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China Seals Off Yumen City After Outbreak Of Bubonic Plague

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With Colorado suffering from pneumonic plague, and the dreadfully sad report of Sierra Leone's chief Ebola doctor contracting the virus, it appears China is taking no chances. As Yahoo reports, Chinese officials have blocked off parts of Yumen, a city in northwest China, preventing about 30,000 of the city's people from leaving after one resident died from bubonic plague. About 150 people who had contact with the plague victim have been placed under quarantine but US experts are perplexed at the response, "there's something here that we don't know, because this seems a very expansive response to just one case."

As Yahoo reports,

A city in China has reportedly been sealed off after one resident died from bubonic plague, but this way of trying to contain the disease is puzzling to infectious disease experts, who say the response seems extreme given the information released about the case.


According to news reports, Chinese officials have blocked off parts of Yumen, a city in northwest China, preventing about 30,000 of the city's people from leaving.


A man in the city became ill after he handled a dead marmot (a large wild rodent), and died last week from bubonic plague. No other cases of the plague have been reported, according to the Guardian. About 150 people who had contact with the plague victim have been placed under quarantine.

But US experts are wondering if there is more going on...

Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, Tennessee, said that sealing off a city is a rather extreme set of precautions to take for a single case of bubonic plague. "I feel there's something here that we don't know, because this seems a very expansive response to just one case," Schaffner said.


"We have cases of bubonic plague from time to time in the United States, and they don't require this kind of public health response," Schaffner said. In recent decades, there have been an average of seven cases of bubonic plague a year in the United States, the CDC says.

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Schaffner wondered whether Chinese public health authorities had more information that they have not released, such as reason to suspect more cases. "I'm very puzzled at the circumstances here, and what the actual hazard is."


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Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:18 | 4995331 Herd Redirectio...
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"Handled" a marmot, or cooked it up and served it streetside, as a special entree?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:20 | 4995345 Pladizow
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Zombies, bitches!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:27 | 4995368 Oldwood
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Choices for a vacation spot are quickly narrowing.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:28 | 4995376 icanhasbailout
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please do not interfere with the experiment

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:36 | 4995403 Oldwood
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I would imagine that air travel plays greatly into many facets of their experiment.

Dispersal through international travelers

black box recordings


Structural integrity of burning highrises

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:39 | 4995419 BurningFuld
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He was not cooking his Marmots properly. NO RARE MARMOT!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:43 | 4995442 Oldwood
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But there is nothing worse than a tough, overcooked marmot. Really. A good marinade can help, but you get that shit stuck in your teeth and its just horrible. Especially the old ones.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:10 | 4995809 msmith9962
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A close relative of the barbaloot I believe.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:15 | 4995826 SafelyGraze
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china closes off yumen city to CASH-ONLY travelers

but if you have ez-pass, it's actually pretty fast to get in and out of the city

subcutaneous chip-implant data-sharing estonia 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:12 | 4996086 Indian_Goldsmith
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Thank God I'm going to die really really soon. I really didnt want to see my dark future.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 23:44 | 4996645 willwork4food
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Are you OK? This is the second time you posted this at different pages.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 00:03 | 4996695 kareninca
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I hope you are not being serious.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 05:37 | 4997076 StandardDeviant
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Oldwood, you should try stewing your marmot slowly.  Softens up nicely.

(No, that's not a euphemism.)

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:44 | 4995446 Herd Redirectio...
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IDK if his rotisserie was broken, or what.  I do know, if you see the boy in the below pic, run!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:54 | 4995496 Oldwood
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Nice, but its just not right to use children as bait.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:10 | 4995586 RafterManFMJ
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He was not cooking his Marmots properly

What are you - a fuckin' park ranger now?!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:33 | 4995666 Exponere Mendaces
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Funny, my first thought was "plausible deniability" as they ship off someone on a flight to a west-coast city in the USA.

Guess we'll have to look out for the reports from California in the coming days...

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:41 | 4995433 Da Yooper
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Choices for a vacation spot are quickly narrowing.


There is always Israel


I just read on ZH that it is a safe place to vacation to



Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:53 | 4995490 Oldwood
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Free weapons on arrival?

.....its tempting....

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:27 | 4995369 TeamDepends
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The lucies have opened the gates of hell. Can you feel it?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:47 | 4995461 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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If I am correct the Avenging Angels also have had enough and are on these sons of bitches asses now. If I am right a few Luciferian finance people tied to 9/11 are going to disappear over the next couple of weeks/months. The opening salvo was shot on 7/22/2014. I wouldn't want to be one of them down on Wall Street right about now if this what I think it is.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 22:46 | 4996463 MeMongo
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Mongo's putting all his money on the captain trips! Google it Bitchez, unless of course you're familiar with Randall Flagg!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:21 | 4995346 Pladizow
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Zombies, bitches!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:40 | 4995424 Herd Redirectio...
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I've said it before, the zombies already came, and they won.   They didn't get everyone, sure, but about 90% of people it would seem, go through life without so much as a critical or individual thought.


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:48 | 4995465 Oldwood
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Agreed. Just because their flesh isn't falling off...yet, doesn't mean their brain is not dead. The key is watching for those trying to eat your brain, or at least what you use your brain for, like productive things. Zombies do not produce...they eat...productivity. They need it beyond any reasonable level, regardless of what they may have just consumed they want more, and no reasoning will dissuade them. EAT!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:20 | 4995347 Pladizow
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Zombies, bitches!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:24 | 4995361 zorba THE GREEK
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IT is interesting that a person who handles dead rodents would have contact with a 150 people

in a short time. Maybe these people should be made to wash their hands more often.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:27 | 4995370 Oldwood
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Its these fucking social networks, I tell ya.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:51 | 4995475 graftvshost
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That was his entire friend list on "marmotspace".

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:31 | 4995384 Citxmech
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Maybe they figure that the "cooking" oil they refine out of gutter slime will kill anything harmful cooked in it.  Maybe this strain of plague is resistant to toxic sludge?


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:33 | 4995392 Oldwood
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Remember "The Blob"?

This time it will be pink slime.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:42 | 4995440 DirkDiggler11
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And these are the same people worrying about some "aged" beef at McDonalds or Taco Hell in China? I think they might just have something a bit more serious on their hands...

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:36 | 4995400 TheReplacement
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Apparently they were out of dog that day.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:22 | 4995621 Dave
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You won't get the plague eating a cooked marmot.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:18 | 4995334 Cattender
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this shit is starting to remind me of Resident Evil... Fuck!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:28 | 4995375 Atomizer
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Mrs Atomizer and I recently watched that movie, Milla Jovovich is a hotty.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 23:50 | 4996663 willwork4food
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yur lusting after Milla whilst watching with Mrs. Atomizer??? Heathen!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:18 | 4995338 ncdirtdigger
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Trying to keep these folks from redeeming their money market funds?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:31 | 4995385 Oldwood
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Buying up other's life insurance policies is starting to look better.


Running a fever?  A little short of cash for the doctor visit? let me make you an offer.....

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 00:08 | 4996671 willwork4food
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What about a high quality, US Government approved reverse mortgage payment for you hut? Apply now!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:19 | 4995339 brucekeller
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I dunno, seems pretty expansive for just one case.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:20 | 4995340 Fuku Ben
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Interesting post picture considering my last post.

The plague is being announced in many places

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:19 | 4995341 1000 splendid suns
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Fort Detrick creation

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:46 | 4995452 NumNutt
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AHH Fort Detrick.... I grew up in Frederick MD, remember that place well.....Funny how most people don't even know what is in their back yard. Every time I am in Reston VA I point out the new fire station on the corner of Sunset Hills road and Wiehle Ave.  That is the location for the only US outbreak of Ebola virus and most people don't even know it.  It used to be a facility that housed research chimps until they all came down with ebola, they were all destroyed and the building raised. It was a vacant lot for years with a fence around it, then the city of Reston turned it into a fire station.....

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:57 | 4995508 Herd Redirectio...
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"All came down with Ebola"

Or is that "All were infected with Ebola once they arrived at Ft Detrick"

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:20 | 4996107 Things that go bump
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That was an entirely different strain of Ebola and has its own designation. Its called Ebola Reston. The monkeys were imported from the Philippines and some came down sick shortly after arrival. They were in a holding facility run by the company that imported them for resale to research facilities (located conveniently near a daycare center). It spread through the whole facility despite efforts at quarantine, so apparently it was also airborne, as suppossedly the only contact between areas was the ventilation system. I understand several of the primate workers tested positive, but never developed symptoms. One worker was hospitalized with flu-like symptoms, but apparently it was a coincidence, though I don't really believe in coincidences of that nature. It really killed those monkeys though. It scared the Army and the CDC to death. It took 2 army vets with teams in biohazard suits with self-contained ventilation several days to destroy all those monkeys. There is a book about the incident that is quite exciting. It occurs to me that Ebola Reston might make a suitable vaccine, as Edward Jenner noted cowpox, a harmless rash contacted by dairy maids protected against smallpox. There was also a nurse in Africa who contacted Ebola from a patient. She survived after being injected with the serum of a survivor, though it wasn't a proper scientific study and so is discounted as anecdotal.  

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:07 | 4995562 Oldrepublic
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Ft Detrick was the place where Dr.Bruce Ivins was involved with the anthrax case and was" forced" to commit suicide.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:59 | 4995522 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ah yes, a favorite of Tom Clancy.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 22:28 | 4996380 Greenskeeper_Carl
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That book is what I thought about with the Ebola thing in Africa and the random third worlders from all over the place crossing the border. Just waiting to hear about this great new vaccine, which of course will be mandatory.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 04:47 | 4997051 Mitzibitzi
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I'm re-reading 'Executive Orders' as my 'bedtime book' at present, since I've been having the same thoughts recently.

In tyhe real world, things are getting slightly worrying, though. Let's do a quick finger count:

We have Ebola apparently reaching epidemic proportions in Africa. An unknown number of cases of norovirus in Scotland. Pneumonic plague in the US. Bubonic in China. Occasional reports of MERS still filtering out of Saudi, whenever they can sneak past the obvious government censorship. Am I missing any?

And also note that the CDC disease outbreak page has not been updated since May 20th - previously, it's been added to/modified on a pretty much daily basis.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:22 | 4995343 CheapBastard
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"Gee these dumplings taste good, Mr Tu Phat Wong. What's your secret?"


"My secret is to Wok the Dog long time."

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:01 | 4995534 DirkDiggler11
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+ 1,000

I laughed so hard I about pissed my pants.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:21 | 4995349 medium giraffe
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Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:30 | 4995905 lasvegaspersona
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'Your Brains'

spiffworld/ Johnathan Coulton

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:22 | 4995352 Atomizer
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Ask someone about what really happened in the UK. The fuckwits are rehashing old tactics. 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:22 | 4995355 Buster Cherry
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Chickety China the Chinese Chicken....

Have a drum stick and your brain starts cookin....

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:23 | 4995357 jomama
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Y! = legit

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:22 | 4995358 ShrNfr
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Oh rats. Let is flea!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:33 | 4995663 HardlyZero
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It probably is the rats, meat, and their meat processing.  Might be just the worst vector for growing urban populations with lack of good protean sources.   Maybe if they just cook it long enuf...

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:48 | 4995982 ajax
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By Daniel Defoe

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:25 | 4995363 Flounder
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Now there's some folks who would swim the Rio Grande to get the fuck out.  We should offer them refuge on our military bases.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:29 | 4995377 Oldwood
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This is when weapons with some range have greater appeal.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:28 | 4995373 goose fat
Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:47 | 4995463 Herd Redirectio...
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Well, it is rather common for sickness to follow malnutrition...

Never mind if people stop getting fresh water.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:31 | 4995383 Otto Zitte
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Say goodbye to your friends in Yumen City

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:51 | 4995476 Oldwood
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Its OK. They got more.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:29 | 4995645 sof_hannibal
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solid point

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:33 | 4995390 buzzsaw99
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you don't french kiss a sick chicken

you don't spit in the wind

you don't grape a dead orangutan corpse

and you don't mess around with marmot pelts...

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:33 | 4995393 The Abstraction...
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Tell that to the Israelis.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:34 | 4995397 dobermangang
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Party like it's 1349!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:36 | 4995402 sixsigma cygnus...
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They sealed off a whole city because of Bubonic Plague? Why isn't DC sealed off? 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:39 | 4995413 Oldwood
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Because DC's disease has already spread throughout the country, from sea to shining sea.

Not to say we shouldn't burn it anyway...just to be safe.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:53 | 4995481 Herd Redirectio...
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I think the saying goes: "We'll have to nuke it from orbit.  Its the only way to be sure."

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:05 | 4995556 Oldwood
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I suppose, but I think it would much more cathartic if we could get close enough to watch it burn, don't you? A nuke is so impersonal. Its almost like droning someone. That's the thing Muslims have shown us is the power of the "up close and personal". The power of a dull knife over a AK47. It leaves an impression.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:15 | 4995601 Winston Churchill
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Thats despicable,you might cut yourself.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:10 | 4995583 Esso
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Weyland-Yutani Corp. & the US Colonial Marines bump. +1

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 01:58 | 4996882 The Chief
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Constantinople; summer, 1334. It marched through the streets, the sewers. It left the city by oxcart, by sea, to kill half of Europe. The rats, rustling and squealing in the night as they, too, died. The rats...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:07 | 5000176 are we there yet
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DC is waiting for the congressional pustules to pop. Or get re elected.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:38 | 4995411 are we there yet
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Go long on China cat futures.  China could mandate one child, one cat for each family.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:38 | 4995412 tony wilson
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sometin gotta give brothers.


more silent wars on us humans.

cia,mossad and mi6 rothschild project

or china man inside job

folks gotta die

so the rape can continue init.


a simple test would be able too tell what military lab this distemper is from.

military labs yes


maybe we should ask bill gates maybe he has a vaccine

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:40 | 4995422 Oldwood
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Gates probably owns Racoon City.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:00 | 4995527 Herd Redirectio...
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Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation = Umbrella Corp?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:44 | 4995429 DarthVaderMentor
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Pretty soon will be sealing off Kolorado from the rest of the US and maybe even Kalifornia......just like the State Department and Jane Psaki, the Obama CDC leadership believes it can use Twitter hashtags to stop the spread of bubonic plague!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:00 | 4995523 Oldwood
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So does the reefer fight off the diseases or just make sure nobody gives a damn?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:16 | 4995605 Winston Churchill
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Duh, who cares ?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:42 | 4995434 SmittyinLA
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of course US experts are perplexed, they're welcoming a diseased criminal invasion.


...... this seems a very expansive response to just one case

Why worry, they only have 1.2 billion potential human victims. 

Heaven forbid we should observe and follow the Chinese who have thousands of years experience with disease and high density cities.


I'm thinking the Obama invasion will kill public transportation, it may take a few years, but eventually every public bus/airplane in America will be a contaminated TB incubation chamber, followed by DRTB then MDRTV.

Would you ride a bus fly in an airplane if there was a 10% TB rate?  

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:43 | 4995445 kito
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hey tyler, one person makes an "outbreak"? are we stooping to msm headline standards now?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:47 | 4995462 Oldrepublic
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The Chinese take flu virus very, very seriously. Once a few years ago I transited Beijing airport from Hong Kong to New York. In Beijing when the plane landed no one was allowed off the plane until a lady dressed in what appeared to be a bio hazard suit  put a thermometer into every passengers ear to check the temperature. A slight elevation in one’s temperature would get one a free stay in a local hotel for a couple of weeks for quarantine

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:51 | 4995472 Oldwood
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It could have been worse. At least they took your temperature in your ear....

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:51 | 4995471 q99x2
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They could have built a freeway like the 405 and it would have been much worse than the plague.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:02 | 4995537 Skateboarder
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I was one of a handful of cars on an eerily empty 405 on the day of 'Carmageddon.' It was beautiful man.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:59 | 4995519 schrodingers-cat
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"We have cases of bubonic plague from time to time in the United States, and they don't require this kind of public health response," 

Of course no domestic issues here ever get much of a response... 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:40 | 4995681 HardlyZero
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China may have a large rat population in an urban setting with few other sources of protean.  It could be the rat meat and handling. 

Many French dishes have rat meat alternates...back when there were few other meats in Paris.

Before modern meats...

Some still eat squirrel meat/brains in the US.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:59 | 4995524 kowalli
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Lets ask USA - Can you stop killing people?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:05 | 4995554 Circle of DNA
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I wonder what "kind soul" released this bacteria/virus there and for what purpose.
Is it Bill Gates, with his obsession of depopulation?  

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:21 | 4995858 lakecity55
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Well, only after he would have innoculated himself.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:29 | 4996149 Things that go bump
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I don't think there is an innoculation against plague. They use prophylactic antibiotics to treat the exposed. It used to be tetracycline, I don't know about now. 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:22 | 4995625 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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McMarmet's and Kentuky Fried Marmots are closing all over the shitt.


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:27 | 4995640 sof_hannibal
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isn't China where the first black death started or the second outbreak. I swear, the more things change

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 09:45 | 4997528 Leraconteur
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Very recent - 2011 - research has backdated the Yersinia pestis bacteria and the conclusion is that this came from China  (Yunnan origiinally it is believed as those bacteria are the ones compared) on ticks on rats.

First plague was Justiinian Plague AD541 and probably from China as well due to first contact and Roman consulates set up in China, the first contact with China by anyone as far as we know now.

Second plague is the one everyone knows about. That began likely due to germ warfare by Mongol Mercenaries laying seige to Crimean forts. Soldiers fled via vessel through Bosphorus, get to Europe, everone died. The Mongol Mercenaries were under orders from the Mongol Empire, and the leader of the Mongol Empire was headquartered in Beijing, Qingdao or Karakorum.

IOW, the late Yuan Dynasty is responsible for killing everyone in Europe AD1346-1352.

This came back every ten years or so, last major one in the late 19th. C. India and China.

Whilst many Genoesian and Venetian merchants and missionaries traveled to that part of the world in 1346-52, the path of the Black Death indicates that it came from Crimea, and no one who traveled arrived there sick. They actually returned after all had died.

This was an intentional act, and it got waaaaay out of hand.

Good luck getting the Chinese to ever discuss this, now that evidence points to them. They will reply that it is a Western plot and bias, and that no Chinese scientists or researchers have done the research and thus the conclusion does not exist. They will also likely discuss that Europeans did not bathe at all at this time, and they will mention this 1,000 year period of no bathing and that poor hygiene caused this.

Chinese are never wrong, ever.

It's not a big deal now - most broad spectrum antibiotics knock this down - but the accounts of it are very similar to the accounts of the Spanish Flu of September 1918 wrt time and speed. This thing was so virulent, and few had immunity, that you could wake up with aches pains and what you thought was a cold and be dead by dinner time. Both would cause a fatal immune system response. Your body would kill you as it tried to fight off the disease. Killed the young and healthy faster than those over 40.

Nasty, nasty stuff.

But these last 3 weeks in an area and then it moves on.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 12:54 | 4998952 Herd Redirectio...
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"The Mongol Mercenaries were under orders from the Mongol Empire, and the leader of the Mongol Empire was headquartered in Beijing, Qingdao or Karakorum."

Just this part I disagree with.  I don't think you can blame the Chinese.  The Plague came from the Crimea, the Mongols in that part of the empire (extreme west, and southwest) were LARGELY Turkish and Slavic. 

I have heard Russian historians (or revisionists, in the eyes of some) translate Karakorum as Czarskiye Khoromy, The Czar's Mansion.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 03:01 | 5002480 Leraconteur
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The Mongols captured Alans from Iran and Europe to act as the Kheshig guard. Ethnic mercenaries from all over Eurasia were captured and pressed into service by the Mongols.

Their ethnicity does not absolve The Chinese, the Yuan, the Mongol Empire, or the Mongols from the orders they gave to those various ethnic groups.

The excuses only come forth when discussing the non-white, yet most would blame the USA for the acts of an Italian captain funded by Spaniards when the USA is still a mostly Engish speaking culture.

It makes no sense - but Politcal Correctness never did.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:29 | 4995647 Leraconteur
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Chinese often have very poor health and hygiene habits. This town is middle of nowhere, much smaller than you internet jockeys will think when you search and see its pop. is 100k. More like 10k and 90k in the outlaying areas - a typical way to define 'city' in China.

Chinese are very money hungry and cheap, as well as traditional. They also like to be 'Green' as it justifies not spending money on hot water, heat, or aircon. It gives them international face to the UN and progressives. They look good and they get to hoard moar money. Win Win Win.

Thus you have people who bathe/shower once a week or once a month (tradition), who wash only their face, hands and feet on a daily basis (tradition). If that. This saves water (green). The water they use is cold (save money on heating hot water), perhaps 100 milli litres (if you lived in China and saw them toss the used water out on to the sidewalk at your feet, you would know this volume is true). Every drop of water is precious (national green slogan), so they use little or none of it. In winter they will not bathe at all as that causes illness (tradition and TCM).

Many, and this is hundred's of millions, have hygiene habits that are from AD500.

If you looked at the feet of many Chinese in summer as they wear sandals, you would see that many have dirty feet.

It is easy to assume that many in western Gansu will be living like this (dirty and not bathing), and it's easy to see that the risk of this spreading could be high in a poor, waterless, dusty, area full of non-bathing peasants.

So, yeah - this response is understandable.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:55 | 4995751 Beowulf55
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OK, maybe I'm missing something here.  Plague comes from fleas found on rats...........or did I miss something in my Black Plague history course.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:18 | 4995841 lakecity55
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No, you are correct. Rats are the hosts, the fleas the carriers.

Now, why DC isn't bubbling with plague, I have no idea. There are at least 535 Rats loose in the district already!

It is something of a mystery.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 01:18 | 4996842 napper
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It's a mutated form of the plague, with disastrous effects on the people who collectively put those rats in DC. Karma?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:57 | 4996270 Things that go bump
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Bubonic plague starts with the bite of an infected flea, infecting the lymph nodes and causing buboes. It is pretty avoidable as long as you keep away from rodents and keep your pets flea-free. If it becomes septicemic your fingers and toes and nose and other small bits turn black, which is why it was called the Black Death. If it infects the lungs it becomes pneumonic plague and is airborne, carried in droplets coughed up by the sick and is highly contagious. It wasn't just flea bites that killed an estimated third to two thirds of the population of Europe and I've seen similar estimates for the population of China. Though treatable with antibiotics, if caught during a very small window of opportunity, often missed because it isn't diagnosed in time, pneumonic plague has mortality rate that approaches 100% if not treated in the first 24 hours of symptom onset. Even with treatment, the bubonic plague has a 13% mortality rate and a 30 to 60% mortality rate if untreated. 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:15 | 4995825 lakecity55
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Bath House: Minion!! What do you mean the germs were let loose in China?? I said Chinatown! Chinatown, like San Francisco! Am I the only one who does any work here?

Minion: Sorry, sir, a thousand aplogies.

BHB: Fix it! I'll be at the mosque and then the golf course.

Minion: Inshallah.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:18 | 4995847 lasvegaspersona
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Yersinia pestis is deadly but really does not spread from person to person unless it gets to the lungs and becomes airborne (pneumonic plague). In the form with just shin lesions (bubonic plague) it is still acquired from fleas.

I agree it is quite an over-reaction. One wonders if there is not another reason to seal off the city.

Anyone got contact with residents there?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:04 | 4996044 NoWayJose
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The first Black Death decimated the Early Middle Ages where the population clustered into crowded cities (for protection) and had the obvious problems with sanitation and hygiene and rats. Interesting that today we also have crowded cities (across the globe), many poor new immigrants or newly unemployed (who cannot afford good hygiene), skyrocketing food prices and declining real wages (meaning less for hygiene and maintenance), general decay of cities and their ability to cut grass and handle abandoned houses, and of course, lots of rats! We probably are as close to a 'perfect plague/pandemic' environment since the 1300's.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 22:33 | 4996398 3rd Pig
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Black Swans, Black Death – it’s like I don’t want to get out of bed in the morning - and now this, what if the bodies being repatriated from the Ukraine to all points of the globe are carrying some biohazard shit?

I may get the Swine flu..!


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 23:12 | 4996545 TabakLover
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Every so often, this old planet decides to cleanse itself of parasites.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 23:14 | 4996554 RogueLibertarian
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World War Z...the book not the movie.

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