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Turkish PM Cuts Ties With US, Mulls De-Dollarization With Russia

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As Turkey's graft probe continues (which the Prime Minister believes is a conspiracy - fact or not - created by The West), AP reports that Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said he no longer holds "direct" telephone conversations with U.S. President Barack Obama, suggesting a rift between the leaders who were once close. What is perhaps even more concerning is Turkey's recent de-dollarization discussions with Russia to move to settlement in local currencies. It appears 'allies' are falling by the way-side quicker than many thought...


Turkey shuns Obama... (via AP)

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said he no longer holds "direct" telephone conversations with U.S. President Barack Obama, suggesting a rift between the leaders who were once close.


In an interview with Turkey's ATV television late Monday, Erdogan said that "in the past, I used to call him directly. Because I was not able to get direct results on Syria, now our foreign ministers talk to each other."


Erdogan did not elaborate. But the Turkish leader is known to have been frustrated by U.S. reluctance for a military involvement in Syria to end the violence there.


Erdogan told ATV he speaks with Vice President Joe Biden to discuss Iraq.


In the past, Obama cast Turkey as a model democracy and the two would frequently talk by telephone.

Turkey prepares to De-Dollarize with local currency settlement with Russia... (via Google Translate)

In Sydney, the Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation Alexei Ulyukayev "on the margins" of the meeting of trade ministers of the "Group of Twenty" met with the Minister of Economy of the Republic of Turkey Nihat Zeybekchi.


In 2013, the volume of trade between the countries amounted to 32.7 billion dollars. Russia is the second (after the EU) among foreign trade partners of Turkey, and Turkey - the eighth largest trade partner of Russia.


As one of the measures to stimulate the development of trade and economic relations between Russia and Turkey, the Turkish side proposes to proceed in mutual national currencies. The question now being discussed at the site of the bilateral Working Group on banking and financial cooperation.


Minister of Economy of the Republic of Turkey Nihat Zeybekchi noted that the Turkish side is interested in building on the territory of Russian transport and logistics center for the provision of warehousing, customs clearance, loading and unloading, packing of goods, etc., which is connected with the sea ports, airports and railways and highways.


Discussion of all issues Ministers agreed to continue an ad hoc working group in late September in Istanbul.

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Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:27 | 4989813 franzpick
Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:29 | 4989820 negative rates
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Guess who can't fly over Turkey now, us, thanks to our gvt turkeys.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:31 | 4989827 Pladizow
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So, Turkey goes "cold turkey" on the dollar!

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:33 | 4989852 Handful of Dust
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oi vey

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:36 | 4989864 Latina Lover
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It seems that the USSA evil empire is playing for broke in the Ukraine.  Something must be scaring them to resort to such obvious false flags as ML17

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:40 | 4989883 CClarity
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I'll take a Turkey Club on rye please, with a shot of Vodka now.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:43 | 4989906 knukles
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And he's got a YouTube video to prove it. 

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:46 | 4989914 ZerOhead
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That is really going to throw a monkey wrench into everyones oil and gas pipeline ambitions...

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:45 | 4989920 NoDebt
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Obama's leadership.  Wherein he turns around and finds nobody following behind him.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:48 | 4989936 ZerOhead
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Let's see if ISIS starts heading north now...

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:49 | 4989942 svayambhu108
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Elections anyone ?

The presidential election in Turkey has been scheduled for August 10, 2014.

Cmmon people, dont bite it

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:51 | 4989961 Liberal
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Don't worry.  Hilary will solve everything.  Because she's a woman and we need a woman president.  And she'll reverse the Hobby Lobby decision. 

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:56 | 4989974 Manthong
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“he no longer holds "direct" telephone conversations with U.S. President Barack Obama

At least he has a choice to get that lying, collectivist POS out of his face each and every day.. something that is im-f’n-possible in this country.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:56 | 4990582 TheRedScourge
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You know, I can't help but wonder how much of this is due to the Wikileaks diplomatic cables and the Snowden NSA releases. I can imagine that most of the world leaders had little idea of the extent of how badly they were getting fucked over by the US, and I bet it hasn't been hard for Putin to win these nations over since then.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 19:05 | 4990615 mc225
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'ch'... yeah right

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 19:43 | 4990775 Hugh_Jorgan
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This is no surprise, is it? Turkey has been far from a close ally for many years. They changed fundamentally when they brought this guy in. He is a radical Muslim who will only be wooed by power. Recently Putin has been punking Obama at every turn, and with the BRICS monetary fund making news, this seems long overdue to me.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 20:31 | 4990973 palmereldritch
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When Vlad is done laying pipe on the Continent they're going to have to re-name the Euro the Putano

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 21:35 | 4991221 casfoto
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Maybe it has to do with Israel killing the 9 on board the freedom boat and then realizing that talking to Obummer has no result at all because the Zionists are criminal and will control at all costs. The Turks are considered an honorable race, not like the Zionists.


Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:06 | 4990037 mrvco
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Oh we're going to end up with a woman president, but it won't be Hillary.

Pocahontas 2016

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:22 | 4990109 Anusocracy
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Mary Ruwart 2016

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:07 | 4990367 Herd Redirectio...
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Ann Barnhardt 2016.  Provided I get to uuh, speak to her.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 01:54 | 4991762 bankerbackbacon
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Bathhouse Barry and Michael are going to need to up their bullshit meter. Lately, the lies are not even remotely believable.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 02:26 | 4991795 svayambhu108
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Elizabeth Warren

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 01:58 | 4991764 bankerbackbacon
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Ann Barnhardt 2016.  Provided I get to uuh, speak to her.



I will be her personal bodyguard, I back that idea. Think Whitney Houston.

A sexy, intelligent former hedge fund manager as prez... How much worse could it be than the head Czar, bathhouse Barry?

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 19:22 | 4990682 CH1
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Mary Ruwart 2016

I'm pretty sure Mary wouldn't want the job, but she is terrific.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:12 | 4990066 ZerOhead
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That election outcome was likely already settled months if not years ago...

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:45 | 4990534 Greenskeeper_Carl
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ha... turkey starts having "Al CIA-da insurgents" and an 'arab spring' movement in 3.2.1....

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:12 | 4990395 whyami
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Don't worry, he still has European puppets and middle east dictators.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:44 | 4990530 Berspankme
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Little Tin Horn wanna be Obama. Such a jackoff

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 21:29 | 4991199 RaceToTheBottom
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Obama, "he turns around and finds nobody following behind him."

We have to blame the american voter for this.  Obama is what he was.  It is not his fault that what worked for the US voter does not work for intelligent people (or possibly people without the spoon feeding of the american media)....


We should stop electing people we want to have a beer with.  Intelligence should not be an disadvantage.  We do this in the education environment and in the real world.


Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:45 | 4989919 COSMOS
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I wonder what changed Erdogan's mind, could it of been the publicly unreleased tape where Vicky Nuland says 'Fuck Turkey and Erdogan'

But seriously, how much longer did he think he would last after Khadafi and Assad before the dual citizen run USA would turn on him to secure the oil and gas fields in the Eastern Mediterranean for you know who....

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:56 | 4989979 ZerOhead
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They sold him out on the promises they made for helping overthrow Assad.

They used to be good friends not so long ago... ah it's seems like only yesterday...

I suspect the new Kurdish state Bibi & friends wish to set up may cost him some acres as well...

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:58 | 4990002 socalbeach
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But wasn't it Russia that prevented the US from bombing Syria and overthrowing Assad?

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:01 | 4990014 knukles
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Nope... Obama made that decision.  Unless Bush it was Bush's fault.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:18 | 4990091 ZerOhead
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And then AIPAC went fucking nuts.

Now I hear they don't speak so much...

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:08 | 4990377 Herd Redirectio...
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Turkey, Germany + Russia = domination of central Europe.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:14 | 4990403 Herd Redirectio...
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Seriously, though.  From Bulgaria, to Belarus, to Austria. 

Its a nice little triangle.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 19:26 | 4990698 Kirk2NCC1701
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Bulgaria and Serbia will be happy to join too.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 01:28 | 4991750 agNau
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It is really quite simple. Putin showed Merkel the goods, and she is passing them around.
The room of Anglo Dollar believers is emptying out.
No one wants to hold dollars or hands with the US any longer. Disgusting Bitch! They stopped the car and threw her out!
Now she'll throw up on herself.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 02:34 | 4991801 Ides of November
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Turkey & Germany certainly have form........

They make a great Axis of Central Powers.

Interesting tidbits

July 28th, 1914 - Austria declared war on Serbia (looks like this anniversary will be ignored)

August 1st, 1914 - Germany declared war on Russia (looks like this particular anniversary will also be ignored)

August 4th, 1914 - United Kingdom declared war on Germany (Hmmmmm, too soon?)

October 29th, 1914 - Turkey entered war on Germany's side..... Just a fortnight before this fabulous G20 Gala Ball thing Tony Abbott of Australia is hosting. All the cool people will be there. The greetings are going to be fun!

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:15 | 4990021 ZerOhead
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Nah... Russia bailed Obama's ass out and the Nazi shitshow in the Ukraine was all the thanks Puitn got.

Congress, although extremely willing as usual, was getting some serious heat from the people who vote.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:40 | 4989889 eatthebanksters
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The great and mighty O has no time for those who do not share his brilliant vision of what the world can become...unfortunately for the great and might O, no one shares his vision.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:46 | 4989909 knukles
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Oh, I'll betcha Cloward and Piven are happy


PS  Which pipeline was it that goes across Turkey?

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:17 | 4990088 Sedaeng
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The one that was suppose to go through Syria?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:27 | 4995888 Escapedgoat
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TAP. From Azerbajan.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:42 | 4989897 Ignatius
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Turkey is an important NATO partner.

This is strange.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:08 | 4990057 ZerOhead
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Things these days are so complety fucked up it gives anyone who is still capable of rational or critical thought migraines.

Unless our leaders are secretly brilliant and merely acting like fools... well... it's beginning to look more and more like a free-for-all.

No wonder they wheeled out Cheney...

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:23 | 4990456 durablefaith
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the cognitive dissonance comes from seeing nation states as benefactors.  

the plan

bring in new world order. must bring america lower. transfer assets east. ruin americas reputation. alienate americas allies. devalue usd. disarm merikans. one world currency tied to export value. mass refugees status to break up regions of solidarity. war between muslims and everyone else. resolution - outlaw nations and religions. one world system complete. target date 2025

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:10 | 4990064 Z_End
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I wonder how much longer they will remain in NATO? Even if they stay perhaps they will be very reluctant parteners. Let's see if they as NATO troops to leave the country...

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:22 | 4990108 ZerOhead
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NATO never leaves.

After all they are US... and it would fuck immensely with our ambitions of global dominance.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 22:07 | 4991336 COSMOS
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I am wondering when the French will kick NATO out again.  I really see no reason why they bothered joining.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:27 | 4990143 TheObsoleteMan
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Turkey WAS  an important NATO member. What we are witnessing, is the break up of NATO, and it is all because of the Ukraine debacle. NATO has lost it's all important south flank. The Black Sea Fleet will now have little to fear of a closure of the Bosphorus straight too. VERY important development.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 19:35 | 4990740 Kirk2NCC1701
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Turks are shrewd business people, first and foremost.  Like Istanbul itself, they have the European-Asian dichotomy/duality in them.  They know how to leverage their unique geographic position for national gain.

If they come out ahead economically with a direct currency swap (that avoids the USD), they will do it.  NATO will become a moot point and superfluous the minute the Dollar gets knocked off its lofty perch.  The rest of the EU will pivot quickly to make Eurasian deals also, and ditch the DC-bitch.

The Dollar's days of Wine & Roses are numbered.  Soon it will be Guns & Poses.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 20:49 | 4991050 Spigot
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What is even more strange is that Turkey dispises Russia ... and are now considering economic cooperation ... what does that tell you about how they see us??

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 22:12 | 4991346 COSMOS
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Well its complicated, the Russians supplied arms and helped the young Turks keep Turkey together.  Michael Frunza, a leading Soviet general is standing with Ataturk and others in a statue in Istanbul.  Sure they have been enemies for hundreds of years.  But they know each other pretty well and respect each other.  Respect is a big thing in that part of the world.  We seem to be disrespecting anyone and everyone.  I mean even though Turkey and Russia are on opposite sides of the table with Syria, Putin was the first one to call and congratulate Erdogan on his second election, that is a sign of respect.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 21:32 | 4991212 Nexus789
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Not strange given the perfidious behaviour of one trusts anything they do or say.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:44 | 4989908 Escrava Isaura
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Latina Lover.... "Something must be scaring them"

De-dollarization = High inflation and high interest rates

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:53 | 4989976 cossack55
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I do believe that Cameron is dense enough to go for Gallipoli 2.0 when the SHTF.  The Turks are not push overs, especially in defense.  Where are the Dardenelles again.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:15 | 4990082 Escrava Isaura
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No, he won't! I give it a 5% probability.

But I tell you when the SHTF.

When Egypt goes to war.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:54 | 4990569 Optimusprime
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With whom?  Inquiring minds want to know. 

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 23:13 | 4991552 Escrava Isaura
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Optimusprime... "Inquiring minds want to know."

LOL! I like the way you phrased it.


Why do you think Israel signed a Peace Treaty with Egypt?

Then, attacked Lebanon in less than 24 months after that.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 02:29 | 4991798 Aussie V
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That is something us Aussies know all about. We got our collective arses kicked at Gallipoli. (Proniunced ARS EZ)

The Turks were very adept opposition but showed and, continue to show us Aussies/NZers great respect.

Ergodan is a hard one to pick but this is a very interesting move. We await to see Germany make a similar announcement. Jim Willie has been spouting that Germany has decided to ditch the EU and pitch their tents with Russia and the east.

If and when that happens I'll get excited.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 02:37 | 4991805 Ides of November
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Yeah, but if Cameron tried to pull that trick he'd have to convince Aussie PM Tony Abbott - a Rhodes Scholar no less!!!! - to go along with him.

No chance!!!

Oh, hang on, did you say Tony Abbott?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 03:34 | 4991863 Aussie V
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Abbott is likely to do ANYTHING that OBama tells him to.

Abbott can be better understood if you spell his name slowly.....A bot

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:18 | 4990423 kchrisc
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"It seems that the USSA evil empire is playing for broke in the Ukraine.  Something must be scaring them to resort to such obvious false flags as ML17"

Israel must have their pipeline and Lebensraum. They have already purchased a new bulldog--Europe.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 19:24 | 4990685 Kirk2NCC1701
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The well-informed people know that Germany and Turkey have long had good ties (same side in WW1), and most Turks working abroad are in Germany.  If Turkey and Germany pivot East, and Southstream goes to Vienna, it's really bad news for US oil+gas, not to mention the Fed. 

In the meantime, direct currency exchanges that avoid the USD is more critical, as something will be required to mop up all those Petrodollars sloshing around.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 23:33 | 4991591 RaceToTheBottom
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Interesting thoughts, probably accurate.  Thanks

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:34 | 4989856 Latina Lover
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Hillarious, LOL!


Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:33 | 4990174 HamRove
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This is F-ing GREAT!!


Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:35 | 4989860 Zero Govt
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it's Christmas ...for US turkeys

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:41 | 4989900 Max Cynical
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I'm surprised anyone wants to talk to Obama...he's nothing but an amatuer playing government.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:54 | 4990291 Canadian Dirtlump
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it has been said he plays basketball like a white man and runs the country like a black thug. LOL.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:54 | 4990284 Canadian Dirtlump
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Erdogan is mentally unbalanced as a matter of established fact so in this vein I'll say the US not attacking Syria is the good side of the argument - though clearly both sides are pathologically evil.


p.s. once erdogan is finally outed from office for corruption and warcrimes, he should go to the forbidden city in china and become a palace eunuch.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:30 | 4989814 franzpick
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Don't answer the red-white-and-blue phone...

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:29 | 4989821 q99x2
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I'm voting for a White male of Russian descent for the next President of Washington D.C.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:32 | 4989838 Almost Solvent
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Fuck that shit. I want an undocumented alien who doesn't speak, but can understand some English.


Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:34 | 4989853 Pladizow
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Obama cant run for a 3rd term!

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:37 | 4990190 dracos_ghost
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Except the BLS says this is his first term -- seasonally adjusted. He's got at least one more to go after this.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:37 | 4989874 Handful of Dust
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ur both off base. I'm casting my [invaluable] vote for a Diverse Community Organizer who can whip this country into shape..... promises to end wars ... is outraged by Wall Street bonses ... bring races togther ....


...oh., wait a sec.......

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:09 | 4990058 newdoobie
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Elizibeth Warren?

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:22 | 4990447 More_sellers_th...
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Please... we all know whose next...U.S. President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:36 | 4989867 potato
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Are you writing-in your candidate: Putin?

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:32 | 4990488 durablefaith
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if you are going to fall for drama and rhetoric you will get what you deserve.

try reading some history. holodomore

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:30 | 4989825 BORT
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I wish we could all shun him and have him go away.  He and Kerry are going to destroy our global position

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:39 | 4989876 Zero Govt
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your global position is the wooden spoon ...been that way for decades ...hard to imagine you getting any worse but there's no end to the innovation in US Govt at new ways to piss off everyone on the planet

well done 

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:51 | 4989931 knukles
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Going to destroy?
Not been reading the foreign press, I assume....


OK, I can't hold it back, anymore.
It's all Bush's fault

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:30 | 4989828 pods
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Rumor has it that the Turkish PM is "too beaucoup" for dear leader.


Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:26 | 4990138 Sedaeng
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I went to download this "free" book provided by your link and my anti-virus software popped up. 

Found: Luhe.Fiha.A

Luhe Fiha is a malicious software that once it is exceuted has the capability of replicating itself and infect other files and programs.

Just saying... hope your intentions were earnest...

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:33 | 4989835 angel_of_joy
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For those geographically challenged, Turkey hold the keys to access into the Black Sea. Looks like the days of US Navy doing "exercises" in a place they've never been before, are coming to an end...

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:49 | 4989943 knukles
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Well fuck me.  There's another reason to dissolve the 6th fleet .....

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:33 | 4989839 Zero Govt
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US Govt foreign policy is a winner

anyone on the planet that doesn't hate those bubblegum chewin aholes?

nope, didn't think so 

well done Washington ..your national hatred amongst your own is top of the pops too


Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:34 | 4989843 tony wilson
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erdugonna is a child rapist an international human organ trader his most important job is helping his friends and blood brothers the rabbi's of israhell.

if this dog was serious he already would of done an  intel dump on the real people behind  911.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:59 | 4990325 angel_of_joy
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Maybe, but he just won a new round of local elections. He's going to be around for a while...

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:18 | 4990417 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Maybe not there is always the possibility the Turkish military is prodded to sour on him and don't forget Fethullah Gulen a US backed Turkish oligarch type is lurking in the shadows.


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 03:28 | 4991855 angel_of_joy
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Fat chance ! He has gutted the Turkish military, and replaced all top commanders with his people, as a priority. Gulen has lost the game, and he'll be lucky to stay out of jail.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:34 | 4989845 ebworthen
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Surely some rounds of golf and $550 Billion in taxpayer dollars can fix this!

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:35 | 4989859 IridiumRebel
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Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:10 | 4990060 MsCreant
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Holy moly, it's Bratman!

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:34 | 4989848 Racer
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The sooner the whole world gets rid of the toilet paper "currency" uh  dollar, the better.

F*ck off US bully, the world hates you

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:41 | 4989894 Zero Govt
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the world hates Washington

Americans hate Washington

we are at one 

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:53 | 4989964 knukles
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Well he did promise to reunite.....
er.... ah... ummmm... I was ah.... going to point out that if I were... uh.... had a uh ... house in ah... Palm Whatchamacallit and uh.... we, under my uh....  coild never have ... mmmm.....  I uh......  

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 19:58 | 4990839 Kirk2NCC1701
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Well, the Turks and Muslims know how many Muslims have died due to the DOD and American "liberations":  Lots.  Hundreds of thousands.  And the blood baths just won't end.

They also know how many have died or been oppressed under Putin, when they took Crimea, where a significant Muslim population lives:  Zero.  People outside the US notice this stuff.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 13:01 | 4993690 FeralSerf
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"world hates Washington

Americans hate Washington"

The New World Order?

"The genius of you Americans is that you never make clear-cut stupid moves, only complicated stupid moves which make the rest of us wonder at the possibility that we might be missing something." - Gamal Abdel Nasser

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:47 | 4989927 Monty Burns
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The whole world hates the American elite, not the people.  And in the long run it'd be better for the latter for the dollar to collapse.  That's the only way we will get the Great Reset.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:53 | 4989983 knukles
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Not been overseas for a while, I take it.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:28 | 4990153 Winston Churchill
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Luckily enough I can revert back to public school english at a moments notice,or

if in England,where some yank slang words give me away if I'm not very careful,

I can pretend to speak only romanche,which nobody understands outside of switzerland ,

and nobody can detect my accent.

Even everyday english people are not friendly to yanks anymore.It only goes downhill

from there.A yank abroad is getting as popular as a fart in a spacesuit.

When SHTF don't be abroad, or in the cities here.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:58 | 4990005 NOTaREALmerican
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The great reset only means a new elite take over.    Be careful what you wish for.

BTW,  the world only hates the concept of the American Elite.   But, they like the wealthy Americans when they buy a villa in Tuscany.    That's the problem with "the elite",  they ARE nice to have a beer with. 

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:08 | 4990378 RaiZH
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Yeah but when they see fat Americans getting a hissiy fit over some black Friday sales, that doesn't reflect very well..

... the rest of the world hates American ignorance at the very least. 

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 19:45 | 4990773 Kirk2NCC1701
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The world loves our T-bones.  They're just tired of getting T-boned by the DOD and CIA.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 23:43 | 4991606 RaceToTheBottom
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Got to add NSA to that alphabet.


Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:34 | 4989855 NOTaREALmerican
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We are currently "helping" the Kurds.    The Turks consider the Kurds "those people".      Nobody like it when you help "those people".    The Kurds better watch themselves.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:36 | 4989861 ptoemmes
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Turkey is a NATO member.  Not sure that's important or not, but it is fact.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:35 | 4989862 buzzsaw99
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i smell bullshit. erdogan is pissed off because owebomba wouldn't bomb syria, which russia was totally against, so now he is buddies with putin? fuck yeah dump the usd, i hope they all do but holy fuck that excuse is lame as hell.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:50 | 4989951 AnAnonymous
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Added to that, the strange relationship between Turkey and some European countries...

Russia is being pumped out by various leeches.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 19:52 | 4990816 Kirk2NCC1701
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Israel wants to buy oil from the Kurds, via Syria.  Turkey not happy about a Kurdish deal.

Plus we don't know what kind of a pipeline deal the Russians and Turks got cooking.  An underwater line in the Black Sea, direct to Istanbul could hedge the Southstream via Bulgaria. 

At this point, it's ALL about ENERGY + CURRENCY:  Whose energy and whose currency.  Bitchez.

Hedge accordingly.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:36 | 4989870 iwillikers
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The two muslim bros have their panties in a tiff

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:42 | 4989875 what's that smell
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why this perpetual turkey and turks suck?

turkey sucks because they suffer graft and corruption?

london and d.c and tel aviv are good because they are paragons of virtue?

zerohedge will sell it's asshole for one more green dollar.

zerohedge good. turkey bad. 

zion, usa, and uk good. russia bad.

israel good. arabs bad.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:12 | 4990068 MsCreant
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Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:27 | 4990141 ZerOhead
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He's off his meds...

Or conversely it's his meds talking...

You pick.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:40 | 4989882 eddiebe
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Gee I wonder why people around the globe are getting tired of supporting the US's exorbitant priviledge and all the other games that affords them to play. 

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:45 | 4989915 NOTaREALmerican
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Yeah,  we'll see tho.    Everybody gangs-up on the biggest dick, but when the lesser dicks start fighting between themselves some of them look at the big-dick for help.   He, then, pounds a few of the lesser dicks and twists the arms of the lesser dicks who asked for help, and things go back to normal - for awhile.   Should be interesting to see kids fight (as long as your own kids aren't dieing for the dicks, of course).

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:40 | 4989886 Canucklehead
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I thought Turkey believed in tourism?

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:41 | 4989895 Oscar
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Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:47 | 4989928 Escrava Isaura
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Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:50 | 4989947 Oscar
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I'm not sure how to prove it other than to say that you should google  You'll see various articles that you can click

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:48 | 4989934 zzzddd1
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Good silver monthly chart from 1995! 

Thank you

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:42 | 4989896 sixsigma cygnus...
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At least Canada and Uruguay are still friends with us for now...

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:51 | 4989963 Boomberg
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You forgot Poland.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:59 | 4990004 knukles
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And Sealand.
Don't forget Sealand.


Or San Marino

And I'll betcha the Vatican would forgive any hard feelings
Bend over so I may bless you my son

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 18:39 | 4990475 Zero Govt
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Sorry SixSigma but the Canadians pretend to be America's friends ...when the US invades illegally yet another unthreatening foreign land they send 70 troops on a slow boat to China to sho 'support' for the latest US Govt lunatic fringe (Rockerfella-Rothchild etc)) global thuggery 

the slow boat usually arrives 3 weeks after the illegal invasion has finished

i think Uruguay is faking orgasms too ..they're probably on tens of billions of loans and aid from the rotten US foreign trade bank that subsidises GE's garbage international trade projects... shit nuclear power stations and other crap like that

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:42 | 4989899 youngman
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This will be Obamas Legacy..the devaluation and replacement of the Dollar...he will do this well..

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:45 | 4989922 jubber
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Turkey and Kurdistan are best of friends now, and Kurdistan is exporting their Oil throught the pipeline to Turkish Ceylan port, the US will not recognise  Kurdistan as the only safe  and non lunatic part of Iraq, that is another reason I would think the Turks are pissed, as the US fails to help Kurdistan against ISIS although their troops the Peshmerga are the only Iraqi troops that didn't run a way and have a fearsome reputation similar  to what the Gurkhas have. There are currently over 50 foreign Oil firms working in Kurdistan including Chevron Exxon, marathon, total etc etc, in total safety,but that fucking idiot Obama wants them run from Baghdad, who refuse to pay their Civil Servants, it is a totally ridiculous situation and yet another US fuckup.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:46 | 4989923 Jack Burton
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On the surface it appears the Neocon Washington establishement and Israel go from strength to strenght. Destroy nations at will. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Ukraine. Get un questioned support from the EU and NATO in every action they take. Have total control over all spy agencies and what they do. More importantly, Washington and APICAC literally hole the words media in a death grip over ownership and influence. They seem untouchable. It may even be, only maybe, that they can run a false flag as big as dowing an Air Liner and be able to use their total power to steal all evidence of who did it and them provide their own media and investigative control to pin it on those who did not do it.

BUT, dollar hegemony makes this all possible. DOllar hegemony hurts many other economies and nations very badly. The dollar is the world's vampire, able to steal strength, resources and power from most every nation in the world. Perhaps there are now SO MANY victims of the dollar system that those who suffer are beginning to band together and seek a way out of Washington's death grip around their throats and economies.

Time will tell. Washington will not go down without a fight. Look at Ukraine to see how many they are prepared to kill in their power struggle.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:50 | 4989946 Escrava Isaura
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You got it! it's the dollar. See my comment above.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:52 | 4989966 Monty Burns
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If the same people could pull off an operation the scale of 9/11 and not just get away with it but get their enemies blamed, then a single airliner is child's play.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:09 | 4990054 Escrava Isaura
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Monty Burns,

Can we keep 9/11 out of this? You all made your point.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 13:14 | 4993768 FeralSerf
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9/11 was the Major Turning Point in official American tyranny. It's still difficult for most Earthlings to comprehend that Americans would do this to themselves, or allow others to do it to them, for political (and monetary) gain.

There's no way to keep 9/11 out of 21st Century politics. 9/11 is the yardstick that measures the credibility and motives of American leadership.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 17:44 | 4990211 JR
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And speak up and you’re an anti-Semite.

What’s the opposite of an anti-Semitic protest? It’s a Semitic cheering section like the bottom dwelling, bought-out US Congress too weak to stand up to AIPAC. As for the foreign ministers of Germany, France and Italy who condemn those of us protesting the slaughter in Gaza as being anti-Semitic,  they too are sycophant politicians indebted for their jobs to the US State Department and to NATO monetary assistance from the United States, i.e., to Israel.

Says Stephen M. Walt (professor of International Affairs, Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government)  in his Huffington Post article today, AIPAC Is the Only Explanation for America's Morally Bankrupt Israel Policy: Members of the House and Senate “understand that even the slightest display of independent thinking on these issues could leave them vulnerable to a well-funded opponent the next time they’re up for election. At a minimum they will have to answer a flood of angry phone calls and letters, and, on top of that, they are likely to be blackballed by some of their Congressional colleagues.”

There can be no escaping the truth that Israel would not have this power and the abililty to position these political puppets into power without Jewish control and ownership of the US world reserve currency.  Israeli sympathizers and/or Israel-US dual citizens not only print US dollars out of thin air, they can allocate them in secret to whomever they favor. The end result: members of Jewish families hold almost every key financial position in the United States.

And now Israel not only shares in but directs surveillance of US citizens and politicians.

Foreign ministers of Germany, France, Italy condemn anti-Semitic protests | RT

The foreign ministers of Germany, France and Italy on Tuesday condemned anti-Semitic protests and violence in their countries over the conflict in Gaza. “Anti-Semitic rhetoric and hostility against Jews, attacks on people of Jewish belief and synagogues have no place in our societies,” AP quoted a joint statement of German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, France’s Laurent Fabius and Italy’s Federica Mogherini issued in Brussels. The ministers pledged to do everything possible to fight “acts and statements that cross the line to anti-Semitism, racism and xenophobia.”

Meanwhile, today, as the housing of the UNRWA Girls' School in Gaza is taking direct hits by Israeli shelling, resulting in more displacement and destruction …

600 Deaths in Israeli Gazi op: Military Hits Mosques, Stadium, Homes, Hospital | RT

 July 22, 2014  

Israel kept up attacks on Gaza on Tuesday, killing three Palestinians and hitting over 70 targets, including five mosques, a sports stadium and the home of the deceased Hamas military chief.

The latest casualties in the fortnight-long violence have brought the Palestinian death toll to 570, according to AP. Almost 100 of them are children and many others are civilians.

Additionally, nearly 500 homes have been destroyed in the Israeli bombardments and 100,000 people have been displaced, said Jens Laerke, spokesman of the UN Office for Humanitarian Assistance (OCHA) at a Geneva news briefing...

The US is "deeply concerned about the consequences of Israel's appropriate and legitimate effort to defend itself," [US Secretary of State John] Kerry said [Monday in Cairo].

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 20:05 | 4990866 Kirk2NCC1701
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Just explain that Palestinians are Semites* too.

People aren't so much Antisemitic, as they are Anti-Zionist.  And don't forget that it wasn't that long ago that the UN said that Zionism was a form of apartheid racism.  Subsequent US pressure and arm-twisting of allies changed that UN resolution.

* Descendants of Shem, the Biblical son of Noah.  Although I didn't know that Noah was an Aussie and his hot-looking wife so Anglo looking.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 13:21 | 4993805 FeralSerf
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It helps to understand that the 13th Tribe, the Ashkenazim that control Israel, is not Semitic. They are, in fact, the real anti-Semites. Truth-telling is not one of their more conspicuous virtues.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:48 | 4989937 nosoeawe
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i just want to know what kissinger has on the elite that they would throw their sovereignty out the window and sell their people up shit creek by only using the USD in trade. 

that motherfucker could sell ice to eskimos, or a lifetime membership to mans country to the jihadist in chief.


Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:50 | 4989950 Dr. Engali
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Yeah but the real question is; did he unfriend him on Farcebook? That's the true test of friendship.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:57 | 4990001 moonman
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As of now he has just blocked him

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:50 | 4989953 alexcojones
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You get the idea that Putin is the New Osama Bin Laden?

But it just ain't working since Vlad refuses to be controlled like OBL?

Gonna take more than some doomed Navy Seals this time.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:50 | 4989956 Utah_Get_Me_2
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So Turkey is mad that their direct handling, training and supplying of ISIS and al-Nusra in Syria and Iraq at the behest of the CIA, MI6 and Saudi/Qatari intelligence has been exposed. Mad that it's military leaders were caught planning a false flag attack to frame the Assad regime. Mad that its citizens regularly riot in the streets and want to put Erdogan's head on a pike. After everything they've done for NATO and the MIC, they couldn't even get a lousy US airstrike on Damascus. Poor Erdogan.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:51 | 4989960 smacker
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Could be a ploy to put pessure on the EU to speed up its application to join the bankrupt club.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:53 | 4989971 homiegot
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Is Obama out golfing? Seems like no one seems to care what is happening there at the White House.

Tue, 07/22/2014 - 16:53 | 4989972 rkbauer
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Meanwhile, all of the institutional investors are buying up Russian stocks.

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