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After Delta Reroutes Flight Into Israel, 5 Other Airlines Suspend Flights To Tel Aviv On Missile Worries
Update: U.S. FLIGHTS TO ISRAEL HALTED BY FAA
About two hours ago, and in the aftermath of the public outcry regarding flights in conflict zones, first Delta then most other major international carriers announced they would suspend flights to Israel "until further notice" amid concerns that a rocket landed near Ben Gurion International Airport in Tel Aviv. The list of confirmed airlines that have halted such flights is shown below.
- US Airways also said it has canceled two flights to and from Tel Aviv from Philadelphia.
- United Airlines canceled two flights from Newark to Tel Aviv, according to FlightAware.com.
- American Airlines told NBC News that it is meeting to discuss the situation.
- Lufthansa said there are no changes to its Tel Aviv flight schedules for now.
- British Airways said it continued to operate as normal but is monitoring the situation.
- KLM said it was meeting to discuss the issue.
According to NBC, "the move comes amid heightened concerns over the safety of passenger aircraft flying over war zones. A Malaysian Air Lines jet with 298 aboard was brought down as it was flying over contested Ukrainian territory. The White House said the Federal Aviation Administration has not issued any notices about flights over the Middle East. Israeli police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld told NBC News there is no event to the best of his knowledge taking place now at Ben Gurion. He said he believes the Delta cancellation probably came after a rocket fell 3 miles from the airport earlier Tuesday."
The flight redirection is shown most vividly in the following flight pattern of Delta flight 468 from New York to Tel Aviv (via Flightradar24) which was rerouted shortly before arrival and landed in Paris instead.
Meanwhile Israel says there is nothing to fear. From Bloomberg:
After US Air and Delta cancel flights scheduled to land in Israeli airport this evening, Transport Minister Israel Katz says Ben-Gurion safe for landings and take-offs, according to Aviation Authority. No concern for safety of planes or passengers.
For now, however, nobody is taking chances with another MH17 tragedy.
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What could possibly go wrong?
Leseee... If someone were to cause something to happen, and Hamas got the blame, maybe folks would quickly forget about those 600+ Nobel Peace Prize deaths in Gaza and become angry with the Palestinians... hmmmm, ya think?
With all the media lies and dissembling, NY finally and officially capitulates:
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/white-flags-mysteriously-appear-on-brookl...
that's just perfect.
Why would they halt flights? I don't see anything going on in Israel when I watch the MSM outlets.
Why would they halt flights? Its almost like they think some idiot just shot down a jet liner with a missile.
Oh wait....
oi vey
It is obviously OK for Palestine to indiscriminately fire missiles into Israel at will.
It is NOT OK for Israel to use pin point strikes to stop it?? Ohh. Why is it rarely mentioned how many rockets land in Israel?
This must be some version of pattie cakes, not anywhere is it mentioned around 200 a day land over there.
How to fix that?
Why not try carpet bombing their ass until the rockets stop flying?? Who ever is left alive will make sure no more rockets leave the area one would guess...
Perhaps then someone will carpet-bomb Israel to get them to stop carpeting-bombing. Sounds reasonable to me.
Why?
Better to get Hamas to stop placing their weapons systems amongst the civilian population so people stop getting killed. The Hamas leaders should be tried and convicted for war crimes for the way they have ensured that the people they are in charge of will be killed. It is sickening what the Hamas leaders are doing to their people.
How is that not the real story here?
The real story is the illegal occupation of Palestine by european scam artists with an identity crises.
This is not a current issue of Zionist versus Palestinian. It is an eternal issue of conqueror verses conquered.
Against whose law is it illegal to defeat an enemy that attacks you and take their land and women in retribution? That has been the way of the world forever. Whose law changed that, and give me an example of where it has ever been honored.
You're a barbaric MORON...
I wish I had a time machine to send you back to the dark ages, you zionist boot licker.
I totally agree! If someone just carpet bombed Israel, this conflict would end overnight.
You have contributed much to this discussion with such an insightful comment. Douche.
It would never have started if the Hamas leadership had not placed their weapons systems amongst the civilian population.
When a territory has a UN-granted right to call itself a country and to defend itself, they cannot be criticized for doing so. Israel is not responsible for so many civilian deaths. The Hamas leadership is, and should be held to account for it.
it would never have started if zionists handle stole land from the natives... fixed it for you.
When and where has land been stolen by Israel that was not obtained either by U.N. charter or by defeating an enemy that attacked them? Both of these that I mention are historically-legitimate means of acquiring land and women.
If you say they are not, then let us take the conversation back to where it should start - with the first Muslim overrun of much of Europe.
Israel has CONTINUOUSLY disrespected SEVERAL UN resolutions telling them to shut down settlements and not expand new ones.
The UN might have granted them Nation status in 1947, but since then THEY HAVE STOLEN PLENTY OF LAND from ALL their neighbors...
You must really have a SHORT memory ( or a selective one).
Your historial ignorance of the situation is clearly intended.
pretty sure they bought the vast majority of the land. Of course the Ottomans would only let them by unproductive land. The Brits let them buy what ever the 'natives' would sell
Good. Sanctions next. How about a no-fly zone. Isolate those fvckers.
(There are dissenting Israelis in Israel. Just like there are dissenters in the USA. )
Our administration's policies have insured global peace and tranquility for all.
You can almost FEEL the safety oozing out of every crack and crevice around the globe.
Safety smells a lot like a latrine.
Ooze is one of the first terms the pops into my mind whenever I think of El presidente zero.
And the same word I think of when Eric "Placeholder" opens his yap.
No, Eric 'My People' Holder to me signifies utter and unalloyed corruption without even a pretence of probity.
On a local bank they had three words on their window to entice customers to stop by and open a kickass account yielding .05% interest. The words? Control. Security. Freedom.
I read them backwards and thought of the declining liberty of the American citizen. Freedom. Security. Control. We are basically at the Control part.
Boomerangs, they are a flyin.
Kerry warned em, get out or take yr lumps
Don't blame any administration in particular. Remember, GWB was running against Kerry. Had Kerry actually won, the policies of the ensuing years would have been the same. Just look at Kerry's warmongering efforts now.
Nobody is taking the US serious anymore and no administration could change that perception.
When are the Israelis going to wake up and realize they are going to "meat grindered" out of the ME, in the end? And before all the "anti-Semite trolls" start popping off, hear me out!
12 year old kids in Gaza are making 70km-120km rockets with 100 pound warheads, in their basements on a daily basis now, drones are everywhere, technology and innovation has made whatever advantage the Jews had, almost non existent now! Anti tank weapons can destroy APC and light tanks like shooting fish in a barrel, and after 15 years of experience killing the Americans with IEDs, that tech is as lethal to a special forces unit, as anything on earth, as they found out on Sunday!
Their land "incursion" hasn't made it 3km into Gaza and they are losing a dozen men killed and 40-50 wounded every other day!! That is a meat grinder, if there has ever been one!!
Wait until the politics in the West Bank, and Lebanon get to much for peace to handle and they start lobbing rockets too, I mean if Hamas keeps inflicting these kind of military losses on the IDF, the rest of the zoo will have to join in, in fear of "bring left out" and "missing the fight!!
Then you got millions of newly radicalized Egyptians who want to fight and Iran probably has 5000-10000 kuds forces in there, just waiting to join the fight and gain combat experience!! It's a fucking no win battle at this point, and who is going to rearm them, as America gets weaker and weaker and the BRICS get stronger and stronger!!
The difference this time may be that the Israelis are willing to lose 10,000 dead and wounded to stop the missiles and now that the missiles can land anywhere, a ceasefire means nothing. That just means Hamas stops for now until they feel like starting up again or when they restock again. I guess you can say this time it's different.
almost as if you didn't even read his post...
The dirty secret is that it is in the best interest to a lot of those Arab states to have an Israeli state present. It has a consistant government, willingness to trade (and it does so through Cyprus), acts as a deterrent to would be major players rising (Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Iran) to create a hegemony. They can make all the lip service they want about the Jews, the Israelies, to keep their populations from actually rising up against them, since shifting societal unrest on external enemies has always been a reliable go-to-rule for dictators. Meanwhile they go home and call up their Jewish lawyers, their Jewish accountants, and their Jewish private educators for their kids.
Maybe Palestinians in Gaza wake up and ask where all those billions of dollars pledged by those Arab states dissapeared to? Or why hasn't their brothers, and cousins in the Arab world still refuse to grant any of them asylum?
The dirty secret is that it is in the best interest to Big Oil to have an Israeli state present.
Sure hope everybody is keeping track of who they sold/gave the anti-aircraft missiles too. They should be making follow up calls for inventory control too. Wouldn't want anything "unexpected" to happen with an anti-aircraft missile beyond, of course, the purpose for which it was originially intented.
Anything capable of shooting down an airliner at altitude would be quite noticable.
I was thinking more along the lines of landing and taking off. What the maximum altitude for a Stinker to hit something the size of a passenger plane?
3 miles and 14-15k'.
Water rocket?
I played with those as a kid.
See how DANGEROUS it is to have the COURAGE to live in Israel. They deserve our full support in blowing up kids, hospitals and such. How DO they endure? Nightmares of the blitz.
Hey as long as stawks r up, all is truly well in the world.
What next? False flag again in the USSA?
Count on it.
Yeah, been 13 years since the last one.
Mohammed will be along soon on his flying horse. Just catch a ride in with that guy, no biggie.
This would be a good time for Kerry to fly in to Tel Aviv for a State Visit.
Via Ukraine. Better odds.
Nah, Kerry will be going in up the Jordan on his swiftboat so he can pose for his Washington crosses the Delaware portrait.
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Sounds like license for Israel to really ramp up the operation to eradicate the rockets, as this action by DAL means: "We (and all foreign carriers) won't fly there until odds of a rocket attack are virtually zero." What is the range of a MANPAD anyway? Not that anybody could ever get close enough to Ben-Gurion...
I'm pretty sure they are not worried about Hamas rockets. They are more worried about being taken down by Israel and being the victimized pawn of another Israeli false flag attack.
Lot of airbourne Black Swans. As was said "What can go wrong?"
It is starting to get a little frightening when the world is slowly becoming a no fly zone.
Easier to end civilian use of jet fuel if you can get them to want to NOT fly.
Reminds me of how to get sailors to want to get off a nuclear submarine.
:)
But how will our politicians get to Tel Aviv for their photo ops.
Can we send them all by train?
Ferry them through the Mediterranean Sea in a research vessel.
Don't we need another couple of these airliners to get shot down so the DOW and S&P can continue to new fuckin highs??
Perhaps it would be nice if all flights from all countries into Israel were cancelled until the troops leave Gaza? Woud send a great message.
can you feel it
somethings in the air
or not.
folks chuck throwing ideas about kosher blood ritual the jews did this and that.
the goy need something big.
a nice bigger distraction
some thing all mossad can dance 2.
get the hate up russia today
the bad guys have been here all the time.
they now have 5 german nuclear subs given for free
a stupid dumb kraut guilt gift
based on a hollow hoax lie.
samson option the movie is called.
no need for agelina jolly,gorge clone ee or matt demon.
fuck the jews and all the demonic saturn number codes.
nobody ever asked over the years where did all the missing children go?
slaughtered in ritual served up back to the goy as burgers.
yum yum.
the jewish fellas are are saturns sons
Male Circumcision Alters the Brain of Its Victimshttp://www.zengardner.com/male-circumcision-alters-brain-victims/#
nope. nothing anti semitic here........
Israelis aren't semites, they're AshkenNAZI's ace. So says the DNA tests.
Arabs are semites too...
First good news in weeks.
I guess since planes have stopped flying in, they can take the train now. Should be like old times!
Well played. Well played indeed.
I would feel safer swimming in gasoline while smoking a cigarette than flying over Israel.
Those motherfuckers would happily shoot a plane and claim a Palestinian child did it by throwing rocks.
I might create another ZH account just to give you two +1's.
Is that necessary? I thought some had hacked the rating code so they can do what they want with just one account.
Queue the Malaysian Airlines flight From Kuala Lumpur to Mumbai diverted all the way over Israel due to "weather".
CiaNN and BBC (british bullshit corporation) will report that the plane was immediately shot down by kamikaze Palestinian donkey powered ICBMs. The warhead will have been composed of dust and rocks. WMDs indeed. Plausible right?
Malaysian is running out of 777s. Boeing will have to give them some new deathliners for their troubles of being a good little CIA patsy.
Time to pave Gaza?
I am sure the Israelis would love to turn it into glass if the pesky international community as a whole wasn't completely against what they are doing sans the owned media who lays cover for their genocide.
Paving Gaza would make a nice new airport!
I'm disappointed in my anti-semites here. Where's the false flag accusation??????
Because it hasn't happened.....YET!
The planes stopped flying because of a missile nearly hitting the airport. Surely those angels in Gaza couldn't have done such an act of evil. It must have been the jooooooosssss.
"anti-semite" used to mean someone who hates Jews. You assholes have reduced it to meaning someone who disagrees with a Jew, which is exactly why it is no longer "offessive" to be called an "anti-semite" but in fact, it has become a badge of honor because it merely means one spoke the truth.
in conclusion: go fuck yourself.
have reduced it to meaning someone who disagrees with a Jew
It doesn't even mean that. Instead it's someone who is critical of the state of Israel. After all, if you disagree with Jews like Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, or Ilan Pape, then you're A-OK as far as the Israel lobby is concerned.
You are partly correct, but keep in mind that those you mentioned are considered "self-hating" Jews so in the eyes of the hardcore Israelis, they are not even Jews.
There is a reason "Hitler was right" is trending on twitter. https://twitter.com/search?q=HitlerWasRight%23%20&src=typd
I have many Jewish friends and some do not support what is going on because THEIR ALLEGIANCE IS TO THEIR HOME HERE IN AMERICA WHERE GENOCIDE IS NOT FAWNED OVER....besides some of our dual citizens(wink wink nudge nudge know what I mean?)
as funny as that twitter trend is, it does give me pause... at this sort of thing only drives the israeli government to new heights of cruelty and insanity. say, for example, convincing them that the sampson option somehow makes sense...
If they can try to wipe and entire people from the Earth with extreme prejudice, why would they not use that option?
Because their objective is to destroy weapons systems. The only reason civilians are dying is because the Hamas leadership placed those weapons systems among their civilians. The Zionists have no objective to kill all the Gazan's - but maybe will if that is what it takes to destroy the weapons systems.
Good grief! I hope you and others who voice the same sentiments never have to develop a plan of defense for whatever country you have allegience to.
So by your thinking we should just go in and wipe out the whole lot of them...and Russia and {insert "rogue country" here}. The Israelis are wiping them off the earth. The death count is about 50 to 1. That's a massacre. Israel has no desire to negotiate and give them a safe place so they just throw out the "we are defending ourselves!" line of shit and kill more people. And by your thinking...Palestinians are correct in defending themselves for a "plan of defense for whatever country you have allegience to."
So by your thinking we should just go in and wipe out the whole lot of them...
So by my thinking, if we are attacked, we will do our best to destroy the weapons systems being used to attack us. Just as Israel is doing. That was my point. It is not difficult to determine that by reading my post.
Israel is wiping out weapons systems. How else does any country defend itself against another? That people are being killed in Gaza is entirely the responsibility of the Hamas leadership. It was they who chose to place their weapons systems amongst their civilian population.
There is no story here other than that. The Hamas leadship is completely and utterly evil to be doing this to their own people. They should be tried and convicted by a world court and punished for this dispicable behavior.
you have 1.8 million people living in 139 sq miles as an open prison with a couple rockets that literally do zero damage due to Iron dome and for that you should kill an entire people. Is this what you are saying?
Couldn't possibly be a psyop to increase sympathy for Israel.
The thing is, almost all of the anti-Israel rants are so fact-challenged that only a seething anti-semitism can begin to explain it.
An anti-semite used to refer to someone who doesn't like Jews. Now it refers to someone Jews don't like.
Thanks for reminding me there are no anti-semites writing comments at ZH. I wonder what made me think that. How naive of me.
There are plenty of anti-semites here as the only semites in the game are the palestinians and the zioqueers have been unloading their circumcision-induced rage onto them.
Why shouldn't there be anti-semitic comments? I see anti-American, anti-French, anti-German, anti-Russian comments, plus many more, all the time here. And that's the way it should be. Why should 'semites' get a pass?
Something tells me you quickly brushed off the idea it was offensive to be called an anti-semite.
It used to be offensive, I think people are finding it less offensive because now it's like being called anti-truth.
No that is not it. When a group of mental midgets get together to play games, they radiate hate on anyone who wants to play mental basketball, because of their observable disadvantages.
Because Jews don't radiate hate with the words of the Talmud to proclaim that anyone not jewish are goy (cattle) upon which any atrocity can be committed.
Stay brainwashed my friend!
Your problem is you don't see people as individuals. You only see tribes. You don't reach for the brass ring. You don't measure yourself based on your personal achievements.
For you, there is only the lowest common denomiator of the tribe. You, by yourself, are nothing. Your people are everything.
Sieg Heil!
Oh I do see individuals. Reread some of my posts and you'll see I differentiate between the vast majority of average jewish people trying to go about their lives and those high functioning sociopaths that give the rest of them a bad name. Problem is the minority of bad ones give the rest a bad name. Just like lawyers. Go figure! Oddly enough Islam suffers from the same problem. But they don't have as many lawyers and politicians in the US government.
Appreciate your salute to der Fuhrer but I'm no nazi lover. As you can't spell ashkenazi without NAZI.
As I've explained before, I use satire and sarcasm to mock the issue as a whole to bring awareness to it. I'll let others draw their own conclusions after they become more educated on the issue.
Thanks for playing "try to pidgeon hole Colonel Klink", you lose.
You keep bringing that up, as tho it, rather than living a righteous life, is the focus of the Talmud. Your interpretation does not square with what it takes to be called Righteous in the Jewish religion.
I invite EVERYONE to read the Talmud and decide for themselves. Fair enough pumpkin? You can try to state you're supposed to interpret it through some sort of moral lens but some individuals don't see it that way. Again, Islam says to kill the infidel, but the VAST MAJORITY of muslims don't follow that teaching. Now do they? Problem being is those that do.
Challenge of the day for ZHers, please post back how you feel after reading the teachings.
I invite EVERYONE to read the Talmud ...
Which version, and when written?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
Is that like the KJV AND NKJV bible?
In passing here are a few hightlights of whatever version that I found personally offensive as "teachings". Now please feel free to defend such vile teachings. I vividly recall someone here saying that the jewish faith doesn't teach that non-believers should be killed. Yet there it is in black and white with an attributable quote.
Jewish Racism towards Non-Jews as expressed in the Talmud
The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish peoples, as "Gentiles", "Goyim".
Let's see what the Jewish Talmud teaches the Jews concerning the non-Jewish majority, i.e. those who are not part of Jahve's "Chosen People":
"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts."
- Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b
"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the the dog more than the non-Jew."
- Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30
"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be served by animals in human form."
- Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855
"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal."
- Coschen hamischpat 405
"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs."
- Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b
"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human."
- Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b
"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog."
- Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b
"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"."
- Jore dea 377, 1
"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals."
- Talmud Sanhedrin 74b
"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile."
- Sepher ikkarim III c 25
"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah."
- Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5
"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands."
- Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b
"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God."
- Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772
grrr...
"Today, the word "Semite" may be used to refer to any member of any of a number of peoples of ancient Southwestern Asia descent including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews (Jews), Arabs, and their descendants".[2
Semite has been hijacked by the Jews as applying only to them.
http://stormcloudsgathering.com/an-honest-israeli-soldier-speaks
If you leave the US to serve in the tribe's army, the MSM will honor you. If you leave the US to serve in an Islamic army, you will be droned. If you point out this fact in the comments section, you will receive many down votes in a short amount of time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y58njT2oXfE
Then maybe those who are trying to seek an understanding upon this and ARE NOT LOSER FUCKING SHILLS who are here to serve their SATANIC masters would watch this video to see what is really going on in Israel and why THEY ARE SUPPORTING GENOCIDE of an entire people. There is a way to end this and provide a coexistence for all, but in order for that to happen, people need to awaken. To all of you who shun the truth about the absolute massacre of people...you are not human. You are evil incarnate and your silence and compliance with this evil basically makes you lower than dogshit. Anyone who supports the massacre of children on either side should be kicked off of earth. THIS IS GENOCIDE and one only need look at the death toll over the last few decades. All war is about resources and Israel are wiping humans off the earth heinously in vast quantities. It is nothing less than evil.
Dude, relax. The Israelis consider the Palestinians as subhumans, so everything's good. It's kinda like how some people in the US think of "those people" as sub-human. You can't change the reality that humans have always loved to kill other humans because of body features and "sub human" covers all the justification you need.
I value human life. Do you downvote yourself or do you have that many "fans"?
Do you downvote yourself or do you have that many "fans"?
Many "fans".
Maam, your stupidity is showing...
As is your hypocrisy.
Stupidity is calling names and ad hominem attacks with no contest and information provided on how I am what you say...CAFUCKHEAD.
Maam, your stupidity is still showing. You need to shift slightly.
How am i stupid, Mr. Genocide?
Maam, your stupidity is still showing. You need to shift slightly more.
Yer either wid us, err again us. And, if you were "again us" you hated Merica, and the troops. (Remember?)
UK Sun: Putin delivered BUK to Hamas!
There we have it! It was Hamas that shot down that jetliner over Ukraine.
Link please
Sun ain't exactly a first rate paper
And Putin ain't exactly a fool
And the Google seems to fail me on this one
Didn't that same paper have a story about Elvis having been abducted by aliens and forced to sing love me tender for ever and ever and ever?
Insurance companies are probably right up the airline's brass asses as they have lost two 777's this year and don't even know why yet:
Probable conversation:
Insurance guy:"I am officially notifying you that we will not honour any insurance claims if your aircraft flies over any war zones. As of right now, we consider Israel a war zone".
Airline brass: "But all the other side has is aimless small rockets what's the chances? We need to keep our flights moving to Israel"!
Insurance guy: "I didn't say you can't fly into Israel, only that if you do we won't cover ANY insurance claims whether it be a rocket destroying a plane or a pilot cracking his skull open walking on the runway and slipping on a banana"
Airline brass: "I guess I'm fucked"
Insurance Guy: "Whatever happened, its not covered"
We will talk with our adjuster and see if we can get some new stickers to cover the scratches on the aluminum.
ha,ha right on
2013 murders by Israelis on Palestinians in west bank and Gaza: 38
Murder in Detroit 2013 - 333
Murders in Chicago 2013 - 415.
And the genocide conversation goes to........ISRAEL!!!!!!! JOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! BAD JOOOOOOOSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.zengardner.com/male-circumcision-alters-brain-victims/#
So does patriotism, ya can't stop THAT either.
Tony
or is it Wilson
or is it none of the above
Do you sleep?
This picture clearly confirms what many* have stated about the Ultra-Orthodox version of the ritual: The Model removes the blood from the baby boy's penis with... HIS MOUTH.
Where the Mohel has Herpes, the herpes infection often leads to death in an infant.
In ANY other culture or religion this practice would be banned, and its practitioner (the mad Model) would go to prison for a long time -- after being eviscerated by the MSM. Orthodox Yids on the other hand, get a free pass once again: No military draft/service in the IDF (let other Shmucks bleed for them) -- which pisses off many secular and moderate Israelis -- and all the child bris-related molestation they want. Oh, and they are the ones who typically "settle" new areas, land taken from indigenous Palestinians. What a fucked-up bunch of extremists, that cause SO much pain, grief and bloodshed -- with their uncompromising and endless demands on the Knesset and the world! The global reach of the political power is truly amazing and scary. BTW... They also control the global diamond trade, and extort many Israeli shops with their bullshit "Kosher" seals of approval. What a racket!
* References:
http://forward.com/articles/174081/are-new-york-hospitals-hiding-herpes-...
http://jonathanturley.org/2012/03/12/the-reasonable-rabbi-standard-brooklyn-prosecutors-reportedly-investigation-rabbi-who-transmitted-herpes-to-baby-in-circumcision-ceremony/
And yet - with all of that - look at the total land mass controlled by Muslims in the middle east compared to the land mass of the Israeli state.
And look at the yearly total of all of the Muslims killed by other Muslims in the Muslim-controlled territories compared to those Muslims killed by Israel defending itself.
Kinda puts things in the proper perspective.
To be fair I believe in the last year Orthodox Jews are now required to do their military service.
I believe their exemption was not because they were Orthodox per se, but because the Jews that study the Torah, Talmud don't have to serve in the military. The Orthodox are always studying so, they never went-litlle bit scammy-now I think they are forced to.
Can anyone clarify my point?
Thanks.
Sure, but you need to apply the "those people" rule. Murders in Detroit and Chicago are mostly "those people" killing "those people", so it's expected behavior. But, Jews don't get the option of thinking of Palestinians AS "those people" because, if they could, they'd be celebrated for justifiably killing "those people".
2014 genocide by Israel on Gaza 600+ and counting
You take the prize!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you watch WWZ? I recommend to start building a bigger and taller wall.
The number of Palestinian deaths to Israeli deaths is clearly disproportionate — as of this writing, about 192:1
Felchfan1, redirecting the argument as is typical of those trying to avoid the awful facts.
If you were to quote those numbers in IQ units, you would find the world is poorer for having lost the Israelis. The Palis/Gazans.... not so much.
Because high IQ is reserved for Israelis? Is that how they measure whether people should deserve to die or not. Wow that sounds really elitist, psychopathic, and subhuman.
Can you please answer if it's possible one of the Palestinian children who have been murdered in this latest Israeli action could have been the inventor for the cure to cancer? Could one of these unrealized lives have created something the world could have used? Or is that solely in the domain of jews?
While possible, not likley... If they focused on math and sciance instead of hate, maybe. Oh, and if that child was a girl, there's absolutley 0 chance of that... You know they tend to not educate them much past 5th grade anyway...
V
Sadly I must admit, culturally that's probably true. Obviously you get my point and the answer can't be made because, no one will ever know what was lost. At least admit that much.
Agreed. As much as I hate what the Hamas and Israel/Jew haters stand for and their reasoning, I am sad for each and every person/life lost. Especially the children.
V
Always good to find common ground where we can agree. I did upvote you at least for your acknowledgement of the fact.
Good day to you sir.
Why can you be polite to my alter ego, yet so hateful to me?
Because I see people as individuals. I also possess the ability to de escalate and offer kindness in the face of disagreement. Both are at my disgression. He admitted and agreed to my position, though we may disagree on other portions. It takes a person of character to finally admit when good points are made. He did so, and I even explained as much in my reply to him.
I have no hate for you, only your positions which oppose mine. Again, go back an re-read some of what I write. I'm not as hateful as you believe me to be. Just FUCKING PISSED OFF at being robbed by Wall street and abused by my government which is claimed to be under Jewish control by Jewish leadership itself.
http://desertpeace.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/sharon1-1.jpg
So please tell me again why I'm not supposed to be hateful against those who state they control me? By your name I'm assuming you live in Canada?
The Teachings. Of course. Fucking theocracies.
Last time I checked flights into Detroit or Chicago weren't stopped, with the exception of the flase flag of 9/11.
(Infowars and many other sources)
But it's ok because it's all in defense of the chosen people and those killed aren't of value according to the teachings.
/S
You have nothing to fear but fear itself.
Don't run away, we are your friends!