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Putin Responds: "US Sanctions Will Boomerang And Cause Very Serious Damage"

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It took just a little over an hour for Vladimir Putin to respond to the latest, most provocative and toughest round of US sanctions yet. The response, appropriately enough, came just after the BRICS summit in Brazil, where the world's developing countries yesterday announced the formation of both a BRIC bank and a $100 billion currency reserve to provide a liquidity alternative to the insolvent developed world's central banks. Here Vladimir Putin was asked to comment on the new package of sanctions against Russia announced just minutes earlier by Obama.

Putin's response: "We aren’t the ones introducing sanctions, you should ask them."

"Sanctions have a boomerang effect and without any doubt they will push U.S.-Russian relations into a dead end, and cause very serious damage, and it undermines the long term security interests of the US State and its people." he said to reporters while elaborating that said he needed to see the details of the sanctions to understand their full scope Reuters added.

And as was largely expected, Putin's next jab was right where it hurt: energy.

"This means that U.S. companies willing to work in Russia will lose their competitiveness next to other global energy companies."

Putin said the sanctions will hurt Exxon Mobil Corp which has been given the opportunity to operate in Russia. "So, do they not want it to work there? They are causing damage to their major energy companies," he said.

While we don't know for sure, we are confident that following the press conference Putin sat down with the rest of the BRICS, which command a population of just over 3 billion not to mention the world's fastest growing economies, and realized that for all the posturing, it is really a game of reserve fiat vs energy, with the US controlling the former, while the BRICS, and especially Russia, dominating the latter. And as long as the BRICS don't have their own monetary system, they will be reliant on the every swift (pun intended) whim of Janet "price-to-equity ratio" Yellen and her central planning kind.

We are just as confident that he and his peers are currently contemplating how to no longer be bound by the former ever again.

In the meantime, and to further distance itself from western reliance, Moscow ordered state officials to only use Russian-made cars. From Reuters:

Top Russian officials may soon forfeit the sleek black Mercedes limousines that speed them through the Kremlin gates in favour of home-produced cars as part of a push to protect domestic industry threatened by Western sanctions over Ukraine.

 

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said he had signed an order limiting purchase of imported cars for state and municipal officials - a move in line with Vladimir Putin's bid to increase self-reliance from engineering to defence, but carrying more symbolic than commercial importance.

 

Many Western cars are now assembled in Russia, but not the Mercedes limousine, the car of choice for many government officials and often used by President Putin.

 

In Soviet times, homemade limousines such as the ZiL and for lesser officials, the Volga were de rigeur. These have now largely vanished from the streets, to the chagrin of some who see profligacy and a lack of patriotism in the preference.

For now it is a political decisions:

"This will not influence the market at all, it is a political decision," said Vladimir Bespalov, an analyst with Moscow-based VTB Capital, putting the share of state-funded car purchases at less that 3 percent of the market.

But how long until this too escalates to other industries and other consumers, first in Russia but in the other BRIC nations, all of whom one can safely say appear to have finally had it with western/IMF-led global hegemony.

 

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Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:52 | 4965186 ShrNfr
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With Obama, you just can't fix stuck on stupid.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 20:55 | 4965197 y3maxx
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...BRICS vs PRICS

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:21 | 4965280 codecode
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Obama's looking for someone to take the blame for the economic mess he has already created here in the USA... Who better than to blame Putin by having him accelerate it.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:35 | 4965338 CognacAndMencken
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What the fuck are you talking about?  The right-wing in America was so traumatized by the election of a black president that they actually developed retrograde amnesia in January 2009.

When Obama took office, this country was headed full throttle into the ditch.  We were losing 750,000 jobs per month... the stock market was crashing.... retirements were crashing....housing prices were crashing...the entire financial system was blowing up....we were 2 years into the worst recession in modern history.....etc. etc. etc.

And yet Obama caused this?  WTF.....?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:40 | 4965353 Liberal
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As a staunch liberal, I am against Russia...as long as the Dems are in charge. If the Republicans take back the WH, I reserve the right to change my stance. Until then, Putin is racist!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:06 | 4965432 Troll Magnet
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Hey CognacAndMencken,
I logged in just to tell you:

GO FUCK YOURSELF, YOU PARASITE!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:18 | 4965492 markmotive
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Russian Bear is awake.

Bombers intercepted off California coast.

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2014/06/two-russian-tu-95-bear-h-bombers.html

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:23 | 4965513 Latina Lover
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I'll bet Obama's next book will be called:

Audacity of Stupid:  how I spent 8 years with ugly Michael aka Michelle Obama instead of constantly sucking Reggies Root.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:27 | 4965528 Troll Magnet
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I just want somebody, anybody, to ask him:
"Hey Mr. President, what's it like to be the worst president in American history?"

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:55 | 4965637 Lore
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That is really strange, that people downvote the educated comment by CognacAndMencken.  Do ZHers not see that Obama is merely the latest appointed figurehead, part of a process that has been unfolding for decades, shaped and influenced and directed by a cadre that has been around longer still?  I have books by authors who understood the causal relationships and foresaw current events back in 1971.  The parabolic acceleration of decline was inevitable regardless of who was groomed to sit in power in the 21st century. Is it simply a matter of lazy thinkers preferring to blame the sitting president, especially given the [convenient] color of his skin?  Don't lose sight of historical context.  Today's psychopaths may be switching to overdrive, but current events have been a long time coming!

Maybe they're downvoting the post because it falls back into the simplistic, misleading left-right paradigm. In that case, I join them.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:06 | 4965673 BlindMonkey
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I see no problem with blaming the messenger.  At all.  This was a role that Barry asked for and he got it.  Fuck him.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qR0Uke2XNI

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:33 | 4965774 economics9698
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Obama is the tribe sticking a black ass in goyims face one last time.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:42 | 4965809 MeMadMax
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Hey man, don't look at me...

 

I didn't vote for the village idiot... Other village idiots did...

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:49 | 4965835 economics9698
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Voting is a formality.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:15 | 4965959 eatthebanksters
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Obummer wants oil prices through the roof to promote his 'lectric' cars...if he can blame Putin then its all good for him.  We're now worried about our coal importing ability even while we have shut sown the coal industry at home.

I personally think everything Obama is doing is made to look like he's fighting a bad guy but what he is really doing is dismantling this country and its middle class...the big step toward socialism and communism.  Yes I said it.

This guy realy scares me.  The economy flounders, Main Street is starving.  Our economic policy may have reinflated asset values, but at what cost?  While the majority can't find jobs, those with any assets have benefited substantially from inflation widening the wealth gap (perfect fr fomenting division when the middle class is destroyed).  Meanwhile our president takes 30+ days a year of vacation in multimillion dollar beach front homes in Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard...is this guy completely out of touch or what?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:40 | 4966041 CheapBastard
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personally, i'm looking forward to palladium at $2,000 and plt at $3,500.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 04:54 | 4966385 Bingo Hammer
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"hmmm, we thought we's done had it bad in them days, we couldn't wait to get rid of Bush jnr who it turned out wasn't as much of a village idiot and we's thought, and then the false messiah Hopey One Apoke-Me got in and sucked hard so's things got worse, but nothing, NOTHING compared with when the pre-ordained, "carpet muncha", psycho supreme Killary "what difference does it make" Hinton..... became President"

......something wicked this way comes

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:23 | 4965989 IllusionOfChoice
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Lore, I'm with you. I read the comment and do not get the downvotes. I hope we can agree on a number of things around here, to wit:

1. There is clearly too much influence of money in our political system.

2. The actual differences between the prescribed acceptable-to-vote-for parties in the US is rather small when it comes to real action (see point 1 for the reason).

3. We've been diving down this rabbit hole for some time and it should be of more concern to the general populace.

I am not trying to let our excellently duplicitous Mr. President off the hook for anything by mentioning the above! However, if we don't approach this as a crisis of self government, the situation is never going to change.

I don't think what is wrong with this country is a right-wing versus left-wing debate - it's a privileged kleptocrat versus the rest of us debate, and regardless of anything else we may not agree on, that is the one thing we all need to act on.

Thanks for reading and considering.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:48 | 4966061 Lore
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Good post. "Privileged kleptocrat" is being exceedingly polite. We have some very dangerous individuals and groups jockeying for control, some more human than others.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 02:08 | 4966130 zhandax
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While I completely agree with you guys, I still understand (but didn't add to) the downvotes.  His statement was framed in a fashion that seemed to imply that things had improved since then.  We are now six years into the worst depression since at least the 30's and the most optimistic outcome appears to be complete financial collapse (what too-much-cognac was railing about being interrupted).  This is not by accident.  Ogolfer's task is to engineer a bogeyman for the inevitable.  He wanted the job, he can take the heat.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 08:04 | 4966615 oudinot
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I downvoted you because you and your intellectual brethen continue to blame Obama.  Yes, yes, he is a 'bad president' but so was his predecessor and so was Clinton.

Don't you guys realize the presidents since Kennedy are but  puppets?  Their policy mistakes are not their creation, they are but the 'errand boys'.

The real culprits are behind the curtain, pulling the strings, destroying the economy, the Constitution .  Let's focus on those malignant  forces rather than pointing at the 'dumb puppets'.

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 21:10 | 4967375 IRC162
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-1

 

If a drug Cartel member shoots up a street  in Matamoros because he was instructed to do so,  is he a messenger or a murderer? 

 

If I rob a bank because my creditors are demanding more cash than I have available,  am I simply excused as a messenger? 

 

Fuck no. 

 

This man breeds hate and contempt with every breath he takes.  No excuses. 

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:47 | 4966161 fencejumper
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Very, very good, IllusionofChoice - I wish I could give you more than one up-vote!

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:05 | 4966089 RichardParker
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It goes back way further than '71...  Just Sayin'

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 04:48 | 4966382 Terp
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Oh it does, but "None dare call it conspiracy" was still a good read, and one of the first summing it up like that.

 

At least I think that is the book he was referring to.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:12 | 4965943 thestarl
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He's bad but Dubya was worse

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 03:12 | 4966283 Tall Tom
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Obama has just continued the policies of his predecessor. It is a continuation on a spectrum. Obama is worse then Dubya beause he added on more tyranny. (along with a tranny First "Lady".

 

But the next one will be even more abysmal...no matter whom that may be.

 

If you are seeking a political solution then all that you will end up with is just more bitter disappointment.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 05:28 | 4966409 old naughty
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"...no matter whom that may be."

They know whom. All according to agenda. Woar led by the dragon lady.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:54 | 4965583 willwork4food
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Hey Troll, I logged in just to tell you that Cognac had a point and was right about the timeline of the crash. I remember Bush just telling everyone we need to help the American Banking System and not get in the way of the majority votes (all blackmailed) of the respectable members of congress. Look it up. This isn't about Democrate/Repulican antics. They have planned this disaster with the best bought out minds money can buy. (Anybody that works for the US Dept in DC).

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:55 | 4965645 willwork4food
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and FUCK the dude that trashed me. Prove me wrong.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:19 | 4965719 willwork4food
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O Brutus, e tu?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:58 | 4965878 Escrava Isaura
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That sounds Portuguese

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 03:14 | 4966287 Tall Tom
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Latin.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:58 | 4966491 Escrava Isaura
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It's Portuguese, Tom... And maybe Latin, too.

Portuguese descend from Latin, anyway.           

And I am not saying it, Hedgers. It is a FACT!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:23 | 4965732 TheMeatTrapper
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Anybody who thinks that the color of Obama's skin is the reason that people hate him is a simple minded fool. 

The racism card has been played so many times that it has lost its value. Anyone who still plays it is simply broadcasting the fact that they are intellectually bankrupt. 

"They hate me because I'm half white"! lol - you gotta fucking laugh at that shit. 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:33 | 4965773 WeNeedaRealGovt
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Hey Troll Magnate, go fuck yourself with a rubber hose. I am never surprised to hear another tool GOP voter deny the facts as the rest of the country knows them, we were so fucked in 2008 we voted for a black guy just to get the GOP NEOs out of the way. You assholes still can't accept you had your head stuck so far up Fox News ass you didn't have a clue.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:49 | 4965832 Troll Magnet
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You dumbfuck!
I have never voted GOP my entire life, you fucking retard!
That said...
Who repealed the Glass-Steagall, asshole?
GTFO with that red/blue bullshit!
Fucking moron...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 03:21 | 4966296 Tall Tom
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WeNeedARealGovt is just a troll. For the most part he is not even worthy of any response including a Downarrow. (The Downarrow lets him know that someone has read his post and considered it at least.)

 

Do not feed the Trolls.

 

LEFT...LEFT...LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT.

LEFT...LEFT...LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT.

LEFT...LEFT...LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT.

 

That is the march that they are seeking to distract you with. Do not buy into it.

 

Ignore him.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 07:04 | 4966497 Bill of Rights
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Another fuck'en retard claiming that we were fucked in 2008 when the facts are it was all a set up so the Progressive Dolts such as you can gain more control over us.

 

Ross Perot warned you Dumb fucks of this mess and here it is!

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:40 | 4966471 Pigface
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What part of CognacAndMencken's statement is incorrect, in your opinion?  I can't stand the present President of the US but I won't pretend that all was well with the country when he first took the reigns.  

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 08:12 | 4966638 sleigher
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We were fucked in 2008?  We were fucked in 1971.  Or 1933, or 1860's even...

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:58 | 4965406 nmewn
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Yes.

So clearly the thing to do was DOUBLE the nations debt, pay off political cronies with fiat, fling open the borders, (play a round of golf), run a few guns to Mexico, drone nations it is not at war with indiscrimantely, doodle around with redlines in the sand, (play a round of golf) open everyones emails and listen in on their conversations (play a round of golf) berate those with corporate jets as you fly off to Maaahhhthas Veeenyard & Hawaii while unleashing your bureaucracy on "carbon", leave a "good friend" to fend for himself in Benghazi (play two rounds of golf), destroy the rule of law, race bait...

...and now, start a trade war with Russia.

To be followed by three rounds of golf no doubt.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:08 | 4965684 BlindMonkey
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He will go on vacation immediately after the declaration of war.

 

This might be sooner rather than later.  The Russians are firing back at this point.  I would not want to be on the other end of that Grad attack.

 

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/07/russian-forces-fire-across-bor...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:19 | 4965834 gallistic
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While we announce "new sanctions" for Russia, look on approvingly at the Palestinian genocide, destroy entire nations with conventional and proxy forces, etc., the nations of the world are moving forward in many areas, totally bypassing the "exceptional" and "indispensable" "world leader".

The majority of the world is not on board with any of these "exceptional" debacles. Multipolarity is not just a convenient buzzword. Putin and many other world leaders believe it, recognize its urgency, and are actively working to develop it.

Deliberately under-reported, or not reported at all are a great many things that are happening very fast and are flying under the radar for most people in the US.

Here is a hugely under-reported fact: The BRICS Summit in Brazil is also a UNASUR-BRICS summit. The Presidents of more than 20 countries are in attendance and personally heading up their delegations. There are a lot of political, military, and economic deals and agreements being made. In addition, the BRIC bank concept is being directly presented to the UNASUR nations for their consideration as an alternative to the IMF.

Of course, we are all aware of the initial agreements for the nascent "BRIC Bank", but many people are not aware that UNASUR has been implementing a similar project with the more modest and regional "Bank of the South". These two institutions could conceivably merge, expanding their base and scope.

Also flying under the radar was Putin's proposal of an "energy reserve" for BRIC nations. If implemented, this could arguably be as important as the development of a BRIC bank, since it would mean close coordination on energy strategy between the BRICS. The implications are enormous, and I will not even try to flesh them out here.

Putin met with Merkel in Brazil, (before the BRICS-UNASUR summit) and undoubtedly discussed many issues face to face. The fact that they conduct frequent talks face to face says a lot to me. This could turn into a new form of Ostpolitik and change US-German relations; time will tell.

Putin traveled to Nicaragua to entertain a pitch by President Ortega on taking a stake in the recently approved Nicaragua Canal which a Chinese consortium is going to start work on. If this massive engineering feat is completed as envisioned (big if!) it will dwarf the Panama canal in capacity and reduce that canal to obsolescence. The Nicaragua canal is a potential game changer, and the Chinese would have the concession for the first 50 years. See here for more (in Spanish and Mandarin). Work is scheduled to begin this December. Putin and Ortega discussed and reached an  agreement on the establishment of GLONASS stations in Nicaragua, and also closed a commercial deal for agricultural machinery among other things.

Putin met with Kirchner of Argentina, and reciprocated Kirchner's support for Russia's re-incorporation of Crimea by supporting Argentina's claim over the Falklands (Malvinas) from the UK. Putin said he “highly valued” Argentina’s stance on international issues, and noted that the growth in trade between the countries had increased by double digits in the past year alone. They also reached accords to build Nuclear power plants, and possibly exploit one of the largest shale oil and gas fields in the Americas (Vaca Muerta in Patagonia). They also discussed the establishment of GLONASS stations in Argentina. Argentina is considered by many to be a prime candidate for future inclusion into the BRICS.

In Cuba, Putin met with Raul and Fidel Castro. He forgave and cancelled Cuba's 32 to 36 Billion dollar debt (reports vary), and announced the re-activation of a large Russian military base and SIGINT station in Cuba (Lourdes). Among other things, Putin spoke publicly of a revival of military, technological, and economic cooperation with Cuba but gave no specifics.

I have not even talked about Chinese President Xi Jinping or any other leader of importance and their actions.

The point is that BRICS and UNASUR Leaders are all having substantive discussions, hammering out agreements, breaking new ground, and implementing an alternate model. The nations of the world are walking with a steady pace towards multipolarity, while the "exceptional" nation, excluded and deluded, is screaming at the wind somewhere out on the frayed edge of irrelevance.

The Fortaleza Declaration and Action Plan of this BRICS-UNASUR Summit is a truly remarkable document if you know what you are reading and are able to read between the lines of polite diplomatic speech.

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:56 | 4965866 Troll Magnet
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Don't forget his executive orders to backstop potential losses with taxpayer money if/when the derivatives market crashes ANNNNND giving himself the authority to assassinate Americans. The guy is a big time motherfucking thief and a sociopathic murderer. As well as an avid golfer.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:32 | 4966024 palmereldritch
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His clubbing to death of Habeas Corpus (NDAA) and its subsequent burial in a sand trap counts as an eagle I think

....and the gallery politely applauded

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:21 | 4965728 willwork4food
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And don't forget the early days of Bush 2..vacationing @ his home in Texas for months prior to 911. Gave everyone the creeps back then...until we FORGOT ABOUT IT.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:34 | 4965786 WeNeedaRealGovt
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Hey nmewn, I see you caught Megan Kelly tonight.  Thanks for the recap.  Quite a dish , huh?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:59 | 4965879 Troll Magnet
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What's the matter, the truth hurts?

Go fuck Rachel Maddow, you dipshit!

(gross!)

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:19 | 4965973 CognacAndMencken
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So clearly the thing to do was DOUBLE the nations debt.....

Nmewn - Your statement is factually incorrect.  When Obama walked into office, US debt stood at over $10T. Currently, it's at ~$17T... an approximate 70% increase.

If you want to talk about doubling the debt, you'd have to bring George Bush back into the conversation. Under the Bush administration, the national debt rose from ~$5T to ~$10T.  If you go a few places past the decimal, it's not quite a 100% increase, but close.

Under Obama, the primary driver of the debt was to save the US economy from a Great Depression 2.0 and a total meltdown of the financial system.  Under Bush, the primary driver of the debt was tax cuts for the wealthy and bogus wars marketed to the American people by lies and deception.  



Thu, 07/17/2014 - 07:13 | 4966511 nihilist
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Saved us from the Great Depression 2.0 ?? AH HA..HA..HA .. For what? So we can have the Greater Depression 1.0?

Total meltdown of the financial system ... AH .. HA .. HA .. HA .. you're killing me.  Seriously.  Let me guess, you're a Cramer fan?

BTW, under Obama (Bush 2.0) the primary driver of the debt is STILL tax cuts for the wealthy (where's John Corzine?) and bogus wars marketed to the American people by lies and deception (Syria, Benghazi, fast&furious, you name it) ... See how that works.

Welcome to fight back, now go back to HuffPo.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 08:44 | 4966758 Calmyourself
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nmewn, you can't blame his he is just a puppet and Bush was worse just ask...  The only truth is International bankers in League with International progs are running the show, we had better start naming and listing these organizations and people publicly so they can be kept track of and countered when possible.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:08 | 4965424 Gringo Viejo
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@Cognac: I think you mean a "negroid" president.
For what it's worth, he lived down to expectations.
All the best, Conservative America.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:10 | 4965461 FredFlintstone
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A lot of Ben Carson fans here, you stooge. You wish you were half as handsome and sucessful as us here.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:38 | 4965466 Escrava Isaura
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Cognac,

This is not ones man’s fault. White Republican Obama, looking at their record, would be as bad, too.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:00 | 4965886 Troll Magnet
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And if Barry had an (R) next to his name, these parasite liberals would be calling him Uncle Tom.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:19 | 4965499 McCormick No. 9
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Yur a troll, but I have pity on you. Bush was a dirtbag, run then by the same crowd of  dual nationals that today run Obama. Honestly, I don;t know who is stupider, Bush with his "Huh- whut? It ain't rape if i'm a yaley Skulln' bones kid!" sense of entitlement, or Obama with his, "I'm a manchurian cnadidate, expressly groomed for this specific task, so fuck you" sense of entitlement. red corral- blue corral- the loading chutes in both lead striaght to th slaughter house.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:53 | 4965633 willwork4food
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+100

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:45 | 4965608 vulcanraven
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I get it...

CognacAndMencken=Liberal satire

Well played, MDB would be proud

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:23 | 4965737 willwork4food
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What is this Lib vs Conservative bullshit on ZH???? I thought we were more grown up.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 00:00 | 4965884 Escrava Isaura
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Really?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 03:24 | 4966301 Tall Tom
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There is always hope...

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:24 | 4965741 Duffy Duck
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true, Obama just worsened matters - substantial worsening of the nation's long term economic health for partial, short term, artificial relief - like treating withdrawal with more heroin.

Assuming that "the right wing" is comprised entirely of racists is lazy and dishonest - at best.  But, by all means, it's easier to dismiss opposing points of view by lumping in everyone with those who base decisions on race.  Saves you from having to "think."

 

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 02:42 | 4966245 AnAnonymous
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it's easier to dismiss opposing points of view by lumping in everyone with those who base decisions on race.
_____________________________________________

Lumping people together based on race is an 'american' speciality.

'Americans' do that.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 04:09 | 4966358 ebworthen
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CognacAndMencken - You are a class A Douche.

In Amurika you can slaughter a family of 4 innocent people and be on "death row" indefinitely.

You are so clueless you don't deserve a response; other than for me to call you a douchebag and post this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Richmond_spree_murders

Obama, Jesus H. Christ dude.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:15 | 4966446 Magooo
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Only utter idiots believe the one party is any different from the other

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 06:57 | 4966492 Bill of Rights
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You must be the retard in the family everyone talks about, you just don't know it.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 11:11 | 4967461 teslaberry
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i defended you when you attacked constitutionalism---but this. common. 

 

you're going to defend the regime with false dichotomoy red-team blue team bullshit?

obam=bush bush=obama on every regime policy. 

it's time to look at your downvote numbers and not come back to commenting on zh until you've re-educated YOURSELF. 

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:13 | 4966104 NZ Watcher
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Yes - exactly the same way Ukraine is blaming Russia/Putin for its problems. Wife (who is Ukrainian) watched clip with Yatsenyuk (Prime Minister ) stating Putin was going to be for blame for the stopping of pension payments - go figure !!!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:21 | 4965281 fauxhammer
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Did he say "swift whiff of Janet Yellen"?

Pass..

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:06 | 4965445 Gringo Viejo
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@faux: That's beyond foul.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:30 | 4965764 Kirk2NCC1701
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Well, if the Koreans and Swedes can build cars, then I'd be impressed if Russian could also.  If Saab can build fighter planes and cars, maybe Mig can also?

Although the world does not need another car maker, given the Demand, Supply and Price stats, and Development roadmaps.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 01:34 | 4966143 demoses
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You all are so funny. Looking from my European standpoint it is like fighting about who is worse. Why is it so hard for you folks to just agree that the problem is the administration and not in the Mascot sitting in the Oval Office. You have two camps fighting over which is worse.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:00 | 4965212 CognacAndMencken
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I find it fascinating how a bunch of utopian libertarians at ZeroHedge now idolize the latest communist dictator from Russia.  Put up a picture of Putin with a gun, and you guys literally get an erection, don't you?  Reagan would be so proud of you.... 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:10 | 4965241 Infinite QE
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Probably because he's the only world leader who is banning GMO's, supporting families and can speak more than a single, intelligent sentence without the need for a teleprompter.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:21 | 4965275 tony wilson
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youse and putnik ares on der wong sides of histry.

eye eats gmos and florides pepsi wid extra corn syrups in and bits of aborted baby flavors in.

i baths in frack waters and eye eats aspatane cos donald rumsfeld says it good for yer.

 

dem russkis is so backwards day still using cow shit for der crops who wants to eats organics vegubulls when day needs shit to grows dat is digenrardes and backwards.

i do agrees wid putnik der transgenders and der faggots should be expelled to israel and scotland and lets der masons and der rabbis kill them off.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:33 | 4965332 Infinite QE
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Tony, a true genius. Keep 'em coming.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:45 | 4965817 economics9698
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Boris Spassky versus our Idi Amin wannabe.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:23 | 4965291 CognacAndMencken
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HORAY FOR RUSSIAN DICTATORS!! 

They're the biggest advocate for personal freedom and liberty in the modern world!  KILL HOMOSEXUALS!

You guys are idiots - true idiots. 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:33 | 4965325 Grande Tetons
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You guys are idiots - true idiots.

What would it take to be a false idiot? 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:46 | 4965362 Liberal
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I agree with Cognac & Chicken. What is worse, a leader who gives himself the right to execute his own citizens without due process or a HOMOPHOBE?!?!

The answer: The HOMOPHOBE!!!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:09 | 4965455 delacroix
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not to worry, obammy is experienced at handling blowback.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:36 | 4965573 MsCreant
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(I should not ask this, but I cannot resist.)

So, uh, where does blowback come from?...

(I know I will regret asking.)

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:30 | 4965766 Whoa Dammit
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Blowback mountain.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 02:18 | 4966053 MsCreant
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Blowback mounting?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 03:35 | 4966317 Tall Tom
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Happiness

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:05 | 4965671 Postal
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You say, "racist, sexist, homophobe" like that's a bad thing.

/sarc

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 08:56 | 4966816 Calmyourself
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Liberal, keep working an that toungue in cheek sarc, not quite there yet...

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:06 | 4965675 Postal
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A community organizer...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 05:38 | 4966415 Uncle Remus
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An election?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:33 | 4965328 Infinite QE
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Fuck off clone.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:46 | 4965366 Liberal
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Leave us liberals alone!
We just want to take your hard earned money to fund our own lifestyle and ideology and kill you with a drone bomb if you disagree.

And you're all racists!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:06 | 4965442 Escrava Isaura
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Liberal,

Not bad summarization.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:30 | 4965544 Liberal
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Thank you. Now, will you pay for my dinner? I maxed out my EBT card this month on steak & lobster for me and all my friends from Huffpost & dailykos last week.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:36 | 4965572 Escrava Isaura
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That’s too bad that mine can’t make through the week.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:20 | 4965725 angel_of_joy
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"And you're all racists!"

So what ? You're all morons...

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:35 | 4965336 The_Prisoner
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I posit the USA's southern Christians of the "God Hates Fags" variety should be your point of contention if you cared about homosexuals at all. But you don't.

The same way that, as far as communism goes, America's Imminent Domain laws put it into the hyperdrive to state-serfdom, whereas in Russia reforms to property laws allow people to own their own land. But you don't really care about communism either.

Russia is a country that is healing from 80 years of wars and "revolutions" instigated by foreighners and fifth-comulmnists. Instigators which happen to be the same that are now in control of America.

You wouldn't happen to be one of their agents, would you?

The real Mencken would punch you in the face.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:46 | 4965369 CognacAndMencken
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The real Mencken wouldn't take your comment about eminent domain seriously, considering that you can't even spell it.

But I'm sure he'd be interested in getting your most recent family photo album as reference for his latest book entitled, "BackWater Hillbillies and the Rise of Racism in America." 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:52 | 4965383 The_Prisoner
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So your refutation of my point about forced confiscation of private property in the US is the fact I misspelt it?

What a pompous cunt you are! You won't happen to be the reincarnation of Max Fisher, would you?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:23 | 4965518 CognacAndMencken
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I think the fact that you'd make such an obvious spelling error suggests that you truly haven't read anything about the subject, and you're most likely just regurgitating talking points from Glenn Beck and other nonsensical carnival barkers.  Additionally, your comment - on its own - is so knee-buckling stupid, there's nothing to comment on.  Eminent domain has been exercised throughout all of history, and is even supported by the Fifth Amendment.  Only backwater hillbillies who watched Faux News during the Cliven Bundy standoff think otherwise.

For this reason, I don't take your comment seriously. 

 

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:52 | 4965626 NoDebt
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Wait till they come take your Mom's house just to "spruce up the neighborhood" or to hand the land over to some private, politically-connected "project development firm" to put a casino in which somebody else will make a huge profit on.  You'll feel differently.

Eminent Domain has been around for a long time, that's true.  Using it to hand favors to politically-connected for-profit firms and individuals, that's very different than past (public) uses.

Play nice or you're going to get smacked around.  You aren't half as smart as you think you are.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 03:43 | 4966330 Tall Tom
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My parents built this cabin on the Colorado River overlooking a Wildlife Preserve. It was beautiful. Every morning you'd wake up and it was picturesque. We had Picture Frame Windows overlooking the Colorado River and that preserve.

 

Then the US Government seized it for use as an observation station.

 

Within a decade they had it razed to the ground. They bulldozed it.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:52 | 4965627 agstacks
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Gotta say I like this guy. Lol.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:18 | 4965715 BlindMonkey
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He is a pedantic fuck-stick troll if you ask me.  But hey, each to their own right?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 02:44 | 4966247 AnAnonymous
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Eminent domain has been exercised throughout all of history
__________________________

When it comes to the US of A, this is an understatement. It was the life line.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:58 | 4965407 MsCreant
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If we are so fucked up, why are you bothering to comment here?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:19 | 4965504 TungstenBars
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gets paid by the post

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:35 | 4965779 TheMeatTrapper
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"gets paid by the post"

Exactly - and if you notice, these statist trolls are very good at derailing the discussion. CognacandMencken has effectively turned the thread into a wrestling match of everyone against him, the shit covered pig - thus derailing the discussion about US Sanctions and the negative repercussions that result from them. 

These government operators are shifting our focus away from the real issues and turning thge most valuable site on the web into a Jerry Springer side show. 

Ignore these fucksticks. They crave attention. They never got it from mommy - now they want to shit on the floor and scream until they get noticed. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 08:59 | 4966830 Calmyourself
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Absolutely Meat Trapper spot on!  Trolls with incredible fast typing and posting connections, these folks if real are not worth your time and if bots..  Remember bot runners, they always come for you in the night, of the long knives that is..

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:06 | 4965448 FredFlintstone
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So that is what the Deep State is up to? Getting racism stirred up. Putting a half-black man in office that has no business being in charge of anything other than a newsstand and then flooding our southern border with illegal, diseased gang members.

Hmm, wonder what the nest step is? Keep talking.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:19 | 4965720 BlindMonkey
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Half-black closet homo to be precise.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:35 | 4965789 TheMeatTrapper
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I always say "half white". Kinda makes the liberal race baiters look silly. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 02:46 | 4966251 AnAnonymous
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Liberals are 'american' so it might work.

People who are not 'american' know that 'americans' determine that nobody is half white. You are either white or you are not.

'Americans' have troubles in innovating for their propaganda.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:47 | 4965823 Gadfly
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You are fucking retarded.  Go away.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:55 | 4965399 Volkodav
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well stated..

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:23 | 4965731 QQQBall
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Imminent (sic) Domain. Kinda, sorta right in a wrong sorta way. LOL

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:52 | 4965378 unrulian
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HORAY FOR AMERICAN DICTATORS!! 

They're the biggest advocate for personal freedom and liberty in the modern world! 

You are an idiot - true idiot. 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:52 | 4965382 Cabreado
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I suspect you are wrong, in that Putin-induced erections are not a huge representation of all who read ZH.

And those who do become erect at the notion of Putin are also misguided, in that sometimes erections are involuntary and they are responding to perceptions of honesty and true leadership.

The truth is that nobody is winning, and the appropriate response would be flaccidity, until further notice...

in the meantime, perhaps you are the idiot for presenting your quite shallow thinking for all to see.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:03 | 4965423 Malachi Constant
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FOR RUSSIAN DICTATORS

What makes you think that it's the mother tongue that makes or breaks a dictator?

KILL HOMOSEXUALS

Agreed, it's shallow and genderist compared to Anglo-Saxon KILL EVERYONE EQUALLY.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:35 | 4965566 HardAssets
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ahhhh . . . now we see

ya hate Putin because youre a queer

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 08:08 | 4966627 Infinite QE
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The worst, or is it wurst kind, a zio-queer.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 08:30 | 4966695 Mitzibitzi
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Where did you get the idea that Russia wants to kill homosexuals?? I'm sure there are some individual Russians with that general opinion, just as there certainly are in the US, UK, Germany or pretty much anywhere else.

I'll grant you that the Russian government aren't exactly progressive with regard to the regulations regarding public displays of affection between gays.... but kill them??

Ok, no government has any place dictating what consenting adults can and can't do in their sex lives. But compared to the myriad other ways every government sticks it's centrally-planned, control freak nose into things that it should have absolutely fuck all to do with... well, it's a pretty minor intrusion into personal liberty.

I doubt you'll find anyone around here wearing glasses so spectacularly rose-tinted as to view Putin as anything but another sociopathic asshole cheerfully grabbing power, wealth and influence with both hands. But he's worthy of a little respect because he doesn't pretend to be otherwise. Pretty much any Western politician lives by kissing your baby with a shit-eating grin, while surreptitiously picking your pocket while you're distracted. There are a few exceptions, globally, but I suspect if you collected them all into one place you'd be hard pressed to pack a decent-sized restaurant. And you'd need a fucking stadium to house the run-of-the-mill lying, thieving ones.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 09:24 | 4966949 acommenter
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What part of banning the western propaganda through NGO's and not banning "homosexualls" you don't understand? Or are you so naive that you reject the well documented cases of western propaganda machines?

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:32 | 4965548 McCormick No. 9
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Let's see...

Obama: No-one knows where he's from or who his daddy is, or even his momma, (cause she's just a photoshopped pic of paul Mcartney), ie a bastard in the literal sense of the word.

Obama: Is he an American? Is he kenyan? Is he Indonesian? Your guess is as good as his.

Obama: his "wife" is a man, his "kids" are adopted, all of his credentials are faked, forged or sealed.

Obama: Maybe he's an X-tian, (but certainly not a Christian), or maybe he's a muslim, but most likely he's an atheist.

Obama: hangs out with certified communists and terrorists.

Obama- hates America and has said so.

Putin- knows who his momma and daddy are.

Putin- yep, he's from Russia.

Putin- He likes chicks, and only chicks.

Putin- married to a woman with a vagina since day one.

Putin. Christian, straight up, no bullshit.

Putin- Russian patriot.

Obama- fake

Putin- real

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:50 | 4965622 p00k1e
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"Obama: No-one knows where he's from"

C'mon, then Bush was in on it.  Or do you think Obama slipped by Bush and Homeland Secuirty and the CIA and….?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 02:35 | 4966235 conscious being
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Moron post of the day award.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:10 | 4965242 Yes_Questions
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I'm glad to FINALLY see major world power call WASHINGTON out for its BULLSHIT! 

 

Color me Utopian Libertarian at ZH and RAYGUN would probably appreciate these pages moar than you know.

 

Especially if he appreciated freedom of expression.

 

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:19 | 4965273 CognacAndMencken
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That's total and utter bullshit. It's just fucking incredible the delusion you guys are capable of.  Foreign governments have been calling out Washington's bullshit/lies for decades.

You only see it now because there's a BLACK MAN in YOUR WHITE HOUSE, and the Rupert Propaganda Machine has you hooked by the nose.  Amazing - You'll even cheer for Russian dictators over the "Keynan."  Your patriotism stops at the skin color of your leader, doesn't it?  GO RUSSIA!!

If the Obama presidency proved one thing, racism is alive and well in the US.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:25 | 4965299 chunga
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You're fucking crazy. This sounds like an anti-nafta/gatt for them you dope. It has nothing to do with Obama's color. You sound like Eric Holder with your ridiculous race card. Duh

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:51 | 4965375 Liberal
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Believe it or not, we liberals are here on your tax dime.

HA HA HA HA HA

Hey Cognac&Chicken,
job well-done. I'll make sure our boss sees your comments. Expect another Thank You card from Barack and Michelle tomorrow!

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:33 | 4965553 Overfed
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A lot of broken sarc detectors in the room today.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:50 | 4965621 conscious being
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Overfed - I thought the same.  Then I saw the handle.  Now I see why.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 03:51 | 4966339 Tall Tom
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That handle is also satire. Have you read what he has written?

 

It is Stephen Colbert style satire. It is funny and I have been getting some great laughs. It is comedy material.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:03 | 4965664 vulcanraven
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I see a few posters from SFGate have slithered their way over to the ZH comments section.

Good luck here Libtards, you'll need it.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:32 | 4965322 Yes_Questions
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Obama's presidency proves deep capture. copy and paste...
Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:00 | 4965348 FredFlintstone
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Hey, you must admit that the good old US of A is probably one of the least racist countries in the world. If not, you must not get out much. BTW, I am a Mencken fan too.

Hmm, almost any Asian or middle eastern country is chock full of racists. I forgot about the blacks in the USA, they bring up the average on our racist makeup.

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:38 | 4965580 McCormick No. 9
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How do you say, " fucking ugly big-red-nosed gaijin" in japanese?

yep, I recognnize those words, heard often during my sojourn in the land of the rising sun.

humans are racist, no exeptions, unless someone consciously chooses not to be, and then blood is still thicker than water.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:43 | 4965596 Captain Obvious.
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The USA is the least racist country in the world?

Wrong.That honour belongs to Zimbabwe-Mugabe hates everyone.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:51 | 4965381 r00t61
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Obama is half-black, half-white.  Does this somehow make people half-racists if they don't like him?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 02:49 | 4966255 AnAnonymous
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'Americans' determined that half white does not exist. You are either white or you are not.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:53 | 4965387 Volkodav
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useless talkings

get lost goat

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 21:56 | 4965402 FredFlintstone
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Most on this site would vote for Ben Carson over any other presidential hopeful. Stick that in your pipe and enjoy it with your cognac. In case you didn't know, Ben is more black than Obama, more of a man and I bet his momma was no slut.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:04 | 4965431 25or6to4
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@InsomiacAndMenchen
Say, you don't work for the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet do you? Because you sound just like any of those brainwashed loonies over there trying to make everything about racial hate." If the Obama presidency proved one thing, racism is alive and well in the US". You sre absolutely correct. I would venture to say that most people who voted FOR him did so because he is black.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:15 | 4965477 FredFlintstone
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Obama makes OJ Simpson look like an upstanding citizen.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 22:49 | 4965616 HardAssets
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The call of 'racism' - - - that old tactic just ain't working anymore.

Most people who love this country could care less what color someone is. Thats why this fine man got positive response from everyone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmEHcOc0Sys

 

We'd vote for a guy with courage & honor like that.

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:48 | 4965830 Yes_Questions
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++Clarity

 

Occupy was met with batons and tear gas for a reason.

 

and it hasn't gone anywhere.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:44 | 4965788 Gadfly
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When you get down voted 64 to 2, it's time to question your own sanity.  Unless you're just a troll trying to stir shit up.  In whch case you're a worthless piece of shit.

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 23:36 | 4965791 Freddie
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Some of us stopped watching TV and Hollywood years ago.  You are one of the sheep/serfs who probably still watches.  Fool.

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