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Russian TV Live Coverage Of Malaysian Airlines Jet Crash

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This is a video feed from Russian news outlet Life News which will obviously have an appropriate bias. We are using it as they are the first news crew to allegedly have reporters on the crash site. The images are disturbing.

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Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:49 | 4968400 gafgroocK
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Wow, fastest coverage in the World....as...if...they knew where to go...ahead ...of time....

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:50 | 4968410 timeless21
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Time traveling ?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:54 | 4968449 MillionDollarBonus_
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This is exactly why we need tighter safety regulations. We also need a way of enforcing laws at a global level in order to raise standards across the board. Safety advocates have been warning about the dangers of lax safety regulations for decades and this just vindicates what we have been saying. Come on people, this is common sense!

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:01 | 4968486 nope-1004
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Bankers need to hang for this.  The falling USD from reserve status has the inner DC boyz all in a tizzy.  They'll do anything now, including shooting down passenger planes.  9/11 was the beginning of the airline fetish.

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:05 | 4968551 joethegorilla
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What time is your mom serving lunch?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:11 | 4968582 Say What Again
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Its only the middle of the day, and the major indexes are on their way back to positive territory.

The DOW, NDX, & RUT will ALL be in the green by the close.

I love this "markit"

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:20 | 4968652 Pladizow
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WTF was a passenger airline doing in a war zone??? V

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:20 | 4968658 COSMOS
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Dang...Obama still holds a grudge against the Malaysian chick that shot him down for a date when he was a teenager.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:23 | 4968682 Ward no. 6
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ppl have died

cruel to make some sort of joke out of this

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:28 | 4968713 Freddie
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I think most of us are enraged by this shit.  Hope and Change NWO.  This stuff with Malaysian Airlines two disasters are total NWO BS and murder.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:10 | 4969009 eclectic syncretist
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The Banksters first false flag didn't work so they've taken it up a notch.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:21 | 4969097 InjectTheVenom
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so, you guys are all saying this wasn't caused by a bird strike ? 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:30 | 4969157 strannick
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We're dumb enough for 911, we are dumb enough for two Malaysian airliner accidents in two months.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 19:05 | 4970723 Flagit
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cruel to make some sort of joke out of this

Too soon?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:29 | 4968717 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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You must be joking...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:02 | 4968960 RealityCheque
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That was no chick....

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:03 | 4968966 RealityCheque
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Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:07 | 4968993 MsCreant
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If you want this joke to have a chance to work, go with a Malaysian "twink." No one will buy the chick thing with all the gay stuff folks like to do at his expense. Or an old white dude. Rumor has it he likes them to suck him off. But that would not fit this plane incident.

And, yeah, it's too early. Plenty of time to be crude later.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:10 | 4969014 JRobby
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It was at 62K ft. Sophisticated weaponry needed to take it down from the ground and air.

 

Major Alan "Dutch" Schaefer to Dillon: "This is some pretty sophisticated stuff for some half-assed mountain boys"

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:25 | 4969134 earnulf
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More like 33,000 per the planes own tracking reports and media reports.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:42 | 4969182 JRobby
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Of course you must be correct.

I thought I had read 10km but it was 10k meters

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 15:11 | 4969451 BadLibertarian
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???

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 15:16 | 4969452 BadLibertarian
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Those values work out to be the same thing. 10km = 10,000 meters = approx. 33k feet.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 15:17 | 4969481 BigJim
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Maff be hard.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:19 | 4968654 Flakmeister
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Easy money to be made...

Quit living in denial....

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:37 | 4968766 MsCreant
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Do you really believe these markets are NOT manipulated? I agree folks are doing things to make money off of this, but do you not think that they (They Fed) can buy what they want to raise the statistics to look the way they want them too? I doubt it takes a phone call. I bet there is an ap for that!

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:45 | 4968846 Flakmeister
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Define manipulated....

Is it any more "manipulated" than it has been in the past? 

Don't forget that you got to keep dancing until the music stops....

And when the music *does* stop, it won't really matter one way or the other, will it?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:01 | 4968945 MsCreant
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You told the poster they were in denial. I interpreted that to be about their claim of manipulation.

Manipulated: The Fed, through agents (banks, other market makers), "prints" and buys stock when prices look like they are starting to tank.

I am no expert, but I believe there are things possible with HFT that were never possible before. I also think that means it can crash harder than it ever could before.

I am dancing as little as possible. But maybe you were being sarcasic/ironic.

The music will not "stop" unless there is a radioactive event/disaster of some kind. It will wind down and go slower, and slower. Kinda like the pace the oil will run out. But you know that...

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:28 | 4969150 Flakmeister
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Theyare in denial that the market is rising despite what they think it should be....

Recall that those that held on to their stocks during the Weimar collapse did fine...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 15:20 | 4969497 BigJim
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Stocks were better than cash, obviously. But PMs did best:

http://detlevschlichter.com/2014/03/do-equities-and-real-estate-give-you...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:36 | 4969205 JRobby
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"I believe there are things possible with HFT that were never possible before."  Bingo!

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 23:55 | 4969751 dogbreath
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If it won't really matter one way or the other why do you make such a big deal of alleged AGW.    do you have multiple personalities

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:47 | 4968853 Flakmeister
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Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:07 | 4968559 magpie
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Regime change is up to the citizens of Western nations, don't expect any Russian or Chinese expeditionary corps to liberate you.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:26 | 4968698 john39
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true. but they can break beast's back in an economic war in a way that the common citizen cannot. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:00 | 4968502 BaBaBouy
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YES Sir, Big Brother...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:02 | 4968518 takeaction
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Yeah..I agree...they really should ban surface to air missles, RPG's.  These things are not for kids.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:38 | 4968778 MsCreant
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He is good troll, dah?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:03 | 4968536 Dr. Richard Head
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How exactly would tighter safety regulations of air travel stop a fucking missle launched from the ground from hitting an airplane.  You are one retarded bag of cum.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:41 | 4968804 MsCreant
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Fight with accredited effigies much?

http://accredited-times.com/author/milliondollarbonus/

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:13 | 4969042 Overfed
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Hey Doc, you need to get yer sarc detector repaired.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:11 | 4968583 thamnosma
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3 dollar bogus, I must assume your posts are intentional bullshit to get a rise out of the rest of us. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:12 | 4968591 bbq on whitehou...
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These familes are dead, and they are not dead because of any rules or regulations. They are dead because Obama gave an order making it so.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:17 | 4968626 RevRex
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How dare you blame Obama? "He is just a puppet"...this is "Busches fawlt"

 

I learned that here from cowards who down arrow posts, but don't refute them...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:27 | 4968690 Dr. Richard Head
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We libertariantards do not blame either party or either figure head as soley responsible for our ills.  Our point is that the main ideas behind both parties' platforms are fundamentally the same.  There may be some nuances that differentiate each with rhetoric, but the idea is the same behind both - governmental control of resources, currency, and people.  Most of us that I know in the libertarian community lay equal blame on both parties.

I gave a down arrow.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:47 | 4968858 MsCreant
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You never answered my answer to your post yesterday.

 

RevRex
Vote up!

1 Vote down!

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Using tax dollars to buy votes for Democrats is a longstanding Democrap Party tradition.......but I know "Busch did it two and boath party''s hour the same".....right LiberTARDian voters???

 

 

Please feel free to down arrow me if you are too cowardly to refute my post......it's what cowards and idiots like to do.....

 

 

Wed, 07/16/2014 - 13:26 | 4963307

 

 

MsCreant
Vote up!

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I down voted you because you seemed to want someone to.

Both parties are bought and paid for by the same corporations. Both are supported by lobbyists that you and I cannot afford to pay for. Those lobbyists will get their way you and I will get screwed.

I am not sure what to refute. What did you put out there to be refuted?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:17 | 4968629 Endgamer
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#UnitedForUkraine

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:22 | 4968676 Renewable Life
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Instead of handing over more power to the government, how about we DONT fly passenger planes over a fucking war zone???

I know, just too common senisical for most of the big gov lunatics to comprehend, but seems pretty obvious to the average human!

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:22 | 4968677 Professorlocknload
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MDB, you are one sick puppy. Seek help.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:53 | 4969314 JRobby
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MDB - Troll

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:51 | 4968416 realWhiteNight123129
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They live next door idiot.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:56 | 4968461 blabam
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And probably covering the fucking WAR that is going on there. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:58 | 4968475 Spitzer
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And how are we going to blame the joo's for this one ?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:03 | 4968532 chunga
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Do you have a guilty conscience or something?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:23 | 4968678 Anusocracy
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Too bad you aren't capable of distinguishing between Zionists and Jews.

All governments are evil, the people only to the extent they support the government.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 20:05 | 4971031 Anusocracy
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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-12/uom-ips120111.php

Israeli public supports middle east nuclear free zone: UMD poll

COLLEGE PARK, Md. -- Nearly two-thirds of Israeli Jews, 64 percent, favor establishing a nuclear free zone in the Middle East - even when it was spelled out that this would mean both Israel and Iran would have to forego nuclear weapons - finds a new University of Maryland poll. The research is a joint project of the Anwar Sadat Chair at the University of Maryland and the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA).

Pressure for such a nuclear free zone has grown with the potential for Iran acquiring a nuclear weapon, possibly leading to a regional arms race, the researchers say. Next year the United Nations will sponsor a conference devoted to the idea. The Israeli government opposes creation of such a zone.

In the new poll, fewer than half, 43 percent, support an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities. Recently, even leading voices within Israel's defense community have said that such a strike would merely slow, but not stop Iran and that Israeli cities would be vulnerable to retaliation.

At the same time the Israeli public acknowledges Iran's potential for acquiring nuclear weapons. An overwhelming 90 percent say it is likely that Iran will eventually acquire a nuclear capacity.

When asked which would be better - for both Israel and Iran to have nuclear weapons, or for neither to have them - a robust 65 percent say it would be better for neither to have them. Only 19 percent prefer a nuclear armed Israel and Iran.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:28 | 4968710 my_nym
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Easy, this probably resulted from Victoria "F the EU." Nuland's coup.

 

  1. Meet Neocon “Doughnut Dolly” Victoria Nuland > Strategic ... www.strategic-culture.org/.../meet-neocon-doughnut-dolly-victoria-nula...

    Dec 18, 2013 - Kagan, a co-founder of PNAC, monitors his wife's activities from his perch ... Victoria Nuland is, indeed, the proper “Doughnut Dolly” for the paid ...

  2. FUCK YOU VICTORIA NULAND AND FUCK YOUR WHOLE ... wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/.../fuck-you-victoria-nuland-and-fuck-...

    Feb 8, 2014 - Nuland is married to historian Robert Kagan, with whom she has two ... lobby group named the Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

  3. Victoria Nuland's family ties: The Permanent Government in ... www.theoccidentalobserver.net/.../victoria-nulands-f...
    Occidental Observer 

    Feb 9, 2014 - Donald Kagan was also a signatory to a 2002 letter to George W. Bush put out by Bill Kristol's Project for the New American Century (PNAC) ...

 

Ironically, people might not be focused on them and their empire building if they hadn't had a hand in 911.  Kagan Khazars, still empire building for Zion?

 

Apparently most people were fine with being trickled down on, until they became a targetted group of peasants too.  

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:49 | 4968883 Flakmeister
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Your bio says it all...

Loosen the chinstraps on your tinfoil helmet....

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:00 | 4968504 takeaction
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This is Fake.....becuase when Flight 93 Crashed on 9/11 in the field, you can see what really happens in a crash. We were shown what happens to planes that crash.  There is nothing left.  Bodies, Plane, engines, they all vaporize.  If you look at the photos of Flight 93 you will see what a real crash looks like...so I don't buy it.

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/sarc
http://911review.com/errors/phantom/flight93.html

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:07 | 4968558 holgerdanske
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Why should this be fake? How can you say that without knowing how the plane came down?

If the plane was hit by a missile it does not necessarily mean it will fall like a stone. The pilot might even have been trying to make an emergency landing. I don't know, and I doubt you do.

That this should be a fake is highly doubtful, just because of time alone.

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:12 | 4968586 takeaction
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It is sarcasm....Flight 93 was a fake.  See the /sarc at the bottom.  Flight 93 was faked...this is what a fake crash looks like.  This crash is the real deal.  Just like 3 building magically coming down on 9/11...

Here are the Flight 93 Bogus photos...

Make sure that you read in this blog that the FBI recovered 95% of the plane from Flight 93's crash...Really???

 http://killtown.blogspot.com/2010/01/flight-93-crash-was-massive-hoax.ht...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:15 | 4968618 Thought Processor
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In each case, I blame the missles.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:19 | 4968651 NickVegas
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The second rule of fight club, don't feed the trolls.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:12 | 4968595 thamnosma
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Your sarcasm meter is broken.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:17 | 4968636 spellbound
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You did not read the sarc tag.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:18 | 4969087 Rootin' for Putin
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Well these bodies will look different of course. 

They have been in a freezer for almost 6 months

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 19:26 | 4970823 Flagit
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Funny, i was just thinking that myself.

The pictures are QUITE different.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:01 | 4968512 earleflorida
Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:07 | 4968560 junction
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From the Wall Street Journal today: "In 2001, the Ukrainian military mistakenly shot down a commercial passenger jet that was en route from Tel Aviv to Novosibirsk with a land-to-air missile that was fired during a military exercise. All the 66 passengers and 12 crew members on board the plane were killed in the blast."

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:17 | 4969071 motorollin
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Link or pic please?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 20:03 | 4971019 motorollin
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Thank you

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:15 | 4968620 peak.singularity
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Wouldn't be the first time. A few days ago, when buildings in East Ukraine were shelled, it would seem that the Russian TV crews were on site faster than firefighters...

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:28 | 4968711 jcamargo
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I hope they did not mess with the crime scene.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:31 | 4968727 Renewable Life
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You stupid little child, there's a fucking war going on in the Ukraine, the east of the Country succeeded, it's on the Russian border!!

I know you fucking clowns that don't believe that borders mean anything, can't comprehend this, but people do give a shit in MOST Countries what is happening on their borders!!

For gods sake, when the US invaded Iraq a fucking half world away, the US reporters were so thick, you could almost embed one in every fucking unit on the battlefield, and your thinking because the Russian media is on the scene fast, it's a fucking conspiracy!!!

Your just a clueless, fucking sheeple clown, brainwashed tool!!

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:50 | 4968402 syntaxterror
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There are photos of the billows of smoke visibly from miles away. Not hard to find. Even for the average idiot.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:55 | 4968454 pomlad5
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let alone smarth idiot

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:17 | 4968638 syntaxterror
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Smarth idiot indeed.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:49 | 4968408 doomandbloom
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how did the first agencies to report this event call it "shot down" instead of "crash"?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:56 | 4968459 Dr. Richard Head
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You see....well.......ahhhhhhh.......we had some.........uhhhhhhhhhhh........eye witness accounts.  That's it.  We have some unidentified sources that wish to remain annonymous that......ahhhhhhhh.........

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:01 | 4968491 buzzsaw99
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how did the bond market know at 6 a.m. e.t.? how did they report the WTC-7 collapse hours ahead of time?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltP2t9nq9fI

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:00 | 4968501 _ConanTheLibert...
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Ha! Busted! Bastards.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:03 | 4968537 TheCanadianAustrian
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The Ukranian Interior Ministry was quick to declare that rebels shot it down.

Come on guys. Not everything is caused by aliens and ghosts and time traveling journalists.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:51 | 4968904 schnydz
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Well, this is zerhedge after all. Seems to attract the tin-foil hat brigade from time to time. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:20 | 4968657 gcjohns1971
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They ASS-U-MEd it was because the Western Ukrainian authorities seized the event for propaganda purposes faster.

At this point there is LITERALLY NO WAY TO KNOW FOR SURE WHAT HAPPENED. 

Even if it were the West Ukrainians, it is unlikely the firing battery (if three is one) would be able to get a comprehensive report ot Kiev so quickly while battle is going on.

Don't jump to conclusions.

The first reports are always ALWAYS wrong in significant respects.

How do you know it wasn't a mid-air collision with another aircraft?

Or a freak collision with an artillery round or artillery surface-to-surface rocket?

We don't know that it was at 35000 feet when hit.  We only know it had been at 35000 feet PRIOR to the crash.  There's 35,000 feet there for something else to happen.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:35 | 4968750 El Vaquero
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There are unofficial reports that rebels are claiming that they accidently shot it down.  *shruggs*  Who knows?  Like Tyler said in another article, take everything with a mine of salt. 

 

One thing is for damned sure though.  I would not set foot on a plane that I knew was going to fly over Ukraine.  It's a warzone, and bad shit happens in warzones. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:50 | 4968413 observer007
Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:51 | 4968415 youngman
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Reports now say the RUSSIAN Rebels claim to have shot it down..by MISTAKE..

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:59 | 4968492 CrashisOptimistic
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The latest report:

Ransquawk

ukraine-separatist-leader-alexander-borodai-says-malasian-airliner-shot-down-by-ukrainian-government-forces-17-07-2014

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:22 | 4968666 Flakmeister
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What the fuck else would you expect him to say?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:00 | 4968498 mototard
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The initial reports are saying that the Malaysian Airlines aircraft was shot down by a BUK launcher (NATO Codename SA-11 Gadfly or updated version SA 17 Grizzly.)   Associated Press journalists near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhne had said they had seen a similar launcher earlier on Thursday If true, this is serious stuff.   The SA 11 is a medium range missile that needs a network of radars and vehicles to support it when it fires  (detection radar, acquisition and then fire control). In other words,  it is a deliberate and planned act to fire the missile and requires the input of multiple persons.  This is not some lone soldier with a shoulder controlled surface to air missile like a SA-7 or SA-9. This is NOT to say the operator knew it was a civy airliner, but it does say the act was deliberate - regardless of what they were shooting at.
Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:14 | 4968609 gcjohns1971
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Not really.

I noted in some detail how an air defense system works on some of the other artilces on this instance.

The Air Defense crew (whether east or west) wouldn't be running their radars all the time for fear of being targetted by artillery.  They would be relying on long range 'early warning' radars that can't be used for targeting until the last possible moment, and then lighting up the target, firing, then relocating to avoid reciprocal fire from the other side.

However, some of those early warning radars are now networked with the West Ukraine forces, and some with the East and the Russians. This would make both air pictures have significant holes and blank spots where the firing battery would have no information.

Each aircraft is also equiped with a 'squawk' frequency and an IFF transponder to identify them. 

But if the battery's firing fan is adjacent to one of the holes (which would be tactically likely) then they only see a quick blip, and have seconds to decide to fire or not.

No one outside of those handful of vehicles would have access to the decision.

So, no, it doesn' thave to be deliberate even if it was a missile.

 

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:04 | 4968538 joethegorilla
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Kind of like the Chernobyl mistake. And the Kursk. And the Olympic ceremony.  

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:51 | 4968418 undercover brother
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what a mess.  those assholes shoot down a defenseless passenger jet, then deny responsibilty.  they're nothing but a bunch of cowards.  

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:01 | 4968513 Spitzer
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But air travel is safe. And they have laws that we have to wear helmets on motorcycles. What a joke.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:54 | 4968448 earleflorida
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www.atimes.com/

 is site working?

I can't link-- down???

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:55 | 4968451 MykeTheVet
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First: my condolsences to any innocents and their families. There are always CoLLaterAL DaMaGe *terrible arnold impersonation* in these silly wars.

Question: 

shot down or mechanical failure? Get to the facts and report them ASAP before the AP spin machine takes hold. 

Next question: any major financial and/or legislative news coming down the pipe today? I'm always looking for the distraction. 

Off topic: Want to give a shout out to Paul "I dont care if I'm wrong" krugman for stepping down: it's long overdue. 

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:15 | 4968619 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Paul "I dont care if I'm wrong" krugman

Steping down from what?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 15:06 | 4969400 MsCreant
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2014/07/14/is-paul-krugman-leavin...

Professor Paul Krugman is leaving Princeton.  Is he leaving in disgrace?

Not long, as these things go, before his departure was announced Krugman thoroughly was indicted and publicly eviscerated for intellectual dishonesty by Harvard’s Niall Ferguson in a hard-hitting three-part series in the Huffington Post, beginning here, and with a coda in Project Syndicateall summarized at Forbes.com.  Ferguson, on Krugman:

Where I come from … we do not fear bullies. We despise them. And we do so because we understand that what motivates their bullying is a deep sense of insecurity. Unfortunately for Krugtron the Invincible, his ultimate nightmare has just become a reality. By applying the methods of the historian – by quoting and contextualizing his own published words – I believe I have now made him what he richly deserves to be: a figure of fun, whose predictions (and proscriptions) no one should ever again take seriously.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:55 | 4968453 Itchy and Scratchy
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Can a day get any better for the lovely Sec of State Victoria (F.U.) Nuland (nee: Nudleman) Kaygan?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:56 | 4968463 JohninMK
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That looks a real mess.

However it was caused and whatever we may say about it here on ZH, it is really a very sad day for all the people directly affected by it.

These will get much more agony and angst but they are just more innocent victims, to be added to the many unsung dead on the ground, from the lighting of the Ukrainian cauldron.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:56 | 4968464 moonman
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Malaysia Airlines has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace. More details to follow.

— 
Malaysia Airlines (@MAS) July 17, 2014

 

 

Does anyone really believe that the first thing an airline does when they lose their second plane in 7 months is send out a tweet?

If so....that's just fucked up.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:58 | 4968477 kowalli
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  Poroshenko announced July 8 no-fly zone...
Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:00 | 4968499 blabam
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Link?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:58 | 4968478 Squid Viscous
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Wi Tu Lo

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:59 | 4968481 EverythingEviL
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I can't understand themmmmmmmmm

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 12:59 | 4968488 observer007
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Latest on MH17:

The first alleged eyewitness photo of debris of MH17 Malaysian Airlines plane has been released. Considering the amount of propaganda involved in this tragic development, take everything with a mine of salt. Source: RT

Latest:

http://tersee.com/#!q=mh17&t=text

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:00 | 4968500 Chupacabra-322
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Israel was in possession of an airliner exactly like the Malaysian 370 disappearing plane at the time of that incident. Why would they have a plane which had "Malaysian markings on it at all? This reeks of a False Flag.

Also, who in their right mind would be flying a passenger jet over a known "war zone". BTW the BRICS countries are quickly moving forward to circumvent the "Rothschild Central bank scheme. Cuba is on board to be the next member. This poses a direct threat to Jewish Hegemony in the world of finance- INTEREST FREE MONEY!

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:03 | 4968533 moonman
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Wow Cuba? Now we are in deep shit.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:01 | 4968507 Cacete de Ouro
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MH17 crashed on 17th July 2014

It's first flight was on 17th July 1997, making it exactly 17 years to the day that it crashed

See http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Boeing/777/28411,9M-MRD-Mal...

Plane Reg number 9M-MRD = MuRDer

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:19 | 4968641 Thought Processor
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We are way beyond strange now.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:31 | 4968726 Tsar Pointless
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9M-MRD

"Dial 'M' for Murder". Great movie. And don't have to dial a '9' in a company to get an outside line?

Remember that the London bombings in 2005 occured on 7/7.

7/7/2005=777,

I love coincidences, don't you?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:38 | 4968771 Cathartes Aura
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"Is IMF Chief Christine Lagarde delivering an occult message in this speech?"

 

Published on May 24, 2014

“7? references:
1:22 – “Now I’m going to test your numerology skills by asking you to think about the magic seven”
1:34 – “Most of you will know that seven is quite a number
2:24 – “2014, you drop the zero, fourteen, two times, seven”
4:08 – “It will mark the 70th anniversary, 70th anniversary, drop the zero, seven, of the Bretton Woods Conference that actually gave birth to the IMF” (7 + 0 = 7)
4:22 – “And it will be the 25th anniversary of the fall of the berlin wall, 25th..” (2 + 5 = 7)
4:38 – “It will also mark the 7th anniversary of the financial market jietters”
5:08 – “After those seven miserable years, weak and fragile”
5:14 – “We have seven strong years”
5:43 – “Now I don’t know if the G7 will have anything to do with it” (G is also the 7th letter of the alphabet)

“2014? references:
1:18 – “The global economy and what we should expect for 2014?
2:19 – “So if we think about 2014?
2:24 – “2014, you drop the zero, fourteen, two times, seven”
3:54 – “So 2014 will be a milestone and hopefully a magic year in may respects”
5:05 – “So my hope and my wish for 2014?

The point for posting this here is, why is Lagarde bringing numerology up here? Is this a message? Is numerology real? Nonsense?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:45 | 4968848 NOTaREALmerican
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She might just be an idiot with a good job.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:55 | 4968924 Cathartes Aura
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aye.

and I might be the Vlad Putin.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:01 | 4968510 joethegorilla
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To all of you pro-Russian morons on here talking about how great Putin is every day on ZH. Just an FYI- this is why that country will never lead anything. This is why that country will never be a financial center. This is why their currency will never be in widespread use. This is why Europe always holds them at arm's length. There are some good things about Russia but the leaders just don't get it.  

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:03 | 4968528 blabam
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Drawing conclusions are we? 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:08 | 4968564 joethegorilla
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Based on credible news where the Russians admitted to shooting it down? Yes drawing conclusions based on that.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:39 | 4968790 Zerozen
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What credible news? No one knows what happened yet.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:21 | 4968674 RevRex
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Yes YOU are, but YOU appear to be too stupid to realize that it is what YOU are doing.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:12 | 4968596 giorgioorwell
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Joe the gorilla, you clearly have the mental capacity of a gorilla.

I'm not in anyway pro-Russia, pro-Ukraine, or pro-Obama for that matter, but your reasoning is completey empty.  

If some pro-Russian rebels accidentally shot down a plane, what does that have to do with Putin, Russia's currency or being a financial center.  US funded rebels are constantly mistakenly shooting at things they aren't supposed to...let alone the US's own military forces and drones.

Come back when your hangover has worn off

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:26 | 4968699 Canucklehead
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Are you really that stupid? ...Accidently?  You have the Pro-Russian Mafia willing to go to any lengths to maintain influence in the Ukraine.  Anyone smart enough to operate the equipment knew what they were hitting.  You don't get these skills working in a coal mine.  Putin put this "toy" in the hands of known killers and this was the result.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:12 | 4969027 giorgioorwell
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Bull#$%$

Your operating on rumor and blatantly false flag type news you naive moron.

Tyler just posted this about the ridicoulous news that Joe the Gorilla appears to be quoting 

 

"It is abundantly clear that nobody knows anything at this point (aside from the ridiculous "news" circulating on social networks that separatist leader Igor Strelkov admitted to shooting down the plane, which he did not as can be seen on his actual VK.com page), but that will not prevent the media from already having a clear narrative of exactly what happened, and State Department Jen Psaki will be unable to confirm or deny anything. Watch live below."

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:23 | 4969118 Rootin' for Putin
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Oh Jen, as factually accurate as Baghdad Bob with slightly less facial hair.

But not as funny.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:29 | 4969155 Canucklehead
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Do you really think anything goes on there without the Germans, Americans, Poles, Russians, et al not seeing it show up on their screens?  How stupid are you?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:22 | 4969111 SmallerGovNow2
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Really knucklehead?  What about this for an explaination?

MOSCOW, July 17 (RIA Novosti) - A Ukrainian army battalion of Buk air defense systems was deployed near the city of Donetsk a day before the crash of a Malaysian passenger plane on Thursday, making the downing of the aircraft by one of the missiles highly probable, an expert source said.

"According to reconnaissance data, a Ukrainian army battalion of Buk air defense systems was deployed near Donetsk on Wednesday morning,” the source said.

The source added that armed militia fighting Kiev-led forces in eastern Ukraine does not have Buk systems, which are capable of shooting down aircraft flying at altitudes up to 25 kilometers (82,000 feet).

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:13 | 4968606 FuzzyDunlop21
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I dont think anyone here thinks Russia will become a global superpower. But they cheer Putin on because he humiliates Obama every chance he gets. He exposes Obama as the soulless, emasculated leader that he is

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:14 | 4968615 El Hosel
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Take us to your leaders that get it.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:01 | 4968515 FranSix
Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:01 | 4968522 GreedKillz
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Would it not be appropriate for the US Government to blame it on Iran?

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:06 | 4968555 takeaction
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Keep your eyes wide open on this one...it will be interesting how the media/US government spins this and plays it out.  Right now I picture some powerful people sitting around a table or on a conference call saying "How should we play this one?".

Someone once said.."Never let a good crisis go wo waste."

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:30 | 4968722 cougar_w
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Sadly, that's exactly what will happen.

Greed won -- we have lost our moral compass.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:40 | 4968787 morongobill
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I smell a coverup about to happen.

So big that maybe the CIA/NSA can't keep a lid on it.

My guess is the Uke's shot it down, they are the only ones who would benefit.

Sometimes the obvious is right.

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:41 | 4968799 El Vaquero
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Which means that we get to get humiliated again.  It's what happens when you put crooked Chicago style politics up against former KGB strategy. 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:05 | 4968541 Nana
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2 in a row.......McDonaldDouglas boom taaa.........

Very sorry for the human loss..........TERRIBLE>>>>

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:06 | 4968552 Coletrane
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someone should get obama a newspaper, so He can be informed of this

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:09 | 4968572 SoDamnMad
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I'm watching Russian Chnnel 1 , the progaganda station of MR, and from the pictures the weather looks like lots of upper level clouds so this was a radar fix and in no way a visual on the target.  Very large, burning debris field with news reporters flocking to the scene by following the large black smoke plume.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:10 | 4968575 Hannibal
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Hm,....how come there was no plane debris and no bodies on the lawn of the (9/11) Pentagon?

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 16:17 | 4969830 Protokletos
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Are you kidding?  Before you spew your retard virus all over the internet, why don't you do a fucking google search?  

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0290.shtml

 

I'm sure you've done all of your research though, let's hear it....

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:11 | 4968579 RealityCheque
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Is this outlet run by Murdoch? Just wondering as the whole look of their coverage is identical.

Not like the old snake wouldn't have a dog in this hunt.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:12 | 4968589 kowalli
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Advisor to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine after the collapse of Zorian Shkiryak Malaysian Boeing aircraft in the east of the country called the United States and NATO to help the Ukrainian military in charge of special operations against the militias. "The United States should immediately provide us with modern precision weapons and support from the air, ground and NATO to begin a military operation to protect" - wrote Shkiryak

Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/41305 # ixzz37kMPxU5p

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:15 | 4968617 Fuku Ben
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You see what freedom gets us. Just more terrorism and death. Let's eliminate global rights and implement a new world order. That will keep us safe and solve all our problems. I nominate the UN to take charge. They seem honest and competent.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:18 | 4968645 SDRII
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Might be important: Lifenews Editor: Ashot Gabrelyanov, CEO of News Media LLC

 

2013

A key reason for their recent success: obsequious loyalty to the Kremlin. The father, Aram Gabrelyanov, refers to President Vladimir Putin as the "father of the nation," a fealty that was rewarded when one of Putin's oldest friends spent $80 million to become a key shareholder in the Gabrelyanovs' holding company, News Media, providing it with a flood of cash for investment.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/kremlin-helps-media-mogul...

of steve liesman fame that is

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:19 | 4968653 syntaxterror
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Damn, that crash site would never be shown live on any of bin-Obama's propoganda outlets. 

They're showing recovered passport photos now.

Horrifying for the families.

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:24 | 4968689 Tsar Pointless
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Goddamn juveniles on this site.

What about the ban on showing coffins of fallen U.S. soliders when they returned from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq under Cheney/Bush?

Look, not everything during the Bush years was his fault. Just as not everything in the Obama years is his fault.

Grow the fuck up.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:46 | 4968813 syntaxterror
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Owwww, why don't you go to DNC.com then? You can't deny that garbage media like the New York Crimes is bin-Obama's propoganda arm. 

Obama's fault? That weak faggot just plays golf these days. He isn't responsible for much. 

Oh, and probably just 100% coincidence that this happens on day of Peace Prize's sanctions.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 13:47 | 4968867 Tsar Pointless
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All you have is silly little name-games and slurs. Grow the fuck up and start acting like an adult.

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:02 | 4968965 syntaxterror
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Yes sir! 

Thank you for your adult guidance!

 

Thu, 07/17/2014 - 14:02 | 4968967 syntaxterror
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Yes sir! 

Thank you for your adult guidance!

 

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