Recovery Of Malaysian Airlines Black Box Caught On Tape: Separatists To Hand Over To International Delegation

Tyler Durden's picture

With the rabbit hole of conspiracies getting deeper by the hour, video has emerged showing what appears to be the "black box" flight data recorder from Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 being taken from the crash scene. As NBC reports, the men in the video are wearing Ukrainian Emergency Ministry uniforms, but a senior Ukrainian official told a news conference Sunday that rebels had taken the black boxes. This fits with reports from The Hill that pro-Russian separatists have located the black boxes for the downed Malaysia Airlines passenger jet and will hand them over to international authorities, according to separatist leader Alexander Borodai. With the US having offered more "proof" that Russia was involved, perhaps some facts from the Black Box will help clarify details in this dreadful situation... though we are not confident.

As NBC reports - recorded on Friday, the footage shows rescue workers carrying the distinctive bright orange device through a wheat field in eastern Ukraine's Donetsk region. The voice of a man who is not shown in the video can be heard saying "flight recorder" in Russian.

 

 

As Star Tribune reports,

Rebels have recovered the black boxes from downed Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 and will hand them over to the International Civil Aviation Organization, a rebel leader said Sunday.

 

Alexander Borodai also said the bodies recovered from the crash site in eastern Ukraine would remain in refrigerated train cars at a station in the rebel-held town of Torez, 15 kilometers (9 miles) away, until the arrival of an international aviation delegation.

Controversy still swirls over the treatment of the bodies...

The news from The Associated Press came amid reports that armed rebels had forced Ukrainian emergency workers to hand over 196 bodies from the site and loaded them onto refrigerated train cars.

 

"Where they took the bodies — we don't know," Ukrainian Emergency Ministry spokeswoman Nataliya Bystro told The AP. Russian news outlets said the trains were bound for rebel-controlled city of Donetsk.

 

Associated Press journalists saw reeking bodies baking in the summer heat Saturday, piled into body bags by the side of the road or still sprawled where they landed in the verdant farmland in eastern Ukraine after their plane was shot out of the sky. By Sunday morning, AP journalists saw no bodies and no armed rebels at the crash site. Emergency workers were searching the sprawling fields only for body parts.

 

"We're looking at the field where the engines have come down. This was the area which was exposed to the most intense heat. We do not see any bodies here. It appears that some have been vaporized," he told reporters in Kiev on Sunday, speaking via phone from the crash site.

The crash site remains a disaster but the bodies are gone...

 

The US is pushing the "Russia is responsible" meme harder this weekend...

The U.S. embassy in Kiev issued a strong statement Sunday pointing to Russian complicity in arming the rebels, saying it has concluded "that Flight MH17 was likely downed by a SA-11 surface-to-air missile from separatist-controlled territory in eastern Ukraine."

 

It said over the weekend of July 12-13, "Russia sent a convoy of military equipment with up to 150 vehicles, including tanks armored personnel carriers artillery, and multiple rockets launchers" to the separatists. The statement also said Russia was training separatist fighters in southwest Russia, including on air defense systems.

And the rest of The West...

In a blistering article for the Sunday Times, British Prime Minister David Cameron called the attack a "direct result of Russia destabilizing a sovereign state, violating its territorial integrity, backing thuggish militias and training and arming them."

 

"We must turn this moment of outrage into a moment of action," he wrote.

 

In a coded rebuke of German Chancellor Angela Merkel and other European leaders who have blocked efforts to impose tougher sanctions on Russian President Vladimir Putin for Russia's actions in Ukraine, Cameron said Europe must now "respond robustly."

 

"For too long, there has been a reluctance on the part of too many European countries to face up to the implications of what is happening in eastern Ukraine," Cameron wrote.

 

Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans, speaking in Kiev, demanded that the culprits be found.

 

"Once we have the proof, we will not stop until the people are brought to justice," he said.

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1stepcloser's picture

Yep I can hear the pilot now... "you see that missle coming up at us from the Russian Separtists...evasive action.."

Tao 4 the Show's picture

First time I have ever heard of this being on tape. Someone's "proof" that this is real.
The greatest war is the one for your mind.

old naughty's picture

damn right "we are not confident",

it will only get us more confused and focussed in this, no?

Pladizow's picture

What do fake blondes and the MH17 have in common?

They both have black boxes!

lordylord's picture

5 min after the crash, it seems that Ukraine and the US had proof.  But when have governments EVER told the truth?

TeamDepends's picture

What if Igor Girson/Strelkov is telling the truth that some of the bodies were already badly decomposed and drained of blood. They could have been injected with anything! Crews near the corpses could be infected or possibly ground water. Was this a biological attack? Have they started not WWIII but WWZ?

ZerOhead's picture

I think it's time to temporarily back of the meds TeamDepends  ;)

 

So has anybody over here heard any of those air traffic control / MH17 audios yet?

They've (we've) been sitting on those for over three days now. Everything from Amsterdam to Kiev was recorded and in their hands yet nothing released to the public.

Could have gone a long way to shutting up us conspiracy "kooks" before we had a chance to question the official story and also giving the MSM media real evidence rather than just the conjecture they have been spewing.

Question is WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR?

Manthong's picture

Does anyone think that the Russians do NOT have all of the air traffic communication with Kiev controllers recorded?

If the Russians are not really involved with the incident here, we will hear the directives from Kiev to MH17 soon.

7.62x54r's picture

About the only thing the black box will have is a recording of earlier radio traffic ( that might be useful ), the last yells of the flight crew, and confirmation that an engine was blown off.

bunzbunzbunz's picture

And a list of sensor data/failures - indicating where/if/when/how fast damage was done to the plane, thus indicating the size of initial damage, direction from which the damage came, size of explosive/EMP/jammer/laser in the pilots' eyes [ :) ].

erkme73's picture

Five minutes BEFORE the crash... There, fixed it.

crazyjsmith's picture

"The truth has been classified, so stop demanding it, or we'll label you a terrorist"

- Both Sides

IEVI's picture

exactly..can you say distraction

this is the top story on every news site

meanwhile in Gaza...............

Geronimo66's picture
What Happened to the Malaysian Airliner? - http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/19/happened-malaysian-airliner-p...

"What intended use? News reports and circumstantial evidence provide two answers. One is that the ultra-nationalist extremists intended to bring down Putin’s presidential airliner and confused the Malaysian airliner with the Russian airliner.

The Interfax news agency citing anonymous sources, apparently air traffic controllers, reported that the Malaysian airliner and Putin’s airliner were traveling almost the identical route within a few minutes of one another. Interfax quotes its source: “I can say that Putin’s plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft at 15:44 Moscow time. The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical.”

I have not seen an official Russian denial, but according to news reports, the Russian government in response to the Interfax news report said that Putin’s presidential plane no longer flies the Ukraine route since the outbreak of hostilities."

Titus's picture

Russian govt has been asked, their response is "we never comment on the locotaion of the president's plane."

buyingsterling's picture

Thanks for this, great video.

conscious being's picture

Excellent find as usual, Rusty. Reading the Northwoods extracts, how can bubisAmericanus continue to believe anything coming out of zion DC??

FYI, Singapore is very close to the Zinos and they have issues with their neighbor Malaysia

Edit - Operation Northwoods scheme was to say the Cuban Mig did it, when in fact the target airliner would have a BOMB on board, to be detonated at the appropriate time.

philipat's picture

Just for info, there are actually TWO "Black boxes".

Firstly, the Digital Flight Data Recoreder (DFDR). This won't help much except to show when the aircraft was hit and all data stopped recording.

Secondly, the Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) which might help explain WHY MH17 was much further North than the normal flight path used by other MH flights in the week prior and by other carriers. Was this directed by Kiev ATC and, if so, why? We won't know from ATC records in Kiev because these records have been confiscated by the Ukranian Security Services. Why?

So any real further information depends upon who is holding the Black boxes and what actually happened. This is very murky as usual.

chubbar's picture

In addition, isn't it fucking convenient how this tragedy fits perfectly with the US/UK call for the EU nations to impose sanctions on Russia? Here Cameron calls for EU support for sanctions but doesn't seem concerned about the confiscation of evidence by Ukrainian Security services. This isn't a search for the truth, it's an effort to isolate Russia from the EU.

Furthermore, I'm not sure ICAO is properly vetted as an institution that would reliably report evidence that goes against US interests. I would feel more comfortable if a team were compiled from countries that have a mix of interests in the outcome of the tapes. Have some russian/chinese observers with the tapes at all times with no one having unfettered access until the contents are published.

Sirius Wonderblast's picture

Completely agree. Unfortunately, it seems Maceroon is doing Obama/TPTB bidding on this one, and to hell with evidence.

Perfecthedge's picture

David "THE CUNT" Cameron should be hanged.  Warmonger!  He is just like the other idiot (Tony "Pedo" Blair)

 

Eirik Magnus Larssen's picture

Tony Blair is where Social Democracy began to head in the wrong direction.

laomei's picture

Well, the ATC tapes are being edited to make them as damning as possible.  If the CVR has gotten into the outside world into hands which are not willing to play along, then Kiev will simply claim they have been faked.  It's all the matter of who releases first.

ThirteenthFloor's picture

RT did report that Russia was close to the chain of custody on the boxes.   http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/

Yes. The Air Traffic Control Recorders and the Radar systems can already provide "who sent and why was MH17 in that airspace" - that has been available since the crash and NOT revealed by USS.

So do not expect the "truth" will be known here.  Meanwhile Israel continues human atrocities, and the war drums pound on.

MsCreant's picture

Why is this funny and obvious sarcasm being down voted?

1stepcloser's picture

CIA trolls know we are onto them!  Thats why!

Chupacabra-322's picture

They're not trolls.

They're Pure Evil Lucerferian Vermin which need to be hunted down like the dogs that they are, hung upside down, have thier throats slit, watch them drown in thier own blood while simultaneously being set on fire.

Mark my words, their day of reckoning is vast approaching those Murdering Satinists.

Thirtyseven's picture

What if they're not CIA/NSA trolls.  What if they are Mossad or Hasbara?  Much worse in my opinion, that latter group.

Winston Churchill's picture

Plenty of overlap due to  alien DNA.

CuttingEdge's picture

Just plain low-life no-life Orwellian cunt sums up your average NSA/CIA data collector.

Just in case any of them upon reading the above start questioning their personal role in all this shit but find the language a bit extreme.

conscious being's picture

How's that go? "By deception so shall you wage war."

DeadFred's picture

Nobody likes the first commenter

thatthingcanfly's picture

Because there's nothing funny about any of this?

MsCreant's picture

Works for me as a good reason for a down vote there.

Sarcasm is one of the weapons of the weak (the weak being you and I, the dead cannot defend themselves any more). You and I have to "trust" everything coming out of the "investigation." Uh huh....right. Ridicule, sarcasm, and suspicion is all we got.

"Dis" information makes it so they don't have to lie. All they have to do is put so many alternatives out there that we don't know what to believe. The truth can be in the mix, it's great stuff. The "backfire" to this is that folks like me (and you?) believe nothing and hate them and seethe. 

infinity8's picture

So much bullshit, so little time.

El Vaquero's picture

I once attended a talk by a forensic anthropologist.  He was one of the guys that would get sent in to examine a scene where a person had died in a bath tub full of water and had not been discovered for a week.  Nasty shit.  His sense of humor was twisted, and I think it was a defense mechanism to safeguard his sanity.  Gallows humor. 

 

We're watching the whole world catch fire, and should laugh while we can. 

Greenskeeper_Carl's picture

That's all it is. Having pulled bodies out of the water, etc, you make some pretty calloused remarks and crude jokes. It's not that you don't care about the dead, or feel sorry for the families, it's just a distraction from the fucked up distinction you are in. Not something you would want the 'uninitiated' regular people to hear you doing though. They wouldn't get it, and just think you are a total asshole.

infinity8's picture

I knew someone years ago (late '80's?) that thought they were going to be some kind of forensics specialist. Until they had to deal w/the first body-in-the-trunk case that came up. NOPE! done outta here!! I've done a lot of different things but, can't really relate to that. And, I'm sure they don't get paid enough so, have to be half mental to even go there. . .

The Alarmist's picture

I unfortunately had to train for recovery exerises, and we had someone go the comissary to buy a bunch of meat they would then let rot in the field for a couple days to enhance our experience in dealing with this.  You can't be a part of this sort of event with actual human remains an not have some sort of coping mechanism to deal with what was once a lving soul having now become a stinking piece of rotting meat.

pcrs's picture

That would be about the reason for the course deviation taking it over the war zone. I heard it was bad weather on the normal route.

rubiconsolutions's picture

How soon we forget. Please remind me...who was held responsible for that? Uh, nobody. "The United States did not apologize to Iran." Sure. Because after all they're just a bunch of ragheads, right?