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President Obama Dictates What Happened In Ukraine And Whose Fault It Is - Live Feed

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President Obama was a little cagey early yesterday in finger-pointing or assigning blame... but later in the day, he was clear that Putin and Russia were responsible. This morning we are told that the US "believes" it was pro-Russian separatists "maybe." We await President Obama's statement (and hopefully Q&A) this morning as he explains the situation in Ukraine... and how he won't stand for it any longer. Despite Russia signing energy and investment deals with numerous nations around the world and being at the hub of the creation of the BRICS Bank, we are sure President Obama will dictate how isolated Russia is becoming (despite Europe's "fold" on further sanctions for fear of retaliation).


The President is due to speak at 1130ET...


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Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:48 | 4973628 sunnydays
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The Ukraine Air Traffic Control was in complete charge of Malaysia flight MH17.

They had them fly a route directly through the war zone and out of the way than their normal flight and they had them fly lower than they requested.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:50 | 4973645 aleph0
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... and see here ;

'It is suspicious the plane has deviated from the route it usually takes'


Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:51 | 4973650 maskone909
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gee only 30 fucking minutes late. 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:54 | 4973669 COSMOS
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Tyler seriously....Spending the advertising revenue on Hookers and Blow on the islands of Corfu and Mallorca instead of bandwidth....great thinking bud....

The connection and wait times suck....

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:57 | 4973688 CrazyCooter
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This Eagle Scout has the Nobel Peace Prize merit badge ... what could *possibly* go wrong!



Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:05 | 4973756 Winston Churchill
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Never has so much malice, been combined with such incompetence, for

us to arrive at this sorry point in history.

Obozo is the epitomy of thwarting natural selection.

Even his owners must be tearing their hair out.

An evil fuckup,pure and simple.


Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:09 | 4973789 DoChenRollingBearing
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Obama is such a dick, or would that be a "dicked"?

+ a big one re his owners.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:19 | 4973841 ilion
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Why didn't any journalist ask the reason for the diversion of the flight path? It is clear that the Ukrainian side was behind this evil plot.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 13:08 | 4974137 quasistable
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If there is any more evil in the world than Russia and Putler - it's the IDIOTS.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 13:29 | 4974250 hedgeless_horseman
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When do we get to see the video of the missile launch and plane crash taken by the 5 dancing Israelis on the Ukraine rooftop to "document the event"?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:25 | 4973882 angel_of_joy
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Keep the moron quiet, and he'll look less stupid !

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:10 | 4973798 Quus Ant
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Obama's acting hasn't improved since they tried this same schtick with Syria. 


Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:13 | 4973807 knukles
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He is proceeding perfectly according to the Cloward-Piven doctrine.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:15 | 4973825 john39
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Have to agree. whether or not he is aware of it, he is playing his role perfectly...

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:21 | 4973852 Winston Churchill
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Chaos is the aim of Cloward Piven.

What better than an evil incompetent to achieve it ?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:34 | 4973930 PoliticalRefuge...
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Don't forget bankrupting the Union simultaneously destroying our national defense with endless terrorist attacks on brown people, in the process forever sealing the world opinion of the Great Satan..

-nothing about the chocolate ration increase this morning?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:57 | 4973696 maskone909
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i hope you realize that the site is getting hacked and has nothing to do with what you are saying.  its pretty obvious tptb want this site down.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:59 | 4973710 COSMOS
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Dang, nobody can take a joke these days...

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:02 | 4973732 maskone909
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cmon dawg, if that was a joke it was terrible. 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:20 | 4973848 Manthong
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So what else is new?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 14:48 | 4974713 COSMOS
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I guess Mask must be the IT guy at ZH and he is not having a good day....

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:02 | 4973725 rccalhoun
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obama's skin tone looks 'yellow'.  he looks gaunt.  its not cig smoke stain anymore (he quit?).  has anyone else noticed his appearance?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:03 | 4973743 maskone909
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yeah he quit the newports and switched to mad dog 20/20

his liver enzymes are now off the charts

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:04 | 4973746 pods
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Stop exciting me, it moved.


Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:39 | 4973945 Colonel Klink
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Hopefully he has the same thing as my tomato plants, they yellow, then wither and die.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:04 | 4973724 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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You're an idiot, Cosmos. No offense.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 13:03 | 4973826 COSMOS
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Takes one to know one, in your case I can tell from the avatar that there are two idiots passing judgment.  Hey like father like son lol....Magnus Idiot and Mini Idiot

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:05 | 4973741 Kirk2NCC1701
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I got this message several times today: "Site off-line. The site is currently not available due to technical problems. Please try again later. Thank you for your understanding."

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:12 | 4973804 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes, I have had lots of trouble, on-and-off for almost a whole day.  Last night was even worse until about midnight (ET) or so.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:15 | 4973819 knukles
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Denial of service attacks...
This is not the King's Crier and must be silenced

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:55 | 4974052 disabledvet
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Had a dead rabbit in the cellar. Should I be worried?

In the meantime "our words are failing to match the reality on the ground." So we find ourselves agreeing with what is happening...even when we are "dictating" phantom acts.

Usually pretty innocuous...but if there is a shot at Kiev...are we forced to change our pronouncements so we can reflect the fact that we have no responsibility in any matter whatsoever?

We are employing a sanctions regime. Yet we are not changing facts on the ground. Now new facts are being made (Gaza)...yet those have no sanction?

Certainly seems a lot more expensive (in human terms) than Russia taking Crimea.

Maybe there is simply an inability to grasp reality here..something beyond failing to act.

Hard to tell. There have been many stories of a Commander in Chief who really doesn't care all that much about the job and "thinks it's stupid."

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 13:30 | 4974272 Chief KnocAHoma
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Valerie Jarrett (Sitting in the den of the Obama’s Hamptons vacation home.) – Mr. President could you quit putting on the carpet for a minute and focus?

Obama (Glancing up with a look of scorn.) – Why are you always so serious Valerie? Relax… we’re on vacation.

Jarrett – But Mr. President I think we need to address a few issues.

Obama – Like what? (He tries to give a putt some body English.)

Jarrett – Well let’s see… there is the plane the Russians just blew from the sky, Israel is moving into Gaza, the border crisis, Obama care is collapsing, Issa and Goudy are closing the noose on the IRS scandal, Benghazi, the VA is a disaster….

Obama (Interrupting) – Okay… okay… I get it, the shit is piling up. What do you recommend?

Jarrett – We need to either solve at least one of the issues, or at very least change the subject.

Obama (With a puzzled look.) – Solve?  What is that?

Jarrett – Yeah it might be easier to just change the subject.

Obama (Looks up from his putting to admire himself in a mirror.) – I got it! Can you rent those columns we used back in 2008 in Denver? We could set them up on the beach and I’ll do a speech.

Jarrett – I think this may require more than a speech.


Obama (Exasperated) – Okay… okay… I’ll do two speeches.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:03 | 4973745 barre-de-rire
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feel free to GTFO that will free some BW for others, fucker.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:57 | 4973695 pods
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If you don't have the proof, STFU Chalky.

God, I can accept that 90% of 'mercans think with their heart (oxymoron I know) but Sweet Jesus do we all have to be a part of the reality show USSA?

Oh by the way, since you are a proven liar, most thinking people are not going to accept any poof (Cartman) that you may provide.

So that leaves STFU.


Fri, 07/18/2014 - 13:29 | 4974266 NemoDeNovo
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ROFLMAO -- Cartman


BO: "You will RESPECT my Authoritie"



Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:37 | 4973947 JR
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If this were a case to be tried in a court of law, WordSmith, we would just be beginning the discovery portion: facts are coming in, lies are coming in, and now at least one head of state (Obama) is attempting to galvanize world opinion without providing any evidence.

These facts in your report bear consideration:

"The aircraft flying at the altitude of more than 10 thousand meters might be hit only with weapons like S-300 or Buk. The militias don’t have such weapons, and cannot afford them as it was acknowledged even by the Ukrainian Defense minister Valery Galetey in a statement on another issue two days before the Flight MH-17 tragedy:

“…a “powerful weapon” must have been used to down the plane flying at 6,500 meters, an altitude the shoulder-fired missiles used by the separatists can’t reach.”

"The Russian military expert Igor Korotchenko argues that the catastrophe in Donetsk was most likely caused by the incompetence and non-professionalism of the Ukrainian operators of the Buk systems during its testing after the battery was deployed in the new location. He said that the Ukrainian antiaircraft unit did not have any kind of proper training for the last 23 years since the collapse of Soviet Union..."

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:06 | 4973705 COSMOS
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He got caught in a sandtrap that is why he was late.

By the way I hear they now serve Nuland's brand cookies on international flights.  You will never fell hungry again after having just one.....

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 18:00 | 4975516 StychoKiller
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Hmm, probably too much C4 in the recipe...

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:16 | 4973817 Emergency Ward
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After 10 minutes the spineless stenographers of the media should show some backbone and walk out en masse.  I guess they are afraid the exit doors might be blocked by the SS.

"We're sorry, but no one leaves until The President is finished.  For Security Reasons."

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:57 | 4973687 Serfs Up
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Ha ha!

Obama offers the "services" of the NTSB.

Well, after the bang-up job they did with TWA 800, he might as well have said "we can help Kiev come up with any scenario they please!"


Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:02 | 4973733 pods
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The NTSB probably has a non-published report about TWA 800 that they can find and replace "US missile" with "Russian Missile" and whamo!



Fri, 07/18/2014 - 13:18 | 4974190 hedgeless_horseman
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+1 to Pods and SerfsUp

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:57 | 4973697 COSMOS
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Hey Barry, I thought the CIA, FBI, NATO, NSA, State Dept, DOD, Blackwater, were already on the ground in Ukraine, what you gonna send more acronyms???  I'm confused.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:06 | 4973757 Emergency Ward
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They are lacking the FDA, DFG and OSHA.  The EPA, the FTC and the FCC.  Overtime and per diem for the whole bunch.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:19 | 4973839 knukles
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FCC is necessary to increase bandwidth so the SEC Enforcement Division can help, watching midget tranny porn all day

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:06 | 4973770 Kirk2NCC1701
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"When all else fails..." the best defense is a good offense.

It deflects and redirects the direction of thought elsewhere.  Classic lawyer and PR tricks.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:22 | 4973857 schatzi
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Video clip doing the rounds showing the BUK minus 2 missiles being transported back(?) into Russia on a truck. Gee, I wonder why? The most simplest explanations are usually the most accurate. Trigger happy numpties without proper training, but with the right equipment, blow up the wrong plane by accident. Russia and friends in full damage control mode. Can't blame them, I'd do the same. I'm sure Putin is fuming and wants some heads to roll.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 13:20 | 4974209 hedgeless_horseman
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So weak...pitiful. I demand better .gov trolling for my tax dollar.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 16:26 | 4975212 schatzi
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I believe the difference between you and me is, that I try not to have any preconceived notions.


I don't see either side in the Ukraine conflict as being right or wrong. I've approached this incident with as neutral a stance as I could. Arguments based on cui bono - as the Russian side loves to use, are pointless as it prevents any factual discussion or search for evidence. Then you have those harebrained conspiracies with Putin being targeted, or a CIA setup. Etc. This place is a tinfoil hatters gathering for confirmation and support. Thinking thoughtfully and independently, means not believing every shit MSM serve you, but neither does it mean seeking confirmation of opinion in selective groups.


Sometimes shit happens, and what I've been able to gather on reports around the world, point to a rebel used BUK fuck-up. The rebels are the only side in this conflict that have used SAMs and which has a high military value and purpose for them. It's probably not even a Russian delivery but instead was found in one of those captured eastern Ukrainian airbases. Since Russia feels implicated, they're trying to focus the blame on Kiev. Do I think less of the rebels because of that? No, because I don't believe there was any intent. Well, maybe to some degree negative, because (if true), they used a highly destructive weapon without due diligence (if that is even possible in warfare).


Apart from that, Putin thinks the West is weak and he can fuck about as he pleases. Not wrong, but a dangerous assessment. The Krim worked to plan, the eastern Ukraine not so. Our western leaders are weak, but every player has a breaking point. Putin is overegging his agenda which is why I view him as highly dangerous. That Russia gives him that much support also confirms how far away from European values they are. Be it militaristic expansion, homosexuality, freedom of expression and so forth. Having the support at home doesn't mean he's right or can operate as he pleases. If he isolates his country even further, he will cause severe economic damage, despite ZeroH. rallying calls. Then his domestic support may fare differently.


Maybe another difference between you and me is that I can happily live with a negative ZH valuation, if it reflects my honest opinion.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:57 | 4973690 bigrooster
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Sending the FBI right next to the Russian border.  Gee I am sure that nothing could go wrong with that idea.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 13:11 | 4974162 COSMOS
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Isn't that the plan all along.  We now have USA military on the ground in East Ukraine for years doing an 'investigation' with immunity from being attacked

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:04 | 4973752 thunderchief
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A good metric for a false flag is how fast one side chooses to frame the argument.

May I introduce to you B.H Santaro and his talking heads, the US Press Corp.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:49 | 4973633 robochess
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over/under on time? Who can possibly care what the fuck he says? Who?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:49 | 4973634 robochess
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over/under on time? Who can possibly care what the fuck he says? Who?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:49 | 4973635 Gringo Viejo
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Neo-Con Slam Dance.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:49 | 4973636 rguptatx
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Scheduled for 1130 EDT, however teleprompter is having issues retaining the programming - it is growing its nose - hence the delay.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:14 | 4973822 Cruel Aid
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Screwing with rush guaranteed

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:50 | 4973637 sunnydays
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Funny how the blame was Russia but there seems to be backtracking as the finger is pointing the other way

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:51 | 4973646 computer-america
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Hey ZERO HEDGE why do the website goes offline sometime?

You better "support OBAMA" and the NSA will not bother with you (LOL).

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:52 | 4973656 buzzsaw99
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cost cutting with a cheaper host methinks

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:52 | 4973648 vyeung
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Obozo is going full retard. His masters have told him, dun fark around anymore we need this war and we need it now, even if it means total destruction. Farking insane people live in DC/Langley.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:52 | 4973654 optimator
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Once the insiders fuel up on equities he'll speak.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:36 | 4973943 optimator
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Oh, and sell in early afternoon.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:54 | 4973660 alexcojones
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Stay on Cue POTUS

Mention the "Box Cutters" and "Osama bin Laden" and how they hate us for "Our Freedoms."

Oh Wait, that was the last FALSE FLAG FUCKERS.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:55 | 4973665 stant
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Takes longer for the meds to kick in each trip to the teleprompter

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:00 | 4973721 Utah_Get_Me_2
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What do you reckon Barry's favorite recreational drug is?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:08 | 4973776 stant
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What Eva he can snort off of dr love,ie Reggie love

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:14 | 4973820 DoChenRollingBearing
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That's easy: krokodil !!



Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:30 | 4973912 pods
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Why that would be "crack"

As in, ass crack and ball sack.


Fri, 07/18/2014 - 14:33 | 4974647 Moustache Rides
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amyl nitrate...   lmao

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:54 | 4973666 vyeung
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yes, its all orchestrated by the US government and Langley. There are no real leaders in Ukraine except criminals. Full retard BS from the liar in charge.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:05 | 4973755 CrashisOptimistic
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It's orchestrated by Mother Nature.

She made the geology what it is.

They have the oil and they have the gas.  Winter is coming.  GAZPROM is not going to float Ukraine free gas.  They have to prepay and they can't and the EU doesn't want to basically send money to its enemy, and that's what has to happen.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:56 | 4973667 q99x2
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Somebody call the police. The TOTUS has gone full retard.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:02 | 4973672 JustObserving
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Obama always speaks the truth:

Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August.

How many women and children and wedding parties have you droned lately, Mr Nobel Prize Winner?


Seymour Hersh on death of Osama bin Laden: ‘It’s one big lie, not one word of it is true’

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:55 | 4973678 bigrooster
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"Here is what must happen now."  Fuck you, you arrogant asshole!

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:56 | 4973685 1stepcloser
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"Here is what must happen now."  I'm going to take two weeks off, then quit!  

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:57 | 4973694 tgmur10
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We didnt get Syria but.......

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:58 | 4973698 1stepcloser
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has the teleprompter begun to skip yet? 

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:58 | 4973700 goldhedge
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Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:58 | 4973701 Utah_Get_Me_2
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The misinformation is coming directly out of your lying mouth you fucking traitor. I can't take this shit anymore.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:59 | 4973703 vyeung
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FBI and national safety board are both fascist./Nazi outfits now. The fact is you put a coup government in power. So its true MO comes. Everything is Russia's fault....hahahahahahaha


He's going full retard for sure.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 11:59 | 4973706 tgmur10
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Ok I feel better now, they are going to make sure the "Truth" gets out....  Bahwahhhhhh

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:00 | 4973713 souljaboy
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"Truth" will be the new buzzword over the next few weeks. We'll hear it until we want to vomit.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:05 | 4973758 souljaboy
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Told you.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:00 | 4973709 yrad
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I would like to let the NSA know that I am not resisting assimilation by visiting ZH's Website. I am in compliance. I love Obama and all he stands for. Bestest POTUS ever. Thank you, NSA, for providing much needed security to of us weak-minded Amerikans.

God Bless the NSA! Obama! Amerika! that order

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:07 | 4973774 Ginsengbull
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He really needs a new hairdo.


Fro, corn rows, dreadlocks...


He just looks so 2008.


Awful static for someone who likes change.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:00 | 4973711 goldhedge
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Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:01 | 4973714 Quinvarius
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The terrorists can not be allowed to tunnel in.  they must be shipped in via tax payer paid for bus to stay at resorts.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:01 | 4973716 NoWayJose
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Putin could give this same speech for Syria...

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:00 | 4973717 jubber
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Why is it Russia's fault that Ukrainian ATC sent the aircraft over the epicentre of fighting?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:01 | 4973719 medium giraffe
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Dear Mr President,

I am unable to form my own opinions due to a lack of knowledge or imagination.  I have not bothered to train my mind to question established norms, and am too lazy to investigate, or even read very much at all.  Rather than take responsibility for my own education in such matters, I would prefer to indulge myself in mindless and unproductive entertainment whilst blaming external factors, such as the education system, for my own shortfalls.  I am very much hoping that you will be able to tell me what I should be thinking, and who I should blame, so that I might regurgitate these opinions if the discussion comes up in a social setting (rather than risk appearing stupid and unknowledgable).  I admit though, outside of having a basic opinion (which I hope to gain from you), I don't really give a shit as I don't see how any of this effects me.

Much obliged.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 14:43 | 4974692 Moustache Rides
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I want to take what you just wrote and print out copies and hand them out to my entire family.  It's mind blowing seeing fairly intelligent ppl (my family) in such a stupor regarding all geo-political events.


Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:00 | 4973720 vyeung
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farking hypocritical mofo. Farking nation of Israel is illegal. They continue to kill children, women and innocents with little to no defense.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:01 | 4973728 samsara
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Did someone smuggle a Pressure Cooker on the plane?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:01 | 4973729 Yen Cross
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    Someone please do Cliff's Notes for this fucking maroon... I can't stand the agony of listening to der her, dis der her dat anymoar!

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:02 | 4973734 Son of Captain Nemo
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Another major sell out?

When I saw this one I asked myslef first what kind of file is the NSA keeping on this guy, or did he get a pay raise that he just "couldn't refulse"?

Too surreal for words.  But then again anybody who works for FOX is already in question!
Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:03 | 4973737 vyeung
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Justice and Truth!!!! Bullocks.......

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:03 | 4973738 observer007
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MH17 shot down by Ukraine



Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:02 | 4973740 NoWayJose
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You can guess what will happen - the 'proof' will show that Western Ukraine shot down the airplane, but Obama will dismiss it as 'misinformation' and that it is not 'credible' -- and will still blame Russia.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:04 | 4973747 vyeung
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Investigation like 911 which was the biggest cover up in US history. Do people still believe the garbage that comes from DC??????

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:12 | 4973749 rwe2late
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Thank goodness,


after all the lies the president of peace has told about

Iran, Iraq, Libya, Ossetia, Syria, Vietnam, Afghanistan, the Ukraine coup, the NSA, the US economy, drones, torture, and so much more ...

he is going to come clean and tell us the truth about MH-17 !

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:04 | 4973754 vyeung
vyeung's picture guys are the biggest purveyors of such activity. Obozo you are really full of SHIT!

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:05 | 4973760 Cattender
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is Obumba Speaking yet?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:06 | 4973762 barre-de-rire
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can someone shoot this fucking nigger


ffs this monkey gonna let a nuke strike comes within months with his attitude in ukraine.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:08 | 4973773 Cattender
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Duuuude... you cannot say the "N" Word! OMFG...

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:14 | 4973814 barre-de-rire
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i dont give a fuck,  you puritan american,  no sex, no bla bla, no FUCK word, but 99% of porn on the web comes from usa... so please... not to me.


i say what i want to say, fuck nsa, wanna come drnk coffee in france ? FUCK YOU.


your president is a fucking nigger, he is dangerous, he just said  problem will not stay containd in ukraine but will  grow outside borderline ??? FFS WHAT THE FUCK USA DO IN UKRAINE ! NOT YOUR FUCKING LAND, GTFO

europ gaz is NONE OF UR BUSINESS, stop  messing arround erveywhere you land your CIA GROUP !


this is insanity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:24 | 4973878 knukles
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And there you have it, my friends.
A European point of view unfiltered through the US MSM.


excuse me, but I seem to have lost the address of Tavistock...  can you point me in the right direction?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:07 | 4973769 vyeung
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ooooooo - china, russia and even germany now in the vex of evil. You are farked you destroyer of nations.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:09 | 4973782 magpie
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"I vil have you sanctioned ! Schultz ! Where are you ?"

(note to self, does the USA still have monocle manufacturers)

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:07 | 4973771 Watts_D_Matter
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Ok Obomb-a...let me get this straight...

Russia should not "undermine" the Ukraine government....But it's Ok for the US to "undermine" Syria, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, and Afghanistan"....


Ok I got it....

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:15 | 4973823 Bastiat
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. . .and Ukraine of course.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:07 | 4973772 pashley1411
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Maybe someone could do us all a favor and clip a copy of "How to Make Friends and Influence People" to a place our Angry-Narcissist-In-Chief will read it.   

His teleprompter, or maybe his golf scorecard.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:08 | 4973778 vyeung
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he really thinks all the people are RETARDS!!!!!! What a MOFO.

Ukraine has BUK SAMS you farking moron!

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:09 | 4973781 QQQBall
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he pronounces "sophisticated" in an odd way

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:09 | 4973783 SoDamnMad
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Hey, we blew away 4 kids on the beach and we want to blow away the rest of the country. Any suggestions?

Sir. We could pull a false flag.

Sounds good. Ideas please.

Sir, we could do something big in Ukraine. Like down an civilian airplane and blame it on the separatists.

Good. How do we do that?

Divert a plane over the war zone and bring it down. There's lots of triple A missiles floating around to blame. Lots of ways to bring it down.  Not an aircraft from a big European country but from Asian carrier.

Sounds good. Impliment immediately before we move on Gaza. Dismissed


Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:14 | 4973816 robochess
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are you insane or just a fool?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:20 | 4973847 gcjohns1971
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I don't discount it, necessarily.


But don't you think he would have been ready to exploit it, rather than making a few lame accusations followed by an even lamer joke?


Doesn't it kind of beggar the imagination to imagine they could coordinate the shoot-down, but not the propaganda campaign that would necessarily need to follow it?

I'm just saying, if someone were playing 'Doctor Evil' here I would expect them to make the  ransom call for $1M immediately after... not successfully pull off the heist and then make three or four lame attempts at the ransom note.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 13:03 | 4974105 Grumbleduke
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Now, why would they do that?

They didn't bother the last 50 to 100 times, why start now? This is BS.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:08 | 4973784 vyeung
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You see the trend of where this MO is heading. Everything is Russia fault.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:10 | 4973787 1stepcloser
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the more and more this "world" story goes along...the more and more it resembles the star wars plot

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:09 | 4973790 SheepDog-One
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We've got the separatists and the rebels and the 'not-sures' and whatever....all just nonsense to me.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:10 | 4973791 vyeung
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now his true MO appears. Stop rebels entering Ukraine.

You are dame right he's controlled. Much more so than you RETARD in DC.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:10 | 4973792 tony wilson
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a massage from der presdunt

bee in know doubt

let me be candid and clear

i dontes needs dis shit.

dis shit taken up cock and crack smokin and golf swingin time.

putin must stop creating reasons for me too have another scripted teleprompt false flag event.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:25 | 4973879 magpie
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I think Obama should just send specs to Russian video game here and there...more plane bits. Excellent. Should keep me on the links for another week.

Thanks Volodja.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:10 | 4973794 timeless21
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Uh oh..

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:11 | 4973800 thunderchief
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The Russians are being peppered with propaganda and lies the never could had dreamed up.

I can't imagine what they must be saying behind closed doors.

I suppose something similar to what went down about 70 years ago.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:14 | 4973821 gcjohns1971
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Governments being peppered with lies is the normal state of affairs.  Always has been.

They'd go into withdrawal if they stopped lying about each other.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:12 | 4973802 Kaiser Sousa
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i said a while back...
as sharp as vlad is, he should have stomped out those Kiev assholes in the very beginning...
too much time has been given to the western sociopaths to concoct another crisis...
the more time you give them, the more shit you invite.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:48 | 4973995 SheepDog-One
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Exactly, I'm quite surprised Vlad gave them so much time and room to flip the script and re-write it.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:12 | 4973805 tony wilson
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any jews on board mr pres

how much warning and fore knowledge did day have.

if any yids where killed does that make this a hollow caust

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:14 | 4973808 Tachyon5321
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The look on Obama face shows he would like to be out playing golf.... 


All of the problems of the little people are meaningless to this man.



Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:22 | 4973854 roadhazard
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So would I but it's raining. And give me the name of the last Prez that, "cared for the little people".

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:14 | 4973812 vyeung
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Malaysian government which you are blackmailing!!! MOFO

Sanctions - lets see how your fascist/nazi plot go.

World economy is now Russia's fault too, not Wall St. This is complete mother fucking garbage. Get this full RETARD off the farking stage.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:17 | 4973830 JR
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A New Delhi-based think tank conducted a study in 2012 that assessed India's strategic partnerships with six countries and found out that the Russia-India partnership comes on top of the scale.

IOW, Malaysia is a strong strategic partner of Russia. Why, then, would Russia or the separatists shoot down a Malaysian passenger plane?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:15 | 4973815 TabakLover
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....and in the background, now almost inaudible........the rumble of Israeli tanks.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:15 | 4973824 demoses
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At least you guys at ZH are returning my hope in the American public. I just did a horrible mistake and took a look at the comments on CNN. Even if the system falls I'm afraid you guys will be one of the first ones they will come after. I'm just not sure what do you think - is the majority in USA CNN crowd like or not?

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:16 | 4973829 buzzsaw99
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Boon: [Niedermyer is abusing Flounder in ROTC] Vicious mother, isn't he?

Otter: He can't do that to our pledges!

Boon: Only we can do that to our pledges.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:17 | 4973832 Spastica Rex
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Only one American killed - WHEW!

Now we don't have to go bomb a backward country if we don't feel like it, we can just increase cavity searches at airports.

God Bless the USA!

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:18 | 4973833 GooseShtepping Moron
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So, this was pretty much a nothing-burger, no? I didn't catch most of the live feed, but I read through all the comments and it doesn't appear as if anything significant was said.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:21 | 4973856 barre-de-rire
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just tasting lying soup & addin some salt  here & there, he discovered throwing salt on fire make flames blue, remembering while he's messing in ukraine, ... the blue flame.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:23 | 4973868 magpie
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blue ? but this was about oranje, the netherlands. they won the world cup.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:19 | 4973842 Billy Sol Estes
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who the fuck cares

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:22 | 4973860 magpie
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Russia needs to ship the body parts and passports (yes, the pristine and cancelled ones) to a neutral country where the always truthful MSM can inspect them.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:22 | 4973863 TeaParterade
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I think its disgusting and dispicable zero hedge's coverage of this story. Even if ukraine deverted the flight over a war zone in a deliberate fasion , and there is no evidence to show that other than the samegroup ofpeople who believe we didn't land on the moon, the westa nd ukraine did not murder 300 people.  The people who firedthe missle and theindividuals who providedthe missle did.

Zero hedge's staff should go live in China and russia for a for months like i have and try to write whatever they want on the internet, you will be behind bars in a matter of months. a bunch of spoiled children who take free speech for granted.


its disgusting.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:45 | 4973949 COSMOS
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We are slipping and its disgusting dude.  Patriot act that walks all over the Constitution is pretty disgusting too.

Listen dude, we had once this great document called the Constitution of the USA and its pretty much been undermined as we slip into an authoritarian kleptocracy.  What good is freedom of speech when the powers that be have complete control of large media organizations and freedom of speech can only be practiced in fringe spaces on the internet, just like in the little 10 yard by 10 yard constitutional zones in the Bundy Affair, set up by the Bureau of Land Management.  Yep that is what we have become, in one of the world's largest countries you are marginalized to a few yards by a few yards constitutional zone while red dot gunsights dance around all your vital areas, and attack dogs baying at pregnant women.

Take a hike you Tea bag scum you are not better than the rest.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:41 | 4973962 vyeung
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free speech and liberty was not introduced by these criminals in DC/Langley or the illegal coup government in Ukraine. Free speech was a part of the constitution which these fascist/nazis burned with the intorduction of the Patriot Act and unlimited banker bail-ins and too big to fail. Unless you know what you are talking about I would suggest you get an education first before typing garbage here.

Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:45 | 4973981 Tachyon5321
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Presient Barry must be so proud to have you as a faithful.


Fri, 07/18/2014 - 12:48 | 4973992 vyeung
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people here are not abusers. Your so called President has done nothing but promote coups, lies and deceit throughout the globe. Even its allies are sick and tired of the crap DC/Langley instigate. Even the great industrial power of Germany is sick and tired of this and shifting east as you cannot do good business with bad people (DC/Langley/GCHQ/Israel/Cabal, not the private American business that are not controlled by the fascists). Writing is on the wall if you care to look. Evidence in plain sight but you are too lazy arse to review. Stop watching CNN/Bloomberg/Reuters/CNBC/ABC etc. Same propaganda agenda/machine.

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