The Fingerpointing Begins: Ukraine Accuses Rebels Of Shooting Down Airplane, Rebels Deny

Tyler Durden's picture

That didn't take long for the Ukrainian government to know exactly what happened:


All 280 passengers and 15 crew were killed in the crash. The Malaysian Airlines jet was shot down by the BUK Missile System according to Interfax.


The BUK Missile system:


Curiously, Anton Gerashchenko, advisor to Ukraine ministry of internal affairs, had a prepared explanation for everything that happened half an hour ago, long before Ukraine even announced it would begin a probe into the flight crash:

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gdiamond22's picture

John McCain just busted another load in his pants.

Thought Processor's picture



He said, she said. 


Likely impossible to prove either way.  Especially if it was a set up meant to look like the other side did it (most likely scenario).

SheepRevolution's picture

Kiev needs to call Bush and Cheney in order to get some advice on how to handle a false flag once it has been pulled off. I mean seriuosly, it's been about 20 minutes since the crash and they are already blaming Russia? WTF?!

Silky Johnson's picture

Call me crazy, but I am more likely to believe the rebels.

BaBaBouy's picture

WARNING... Mckain Still Has One Good Arm Left!!!

knukles's picture

ABC News reporting that flight disappears.  Shows smoke on video from crash.  Says nobody knows what the fuck is happening.  Retired NTSB goof droning upon flight recorders, etc.  Malfunctions.  B777 technology.  Etc., etc., etc.  Accidentally targeted commercial airliner?  What?  Over restricted airspace?  No... take a look at FlightAware screens... lots of commercials flying over there.. same as Iraq, Iran, etc., designated flyways....


a.) Propaganda, Media Manipulators, Perceptions Management.
b.) That or fucking idiots
c.) All of the above

Manthong's picture

Noodleman needs to get her ugly ass over there and pass out cookies to the responders and investigators.

She is a stakeholder in that wreckage.

Latina Lover's picture

Only took the Kiev Kriminals 1 hour to complete their investigation and issue a press release. Way too fast for government work, unless you were expecting the event.



Manthong's picture

Well, about $1.5 billion of this weeks $3 billion in gold shorts have been undone so far with this news.

COSMOS's picture

RT says Putins plane was close by to that flight plane and that it was the UKES via NATO

I think this was a setup by the USA trying to kill Putin and the Russians played them for fools

Putin is too smart for them.  First I would not be surprised if instead he flies in a fighter escort plane instead where he has the option to eject.

USA is up to something very fishy here.  I think Putin just did check mate on the USA and he will let them make total fools of themselves before he buries them.   This may be the last nail in the coffin.

Divided States of America's picture

Poor JoKe (John Kerry), this incident will shorten his leisure time on his yacht in the Bahamas....oh I wouldnt mind seeing his long face right now.

Poundsand's picture

McCain didn't unload in his pants, that was Grahamn's mouth.

DetectiveStern's picture

The rebels don't have the tech to shoot down a plane at 33,000 feet unless they have more than shoulder launched missiles.


Comparison of man portable SAMs


Confirmation of plane altitude.

Manthong's picture

I hate to say it, but at first blush it would make sense that some Eastern Ukrainian found a SAM system under a rock somewhere and could have ignorantly shot at whatever was over his territory.

On the other hand, I would not put it past the Kiev Nazis to do this; after all look what they are doing everywhere else in the east.

BorisTheBlade's picture

Curiously, Ukraine has a track record of shooting down civilian airplanes:

EverythingEviL's picture

This is the catalyst to now bomb the shit out of someone

kliguy38's picture

WE LOOOOOOOOVE TO FIGHT.... USA USA USA    now back to our regularly scheduled programming... 

EverythingEviL's picture

Russia fucked with the US Currency system, time to fuck them back I guess

DaddyO's picture

I recently listened to a presentation by Joel Skousen and his position is that war will collapse the world economy, not the fall of the dollar.

I am thinking he may be more right than he knows...


Thought Processor's picture



I agree with that.


But I'll add that the war itself is largely fabricated.


It's all theater.

DaddyO's picture

It may be theater to you, but still deadly to all it touches...

Theater of the Macabre!


adjective \m?-?käb; -?kä-br?, -b?r; -?käbr?\

: involving death or violence in a way that is strange, frightening, or unpleasant


Thought Processor's picture



We are all witnesses to the event.  


All it takes is more than one (ie: two witnesses).

fonzannoon's picture

what about the Legarde thing with the 7's?

DaddyO's picture

I thought of that as well, if numerology is their thing then this portends to be dramatic.

Boeing 777, Flight MH17

Scary coincidental?


Cathartes Aura's picture

as I'm quite fond of "the Legarde thing with the 7's" - I'll post the text here for reference. . .

Published on May 24, 2014

“7? references:
1:22 – “Now I’m going to test your numerology skills by asking you to think about the magic seven”
1:34 – “Most of you will know that seven is quite a number
2:24 – “2014, you drop the zero, fourteen, two times, seven”
4:08 – “It will mark the 70th anniversary, 70th anniversary, drop the zero, seven, of the Bretton Woods Conference that actually gave birth to the IMF” (7 + 0 = 7)
4:22 – “And it will be the 25th anniversary of the fall of the berlin wall, 25th..” (2 + 5 = 7)
4:38 – “It will also mark the 7th anniversary of the financial market jietters”
5:08 – “After those seven miserable years, weak and fragile”
5:14 – “We have seven strong years”
5:43 – “Now I don’t know if the G7 will have anything to do with it” (G is also the 7th letter of the alphabet)

“2014? references:
1:18 – “The global economy and what we should expect for 2014?
2:19 – “So if we think about 2014?
2:24 – “2014, you drop the zero, fourteen, two times, seven”
3:54 – “So 2014 will be a milestone and hopefully a magic year in may respects”
5:05 – “So my hope and my wish for 2014?

The point for posting this here is, why is Lagarde bringing numerology up here? Is this a message? Is numerology real? Nonsense?


I know it's repetitive posting - think of it as an antidote to everything the mainstream will be pre-scribing. . .

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

It's all theater?...


Tell that to families of the 295 passengers that just "bought it" in that airplane Kiev just shot down along with the 500 and counting dead, thounsands wounded and hundreds of thousands fleeing to safety in Russia that that U.S. funded government is 'cleansing'...

Ironic when you think that less than 70 years ago and just 20 in (Serbia and Croatia) cleansing was a term only used by Western governments that designated anyone that violated the rule of law... 

We've always lied, but now the powers that be aren't even trying to conceal it in their desperation. 

Thought Processor's picture



By saying 'theater' I am implying that this is all premeditated.


And may the dead rest in peace.

nope-1004's picture

The fall of the USD will have serious consequences for those in the wrong place at the wrong time.  The devil is hard at work.


fonzannoon's picture

these malaysians are having a seriously bad year.

general ambivalent's picture

Their economy is great though, or stock market. What's it matter?

Professor Fate's picture

Did someone tell the cart girl to catch Obozo on the back nine and let him know what's going on or are we just going to let him read about it in the papers tomorrow as usual?

Fate the Magnificent
"Push the Button, Max"

boattrash's picture

Yep, we just found MS 370...

XitSam's picture

Anyone that flies near Ukrainian airspace is nuts.

Gern Blanston's picture

I was thinking the same thing.  For Pete's sake, they fly around thunderstorms... how the hell do they NOT alter course to avoid flying right over the top of a highly-publicized hot war zone?

Meat Hammer's picture

It was Joe Biden with his shotgun.

ChanceIs's picture

Ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffalse flag.

But for whom, for what.

I called my Congresspuke yesterday to carp about the border crisis and criminal aliens.  Said...'Look - all we need to do is impose economic sanctions on Mexico and the flood would stop instantly.  How could that be a problem - we slapped them on Russia post haste - you know - no environmental impact statement, no hearings on whether Vladimir was surrounded by too many women as a youth the way Hillary apologized for Bubbas bad behavior.  Boom.  Done.'

Soooooooo we did more sanctions and a jet goes down in flames.  (Prayers for the deceased and their families.)  Did Putin do it to retaliate?  Very bad play if he did.  Did the Ukraineians do it to make like Putin did it in retailiation?  Understandable motive but hardly credible.  Either way Jogn McCain will be demanding a new sop - that would be shovel ready jobs - for the military industrial complex.

Hamas?  Iran?

Can't wait to hear what Barrack has to say from the tenth tee in Martha's Vineyard.

And it happened during Ramadan!  Hmmmmmmm?

boattrash's picture

ChanceIs, Could be TPTB planned this to get our "Cocksucker-In-Chief" to take action/draw a red line, to finally piss off the rest of the word and finalize the collapse of US Dollar as reserve currency.

SDShack's picture

To your first point, I suspect the real reason for this false flag is that the flood of illegals is gaining traction and starting to piss off a lot of real citizens worried about how this is going to affect crime, disease, welfare, education, and wages. Have to get THAT off the front pages and off the TV. Nothing better then shooting down an airliner with Cold War / Hot War repurcussions to distract the sheeple.

boattrash's picture

SDShack, you may be right, but I've been looking at the border issue as a 2-fold issue, primarily as a distraction to cover a loss of control on Reserve Currency/Petro Dollar status. Followed by the general speedballing tear-down of our System/Nation/ Rule of Law, Etc... that continues by BOTH parties, both domestically and globally.

monkeyboy's picture

Won't be long till they find an undamaged passport in the wreckage or something along those lines.....

25or6to4's picture

More than likely it will be a missle in perfect unexploded condition with rebel/ Russian ensignia on it.

agstacks's picture

and a mink fur cap with ear flaps and a broken bottle of stoli..

knukles's picture

Paul Krugman, thinking of broken portholes and twisted aluminum, excited by the news of John McCain busting a load in his pants, took a dump in his while getting a prostate massage from Lindsay Graham.