President Obama Dictates What Happened In Ukraine And Whose Fault It Is - Live Feed

Tyler Durden's picture

President Obama was a little cagey early yesterday in finger-pointing or assigning blame... but later in the day, he was clear that Putin and Russia were responsible. This morning we are told that the US "believes" it was pro-Russian separatists "maybe." We await President Obama's statement (and hopefully Q&A) this morning as he explains the situation in Ukraine... and how he won't stand for it any longer. Despite Russia signing energy and investment deals with numerous nations around the world and being at the hub of the creation of the BRICS Bank, we are sure President Obama will dictate how isolated Russia is becoming (despite Europe's "fold" on further sanctions for fear of retaliation).


The President is due to speak at 1130ET...

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sunnydays's picture


The Ukraine Air Traffic Control was in complete charge of Malaysia flight MH17.

They had them fly a route directly through the war zone and out of the way than their normal flight and they had them fly lower than they requested.

aleph0's picture

... and see here ;

'It is suspicious the plane has deviated from the route it usually takes'


maskone909's picture

gee only 30 fucking minutes late. 

COSMOS's picture

Tyler seriously....Spending the advertising revenue on Hookers and Blow on the islands of Corfu and Mallorca instead of bandwidth....great thinking bud....

The connection and wait times suck....

CrazyCooter's picture

This Eagle Scout has the Nobel Peace Prize merit badge ... what could *possibly* go wrong!



Winston Churchill's picture

Never has so much malice, been combined with such incompetence, for

us to arrive at this sorry point in history.

Obozo is the epitomy of thwarting natural selection.

Even his owners must be tearing their hair out.

An evil fuckup,pure and simple.


DoChenRollingBearing's picture


Obama is such a dick, or would that be a "dicked"?

+ a big one re his owners.

ilion's picture

Why didn't any journalist ask the reason for the diversion of the flight path? It is clear that the Ukrainian side was behind this evil plot.

quasistable's picture

If there is any more evil in the world than Russia and Putler - it's the IDIOTS.

hedgeless_horseman's picture



When do we get to see the video of the missile launch and plane crash taken by the 5 dancing Israelis on the Ukraine rooftop to "document the event"?

angel_of_joy's picture

Keep the moron quiet, and he'll look less stupid !

Quus Ant's picture

Obama's acting hasn't improved since they tried this same schtick with Syria. 


knukles's picture

He is proceeding perfectly according to the Cloward-Piven doctrine.

john39's picture

Have to agree. whether or not he is aware of it, he is playing his role perfectly...

Winston Churchill's picture

Chaos is the aim of Cloward Piven.

What better than an evil incompetent to achieve it ?

PoliticalRefugeefromCalif.'s picture

Don't forget bankrupting the Union simultaneously destroying our national defense with endless terrorist attacks on brown people, in the process forever sealing the world opinion of the Great Satan..

-nothing about the chocolate ration increase this morning?

maskone909's picture

i hope you realize that the site is getting hacked and has nothing to do with what you are saying.  its pretty obvious tptb want this site down.

COSMOS's picture

Dang, nobody can take a joke these days...

maskone909's picture

cmon dawg, if that was a joke it was terrible. 

COSMOS's picture

I guess Mask must be the IT guy at ZH and he is not having a good day....

rccalhoun's picture

obama's skin tone looks 'yellow'.  he looks gaunt.  its not cig smoke stain anymore (he quit?).  has anyone else noticed his appearance?

maskone909's picture

yeah he quit the newports and switched to mad dog 20/20

his liver enzymes are now off the charts

pods's picture

Stop exciting me, it moved.


Colonel Klink's picture

Hopefully he has the same thing as my tomato plants, they yellow, then wither and die.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

I got this message several times today: "Site off-line. The site is currently not available due to technical problems. Please try again later. Thank you for your understanding."

DoChenRollingBearing's picture

Yes, I have had lots of trouble, on-and-off for almost a whole day.  Last night was even worse until about midnight (ET) or so.

knukles's picture

Denial of service attacks...
This is not the King's Crier and must be silenced

disabledvet's picture

Had a dead rabbit in the cellar. Should I be worried?

In the meantime "our words are failing to match the reality on the ground." So we find ourselves agreeing with what is happening...even when we are "dictating" phantom acts.

Usually pretty innocuous...but if there is a shot at Kiev...are we forced to change our pronouncements so we can reflect the fact that we have no responsibility in any matter whatsoever?

We are employing a sanctions regime. Yet we are not changing facts on the ground. Now new facts are being made (Gaza)...yet those have no sanction?

Certainly seems a lot more expensive (in human terms) than Russia taking Crimea.

Maybe there is simply an inability to grasp reality here..something beyond failing to act.

Hard to tell. There have been many stories of a Commander in Chief who really doesn't care all that much about the job and "thinks it's stupid."

Chief KnocAHoma's picture

Valerie Jarrett (Sitting in the den of the Obama’s Hamptons vacation home.) – Mr. President could you quit putting on the carpet for a minute and focus?

Obama (Glancing up with a look of scorn.) – Why are you always so serious Valerie? Relax… we’re on vacation.

Jarrett – But Mr. President I think we need to address a few issues.

Obama – Like what? (He tries to give a putt some body English.)

Jarrett – Well let’s see… there is the plane the Russians just blew from the sky, Israel is moving into Gaza, the border crisis, Obama care is collapsing, Issa and Goudy are closing the noose on the IRS scandal, Benghazi, the VA is a disaster….

Obama (Interrupting) – Okay… okay… I get it, the shit is piling up. What do you recommend?

Jarrett – We need to either solve at least one of the issues, or at very least change the subject.

Obama (With a puzzled look.) – Solve?  What is that?

Jarrett – Yeah it might be easier to just change the subject.

Obama (Looks up from his putting to admire himself in a mirror.) – I got it! Can you rent those columns we used back in 2008 in Denver? We could set them up on the beach and I’ll do a speech.

Jarrett – I think this may require more than a speech.


Obama (Exasperated) – Okay… okay… I’ll do two speeches.

barre-de-rire's picture

feel free to GTFO that will free some BW for others, fucker.

pods's picture

If you don't have the proof, STFU Chalky.

God, I can accept that 90% of 'mercans think with their heart (oxymoron I know) but Sweet Jesus do we all have to be a part of the reality show USSA?

Oh by the way, since you are a proven liar, most thinking people are not going to accept any poof (Cartman) that you may provide.

So that leaves STFU.


NemoDeNovo's picture

ROFLMAO -- Cartman


BO: "You will RESPECT my Authoritie"



JR's picture

If this were a case to be tried in a court of law, WordSmith, we would just be beginning the discovery portion: facts are coming in, lies are coming in, and now at least one head of state (Obama) is attempting to galvanize world opinion without providing any evidence.

These facts in your report bear consideration:

"The aircraft flying at the altitude of more than 10 thousand meters might be hit only with weapons like S-300 or Buk. The militias don’t have such weapons, and cannot afford them as it was acknowledged even by the Ukrainian Defense minister Valery Galetey in a statement on another issue two days before the Flight MH-17 tragedy:

“…a “powerful weapon” must have been used to down the plane flying at 6,500 meters, an altitude the shoulder-fired missiles used by the separatists can’t reach.”

"The Russian military expert Igor Korotchenko argues that the catastrophe in Donetsk was most likely caused by the incompetence and non-professionalism of the Ukrainian operators of the Buk systems during its testing after the battery was deployed in the new location. He said that the Ukrainian antiaircraft unit did not have any kind of proper training for the last 23 years since the collapse of Soviet Union..."

COSMOS's picture

He got caught in a sandtrap that is why he was late.

By the way I hear they now serve Nuland's brand cookies on international flights.  You will never fell hungry again after having just one.....

StychoKiller's picture

Hmm, probably too much C4 in the recipe...

Emergency Ward's picture

After 10 minutes the spineless stenographers of the media should show some backbone and walk out en masse.  I guess they are afraid the exit doors might be blocked by the SS.

"We're sorry, but no one leaves until The President is finished.  For Security Reasons."

Serfs Up's picture

Ha ha!

Obama offers the "services" of the NTSB.

Well, after the bang-up job they did with TWA 800, he might as well have said "we can help Kiev come up with any scenario they please!"


pods's picture

The NTSB probably has a non-published report about TWA 800 that they can find and replace "US missile" with "Russian Missile" and whamo!



hedgeless_horseman's picture



+1 to Pods and SerfsUp

COSMOS's picture

Hey Barry, I thought the CIA, FBI, NATO, NSA, State Dept, DOD, Blackwater, were already on the ground in Ukraine, what you gonna send more acronyms???  I'm confused.

Emergency Ward's picture

They are lacking the FDA, DFG and OSHA.  The EPA, the FTC and the FCC.  Overtime and per diem for the whole bunch.

knukles's picture

FCC is necessary to increase bandwidth so the SEC Enforcement Division can help, watching midget tranny porn all day

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

"When all else fails..." the best defense is a good offense.

It deflects and redirects the direction of thought elsewhere.  Classic lawyer and PR tricks.

schatzi's picture

Video clip doing the rounds showing the BUK minus 2 missiles being transported back(?) into Russia on a truck. Gee, I wonder why? The most simplest explanations are usually the most accurate. Trigger happy numpties without proper training, but with the right equipment, blow up the wrong plane by accident. Russia and friends in full damage control mode. Can't blame them, I'd do the same. I'm sure Putin is fuming and wants some heads to roll.

hedgeless_horseman's picture



So weak...pitiful. I demand better .gov trolling for my tax dollar.

schatzi's picture

I believe the difference between you and me is, that I try not to have any preconceived notions.


I don't see either side in the Ukraine conflict as being right or wrong. I've approached this incident with as neutral a stance as I could. Arguments based on cui bono - as the Russian side loves to use, are pointless as it prevents any factual discussion or search for evidence. Then you have those harebrained conspiracies with Putin being targeted, or a CIA setup. Etc. This place is a tinfoil hatters gathering for confirmation and support. Thinking thoughtfully and independently, means not believing every shit MSM serve you, but neither does it mean seeking confirmation of opinion in selective groups.


Sometimes shit happens, and what I've been able to gather on reports around the world, point to a rebel used BUK fuck-up. The rebels are the only side in this conflict that have used SAMs and which has a high military value and purpose for them. It's probably not even a Russian delivery but instead was found in one of those captured eastern Ukrainian airbases. Since Russia feels implicated, they're trying to focus the blame on Kiev. Do I think less of the rebels because of that? No, because I don't believe there was any intent. Well, maybe to some degree negative, because (if true), they used a highly destructive weapon without due diligence (if that is even possible in warfare).


Apart from that, Putin thinks the West is weak and he can fuck about as he pleases. Not wrong, but a dangerous assessment. The Krim worked to plan, the eastern Ukraine not so. Our western leaders are weak, but every player has a breaking point. Putin is overegging his agenda which is why I view him as highly dangerous. That Russia gives him that much support also confirms how far away from European values they are. Be it militaristic expansion, homosexuality, freedom of expression and so forth. Having the support at home doesn't mean he's right or can operate as he pleases. If he isolates his country even further, he will cause severe economic damage, despite ZeroH. rallying calls. Then his domestic support may fare differently.


Maybe another difference between you and me is that I can happily live with a negative ZH valuation, if it reflects my honest opinion.

bigrooster's picture

Sending the FBI right next to the Russian border.  Gee I am sure that nothing could go wrong with that idea.