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The Economist Touts "Cyberdream" Of Global 'National ID System'

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The American Dream blog,

Would you like to have a digital identity card that is automatically issued to you at birth?  In one European nation, residents use such a card when they go to the hospital, when they do their banking, when they go shopping and even when they vote.  This card has become so popular that this particular European country actually plans to start issuing them to millions of non-citizens all over the planet who request them.  Never heard about this?  Neither had I before this week.  The Economist is calling for the entire planet to adopt this “national identification system” that the little nation of Estonia has adopted.  The Economist is touting all of the “benefits” of a “national identification card”, but are there dangers as well?  Could adopting such a system potentially open the door for greater government tyranny than we have ever known before?

The Economist article about this national identification scheme went largely unnoticed because it had a very boring title: “Estonia takes the plunge“.  But the content of the article is absolutely startling.  The Economist article calls the Estonian national identification system a “cyberdream” and makes it sound like it will solve all of our problems…

There is one place where this cyberdream is already reality. Secure, authenticated identity is the birthright of every Estonian: before a newborn even arrives home, the hospital will have issued a digital birth certificate and his health insurance will have been started automatically. All residents of the small Baltic state aged 15 or over have electronic ID cards, which are used in health care, electronic banking and shopping, to sign contracts and encrypt e-mail, as tram tickets, and much more besides—even to vote.

If this was just limited to Estonia, it would be disturbing enough.  But according to the Economist, the Estonian government plans to start issuing these cards to millions of “satellite Estonians” all over the world…

That has left a gap in the global market—one that Estonia hopes to fill. Starting later this year, it will issue ID cards to non-resident “satellite Estonians”, thereby creating a global, government-standard digital identity. Applicants will pay a small fee, probably around €30-50 ($41-68), and provide the same biometric data and documents as Estonian residents. If all is in order, a card will be issued, or its virtual equivalent on a smartphone (held on a special secure module in the SIM card).

 

Some good ideas never take off because too few people embrace them. And with just 1.3m residents, Estonia is a tiddler—even with the 10m satellite Estonians the government hopes to add over the next decade. What may provide the necessary scale is a European Union rule soon to come into force that will require member states to accept each others’ digital IDs. That means non-resident holders of Estonian IDs, wherever they are, will be able not only to send each other encrypted e-mail and to prove their identity to web-service providers who accept government-issued identities, but also to do business with governments anywhere in the EU.

The Economist hopes that Estonia will become a model that the rest of the world will follow.

But do we really want government to have that much control over our lives?

If we need this “digital identity card” to go shopping, do banking or get health care, it would also give the government the power to revoke those “privileges” in a heartbeat.

Already there are countless examples of how governments around the world are using information databases in abusive ways.  For instance, one new lawsuit in the U.S. alleges that average citizens have been put in a ‘terror database’ for doing such things as buying computers and waiting for family members at train stations.

Do we really want to go even further down this road?

And of course “identity cards” can be lost, stolen and forged.  The next logical step would be to permanently implant our identity cards.

To many older Americans, such a notion sounds ludicrous, but many younger Americans are so eager to adopt this kind of technology that they are actually doing it to themselves.  Just check out the following excerpt from a recent NBC News article about “biohackers”…

In tattoo parlors and basements around the world, people are turning themselves into cyborgs by embedding magnets and computer chips directly into their bodies.

They call themselves biohackers, cyborgs and grinders. With each piece of technology they put beneath their skin, they are exploring the boundaries — and the implications — of fusing man and machine.

 

Welcome to the world of biohacking.

 

It’s a niche community at the literal bleeding edge of body modification, and it attracts fervent fans from a variety of schools of thought. Some simply enjoy experimenting with new tech. Others use the magnets and chips for utilitarian purposes.

Does that sound creepy to you?

It should.

But it isn’t just people on the fringes of society that are interested in these kinds of technologies.

For example, electronics giant LG says that it wants to put an electronic tracking device on your child

Various tech companies have introduced wearable devices over the last few years that track your steps or heartbeat and even deliver your e-mails to your wrist.

 

Is electronically tracking your kid the next frontier?

 

LG announced a new device Wednesday morning, the KizON wristband, designed to let parents keep track of their child’s whereabouts. The KizON uses GPS, WiFi and mobile Internet signals to identify the user’s location in real time and sends the information to an Android app.

And billionaire Bill Gates is helping to develop an implant that “acts as a contraceptive for 16 years”

Helped along by one of the world’s most notable billionaires, a U.S. firm is developing a tiny implant that acts as a contraceptive for 16 years — and can be turned on or off using a remote control.

 

The birth control microchip, funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, would hold nearly two decades worth of a hormone commonly used in contraceptives and dispense 30 micrograms a day, according to a report from the MIT Technology Review.

 

The new birth control, which is set to begin preclinical testing next year with hopes of putting it on shelves in 2018, can be implanted in the buttocks, upper arm or abdomen.

Whether you are ready or not, these technologies are coming.

For now, they are voluntary.

But eventually a day may come when you will be required to have an “identity chip” in order to buy, sell, conduct banking, have a job or go to the hospital.

When that day arrives, what will you do?

 

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Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:20 | 4979723 SilverIsMoney
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Mark of the beast...

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:20 | 4979730 fightthepower
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That motherfucker needs to die!

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:38 | 4979800 CH1
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And American Christians will find reasons to comply.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:44 | 4979839 Liberal
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As a staunch liberal, I believe we should put a tiny micro chip in every human being so that we can track everyone and collect taxes.

Thank you.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:48 | 4979854 Headbanger
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And I believe we should also implant a few ounces of C4 wired to that micro chip so retards like you can be exploded by Chinese hackers.

 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:18 | 4979952 AssFire
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"As a staunch liberal, I believe we should put a tiny micro chip in every human being so that we can track everyone and collect taxes"

In fact there will be no need for theses chips at all for the parasitic classes but they will be valuable for detecting producers who attempt to flee the tax slave states of Amurika.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:53 | 4980087 DoChenRollingBearing
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The LAST thing our world needs is a world ID.  Imagine the abuse!  

Maybe I can claim illiteracy!  Watchutalkingbout?  I can't even READ no laws!

One way or another, my opinion is that we will find a way to avoid World Slavery.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:58 | 4980096 boattrash
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Use razorblade to remove microchip, imlant into stray dog or cat, put turpentine on animal's ass and let them track that.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 18:34 | 4981360 The Alarmist
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Whoa, dude ... that's some twisted shit.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:53 | 4979856 Pool Shark
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Please tell me you're being sarcastic...

What's ironic about this is that currently, the easiest people to track are liberals. Anyone with an EBT card can be tracked in real time by their transactions (exact location, amount spent, etc.). And the information is pretty widely available in government circles...

 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:25 | 4979998 DaddyO
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All transactions are tracked!!!

Geo-political affiliation means nothing to the NSA and its ilk.

DaddyO

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 18:36 | 4981367 The Alarmist
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"What's ironic about this is that currently, the easiest people to track are liberals."

Uh, OK, I guess that makes a civil libertarian feel better about this shit.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 21:28 | 4981884 Hydesrevenge
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whichis why Statists hate gun shows

 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 01:33 | 4982423 SF beatnik
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I suppose that pretty soon the USA will do away with cash / currency. All purchases will then be recorded. Almost your every more will be known by the controllers.

The controllers will tend to control. (That's what they do.) 

Where does this lead?

Where do the controllers want the nation to go?

 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:27 | 4980008 LosOsos
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... but your debit/credit card information is uber secure with the most trusted of american institutions- the banks.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:07 | 4980117 DoChenRollingBearing
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Pool Shark

My guess is that he IS using sarcasm very well.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 00:30 | 4982334 Joe Tierney
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You're a STENCH liberal.

 

E.S.A.D.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 13:41 | 4984386 NihilistZero
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As a staunch fascist, I believe we should put a tiny micro chip in every human being so that we can track everyone and collect taxes.

FIFY :-)  I hate that statist ass-hats have co-opted so beautiful a word as "liberal".

You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:48 | 4979850 gh0atrider
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Wasn't Encino Man an Estonian?

Only Satoshi can save us now!

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:49 | 4980078 DoChenRollingBearing
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gh0atrider

One for your review.

If you see anything wrong, please let me know.

(I don't think the credit card buying service wroks in Canada, at least yet.  Eight US states so far, 5% fee)

http://goo.gl/zllrtT

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:23 | 4980171 gh0atrider
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Looks good!  Keep those bearings rolling!

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:25 | 4979999 RafterManFMJ
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This particular individual is unscannable.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:35 | 4980030 LosOsos
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Why come you got no tattoo?

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:41 | 4980050 Greenskeeper_Carl
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That's exactly what I was thinking when I read this. Soon after this happens, we will have president 'not sure'

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:29 | 4979767 TeamDepends
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And plenty of mow-rons will trample each other trying to be first in line.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:46 | 4979845 Headbanger
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Yeah, just to get a low number body tag like the fucking idiots who pay for low number license plates in retarded states like Duh-laware

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:49 | 4979848 Davalicious
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"And plenty of mow-rons will trample each other trying to be first in line."

Only if it has an "Apple" sticker. What they don't realise is that "Apple" translates to "Asshole" in Cabala.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:59 | 4979902 XitSam
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You know, I haven't seen BlankReg in a while.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 19:22 | 4981532 StychoKiller
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M-m-m-max wasn't just 15 seconds in the future!

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:50 | 4980070 CPL
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Exactly.  Couple of examples of the mighty force of 'dumb' that there is always a herd of idiots.  What isn't mentioned is the HUGE amount of challenges to even keeping this type of system running properly.  Never mind the corruption bullshit that would come with it.

People will accept the 'mark' for next to nothing:

  • Spanish banks gave away spider man towels to open bank accounts and people sign up even though it was public knowledge that the Bank in question was bankrupted. 
  • This chick was paid 10k to have golden palace tattooed across her forehead.  Seriously.  It's a tattoo, not a sharpie drawing of a penis on some guy's face while passed out.  This is sober decision making.  http://www.deseretnews.com/article/600145187/Mom-sells-face-space-for-ta...
  • Or the idiot stick we've all met in high school/university that tattoo's the name of the first chick he sleeps with.  Turn's out she was drunk at the time, a ditch pig and like the village bicycle, everyone's had a ride.  Yet, the boy becomes a man and that tattoo hasn't become any less explainable or ridiculous.

How it's fail regardless of subscription:

  • We can't keep data managed today on a tiny database.  That beast would be huge.  Just backups alone, there wouldn't be the storage capacity EVER that could be sensibly managed.  Want to talk about fuckups and shit storms.  Talk to Google.  They haven't talked about it, but they've got some serious issues keeping a decade and a half of live and dead links straight.  There are limits to any database design, while  technically interesting.  They are physically and logistically unsolvable at this moment in time with the current and HIGHEST level of technology.
  • Don't have enough people to build it.  If no one was keeping score.  The situation is pretty grim in IT.  Dot.Bomb put all the best and brightest into Home Depot and Hardware Aisle.  Combine that shortening candle with no one coming out of the computer science field, even then it's going to take another ten years to season those kids properly.  A good developer in field is never how many languages they've got, but how they manage their bag of professionally developed secrets and how fast they can absorb the business requirements.
  • Logistics.  If the people required to build it were given to that project, everything else would break because that's how large the start up scope is.  All 'new' IT projects start with a legion of people when tackling something new.  Something that big would probably need all of the technical staff in north america to start up for around three years just to do the boardroom, Lab and R&D.
  • Capital.  They can't afford to turn on the water in Detriot.  They are broke.  They need something of value to pay with. 
    • The dollar is worthless.  Pay.  Your.   Share.  Or.  Fuck.  Off.  Life ain't free and if some lippy pencil neck fuck wants it built.  Bring money and shut up when we talk on req's, don't tell me about your family.  Or the civil servant plaques on your wall, don't care.  Just bring money and be clear on what you want?  Can't do either right now.
    • There is nothing in a government office worth trading, we built it so offering it is like offering a mechanic a broken car for free if you are only going to request it back.  It won't be given back, but you'll pay for it if you want it.
  • It would be the biggest road to nowhere political fuck up in the history of all political fuck ups.  A project that big always invites project leeches and weasels.  Once there are a certain percentage of weasels running it, everything just magically stops because instead of work, they end up just blowing each other in boardrooms for the remainder of the project charter.  I've been on one backfill project once; paid a couple of bones a day to run the remainder of a budget.  The office I was in had a keyboard, mouse and a monitor.  No computer.  I was given instruction to make it appear like I was working on something if I heard someone coming.  I pretended turning off the monitor and everything...so stupid.

So that's why it will be adopted, but also why it will fail.  It's a complete waste of time. 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:56 | 4980091 DoChenRollingBearing
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CPL

Most excellent!  I agree, very large databases like that have very complicated problems and are prone to failure.

And so many at .gov are lazy and know squat.  I guess we are lucky that ,gov does hire dumb ones too (as wel as many very bright ones).

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:30 | 4980177 CPL
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The 'developed' world is built on the lowest bidder with the most corners cut and in the shortest period of time.  Paid for with a currency backed with nothing.  If Rome or the Pyramids were built to the same degree of care, payment method and quality I doubt anyone would have remembered anyone ever lived there.

The end result of the NIDDB would be as shoddy as the rest of the large government projects because of the huge list of things never to do on a project.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:42 | 4979826 Cacete de Ouro
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The share capital of The Economist (Newspapers Ltd) comprises ordinary shares, special A shares, special B shares and trust shares.

The special A shares essentially control The Economist. The special A shareholders are the Schroder, Rothschild, Agnelli, and Cadbury families, various ex chairmens' families and the desendents of one particular ex-chairman called Henry Strakosch (unless the Rothschilds regained Strakosch's shares). Details on the full A shareholder list do not appear to be easily attainable.

This link provdes a good summary of the ownerhsip structure.

http://www.economistgroup.com/results_and_governance/ownership.html

The Financial Times holds 50% of the shares (excluding the Trust shares) through holding the special B shares, but the A shares and the Trustee shares ultimately control the company due to the way the A and B shares' board positions were set up, and the Trustee shares' special role.

There are 13 seats allowable on the Board, seven of which may be appointed by holders of the "A" special shares and six by the holders of the "B" special shares.

The Board currently has 11 board members. So you got it, 6 vs 5. See if you can guess who was appointed by who. Hint: They are all on the same side!
http://www.economistgroup.com/results_and_governance/board.html

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 16:23 | 4980902 JenkinsLane
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Excellent comment

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:44 | 4979837 goose fat
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"Just as holy medals offer protection from Heaven with Power from God, the mark of the beast will bring with it death – death of the soul and death by a terrible disease. Those who refuse it will have to hide and prepare. I know this is frightening, but it is true. I will intervene with the help of your prayers to put an end to the persecution."

 

http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/the-mark-of-the-beast-will-bring-w...

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:16 | 4980147 Berspankme
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Isnt that rayciss? We dont need no stinking ID. Holder said so

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:21 | 4980419 TBT or not TBT
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He was talking about IDs for his people. 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 20:33 | 4981729 Lost Word
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Or the illegal immigrant aliens.

Given a free pass by TSA to board airliners without ID.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:02 | 4980308 Raging Debate
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Silverismoney - Here is the biblical passage of Revelations written by John of Patmos, a link to Revelations 13.

The specific passages are in verse 17 and 18:

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-Chapter-13/

666 was the seal of Nero, it was a stamp for sealing documents using wax.
An angel explains to John that there were three European empires. One that was Alexander the Great, one that is at the time Rome and one that will be. Revelations 13 says this empire will be revived and won't last long, that is the EU.

666 are geometric dimensions 6x6x6 or a pyramid structure of government. We think of Monarchy when we think of the pyramid and pharaohs for example.

Lots of modern day charts use a pyramid for inequality, the food pyramid etc. Men think in 3D, making buildings like the pyramids, using "trinagulation " strategy as Bill Clinton lived to tout about. Tesla was obssesed with 3's. Call it "the pyramid of thought" if you will because it is how we think.

It doesn't mean this literal number be on microchips, it is a marker. It is about when this global monarchy arrives and compels you to have one inserted or you can't buy goods that the end of an age closes in nasty fashion and a new one begins.

The age of Pisces began in 26 AD and ended in 2012. Few Christians know what that fish symbol on there car means, if they knew it was astrological based they probably would tear it off lol. We are now in the age of Aquarius, age of renewal.

Many people think things happen in one day year or month but they go in cycles of years. But the kingdom that forces the mark of the beast last 3 1/2 years. The Dragon which receives all the power in Rev 13 is China. Oh yeah in the Chinese zodiac the Year of the Dragon is 2012. The Mayans also said 2012 is the year of the serpent.

Imagine if you refuse it and had to forage for that long? It truly will be difficult. And I wager those thag don't take it, especially Christians will be deemed terrorists and hunted down like dogs.

But despite this gloom people forget Revelations 21 that says "The tent of God resides with man forever. That death, sorrow and mourning will be no more. Scientifically, we know life can be extended with biomedicine, organ growing. Since everlasting life is the tenent of most religions I say that yesterdays religions are becoming todays science.

But the real answer to immortality lies in quantum physics and seeding 4D with a portion of DNA shooting this as electrons using quantum tunneling and reverse polarity. We will just be replicating the process that already exists in nature as is our norm when us monkeys build tools. We are already punching holes in 4D to increase trade or I should say creating singularities which cross-connect to 4D.

There are reasons I know these things as a simple servant of man. God does exist and those that push this evil slavery and murder will have a new kind of cell to dwell in for a long time, a place in 4D called the pit. There, they can play with there god Lucifer. But it isn't hellfire as the Catholic church manipulated the intepretation. The "lake of fire" is the second death, John stated this explicitly. It means you don't exist anymore, no information about you ever existing (information stored in energy) is gone. Seems everyone gets a second chance even Lucifer.

But this is a financial blog so I must cut this short now. If you want to talk about this some more email me at jrines@ragingdebate.com. I am no preacher, I am a scientist and Pandeist. If people read there own bible and what Christ said they would realize he was a Pandeist also. So I focus more on how and why as a scientists then "God this or God that". What we or other more evolved species do is learn and share to minimize the pain portion of evolution, an inescapable process for all things. "No pain no gain" but less of it to learn would be nice!

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:48 | 4980526 ILLILLILLI
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Pyramids are also significant because they are the first object that moves into the third dimension. Think about it...any three dots, no matter how configured, connected by lines only occupies a 2D planar space.

Add one more point, and you now have a 3D triangular pyramid.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 15:02 | 4980585 RafterManFMJ
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I gave you a green because you worship Pandas; pretty awesome.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 03:05 | 4982513 mc225
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what is this thing with 'i.d.'? why does anyone have to be 'identified' by 'authorities'? it's corny...

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:20 | 4979727 IridiumRebel
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State ID is fine. Fuck globalism.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:38 | 4979804 CH1
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State ID is fine.

State ID is evil. Fuck ALL overlords.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:28 | 4980443 TBT or not TBT
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Guess the up arrowers don't mind strangers voting in their local elections, uninsured motorists, keeping serial DUIers and hit and run drivers off streets, psychiatric cases and violent criminals from buying weapons, etc. 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 16:19 | 4980883 CH1
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Guess the up arrowers don't mind strangers voting in their local elections...

You don't really still believe in elections, do you?

And it ain't a landscaper named Ramon who is enslaving you.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 16:55 | 4981026 IridiumRebel
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Identification does have purpose but best left to local handling.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 19:26 | 4981541 CH1
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Overlords are overlords. "Local" doesn't change their vile nature.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 20:43 | 4981761 Lost Word
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In feudal times, most people were known by direct personal aquaintance,

when most serfs were born on their overlord's property and stayed in their local village all their lives.

A serf was lucky to have a good overlord,

or unlucky to have a bad overlord.

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 04:35 | 4982574 Confused
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ID is not fine. I know who I am. The people I know, know who I am. The State doesn't need to know a thing. EXCEPT they (in theory) represent the people they want to ID. Without US, they do NOT exist. 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:25 | 4979740 Seize Mars
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No.

I'm not doing it. Nobody owns me. I'm not someone's property.

Enough is enough.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:46 | 4979840 boattrash
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Got Ammo? or Got Ammo!

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:49 | 4979862 Headbanger
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<- Got Enough Ammo

<- Never Enough Ammo

 

There, fixed it.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:06 | 4979933 boattrash
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Not so sure, as many people saw it coming years ago.  Besides, DHS has bought us all plenty to go around, it just has to be "rehypothicated".

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:26 | 4980000 Urban Redneck
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Until you have actually received your "fair share" of the rehypothecated DHS ammo, by definition you have "not enough ammo"

I am a net seller right now, but that doesn't mean I have enough ammo, just that I can't shake the arb tick from my bad old days (and 22LR Federal 40gr match at over .30 PER ROUND is just too good to pass up)...

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:12 | 4980135 boattrash
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Until you have actually received your "fair share" of the rehypothecated DHS ammo, by definition you have "not enough ammo"

I can't find a good definition of not enough, but I've never sold any, only buy, store,  and shoot it. Some people buy boxes, some buy crates, and many reload.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 16:13 | 4980852 Urban Redneck
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If I can swap 3 22LRs for two 7.5mm GP11 or a 7.62mm M118LR I'm happy, but not as happy as if I had a case of Saiga lying the vault now. The gun market is like the stock market, the sheeple who panic do exactly the wrong thing at exactly the wrong time. Either stack and be happy, or give feed the lunatics who will give good money to top tick the market.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:59 | 4980100 DoChenRollingBearing
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I had to red that because it is very rare that anybody have enough ammo.

<- Never Enough Ammo should come FIRST next time!

Bravo, we now see that (at this moment) approx. 10 times as many ZH-ers believe we do not have enough.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 15:58 | 4980786 Jumbotron
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<- Got Enough Ammo

<- Never Enough Ammo

 

No....here...let me fix it the RIGHT way.

 

Got enough ammo that you can shoot accurately under stress ?

 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:48 | 4979852 Da Yooper
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Mars I agree with you

 

thing is

 

the bankers & politicians  see you as their property a resource to be mined for taxes

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:00 | 4979908 XitSam
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And look at what's been happening to bankers ...

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:51 | 4979864 tickhound
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Well, let's see if it's you.

You have a social security number, a drivers license, a driving record, maybe a criminal record, a tax ID, and a name... You prolly didn't volunteer for these.

You may have a phone and/or cell number, a fishing license, a credit/debit card(s) number(s), an email, voter registration... You prolly did volunteer for these.

You slave for a wage to enable payments... You volunteered out of necessity.

You did this. It is you. You are a wage slave. You are owned.

In this system, you have no free will. It's an illusion.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:06 | 4979932 Pool Shark
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That's why you should use cash/precious metals whenever possible.

That's also why governments are trying to stop the use of cash/precious metals and force everyone to use traceable plastic.

 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:14 | 4979958 boattrash
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Pool Shark, don't forget the good old-fashioned Labor Swap. I recently smacked a deer, traded some mechanic work for some body work, and now we both have good looking, good running cars. Practically everybody has skills/services that can be traded for ones needed.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:31 | 4980014 Pool Shark
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"Practically everybody has skills/services that can be traded for ones needed."

50 years ago I would have wholeheartedly agreed with this; today, not so much...

 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:33 | 4980207 boattrash
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Good point, I should've used the word "some". I stand corrected Pool Shark.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:34 | 4980015 tickhound
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In this system, maybe you're right... Maybe you do remedy a few of the above listed SYMPTOMS. But ultimately, you could think further outside this box.

Understand that technology is being used to perpetuate an outdated economic model premise based on SCARCITY. It is not used for models based on abundance. It isn't designed to efficiently replace you as a wage slave. It is suppressed and slowly spoon fed to enable the continuation of human labor. Your consumption is what is VITAL.

Tomatoes are sterilized cuz it's profitable. GDP increases as the number of sick and dying people increase. Towns wiped out by floods create economic boons...

Product sustainability is INVERSE to economic growth.

Human ingenuity and genius has potentially enabled technological renaissance... An actual opportunity to redesign our now obsolete system.

But it cannot happen within a labor-wage-consumption model. It can't happen as long as scarcity remains profitable.

And it certainly can't happen if every solution presented falls within the two monetary-ISMS debated on this site.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:04 | 4980112 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Interesting comment worthy of further thought.  I often find I disagree with you, but here you have provided a little set of gems.  

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:55 | 4980316 Perfecthedge
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Tickhound: I applaud your thinking and approach to tackle this problem.  Go on brother! We need more people thinking outside of the box and even beyond of what is considered "possible".

 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:25 | 4979744 HardAssets
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They've spent a hundred years dumbing down the populace.

Inbed the ID in a tat and the stupid &*^%s will probably even pay for it, and think they're 'stylish'.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:26 | 4979747 Mike in GA
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You will place your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.  Government will have complete control of your ability to buy and sell.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:26 | 4979748 power_shift
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George Orwell R.I.P.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:03 | 4979921 homme
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John the Apostle RIP

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:54 | 4980557 ILLILLILLI
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Rip Torn RIP

 

Oh, wait...he's still alive!!

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:19 | 4979971 zer0concerns
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Eric was selling his buddies and neighbors to the Brutish(er,I ment British) secret police dude.
Like, yo, try to live a steady superiority over life. Don't pursue the illusory dude.
Check it yo...I got zero Fucking concerns
I AM SATOSHI.
quoting Mr 1984 is a vote for tyranny. Eric was working for da man guy. And he was selling his buddies and neighbors to da po, of which, he was a member. Why ya think he was soooo Fucking nervous.
Zero Fucking concerns over here. Bring it on,I say.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:28 | 4980460 Falling Down
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Aldous Huxley R.I.P.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:57 | 4980566 ILLILLILLI
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>> George Orwell R.I.P.

And yet, he lives...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba4J6umbbp0

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:28 | 4979749 Thanatos
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I thought my Social Security Card did this?

Or was it my certificate of birth registration?

I bet a foreign national can still vote in any US election without it anyhow.

Those Estonians should quit getting Estoned and come to their senses..

 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:36 | 4979755 Ghordius
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Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:39 | 4979814 Thanatos
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IIRC, It's usually the Estonian's stealing other peoples ID's...

Sounds like a MEGA SCAM to steal EVERYONE's IDs.

Those Estonians are a clever lot.

Have you applied for/recieved your Estonian "Global ID" yet?

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:31 | 4979759 BrigstockBoy
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It's all a part of the indoctrination. A constant barrage of suggestion, imagery, hoaxes and false flags. They're ramping it up big time. The push is on.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:28 | 4979761 apberusdisvet
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I love the smell of totalitarianism in the morning.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:29 | 4979763 Conchy Joe
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Cattle look sexy with their yellow ear tags.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:29 | 4979766 DR
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A must read!

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/20/rise-of-data-death-of-...

"Tech pioneers in the US are advocating a new data-based approach to governance – 'algorithmic regulation'. But if technology provides the answers to society's problems, what happens to governments?"

"A corporate, elitist and surveillance state utopia, where we are reduced to nothing more than commodity purchasing units or potential terrorists with no capacity of free will.

A Brave New World indeed."

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:37 | 4979798 adonisdemilo
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Sounds like a good idea provided they are issued only to people who's grand parents were born here.

The downside is that if ever the little green men were to land in the UK that little shit for brains Liberal Nick Clegg will insist that they get them so that they can access to the untold benefits system.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:40 | 4979824 CH1
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Sounds like a good idea provided they are issued only to people who's grand parents were born here.

If that ain't sarc, you are a world-class sucker.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:37 | 4979801 goldhedge
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ESTONIA...Another CIA B1tch.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:40 | 4979813 thatthingcanfly
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Can I get an implant that causes my penis to automatically get hard every time I see a hot chick?

Umm, wait...

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:42 | 4980052 mijev
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Damn, they must have already implanted that in me one night when I was asleep.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:42 | 4979819 Jack Burton
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As much as we all love the little nation of Estonia, one should be aware that the globalists, or bankers and the rest who promote one world government, have taken over the leadership role of that tiny nation. They were firmly under the globalists by 2008 when their real estate and bubble economy exploded. The international bankers used Estonia as the model for fixing the 2008 crisis. NO, they did not adopt the Iceland model, if you had been paying attention, you would have seen Estonia transfer bad debts to the public. Banks were made whole at government and people's expense. Austerity was ruthless, and a large portion of the population simply left. Lucky they could run to Germany, Norway, Sweden and Finland. But those left at home are being used by globalist to try out all their economic and social plans. Thus there ID systems the above article is about.

The world corporate media portrays Estonia as not only Fixed, but now a model for other nations. In fact, should you research Estonia, or even visit, you will hear the horror stories of low wages, part time contract work, no benefits, slashed health care and social supports, and mass migration. One economist described Estonia in a decade as a large mostly empty nearly bankrupt Old People's Home. AS only the too poor and too old are left.

Do not believe and of the economic press or major media outlets tell you Estonia is fixed, or a model. It is a globalist playground. Bankers have it great, and the 1% did really make out well in the austerity, wage cuts, health care cuts and the end of basic services. Most services werre privatized by the globalists, and while this sounds good, those who bought them have stripped the services to the bone and jacked all prices up. People get little if any social and medical services for their tax dollars, and prices for utilites are up every month.

Estonia is the globalist model, I urge you to look into it. Iceland is the Free Man's model, I urge to look into the two nations and compare them.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:26 | 4980004 moneybots
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"The international bankers used Estonia as the model for fixing the 2008 crisis. NO, they did not adopt the Iceland model, if you had been paying attention, you would have seen Estonia transfer bad debts to the public. Banks were made whole at government and people's expense. Austerity was ruthless, and a large portion of the population simply left."

 

What happens when there is no place left to go, as every country is doing the same Estonia version?

Doing Estonia does not fix the crisis, though.  It creates social unrest, as demonstrated by the fact that "a large portion of the population left".  What happens to those people when they are Estoniaed a second time in the country they moved to?  How will they react to that?

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:35 | 4980027 moneybots
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"Bankers have it great, and the 1% did really make out well in the austerity, wage cuts, health care cuts and the end of basic services"

 

Haven't there been some business owners in France that have been kidnapped by workers?  If the globe is heading for a financial meltdown, as a result of a record debt bubble, who is going to wind up doing great?

 

 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:49 | 4980073 Ghordius
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Jack Burton, re "Iceland is the Free Man's model"... last time I checked, Iceland still has very strong capital controls in place. I understand more than Cyprus

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:41 | 4979827 blindman
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http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/104761
Guns and Butter
The Secret Theatre of Reality (or Use Your Imagination) with Jon Rappoport
Fifty-six minute edit of a ninety minute performance piece from The Secret Space Program and Breakaway Civilization 2014 Conference.
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjr5U7g6aiA
Paul Pena - Jet Airliner (The Original)
.
a temporary arrangement of relationship takes
place between man and matter we call technology.
most if not all lose themselves here to find themselves
lost, then blame the matter on the matter and technology.
the technology was available so it had to be used.
the horrible result of the use of the technology no
one could see coming. the reason for employment
was good and great, the result was just or some
inevitable fate or destiny, unavoidable. (?)
is our technology designed to eliminate us?
is that what is going on?

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:44 | 4979829 FeralSerf
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The NSA could do all the administration and information storage, access and control in connection with these cards. They already have global dominance of information collection so that wouldn't be all that difficult for them to implement (if they haven't already).

And then all Earthlings everywhere would live happily ever after secure in the knowledge that their new world government is there to help them.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:19 | 4979976 Thanatos
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Sometimes I wonder if a supercomputer (or a network of them) isn't making the big decisions already.

It could explain activities relating to collection, storage and analysis of every possible bit of data.

Didn't the USG just come out with a statement about using computers to manage the Nations issues?

A Digital ID of some sort (RF, BIO, Optical, etc) would be a requirement to really get the "system" screwed down tight.

Once that's in play, the whole place is just a big SIM CITY to those who control the keyboard.

I know enough to know that the slickest, most crafty and evil WILL get control of the keyboard at some point.

That is why I do NOT like the idea of these IDs... They WON'T be used to equalize things for everyone, just me and you.

Don't get confused, if you value freedom, diversity, dignity, privacy or many other intangible things, you should not want a global ID of any sort.

If you are posting Geo-located, timestamped pics (or live vid) of your junk to your Craigslist Pages, you prolly won't mind a global ID.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:23 | 4980421 FeralSerf
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Computers have been used successfully for over 30 years to track and manage livestock like cows, horses and sheep. Why would anyone not realize they're used extensively to manage the human variety of livestock as well?

If you dislike the idea of being livestock that is owned by some group of elites, then the whole concept of being computer managed should be repugnant.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 11:44 | 4979838 blindman
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are we physical beings beings having a spiritual
experience or spiritual beings having a physical
experience, does it matter?

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:29 | 4980188 lesterbegood
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 I AM a Divine Spirit having a human experience

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:43 | 4980248 Skateboarder
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It is the latter, and it does matter. Our dialogue with the stars has long vanished, but the meditant will always hear the cosmic echoes of non-matter. All humans come equipped with apriori knowledge.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:05 | 4979929 Kirk2NCC1701
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Don't tattoos already serve as IDs in some circles?

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:08 | 4979938 Sid James
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How many more would the Nazi's have murdered if they had had this technology at their fingertips?

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:08 | 4979941 Wahooo
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One ID, one Currency, one Caliphate.

One bullet for each PTB.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:09 | 4979947 yellowsub
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"In tattoo parlors and basements around the world, people are turning themselves into cyborgs by embedding magnets and computer chips directly into their bodies.

They call themselves biohackers, cyborgs and grinders. "

 

I call them idiots...

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:14 | 4979957 aleph0
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AUSTRIA's  "ELGA"

Politician explains the "advantages" of an RFID implanted for all Medical Patients.

"RFID - schlimmer als tätowierte KZ-Nummern! "
"RFID - worse than a Concentration-Camp Number"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA5WHECbJZg

@2:59
It would be a "good idea" for ALL humans .

 

 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:18 | 4979968 autofixer
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If we could only get the I.D. chip embedded in our right hands or foreheads. That way they could never be lost.   Wait.  I read that in a book someplace? 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:27 | 4980006 SMC
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"When that day arrives, what will you do?"

Would that be pre or post World War 3 ?

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:29 | 4980011 pain_and_soros
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15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 21:03 | 4981818 Lost Word
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Unfortunately the NWO and most others are following an incorrect interpretation of Revelation.

If the NWO and the others understood the correct interpretation of the prophecy,

the outcome would be entirely different than what they had intended.

And yet, if the prophecy is fulfilled according to the correct interpretation,

as the only possibility, if predestined fulfillment according to the Almighty Giver of the prophecy,

then the future outcome WILL be different than what the NWO intended.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:36 | 4980035 TheObsoleteMan
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Many, many years ago, I got my Socialist Security card. Back then, you just had to have one by the time you started a job. I didn't get mine until I was 14 or 15. And get this: YOU HAD TO ASK FOR ONE. Nowadays, they issue them at birth, no request is necessary. I remember being told by the SS agent {that's Social Security, not that other SS, although similar in allot of ways} that ONLY SS should ever be given my number, that I was not to share it with anyone other than my employer. No look. Banks ask for it, schools ask for it, on and on and on. If that isn't a National ID card, I don't know what is.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:26 | 4980447 FeralSerf
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After you got your card, did you then feel socially secure?

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:39 | 4980039 medium giraffe
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We know the war prepared
On every peaceful home,
We know the hells declared
For such as serve not Rome --
The terror, threats, and dread
In market, hearth, and field --
We know, when all is said,
We perish if we yield.

-Kipling

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:45 | 4980062 JustPrintMoreDuh
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Dear Economist, 

   Kindly GO FUCK YOURSELVES!!!

 

Sincerely, 

   Freedom loving people everywhere.

 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:49 | 4980076 Implied Violins
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I saw a documentary that warned of this, called 'Ethos' and narrated by Woody Harrelson:

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/ethos/

The bankers all want us to have those microchips inserted so if we misbehave, they can turn them off...and we will starve.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:50 | 4980082 Ban KKiller
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Seems like most are against this...if you are awake. Sleep sheep.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:52 | 4980086 Racer
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/17/nhs-taken-over-wall-street-cameron-health-service-privatisation

The NHS is bad enough but if this happens then it will be truly horrendous

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:54 | 4980088 Downtoolong
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You can clearly see from the Gates project how the progression of this tech is from mere tracking and monitoring to real time control. How long before everyone gets a Google Glass implanted directly into their eye that’s connected to a microchip embedded in their brain at birth? Suddenly everyone will see the world differently, (i.e., the Google way), and get an urge to vote for Sergey Brin for President of the World the day they turn 21.

So much for worrying about robots and machines taking over the world. I’m more worried about a handful of humans turning all the rest into robot slaves.

 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 12:59 | 4980097 damicol
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They could just tattoo "CUNT" on our foreheads at birth.

 

 Its cheaper easier no database needed, no system to go down, then they could fuck us any time they wanted without all this high tech bollox

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:53 | 4980114 Joe A
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Every dictator's wet dream. Handy, citizens can be remotely 'switched off' if they don't comply or are disobedient.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:28 | 4980184 eishund
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And, Singaporeans will tell you it is normal to have a national identity card. They have been desensitized and indoctrinated. The mark of the beast is coming.

http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2014/April28/281.html

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:30 | 4980191 smacker
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"Could adopting such a system potentially open the door for greater government tyranny than we have ever known before?"

There is NO doubt whatsover it would lead to tyranny. That's why so many psychopathic political elites want them. It's why Tony Blair spent billions trying to get them up & running in the UK.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:40 | 4980236 Joebloinvestor
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Already been proposed.

 

Watch,"The President's Analyst" (James Coburn)

Kinda funny and scary, definitely dated.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:47 | 4980275 Obamanism
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I guess the EU will fund it and who will implement it? Well a company that had the system down to a T in the 1930's. I Bee Mad if I told you.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:48 | 4980290 Fuku Ben
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Complete enslavement, transhumanism and eugenics

The sexy "Smart" Technologies of the future marketed to the idiots of today

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:00 | 4980335 RMolineaux
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Here in Panama, such a system is already in use.  Every citizen and legal resident 18 and over is required to have a "cedula" which serves as personal identification for credit card use, dealing with governmental agencies and voting.  In a country where relatively few drive vehicles, it serves similar purposes as a driver's license in the US.  Of course, it would be prone to the abuses shown in this item, but almost everyone accepts these risks for the advantages.  Uncontrolled immigration is part of the history of Panama, which has unpopulated borders with neighboring Colombia and Costa Rica, as well as voluminous port traffic at the canal.  The cedula system is an attempt by the government to bring this under control as well as prevent electoral fraud.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:33 | 4980475 FeralSerf
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Is "electoral fraud" the act of voting by someone not approved by the current Powers That Be?

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:40 | 4980506 RMolineaux
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If you are referring to the current Repúblican program to disenfranchise minorities in the US, I agree with you.  That is not the case in Panama, where most of the population resembles what are called "minorities" in the US.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:07 | 4980357 the grateful un...
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we already have ids, social security, drivers license, military id. only thing, the world is going the other way. why do you need an SSN card, to get a job? what job? do you need a drivers license? with commuter trains and buses? you don't need that either. we're all much closer than we think to being persona non grata. we need their id in order to get healthcare, credit, a travel visa. (need a travel visa, just jump the fucking fence amigo) government may hold us hostage for the branded version of these things, but we don't really need them do we? and government will certainly resent those outside their id system. they didn't like thoreau either, they put him in jail. i am not sure we are any more commodified than we were in the 1800's, (if you choose to read Walden again) if anything technology may free us from the yoke of government supervision.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:45 | 4980525 RMolineaux
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I have to disagree strongly with your last sentence.  Technology has enabled the government to conduct surveillance and store data at a rate never dreamed of.  It has become the perfect tool for tyranny.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:09 | 4980367 Duffy Duck
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presumably, you won't need a chip to vote. 

Too much of a burden to get a free chip the government provides and gives everyone... a burden on non-citizens, that is.

The process of enrolling for and obtaining welfare, wic, section 8, etc. - strangely, not burdensome. 

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 15:10 | 4980411 bitterwolf
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OMG, the sky is falling ...mark of the beast...mankind progressing past fire and the wheel... luddites on the march....privacy invaded...take heart fearful there are many ways to look at this forgone conclusion in human organizational advancement.YOU dont have a choice unless you "drop out" of society...willfull street people,mooozdumb fighters,Ted Kaczyinski types,low skill anti-social parasitical types.High iq sociopaths in power and generational wealth transfers  are a fact of life in perpetuity. The struggle is the glory of UBER MENSCH.

Cheers

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:29 | 4980459 FeralSerf
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The Economist is well known as a propaganda mouthpiece of The Elites.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 14:57 | 4980567 roadhazard
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never happen

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 15:00 | 4980578 zerohedgejjxxzz12
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Old Fashined Slavery in America.

 The slaves of the time were given food and shelter as for they could not continue to slave for free wothout it.

The slave of today has to find food and shelter for themselves, and continue to slave on.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 15:54 | 4980770 BouncingCat
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Yeah, but they still wouldn't require you to show it to vote...

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 16:39 | 4980951 JenkinsLane
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In the famous words of the comedian Micky Flanagan, "These cunts have got to go."

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 20:28 | 4981711 Axenolith
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For any of the non believers, or who don't recll the context:

The Mark of the Beast
16And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Note, there is a happy ending for the non takers (with an interesting nuclear aspect to it).

Revelation 15:2
And I saw what looked like a sea of glass glowing with fire and, standing beside the sea, those who had been victorious over the beast and its image and over the number of its name. They held harps given them by God

 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 00:50 | 4982369 merchantratereview
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It's not a prophecy, it's a playbook.

Sun, 07/20/2014 - 21:23 | 4981868 Axie
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Oh it's good old eSStonia, of course. 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 00:43 | 4982363 Joe Tierney
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Soooo, chip implants are the wave 'o the future, eh? Guess we'll have to change our lingo to match:

 

He's a chip off the old block. (yep - his butt has the same model implanted as his dad had)

 

Get that chip off your shoulder! (yeah, get it off your shoulder and in your ass)

 

You have to chip away at your problem. (I'll sell "Chip-Away" chip extraction kits for home use and get filthy rich)

 

I can see it now - and we thought THIS was the era of zero responsibility for your actions! No, no, no! I can already hear the 'haywire chip' defense for murder, rape, theft, ....

 

Makes me wanna watch that great movie with George Segal and that hot, hot, hot Joan Hackett - The Terminal Man

 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 01:21 | 4982411 Troy Ounce
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Just try to implement this ID syatem in Africa: hahaha

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 03:37 | 4982535 DutchR
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Do some research on "telephone payment systems in africa".

 

Mon, 07/21/2014 - 06:48 | 4982650 AdvancingTime
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 Just over a year ago I stumbled upon a blog on WordPress .com written by Gerry Spence who was born and educated in the small towns of Wyoming where he has practiced law for almost fifty-five years. As a  nationally known figure in the legal system Spence  has spent his lifetime representing and protecting victims of the legal system from what he calls The New Slave Master: big corporations and big government. Below is a disturbing take on society put out there by Gerry Spence and the idea that we have become no more than slaves.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2012/02/we-are-all-slaves-interesting-tho...


Mon, 07/21/2014 - 07:11 | 4982666 Youri Carma
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Straight from Rockefeller, TOTAL CONTROL, everybody will be chipped and all the money will be in your implanted chip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Wsb4qBckU

Reflections & Warnings - An Interview with Aaron Russo (FULL) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSGZ4Hkdyg4
Tue, 07/22/2014 - 10:29 | 4987743 Vin
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The mark of the beast.  If you don't get one you will not be able to buy or sell.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!