Ron Paul: What The Press Isn't Reporting About The MH17 Disaster

Tyler Durden's picture

Authored by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute,

Just days after the tragic crash of a Malaysian Airlines flight over eastern Ukraine, Western politicians and media joined together to gain the maximum propaganda value from the disaster. It had to be Russia; it had to be Putin, they said. President Obama held a press conference to claim – even before an investigation – that it was pro-Russian rebels in the region who were responsible. His ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, did the same at the UN Security Council – just one day after the crash!
While western media outlets rush to repeat government propaganda on the event, there are a few things they will not report.

They will not report that the crisis in Ukraine started late last year, when EU and US-supported protesters plotted the overthrow of the elected Ukrainian president, Viktor Yanukovych. Without US-sponsored “regime change,” it is unlikely that hundreds would have been killed in the unrest that followed. Nor would the Malaysian Airlines crash have happened. 


The media has reported that the plane must have been shot down by Russian forces or Russian-backed separatists, because the missile that reportedly brought down the plane was Russian made. But they will not report that the Ukrainian government also uses the exact same Russian-made weapons.


They will not report that the post-coup government in Kiev has, according to OSCE monitors, killed 250 people in the breakaway Lugansk region since June, including 20 killed as government forces bombed the city center the day after the plane crash! Most of these are civilians and together they roughly equal the number killed in the plane crash. By contrast, Russia has killed no one in Ukraine, and the separatists have struck largely military, not civilian, targets.


They will not report that the US has strongly backed the Ukrainian government in these attacks on civilians, which a State Department spokeswoman called “measured and moderate.”


They will not report that neither Russia nor the separatists in eastern Ukraine have anything to gain but everything to lose by shooting down a passenger liner full of civilians.


They will not report that the Ukrainian government has much to gain by pinning the attack on Russia, and that the Ukrainian prime minister has already expressed his pleasure that Russia is being blamed for the attack.


They will not report that the missile that apparently shot down the plane was from a sophisticated surface-to-air missile system that requires a good deal of training that the separatists do not have.


They will not report that the separatists in eastern Ukraine have inflicted considerable losses on the Ukrainian government in the week before the plane was downed.


They will not report how similar this is to last summer’s US claim that the Assad government in Syria had used poison gas against civilians in Ghouta. Assad was also gaining the upper hand in his struggle with US-backed rebels and the US claimed that the attack came from Syrian government positions. Then, US claims led us to the brink of another war in the Middle East. At the last minute public opposition forced Obama to back down – and we have learned since then that US claims about the gas attack were false.

Of course it is entirely possible that the Obama administration and the US media has it right this time, and Russia or the separatists in eastern Ukraine either purposely or inadvertently shot down this aircraft. The real point is, it's very difficult to get accurate information so everybody engages in propaganda. At this point it would be unwise to say the Russians did it, the Ukrainian government did it, or the rebels did it. Is it so hard to simply demand a real investigation?

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Pladizow's picture

I can guarantee you that who ever did it was doing on behalf of an elitist!

Manthong's picture

“My country, right or wrongly backing Nazis, genocide and ethnic cleansing!”

-Obama/Kerry/Noodleman Patriot

Anusocracy's picture

America, from Land of the Free to Pond Scum in 200 years.

666's picture

Since the sheeple only believe in propaganda, wouldn't it be interesting if the Russians launched their own paid for propaganda blitz in the American MSM? Right now, Putin makes logical intelligent comments and questions that are not heard by the sheeple.

BLOTTO's picture

It was a good start by RP, but i think he is being too vague with his questions/points.


I think we can come up with 6-10 more appropriate questions based on some of the facts that we know...of which some have been asked on this very thread.


'Why did flight MH17 fly not only over a war zone, but, 200 km off course?'

Just this^ one question alone blows the 5-6 RP points.

ZerOhead's picture

And at 33,000 feet (10km)... 2,000 feet below the airline's officially requested 35,000 ft.

Gee... I wonder what the service cieling of a Ukrainian Su-25 like the two shot down earlier are...


Almost forgot... did they find anyone who saw or photogtraphed the Buk missile smoke trail yet? No? 

Here let me help... you can't miss them... they look like this...


And OMG... you are never in a million years going to believe who is in charge of security at Amsterdams Schiphol Airport... 

Yup... you guessed it.

Liberal's picture

As a staunch liberal, I fully agree and support Ron Paul and his views.


What?  He's a libertarian?  What's that? 


Oh...Okay.  I am against Ron Paul.

ZerOhead's picture

Fuck the labels... he's a decent man.

Not a lot of those around these days...

MillionDollarBonus_'s picture

I strongly believe that as the world’s greatest superpower, it is our duty to maintain peace and stability around the world. What Russia is doing in Ukraine is absolutely unacceptable and for me this tragic airline shooting just seals the deal. The time for ‘investigations’ is over. Russia has gone too far, and we need to act now in order to quell this uprising and stabilize Ukraine.

Elvis the Pelvis's picture

Obama is actually doing a good job with this crisis.  He's paying lip service by bad-mouthing Putin.  But he's washing his hands of the matter.  No meaningful sanctions.  No weapons to the Ukranians.  No boots on the ground.  So why complain?  Bitchez.

fervent in spirit's picture

Tyler, please take this blog pimper off ... again. (How many accounts does he have anyway?)

Thought Processor's picture



Dear Ron-

Thanks for standing up to all the bullshit that flows out of D.C.

Lore's picture

Here is the July 18 RP interview c/o Ron Paul Institute:

Don't Blame Putin for Malaysian Shootdown (scroll halfway down the page for audio)

The Alarmist's picture

You're probably safer walking the streets of Donestk than you might be in Chicago, Camden, Detroit, or DC. At least 300k invaders have literally walked across the southern US border since the beginning of 2014. One can only wonder what is really in the national interest.

83_vf_1100_c's picture

  My theory is that he is a college student who is in a competition with his frat buds to see who can get the most downvotes in x days without getting banned. No normal human could do sarcasm this lomg unremarked upon by it's author. Maybe Steven Wright?

yogy999's picture

Awesome the analogy! I love this place!

yogy999's picture

Awesome the analogy!! I love this place!!

Keyser's picture

When MH-17 went down my first thought was which US alphabet soup agency was behind it... Putin is not this stupid, but on the other hand the US has proven their ineptitude over and over again... 

disabledvet's picture

Well it did cause Israel to do probably the dumbest thing in its history.

It's RIP for RP to say Ukraine did it. We've certified ourselves as fringe here and backing Poopie Pants just ain't gonna fly (so to speak.)

There's too much reality right now anyways. It ain't like Ukraine has called for a cease fire. And Israel is about to have their iron dome breeched.

"Say good night Gracie."

stant's picture

What super power is that sir? Looks like to me we have several regionals trying act like one

barre-de-rire's picture

please, close your account here  go spread your mouth fuck shit in the asshole of FOX/CNN eye-shit viewers.


you have zero impact here.


+ 5 readers on the page who gonna get guillotined.

DerdyBulls's picture

Million Dollar Butthead - "I strongly believe that as the world’s greatest superpower, it is our duty to maintain peace and stability around the world."

And when the country defaults on the debt or it gets paid by mass inflation theft, since this inane, meglaamaniac, narcissistic, psychopathic, homicidal policy mindset of yours is inherently aggressive and affects my wellbeing, I hope you will come out of your corner of cowardice and promptly accept the mouth busting you deserve.

PoliticalRefugeefromCalif.'s picture

..another masterpiece MDB.. (golf clap) but with entusiasm!

Yes_Questions's picture



Ever seen a kid in a high-chair knock over her cereal, or drop food on the floor...


specifically to get a reaction from mom and/or dad?


that's why, kinda.


shovelhead's picture

I'm with you MDB...


Release the hounds.

JB's picture

Ron Paul is a 33rd degree Freemason, playing his role as agent provocateur...

hobopants's picture

Better loosen the tin foil a bit there bud.

DeadFred's picture

It's a free country. He can say any fool thing, unbacked by evidence, that he wants, especially if he's a trollbot.

Dakota Kid's picture

It's a free country.

If you are an illegal alien

JB's picture

Ad hominem... Come at me better than that.

ZerOhead's picture

That's a good one to send to our friends who still buy the MSM propaganda and think we're nuts.

Well they think I'm nuts anyway... (and they could be right)

CheapBastard's picture

“Hang ‘m now!....we can always give 'm a fair trial later…” the crowd jeered….

CheapBastard's picture

“Hang ‘m now!....we can always give 'm a fair trial later…” the crowd jeered….

CH1's picture

That's a good one to send to our friends who still buy the MSM propaganda and think we're nuts.

Yep, one peak outside the Matrix after another, after another, after another. Just keep on keepin' on.

Over time, they find ways to wake up.

shovelhead's picture

I'll bet if you stubbed your toe, you'd call that "genocide" too.

Better go look in a dictionary.


MontgomeryScott's picture

@ 'Truthseeker2':

Your link's already been sent down the memory hole.

Tried it, and got a '404'.

They are working feverishly to delete any info regarding the TRUTH, and this might be one of these cases. There ARE other links, though, and other websites, and people are caching this story and mirroring it.

BLOTTO's picture

'Almost forgot... did they find anyone who saw or photographed the Buk missile smoke trail yet? No?'


Great point Zhead.

With this day and age of cell phones/cameras - you would think someone got a photograph of the noticeably long smoke plume from a S to A missile. Especially for 'them', as is it helps 'their' story...

ZerOhead's picture

I'm sure it was caught by the US spy satellite that was quite possibly conveniently and directly overhead at the time. (That's easy to confirm btw...)

They'll probably release the pictures at the same time they release those air traffic recordings that show the plane wasn't redirected by Ukrainian air traffic control to a lower altitude and 200 km north that they have been sitting on for the past 4 days...

Urban Redneck's picture

If the Russians have video of the plane at 5000m from the airport in Rostov on Don, then if there was an exhaust plume from a SAM- it would also be visible.

"The presence of the Ukrainian combat jet can be confirmed by video shots made by the Rostov monitoring center, Kartopolov stated."

Eyeballing a map it looks like about 100km, so either the Russians have some really high end video cameras (like the quality they mount in satellites, or they're not telling the the whole truth in re means and methods