This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
Ron Paul: What The Press Isn't Reporting About The MH17 Disaster
Authored by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute,
Just days after the tragic crash of a Malaysian Airlines flight over eastern Ukraine, Western politicians and media joined together to gain the maximum propaganda value from the disaster. It had to be Russia; it had to be Putin, they said. President Obama held a press conference to claim – even before an investigation – that it was pro-Russian rebels in the region who were responsible. His ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, did the same at the UN Security Council – just one day after the crash!
While western media outlets rush to repeat government propaganda on the event, there are a few things they will not report.
They will not report that the crisis in Ukraine started late last year, when EU and US-supported protesters plotted the overthrow of the elected Ukrainian president, Viktor Yanukovych. Without US-sponsored “regime change,” it is unlikely that hundreds would have been killed in the unrest that followed. Nor would the Malaysian Airlines crash have happened.
The media has reported that the plane must have been shot down by Russian forces or Russian-backed separatists, because the missile that reportedly brought down the plane was Russian made. But they will not report that the Ukrainian government also uses the exact same Russian-made weapons.
They will not report that the post-coup government in Kiev has, according to OSCE monitors, killed 250 people in the breakaway Lugansk region since June, including 20 killed as government forces bombed the city center the day after the plane crash! Most of these are civilians and together they roughly equal the number killed in the plane crash. By contrast, Russia has killed no one in Ukraine, and the separatists have struck largely military, not civilian, targets.
They will not report that the US has strongly backed the Ukrainian government in these attacks on civilians, which a State Department spokeswoman called “measured and moderate.”
They will not report that neither Russia nor the separatists in eastern Ukraine have anything to gain but everything to lose by shooting down a passenger liner full of civilians.
They will not report that the Ukrainian government has much to gain by pinning the attack on Russia, and that the Ukrainian prime minister has already expressed his pleasure that Russia is being blamed for the attack.
They will not report that the missile that apparently shot down the plane was from a sophisticated surface-to-air missile system that requires a good deal of training that the separatists do not have.
They will not report that the separatists in eastern Ukraine have inflicted considerable losses on the Ukrainian government in the week before the plane was downed.
They will not report how similar this is to last summer’s US claim that the Assad government in Syria had used poison gas against civilians in Ghouta. Assad was also gaining the upper hand in his struggle with US-backed rebels and the US claimed that the attack came from Syrian government positions. Then, US claims led us to the brink of another war in the Middle East. At the last minute public opposition forced Obama to back down – and we have learned since then that US claims about the gas attack were false.
Of course it is entirely possible that the Obama administration and the US media has it right this time, and Russia or the separatists in eastern Ukraine either purposely or inadvertently shot down this aircraft. The real point is, it's very difficult to get accurate information so everybody engages in propaganda. At this point it would be unwise to say the Russians did it, the Ukrainian government did it, or the rebels did it. Is it so hard to simply demand a real investigation?
»
- 96878 reads
- Printer-friendly version
- Send to friend
- advertisements -
Bluto did it.
I can guarantee you that who ever did it was doing on behalf of an elitist!
“My country, right or wrongly backing Nazis, genocide and ethnic cleansing!”
-Obama/Kerry/Noodleman Patriot
America, from Land of the Free to Pond Scum in 200 years.
Since the sheeple only believe in propaganda, wouldn't it be interesting if the Russians launched their own paid for propaganda blitz in the American MSM? Right now, Putin makes logical intelligent comments and questions that are not heard by the sheeple.
It was a good start by RP, but i think he is being too vague with his questions/points.
.
I think we can come up with 6-10 more appropriate questions based on some of the facts that we know...of which some have been asked on this very thread.
i.e.,
'Why did flight MH17 fly not only over a war zone, but, 200 km off course?'
Just this^ one question alone blows the 5-6 RP points.
And at 33,000 feet (10km)... 2,000 feet below the airline's officially requested 35,000 ft.
Gee... I wonder what the service cieling of a Ukrainian Su-25 like the two shot down earlier are...
http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_su25_en.php
Almost forgot... did they find anyone who saw or photogtraphed the Buk missile smoke trail yet? No?
Here let me help... you can't miss them... they look like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSXMhaFntrU
And OMG... you are never in a million years going to believe who is in charge of security at Amsterdams Schiphol Airport...
Yup... you guessed it.
As a staunch liberal, I fully agree and support Ron Paul and his views.
...
What? He's a libertarian? What's that?
Oh...Okay. I am against Ron Paul.
Fuck the labels... he's a decent man.
Not a lot of those around these days...
I strongly believe that as the world’s greatest superpower, it is our duty to maintain peace and stability around the world. What Russia is doing in Ukraine is absolutely unacceptable and for me this tragic airline shooting just seals the deal. The time for ‘investigations’ is over. Russia has gone too far, and we need to act now in order to quell this uprising and stabilize Ukraine.
sarcasm or full retard?
Welcome to fight club.
Obama is actually doing a good job with this crisis. He's paying lip service by bad-mouthing Putin. But he's washing his hands of the matter. No meaningful sanctions. No weapons to the Ukranians. No boots on the ground. So why complain? Bitchez.
Tyler, please take this blog pimper off ... again. (How many accounts does he have anyway?)
Dear Ron-
Thanks for standing up to all the bullshit that flows out of D.C.
Here is the July 18 RP interview c/o Ron Paul Institute:
Don't Blame Putin for Malaysian Shootdown (scroll halfway down the page for audio)
You're probably safer walking the streets of Donestk than you might be in Chicago, Camden, Detroit, or DC. At least 300k invaders have literally walked across the southern US border since the beginning of 2014. One can only wonder what is really in the national interest.
My theory is that he is a college student who is in a competition with his frat buds to see who can get the most downvotes in x days without getting banned. No normal human could do sarcasm this lomg unremarked upon by it's author. Maybe Steven Wright?
Awesome the analogy! I love this place!
Awesome the analogy!! I love this place!!
When MH-17 went down my first thought was which US alphabet soup agency was behind it... Putin is not this stupid, but on the other hand the US has proven their ineptitude over and over again...
Well it did cause Israel to do probably the dumbest thing in its history.
It's RIP for RP to say Ukraine did it. We've certified ourselves as fringe here and backing Poopie Pants just ain't gonna fly (so to speak.)
There's too much reality right now anyways. It ain't like Ukraine has called for a cease fire. And Israel is about to have their iron dome breeched.
"Say good night Gracie."
You must be new here
- Delete double post -
Retard
What super power is that sir? Looks like to me we have several regionals trying act like one
FLIGHT MH17 – Kiev Flash Mob’s Final False Flag?
please, close your account here go spread your mouth fuck shit in the asshole of FOX/CNN eye-shit viewers.
you have zero impact here.
+ 5 readers on the page who gonna get guillotined.
Million Dollar Butthead - "I strongly believe that as the world’s greatest superpower, it is our duty to maintain peace and stability around the world."
And when the country defaults on the debt or it gets paid by mass inflation theft, since this inane, meglaamaniac, narcissistic, psychopathic, homicidal policy mindset of yours is inherently aggressive and affects my wellbeing, I hope you will come out of your corner of cowardice and promptly accept the mouth busting you deserve.
..another masterpiece MDB.. (golf clap) but with entusiasm!
Just a meat thrower. But why?
Ever seen a kid in a high-chair knock over her cereal, or drop food on the floor...
specifically to get a reaction from mom and/or dad?
that's why, kinda.
I'm with you MDB...
Smithers!
Release the hounds.
Ron Paul is a 33rd degree Freemason, playing his role as agent provocateur...
Better loosen the tin foil a bit there bud.
It's a free country. He can say any fool thing, unbacked by evidence, that he wants, especially if he's a trollbot.
It's a free country.
If you are an illegal alien
Ad hominem... Come at me better than that.
What Did US Spy Satellites See in Ukraine?
That's a good one to send to our friends who still buy the MSM propaganda and think we're nuts.
Well they think I'm nuts anyway... (and they could be right)
“Hang ‘m now!....we can always give 'm a fair trial later…” the crowd jeered….
“Hang ‘m now!....we can always give 'm a fair trial later…” the crowd jeered….
That's a good one to send to our friends who still buy the MSM propaganda and think we're nuts.
Yep, one peak outside the Matrix after another, after another, after another. Just keep on keepin' on.
Over time, they find ways to wake up.
This is not a war against the terrorists. This is classic genocide of
civilians, on a national basis:
http://cs616026.vk.me/v616026968/1b58d/SJ2fgUdxEuY.jpg
http://img7.tempfile.ru/13199/00306fdac2/3db765b77ecd66494d031ace.jpg
I'll bet if you stubbed your toe, you'd call that "genocide" too.
Better go look in a dictionary.
@ 'Truthseeker2':
Your link's already been sent down the memory hole.
Tried it, and got a '404'.
They are working feverishly to delete any info regarding the TRUTH, and this might be one of these cases. There ARE other links, though, and other websites, and people are caching this story and mirroring it.
'Almost forgot... did they find anyone who saw or photographed the Buk missile smoke trail yet? No?'
.
Great point Zhead.
With this day and age of cell phones/cameras - you would think someone got a photograph of the noticeably long smoke plume from a S to A missile. Especially for 'them', as is it helps 'their' story...
I'm sure it was caught by the US spy satellite that was quite possibly conveniently and directly overhead at the time. (That's easy to confirm btw...)
They'll probably release the pictures at the same time they release those air traffic recordings that show the plane wasn't redirected by Ukrainian air traffic control to a lower altitude and 200 km north that they have been sitting on for the past 4 days...
If the Russians have video of the plane at 5000m from the airport in Rostov on Don, then if there was an exhaust plume from a SAM- it would also be visible.
"The presence of the Ukrainian combat jet can be confirmed by video shots made by the Rostov monitoring center, Kartopolov stated."
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140721/191080767/Russian-Military-Says-Detected...
Eyeballing a map it looks like about 100km, so either the Russians have some really high end video cameras (like the quality they mount in satellites, or they're not telling the the whole truth in re means and methods
The script is being written as we write...and it will be played out when told.
So far, "good" side is pointing fingers; and "bad" side is being vague. Together they mind-fuck us. (You can change good-bad around if so desired).
Take three steps back and look again...
and beware of the invincible hand, stirring.
Nah, those satellites were zeroed in on a lesbian porn shoot.
........giddeeup..
Gee, isn't that the same airport where the underwear bomber was basically escorted onto the plane?
Found this:
Was MH17 Sabotaged By An Israeli
Security Team At Amsterdam
Schiphol Airport?
http://www.rense.com/general96/MH17.html
Damn lucky guess!
You can never discount an ISIS terrorist bomb either.
It's not like they had a heads-up for their bloody ground offensive of peace that was launched 15 minutes after the downing of MH17 to take some heat off or anything...
Wow.. The two biggest stories in a couple of months happening at the same time. Imagine that.
It's like Rummy announcing the Pentagon missing $2.3T bucks on 9/10 and the next day the Pentagon is victimized by those Saudi terrorists.
Anyway I'm sure Obama is soon going to release those 28 pages so we can finally get to the bottom of things...
..Anyway I'm sure Obama is soon going to release those 28 pages so we can finally get to the bottom of things...
I like your optimism!- kid's got spunk!
The BBC fellow today on NPR asked some good questions of the Ukrainian rep on the radio [who keep blaming Russia every second sentence]. he asked why at least two Ukrainian fighter jets were so close to a civilian airliner an dif they were so close cannot it expalin a possible mistake by whomever fired the missle [implying some group was aiming at the two Uke flighter jets].
Interesting interview ... the BBVC fellow even asked the Uke rep why Uke forced launched an offensive today right in the middle of the investigation. The BBC guy said the Uke forces will surely interfere with any investigation.
It's not just Schiphol. They' re in charge of 'security' at most western airports. I feel so safe. How the hell does something like this happen? Seriously.
why 33000? it's a signal.
and Schiphol airport? it's about as secure as software that comes from the same shitty little country. but sometimes it's best to pretend you believe so that you can get intelligence on your enemies. in much the same way the certain folk are 'allowed' to come to nz for 'tourism' and 'working holidays'.
......I don't think pictures or eyewitness accounts mean much, haven't for a long time..... thousands of Americans watched an American 747 get nailed by two (2) SAMs and fall into the sea in thier own back yard ......literally ....and.... nadda........ of course this time it's different.... or not
TWA 800
Good point...
ICTS
Did somebody say VAGUE?
Here's the new paradigm my friend:
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-07-17/abstract-speakings-power...
I believe the dynamic is: US "journalists" prize access, scoops, plum dinner party invitations and a feeling of being part of the in-crowd in NYCDC. You get those things by acting as a US government propaganda conduit. Putin can't bid for their services, because he does not have the goods to pay them. Sure, the Russian embassy can throw dinner parties and give out access and such, but they can't compete with the US elites on the latter's home turf.
"logical intelligent comments and questions"
may not be the best strategy to use on an American population that has been dumbed down so much by 'schooling'.
They might have to go with scantily clad Russian babes in ads and promises of free vodka instead
"Since the sheeple only believe in propaganda, wouldn't it be interesting if the Russians launched their own paid for propaganda blitz in the American MSM? "
Yeah, it would interesting but they already have one. It's called ZH.
You sound jealous.
MODERN AMERICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN GENOCIDAL MANIACS MATE....
THE ONLY COUNTRY FOUNDED ON A GENOCIDE...OH WAIT PLUS ISRAEL...WHAT A NICE BUNCH.
WAKE UP AMERICANS YOU'RE THE NAZIS OF THE DAY!!! HISTORY WILL JUDGE YOU VERY BADLY UNLESS YOU TURN THIS DISASTER AROUND AND SOON!!!
Ponder this question...
is it better to live inside an evil empire or outside?
If you are an unprincipled suck-up, inside.
So true... but when you expatiate to a nice place outside the evil empire they come and destabilize that country too.
Decisions... decisions
a song for you
That global fiat reserve currency scam thing they have going is making great stuff a hell of a lot cheaper for us too...
Damn... I'm getting soooo conflicted here.
I wonder what all those poor hard working Chinese would do... would they sacrifice their morals for big expensive houses, luxury cars and one of the highest standards of living in the world?
Oh fuck.... WHAT ARE WE DOING?
Wenn Amerika nicht gäbe, können Sie diese Nachricht lesen können würde.
translation.... If America did not exist, would you be able to read this message.
wenn Sie weiners mochte sein würde Deutsch
If America did not exist we would not live in a worse place.
If America did not exist, the world would be a worse place.
Fixed it.
Wrong. That is the same meme that Krugman uses that extrapolates the past 150 years of persistent economic growth indefinitely into the future.
We are in the beginning stages of a massive paradigm shift that is fundamentally diametrically opposed to the past 150 years of persistent growth.
Betting on the same model for growth of the past 150 years is a bet on a losing horse. America is hell bent on maintaining the status quo of the past 150 years lower left to upper right on the charts of energy production and technology that consumes it.
hmmmm. WWI was already fought to a stalemate by the time we joined in the festivities. We won the war for the allies, which resulted in redrawing the map of the middle east, a large part of wy there is so much violence there, same with africa. Our conduct with grmany ensured WWII happened. Because WWII happened, Korea happened too. There wouldnt have been a million killed in and around vietnam either. All that mess in bosnia/kosovo wouldn't have happened. There wouldnt be mayhem and murder all over central america due to a 'war on drugs' either. a couple million iraqis and afghans and pakis and yemenis and libyans, etc would also still be alive
i am not a nazi, at all, germans play nicely soocer, i prefer belgium beer ( best of the world ) but i cant prevent to think if russia didnt fought in WW2 usa would never appeared with churchill sticked in the ass to say hello world at normandy, and finally 70 years later we would not have a fucking muslin in whole europ, except under the tables to clean the plates.
girls would still be nicely educated, white & clean, end debates about pork meat would never happened, and any palestinian/israelian conflict would never crush in south paris for a fucking copy paste sub-urb groups, coz we would never have neigher of them.... problem is we would all speak german & wear uniforms & all would be zoophilians SM.... i don't know what is the worst between the projection & the actual situation.
life sometime... when you think about all what your could get & what you missed.... /S
I used to get in "king of the hill" fights with neighbor kids who would say, "the way you think we would all be speaking German right now you Nazi fuck". lol I would reply, "what difference does it make which language that we speak?" I understand patriotism of race better than patriotism of language.
I used to go to bars, get drunk and get in fights alot when I was younger. If I was in a bar that was predominately a race other than White and there was a boxing match on the television where say a Latino and a Black were opponents who do you think the Latinos are rooting for? Vice-versa, in a predominately Black bar do you think many Blacks are rooting against the Black fighter in favor of the Latino? White males routinely root against their own race. Why do you think this is? I think this is because of government and corporate indoctrination that has been ongoing for decades. Western countries demographics went flat to negative in the 60's and Government growth could no longer be extrapolated indefinitely into the future without non-White immigration. Brainwashing mission has been accomplished for decades in the West.
I knew "speaking german" spouting kids growing up too.
They sure loved their American Dream and in my 'hood it was in full-throttle Keeping Up With The Johnsons.
It was the 70's. Upper middle class white-flight neighborhood w/ 4 kids and a housewife in each home.
ahh the halcyon dazed and confused, days..
Evil empires are run by psychopaths.
Eventually they destroy everyone, outside and inside the empire.
Americans aren't particularly worse than other groups of people, they just have more opportunities to be worse.
The WPC must be taking a break.
"THE ONLY COUNTRY FOUNDED ON A GENOCIDE"
Absurd. The formation of many, if not most have come from invaders.
And all invaders were genocide dealers, preaching on the natural rights theory. It is human condition.
Has there ever been a day in history that countries were not at war?
With all the advancements of civilization isn't it sad that men still kill men as we did 50,000 years ago.
Barbaric we are!
- Yoda
Bonus Yoda - “In a dark place we find ourselves, and a little more knowledge lights our way.”
"THE ONLY COUNTRY FOUNDED ON A GENOCIDE"
You sir are a retard, while I agree that the governments of many countries put a hurting on the indiginous population you may want to look around to see where the fuck heads that did the beat down came from. Now you want to talk about the whole of Europe and it's multiple conquest.
.."THE ONLY COUNTRY FOUNDED ON A GENOCIDE"..
Probably copied that straight out of a current American hist. textbook- (that would explain the all caps).
you speak as though the average american citizen has ANY say about ANYTHING this country does.
perhaps you should pay attention.
This is the whole point. A tiny elite has seized permanent power in America and does as it pleases. The electoral changes in Congress, Senate and Presidencies are just window dressing for the masses.
"you speak as though the average american citizen has ANY say about ANYTHING this country does."
I understand your point, but have to disagree.
There are far more of us than 'them'. The parasite psychopath minority can only carry out their evil ways if the majority carries it out for them. The majority ends up being their own oppressors.
Of course, this is why the majority are brainwashed in 'schools', by the media, by popular culture, by the attitudes they are taught by clueless relatives and peers. In the movie by the same name, it was said that the Matrix is a prison for our minds. And that is very true.
If we could snap our fingers and have everyone in the country understand the way things really work . . . this 'Matrix' would end overnight.
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford
We are just comfortable enough. With just enough fear of rocking the boat thrown in for good measure. They have done a good job at that.
If you want to look at genocide take a hard look at England, Canada and Australia they all put a big dent in a few indigenous populations, mate…..But what European county has not...bunch of killers...
I believe Putin and Ron Paul here.
O is trying to just carry out his agenda by bankrupting the country by getting involved in too much at any one time while playing golf.
American people are the salt of the Earth. People that try anyway. The world looks up to us. They have for the last 200 + years. Its the power hungry freaks that get elected the world hates. there is a distinction.
+100
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2013/11/06/obama-im-really-good-at-killing-people-n1740214
"American people are the salt of the Earth."
Maybe 200 years ago, but not today.
Today's Americans are gutless soul-less self-indulged self-centered asses. 99% of Americans would take a govt job or military job or govt contractor job or main stream media job working against the constitution, selling out their fellow Americans, and they would be happy to do it. Look how many do it now, millions of them.
That's a society not worth saving in my opinion.
Yes it will collapse under its own weight eventually. Empires this corrupt don't last forever, and I believe we're in the last days of this corrupt empire.
And yes we'll go down with it. The people always do.
Their genes. They are meat puppets.
Who did it?"
Depends on your definition of "did"
I can guarantee a Ukrainian did this. Why? Listen to Poroschenko and the Ukrainian nationalists. The separatists are just disillusioned UKRAINIANS who've been bamboozled by Russia.
Why on earth did Kiev allow commercial traffic over a warzone has yet to be explained.
No wonder Poroschenko's fellow Ukrainians want to jump ship... can't say I blame them.
he ought to inform his son.
Have to give the sheeple something to graze on...
YouTube...Edward Bernays would be in awe.
pretty sure Bernay's estate has voting stock and a rep with a seat on the board... just sayin'...
...peace...
yes so it seems, after all Obama's New Cold War upon Vlad Putins's Russia requires a significant amount of propaganda at a moments notice.
Valid for 6 decades.
" We shall never have a secure peace or a happy world so long as Soviet Communism dominates one-third of all the peoples."
John Foster Dulles , 1953
Obama's New Cold War? I don't give him credit for thinking that far ahead. Mostly, I see Obama trying to distract everyone from the fact that 'his' CIA and State Department destabilized Ukraine in the first place. Just like after Benghazi, they're flinging chaff in every direction, to deflect uncomfortable questions.
Thank you Ron Paul, once again!
We were begging people in 2008 to give him a chance, but everyone seemed fixated on the skin color of a certain candidate...
The R-team did everything in their power to sideline him, and then threw McCain at that candidate you mentioned.
That reminds us: Fuck you Karl "Turd Blossom" Rove!!!!
Hey, "Turd blossom" is my identical, less hammy brother.
You say "Fuck you" with some respect.......or don't.
The treatment of Dr Paul is the reason I refuse to watch any MSM. They demonized a good man so we could end up with a charlatan in the White House.
Fuck every one of you propagandist cocksucking jizz swilling MSM whores. Fuck you
Let us name names! First on our list is George Stephanopoolos. Remember how that little pole-smokin' shill treated Dr. Paul? Then there is Greta van Whatsername and FOX. Ron was on his cell-phone for an interview when gosh golly gee the line done went dead making him look like a fool on live TV. Never forget.
The pole-smokers who really suck are the "republican party," which is neither republican nor parties.
thats becuase they would rather have obama in office than ron paul. ROn Paul is credible when he says 'no more' to the 'war on everything' we are waging right now. obama was just a charlatan, an empty suit doing others bidding. R/D, doesnt matter, both of them do the same shit. In many ways, obama is the best president the MIC/neocons could have asked for. He does pretty much all the same unconstitutional, militaristic, evil things bush did, and has presided over a steady increase in spending on this shit. However, now that its Obama in office, all you here is silence from the anti-war left. not a peep. I watched MSNBC back when they were trying to drum up support for attacking Syria, and all these people on that show who called bush a war criminal and a nazi we sitting there justifying everything obama wanted to do on "humanitarian" grounds, and dropping eexcuse after excuse cuz it was the enlighted one doing it this time, so its not murder based on lies, its 'humanitarian relief'. You would have heard the same cries from the left had mccain won, but they got an 8 year hall pass from the left with obama doing it
You just don't like him because you're racist. Therein ends all rational discourse.
You should have spent more time begging him to run as an independent. Running as a republican was a silly exercise doomed to failure and he knew it.
Only stateman left in the US. Last man standing, the other are bunch of pussies sold cheap to special interests.
Dear Dr. Paul,
We love you. Please don't take up kitesurfing.
Sincerely,
ZH
My question is:
Why was Malaysia airlines flying over a war zone?
after all, the only planes in the air over that region are military, and only an idiot would fly a civilian passenger jet over such an area.
Why was Malaysia airlines flying over a war zone?
- because Kiev said - it was safe here and USA changed route due to some "storm" somewhere...
I bet Malaysia is kicking themselves about now for not buying the hack-proof software package that prevents the remote control takeover. It was only a $1,500 dollar upgrade too.
Why would Malaysians care about innocent Dutchmen? Malaysians don't care about the truth. Haven't we already learned this with that other flight earlier the year.
After the relative silence that came from Malaysia after the 370 disappearance, taking one down "by accident" was calculated to go without much blow back. After all, its their own fault as they obviously made a wrong turn somewhere....right?
Couldn't possibly have anything to do with this could it?
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2012/05/12/bush-convicted-of-war-cri...
Since we knw there is no difference between R & D, was this a Libya-like slam at TPTB,
only on a moral/political ground rather than economic?
Now THAT is what they call MOTIVE in the business...
Isn't Sotoro a Malyasian surname?
Yes, Pilgrim, the rabbit hole is deep.......
You mean the anti-phalsephlagging option? Sort of like anti-phishing, but to prevent mass identity loss as opposed to identity theft.
Ugh, I'm so sick of his level-headed rationality and his constant truth-telling.
There is no honest reporting in a fascist state. Once you acknowledge that this is fascism now, media reporting takes on a whole new look. Don't care what the MSM has to say about anything, really.
On the weekend I heard the media claim that there were "uproars from Dutch family members about the bodies being moved". Again, no family members were interviewed, just MSM planting ideas to incite emotion.
USSA constant jawboning, with zero leadership.
Sorry Ron, these people are not interested in real investigations.
Ron Paul, 2016.
It could happen, if We The People make it happen.
I wish. However, We the People vs We the Free Shit Army has only one outcome these days sadly.
Ron Paul is a great man. He would have made a fabulous president. That he was marginalized by the Republicans is unconscionable. I will never vote again until this tyrannical sludge occupying DC is purged, be it by votes or bloodbath.
Miffed;-)
"Presidents are selected, not elected."
FDR
If you will never vote again then how can voting ever take them out.
The Free Shit Army just added a Taco Corps.
Democracy is three bro's and a suburban bread winner deciding who pays for dinner.
Most Americans are pussies so it won't happen.
What the press isn't reporting are the PTB involved.
ALL Western media is Operation Mockingbird.
Now more than ever
Geez Ron, why such a party pooper - 'lets be reasonable', 'lets use our heads here', 'lets have a legitimate investigation before deciding who to blame' - for fuck sake that's not how its done, pick up a fucking flag and get with the damn program man. No wonder you didn't get elected president.
I know its /sarc...but damn
He just doesn't fully understand how to capitalize in the use of a crisis.
This is not a time for solutions or explanations, its a time to kick your opponent in the head while they are down. Its a time to take control of the "message", pointing out the evil empires that threaten our evil empire.
We just got to figure out whos side we are on, because at some point we will be forced to choose. You can bet on it. And as always, it will be the perceived lesser of evils, as it always has been.
'lets be reasonable', 'lets use our heads here',
_______________________________
Paul lived off seducing the 'american' middle class. As such, he is trained in any trick necessary to seduce the 'american' middle class that do not wish reality, but fantasy.
Paul is the fancied 'american' man of reason, the way 'americans' want that to be.
Paul before anything else is 'american'.
His piece only exists to rub the feathers of his followers. His piece relies on 'american' reason, intellectualism or whatever appeals to 'americans'.
Once this is stated, for one, Paul argues that Russia or the Russians in Ukraine would have nothing to gain from the move. Then in the last lines, Paul states that the shot might have be taken by mistake. Lining up a cui bono argument works for people who act purposedly.
It is just one example among some others. 'Americans' have this art for propaganda. They always stuff their speech with contradiction in order to submit the recipients to a litmus test.
Paul is 'american'. It takes an 'american' to see in this piece an act of reason.
+1 for the most incoherent rambling of the day