Death Toll Hits 330 As Israel Uncovers 13 Tunnels, Faces "Suicide Donkeys"

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With large anti-Israel protests in London, Paris, Brussels, and Madrid, the social media PR blitzkrieg continues between the IDF and Hamas. Palestinian officials claim over 100 civilian deaths in the last 48 hours (and over 330 since Operation Protective Edge began). Israel continues to reference the ongoing bombardment of rockets from Gaza (militants in Gaza have launched 1,663 rockets...The IDF has struck "2,300 terror targets" in Gaza). As LA Times reports, fighting continued above and below ground Saturday as Israeli soldiers have located dozens of shafts dug under homes and green houses leading to 13 tunnels. CNN reports local witnesses saying very 30 seconds to a minute a shell comes down in or around Beit Lahya. Perhaps most fascinating is The IDF claims that their forces have been attacked by explosive-laden "suicide donkeys."


Anti-Israel protests are spreading...

As the violence and death count rises...

Israel’s military continued to pound the Gaza Strip with heavy shelling on Saturday, calling on more civilians to leave their homes on the second day of its expanding ground operation against rocket launchers and cross-border tunnels while top diplomats were set to converge on the region to pursue a cease-fire.


Aircraft and artillery fire struck rocket-launchers, cars and houses throughout the coastal enclave. One strike killed five family members in their Beit Hanoun home, pushing the death toll above 330, according to Palestinian officials.


Fighting between Israeli troops and Hamas and other militants continued above and below ground Saturday. Overnight, around 20 militants were killed after engaging forces with gunfire and grenades as Israeli soldiers continued to comb Gaza for tunnels that Israel views as a strategic threat.


The Israeli military has reportedly located dozens of shafts dug under homes and green houses leading to 13 tunnels and intends to blow them up in coming days. At least three Israeli soldiers were injured Thursday in a battle with heavily armed militants who used one such tunnel to enter Israel from the central Gaza Strip with plans to attack a nearby community, a military official said.

The strikes so far... (via CNN)

Since Operation Protective Edge began, militants in Gaza have launched 1,663 rockets, the IDF said in a statement Saturday. Israeli rocket defense system Iron Dome has intercepted 346 of them.


The IDF has struck "2,300 terror targets" in Gaza, the statement said. In its recently launched ground operations, the IDF targeted 95 rocket launching sites and 13 tunnels.

CNN offers some local perspective...

In his Gaza home, Ramez al-Madhoun listens Saturday to the thunder of Israeli tank shells battering the neighborhood -- some a little less than a mile away, some closer.


A few miles south of him, Gazan militants' rockets stream into the sky -- about seven in 15 minutes -- toward Israel.


The tanks are gunning for tunnels leading into Israel and the Gazan attack squads that use them.


Al-Madhoun says he feels safer during Israeli airstrikes.


"If it was an airstrike, it would be more of a precision strike, but the tanks shells are more dangerous, they are destroying more than the airstrikes," he says.


Every 30 seconds to a minute a shell comes down in or around Beit Lahya. The local imam has told residents to stay home and pray, because the shelling has made it to dangerous to go outside, al-Madhoun says.

Hamas is using alternate tactics...

According to the IDF, ground forces operating in Gaza Strip were attacked by an explosives-laden donkey


The latest such incident happened on Friday in the Rafah area, the IDF reported Saturday. 


A donkey suspiciously began to approach forces. The Forces Engaged the Donkey and it Exploded at A Safe Distance, whereas no Injuries Were Sustained by the IDF as A result, " the Israeli Report Said.


"Sending an animal to ITS Death to serve Terrorist Purposes May SEEM Shocking, but Certainly Last night was not the first time Palestinian Terrorists Adopted this despicable Tactic," the IDF Said. 


Israel is urging civilians to evacuate...


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Which leaves just one question... Do the donkeys go to heaven with 72 virgins?

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Sat, 07/19/2014 - 12:05 | 4977009 1stepcloser
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now if only our democrats in congress will take a hint

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 12:08 | 4977018 The Phu
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Now that's an ass worth blowing up

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 12:11 | 4977023 1stepcloser
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I'm sure they would love to suicide themselves for AIPAC

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 12:18 | 4977040 SafelyGraze
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palestinians? semitic? but that means ..


Sat, 07/19/2014 - 12:33 | 4977078 Publicus
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Israel is just hastening ISIS's replacement of Hamas. ISIS is actually capable of going onto the offensive and expand their terrotorial holding into Israel. Idiots.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 12:48 | 4977146 john39
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Compliments of david dees:

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 13:01 | 4977199 Manthong
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Now I understand..

It’s 72 virgin donkeys for every Hamas member who goes to paradise.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 13:24 | 4977285 chumbawamba
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Yeah, and when an Israeli dies they go to heaven and get your mother.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 13:30 | 4977309 COSMOS
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Lets all Chime in with Lame, lame, lame, wame, wame wombat

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 13:38 | 4977339 chumbawamba
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For the Israeli soldiers that die from natural causes they get COSMOS.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 13:46 | 4977372 El Vaquero
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IED = Improvised Explosive Donkey

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 13:48 | 4977380 BellyBrain
Sat, 07/19/2014 - 14:04 | 4977418 Zafod
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Belly, in your link what makes land count as "Palestinian" on the left map?

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 14:29 | 4977480 BellyBrain
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*shrug* I suppose most people who have lived on a land for FIFTEEN HUNDRED YEARS tend to think of it as "theirs."  Crazy, I know...good thing the psychopathic Zionists are there to bomb some sense into them.

Lest we forget, this is what "The Jewish State" *really* means:

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 14:36 | 4977508 DoChenRollingBearing
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Don't you all just love the MidEast threads?  

More fun than a barrel of jackasses!

Bring your body armor, your AK (or AR) and at least 10 magazines before venturing in to THIS Fight Club.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 14:43 | 4977536 Pool Shark
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"Suicide Donkeys?"

Unless the donkeys specifically volunteered for the missions, it wouldn't be 'suicide.'

Maybe the term "mule" would be a bit more appropriate...


Sat, 07/19/2014 - 14:53 | 4977555 Manthong
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“when an Israeli dies they go to heaven and..”

To my recollection, my deceased mother never went for Israelis.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 15:22 | 4977635 Stackers
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and now where is PETA ?

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 15:55 | 4977731 chumbawamba
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Aww, you had to go pull the deceased mother card, didn't you?  zionists and their sympathizers get no mercy, sorry.


Sat, 07/19/2014 - 16:02 | 4977745 remain calm
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Did anyone else think that Jackass was related to Obama?

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 18:55 | 4978022 mjcOH1
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"Yeah, and when an Israeli dies they go to heaven and get your mother. ..Aww, you had to go pull the deceased mother card, didn't you? zionists and their sympathizers get no mercy, sorry. I am Chumbawamba"

Seems fair. All dogs go to heaven and get your mom.

I am not chumbawaba...but with 4 more beers and a lobotomy I could make a reasonable impersonation.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 21:35 | 4978673 chumbawamba
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How ironic.  When your mom gets to heaven she gets me.

See you in hell, my friend.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 16:26 | 4977812 sessinpo
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BellyBrain   *shrug* I suppose most people who have lived on a land for FIFTEEN HUNDRED YEARS tend to think of it as "theirs."


Thus since Europeans have been in the US less then that 1500 years, I think you owe some reparations or at least give back anything you own.

To get you out of your liberal mind, it's not about who is was there first, but who can defend it. If you bought property, it does not matter your rights. If someone can take it from you without reprocussions, they will. Anti semetics are liberal wannabies.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 17:04 | 4977909 Sean7k
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But Israel was created by the UN, given to the zionists by Britain. Worse, if that is your argument, then the US is entitled to take anything it can, same with Russia, China or Europe. Just one big happy massacre, right? 

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 17:12 | 4977929 RichardP
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Yup.  See History.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 20:48 | 4978479 BellyBrain
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(A zionist psychopath wrote:) "Thus since Europeans have been in the US less then that 1500 years, I think you owe some reparations or at least give back anything you own.

To get you out of your liberal mind, it's not about who is was there first, but who can defend it. If you bought property, it does not matter your rights. If someone can take it from you without reprocussions, they will. Anti semetics are liberal wannabies."

Well, you are correct that the USGOV does indeed owe massive reparations to the Native Americans.  However, the rest of your statements reveal the same type of diseased, psychopathic mind that the conquerors of America share with the Zionist Jews. 

Forget about morality or even humanity.  As long as you can kill/rape/torture/murder/rape/infanticide/enslave/slaughter/rape/steal/maim/obliterate etc and get away with it because others are too weak/fearful to stop you, then it's A-OK. Nothing wrong with it at all, since there are no immediate repercussions, right?


It will always be wrong for Israel to displace/kill/etc the native Palistenians, just like it was wrong for Europeans to slaughter the Native Americans and to enslave Africans.  The Zionist fairy tale "right of return" is pure bullshit, and you know it. 

Israel does not have the ability to commit their crimes on their own "without repercussions" which is why it relies on the USGOV to be their bitches, funneling them billions of dollars in cash and weapons.  Israel would not exist without the USGOV.  They are both psychopathic governmental paratners in crime. 

Call me liberal all you want, I could care less because the label doesn't apply.  Call me "anti-semitic" all you want, because the label does not apply, especially since Khazarian Jews aren't even semetic, Palestinians are semetic.  I am actually "pro-semitic" and generally opposed to psychopathic thought viruses like Zionism.  

The world can see through your bullshit, especially those of us who aren't fooled by partisanship. 


Sat, 07/19/2014 - 17:11 | 4977923 eurogold
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+1 000 000   for BellyBrain !

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 20:23 | 4978477 BellyBrain
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I only regret that I have but one like to give.  :-)

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 14:19 | 4977458 tradingdaze
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You're getting me excited.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 15:39 | 4977672 The Big Ching-aso
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Even in war this is in excess IMHO. Btw I think someone already wrote a song about this a long time ago IIRC.

Suicide Blond Donkey

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 12:58 | 4977183 Rhal
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Maybe. But considering that this started with ISIS killing three Israeli boys, then Israel blaming Hamas, I'm thinking Israel is using ISIS as an excuse to clean out Gaza.

Personaly I think Israel need new leadership as bad as the rest of us. I would not accept the city next door sending 1700 rockets my way, but still the way Netenyahu is using this smells of false-flag. 

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 12:59 | 4977191 Canucklehead
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ISIS has done "real" well in Syria. The people there just love them. Muslims, why can't the good ones ever win?

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 13:33 | 4977322 john39
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because the the U.S. and Europe ensure that the fanatics on the zio payroll stay well paid, and well armed.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 14:29 | 4977493 Duffy Duck
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ISIS is the third wave of us/saudi/Turkish and now Israeli armed, funded, and tasked Satanist foreign merchandise groups launched against Syria. THE SAAS and apparently some of the native, previously anti-Assad militias have been pummeling ISIS, which caused many to flee and regroup in Iraq.

Funny, you'd think they'd want to defend their Sunni brethren in Gaza by opening a second or 3rd front... but ISIS is, pretty obviously, a car driven by western intelligence agencies.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 17:57 | 4978041 eurogold
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Duffy, I like that !

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 16:10 | 4977765 Canucklehead
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Muslims, the fault always lies with somebody else.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 14:18 | 4977455 Duffy Duck
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You don't think ISIS is a CIA and/or MOSSAD proxy, perhaps?

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 15:14 | 4977606 Sirius Wonderblast
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Majority of jews today are Ashkenazan, not sons of Shem.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 17:19 | 4977941 RichardP
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Just curious.  Do you have a DNA sample from Shem such that you could discover who his sons today actually are?  God promised Canaan (basically, Palestine) to Abraham and his seed.  Even if you ignore Ishmael, there were twelve tribes descended from Abraham.  The Jews (those from the Tribe of Ju dah) are but one Tribe.  The land also was promised to 11 other Tribes.  Good luck in figuring out who those folks are (all those other folks can't possibly be Ashkenazan also, can they?).

The whole thing is a tad bit more comlicated than you make it out to be.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 18:42 | 4978182 Jumbotron
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Don't even bother explaining this to the joo haters.  Like their Muzzie heroes....they are insane and incapable of rational thought.  Always blaming the N.W.O. or the Jew for the state of their world and their personal fucked up life.

A world full of crybabies who are too chicken shit to do anything about it.  Like they even could.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 19:05 | 4978225 Seek_Truth
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RichardP- You are the one who is confused:

The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ.” – Galatians 3:16

The promise of being “chosen people” was never extended to anyone except through Jesus Christ.”

Not that most “Christians” ever take the time to study and realize this.

In other words, the “chosen” have never been “jews”, not a race, but only those who put their faith in Jesus Christ.

This opportunity exists for all, jew and gentile.


As far as your doubt regarding ancestry (whish is a moot point anyhow):

It has been well documented that only a small percentage of Jews are descended from Jacob, son of Isaac, son of Abraham. As Professor of Mediaeval Jewish History at Tel Aviv University, A. N. Poliak, in his book Khazaria writes that the facts demand “a new approach, both to the problem of the relations between the Khazar Jewry and other Jewish communities, and to the question of how far we can go in regarding this [Khazar] Jewry as the nucleus of the large Jewish settlement in Eastern Europe…The descendants of this settlement – those who stayed where they were, those who emigrated to the United States and to other countries, and those who went to Israel – constitute now the large majority of world Jewry.” The Khazars he refers to are not descended from Jacob, but rather are a Turkic Empire that converted to Judaism (in 740 A.D.) as their state religion.  

These “Ashkenazi Jews” now constitute the vast majority of Jews in the world today. As Arthur Koestler writes in his book, “The Thirteenth Tribe: The Khazar Empire and its Heritage” (available online here:  & here: ): “The Jews of our times fall into two main divisions: Sephardim and Ashkenazim. The Sephardim are descendants of the Jews who since antiquity had lived in Spain (in Hebrew Sepharod) until they were expelled at the end of the fifteenth century and settled in the countries bordering on the Mediterranean, the Balkans, and to a lesser extent in Western Europe. They spoke a Spanish-Hebrew dialect, Ladino, and preserved their own traditions and religious rites. In the 1960s, the number of Sephardim was estimated at 500,000. The Ashkenazim, at the same period, numbered about eleven million…For the sake of piquantry it should be mentioned that the Ashkenaz of the Bible refers to a people living somewhere in the vicinity of Mount Ararat and Armenia. The name occurs in Genesis 10:3 and 1 Chronicles 1:6, as one of the sons of Gomer, who was a son of Japheth. Ashkenaz is also a brother of Togarmah (and a nephew of Magog) whom the Khazars, according to King Joseph, claimed as their ancestor.”  According to the Bible, The sons of Noah were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Shem was the great- great- great- great- great- great- great- great- grandfather of Jacob, and Japheth was the Grandfather of Ashkenaz.  So, mathematically speaking, that amounts to 4.5% Sephardim, actual descendants of Jacob, verses 95.5% Ashkenazim, descendants of Gomer, son of Japheth, calling themselves Jews in modern times.

 “Mr. Benjamin Freedman, a Jewish industrialist born in New York, wrote in the Economic Council Letter published there of October 15 1947: “These Eastern European Jews have neither a racial nor a historic connection with Palestine. Their ancestors were not inhabitants of the Promised Land. They are the direct descendants of the people of the Khazar Kingdom. The Khazars were a non-Semitic, Turko-Mongolian tribe.” Mr. Freedman was challenged, unwisely, by a Zionist objector; he invited his challenger to go with him to the Jewish room of the New York Public Library. There they could together examine the Jewish Encyclopedia volume I pp. 1-12, and the published works of Graetz, Dubnow, Friedlander, Raisin and many other noted Jewish historians, which, as well as other non-Jewish authorities, “establish the fact beyond all possible doubt”.’ - Somewhere South of Suez (1950) pp349-350.”

“Many [modern-day Jews] of whom have clamored to go back [to Palestine] never had antecedents [physical ancestors] in that part of the world …. The overwhelming majority of Jews are descendants from the converts of Khazaria and elsewhere who adopted Judaism…. This view of the non-ethnicity of the largest portion of Jewry is sustained by such prominent anthropologists as Ripley, Weissenberg, Hertz, Boas, Pittard, Fishberg, Mead and others. . “  - Dr. Alfred M. Lilienthal

“Though many Jews are not of Semitic origin, we are the religious, spiritual, and national [but not genetic] descendants of those who first formed the early foundations of Judaism who were Semites”
- Rabbi Cyril A. Stanway in “Viewpoints,” Thursday, November 8, 1990, in the Sun-News (Las Cruces, New Mexico)

these Eastern European, Yiddish-speaking Jews who form the Zionist group practically in toto [almost entirely], have neither a geographic, historic nor ethnic connection with either the Jews [Israelite Judahites] of the Old Testament or the land known today as Palestine. “  - Jewish Dr. Benjamin H. Freedman, published by the National Economic Council, Inc. as “Council Letter No. 177 (October 15, 1947)

“Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.” -1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3

“Khazars, a non-Semitic, Asiatic, Mongolian tribal nation who emigrated into Eastern Europe about the first century, who were converted as an entire nation to Judaism in the seventh century by the expanding Russian nation which absorbed the entire Khazar population, and who account for the presence in Eastern Europe of the great numbers of Yiddish-speaking Jews in Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Galatia, Besserabia and Rumania.” – The Jewish Encyclopedia

 “In the year 740 A.D. the Khazars were officially converted to Judaism. A century later they were crushed by the incoming Slavic-speaking people and were scattered over central Europe where they were known as Jews.” - The American Peoples Encyclopedia, 1954 edition at 15-292

According to the standard Jewish Encyclopedia 96% of all the Jews known to the world today are descendents of the Khazar tribes of Russia, Eastern Europe and western Mongolia.

In 2012, a new study confirms theses facts- Eran Israel-Elhaik, of Johns Hopkins University, published his research here: which positively concludes that the majority of Jews, including those populating Israel, are not Sephardim, but rather, Ashkenazi.

So the majority of Jews are not descended from Jacob, the first Israelite. The minority that might be descended from Jacob are the offspring of marriages to non-Israelite proselytes to Judaism over hundreds of generations. The point is this- the “chosen race” is a myth, because it is not by the blood, or genotype of Jacob that the blessing of God is fulfilled. Nor is it by the Judaic religion, which is no longer practiced as handed down by God through Moses. Nor, of course, is it by the Hebrew language.

So, in whom is God’s promise to Abraham fulfilled?

As the Bible clearly states:“It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” In other words, it is not the natural children who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.” –Romans 9:6-8

Coming full circle:

The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ.” – Galatians 3:16

The promise of being “chosen people” was never extended to anyone except through Jesus Christ.

Do you now understand why your staements are erroneous?


Sat, 07/19/2014 - 19:37 | 4978351 Sean7k
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What a twisted interpretation. Seed has always referred to a collective progeny decendent from a patriarch, in this case, Abraham (and must include the children of Ismael as well). While your extensive recollection of jewry history is interesting and correct, it does nothing to support your argument. References to the New Testament may seem righteous to the christian but will fall on deaf jewish ears.

So, no I don't see why his statement is in error. I merely see an attempt at overreach by you- desperate to find inclusion.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 19:57 | 4978411 Erudite Redneck
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Acts 9:15 plus:

15 But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel. 16 For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name’s sake.”

17 And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus,[b] who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” 18 Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized.


Why would Jesus tell Ananias that Saul aka the Apostle Paul would be a choosen vessel to bear the name of Jesus to the children of Israel if they no longer mattered?  God is not done with Israel or his promises to Abraham and Israel.  Jesus returns to Jerusalem.  Why do some so called Christians want to margenlize the Jews or Israel?

Interesting thing about this story of Paul saved on the road to Damascus, Jesus told Ananias to go see Paul on Straight Street -- that street is still there in Damascus.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 20:15 | 4978451 Seek_Truth
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"Why would Jesus tell Ananias that Saul aka the Apostle Paul would be a choosen vessel to bear the name of Jesus to the children of Israel if they no longer mattered?"

Of course they matter- Jew and Gentile alike are able to be blessed as children of the promise- but ONLY after Jesus Christ, the Messiah, fulfilled the promise.

The only chosen ones are those that put their faith Jesus Christ, per Galatians 3:16:

The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ.

As it says, not to seeds, but seed- that seed was no noone except Jesus Christ.


Sat, 07/19/2014 - 21:09 | 4978605 zhandax
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Don't you just love people who can get into an argument over the syntax in a 400 year-old English translation of ancient Hebrew?

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 22:19 | 4978795 Seek_Truth
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Given the fact that there are dozens of high quality English inter linear versions of Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek, I fail to see the issue, unless one thinks they know what they are talking about without consulting these sources.

Your comment also presupposes that there are not commentors on ZH that have a background in ancient Hebrew, Greek, or Aramaic.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 23:07 | 4978915 zhandax
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I know their are plenty of available resources.  I have not heard one cited yet.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 23:51 | 4978984 Seek_Truth
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Why cite a resource unless necessary?

When commenting on websites, being as succinct as possible is vital.

Lengthy replies only when absolutely necessary.

If a challenge is raised that requires a citation, then one should be provided, but one shouldn't assume that in the initial comment.

ProTip: The US is sound bite nation.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 20:07 | 4978425 Seek_Truth
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Not my interpretation- the Apostle Paul wrote Galatians.

The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ.” – Galatians 3:16

So you are saying Paul (Previously Saul, a Pharisee, persecutor of Christians, taught in the finest Jewish schools of Gamaliel BEFORE he was converted to Christianity), is TWISTED in his interpretation?

I take it you don't believe the Bible is God's word.

Sat, 07/19/2014 - 22:55 | 4978876 Sean7k
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There could be many reasons for his interpretation. What if his goal was to work against Christ's teaching by giving greater emphasis to the law? Two, how do you know this is the writings of Saul? Three,the Jews are quite clear that the Torah is not God's word, so this would make the bible not God's word. 

I've always felt the contradictions in the letters are pretty blatant. God prefers you hot or cold, not lukewarm, but be moderate in all things? Christ never spoke of hierarchies, but Paul was creating them through elders and talents or gifts. 

Saul may have been a plant by the Pharisees, to destroy this new faith and teaching. 

If the bible is the word of God, then God' words is pretty useless and lacking in power or persuasion. His Church founded on Peter is a chronicle of horrors. The Judahites are some of the most ruthless killers in history. The Protestants are one of the least tolerant people around and the Muslims must have a whole different version, yet seemingly familiar type of God.

You may be saved by faith, but you will be known by your actions. Save the free choice argument for someone too stupid to see the barndoor you open up with that caveat. You can drive a herd of horses through that one.

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