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First Photos Emerge Of Malaysian Airlines Plane Wreckage
The first eyewitness photo of debris of MH17 Malaysian Airlines plane has been released. Considering the amount of propaganda involved in this tragic development, take everything with a mine of salt.
From Russia's LifeNews:
And another:
Source: RT and @MatevzNovak
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OK, time for World War 3.
Sinking of the Lusitania anyone?
could have been a Bankers convention?
Bomb on plane perhaps?
This MUST be bullish for the SP500, NDX, and RUT -- right?
CNBC is working on a spin regarding how this event will generate new jobs and shit.
Congratulations to all Americans who voted Obama at the last elections!
That doesn't look anything like Shanksville, PA on 9/11. One of these two airplane crashes is fake - I wonder which one:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1033/ua93crashingmk2.gif
I've got a very bad feeling about this one...sure hope I'm wrong.
although i can't see the kid's head standing on the piece of wreckage, it sure looks like adam lanza...no?
When commercial airplanes crash this is unfortunately what it looks like.
I do not wish to underplay the tragic loss of life, but how is it that there was no scene like this at the Pentagon on 911?
They forgot to strap "wreckage" to the cruise missile.
And bodies too.
Dumber than a stump, aren'tcha?
Those Russian made SAMs are quite effective.
Well, looks like MH370 finally crashed.
Thinking the same. One note on Monday a flat grey painted 767 left NAS Miramar at low altitute, I think we will see more.
Duplicate
Duplicate.
This is what a plane crash looks like, unlike Flight 93 which the US tells us went down in a field in Pennsylvania... RIP to those that lost their lives... Now the blame game begins... My money in on a CIA black-ops team sent in to make it look like a russian attack...
Well this takes the attention away from the rout of Ukie forces caught in a pincer in the narrow corridor along the Russia border.
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ca/
It's called physics. Speed of impact makes a big difference in the crash. Assuming it was hit by a missile, it would likely have lost power, broken up in air, and come down by gravity. The 9/11 crashes happened at 400+ knots.
@QN
Yes because we all know that 400+ knots will completely obliterate all signs of everything including the titanium turbofan engines.
Yep, 400+ knots means the only thing that's left is a smoking hole.
Hey leave Monika Lewinsky outta this!
Anyhow, these Malaysian Airlines guys have some real bad mojo this year.
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double and triple. fuck it.
What does it say about people that must believe in conspiracies in spite of the laws of physics?
I think it proves people like you will believe anything
Throw a 300+ pound of solid titanium (engine turbine core) at a brick wall at allegedly 400 knots and the brick just makes it vanish without a trace right?
Your position/argument is obscene in its lack of reality. F-off troll.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk
Try again you moron.
Wow, 12 votes (and counting) against the laws of physics. Must be economists.
Laws of physics my ass.
Troll/whore/shill is your job huh?
Hey, give the guy a break. He's got 'quantum' in his screen name fer chrissakes. He's a scientist or something, and an expert. I think we should leave this to the experts and just mind our business. Tell me what to think when the experts from Haavaad have the story straight.
Try flying at 400+ knots at 1000 ft above ground, idiot.
Gee, I don't know? How could a plane going far faster and smashing directly through reinforced concrete walls not leave the same evidence as a missile shot plane that partially broke up before crashing into a field?
Give it a fucking rest with the tin foil already!
You really haven't studied the subject. That's obvious.
A plane going far faster... That's cute.
At crushing altitude the plane was going over 400 knots, it fell from 30,000+ feet in the air. When the alleged plane hit the pentagon building there were no wing marks on the building or no impact marks from where the engines were.
Go pedal your conspiracy theory somewhere else. Rational people know the story was bullshit. I don't pretend to know what redu happened back then, but the story given to us was a complete fabrication/fantasy.
The poor souls on that plane today lost their lives in either a profoundly stupid accident, or they were sacrificed for some sick bastard's agenda. My heart goes out to their families...
Where did all the lungage go? The bodies? How about the hundreds of airline seats? Not to mention the "official" flight path was physically impossible. Moron... keep your head in the sand dummy.
Where did all the lungage go? The bodies? How about the hundreds of airline seats? Not to mention the "official" flight path was physically impossible. Moron... keep your head in the sand dummy.
There were lots of windows on that Pentagon wall, just saying there were some holes in the swiss cheese for mice or bodies to go through lol.
Just google Dean Martin's kid that flew the F4 Phantom into a granite cliff, one of the rescuers said that they found nothing bigger than a pencil eraser.
I think a solid stone mountain would resist more than a brick veneer from a building. Was there at least some kind of marks left on the granite?
The pentagon front lawn showed nothing, the building with a brick veneer showed no wing impacts or engine impacts. That story was a falsehood.
Your point is actually a good one, but I think you're comparing apples to pineapples.
Hey idiot an aircraft is made from ALUMINUM. A building is made from STEEL. No matter how fast you throw an aluminum can, it wont cut steel.
Hey idiot an aircraft is made from ALUMINUM. A building is made from STEEL. No matter how fast you throw an aluminum can, it wont cut steel.
Maybe they'll actually find the flight recorders from MH17 then?
moved
wow , that pic of the woman with her arm up looks totally fake. her skin is unscratched.
She wasn't on the flight. She's just posing.
I was thinking the same thing. Also if you look carefully at the pics, you will see another body inthe MIDDLE OF THE BURING WRECKAGE but yet COMPLETELY un-burned you can see his white skin.
Russia is WINNING this conflict already, it does them no good to shoot down a place.
False Flag.
This is obviously faked - everyone knows that in a REAL plane crash, the passengers are obliterated.
"That doesn't look anything like Shanksville, PA on 9/11. One of these two airplane crashes is fake - I wonder which one:"
One burned in and the other was destroyed in the sky. I would EXPECT the damage to be drastically different.
NASDAQ down -0.7%. Oh my, what a horror for the money changers.
Dow is down 41, the horror!
No bomb. It crashed in more or less one piece. Intact bodies, to me, shows it did not even crash totally uncontrolled. It just coould not be saved.
That looks a lot different than the wreckage in Shanksville on 9/11, doesn't it?
NO WAY !
The fire of the crash of flight 93 liquified all metals which drained into the hole, taking with it all the debris and engines and landing gear... really it really did. sarc/
That was blown up - either by a missile, or from the inside. Looks just like the pieces from Lockerbie or TWA 800.
just look at the pieces from Shanksville PA from 9/11/2001. Oh wait...
The laws of physics are your friend. Based on these photos, the Malaysian jet came apart in the air and fell to the ground under gravity. Flight 93 was flown into the ground under power at 500+ knots.
bullshit. no commercial plane can do 500+ knots at low altitude.
They most certainly can. While max level flight speed at sea level for a commercial jet is in the 300 - 400 knots range, in a dive from a higher altitude that value is easily exceeded.
flight 93 was not at high altitude when it was "hijacked" and "crashed"
God damn you are a moron...
The impact speed has increased 100 knots just in this debate alone??
Physics had it going 400 when you started, now it's up to 500, before your done talking that bitch was flying perpendicular to the ground at 1000 knots, that would certainly incinerate ALL evidence of a plane, right??
I don't know what exactly happened on 911 brother, but if your claiming to be a scientist, you obviously know what scientist think about coincidence!
One coincidence is unlikely but possible, two is nearly impossible, two dozen coincidences, happening simultaneously, in a 12 hour window, spread out over 1000 miles, during a single event, come on man.............any scientist knows that's 100% impossible! period!!
Planes can't go 500 knots and stay airborne. It takes at least 1,000 knots to generate lift! I should know...I'm a scientician
/sarc
Destructive forces in a crash increase proportional to the square of the speed at impact.
A crash at 200 mph is four times as destructive as at 100. At 300 mph it's 16 times.
I am not arguing for or against anything here, just reminding you that speed kills, and that exponential math is involved.
try again with that maths. 400^2=16x
typo nazi got me
Physics...
WTC Building #7, a 47-story high-rise not hit by an airplane, exhibited all the characteristics of classic controlled demolition with explosives:
So, was it controlled demo or "office furnishings" like NIST claims?
I don't know how you all managed to Godwin this thread and turn it into a 9/11 issue. Maybe I don't understand since I am living outside the US, but are we going to have to discuss that particular incident every time a plane is downed under dubious circumstances until the end of time?
Here is all anyone needs to know:
1. Innocent people died in this particular incident.
2. Innocent people died as a result of a vicious proxy war between two superpowers who are bickering like two dogs over a bone.
I don't really care to speculate as to who did what, or which side did this. I hold both the US and Russia accountable for this malicious act. Both have blood on their hands and the more they try to point the finger the less enamored I become with the whole situation.
PS: You can debate false-flag operations, laws of physics and various types of crash wreckage until the end of time, but unless someone releases official intelligence documents proving one particular version of events (if any actually exist), then we are just going to be speculating. Too many variables to factor in for any of you guys to actually have a clue what happened. I think this dead horse has been beaten enough.
The law of physics certainly is your friend, that said the law of some folks with a low IQ seems to have struck you years ago. Do you even believe your own bullshit?
And aircraft made from aluminum can hit steel and concrete towers and cause them to collapse in their own footprint at freefall speed? You either need to brush up on your physics (and chemistry) or quit trolling.
Sure are a lot of CSI experts, er, um, TV watchers on this thread.
Did the TWA 800 incident not occur July 17, 1986?
correction 1996
Daytime photos already?
It could still be light there:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3594063,21.2691929,23053662m/data=!3m1!1e3
It's 7:45 pm there now. And Ukraine is farther north than Vancouver, BC. So it gets dark late there.
The EXIF data says it was taken at 12:30 (but that could be time zone issue) although the sun shadows seam to show about 5 pm since sun sets at 9:01pm
Why not? At their latitude the sun doesn't set until 9 PM local time.
Yeah it was hard to find /NOT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhUkqs9CQ0w (big plume of black smoke)
And unlike Shanksville PA, there are actually bodies, like a real plane crash.
Exactly what I was going to post, SP! ;-)
Why didn't the Pentagon look like this?
Why didn't the Pentagon look like this?
My first thought. Second is who was on board?
The banksters are licking their chops. They smell large scale destruction and profits. Only this war is not winnable, contrary to Barry's war mongering staff's belief. Their insane.
Ignore this shit. Look for the energy deals a year or two from now after the Ukraine/Russian conflict that will flare now.
Random.
"I can't get the door open, help me!"
"Dude..."
That's because you're standing on it!!
My first instinct is always to jump on something.
you must be part billygoat
He's a mount'n man, and he likes mount'n womyn!
This is biggest bullshit eva!
fake. those bodiies would be all torn up and burned.
Horatio Caine, is that you? Were you standing sideways when you made that deduction?
No. He was making an overly dramatic one-liner while simultaneously ripping his sun glasses from his face.
The picture looks pretty genuine to me.
Agreed.
God rest the souls of that aircrew and their passengers.
Requiescat in pace.
I agree the top photo side of plane the shadows lighting etc were either ray cast using very high end rendering or are a photo. The next two debry overlay works so is a big scene and dismembered bodies appear legitmate the Exif data looks legit same camera and 2 min apart. The bottom one is not as good quality but still does not look touched up and data appears intact
MH17 on July 17th
Boeing 777
lol.... Did it happen at 5:17 (17:17) local time?
Let the PsyOp, False Narratives, DisInfo / Misinfo propaganda campaigns commence.
let's not stop here
17:17
1+7+1+7=16
1+6=7
the magic 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxBsv-ng7YU
It's about leylines...i think you can look it up...also TWA 800.
295 = 2 + 9 + 5 = 16 = 7
as per tony wilson:
Published on May 24, 2014
“7? references:
1:22 – “Now I’m going to test your numerology skills by asking you to think about the magic seven”
1:34 – “Most of you will know that seven is quite a number
2:24 – “2014, you drop the zero, fourteen, two times, seven”
4:08 – “It will mark the 70th anniversary, 70th anniversary, drop the zero, seven, of the Bretton Woods Conference that actually gave birth to the IMF” (7 + 0 = 7)
4:22 – “And it will be the 25th anniversary of the fall of the berlin wall, 25th..” (2 + 5 = 7)
4:38 – “It will also mark the 7th anniversary of the financial market jietters”
5:08 – “After those seven miserable years, weak and fragile”
5:14 – “We have seven strong years”
5:43 – “Now I don’t know if the G7 will have anything to do with it” (G is also the 7th letter of the alphabet)
“2014? references:
1:18 – “The global economy and what we should expect for 2014?
2:19 – “So if we think about 2014?
2:24 – “2014, you drop the zero, fourteen, two times, seven”
3:54 – “So 2014 will be a milestone and hopefully a magic year in may respects”
5:05 – “So my hope and my wish for 2014?
The point for posting this here is, why is Lagarde bringing numerology up here? Is this a message? Is numerology real? Nonsense?
oh, I'm sure in some belief systems/circles numerology is very real and very important...
Eyes Wide Shut
As in Kabbalah?
Who knew?
The (best) story I heard was, in exchange for filming the 'Moon Landings' (in Laurel Canyon), Kubrick wanted to make one movie at the end of his career, no strings attached.
The result was Eyes Wide Shut. And of course, Kubricks early death, before the movies release, and just for kicks, 666 days BEFORE Jan 1, 2001. (you know, Kubrick's famous movie)
well toxic8, if "some belief systems" are also telegraphing messages in their favourite secret code
best learn the language, hmm?
don't have to "believe" what others do to pay attention to their messages & actions.
CA you make a good point, altough sometimes it is hard to keep that distance when diving into the questionable subject matter. There is a pervasiveness in the mark on consciousness, a dark one, that lingers for some time and takes its toll upon the wearer.
Hopefully one day we'll be able to see the full, unedited version of EWS; it is rumored that the studio execs flipped their shit during the screening and Kubrick chain smoked about 2 packs of ciggarettes he was so nervous.
His untimely death was perhaps not as eye brow raising as a young Hastings, Brietbart, or any of the dozens of 9/11 witnesses, but the timing is curious to say the least.
Shit dude!! Nice work!!
Wow, now that's creeepy!
london bombings, 7/7/2007? could be wrong but there were alot of 7's involved as I recall
7/7/2005 actually, but don't let that stop you from creating your own narrative.
"7/7/2005" - 2+0+0+5 = 7
777.
Uranus @ 17dg Aries (16dg30')
Saturn @ 17dg Scorpio (16dg39')
yah, I know. . . but an exact inconjunct ongoing, with both planets about to reverse directions Sun/Mon incoming 20/21 July. . .
there are many ways to view what is apparent.
plan accordingly.
Open the Pod bay doors, HAL...
obviously Al-Jeezqaidawaki's celebrating their accomplishment.
Onlookers heard shouts of aloha Akbar.
Therefore, invade middle east country # 10
Please don't spoil the ending.
Er, "aloha Akbar"? Were they Hawaiian terrorists?
Good one.
Pretty obvious we're all gonna get bent over on this one.
=> Knock Knock
=> Who's There
Don't touch that!
war bitchez!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBml1XZDg3w
Let's have a war, jack up the dow jones!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUxkFCBPgx4
+1 million!
http://jakefogelnest.com/post/798738330
Who the fuck down-voted FEAR?
I wonder if that Kiev Nazi knows that he'd have better luck opening that door if he wasn't standing on it?
Minimal crumpling, which you would see in a crash. Looks like it was blown apart and separated from the rest of the fuselage. Definitely an internal explosion, but the cause could still have been a missile hit or an explosive inside the plane. Let's see if we get the pictures showing any burn marks or shrapnel.
Actually, an aircraft falling out of control from 33,000 feet will break up long before impact. Could have been anything that brought it down; bomb, missile, idiot pilot flying it beyond it's flight envelope. We'll know soon enough whether it was a Buk missile system.
At least they left this one where we can find it.............
Kiev government forces will sweep it all up, put it into a barge, and ship it to China for recycling I'm sure.
Well, someone has to sweep up the mess Putin made (hey, it's his boys that shot down the airliner). It usually falls to the party who's lawn it lands in.
Typical, dog owners always want their pets to dump in someone else' yard so they don't have to shovel.
http://news.yahoo.com/rebel-suggests-insurgents-shot-down-malaysia-plane...
It does not take Sherlock Holmes to determine what happended here.
thediplomat.com/2014/07/malaysian-airlines-flight-mh17-shot-down-over-donetsk-ukraine/
' Haven't seen or heard any evidence as yet but it's got Tehran's mitts all over it. '
John Kerry
Some event will trigger the next big war. Like 1914. The bankers are salavating on all the destruction and the profit.
The debris field would be pretty large...33,000 feet..550 mph....that will float for a long way...
those airplane parts looks so sturdy i'll bet $911 they could take down a massive steel and concrete skyscraper.
ROFL I'm glad I wasn't drinking when I read that :)
Depends at what point it started breaking up. If it held together relatively well until lower altitude it may be a relatively small debris field. The alleged missile has a 70kg HE Frag warhead and has a radar proximty fuse so it did not necessarily impact the aircraft directly.
The rocket was launched from Gaza strip...
I don't think those yellow flowers bloom this time of year. Just sayin'.
Looks like a photo shop job! No sign of fire! Those kids mucking around ... they were working in their garden when the plane fell?
Look like the moon landing.