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The Reasons We Fight The New World Order

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Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,

“Countless people … will hate the new world order … and will die protesting against it.” H.G. Wells, The New World Order (1940)

Throughout our lives and throughout our culture, we are conditioned to rally around concepts of false division. We are led to believe that Democrats and Republicans are separate and opposing parties, yet they are actually two branches of the same political-control mechanism. We are led to believe that two nations such as the United States and Russia are geopolitical enemies, when, in fact, they are two puppet governments under the dominance of the same international financiers. Finally, we are told that the international bankers themselves are somehow separated by borders and philosophies, when the reality is all central banks answer to a singular authority: the Bank Of International Settlements (BIS).

We are regaled with stories of constant conflict and division. Yet the truth is there is only one battle that matters, only one battle that has ever mattered: the battle between those people who seek to control others and those people who simply wish to be left alone.

The “New World Order” is a concept created not in the minds of “conspiracy theorists” but in the minds of those who seek to control others. These are the self-appointed elite who fancy themselves grandly qualified to determine the destiny of every man, woman and child at the expense of individual freedom and self-determination.  Such elites are often very open about their globalist intentions and ambitions, much like author H.G. Wells, a socialist member of the Fabian Society and friend to the internationalist establishment who put forth his blueprint for world governance in the book quoted above.  In this article, I would like to examine the nature of our war with the elite and why their theories on social engineering are illogical, inadequate and, in many cases, malicious and destructive.

The ‘Greater Good’

I have always found it fascinating that while elitists and NWO champions constantly proclaim that morality is relative and that conscience is not inherent, somehow they are the ones who possess the proper definition of the “greater good.” If “good” is in all cases relative, then wouldn’t the “greater good” also be entirely relative? This inconsistency in their reasoning does not seem to stop them from forcing the masses through propaganda or violence to accept their version of better judgment.

As many psychologists and anthropologists (including Carl Jung and Steven Pinker) have proven over decades of study, moral compass and conscience are not mere products of environment; they are inborn ideals outside of the realm of environmental influences. The greater good is inherently and intuitively felt by most people. Whether one listens to this voice of conscience is up to the individual.

It is no accident that NWO elites end up contradicting themselves by claiming morality to be meaningless while pronouncing THEIR personal morality to be pure. In order to obtain power over others, they must first convince members of the public that they are empty vessels without meaning or direction. They must convince the masses to ignore their inner voice of conscience. Only then will the public sacrifice freedoms to purchase answers they don’t really need from elites who don’t really have them.

Collectivism

I don’t claim to know what ideology would make a perfect society, and I certainly don’t know the exact solutions needed to get there. What I do know, though, is that no one else knows either. Whenever anyone takes a stage to announce that only he has the answers to the world’s problems, I cannot help but be suspicious of his motives. Rarely, if ever, do I hear these people suggest that more liberty and more individualism will make a better future. Instead, their solution always entails less freedom, more control, and more force in order to mold society towards their vision.

The utopia offered by the power elite invariably demands a collectivist mindset that the individual must give up his self-determination and independence so the group can survive and thrive. The problem is no society, culture or collective can exist without the efforts and contributions of individuals. Therefore, the liberty and prosperity of the individual is far more important than the safety or even existence of the group.

The elites understand this fact, which is why they do reserve some individuality (for their own tiny circle).

No matter the guise presented — whether it be socialism, communism, fascism or some amalgamation of each — the goal is always the same: collectivism and slavery for the masses and unrestrained gluttony for the oligarchs.

The Philosophy Of Force

If your idea of a better society is a good and rational one, you should not need to use force in order to get people to accept it. Only intrinsically destructive ideas require the use of force to frighten the public into compliance. The NWO is an idea that relies entirely on force.

Globalization has been consistently sold to us as part of the natural progression of mankind, yet this “natural progression” is always advanced through the use of lies, manipulation, fear and violence. The NWO concept is one of complete centralization, a centralization that cannot be achieved without the use of terror, for who would support the creation of a malicious global power authority unless he was terrorized into doing so?

The only morally acceptable use of force is the use of force to defend against attack. As the NWO relentlessly presses forward its attack on our freedoms, we, the defenders, are labeled “violent extremists” if we refuse to go along quietly. The NWO’s dependency on force to promote its values makes it an inherently flawed methodology derived from ignorance and psychopathy, rather than wisdom and truth.

Dishonesty As Policy

As with the use of violence, the use of lies to achieve success automatically poisons whatever good may have been had through one’s efforts. The elites commonly shrug off this logic by convincing each other that there is such a thing as a “noble lie” (both Saul Alinsky and Leo Strauss, the gatekeepers of the false left/right paradigm, promoted the use of “noble lies”) and that the masses need to be misled so that they can be fooled into doing what is best for themselves and the world. This is, of course, a sociopathic game of self-aggrandizement.

Lies are rarely, if ever, exploited by people who want to make the lives of other men better; lies are used by people who want to make their own lives better at the expense of others. Add to this the egomaniacal assertion that the elites are lying for “our own good” when they are actually only out to elevate their power, and what you get is a stereotypical abusive relationship on a global scale.

Methodologies that have legitimate benefits to mankind deliberately seek truth and do not need to hide behind a veil of misinformation and misdirection. If a methodology requires secrecy, occultism and deceit in order to establish itself in a culture, then it is most likely a negative influence on that culture, not a positive one.

The Hands Of The Few

Why does humanity need a select elite at all? What purpose does this oligarchy really serve? Is centralized power really as efficient and practical as it is painted to be? Or is it actually a hindrance to mankind and an obstacle in our quest to better ourselves? Champions of the NOW argue that global governance is inevitable and that sovereignty in any form is the cause of all our ills. However, I find when I look back at the finer points of history (the points they don’t teach you in college textbooks), the true cause of most of the world’s ills is obviously the existence of elitist groups.

The “efficiency” of centralization is useful only to those at the top of the pyramid, because it generally stands on a vast maze of impassable bureaucracy. It has to. No hyper-condensed authority structure can survive if the citizenry is not made dependent on it. Centralization makes life harder for everyone by removing our ability to provide our own essentials and make our own choices. That is to say, centralization removes all alternative options from the system, until the only easy path left is to bow down to the establishment.

I have never seen a solid example of centralization of power resulting in a better society or happier people. I have also never come across a select group of leaders intelligent enough and compassionate enough to oversee and micromanage the intricate workings of the whole of the Earth. There is no use for the elite, so one must ask why we keep them around?

The Opposite View

Arguing over what should be done about the state of the world is a fruitless endeavor until one considers what should be done about the state of his own life. As long as men are stricken by bias, selfish desire and lack of awareness, they will never be able to determine what is best for other people. The opposing philosophy to the NWO, the philosophy of the Liberty Movement, holds that no one has the right to impose his particular version of a perfect society on anyone else. As soon as someone does, he has committed a grievous attack against individual liberty — an attack that must be answered.

Our answer is simply that the people who want to control others be removed from positions of control and that the people who want to be left alone just be left alone. Association and participation should always be voluntary; otherwise, society loses value. This is not anarchy in the sense that consequence is removed. Rather, the rights of the individual become paramount; and the liberties of the one take precedence over the ever vaporous demands of some abstract group.

The most common retort to this principle of valuing the individual over collective fear is that "someone" must apply and enforce a structure of law and accountability, otherwise, society will "fall apart" into a vortex of madness and chaos.  And perhaps that is true, though self-governance has never been allowed to exist in the history of man without immediate interference from elitist groups, so no one really knows for certain what would happen.

Doing away with overt government control, however, does not mean we do away with "law".  Natural law, as with conscience, exists in our very biological and spiritual being, and does not require a central authority in order to be defined.  Natural law supersedes the laws of men.  In fact, the only man-made laws worth following are derived from natural law.  The primary tenet of natural law is that no one has the right to impede or erode the inherent liberties of other individuals, as long as they also respect natural laws.  The second any person violates the inborn rights of another, he has committed a trespass against natural law.  His trespasses against government authority are secondary, if not meaningless.  When one understands the unassailable existence and preeminence of natural law, he quickly discovers how trivial governments really are.

The ONLY reason for any government to exist is to safeguard individual freedom. Period. The original intent of America’s Founding Fathers was to establish a Nation that fostered this ideal. When government or oligarchy steps outside the bounds of this mandate, it is no longer providing the service it was originally designed for; and it must be dismantled. Unfortunately, it is a universal rule that uncompromising tyranny must often be met with uncompromising revolution.

When a new system arises that cannibalizes the old, enslaves our future, uses aggression against us and mutilates our founding principles in the name of arbitrary progress, that new system must be defied and ultimately destroyed. The NWO ideology represents one of the most egregious crimes against humanity of all time, posing in drag as our greatest hope. It is based, fundamentally, on everything that makes life terrible for the common man and everything our inherent conscience fights against.

We would be far better served as a species if we were to turn our back on the NWO altogether and move swiftly in the opposite direction. Imagine what tomorrow would be like if there were no controllers, no statists, no despots and no philosopher kings. Imagine a tomorrow where people respect the natural-born rights of others. Imagine a tomorrow where people’s irrational fears are not allowed to inhibit other people’s freedoms. Imagine a tomorrow where interactions between citizens and government are rare or nonexistent. Imagine if we could live our days in peace, independently building our own destinies, in which our successes and failures are our own, rather than the property of the collective. It may not be a perfect world, or a utopia, but I suspect it would be a much better place than we live in today.

 

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Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:07 | 4971611 Ignatius
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NWO = euphemism for criminal, corporate Establishment and oligarchic control.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:10 | 4971627 0b1knob
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Meet the New World Order, same as the Old World Order....

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:42 | 4971718 willwork4food
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NWO = No White Openings

NAFTA=  Not As Fully Translated (or) Advertised

BUSH=  Bullshit, Underperformer, Sorry, Horseass.

OBAMA= Only Benefiting (the) American Medical Association (Inc.)

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:43 | 4971727 Publicus
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Checkmate.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:49 | 4971756 palmereldritch
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"The goal of socialism is communism." ~Vladimir Lenin

The goal of communism is....

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:13 | 4971840 Oldwood
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Absolute dependency and submission to the state.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 02:07 | 4972180 palmereldritch
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...shear and slaughter.  Preferably on an 8 year cycle.

 

"Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever."

Vladimir Lenin

Mao Zedong summarized the purpose of the Cultural Revolution, “After the chaos the world reaches peace, but in seven or eight years, the chaos needs to happen again.”[1] In other words, there should be a political revolution every seven or eight years, and a crowd of people needs to be killed every seven or eight years.

A supporting ideology and practical requirements lie behind the CCP’s slaughters.

from:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/3949-commentary-7-on-the-chinese-communi...

 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 07:31 | 4972530 The Wizard
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When Marx wrote Das Kapital he was not proposing something called Marxism. He was identifying the weaknesses in the capitalistic system that would come to fruition based on the natural greed factor. The Fabian Society used Marx and Engels criticisms and developed a movement we call Communism. People need to learn how to analyze societies and governments from a systems perspective and dump all the labels such as Republican, Democrat, left, right, progressive, capitalist, communist, etc.

I don't agree with everything this guy claims though I can see where he is coming from in offering a solution. The whole video is worth a watch but at the 1hr and 20min mark he gets into the meat of his solution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUFv4rbBkhg

Marx was accurate in his criticisms of capitalism but never offered any type of solution.

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:20 | 4971667 maskone909
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Is it me or has ZH been getting hacked recently?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:47 | 4971745 UselessEater
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Its crashing repeatedly when I try to post; 8 attempts to re-load this article alone in a readable format -I've no idea if my post gets through or is duplicated half the time. Annoying!!!

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:49 | 4971758 maskone909
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Must have upset somebody up top tylers. I am really curious why this is happening

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:04 | 4971808 Rootin' for Putin
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I'm sure all of our IP's are logged and cross referenced ready for the black helicopters flight plan

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:30 | 4971879 Rusty Shorts
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I noted the red dot on the back of my head.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:33 | 4971885 UselessEater
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I got a "red dot" on my legit tax return. Does that count?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 08:07 | 4971933 Rusty Shorts
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 deal with it.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:56 | 4971774 Greenskeeper_Carl
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If that is a serious question, I've been wondering the same thing, I tried to reply to a comment on another thread and it redirected me somewhere else. The other day it kept giving me an error message saying the server wasn't responding or something. I figured it was something going on with my phone since I had just updated it after several years, but if other have been having problems then maybe it's not just my phone.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 04:37 | 4972316 old naughty
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so Tylers getting on the nerves of PTB...

or was that some of us?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:58 | 4971783 El Vaquero
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DDOS attack?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 07:57 | 4972522 snodgrass
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The NWO is simply the old world order brought back from the dead. We are revisiting the world that existed 2,000 years ago. Israhell is once again established as the world's hell spot (think of it as Mordor). We have a military-run govt. and the money changers are in charge of the temple. No one asks what happened to the super rich after the fall of Rome. They didn't just all die out. They migrated elsewhere and became European "royalty". They want the old world back of serfdom and what they knew 2,000 years ago. The money changers helped them accomplish it by destroying the world economy, private enterprise and individual liberty and by taking over all the major institutions that formerly shaped the culture in order to recast the mindset of the proles. Most young people are socialists or haven't you noticed?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 22:37 | 4973169 Dick Buttkiss
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Agreed, as one world government is statism's wet dream, no matter that the present den of thieves is inherently incapable of pulling it off and will instead self-destruct. The process is well underway, in fact, but fortunately we aren't helpless to do anything about it. On the contrary, we are already marshalling the forces necessary to survive and prosper in its aftermath, given that the Internet a fact of life and that we are already learning what "semi-intelligent slime" has to teach us.

No, I'm not talking about politicans. Rather, I'm talking about the vast power of disintermediated decentralization, as this is our future:

http://www.ted.com/talks/heather_barnett_what_humans_can_learn_from_semi...

And yes, it includes this:

https://www.goldsilverbitcoin.com/the-disintermediation-of-society

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:13 | 4971641 givenoquarter
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Despite all the one world control, end of America side of things, their album "Substance" way back in 1987 really rocked the clubs back then. Nothing like a hit of X and rocking out all night at the club to "Bizarre Love Triangle"... good times. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:43 | 4971642 Yen Cross
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   The author of this article  "presupposes" the deal is done...

  I've no time for worthless quitters in my life!

  I find it amazing, the lack of educate/

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:14 | 4971647 SilverDOG
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So many are consumed by the MATRIX.

They are unwilling to proceed beyond what they are forcibly fed.

In my lifetime I will see the beginning of the change.

The direction remains questionable, based upon resources.

Intend upon being in the seated section this time, of the coloseum.

Gear up 300 !

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:01 | 4971792 HardAssets
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An Alien's View on this Matter - brought to you by Jon Rappoport:

 

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/alien-ets-final-message-to-...

 

 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 01:32 | 4972140 August
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Klaatu... barada...

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 03:18 | 4972268 Phil Free
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...neck-tie.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 07:12 | 4972487 acetinker
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Ok, it's Friday morn, and I awoke to thoughts that we are controlled by eggheads who couldn't accomplish a thing without the efforts of their appointed staff.  I thought of the Manhattan Project, and Einstein who was totally incompetent at the practical level.  I realized that there were people in his charge who were in fact, exceptionally competent whom I've never heard of...

The entire thought took no more than five seconds, but would consume many pages if written out.

What do I find while sipping my first cup of coffee?  Brandon Smith and Jon Rappoport (via Hard Assets) elucidating similar thoughts.

A chief worry of mine has been for some time that I wouldn't see the transformation- from what is to what could be; That I wouldn't know the critical time.

Maybe it's just coincidence or wishful thinking on my part.  Maybe the revolution, as it were, is at hand.  I know this:  The Alien is correct- it is time, past time in fact, that humans outgrow the trappings of organized society.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:16 | 4971651 loregnum
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The problem is I think the majority of humans simply want to be controlled and be in a world like that. I don't know if it's jsut how they are born or it is from propaganda/programming they have received their lives. Crazy species...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:34 | 4971704 UselessEater
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Perhaps but I also think its incredibly hard for people to perceive the danger (evil) behind the conspiracy and therefore the threat. An average Mum or Dad upon seeing a direct threat to their child will act, but if they're conned or misdirected from seeing that direct threat, then they won't act.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:06 | 4971814 HardAssets
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@loregnum - so true !

See my post with Alien's Viewpoint above. It fits in with what you said about humans being crazy.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 00:50 | 4972076 UselessEater
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Thing is, my family and I never wanted to be controlled, we took actions like moving countries etc to avoid it decades ago.
Yet we only "woke up" to the NWO ponzi scam a few years ago, having believed many of lies for a long time and participated in the fake voting game thinking it was real.
So are we stupid or crazy or were we doing the best we could with what we knew at the time?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 04:16 | 4972297 Eahudimac
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Congratulations! You've figured it out. You are not stupid or crazy. You are just like everyone else before they woke up. I started the journey in 2007 and it came to fruition in 2009. It sucks not being one of the sheeple. Ignorance is bliss. 

 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 07:01 | 4972466 UselessEater
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But you know what, its much harder this time round, we worked so hard to make it the first time but... the net today is very tight and tightening

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:20 | 4971858 Oldwood
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Most creatures seek safety in numbers and the "collective" satisfies that need, only humans have figured out how to harness the group power of insecurity. We really are still animals after all, and respond in very predictable ways, just our brains introduce enough static that they can never control all of us. Thats why killing is so important.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:20 | 4971665 Redneck Hippy
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New World Order is soooo George Bush, Sr. era. Can't we update the conspiracy theory a little?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:25 | 4971690 john39
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The New World Order conspiracy is a hell of a lot older than idiot george bush...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:45 | 4971738 Crawdaddy
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Thats a fact jack. Older than his twisted old clown socked poppy too. I remember old timers railing on the NWO back when I was a kid. I wish I had known to pay attention to them then.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:46 | 4971742 Ms. Erable
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Not theory, but proven and openly admitted fact. Can't you update your reading list a little?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:52 | 4971769 palmereldritch
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How about Dinner with Kanye and the Kardashians?

How's that workin' for ya?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:21 | 4971669 RaceToTheBottom
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Just when does the New World Order become Old?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:39 | 4971714 UselessEater
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When it is achieved.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:21 | 4971671 gobsmack
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If you like your world order, you can keep your world order.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:23 | 4971679 Hulk
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Why's everyone got a paper bag over their head these dayz?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:57 | 4971778 UselessEater
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Great it's not just me denying ZH my crowned corgi avatar that took so damn long to find. (I'm gonna blame HRH).

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:23 | 4971869 Oldwood
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It makes me feel safe.....as a 25¢ condom.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:23 | 4971680 AccreditedEYE
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Despite popular opinion and CNBC specials for being down 141 bps on Nasdaq, I believe we are being played once again and that we will see a ripfest higher just in time to save OpEx tomorrow. Time will tell but considering the "end of the Bull" headlines, Asia is taking everything in stride tonight. Bet ya the dip gets bought!

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:25 | 4971682 A Lunatic
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How come you never see poor and downtrodden enlightened elite.........??

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:26 | 4971686 blindman
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@.." Imagine what tomorrow would be like if there were no controllers, no statists, no despots and no philosopher kings. Imagine a tomorrow where people respect the natural-born rights of others. Imagine a tomorrow where people’s irrational fears are not allowed to inhibit other people’s freedoms. Imagine a tomorrow where interactions between citizens and government are rare or nonexistent. Imagine if we could live our days in peace, independently building our own destinies, in which our successes and failures are our own, rather than the property of the collective. It may not be a perfect world, or a utopia, but I suspect it would be a much better place than we live in today."
.comment:
these words are the words of a philosopher, a king of philosophy,
perhaps, and there is no harm in that. someone has to follow the
bliss or we all perish in conformity, delusion, dilution and dissolution.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:41 | 4971717 Yen Cross
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@ blindman I realize you're sensory advantaged.

How would you like to spend some time reading charts?
I think you're entirely capable of being a good chartist.
You have good intuition, and insight. (green and white)
Green up<> White down

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:25 | 4971689 Rearden-Steel
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The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. -Ayn Rand

We are all criminals.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:26 | 4971692 Hulk
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database rebuild in 3,2,1...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:53 | 4971770 Crawdaddy
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something on the backend is definitely puking. May be a bad batch of PBR.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:28 | 4971695 get-sum
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But, a rising tide lifts all boats...even a red tide

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:36 | 4971706 A Lunatic
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Tylers, WTF is going on with this site lately??  Should we be concerned?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:38 | 4971711 Spastica Rex
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Imagine all the people, living for today...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:41 | 4971720 Yen Cross
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 ?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 10:03 | 4973012 HardAssets
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Lennon . . . . . ( not Lenin )

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:55 | 4971776 Crawdaddy
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Terrorist who come up with songs like that get a three named assassin and end up as a topic on Merv Griffin.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:10 | 4971831 Spastica Rex
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O M G

Thanks for the trip back to 10th grade.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 03:27 | 4972283 Phil Free
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but..  all assassins are three-named. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:29 | 4971878 dexter_morgan
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slow pipe through the NSA rube goldberg machine

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:46 | 4971740 williambanzai7
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What does Jean Claude Juncker have to say about this?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:53 | 4971755 Raging Debate
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I am a proponent for globalization. It will happen when everyone has a vote on the direction it goes. With today's technology that can happen, so can global debate and information sharing how to do it. But as it stands debate is closed to all but a few thousand souls on this planet.

If my vote and potential for debate is squashed why should I give my consent on decision-making going forward? Why not secure my own prosperity on THERE backs and time?

Sure, perhaps 50% of the global population don't want to think, to debate or share solutions but when it is .001 using the stick with no explainations for decision making, no debate at all why should I just not move into a cave?

Even if such meant well if decision-making and even constructive criticism is not allowed then you can keep your NWO and ever shrinking membership.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:59 | 4971785 Crawdaddy
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Globalization is a euphemism for old fashioned tyranny. Fuck the globalists.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 03:34 | 4972291 Ghordius
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the article is called "the reasons we fight the NWO", and focuses only on the reasons... without ever defining the NWO

and you mix up globalization with "the globalists"

as a reminder, globalization just describes the opening of national borders to all kind of movements, in particular trade

globalization is the process where for example a T-Shirt is done step by step in over 20 countries and is sold at a very cheap price

the "globalists" is less well defined. in theory, people who look at the world without using the national views

how can you fight something you can't even define?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 07:07 | 4972478 UselessEater
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its defined. its very precise.

look up Tragedy and Hope by Quigely

TwoShortPlanks will give you a few pages:

http://twoshortplanksunplugged.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/gold-backed-sdr-y...

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 07:35 | 4972539 Ghordius
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lol. seriously? I even checked, just for fun. btw, is TSP still posting on ZH?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:19 | 4973840 Crawdaddy
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Globalization is a trojan horse, a justification to interfere with free markets and free people. I know the story of "I, Pencil" and understand the benefits of free trade. The language is easily hijacked and used as a shield to hide nefarious dealings. The term globalization is hijacked by people who claim to want to benefit humanity with the glory of free trade. They push for increased taxes and stupid regulation in a country then use that as justification to close a factory and move it to "cheap" countries. Once they have the slave labor in operation they forget about the environment, human rights and the rest of the flowery things they helped shove on their former home country.

The globalists are the NWO. They are the cultural and spiritual Langoliers, destroying all that is good and leaving destruction in their wake. They want no borders, one govt, one religion, one market. And they certainly do not believe in free trade. They hate freedom. They hate choice. They have the most anti-human ideaology imaginable while claiming to be pro human, pro freedom and pro choice. They want to conrtol everything we do. They want to tell us where we work, sleep, eat, worship, fight, marry, etc. All controlled from birth to death.

how can you fight something you can't even define?

The membership roster of the global cabal is easy to learn. They tell us who they are. They can't shut up about their plans.

I, Pencil

http://www.econlib.org/library/Essays/rdPncl1.html

 

 

 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 10:16 | 4973102 HardAssets
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There's no problem with numbers of people voluntarily agreeing to come together for a common purpose that they can achieve more easily together than individually.

The problem, IMO, is when force is used to make others go along with or materially support an agenda that some individuals don't agree with.

Collectivism is the notion that individual rights can be trampled upon in the name of the 'Group'.  This is evil enough on its face.  What's worse is that psychopaths use fabricated word fictions such as 'the group', 'the collective', 'society', 'the nation' . . . to arouse the unthinking public and get them to carry out the psychopath's own personal agenda . . . to grab wealth & power.  And, usually this means stomping on the rights and liberty of individuals.

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 22:59 | 4971788 Reaper
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"We" might fight the NWO order, but the common sheeple craves it. Someone to think for me. Someone to blame. Someone who's smarter than me. Someone who knows. Some one who cares for me. It's "we" against their craved leaders and ruling elite.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:02 | 4971797 Hoviey
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A truly fine article Brandon Smith - thanks. You describe it as it is and there are no obvious solutions except to gradually spread awareness.

Families like JPM and a few others must feel it their intrinsic right and responsibility to run global affairs - they've been at it for so long.

Would be extraordinary indeed if we lived in a world where its people were all self-reliant and responsible  and observed primary natural laws. Unfortunately the state and centralisation work towards the opposite.

So here is an ideal, but the reality of it is far off, and the means to achieving it obscure.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:36 | 4971894 Pareto
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Excellent article. Should run on front page of NYT. There are some days I think the possibility of the individual and and liberty regaining force abd purpose iys about as likely as tossing heads consecutively 8 times. And yet as thIs article suggests a return to liberty abd the individual will occur principally because the NWO can't recognize It's own limitations - that increasing inequality it's it's own demise. My hope is that we return to the individual abd abandon the collective once and for all and that we do so through a peaceful process. So who fights with more vigor: those with everything to lose our those with nothing to lose? Violence in my opinion, is inevitable.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:07 | 4971821 22winmag
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The NWO, as it were, is a house of cards that could be knocked over by a stiff breeze. It's being marginalized, hedged against, and exposed like never before.

In fact, the NWO is, in reality, circling the drain and about to be flushed down the crapper.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 10:47 | 4973270 HardAssets
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IMO there are many contradictions and errors on which the NWO is based that will ultimately bring about its failure. Just a few examples -

Their view of human beings is mechanical, 19th century. They see people as machines, and groups of people ('society') as being machine like, predictable, and controllable. This Newtonian view of the world hasn't even kept up with current science.

There are many more of us than them. So, in order to bring about their NWO they must enlist some of us to carry out their plans. As events progress, the nature of their objectives and plans become even more obvious to more people. As events progress the only ones that they will be able to enlist to carry out their plans are conformists, rule followers, those with more limited intelligence, those only looking for a paycheck (mercenaries leave when the money is cut off or the other costs to themselves is too great).  They may try to use technology to gain themselves an advantage . . . but it takes human beings to oversee that technology. The more intelligent and driven will always seek freedom over slavery.

Ultimately, the NWO view is based on paranoia. Certain individuals did not want the rest of humanity to advance and threaten their position or the future advantages of their off spring. (Lots of racism and eugenics baloney in their thinking.)  So, they sought to hobble the rest of humanity through many means including 'education', the media, etc  Those who are paranoid will never trust one another and will ultimately work at cross purposes. Another source of their self destruction is built into their NWO system. Do they really imagine that some psychopaths will give up their power to other psychopaths, or trust them ?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:09 | 4971825 tony wilson
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dem jewish rabbis day seem reel keen on dis old world orders

like palestine why nots let dem haves it day must have a good reasons too wants all these things.

day wood not just kill folks for fun wood day?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 00:05 | 4971956 alexcojones
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Hard Assets:

I Wrote something similar years ago. ET looks at Earth as a huge petri dish filled with potential.

And potential self-destruction.

Why Earth Is ET's Top Rated Reality Show
Fri, 07/18/2014 - 00:34 | 4972036 Nick Jihad
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I don't know how the author could write such a lengthy tract, without once mentioning Feminism. If you are seeking the mysterious "Collectivists" who provide politcal support for the police/welfare state, let me humbly draw your attention to Female Voters.

Remember when women got the vote in the USA? Do you remember how Prohibtion and the Income Tax followed immediately?  The answer is right in front of you  - women are a majority voting block, and they love a welfare state with generous transfer payments.

It bears repeating  - it's the WOMEN, stupid!

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 01:30 | 4972135 UselessEater
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Yes Nick ban women and see how far life goes....

all jests aside, we know the attack on values and perceptions has been aimed at everyone, everywhere. For instance Gates sponsors a radio soap oprah in Africa to promote abortion. Music is designed to promote inter generational separation, and education has been hijacked eg other posters have shown links of Rockefeller cohorts buying all the educational publishers over the last hundred years why would they do that? Are you more than a hundred years old? Nope so you've been got at as well...

We've got to unwind the B.S. layered on us and be careful we do not mis-direct blame superficially. Yes the womens vote by and large has been intentionally corrupted but by the same forces that are corrupting you to see them as the CAUSE.

The CAUSE lies elsewhere. Its perfect for TPTB if we are angry amongst ourselves - this article points to where our focus should be - on the cause not on the manifestations. Many of us women are trying to get the message through as well, we're also frustrated.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 10:56 | 4973390 HardAssets
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There is a little bit of truth in what Nick says. Women (in general) place a higher value in 'security' than in 'freedom'. This is a matter of evolutionary biology (which is a whole other topic).  That said, - far too many men place a higher value on 'security' than freedom today too.

We all need to learn that there is no real security without freedom.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 00:55 | 4972083 DeusHedge
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Rich people are just like politicians. Part of it is feeding the monster, you know, with the retard's leg who's next to you. Philosophy be ****ed.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 01:55 | 4972153 Radical Marijuana
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Another succinct summary of a range of impossible ideals, based on false fundamental dichotomies, from Brandon Smith, who could stand in as a whipping boy for all the rest of the reactionary revolutionaries who espouse similarly unscientific attitudes, and corresponding recommendations for the preferred "solutions" for the current political problems, and the apparent direction that those are headed in.

The first few paragraphs of this article are, I believe, factually correct. However, everything else that follows after that is based on the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies, and their related impossible ideals, which always actually make the opposite happen in the real world, because their understanding of the mechanisms of how things work are basically backwards.

The essence of the mistakes with respect to presuming false fundamentally dichotomies is to not regard everything as operating through the same energy systems. That is compounded by the ways that the established philosophy of science with respect to energy systems has also created it own false fundamental dichotomy between energy versus entropy. That basic mistake comes from common sense views of time and space, which are wrong, and profoundly backwards, which were resurrected in the equations of entropy found in thermodynamics and information theory, when an arbitrary minus sign was inserted into those equations, so that the measurement of power and information would end up having positive values, rather than negative values, which is what the mathematical physics itself described as being the correct view.

The fundamental concept is relative subtraction, from which all other possible concepts flow. Our civilization, and indeed, almost all traditional human societies, tended to use the oversimplifications of false fundamental dichotomies, and then, tended to go to the wrong pole to establish spurious "unity." Of course, that is what Brandon Smith, and myriad others like him, are doing within the realm of politics, setting up false fundamental dichotomies, and then going to the wrong pole, as the preferred impossible ideal, with respect that that description of the world. THEY COULD NOT BE MORE BACKWARDS!

Collectivism,  Dishonesty As Policy, and The Hands Of The Few were all the result of the history of warfare. There are chronic political problems inherent in the nature of life, which manifest through the evolutionary ecologies of general energy systems, which, in the case of human civilizations have done what they did for reasons.

Since guys like Brandon Smith, et alia, do not approach human problems through an understanding of general energy systems, with a self-reflexive correction of the errors made with respect to the understanding of entropy, which were entangled in the history of the evolution of society primarily directed by the resolution of conflicts through warfare, enabling the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories to become dominate, in ways which reversed the meaning of almost everything, including reversed the meaning of the concept of entropy, as well as most of the other basic concepts found throughout the currently established philosophy of science, guys like Brandon Smith, et alia, continue to understand everything backwards, and therefore, propose idealized "solutions" to the chronic political problems which are guaranteed to continue to backfire badly, as they have throughout previous human history, and which are now set up to backfire more spectacularly than ever before, because there has been progress in science and technology, regarding a vast range of other general energy systems, but NOT yet with respect to political science, due to the magnitude of the necessary intellectual scientific revolutions there reversing, and mostly blowing away, all of the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories, that dominate the entrenched, globalized, Neolithic style of civilization so totally!

The alleged Opposite View promoted by Brandon Smith, et alia, is nowhere close to actually being an "opposite view," but rather is still operating within the same old-fashioned frame of reference of false fundamental dichotomies, and therefore, goes to the wrong pole to attempt to established spurious "unity," through promoting impossible ideals that will actually continue to make the opposite happen in the real world, as they always have before. Metaphorically speaking, Brandon Smith is one of the Black Sheeple, exhorting the masses of Zombie Sheeple that the "solutions" are for everyone to become better Sheeple. Meanwhile, the pyramidion people are the Vicious Wolves, directing their Domesticated Dogs, to herd the masses of Sheeple, (which sometimes includes those Vicious Wolf-People allowing Wild Dogs to run amongst the Sheeple.)

On the contrary, the genuine solutions are for everyone to become better Wolves. The genuine solutions are for there to be developed better death controls, operating through improved militarism, as the ideology of the murder systems. All of the idealized goals that guys like Brandon Smith, et alia, could only be actually be approached through developing better dynamic equilibria between the different systems of organized lies operating robberies, which are the only things which actually exist, and therefore, are the only thing which could actually develop better evolutionary ecologies.

From the perspective of general energy systems, the universe as a whole is already perfect. Energy is already being perfectly conserved through the established systems. The more non-linear functions there were, the more life and consciousness, however, whatever the degree of those that actually exist is the degree of actual life and consciousness. Evil deliberately ignorance towards that relatively stops the preferred feedbacks of more life and consciousness, since purposes are, by cybernetic definitions, the return of outputs as inputs.

The social pyramid system was the most expedient set of solutions possible for the chronic political problems, as those sets of solutions were developed by the ruling classes, through the social pyramid systems that they made and maintained. The social pyramids should be seen as actually toroidal vortices, nested in other toroidal vortices, above and below. However, to the degree that they are not, then they are not operating better degrees of non-linear functions, to sustain more life and consciousness. At the present time, the runaway degrees of evil deliberate ignorance, such as illustrated by social systems that privatize the profits, while socializing the losses, are acting to drastically reduce the overall success of life on this planet.

I REPEAT: Collectivism,  Dishonesty As Policy, and The Hands Of The Few were all the result of the history of warfare. Warfare was the expression of general energy systems manifesting through human beings. They are now manifesting the runaway paradox of final failure from too much success at controlling society with deceits backed by destruction.

The only genuinely better solutions must necessarily be better warfare, or better death controls, operated through better militarism, which comes to better terms with the development of things like weapons of mass destruction and mass surveillance, because that kind of militarism goes through sufficient intellectual scientific revolutions, so that it understands the death controls in ways which can achieve their purposes better. The inspiration for doing that should be the ways of thinking in the physical sciences, that made those technologies possible, applied to political science.

Guys like Brandon Smith, et alia, typically provide a relatively good analysis of the nature of the real political problems, but then, continue to operate within the same frame of reference of false fundamental dichotomies, and therefore, return to promoting impossible ideals, by advocating we move towards their preferred pole of that dichotomy, which never works, because it understands the mechanisms of how things actually operate backwards.

The better solutions to the ways that governments are the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, are to understand that all human realities are always, by definition, organized lies operating robberies, because all human beings, and therefore all groups of human beings, act as entropic pumps of energy. All private property is necessarily based on claims backed by coercions. Money, as the most abstract form of that, is necessarily measurement backed by murder.

All citizens are members of an organized crime gang, their country. Anyone who is associated with a corporation, or a church, etc., is also a member of that organized crime gang, operating robberies, because those are the universal fundamentals of how human beings manifest as general energy systems. When it comes to perceiving human beings as general energy systems, the best descriptions are the principles and methods of organized crime. Human beings always acted as robbers in their environment, and they still do. The challenge is to develop new levels of evolutionary ecologies with respect to that reality. At the present time, the established systems are becoming extremely unbalanced, because the ruling classes have become too successful in brainwashing those they rule over to believe in bullshit. HOWEVER, GUYS LIKE BRANDON SMITH, ET ALIA, STILL STAY IN THE SAME FRAME OF REFERENCE OF THAT BULLSHIT, WHEN THEY PROPOSE THEIR BOGUS "SOLUTIONS."

The extremely unbalanced rates of social robbery, and even worse imbalances in the inter-species robberies, are pumping up the established systems towards provoking drastic changes of state. There are likely to be severe social storms, and psychotic breakdowns of the currently dominate systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence. The future is extremely problematic because both the ruling classes, and their controlled opposition groups, tend to be stuck inside of the same ways of thinking, through old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies.

The better possible futures would require what currently appears to require series of prodigious political miracles, because those better futures would require series of intellectual scientific revolutions in the basic philosophy of science, which would then apply to politics. All previously existing religions and ideologies could thereby be systematically and thoroughly transformed by putting them through better general energy systems analyses, which could result in the synthesis of better scientific solutions to the exponentially increasing problems accumulating in the areas of human, industrial and natural ecologies.

Of course, that is what I recommend be done to the kinds of presentations such as in this article above, which is quite typical of the general pattern of mostly good analysis of the problems, then followed by recommending bogus "solutions," which ironically, are not consistent with their own analysis. Of course, the ruling classes rule because they were the best at being dishonest and backing that up with destruction, as that worked to be selected for through the general energy systems which resolved chronically reoccurring conflicts through warfare. However, those chronic political problems demand some resolutions!

Everyone has some power to rob, and power to kill to back that up. States were the assembling and channeling of that power. That those powers of those War Kings were then covertly captured by the Fraud Kings was more of the same processes, only operating in more subtle and sophisticated ways, so that the basic human farming slavery systems became more sophisticated forms of slavery in mass societies.

In that context, there is nothing theoretically wrong with the ideas of a democratic republic operating through the rule of law. However, the Fraud Kings have been able to capture so much control over the public supply of "money" that they were able to even more scientifically brainwashed the vast majority to become incompetent political idiots. That problem is especially intractable because guys like Brandon Smith, et alia, are mostly Black Sheeple, continuing to try to lead those masses of Zombie Sheeple backwards, by promoting the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals as the basis for their bogus "solutions" to these problems, such could be called a runaway fascist plutocracy juggernaut, building a fascist police state, to protect and advance its agenda.

I am against the current ruling classes' apparent plans for their "New World Order" because it also stays within the same old-fashioned ideas, and therefore, its agenda has become criminally insane. However, I do not want to associate with the reactionary revolutionaries, such as Brandon Smith, et alia, because they are NOT providing better ideas for a better revolution. Nothing less than profound paradigm shifts in political science, which operate in ways whereby post-modernizing science can be better integrated with ancient mysticism, could provide a good enough basis to deal with the realities of problems like a globalized electronic fiat money fraud, backed by the threat of the force of atomic weapons.

Nothing in the presentations of guys like Brandon Smith, et alia, regarding the "Liberty Movement" can be reconciled with the principles of the conservation of energy. Furthermore, to do so properly requires a radical critique of the concept of entropy, etc., because of the degree to which the biggest bullies' bullshit has dominated science as a social enterprise, similarly to how the application of lies, backed by violence, have dominated every other social activity.

The real goals of the "Liberty Movement" should be seen as developing better dynamic equibilria between the different systems of organized lies, operating robberies. Those may well require dramatic changes of state in the established systems, since they have been pumped up and up with more and more energy, until they have been primed to go through dramatic changes of state, through severe social storms, and psychotic breakdowns.

I believe some kind of "revolutions" ARE coming, because they are being forced to happen. However, I believe that they should be catalyzed by understanding them better, which means understanding human realities as energy systems better. In my opinion, the universe as whole will continue to be perfect, however, human beings will never been able to perceive anything more than relative illusions or lies, and therefore, human realities could never be more than systems of organized lies operating robberies.

The history of science and technology has been about some human beings gradually being able to build better mental models of the world, whose test was that those worked better. Throughout that time, those human beings also had a mental model of themselves within their model of the world. Human beings are necessarily political animals, and we could and should develop better political science, especially with regards to the monetary systems and the military systems that back those up. The better way to do that is develop an improved "Liberty Movement" that is more consistent with the understanding of general energy systems, which takes a radical revolution in the basic understanding of thermodynamics and information theory, in order to be better applied to human beings.

There is no freedom without a force. The only connection between human laws and natural has been the ability to back up lies with violence. Otherwise, there would be no need for such human laws, since natural laws would have already resulted in the desired outcome. Human laws organized resistance, in order to change the path of least resistance. The enforcement of laws changed what was the path of least action that society followed. Of course, human laws operate within natural laws. Of course, artificial selection operates within natural selection. Intelligence was the internalization of natural selection, which process has not been finished. Indeed, since the subtractions are never absolute, the processes of robbery are never finished.

The necessary revolutions require embracing the paradoxes of robbing the robbers, or killing the killers. However, clearly, that plunges us down even further through the infinite tunnels of deceits and self-reference. There is no way around the basic problem that a being which builds a mental model of itself within a mental model of the world discovers there an infinite tunnel. Natural selection always existed. As human beings evolve, they necessarily develop artificial selection systems. The coming revolutions look like they should become quantum leaps to radically different systems of artificial selection, which operate different death controls. But nevertheless, those will actually still be basically still energy systems, only perceived in radically different ways, which may enable them to be done in radically different ways.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 02:00 | 4972174 runningman18
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Hmmm...a lot of wind, not much substance, and no concrete solutions in your post.  This comment alone debases your entire argument:

"There is no freedom without a force."

Actually, there is no slavery without force.  Human beings are born with the power of choice, which means they are born free.  Someone has to take away our choices before we are required to use force to get them back.  Not to be rude, but there's no reason to your position, only random opinion supported by a rambling diatribe.  That said, we are all welcome to our own opinions. 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 02:50 | 4972226 Radical Marijuana
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& Back at you, runningman18.

What a utterly useless reply!

It is ridiculous bullshit to assert that: "Human beings are born with the power of choice, which means they are born free." There is NO choice not to breathe air, or not to drink water, or not eat food, or be otherwise provided for and sheltered in some environment.

Babies are born crying, and utterly dependent on others in order to live. They are not free in any way whatsoever. Human beings NEVER become able to create energy out of nothing, nor send energy to nothing. They NEVER can make the air, water, and food they need to live out of nothing. They must act as entropic pumps, by transforming the flows of energy (with matter as super concentrated energy) through them, in order for them to live. They need heat sinks just as much as heat sources. The same principles apply to information. Nobody can make "choices" other than on the basis of the information that they receive, which they can not create out of nothing.

Everything you stated, runningman18, is the kind of ridiculous bullshit that people who promote false fundamentally dichotomies and their related impossible ideals love to spout, as a sort of transcendental poetry, using magical words such as "freedom of choice" which would have to be radically reconceived of, in order to reconcile them with the most basic concepts of biology, chemistry and physics.

Your ridiculous bullshit is quite typical of those who divorce humanity from nature, and therefore, promote an absurd politics, which deliberately ignores the laws of nature as much as possible, or approaches those in as backwards a way as they could. That is precisely what I think that Brandon Smith, et alia, are typically doing. Their political speech deliberately ignores physics. People who talk about "liberty" or "freedom" tend to never explain how to reconcile that with the concept of the conservation of energy. (I think that can be done, but requires understanding the concept of subtraction a lot deeper, in order to approach that problem in a radical way.)

Your opinions are deliberately absurd contradictions of the well-established laws of nature, such as the conservation of energy. You are proud of that because you promote a political ideology which is like your religion, charged up with magical words about being "free." What I am saying is much more of a path towards "concrete solutions" than what you, or Brandon Smith, are saying, because what I am saying does trace back to operational definitions, in the form of social, biological, chemical and physical facts about human beings.

What you are promoting is based on deliberately ignoring those scientific facts, so that you can continue to spout your preferred bullshit magical words. It is reactionary revolutionaries like you who insure that nothing realistic will be done about the real problems, since you deliberately ignore the basic facts about the real world, in order to promote the use of magical words, because you like the way that kind of transcendental poetry sounds. Your brain has been programmed to operate obliquely through that kind of crazy encoded language. You have been brainwashed to believe in bullshit, and to be proud of that. You are one of the classic Black Sheeple, running in the herds of Zombie Sheeple, yet feeling secure in your own sense of moral superiority, because you spout the magical words which are perceived by you as being morally superior. However, in fact, that kind of bullshit actually continues to cause the opposite to happen in the real world.

New born babies are NOT born with freedom of choice, not to breathe, eat, and otherwise live as animals need to live. There is NO time when any human beings stop being animals in the real world. There are chronic political problems present in that life form. Those should be dealt with through more scientific solutions, which pay attention to the social, biological, chemical and physical fasts, which are the basis for all the rest of the political facts.

Guys like you and Brandon Smith are goofballs. You are proud of deliberately ignoring all of the progress made in science for several Centuries, because you are proud to repeat the same old-fashioned ideologies, which have been around for even more Centuries, based on bullshit magical words, which make no effort whatsoever to reconcile themselves with the rest of the progress made in sciences, which have studied facts.

NOT ONLY IS THERE NO FREEDOM WITHOUT A FORCE, BUT ALSO, TO DEMAND POLITICS WITHOUT VIOLENCE IS THE SAME AS TO DEMAND PHYSICS WITHOUT FORCES. The principles of non-violence are not possible. Promoting such principles advocates impossible ideals that actually cause the opposite to happen in the real world.

By promoting ideals about "freedom" which deliberately ignore the natural facts, you actually destroy the reasonable chances for there to be relative freedoms, as the dynamic equilibria of forces. Knowledge and courage have to be grown. The seeds may be there in each baby, but they can not grow without sources of energy and matter to feed them. Without their environment, then human beings do not exist, and so certainly have no freedom to choose whatsoever.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 03:30 | 4972285 MEAN BUSINESS
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So that's what happened to OWS! and how it backfired so spectacularly! 

I was shocked when the person in the 'media tent' told me that "we" don't recognize the National General Assembly concept. I think OWS was very caught up in the leader-less / non-violence / anarchy trappings. Too bad, so sad! The NGA was an attempt to force 'the gang' to redress, backed up by the use of political force, by running NGA delegates in all congressional districts in 2014 and again in 2016 with the goal of ousting 'the gang'. There was no violence backing that up though and before one could say "national general assembly" the military style takedown of OWS was complete.

Hmpph, if I'm guilty of promoting impossible ideals then, I have a lot of skull-sweat in store over the next 17 months! 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 05:21 | 4972341 Radical Marijuana
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Impossible ideals usually still make sense, as ideal goals. What usually does not work is due to not understanding the real mechanisms through which things actually happen. Paradigm shifts do not change the ways things actually ARE, only the way that we perceive them, which then could gradually enable us to change the ways those things are operating.

I tend to almost always agree with the idealized goals, which I would like to see accomplished through a greater use of information, which I regard as the operational definition of higher consciousness, as in the saying: "Spirituality is practicality on ALL levels."

However, as I repeated in my comment above, only what really exists can really evolve. One has to look at the actual mechanisms that make things happen. Ideals are useless if they are imagined in ways that are not able to be connected to the mechanisms that actually make things happen.

I distinguish between what I call a functional understanding, versus a structural understanding. For instance, one can think that both hot and cold exist, and understand them in that way. However, in fact, heat is the average kinetic energy, while cold is the absence of that energy. Therefore, that which we think of as hot actually exists, while that which we think of as cold does not exist, but is rather an absence of heat. A functional understanding of temperature can treat both hot and cold as if they exist equally, and that kind of functional understanding can work, up to a point. However, it is basically wrong! A structural understanding of temperature and heat is based on the deeper level of the unitary mechanism of the underlying average kinetic energy of the microscopically small components of those systems, existing in mind-boggling large numbers. Thereafter follows all kinds of interesting physics, as was developed in thermodynamics.

Anyway, the same sort of ideas metaphorically apply to politics as to physics. Most people use false fundamental dichotomies, to try to balance things that they think both equally exist. That functional understanding can relatively work, despite being profoundly wrong! Even worse, most of those who have that kind of functional understanding of political issues tend to go to the wrong pole to establish their spurious "unity," which would be like thinking that cold existed, and developing a theory based on freezing things, in ways which were utterly backwards to how they really work.

Indeed, that is what I accuse guys like Brandon Smith of doing. The apparent harmony and beauty in well-developed natural ecosystems is the result of their dynamic equilibria. Better checks and balances, and divisions of powers, appears to be a better political goal. I repeat that I agree with most of the ideal goals of sustaining greater diversity. However, I think that the real means to achieve that are mostly the opposite of the ways the most people who promote those goals go about attempting to implement them.

Of course, as always there are debates better strategy and tactics, and short-term compromises to be practical, versus holding on to principles for the sake of the longer term goals. (I am no better at that than anybody else, or probably worse, since I tend to refuse to compromise anymore than I am forced to.)

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 10:37 | 4973248 goneYonder
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Thoughts are empty too, ya know.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 05:38 | 4972365 runningman18
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Mmmm, no. We are all born with psychological structures called archetypes, which give us an innate understanding of duality.  Because we are born with these concepts of duality, we therefore have choice.   You should really educate youself more on the deeper aspects of the mind.  You might be surprised what you find.  Inborn knowledge and duality have been proven time and again by biologists, anthropologists, and psychologists around the world for decades. Smith named only a couple, and I actually wish he had listed more for good measure, like Locke or Chomsky (believe it or not). 

I'm sorry, but your entire thesis relies on the assumption that decades of study and data surrounding inborn duality is false, yet you have no contrary evidence except your own opinions and obviously limited experience.  I hate to break it to you, but your philosophy is faulty - essentially worthless, because it ignores an undeniable fact of existence.  Better that you learn now than later. 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 15:46 | 4975017 Radical Marijuana
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YES, my "entire thesis relies on the assumption that decades of study and data surrounding inborn duality is false!" I do not dispute that people think that way, and that all around the world almost every culture promotes that way of thinking. What I am asserting is that progress in science has revealed that was WRONG.

For instance, the special theory of relativity demonstrated that there is no fundamental dichotomy between matter and energy, but rather matter was an extremely concentrated from of energy. Therefore, all the other dichotomies between the material world versus the spiritual world are wrong. I could easily go on throughout every other area of science to demonstrate again and again that there are always deeper unitary mechanisms which can better understand the apparent dualities. I have an overwhelming abundance of "contrary evidence" against the presumptions of dualities, which is found throughout all the various kinds of progress throughout almost every science that one examines!  (I will not bother outline all of that in this reply, but I have been collecting a long list of the various ways that works.)

I AGREE that standard human thinking is based on presuming false fundamental dichotomies, and that those kinds of presumed dualities are facts about how human beings and cultures have tended to think. However, my primary point is that progress in sciences has always overcome those false fundamental dichotomies, and replaced them with deeper unitary mechanisms.

That is what is needed in political science. The old-fashioned ways of thinking using false fundamental dichotomies, and their related impossible ideals, cannot survive the progress in science, such as the special theory of relativity developing the ability to make atomic bombs, and so on and so forth, throughout all the other kinds of progress in sciences, such as quantum mechanics, pretty well destroying common sense presumptions, while, at the same time, being experimentally confirmed, and enabled technologies to work which could never have been built but for those radically different ideas, those paradigm shifts in those physical sciences. Our technologies are becoming orders of magnitude more powerful, due to progress in science, while society continues to make no progress, but rather go backwards, because people keep on believing in the old-fashioned bullshit about false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals, which actually make the opposite happen in the real world, because people are still understanding things backwards, because their dualities are WRONG.

Of course, I must agree with your point that thinking using dualities is common sense: "Inborn knowledge and duality have been proven time and again by biologists, anthropologists, and psychologists around the world for decades." However, my point is that is WRONG, and is becoming more and more dangerously WRONG as progress in science and technology continues to be applied inside the context of social pyramid system civilizations through ways of thinking using old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies, and their related impossible ideals.

My philosophy does not deny that people tend to think using dualities. My philosophy points out how profoundly WRONG that is! Therefore, I continue to reflect back to you your own points: Do not continue to ignore the fundamental facts about the existence of energy, which transcend all false fundamental dichotomies! It would be better for the human species to understand how mistaken their common sense presumptions of dualities are, so that they do not continue to behave on the basis of believing in backwards bullshit, which always backfires in the real world.

Basically, runningman18, you are a defending apologist and promoter of basic human stupidities, which you correctly point out are ubiquitous. However, they are still WRONG! My point is that is precisely the degree to which our problems are seriously overwhelming: almost everyone takes false fundamental dichotomies, and their related impossible ideals, for granted. They are totally natural, and necessarily so, regarding the ways that human minds think. However, those ways of thinking are still WRONG.

Human beings almost universally understand the process of subtraction backwards, and therefore, have reversed the meaning of everything that we understand. Thus, the combined murder/money systems have ended up being based on the maximum possible deceits and frauds, while the reactionary revolutionaries propose bogus "solutions" to that which continue to operate in the same WRONG frame of reference of false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals.

OUR PROBLEMS ARE DUE TO PROGRESS IN SCIENCE, ENABLING AWESOME TECHNOLOGICAL CAPACITIES AND POWERS, STILL BEING DIRECTED TO BE APPLIED THROUGH OLD FASHIONED DUALITIES, WHICH TEND TO GO TO THE WRONG SIDE TO PROMOTE SPURIOUS "UNITY." THE SCIENCES THAT MADE THOSE TECHNOLOGIES POSSIBLE WERE ALL BASED ON PARADIGM SHIFTS WHICH MOVED BEYOND PREVIOUS, FALSE, DUALITIES, IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND DEEPER UNITARY MECHANISMS. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE HUMAN SPECIES NEEDS TO DO NOW. WE SHOULD CHANGE THE WAYS THAT WE THINK, BECAUSE WE CONTINUE TO USE FALSE DUALITIES.

EVERY OLD-FASHIONED RELIGION AND IDEOLOGY IN THE WORLD IS WRONG IN THAT WAY! THE ARTICLE ABOVE BY BRANDON SMITH ILLUSTRATED THAT, AS DOES ALMOST EVERY OTHER ARTICLE AND COMMENT ON ZERO HEDGE, AND THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE CULTURE. THE GRAND CANYON PARADOXES OF PROGRESS IN SCIENCE, WHILE NO OTHER PROGRESS IN THE WAYS THAT PEOPLE THINK, ESPECIALLY NO PROGRESS IN POLITICAL SCIENCE, IS WHY THE WORLD HAS SUCH SERIOUSLY PSYCHOTIC RUNAWAY PROBLEMS, LIKE GLOBALIZED ELECTRONIC FIAT MONEY FRAUDS, BACKED BY THE THREAT OF THE FORCE OF ATOMIC BOMBS.

"The unleashed power of the atom has changed everything save our modes of thinking and we thus drift toward unparalleled catastrophe."

Albert Einstein

The special theory of relativity demonstrated some of the profound ways that people thinking in terms of dualities was FALSE. The ability of that theory to make atomic bombs has made the importance of those false dualities become extremely important!  Many other areas of science and technology prove the same points. Human beings DO tend to think using apparently innate presumptions regarding dualities, BUT, THOSE ARE WRONG, AND ARE BECOMING MORE DANGEROUSLY WRONG THE MORE THERE IS OTHERWISE PROGRESS IN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 07:29 | 4972527 acetinker
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Imho, any philosophy that takes more than a paragraph or two to describe, is bullshit.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 02:57 | 4972246 teslaberry
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radical , it is funny but this is the first time i think i realize how much we see the world similarly. the question from a personal point of view, is where do you see yourself WANTING to fill a niche in this dynamic world?

 

like me, it is clear you are CAPABLE of seeing the world in an 'a'moral point---trying to dissect the operations of the world without regard to the intellectual crutch of blame and ethical perspectivism.

so to be concise. how do you feel about cooperating with other human beings, versus jsut living your own life and minding yourself and perhaps your limited and potentially meaningful social  connections wtih family or close friends.

I suspect like me, you coud never want to be a democratic politician, but like me , you have an underlying respect for the reality that those politicians are playing the same ultimate game that despots and tyrants are playing jstu under different pretenses.

do you personally want control over others? i think it an interesting goal, but not peronsally fitting to everyone's disposition.  

 

i tend to agree with you about 'coming systems'. but my perspective is that based on recent industiralization they will tend to spring from a psuedo religion of techno-uptopianism. 

 

personally, i've wanted to start my own religion for a long long time. and if i had the money, i would probably move to a ripe city for a new religion and  that's probably what i would do.  not so much to be a tyrant, but to enjoy the coming ethos of people tlaking about the new value systems which they unknowingly will be , with the invisible hand of the state , or of revolutionaries and counter-revolutionaries----be embraced,

in many ways i see bitcoin as a great example of this. not judging it's merits, so much as seeing it as a cultural overgroth of pseudo religious statist/anti-statist duality driving the atmosphere of the next set of turnings. 

whether bitcoin, or some other set of net technologies, bitcoin is attracting the crowds and mentalities to it moreso than anything else,=----like a light for the insects. a light which may work or not, whatever 'work' even means to these peopel in this context----it certainly is working from a dialectic point of view by becoming PART of the dialectic. inserting its techno-uptopian or dystopian overtones very forcefully into the cultural anticipation of a future turning. 

bitcoin or not---it seems clear all future conflict will embrace technology in its means and ends to control the death systems of the future that you speak of. that is --assuming an asteroid doesn't hit the planet......and quite possibly, even if one does hit the planet!

 

one day, perhaps a future world will not worship the bablyonian idols, but the babylonian drones.  sorta hitchhikers guide the galaxy with everyone worshiping the artilect, that one day says---the answer is 42. hahhahah. 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 05:26 | 4972320 Radical Marijuana
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... the answer is 42. hahhaha ...

And, there could be some cosmic mega-disaster coming our way, to make everything else that we used to worry up suddenly end up relatively trivial in comparison? Maybe not a new Inter-Galactic Space Highway, that had to bulldoze our Solar System, including Planet Earth, out of the way ... but still there are long lists of possible disasters, which could suddenly pull the rug out from underneath us.

However, as long as the current systems still stand, then there seems nothing else to do but try to work within them, despite that appearing practically impossible to actually work, given how extremely lopsided those systems already are.

teslaberry, to answer your question about "where do you see yourself WANTING to fill a niche in this dynamic world?"

You only have to look at what I am actually doing now, which I have been working on for the last 30 years, which is attempting to persuade Canadian taxpayers to take full advantage of their Political Contribution Tax Credits, which I currently offer through these means: Electoral District Associations | ONE THING WE COULD DO, AND SHOULD DO.

If you bother to look at that, (which is only directly relevant to Canadian taxpayers), then you will see most of my political experiments and related court cases, regarding the issues of the funding of the political processes, and the laws governing that. You will see the social facts are that 99.7% of the potential of that political tax credit has never been used, and you may understand why those are the social facts.

My contradictory character wants to meta-control others, by encouraging them to stop doing nothing, and empowering them to start doing something, that they are free to decide upon, which I enable all Canadian taxpayers to autonomously do through my ability to authorized those Electoral District Associations

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 06:39 | 4972436 AnAnonymous
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The first few paragraphs are not factually correct.

The left and right are separated and opposed. The left and right are different entities opposed on the conquest of the State apparatus.

They happen to answer to the same master, though: the 'american' middle class. Which ensures a continuity in policies.

For the rest, it is a typical 'american' article by 'americans' who inherit all the theft done by their ancestors, and who came to the realization that if the 'american' trend of success through theft must be perpetuated, it can only be done at the expense of the 'americans' since they've thieved it all.

They can only thieve from themselves now.

So now, 'americans' try to explain that thieving is bad and no longer glorious as their ancestors told it was.

Typical case of a thief who, after thieving, tries to ban theft as a means to make it.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 08:56 | 4972729 Sean7k
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Radical,

Why all the redundant, excessive verbiage? Is obfuscation your intent? The basic ideas are worth discussing, but it is just so much work for what boils down to: worship science in all its' manifestations. What if the law of entropy is wrong? What if the creation process trumps the entrophy process on a cosmological level?

What if agasa exists? 

When you close down or limit your ability to explore the universe, you diminish your intelligence. 

I read this post and was amazed at the effort it must have entailed, the energy conversion to useful thought was the most wasteful example of hubris I have seen in awhile. You have something to contribute. We will be much more impressed if you write to encourage comprehension, rather than render it useless.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 00:07 | 4975075 Radical Marijuana
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Sean7k, it is plainly obvious that the industrial revolutions, which were based on progress in science, have changed everything more than it ever was changed before. All the technology that works around us constantly proves the validity of the scientific methods. Of course, it could be eventually proven that what current "scientists" believe could end up, in turn, to have been profoundly wrong in some ways. Indeed, that is almost certainly so. But nevertheless, we ARE now a technological based civilization, for whom the philosophy of science is the most important thing.

What I am asserting is that we need to go through some deeply profound paradigm shifts, that will apply to politics. Of course, the alternative still seems far more probable, that civilization will fail to do so, but rather end up destroying itself with powers that are trillions of times greater, being used in the same old stupid ways, as guided by old-fashioned religions and ideologies. In many ways, the ruling classes behind their "New World Order" still believe in some of the oldest surviving religions. However, almost all the apparent opposition also believes in similar old-fashioned ideologies, as illustrated in this article above by Brandon Smith, as merely one small example, of many, many similar others.

If I had to bet, I would bet on the "New World Order" agenda prevailing in a madly destructive way. I would not bet on any of the opposition providing anything better, but rather merely add to the overall collapse into chaos caused by human beings having technologies which are many orders of magnitude more powerful, while the purposes to which those are used stay as stupid as possible.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 10:05 | 4973026 gcjohns1971
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Your assertions relating Human Action to principles of physics are empty. 

By empty I mean you have not provided any logical tie between the relevant laws and your conclusions with regard to them.

It seems like a very long post that in reality says very little.  And what little it does say is self-contradictory.

For one to offer his own leadership, because all humans require direction, is to presume the one making the offer has exempted himself from humanity - a false and self-contradictory assertion.

To use your allegory, if we all become sheep we can eat in peace.

If we all become wolves we must all become cannibals, and the dominant wolf will ultimately starve to death.

The allegory is imperfect, because wolves will not eat their own.  People will.

Why don't you take 20 (or 50 or 100 or 1000) of your fellow 'wolves' to a desert island and test your theory before proclaiming it as a system with universal mandatory participation?

Theft is not self-regenerating proposition.  It is a self-destroying proposition because production requires effort, effort is a disincentive with the object of production being the incentive.  theft removes the incentive in production.

Those who do not produce shall not eat.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 00:13 | 4975299 Radical Marijuana
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gcjohns1971, I agree with you that the "wolf" metaphor is flawed. I am stuck using the English language, as it is currently understood. I was aware that, in a natural state, wolves do not kill each other, while, apparently, doves actually will. (Which is such a classic example of how human beings understand a Bizarro Mirror World view.)

You continue to promote the false fundamental dichotomy between production and predation. In fact, the production of destruction controls production. Of course, there has to be life first, or there is no death. However, after there is life, then the death controls direct the evolution of that life.

Over and over again, natural systems have evolved ecologies to live within limited environments, and they often did that through developing trophic levels, such as the layers of herbs, the herbivores, and the carnivores. (The predator/parasites are similar, but for the size of the package that they come in.)

Human civilizations have specialized to have cultural subgroups act like different species in the other natural ecologies. The top most of the men that prey on men are not so much literally cannibals, as they are slave masters, or the ruling classes operating human farming systems, which are at the core of all the other kinds of farming. That has been exploded by many orders of magnitude by the industrial revolutions!

What I am asserting are what I regard as scientific universal laws, regarding the ways that general energy systems operate through human beings. Obviously, throughout history and prehistory, those who could stake claims to natural resources, and enforce those claims, were the ones who were able to benefit from those resources. The main thing that they produced was the ability to destroy others, who may have competed for the control of those natural resources.

The production was always controlled by the production of destruction. Of course, there has to be some production to start with, however, given that, then all the chronic political problems follow as a package deal, due to the nature of life. The established systems are due to the history of warfare, operating death controls, through the maximum possible deceits, upon which foundation was built the financial systems operating on the basis of the maximum possible frauds.

There are NO better solutions other than better death controls. It does not matter how tangled up and crazy that social situation is, those are still the basic facts. The production of destruction is a form of production, which controls all other forms of production.

The logical ties between human beings and natural laws are that we ARE energy systems, acting as entropic pumps. The paradoxical ways that worked are due to success in warfare being based on deceits, which then enabled success in finance to become based on frauds. Human laws ARE based on being able to back up lies with violence, because of the ways that the production of destruction controls production.

You are promoting the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies, and thus, do not like to see your sacred cows of impossible ideals being gored. The apparent contradictions in my position trace back to the basic ways that The Art of War worked, wherein success was based on deceits, and spies were the most important soldiers. Thus, the biggest bullies' bullshit was due to the history of warfare being based on lying about itself, which then led to economics being a science like war was a science, where both were based on success through deceits and frauds, backed by destructive forces.

The degree to which the biggest bullies were successful through those means enabled the whole society to be dominated by their bullshit social stories. In particular, the controlled opposition to the biggest bullies were co-opted and compromised to operate within the same frame of reference. Therefore, all of the old-fashioned religions and ideologies are versions of the biggest bullies' bullshit, which cooperates with them.

Guys like you, and Brandon Smith, et alia, are actually controlled opposition reactionary revolutionaries, promoting the same false fundamental dichotomies and impossible ideals that the biggest bullies originally promoted. It is impossible for there to be no bullies. However, it would be possible to have better bullies. Similarly, it is NOT possible to have no death controls, as long as human beings are perceived as separate from their environment. However, it IS possible to have better death controls.

I am in favour of a "New World Order" and global government, just NOT the one being promoted by the banksters, based on the continued triumph of their old-fashioned systems of deceitful death controls, and fraudulent debt controls. I am in favour of an intellectual scientific revolution, as the basis for all the rest of the possible revolutions to follow from that.

I am not being any more contradictory or paradoxical than necessary, due to the inherent nature of the real situation, due to human beings operating through mental models of the world, with models of themselves within their models of their world, which open up infinite tunnels of deceits and frauds, which are actually how the main controlling mechanisms of civilization operate.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:43 | 4973835 HardAssets
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Summary of your view - - - seems to be that the world is as it is because that is the most energy conserving way it could be, thus is inevitable. And, the only way to change the world would be to use the current methods employed  - 'kill the killers, rob from the robbers'. (A more energy conserving method is to wake up the instruments of the killers - the sleeping people around the world - so they stop acting as puppets for the psychopaths, which only harms themselves.)  Yours is a false view of the world based on scarcity. In truth, we have the means to feed everyone on the planet. Only our limited thinking gets in the way of this.

A man who knew a great deal about matter & energy & the way the world works was philosopher/engineer/architect/scientist Buckminster Fuller. I suggest reading 'Critical Path' and 'The Grunch of Giants' by him, to start.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 17:05 | 4975362 Radical Marijuana
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Of course, HardAssets, I read all of Buckminster Fuller's major books decades ago! However, the "waking up" of more people goes nowhere unless they woke up enough to make a greater use of information, in order to operate their death control systems with higher consciousness. The chronic political problems inherent in the nature of life have no other longer term solutions than by evolutionary ecologies, which are dynamic equilibria between different systems of organized lies operating robberies.

The industrial revolutions have enabled the human population to double and double, again and again, as people adapted to those new energy sources being useable. However, we are now reaching the limits to doing that, with the problems of diminishing returns already showing up! The issues are how to develop better human, industrial and natural ecologies, all of which necessarily have their death control systems as central to everything else.

While I agree that there could theoretically be more abundance, that would not be sustainable without better murder systems to back up better monetary systems, so that that abundance could operate through better evolutionary ecologies. Merely being against the sociopathic psychopaths, who currently operate the established death controls through the maximum possible deceits, is NOT enough. There must be better death controls, to replace the old forms of how that got done, IF there are going to be any other better solutions, of systems of integrated alternatives.

My view continues to be that guys like Brandon Smith, et alia, provide nothing remotely close to better theories of artificial selection, operating better death controls. They are stuck in the rut of their favourite false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals, which paper over the problems with magical words, such as "Liberty."

WHAT I AM DOING IS APPLYING THE "DESIGN SCIENCE" IDEAS OF BUCKMINSTER FULLER TO THE DEATH CONTROL SYSTEMS, OR TO MILITARISM, AS THE IDEOLOGY OF THE MURDER SYSTEMS.

Of course, Fuller focused on the "livingry" systems, or else he would not have been as popular. However, all his abstract concepts also apply to the production of destruction, as well as to the primary production. The production of destruction will continue to control production. Better death controls would be necessary to back up better debt controls, which would be necessary to organize an economic system which was able to operate better evolutionary ecologies.

Militarism is the supreme ideology, and it deserves to be. There is never going to be any possible time when there will be enough abundance to keep exponential growth going endlessly. There must emerge some artificial selection systems, within the bigger natural selection systems. Human beings, IF they survive, will have no choice but develop better death control systems, and that is the only way that perhaps more abundance could be actually made and maintained.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 02:00 | 4972177 Zeta Reticuli
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America cannot fight against the New World Order.

America IS the New World Order.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 02:37 | 4972222 UselessEater
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Zeta I get the impression that America is supposed to die FOR the NWO. Which makes me sad, not just for you guys but  also for the rest of us small domino nations like Canada and Aust... it could have been very different.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 06:39 | 4972440 AnAnonymous
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America cannot fight against the New World Order.

America IS the New World Order.
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Such frankness is rude.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 07:24 | 4972515 UselessEater
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You flatter yourself though I have no idea why

Look up the insidious nature of the British Round Table (s) and Secret Societies in the USA from day One, listen to some of your presidents speeches that point to existing (ie pre-existing) machinations on your society.

America is but a dupe FOR the NWO. I say this without judgement as my nation is a much smaller useful idiot in this game.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:38 | 4973946 HardAssets
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First of all, we have to define our terms.

To many of us 'America' is an ideal. That ideal has to do with individual, inherent, inalienable rights. That ideal has to do with the principle that men and women have the right to live their lives as they would choose, as long as they do not interfere with the rights of others. Many of these ideals have their foundations in thinking that came long before 1776, and outside of our nation's borders (from England, ancient Greece, etc). We, the people living in our country, have often not lived up to these ideals. But these ideals did form a part of our character. Ours was a land of open spaces in the beginning and with little respect for titles of nobility. The common man could make a life for himself and his family.

The so-called 'New World Order' is also an 'ideal' (for some people). It is based on the principle that the lives of the masses are owned by the few. It is based on the principle that, since they are far outnumbered, - the few must use lies to manipulate the masses to act against their own best interests. (Though as of late they believe they will be able to employ technology so will not need the slaves anymore. They want to eliminate the 'useless eaters' now.)  The NWO is the philosophy of psychopath slave masters.

 

 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 04:38 | 4972317 Ocean22
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See the matrix, avoid the matrix , shut down the matrix. Wake up!

Red pill >>>>>>>>>>> http://youtu.be/oqB4L-V67iM

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 06:14 | 4972403 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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If "NWO" stands for the oligarchs, the top banksters and their cronies in the political world, then I can certainly symphatize with this struggle.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 07:43 | 4972549 IndianaJohn
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If I knew in advance the theme of this article, I would have sat down to read with a beer instead of a coffee. Among men like me discussions and solutions such as above type, are best when accompanied by a quality beer(s).  

Reading the above article brought Howard S. Katz (RIP 12/2010) to mind.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 07:51 | 4972567 Seize Mars
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I remember watching GHW Bush give that speech using the phrase "New World Order." I remember thinking wow cool this guy is a visionary, a man of wisdom, etc.
What a laugh. Little did I know he was putting the grand plan for mass murder and slavery on public display. Hidden in plain sight.
Fucking monsters.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 07:55 | 4972575 Death By Cold S...
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I knew this article was coming after all the Hack attacks going on at the ZH Servers and Networks.... Yeah I see the data; I've also came to the conclusion that its called Operation Alternative News!

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 09:02 | 4972759 d edwards
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There was a country like the one described in the intro: it was called "America" when gov't was still restrained by the Constitution, and the gov't feared the people instead of the other way around.

"When the gov't fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the gov't, there is tyranny" I forget which Founder said that.

Sic semper tyrannus

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 09:32 | 4972820 Raging Debate
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RM - Agree with general thinking that physics not applied to political systems. Also agree about death controls through militarism. The solution is to channel that competitive energy into fighting death itself (evolving back to energy).

What point is there to conquer the earth when your going to start shitting your pants and die at 90?

One does not have to become a wolf to be a shephard RM. One can offer an inclusive process toward this end. It is one we ALL relate to on a personal level. Unless your young all of us know people who suffered and died.

There need not be bullshit better health/physics information sharing systems to sell this either. 'Seeding' is something we know in science as to how single cell organisms got here and evolved.

Lets theorize you could take a portion of your DNA, a seed into a string of electrons and using quantum tunneling reversed polarity from say negative to positive injecting the seed into the fourth dimension. This is scientifically known right now as a place, it is where quarks go when they seemingly " "blink" out of reality. The quantum computer already punches holes in 4D and injects equations into it that takes would take thousands of years to process here with traditional computing. So why not a seed? That process would be transformation of consciousness at will rather than transition at death. There is your "death controls" solution and an inclusive one at that. So if I chose in theory to be seeded this way it would mean physical death but my seed would grow there and be reborn. I could view my prior existence if I chose or communicate with those that hadn't been seeded yet back on earth. Hell, i should write a movie script :/)

Your writing insinuates that a new exclusive club be formed of militarism because you don't offer a specific area to channel competitive human nature. But yet you decry people like Smith because they like yourself don't offer a specific theory on how to channel competitive nature of our species in a productive, inclusive manner for a goal all can agree on.

Death itself as the enemy is the only solution to the paradoxes of evolutionary progress. It is a destination that has been considered for many thousands of years and there are interesting correlations between religions suggesting eternal life such as the cult of Pythagoras and higher maths such as trigonometry or Egyptian monotheism and algebra or Mayans and Pi.

Man thinks is 3D but evolving rapidly to 4D. Hence you get structures visibly in the shape of pyramids and governments with three branches and tactics such as "triangulating" as Bill Clinton loved to say. But notice more visible buildings are boxed shaped as are more social networks with wider distribution of power. Man can be perfect as we evolve toward circular systems of energy recycling.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 18:18 | 4975570 Radical Marijuana
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Raging Debate ... There may well be more scientific and technological miracles in the future, IF civilization can survive its collective insanities being pumped up by the progress in science and technology already achieved.

HOWEVER, AT THE PRESENT TIME, WE ARE HEADED TOWARDS EXPONENTIAL GROWTH OF STRIP-MINING THE WHOLE PLANET RESULTING IN SOME VERY EXTREME FORMS OF SCARCITIES!

Most realistically speaking, I am wasting my time when I bother to try to communicate my ideas, because actually the world will continue being controlled by huge lies, backed up with violence, while the MAJORITY of "We the People" act like even worse political idiots.

You are right that I can not imagine any possible realistic revolution but one that ends up with a different ruling class than the one that now rules. However, I would like that to be quite a different ruling class! I like to imagine the emergence of a transnational scientific community that would become motivated to move beyond where the banksters' systems are now. However, I cannot imagine how we would actually get there without psychotic breakdowns and several social storms happening first, after which, all bets are off, because the future becomes too unpredictable, after that happens.

My view is that the banksters WILL succeed in creating their kind of "New World Order," which will then fail in tragic ways. Currently I am not able to maintain even the slightest shred of optimistic idealism regarding the future. Everything that I observe is very rapidly heading in the opposite direction! Furthermore, guys like Brandon Smith, et alia, will actually only add to the marginal collapses into chaos, since they provide nothing better than attempts to resist the banksters ... while 99% of the people continue to become even worse Zombie Sheeple, whose possible "resistance" will probably only make things get even worse, faster, since that "resistance" will be based on the same old false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals, that always backfire in the real world.

Therefore, while there are surely lots and lots of theoretically possible creative alternatives, and maybe some more relative scientific and political miracles, certainly including significant life extension biomedical methods, the overall realities are current the collapse of civilization into chaos, due to it being dominated by systems of lies backed by violence, which are automatically becoming more psychotically insane every day!

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 04:39 | 4979172 MEAN BUSINESS
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The ZH voodoo doll treatment didn't prevent you from replying and thanks for doing so !

Too late to think straight, but the only way I can imagine how we would actually get there is to "turn the bucket over, turn the lantern low" meaning demonstrate that if psychotic breakdowns and severe social storms is what it is going to take to get to work on this the REAL PROBLEM, then it's best we get on with it. The trajectory makes it clear that waiting is pointless. In short call the bankster's bluff, because that's all it has been all along, a big bluff. What I see going on leads me to believe that this moment of truth rapidly approaches...

The Gates Of Delirium, Soon...

 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 00:26 | 4982324 Radical Marijuana
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"... then it's best we get on with it ..."

From a personal point of view, perhaps that depends upon how old you are, and what your own personal circumstances are, in your own local environment.

As an older Canadian, where their bubble has not popped yet ... I have no direct reasons to want to speed up the collapses. Indeed, in my own situation, the threat of collapses is purely theoretical, since Canada is one of the privileged countries, where they are still only in debt slavery, rather than facing runaway debt insanities. For most Canadians, the rest of the world's problems have no direct impact. We have enough resources left to strip-mine for "quite a while," before we would be forced to change.

I am not sure that an individual drop of water can hasten the storms? I only look at the imaginary horizon of history and see there huge storm clouds brewing! I still think, theoretically speaking, that these phenemena ARE on exponential rates of increase, and so, "this moment of truth rapidly approaches!"

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 05:35 | 4982603 MEAN BUSINESS
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From a chemistry point of view an individual drop can BRING the storm, not merely hasten it. As ZH commentator Spumoni pointed out a few months ago, and it struck me because I performed this exact process:

"The thing about a closed system is this: quantum events happen. The electron doesn't gradually make its way from the K valence to the L valence-it jumps those angstroms all at once. You don't precipitate the gold from an acid solution of aqua regia gradually - the reaction doesn't happen until the level of sodium metabisufite is enough to trigger the reaction. The fossil record is jammed full of species that failed to adapt to a changing environment - and if the percentage of free oxygen in our atmosphere goes too far from the well-established norm that nobody argues about, then we, my friend, are done. Full stop. If the several hundred billion tons we dump each year into our atmosphere is or isn't what pushed it over the edge, there will be nobody left to argue the point."

(the link may fail due to ZH archive wipe)

 

 

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 13:26 | 4988746 Radical Marijuana
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I agree in a vaguely theoretical way, because whenever events at the quantum level somehow are able to manifest their STRANGENESS at our level, where the laws of VERY LARGE NUMBERS tend to make very regular patterns out of the individually STRANGE quantum events, then ordinary common sense statistical materialism may be overthrown.

Lots of people like to play with the notions that "freedom of choice" may originate at the quantum level inside brains, in ways which transcend the definition of individuals, when perceived on the aggregate level of VERY LARGE NUMBERS. Perhaps they are right ??? (in some way) ... However, for ordinary human beings, it is NOT possible to make air to breathe, water to drink, or food to eat out of nothing, nor is it possible to make any waste products actually disappear. But nevertheless, the dynamic equilibria of different systems of organized lies operating robberies would surely transcend their relative definitions, and extend into the quantum world. Therefore, changes in those dynamic equilibria could happen in unpredictable ways, as far as the VERY LARGE NUMBERS common sense views of statistical materialism would expect?

In my view, it is quite possible, if not probable, IF civilization survives, that progress in sceince could make more major breakthroughs, enabling technological miracles. However, none of those actually resolve the need for even greater political miracles. Rather, any more technological miracles shall only end up feeding the enforced frauds, rather than reducing those problems, without some series of political miracles.

THE BASIC PROBLEM IS THAT NATURAL SELECTION ALWAYS EXISTS, AND HUMAN BEINGS NECESSARILY MUST OPERATE ARTIFICIAL SELECTION SYTEMS, BUT, THOSE WERE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED TO BE DONE THROUGH THE MAXIMUM POSSIBLE DECEITS AND FRAUDS, AND THAT INCLUDES THE WAYS THAT GUYS LIKE BRANDON SMITH, ET ALIA, STILL THINK ABOUT THOSE PROBLEMS!

None of the ways of thinking in scientific areas like the special theory of relativity or quantum mechanics appear to be understood by the people who have control over weapons of mass destruction and mass surveillance. Furthermore, the controlled opposition groups to those also overwhelmingly still think in old-fashioned ways, using false fundamental dichotomies, which then promote impossible ideals that deliberately ignore the real mechanisms of how things actually work.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 09:23 | 4972821 Raging Debate
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dupe

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 09:35 | 4972891 sam site
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Excellent Article - A crucial element to obtaining a decentralized individually-oriented world are healthy, energetic citizens who are eternally vigilant watchdogs over their money and health.

The public loses their independence and becomes captured by toxic injury by ingesting chemicals and metals, placed in their air, food, water and medicine in order to disable their clear and critical thinking skills.

Health is the key to freeing ourselves from the elite's Slavery Agenda through toxic injury.  I'm an libertarian in the Ayn Rand tradition, who believes that all taxes should be voluntary and made between private parties of individuals completely without any government involvement or coercion. 

These arrangements, are now much easier because of the internet.  We can also eliminate the Nanny State and government-protected monopolies like the one Allopathic Medicine has enjoyed since 1913 by using internet feedback.

We can all free ourselves form the elite's death grip by detoxifying the poisons they have disabled ourselves with.

To learn more read these two articles from a New Zealand chemist and Naturopathic Doctor I'm real keen on and have been doing his detox regemen for the past 4 months with great success. 

There is hope and with detoxification and health we can eventually build a utopia based on indivual freedom and be impervious to the banker aand corporate bullies of the world.  It's time we took the bull by the horns.

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/morenergy.htm

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

 

 

 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 09:39 | 4972904 gcjohns1971
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There is only ONE reason for a LIE - ALWAYS AND EVERYWHERE:

A lie is universally intended to change the recipient's behavior from what it would be if they knew the facts.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 09:44 | 4972917 sam site
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Excellent Article - A crucial element to obtaining a decentralized individually-oriented world are healthy, energetic citizens who are eternally vigilant watchdogs over their money and health.

The public loses their independence and becomes captured by toxic injury by ingesting chemicals and metals, placed in their air, food, water and medicine in order to disable their clear and critical thinking skills.

Health is the key to freeing ourselves from the elite's Slavery Agenda through toxic injury.  I'm an libertarian in the Ayn Rand tradition, who believes that all taxes should be voluntary and made between private parties of individuals completely without any government involvement or coercion. 

These arrangements, are now much easier because of the internet.  We can also eliminate the Nanny State and government-protected monopolies like the one Allopathic Medicine has enjoyed since 1913 by using internet feedback.

We can all free ourselves from the elite's death grip by detoxifying the poisons they have disabled ourselves with.

To learn more read these two articles from a New Zealand chemist and Naturopathic Doctor I'm real keen on and have been doing his detox regemen for the past 4 months with great success. 

There is hope and with detoxification and health we can eventually build a utopia based on individual freedom and be impervious to the banker and corporate bullies of the world.  It's time we took the bull by the horns.

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/morenergy.htm

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 10:17 | 4973109 messystateofaffairs
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I don't know about the rest of you but I yearn for a great Jewish world king to lead us all in a docile and peaceful existence. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:12 | 4999081 Argieboy
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That's the time you will known we have come to the end of times.. :)

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 13:51 | 4974392 honestann
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The so-called "New World Order" is simply a soundbite that means "complete [full spectrum] domination of mankind by human predators".  Unless human producers learn the absolute need for aggressive self-defense against predators, they will continue to be utterly dominated prey.

Fortunately, quite a few producers have (and continue to) go on strike in one way or another to limit or prevent their production from aiding the predators-that-be and predator-class.  Unfortunately, the percentage is small, and ultimately far from sufficient.

And so, humanity, RIP.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 21:05 | 4978591 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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This dude is young and naive to think he can fight against the $1.4 Quadrillion derivatives universe and come out on the other side with a future intact. Dream on because that's all you will ever have after tax, that is. There is death, and taxes, and that's about all you will get aside from gmo foods, and parking tickets.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 13:27 | 4993845 MeelionDollerBogus
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Dunno...

could fight the NWO

or could support Cory C for Southwest Regional warlord...

torn

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