scenes that represent the one Rabbi that some other more tribal rabbis say is boiling in excrement in hell, I suppose.  Apparently they need to be told parables about a Good Palestinian?     

End all foreign aide to Israel. 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:23 | 4965734 Anusocracy
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Get rid of all the Palestinians who want to get rid of the Israelis and get rid of all the Israelis who want to get rid of the Palestinians.

Problem solved.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:46 | 4965821 Moccasin
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Hate and war are very profitable. It is easy and cheap to manufacture hate and then use the haters money to build bombs is good business for the state. Its the same for all sides who choose this path. Fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) motivates unthinking people. USMC General Smedly Buttler is correct, war is a racket.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 04:39 | 4966377 Caggge
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Thunderdome!!  Two assholes enter, one asshole leaves.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:04 | 4965907 TahoeBilly2012
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Yea right there run our Government, l1ike separating Siamese twins.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:04 | 4965909 Payne
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Don't buy anything of Israel origin, patent or trademark

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:39 | 4966031 Oh regional Indian
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Israel perfected industrial espionage waaaaay before china anyways. Core nature is parasitical.

Anyone remember the "Israel Designed" Nefer? And check this out:

"By 1968, Dassault had finished production of the 50 Mirage 5Js paid for by Israel, but an arms embargo imposed upon Israel by the French government in 1967 prevented deliveries from taking place. The Israelis replied by producing an unlicensed copy of the Mirage 5, the Nesher, with technical specifications for both the airframe and the engine obtained by Israeli spies.[1] Some sources claim Israel received 50 Mirage 5s in crates from French Air Force (AdA), while the AdA took over the 50 aircraft originally intended for Israel.[2]"


And better yet, this:

"There were unconfirmed reports that a number of the original Mirage IIICs, re-engined with the J79 and given the name Barak ("Lightning"), took part in the Yom Kippur War of 1973, but some sources point out that there is no real evidence that these aircraft ever existed.[7]"

Barak : Lightning.

Feeling Struck yet?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:18 | 4965970 Beard of Zeus
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How are these killings any different from the Arab slaughter of three Israeli children?



Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:41 | 4966042 Duffy Duck
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Hamas did not, it seems, kill those kids - and no one here would claim their murder was anything but a barbaric crime.

But your tacit suggestion that it justifies murdering boys playing soccer on a beach is revolting.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:15 | 4966107 TBT or not TBT
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Taking as given, of course, that anyone died there and then, let alone "children", or the notion they were playing soccer.   The videos show no one being killed, and no demonstration the bodies on the stretchers are even dead, never mind their age and so on.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:57 | 4966182 PhilofOz
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Idiot!!! So we can say exactly that about the three Israeli youths murdered (by whom?) that started this by your missing logic! 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:54 | 4966175 PhilofOz
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Not proven at all.... in fact a lot of evidence to suggest it was another false flag event to start exactly what is happening right now to the Palestineans.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 05:24 | 4966404 Memedada
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Quantitative: the numbers.

Qualitative: the nature (a high-tech, well-organized and trained army killing children on an industrial scale is very different than ‘the happenstance’ of the – and by the way often false flag – terrorist attacks of Hamas).

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 09:52 | 4967112 my_nym
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You may want to actually have a trial before you begin assassinating people without trial, given Israel's history of false flags and getting out in front of their "war on terror" too quickly.  Not that the dumb goyism golem of Team America is ever allowed to see the truth in their Judaize media, if they're even paying attention in the first place.


The Gaza Bombardment - What You're Not Being Told

Team America should note this, even if represents and finances the interests of Israel first, as American cities collapse in the background... you'll still get blamed first by the controlled Left and tribal Judaics like "911... uh, boxcutters or somethin'!" Chomsky.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 10:01 | 4967163 my_nym
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It would seem that you've absorbed an exceptional culture of Jewish supremacy by osmosis.  You might want to stick with due process and not begin killing people or assassinating sixteeen year old Arab kids without trial though. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:39 | 4966036 Duffy Duck
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Please - the ZOG will never cut off aid to the Motherland.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:39 | 4965585 lipskid
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The Israeli government will graciously offer to compensate the children with 10 shekels per lost limb.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:46 | 4965609 john39
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kidding yourself. The parents will be sent a bill for the cost of the munitions used to murder their kids... despited the fact that U.S. taxpayers paid for the bombs originally.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:02 | 4965900 disabledvet
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Fingers and toes are not included!

Any move directly into the Gaza Strip I think would be politically suicidally.

The Jews have no problem killing women and children ("just do et lead them as much!") but to me this is murder plain and simple. I did take more Bibi fired the "murderer in chief" dude who was maniacally advocating this approach.

War is simple folks..."take and hold territory." The only interest Israel has in the region is the Sinai Penninsula...and I would take it...have it handed over to the United Nations with US soldiers as the guaranteur of the free movement of good though the Suez Canal.

Everything else is just a suicide mission. With the Suez safely at their back Gaza could finally be free from being the Warsaw Ghetto it is now and there would at least be the hope of creating peace between two peoples who simply want to annihilate each other.

Obviously since this makes sense it will never happen. It is interesting how quiet Hezbollah has remained in all this. I think they're sensing a Hamas "martydom" and an Israeli public relations catastrophe.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:56 | 4965860 luckystars
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Nah they will make the Germans pay.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:38 | 4966034 Colonel Klink
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Achtung!  We're currently just hanging back and giving Israhellhole enough rope to hang themselves, and they're doing a fine job.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 05:03 | 4966391 El Crusty
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is that new shekels or old shekels? the exchange rate is different between the two...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 10:04 | 4967180 my_nym
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Provided they don't harvest and monetize the organs of the goyim first.

Why are one million Arabs not worth a single Jewish fingernail ? "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." --Rabbi Ya'acov Perin From AnswersYahoo. Apparently 'Muricans want to know. 


Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:42 | 4965757 Paveway IV
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The IDF figured they were legitimate targets. They warned everyone in Gaza to evacuate and had shelled that beach before. These children (potential future HAMAS members) were moving in an erratic manner in an open area and appeared to be attempting to hide a soccer ball-shaped IED in one of two net-like weapons caches. 

The 9, 10 and 11 year old terrorists provided excellent targets for white phosphorus munitions, but the IDF has avoided using WP because of all the bad PR from images of burnt children.

Today's IDF child-killing (and apparently wheelchair-bound senior-killing) final solution wepon of choice: Dense Inert Metal Explosives, or Metallic Zyklon.

Instead of shredding people with shrapnel from an iron bomb casing, DIME bombs either shred or shower people with super-heated micro-shrapnel made up of tungsten alloyed with cobalt and nickel. Called either Heavy Metal Tungsten Alloy (HMTA) or WA bombs - W is the atomic symbol for tungsten + (A)lloy. Bonus: these tungsten-alloys are so carcinogenic that they reliably produce fast-spreading cancer in mice within six months. It is assumed to have the same effect in humans, but studies on the Palestinian victims from the 2006, 2009 and 2011 Israeli DIME bombings just never seem to appear in medical literature. Almost as if the U.S. and Israel don't want anyone to know they're using them. Imagine that.

They finally have a guaranteed Palestinian final solution: the Cancer Bomb. If the leg amputations don't kill them, they'll be dead in a few months from then non-x-ray detectable micro-shrapnel or burning metal fumes and the resulting fast-metastisizing cancer. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:05 | 4965915 Paveway IV
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For all the down-voters: Your war spoils. Enjoy!

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 03:12 | 4966285 conscious being
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Paveway- maybe the ZOG is effing up the votes!?  As per recent GW article.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 03:47 | 4966335 Paveway IV
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In order for the ZOG to down-vote me, they would have had to read enough of my post to understand that the thousand or so GBU-39 DIMEs the U.S. sold them (and whatever metallic Zyklon warhead variants they've developed) are being used regularly against other human beings.

Since Israel has one of the most repressive governments and heavily-censored press on earth, one or two of them may have learned something.

Screw the down-votes - ZH isn't American Idol (yet).

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:52 | 4966484 drendebe10
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Get over it.  Don't post if u cant take the heat. The incompetent corrupt arrognt narcissistic illegal alien muslim sociopathic liar in chief hasn't YET revoked the 1st amendment. Yet.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 10:18 | 4967214 my_nym
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Screw the down-votes - ZH isn't American Idol (yet).


But the "Lets make a Rachel Corrie pancake."* Jewish supremacists of the IDF might as well be.


Simon Cowell gives $150K to soldiers | The Times of Israel
www.timesofisrael.comJewish Times
The Times of Israel  Oct 25, 2013 - Media mogul and 'X Factor' judge attends IDF gala, even agrees to sing in ... For media mogul and celebrity judge Simon Cowell, the Israel ...
Not that they know any better, just like Donald "We still treat them like dogs." Sterling.  It's their culture.  And Islamic culture usually isn't any better, probably because it was created by the same sort of "Here's a cube to worship, dummies.  Hey look, there's one on my third eye." cabal.      *Israeli soldiers have depraved “fun” making “Rachel Corrie ...
Alex Jones 
Jul 20, 2013 - Israeli soldiers had a “fun” time making what they called “Rachel Corrie
They don't even get it.  Supposedly she had WMDs in her underpants, according to the last Jewish supremacist I debated.  A preemptive strike against terrism, that never gets old. Interesting that there's some things that even Alex Jonestown will report on, given that he's apparently absorbed Jewish supremacy by osmosis too.  Equality before the law, justice and logic is apparently too much to ask, even among "patriots."  (Or especially among patriots?)
Thu, 07/17/2014 - 10:39 | 4967338 Cathartes Aura
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. . . the curtain is being pulled back, and those brave enough to look un-blinkered at what has been behind the me-duh tales told all their lives

can finally see Truth, staring them in the face.

may it sear / seer the minds.  galvanised awareness.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:39 | 4966469 Memedada
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Don't count your votes - anything critical of TPTB (including Zionism/Israel) is likely being down-voted automatically (look at the latest released Snowden-files) by some MI6/CIA/NSA/Mossad-software.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:07 | 4965921 disabledvet
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Evacuate where exactly?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:30 | 4966016 Paveway IV
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Did I really need to put a /sarc/ tag on that?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:42 | 4966047 Duffy Duck
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The Israelis are in fact using weapons designed to result in fewer Arab babies - an aspect of the story here I keep waiting for people to discuss in earnest.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:58 | 4966081 Paveway IV
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You'll be waiting a long, long time Duffy. Kind of like waiting for the discussion on the theft of the Palestinian natural gas fields off the coast of Gaza. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:45 | 4966475 effendi
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Checked out DIME bombs on Wikipedia. There is no proof (only speculation with some evidence) that Israel has even used dime bombs.

Assuming that they have used them you have to ask why. Most likely because it minimises casualties outside the limited blast range. So you hit the target (with lethal effects) but bystanders (across the street, in the next room) are uninjured. Sounds like a weapon to minimise civilian casualties in an urban conflicts.

If Israel wanted to maximise casualties they would not use Dime bombs. As for a final solution weapon I'm sure they have the necessary supplies but not the intent to apply it. If Hamas got those tools however they would use it if they could.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 10:28 | 4967287 my_nym
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It must be hard to play pretend that they care about and basically want to nurse back to health at their teat they very people that they want to ethnically cleanse.  


Israeli Politician Calls For Genocide Of Palestinians


More indefinite detention, torture, etc., incoming....    

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:42 | 4966043 Silver Bully
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This is called the Chicago Way.

They kill 3 of yours, you kill 4.

They kill a prime minister, you kill a city block.

They rain rockets on your cities and kill a few dozen, you imprison a few hundred for 40 years.

See how this goes? The Israelis know how this ends if they 'appease' their neighbors who want to drive them into the sea. It isn't pretty to watch. But Israel never meant to be nice. They mean to survive in the toughest region on earth. Looks like they're doing a bang up job, too.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:44 | 4966048 Duffy Duck
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Funny - it wasnt the toughest region on earth before the Brits and the Zionists fucked it up.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:20 | 4966117 TBT or not TBT
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It was pretty barren back then.  Didn't support much population.    It took innovation and hard work and western institutions and.capitalism to make the part we call Israel so nice, and well populated.  

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 02:31 | 4966228 Serenity Now
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Yep.  Israel has the highest standard of living in the middle east.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 04:41 | 4966378 conscious being
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Re. Israel highest standard of living!!

First you are confused about standard of living.  Pariah status and blood of innocents all over your hands is something anyone with ethics would not accept.

Given your narrow tunnel vision focus on shekels, well of course.  Stealing from the neighbors, the American tax payer, the Germans, etc. is going to get you some.  Bombing the neighbors is going to reduce theirs.  

I can tell you are so pleased with your pile of shekels, but remember, its pride before the fall Numb Nuts.  

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 10:03 | 4967175 luckystars
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Then why are we sending them out tax dollars?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:55 | 4966488 effendi
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It has always been a tough region. Slavery, warfare and persecution was normal under Mamluke and Ottoman rule. Mohammed Ali slaughtered 5,000 rivals in the early 19th century to consolidate power (after he double crossed them with peace talks). The Ottomans used to disarm minorities before exterminating them, happened in every decade of the 19th century. The Lebanese (1860s), Armenians (1915) and Greeks (1922) were all victims of ethnic cleansing. The Israelis (2014) won't be.


Thu, 07/17/2014 - 04:49 | 4966375 Bokkenrijder
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Most of you Americans here have NO clue of what life is like dealing with Arabs, and automatically default into a rant against Israel. 

Ask the average Dutch, Belgian or French citizen what it's like living in a country that is increasingly being taken over by Arabs and islamist extremists! Ask them about the coward tactics of a gang of Arab youths beating up/robbing one kid! Ask the police in those countries what it's like to be continuously be called a "rascist" if they arrest one of those fanatic devotees of "the religion of peace."

Arabs always love to use innocent people as human shields, hide weapons in mosques or schools. Here is one more example of people deliberately gathering on the rooftops in order to prevent an Israeli attack:

Ask yourself: what do they have to hide that makes them act as human shields? What is stored in that house? What fanatic lives there?

Perhaps now people can understand the possible context in which those 4 kids were, unfortunately, killed?

Remember those human shields from Iraq, and that scared British boy standing next to Saddam Hussein? These 'guests' served as human shields.

Anyway, in the US you have, relatively speaking, only a handful of Arab immigrants, who after 9/11 probably keep a very low profile. In Europe and the Middle East it's a different matter and the true nature shows...

Israel has shown that democracy can work, unfortunately Iraq, Syria, Lybia and Egypt also show that in Arab countries only a brute authoritarian dictatorship can work. The Arab peninsula and Iran will disintegrate into the same chaos once their autocratic and vicious leaders are removed from power.

And these are the very countries that Israel has to live next to and negotiate a lasting peace with...? Hellooooo! Reality check please!

Disclaimer: I'm neither Jewish, not a right wing extremist, not a Christian fanatic, not a politically correct naive left wing socialist.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 04:50 | 4966383 conscious being
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Israel is fucking these people up constantly.  That makes MORE people flee ... to Europe.  How many are running from Syria and Iraq right now??  

So, if you don't like Arab refugees in Europe, stop supporting Israeli aggresion.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:08 | 4966395 Bokkenrijder
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Come and live in a European getto of immigrants (not assylm seekers or refugees!) these are immigrants with usually dual citizenship, and see for yourself!

Watch them do the Hitler salute (something forbidden for regular white European tax slaves, but the police and politicians quickly turn a blind eye for inconvinient matters when it involves minorities), wave swastika flags (here: or shout "Hamas, Hamas: gas the Jews" on 1:05 here:

Is this normal behavious for immigrants that, suposidly, want to start a new life in that decadent cesspool called Europe?

Please don't come with the usual "bla bla bla, it's Israel's fault" crap, because Israel is a loooong way from Europe and Europe is not a colony of Israel.

Oh, and one more thing: remember those nice civilized folks from ISIS that declared that Califate? Here are people doing a PRO-ISIS demonstration: and this (if you can bother to read it, or have the language skills) was a German attempt to form a Caliphate in the city of Cologne, foiled by the Germans:

We're dealing with a deeply rooted hatered agaist anything Western, and it's complete bullshit to blame Israel. Most of those fruitcakes are NOT Palestinians, nor do they have any Palestinian relatives and they probably couldn't find Israel on a map. They merely use the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as an excuse for they own hatered...

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 01:04 | 4972098 Trogdor
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Pardon my wandering off subject, but it seems that you're mistaking elitist "divide and conquer" for something else. In the US, we get illegal aliens brought in *by the government* in order to destroy the culture - and leech the middle class to death (and who knows what else). This is the same techniques being used in Europe - they want a return to the days when there were the filthy rich "gods" and the "dirt people" - and nothing in between. The Mexicans here get "La Raza" to radicalize them (Soros funded and US Government protected) and in Europe, you get radicalization in Mosques by religious leaders who are protected and funded by the same people in government. The "immigrants" are just a means to an end: Suck the middle class dry with the FSA - destroy the culture, the economy, and people's ability to resist in any meaningful way. Never lose focus on WHO exactly, is responsible for these situations - they could be reversed in an instant - but they benefit the PTB. The Arabs and Mexicans are tools - the douche-bags wielding those tools are the Banksters, Corporatists, and their eager little whores in government who think they'll get a place at the table if they just suck a little harder than the whore next to them.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:52 | 4966486 Memedada
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It IS racist to make the conclusion that social issues are ethnic issues. Poor neighborhoods with a populace suffering high unemployment, lack of (or no) possibilities to engage in society in a meaningful way, scarce (if any) access to education, cultural and political institutions will marginalize you no matter what ethnicity you belong to.

You play right into the paradigm supported by the fascist/bankers – divide and conquer.

You are a racist. I suspect you don’t care (or that your worldview even gives some merit to racism), but for all of us who wants to direct our anger towards the real culprits of the sad state of affairs of the world, we should shun the above comment and all tendencies to blame whole ethnic or religious groups (and no: Zionism is NOT a religion but an ideology).

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 07:10 | 4966513 effendi
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Bull, even if you were raised in poverty in Europe you have plenty of opportunities to improve your situation (study hard, get a scholarship/do an apprenticeship/join the military or public service) and then embrace what Europe has to offer. Millions of decent migrants do just that. Millions more are just scum that will blame their living situation (permanent welfare class) on racism/discrimination.

Even if you are living in the wrong neighbourhood of most European cities (Paris Brussels etc) you have a choice, burn cars with the other losers or go to a magnificent library/museum just a metro ride away.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 09:01 | 4966842 g speed
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or if you live in the US and are a member of the tribe you could be a FED banker---anyone else not so much--

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 09:11 | 4966895 Memedada
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And when you’ve been to the library and read up on history and current affairs then you’ll go and join the rebellious youth (burning cars etc.).

And no – opportunity is not equally distributed in Europe. Of course there’re more opportunities in the center of the Empire – that’s why the populace of the periphery migrates towards the center.

The Empire is however crumbling and soon it will be the populace of the West ‘fleeing’/migrating eastwards towards possibilities/survival

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:45 | 4966476 drendebe10
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How many children killed by the nearly 400 drone attacks ordered by the incompetent corrupt arrogant narcissistic illegal alien muslim sociopathic liar in chief???  Where the F is the outrage for that?  How many Israeli choldren killed by terrorist bombs and missiles by whoever terrorists??? Where the F is the outrage over that??? F the media, their stooge news readers, and the horse ithey all came in on!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:24 | 4965520 SHEEPFUKKER

I guess the moral of the story is sometimes you have to kill 4 kids on a beach to save all of the other kids and women, who will then be accidentally killed. 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:56 | 4965649 Renewable Life
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He won't have an interview in the US like that, because the American Media knows god damn well, we have killed our fair share of children too, by drones or night cam attack helicopters, etc etc

We don't want to go down that road, do we??

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:09 | 4965924 disabledvet
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Yeah but they were really bad people.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:46 | 4966054 Duffy Duck
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oh, I don't think the US media is wary of being accused of hypocrisy - I think Jewish/Zionist direct and indirect control of EVERY MSM news source is the simplest and best explanation for why you'd never see it here.  Or in Canada. Or Australia.  Or France...  the Israel Lobby, and disproportionate Jewish and Zionist power is multinational.


And well funded and coordinated.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 11:32 | 4967644 conscious being
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Of course Daffy.  The reporter would be fired immeadiately and the interview would never see the light of day.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 09:11 | 4966898 g speed
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R L ---the doesn't really count cause that only happend in "Jew hating"  ME countries  that have oil-----    Not a lot of drone work going on in "pro Isreal" areas of the world---hummmmm----You'll never see a drone in NYC I bet --but Detriot might be another matter--just saying--

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:25 | 4965524 frankTHE COIN
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Clubb'n Baby Seals Always Backfires.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:32 | 4965547 SHEEPFUKKER

Fuck yeah grandpa has a pair. 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:38 | 4965563 NoWayJose
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Always interesting to see a scene where there are two ambulance personnel and six photographers toting professional video equipment.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:35 | 4965564 Puncher75
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This anti-Israel bullshit is truly sickening. Anyone deny Hamas wants every Jew dead? Anyone?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:38 | 4965579 TungstenBars
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Anyone deny Israel wants to ethnically cleanse Gaza and Palestinian lands? Anyone?

Fucking Zios need to be finally eliminated for good for the sake of humanity

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:03 | 4965663 SilverIsKing
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Good one. You can do better.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:10 | 4965932 Bunker Boy
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You are an Islamic troll. If you are not Islamic, you simply have the anti-Jew gene. Most people on this site have it tool, including the Tylers. It's not uncommon throughout history and into present day.
Hamas says Israel, and the Jews, must he completely destroyed because they are Jewish and "occupy" their ancestral homeland.
Israel evicted 8000 Israelis from the same ground that is now being used as a launching platform against the entirety of Israel for the same of peace. In return the gazans voted for an Islamic group that was dedicated to The destruction of the Jews.
To say a sovereign people that has almost been exterminated numerous times throughout history is now defending itself against a terror group that has vowed to exterminate them is morally wrong is simply indefensible.
What is wrong with you all? Would you for a moment accept rockets raining down on your nation's cities and your children. Of course you wouldn't.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:18 | 4965953 balanced
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"Islamic troll"? And you're calling HIM the rascist? And as far as what I would do if rockets were raining down in my city. I would hope that I would have the courage to truly address the issue - like stop oppressing the people sending those rockets over. At the very least, I wouldn't BOMB CHILDREN you asshole.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:24 | 4965996 Bunker Boy
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Im calling him a Jew hater, and you as well piece of shit. The only democratic country fighting for its life against Islamic subjugation and your supporting them I'm calling you what you are: someone who will lay on his stomach and get fucked in the ass because you no longer have a spine. You must be a an American. Pussy.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 09:15 | 4966914 g speed
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B B ------well I'm an American from the US--and I detest the FED---does that make me a "Jew hater"----just asking for an opinion from the self appointed hate detector--  

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 11:38 | 4967687 conscious being
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Hating zinos is not hating Jews.  Even some Jews hate zinos.

For the record at this point, people hate BunkerBoy 21 - 3.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:33 | 4966017 Renewable Life
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"Anti-Jew gene" that's a first!!!

So screaming anti-Semite at anyone who questions the madness must be losing some luster, so now it's an actual genetic disorder to oppose Zionism as a political and religious structure??

Interesting, someone in Hollywood must of "invented" that!
Religiously justifying your own moral superiority over others, by the way of stating the "white bearded guy in the sky" says I'm "chosen" AND said I could do it, is so insane, dillusional, phychopathic, UnAmerican, and self righteous, it's hard to believe any freedom loving American can sit here and support that shit, but this is Obama's America, so of course they do!

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:56 | 4966076 Duffy Duck
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home made rockets against the 4th most powerful military on earth... this isn't Israel "defending itself"  - it is Israel continuing to slaughter the people it ethnically cleansed, via terror and mayhem, in living memory.


As for anti-Semitism - in true form, of course, it is as reprehensible as any form of gorup hate, not merely for moral reasons but for a logical one - it makes no sense to deny the qualities and character of a given individual for the sake of some group concept. It's reprehensible.

But 'as' a group - the notion that anti-Semitism was, across time, and dozens of nations, always a pure matter of irrational, baseless hate, is far too facile a view. Sometimes, the victim does deserve *some* blame, even if it does not rise to the level of justifying a violent act.

Indeed, Jewish xenophobia, insularity, and moral solipsism preceded the "anti-Semitism" Jews faced - going back to centuries before Christ. Across time and space, the accusations were generally quite similar. You can dismiss this as a "gene" - absurd as that is on its face - or you can wonder if the attitude one finds in the Book of Joshua or Deuteronomy might have in fact been a cause of later conflict, not to mention the peculiar ethos found in the Talmud as to non-Jews.


Am I free to criticize violence and bloodlust as fetishized in the Koran?  Of course...  well, I'm also free to criticize the hate, supremacism and xenophobia enshrined in Jewish religious texts - even if, in that event, an army of trolls will fling "anti-Semite" at me.


They just want to be immune from criticism, while freely criticizing everyone else.



Thu, 07/17/2014 - 11:50 | 4967815 conscious being
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Daffy, they're not even Semites.  The people getting slaughtered in Gaza are Semites.  Most Jews are Ashkanazi, descended from Khazars.

The anti-Semetic slur they throw around is a convoluted way to hide their true identity, an identity that traces back to the Caucasus Mtns., not Palestine.

Bunker Boy is now going to call the truth anti-Semetic while cheering on the murder and maiming of the real Semites.  

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 03:55 | 4966346 Urban Redneck
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Jewish Home isn't some fringe party. They are a member of the governing coalition and hold 10% of the seats in the Knesset, more seats than 3/4 of the other political parties hold.

Open advocacy of genocide by senior members of a ruling coalition in a sovereign State is for some reason acceptable and tolerated in such moral cesspools as Israel and Ukraine.

Not that it matters, when the ends justify the means... which is exactly the same justification used by the worst of the Muslim crusaders.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:24 | 4965991 Beard of Zeus
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Fuck you.


How is this any different than the Arab slaughter of three Israeli kids?


It isn't.


Payback is a bitch, for Arabs.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 09:28 | 4966964 g speed
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B Z --be careful what you wish for---this time there may not be an US "public opinion" supporting Israel- ----If Israeli hard liners go nuke while using claims of self defence, its over --then pay backs will be the end----really the end for the tribe---just saying--

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:38 | 4966467 Cynthia
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If somebody bull dozed your home, tortured, murdered family members then forced them into a giant prison, would you retaliate? Israeli Jews have gotten a free ride with their crimes against humanity. Now they must be brought to justice, prosecuted and punished.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 07:13 | 4966519 effendi
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Spoken like a good member of Hamas. Eliminating the Jews is their policy after all.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 11:59 | 4967906 conscious being
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You are making shit up.  Link??

Crickets ...

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:42 | 4965593 tvdog
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Hamas denies it. They just want the Jews to go back to Europe and give the land back to its actual owners.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:20 | 4965723 JLee2027
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The Jews predate them by centuries. Come on now.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:26 | 4965747 BigJim
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The European Ashkenazi 'Jews' lost any claim they had on the land when they left it 1400 years ago.

No one's questioning the right of the original Mizrahim to live there.. but they are a tiny minority... and a lot of them aren't even zionists.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:29 | 4965765 JLee2027
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The European Ashkenazi 'Jews' lost any claim they had on the land when they left it 1400 years ago.

They didn't "leave it". It's called being conquered and kicked out.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:48 | 4965828 Anusocracy
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That's been the M.O. of governments for 10,000 years. So what?

Get a different talking point.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:57 | 4965870 JLee2027
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GOD gave it to them. Dispute that.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:01 | 4965891 Christophe2
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Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:03 | 4965901 tickhound
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First I'd like to see some proof.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:08 | 4965925 JLee2027
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No amount of "proof" will convince you. Just asking that question shows your intention.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:13 | 4965946 tickhound
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Try me.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:15 | 4965960 JLee2027
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I'm not here to prove anything to you. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:21 | 4965979 tickhound
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Well in that case I dispute your claim based on lack of supporting evidence.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 02:39 | 4966241 All_Your_Base
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He did prove he was an irrational bitch entitled by a delusion. So there's that.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:59 | 4966083 Duffy Duck
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Yahweh gave it to the Hebrews, not to the Ashkenazi, and certainly not with good and clear title.  The OT records the genocide and ethnic cleansing the Hebrews engaged in to get the land the first time.

Doing it the second time didn't rise to the level of Divine Sanction either.


You have to consider, with the gnostics, that perhaps The Other Guy wrote the Old Testament.


Lastly, by your logic, the Palestinian Arabs have every right to return to the land they were expelled from - on Allah's command.  They don't have to offer you any proof either.


Cute how that works, eh?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 02:19 | 4966212 Government need...
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After He took it away from them (on a few different occasions).  While there were times in history one could get ahead by persecuting and oppressing Isreal, I wouldn't take that bet now or anytime in the future.  There is an awful lot of very old predictions that seem to have accurately foretold the return of Jews to an Israel based on and near the foundations of the ancient Israel.  To some thread posters, this would be dismissed as hokum, and that's fair, it is circumstantial evidence.  But who would have picked Israel to have survived through the 1950s, 60s, and 70s?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 09:32 | 4966985 g speed
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The Rothchilds---

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 05:26 | 4966405 Memedada
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GOD doesn't care.

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