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Confused Hamas Demands Truce But Only On Its Terms

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Judging by the total lack of reaction across any markets, traders are just as confused by the headlines blurting out of Hamas leader Mashaal:

  • *MASHAAL SAYS 'WE ARE FOR A TRUCE BUT WE ARE PATIENT' (wait... you just said)

So there may be a truce, there may not be... Mashall adds "we are ready to accept a humanitarian truce" but any truce "must" mean a lifting of the embargo on Gaza; oh and "nobody can disarm the Palestinian resistance... does not sound too hopeful.

Via Bloomberg


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Doesn;t exactly sound like peace to us?


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Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:50 | 4994318 krispkritter
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Schizophrenic much?  "Look! A squirrel!" (missile launches in the background) BOOM!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:53 | 4994349 clones2
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Soooo... Are Hamas the good-guys or the bad ones?   I can never remember...

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:55 | 4994360 john39
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hamas was created by Israel...  a prior version of al-cia-duh...   great excuse to kill palestinian kids and steal more land.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:58 | 4994372 Pinto Currency
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This whole thing was started when Israel said Hamas killed 3 Israeli boys and then Israel started bombing the bejeesez out of Gaza.

Still awaiting the evidence that Hamas killed the 3 Israeli boys.  Have seen some YouTube clips on it so it must be true.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:59 | 4994382 john39
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Ron Paul- Israel created hamas:

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:09 | 4994436 SilverIsKing
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MASHAAL law in Gaza now.

MARTIAL law in the US soon.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:26 | 4994539 Divided States ...
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MASHAAL's words kinda reminds me of those of OBAMA's.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:12 | 4994767 Pool Shark
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Hamas is the Black Knight:

 "Alright; we'll call it a draw."


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:37 | 4994878 Stackers
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Does their stipulation of the embargo being lifted also include the Eygptian embargo ? Because Gaza has a border with Israel and with Eygpt, and the Egyptians have a giant isolation wall and tunnel hunting program as well ..... I wonder why ...

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:09 | 4995049 Quus Ant
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Well? Why do you think Stackers?  Because Palestinians are subhuman? 

Because Egypt doesn't want 2 million Palestinian refugees?  Please.  Enlighten.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:55 | 4995235 Stackers
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Still trying to figure out myself, since there is no such thing as a "Palestinian" and Gaza was Egyptian terrority before the 1967 "Six-day" war and everyone still living there are Egyptians. My own "opinion" is that leaving the Egyptians living in Gaza in squalor with a bunch of psychopathic militant zealots in charge makes for a handy propaganda tool for the arabs, and that is why they continue to abandon them to their insanity.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:35 | 4995396 The Blank Stare
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Well, if somebody made me a prisoner in my own land, controlled the power, food, money, travel, information, and everthing else, I'd sure as hell never give in, and never surrender. 

Especially when the prison guard is getting a million a minute from mother USA.


Fuck the Zionists! The evil twisted bastards.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:43 | 4995441 Stackers
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and I will repeat my question .... where does Egypt fall into that rant ????  becuase Egypt treats Gaza the exact same way the "Zionist" do. No food, No energy. No travel. Big Wall. Destroy all tunnels being dug under it. So is Eygpt part of the grand Zionist conspiracy now too ?


The problem is a LOT more complicated.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:49 | 4995468 The Blank Stare
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The Eyptian government is also a puppet of mother USA. The whole "free money" thing is very addictive. But the average citizen is not. The secret tunnels have to come out somewhere? 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:30 | 4996157 Frostfan1
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The reason is simple. If Egypt ends blockade, Israel says you break it , you bought it and Israel can slam the door forever on them and the whole farce of being victims in garza is over. Why do you think meshaal said more patience. The one state Palestine goal is dead once the Egypt blockade is over.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 00:23 | 4996742 Hugh_Jorgan
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Uh, we pretty much live that way in the USA now. Most successful Arab Israelis happily work in Israel, all are full citizens, all have full voting rights and can participate in the Knesset. Nothing is being blocked in or out of Gaza unless it is some tyle of weapon or ordinance. Not that I like the Knesset. Israel's government is a joke, but it is based on European Socialism, what do you expect. Oh well, the US government is a nightmare as well. That is because it is made up of men.

None of Israel's neighbors cared about this little sliver of land and no body wanted the "Palestinians" around until the lawful soverign of that land carved out the Jewish state for the Jews with a nod from the entire world after the holocaust. Today it is just an excuse to hate what you don't understand.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:19 | 4994808 WelfareFTW
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Dont be insulting... to Mashaal

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:10 | 4994446 Save_America1st
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Unconditional surrender and full de-weaponization of everyone in that shit hole.  Or else...

Nuke 'em from's the only way to be sure...


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:19 | 4994486 Colonel Klink
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Yep take away everyone's weapons, just before the final solution.

Worked well for Pol Pot, Hitler, and a host of other despots like Israel.

Waiting for the hasbara team to enter this thread in 3...2...1...

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:34 | 4994597 MeMongo
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Correct Colonel! There always lurking waiting to pounce like child predators. Mongo has noticed lately they've become choosy on which fights to engage in though. Must be cuz they keep getting their asses handed to them.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:15 | 4994785 Pool Shark
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I thought you were only a pawn in the game of life???


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 22:37 | 4996416 MeMongo
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True Mr Shark!

Mongo is an habitual underachiever. Please rate him high for effort :-)

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:42 | 4994908 Colonel Klink
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Thanks team Hasbara for all the verification.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:03 | 4995546 Kirk2NCC1701
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If we want peace over there -- and the MIC and Neocons do not! -- then either Egypt needs to donate part of the wasted Sinai and carve our a legitimate state of Palestinians, or Israel needs to stop pretending that they don't want to "sterilize" the whole area and actually do it.  This shite is getting tiring.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:22 | 4995617 sessinpo
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john39   Ron Paul- Israel created hamas:


Sorry dude. Hamas was created by the Muslim Brotherhood through Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood was created in 1928, well before Israel became a nation state. Yes, maybe Israel wanted Hamas to counter Arafat. But that is far different from your post and RP's suggestion that Israel created Hamas.

You really need to get off your anti semetic crap. Maybe I'll  start picking you apart like I have so many others.

But quite frankly, I am too consumed with work that I don't spend as much time on ZH as I use to. And your anti semetic false information bores me.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:12 | 4995066 Xiuhcoatl
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Hi, Pinto -

Hostilities from the Israeli side was the response to thousands of rockets launched by Hamas at Israeli targets over the last couple of years. We (I'm Israeli) asked Hamas to stop many, many times, in many ways, but they didn't listen. Sadly, we had to respond.

Hamas's use of rockets is not theatre. It is an attempt to demoralize our population and to slowly drive us from the land. Hamas does not recognize any right of Jewish domain in the entire Middle East, not in Tel Aviv or any points north or south of it. This is not acceptable to us.

Imagine you lived in Texas and Mexican "activists" started firing rockets at your town, explaining that the USA stole Texas from Mexico and they intend to take it back. Maybe you could flee to another state. We don't have that option. And we like it here.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:41 | 4995206 Pinto Currency
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Imagine I lived in Texas and someone from Chile seized half of Texas.

Then that group from Chile financed a radical group that wanted Texas back again.

Why would the Chilean Texans want to radicalize the native Texans?


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:40 | 4995386 Xiuhcoatl
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If I understand your allusions, Pinto, you're saying that today, Hamas is merely an Israeli tool?
Why would Abbas' group -- the PLO / Al Fatah -- willingly join with Hamas in a unity government? Surely they and the entire Muslim world would already know that Hamas is secretly controlled by Israel.

That makes no sense. I must be misunderstanding you.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:41 | 4995427 The Blank Stare
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One of your fellow Israeli's disagrees with you. It's Israel that breaks the cease-fire agrements more often than Hamas.

DId you see that? I just caught you lying.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 00:53 | 4995705 Pinto Currency
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Imagine the Chilean-Texans were militarily superior and wanted to pound the other Texans into complete submission.

Maybe even slowly squeeze them out of their land positions.

Now you can't do that if the Texans are all walking around like Bambis. 

In that hypothetical case a radicalized opponent would be quite valuable.

So Chile would release, encourage, and fund, radical Texan leaders while suppressing more moderate Texan elements.

Agitating and fomenting unrest among an oppressed and poor population is a well known and not too difficult game - and nobody would expect that the more radical anti Chilean-Texan elements were being funded by the Chilean-Texans themselves.  That would be too crazy.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:15 | 4994481 Duffy
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Not sure why you're gettign junked.  There's no serious question Israel created Hamas to split the Pal's politically.  For fuck's sake, there's a good chance some of them are Israeli agents - providing excuses on demand for pre-existing plans to dispense more pain to the average bear. 

And no matter the kind of munitions Israel drops - don't expect the media to cover it or the UN to do a thing.

There's also no question the CIA helped organize the original Al Qaeda franchise... 


But I guess, as always, certain truths one just isn't supposed to mention.  Like Netanyahu accusing Iran, falsely, of working on nukes for over 20 years now, all while building more of his own with stuff stolen from the US - about which the US knows, but did nothing because it would be "anti-Semitic" to point out Israeli espionage - which is why the US, sooner or later, is going to be thrown under the bus in some major way, by its Zionist ally.


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:44 | 4994530 Colonel Klink
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Or Israeli prime ministard Nuttyahoo (sic) trying to blackmail Bill Clinton.

According to allegations in the book, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu used the tapes to try to persuade Clinton to release Jonathan Pollard, an American caught and jailed for spying for Israel.

Clinton lobbied for Pollard’s release but his attempts were ultimately thwarted by CIA Director George Tenet.

EDIT:  Yep downvote historical fact.

Amazing they're always being persecuted or prosecuted, but it's all just a great big misunderstanding.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:01 | 4994718 DaveyJones
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Funny how we never hear from the regular people

Check out this presentation from an Israeli' General's son 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:08 | 4995041 Duffy
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part of hasbara is literally not caring about the very idea of "truth".

Look, when you believe that the ancient Hebrews had a vast and might kingdom [despite a lack of very many artifacts] and you're a direct descendent, notwithstanding a family that had been in Poland for 1000+ years - you're already on thin ice as to reality, anyway....


The Way of the Rabbi -   Racism, intolerance and the Jews

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:55 | 4995745 FeralSerf
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The US, or at least the US our ancestors knew, has already been "thrown under the bus in some major way, by its Zionist ally".

Remember 9/11? Remember the USS Liberty? Remember the freedoms we had 50 years ago?

With allies like the Zionists, why would we need any other enemies?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:03 | 4994653 caconhma
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"Confused Hamas Demands Truce But Only On Its Terms".  Really?


Hamas in Gaza has built a huge underground network of tunnels. So Israeli can easily bomb civilian targets like schools, hospitals, etc., but Hamas leadership and its fighters are safe and active using this underground network. 

Consequently, things are not so peachy for Israilis. How long can Israeli sustain this fight? This time Israeli have to fight their own war instead of using other Muslims. It is not their cup of tee. Remember the war in Lebanon with Hezbollah ? It did not go too well!


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:56 | 4994364 Pinto Currency
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Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:55 | 4994690 toady
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Exactly. We will not give any concessions, and all of our demands must be met, or there will be no truce.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:20 | 4994511 Colonel Klink
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Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:50 | 4994327 icanhasbailout
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Was the Arabic word used "hudna"?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:50 | 4994331 RobM1981
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From the people who brought you Baghdad Bob...



Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:53 | 4994348 Skateboarder
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Don't forget Saad Maan. ;-)

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:51 | 4994337 Skateboarder
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What the fuck! Bodies strewn on the streets and the order of any semblance of 'normal' life gone topsy-turvy... and this motherfucker wants patience?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:56 | 4994367 disabledvet
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It ain't like he's in Gaza.

This is more like a "media declared cease fire."
More time for tunneling and "Obama diplomacy"...all in the name of peace of course.

Pretty soon Tel Aviv will be the next Port Au Prince.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:51 | 4994339 NOTaREALmerican
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I'm withholding judgement until I hear what Josh Earnestly has to say about this. 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:29 | 4995151 TheRedScourge
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Pretty sure he's just gonna earnestly try to josh you.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:52 | 4994340 clones2
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All your TRUCE are belong to us...

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:52 | 4994342 Stoploss
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Might want to rethink that one.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:57 | 4994374 disabledvet
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Take our guns please!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:38 | 4994895 teslaberry
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they can rip your arms off with bombs!. hell yea go israel!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:53 | 4994343 undercover brother
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It seems Hamas runs in the same circles as the highly compensated businessmen who demand taxpayer bailouts after running their companies into the ground.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:52 | 4994346 1stepcloser
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our terms.


1.  You now call us Hummus

2.  You allow our rockets to enter your airspace and detonate on your Heeb property

3.  Fuck You!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:51 | 4994959 toady
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Okay Hummus, you got a deal!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:54 | 4994347 Duffy
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for fuck's sake Tylers, he is, after all, dealing with Bibi and the Israelis. There's no benefit to not being confusing...


no mention of Gaza's gas?


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:06 | 4994420 ShorTed
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Arm them all and walk away.  Let 'em sort it out themselves.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:30 | 4994561 Colonel Klink
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Arm them all EQUALLY and walk away.  Let 'em sort it out themselves.


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:56 | 4994979 toady
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Fuck that equally stuff! Over equip one side, then the other, in ever-increasing cost structures.

That's how the MIC makes the big bucks!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:27 | 4995639 sessinpo
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ShorTed    Arm them all and walk away.  Let 'em sort it out themselves.


Israel already has enough arms to wipe all their enemies out. But they don't.

So it is either a Zionist conspiracy or maybe Israel only wants to defend its right to exist. Everyone recognizes Israel as a nation except Islamic Radicals. So if you are against Israel, you are on the side of Islamic Radicals.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:13 | 4994467 jay28elle
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Something has got to change. Maybe an educated, articulate and half way intelligent person will show up on Hamas' side and can convince Hamas and the Palestinians that (a) continually lobbing 1,000's of missiles at innocent children is not smart practice, (b) re-nigging on agreements is not smart practice, (c) hiding weapons and munitions caches in schools is not smart practice, (d) using Palestinians as human shields is not smart practice, (e), etc...


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:22 | 4994512 Duffy
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maybe you need to expand your reading list, kidd.  Hamas rocket fire followed IDF airstrikes.  As usual. Like "Iran's nukes" or "Iraq's WMDs" it is all a ruse.  Maybe if you had been in my line of work instead of a troll depending on CNN for his news, you'd have some ability to stop being such a sophomoric Israel-is-always-the-victim cunt.  



Extension of the Gas War to the Levant by Thierry Meyssan

After three years of war against Syria, "Westerners" have deliberately expanded their offensive to Iraq and Palestine. Behind the apparent political contradictions between religious and secular parties, strong economic interests explain this strategy. In the Levant, numerous groups have several times changed camps, but gas deposits are immutable.

Every war being undertaken by a coalition naturally has multiple objectives in order to meet the specific interests of each member of the coalition.

From this point of view, the fights now raging in Palestine, Syria and Iraq have in common that they are led by a bloc formed by the United States against the peoples who resist them, to continue the remodeling of the “Greater Middle East” and change the global energy market.

About this last point, two things can change: the layout of the pipelines and the exploitation of new deposits. [1]

The War to Control Pipelines in Iraq

Since the beginning of the war against Syria, NATO has been trying to cut the [East-West] Tehran-Damascus (NIORDC, INPC) nexus to the advantage of an alternative [South-North] corridor allowing the transfer of both Qatari gas (Exxon-Mobil ) and that of Saudi Arabia (Aramco) via the Syrian coast [2].

A decisive step was taken with the Islamic Emirate offensive in Iraq that has split the country longitudinally and separated Iran on the one hand and on the other hand, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. [3]

This visible goal determines who will sell their gas to Europe, and therefore the volume of supply and the selling price. That explains that the three major gas exporters (Russia, Qatar, and Iran) are involved in this war.

The War of Conquest Over Syrian Gas

NATO has added a second goal: the control of gas reserves in the Levant and their exploitation. Though everyone knows that for decades the Southern Mediterranean contains large gas fields in the territorial waters of Egypt, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey and Cyprus, only "Westerners" have known, since 2003, how these fields were laid out and how they extended under the continent.

As revealed by Professor Imad Fawzi Shueibi [4], at the time, a Norwegian company, Ansis, lawfully conducted in Syria a survey of the country, in cooperation with the national oil company. Ansis also worked with another Norwegian company, Sagex. Both, having corrupted an intelligence official, secretly conducted research in three dimensions and discovered the incredible extent of Syrian reserves. These are larger than those of Qatar.

Thereafter, Ansis was acquired by Veritas SSGT, a Franco-American company based in London. The data were immediately revealed to the French, US, British and Israeli governments who soon concluded their alliance to destroy Syria and steal its gas.

After the United States had, in 2010, entrusted to France and the UK the care of recolonising Syria, they formed a coalition called "Friends of Syria". It convened a "Working Group on Economic Reconstruction and Development" held in May 2012 in the United Arab Emirates, under German Presidency. [5] Sixty countries then divided the cake they had not yet conquered. Of course, most participants were unaware of the Ansis discoveries and Sagex. The Syrian National Council was represented in the working group by Osama al-Kadi, former head of British Gas for the application of military strategies in the energy market.

It was not until the summer of 2013 that the Syrian government was informed of the findings of Ansis and Sogex, understanding then how Washington had managed to form the coalition trying to destroy the country. Since then, President Bashar al-Assad has signed contracts with Russian companies for their future exploitation.

Gas in Israel, Palestine and Lebanon

For its part, British Gas was exploring Palestinian reserves, but Israel opposed their use, fearing that the royalties be used to buy weapons.

In July 2007, the new special envoy of the Quartet (UN, EU, Russia, USA), Tony Blair, negotiated an agreement between Palestinians and Israelis to exploit the Marine-1 and Marine-2 fields in Gaza. The Prime Minister of the Palestinian Authority, Salam Fayyad, agreed that British Gas would pay royalties due to the Palestinian Authority to a bank account controlled by London and Washington so as to garantee that this money would be used for economic development.

At the time, the former Chief of Staff of the Israeli army, General Moshe Ya’alon, published a sensational forum on the website of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs in which he observed that this agreement did not solve the problem because ultimately Hamas would receive a portion of the money as long as it was in power in Gaza. He concluded that the only way to ensure that the manna would not fund the Resistance was to launch a "comprehensive military operation to uproot Hamas in Gaza" [6].

In October 2010, things got complicated again with the discovery of a mega gas field offshore by Noble Energy Inc., The Leviathan, in Israeli and Lebanese territorial waters, in addition to that discovered by British Gas in 2001, Tamar. [7]

Lebanon, at the instigation of Hezbollah, immediately notified the UN and asserted its rights to exploitation. However, Israel started extracting gas from these common pockets without taking Lebanese objections into account.

The war for Palestinian gas

The current Israeli offensive against Gaza has several objectives. First, the Mossad organized the announcement of the kidnapping and death of three young Israelis to prevent the Knesset from passing a law prohibiting the release of "terrorists". [8] Then, the current Minister of Defence, General Moshe Ya’alon, used this as a pretext to launch an offensive against Hamas, applying his 2007 analysis [9].

The new Egyptian president, General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, hired Tony Blair to advise him, without the latter resigning for as much from his position as representative of the Quartet [10]. Pursuing his advocacy for British Gas, he then suggested a "peace initiative" perfectly unacceptable to the Palestinians, who refused while Israel accepted it. This manoeuvre was clearly intended to provide an opportunity for the IDF to continue its offensive to "uproot Hamas from Gaza." It is not irrelevant that Tony Blair is not remunerated for this work by Egypt, but by the United Arab Emirates.

As usual, Iran and Syria supported the Palestinian Resistance (Hamas and Islamic Jihad). In this way, they also showed Tel Aviv they have the ability to hurt it as much in Palestine as it did in Iraq through the Islamic Emirate and the Barzanis.

Only by reading events from an energy point of view can they be understood. For it is not politically in the interest of Israel to destroy Hamas, which it helped create to relativize Fatah. Nor is it in the interest of Syria to help it resist since it allied itself with NATO and sent jihadists to fight against the country. Gone is the period of the "Arab Spring", which was supposed to bring to power the Muslim Brotherhood (of which Hamas is the Palestinian branch) in all of the Arab countries. Ultimately Anglo-Saxon imperialism is ever driven by economic ambitions, which it imposes to the detriment of local political dynamics. The cleavage, which sustains structures in the Arab world, is not between religious and secular parties, but between resistors to and collaborators with imperialism.


Maybe educated and half-way intelligent people will follow the money, and stop buying the absurd cover stories and lies of warmongering governments, and a bought and paid for, spooked-out MSM.


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:05 | 4995022 RichardP
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Can you explain in a few words what destroying Hamas' weapons systems has to do with the article you quoted?  It is possible for the article you quoted to be correct, and yet have nothing to do with the reason for the destruction of weapons systems that is going on in Gaza now.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:19 | 4995843 FeralSerf
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How about: "lots more money for the Rothschilds and their bed partners"? Is that few enough words?

Having control of Europe's gas supply without the problem of Hamas and the Palestinians wanting and having the resources to get a piece of the action should be worth a trillion or so $$$ -- maybe even more if they can keep Russian gas out of the European market and there's some frozen Europeans to increase the price and demand.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:27 | 4995890 The Blank Stare
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Go back to your "Play Kitchen", connecting the dots seems to be too difficult for you still.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 23:18 | 4996568 undercover brother
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What, and this article you posted isn't propoganda too?  just because you read it and you believe it to be true, doesn't make it so.   perhaps you should do some more reading too before accusing others of the same.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:53 | 4994350 luckystars
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You would be confused too

watching total genocide.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 14:59 | 4994381 disabledvet
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Not as long as Bloomberg is broadcasting it.

Time for the Dr Mengele hour!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:47 | 4994572 Colonel Klink
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Dr. Mengele's family soon to be suing for royalties for naming usage.

EDIT:  I must add that guy was one sick, cruel individual from things I've read about his work.  May he burn and rot in hell forever.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:10 | 4995050 RichardP
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He won't - because hell itself won't last forever:

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.  Revelation 20:14 (kjv)

Or are you referring to some other hell?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:22 | 4995124 Colonel Klink
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Well whichever one the big story book refers to.  You know, with the guy who wears the red suit with the pointy tail and pitchfork.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:22 | 4995865 FeralSerf
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The Second Law of Thermodynamics (increasing entropy) prevents him from burning forever. All good things must come to an end.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:43 | 4994915 Frostfan1
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The genocide argument has just been disproven.  Meshaal just blew up the argument.  Since when does a genocide victim pick and choose terms for it to end?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:25 | 4995884 FeralSerf
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The Zionists picked and chose terms for the genocide to end in 1945. They rejected the terms that Eichmann proposed.

Ergo, according to your argument, "The Holocaust" has just been disproven. I guess that makes you a holocaust denier, eh?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:34 | 4996172 Frostfan1
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Thanks for the most ridiculous post I ever read LOL.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 11:35 | 4998461 FeralSerf
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You're very welcome. I see you're laughing at your "logic" too. Or was that just the ADL script you were reading?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:45 | 4994924 teslaberry
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600 have died. half civilians. 


300 civilians dead. 5000 injured at most. 


gaza gas over 4000 babies born per month. ah yes genocide. don't worry, we got the weapons you don't, so just sit back and relax and enjoy being impoverished toolbags. 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:00 | 4994387 Canucklehead
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Look, it's just a bunch of kids in Qatar who found his cellphone and are playing around.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:16 | 4994389 jay28elle
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Yeah, but all the stupid people who see words like 'Hamas, truce' will automatically think Hamas is willing to enter full faith negotiations, and ASSUME that this is something Israel will renig on or otherwise use as an excuse to kill untold numbers of Palestinian kids. Regardless of the facts or the full story.  Seen it lots of times before.



Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:03 | 4994399 q99x2
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Hamas goes good with tortilla chips and salsa.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:06 | 4994414 luckystars
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From Gaza City


 ·  19h

Outright massacres. My heart literally aches. The grief has become too devastating to even share or tweet. I want to shout, shout and shout.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:13 | 4995069 RichardP
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I agree. Damn that Hamas leadership to hell for placing their weapons systems in the middle of civilians so that masses of them would be killed - just for the optics of it.  The Hamas leadership should be strung up for what they are doing to the people they are responsible for.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:07 | 4994421 Iriestx
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Can we just glass both the heebs and towel heads and be done with this part of the globe?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:10 | 4994432 thismarketisrigged
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israel would be insane to  agree to a truce with these terrorists.


the only reason they want a truce is so they can fully re arm and we will be back to another conflict within a few months.


eliminate hamas now, do not worry what the world thinks of u israel, the entire world hates israel and the jews and will always do so regardless of whether u r right or wrong in ur actions.


take care of business once and for all.  the fact that no arab countries r coming to hamas defense is all u need to know.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:14 | 4994477 ShrNfr
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If you are an observent salaffi, you can only have a hudna if it is to your advantage and then only for a specific period of time. Old shake and bake himself said that.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:18 | 4994493 luckystars
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But Israel is insane....

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:15 | 4995088 RichardP
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Compared to what?

It is sane to place your weapons systems amongst the civilian population, so that masses will be killed when those weapons systems are destroyed???

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:29 | 4994851 Duffy
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"the entire world hates israel"

... and this has no legitimate basis, right?


you revolting puke, why not fuck off to some Israeli website and stop your jibba jabba on the sites of fair and reasonable gentlemen...


as to everyone hating Jews per se - not true, and as for widespread "anti-Semitism."  Look, pal, if people from ancient Roman philosophers to 15th century Polish Christians to victims of Bolshevik secret police in Russia in the 1930s all criticize a group, for similar reasons...

what stops you from wondering if maybe, just maybe, the victim in fact deserves some of the blame?

The Talmud and Torah and its hate certainly pre-dates Christian persecution....

Then there's the matter of fuckwits like you, who excuse any and all Israeli war crimes against the indigenous people of that bloody patch of ground based on ethnocentric myths and it seems, anti-Arab hate?



Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:23 | 4995122 RichardP
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I have not ever known a fair and reasonable gentleman to refer to someone as a revolting puke.

And what does something a group of Jews did to their Roman oppressors 2,000 years ago have to do with what is going on today?  The facts of today should be used to support or refute other facts of today.

O ... wait.  If we are going to refer to Jewish occupation by the Romans, perhaps that means we can seriously discuss the implications about not "stealing land" implicit in the two times that the Muslim world nearly overran Europe.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:36 | 4995672 sessinpo
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Up vote for you thismarketisrigged


We have a large number of anti semetic, Islamic radical supporting, American hating leftist on ZH lately. I call it like it is and I call you out.

Even if Israel didn't exist and all Jews were extinct, these leftist would be here spouting leftist propaganda (like John39). It is they that are the scourge of the earth and I'm about tired of being tolerant of them. I'm about to say, if you want a fight, bring it. I'll kick your ass any day.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:10 | 4994445 joego1
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shell shock and those strange emf wave the idf is shooting into gaza

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:12 | 4994455 ShrNfr
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He has been hitting the scotch too hard in his Doha hotel room. I guess the local broads musta walked out because he smelled too much like a camel too.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:19 | 4994509 Iwanttoknow
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To many Mossad trolls.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:27 | 4994545 Duffy
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Nah, ZH is nowhere near something those fellers could be bothered with.  You're dealing with hasbots, for sure, but most are individuals, and a few are... likely paid college trolls.

The worst of all are Jews from the US who move to Israel...  they're swimming in the kool-aid.  The average Israeli has his or her position, but except for the far right tend to be far less absurd and juvenile. 


You don't convince people with absurdities like 'fakestinians' or the naked lies you see by the teenage hasbots on CNN.


No a real pro will be careful to appear reasonable, and concede a point or two. 

I certainly don't know for sure, but would bet good money some "top commenters" on the NYT site are in fact pro trolls. 


In fairness, there's a lot of ostensible, genuine or not, nazi trolling too.  some is likely by hasbara trolls looking to discredit and associate, but there's no shortage of legit fuckwits... they always show up just in time to fuck up a perfectly decent argument.



Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:37 | 4995183 RichardP
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... a perfectly decent argument.


No argument here is perfectly decent until it first deals with the truth contained in this statment from Article 11 of the Hamas Charter:

This [norm] has prevailed since the commanders of the Muslim armies completed the conquest of Syria and Iraq.

In the middle of it's own charter, Hamas admits that the conquest and occupation of lands that belonged to someone else is an OK thing to do.

Given that truth - no "argument" that criticizes the Zionists for doing something that Hamas claims in the middle of their Charter is OK to do can be considered decent.

Duffy, perhaps a lack of understanding this point is what is driving you to embarrass yourself all over these last few threads about the current situation in Gaza?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:23 | 4994525 Dr. Everett V. Scott
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Even Israel is under the mistaken impression that Arabs negotiate in good faith.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:28 | 4994535 thismarketisrigged
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and to all u clueless fucks who believe that israels goal is too kill as many civilians as possible, well if that was the fucking case, considering israel is vastly superior militarily to hamas and the people of gaza, all they would have needed to do was drop a ton of bombs non stop for a half hour during the 1st day of the airstrikes and gaza would be completely wiped out.


considering israel decided to send in troops to gaza and risk israeli soldiers lives, its obvious they did that so they can target specific members of hamas, and try to avoid innocent civilians lives.


of course innocent civilians will die, and it happens in every war, not just involving israel believe it or not, but why would anyone care about that, only israel are the terrorists.


also, why the fuck would israel warn the people of gaza to get out if they wanted to kill as many ppl as possible? if u wanted to kill someone, would u say to them '' i am coming to ur house in 15 minutes to kill u, get out or ur dead'', or would u just show up without warning with a shotgun in hand and blow that person away? obviously a killer would do the latter.


also, its really sad how we have so many people on zerohedge who seem really brilliant when it comes to financial stuff, the markets, the rigging of them,  all this great insight, yet they believe everything in the media hamas says.


the only way hamas can win a war vs israel, and everyone knows this whether u r the biggest israel supporter or hater, is in the media, because they can not compete militarily.  they post pictures from different countries of dead bodies on the street and say it is from gaza today, when many of these pictures are different countries from many years ago.


when hamas says israel attacked a hospital, what they fail to mention is that the hospital had no  civilians in it and was being used as a headquarter for hamas members to launch attacks into israel.


this is a video from the fucking founder of hamas son, let me guess, he loves israel and was being paid by the mossad to say this stuff

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:31 | 4994857 Duffy
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bestg thing about your tirades is how you never fail to take Israel at its word, nor fail to assume Hamas rockets were fired 'first' and for no reason.


And some of Hamas' members are, just about fo sure, on Israel's payroll.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:48 | 4994948 thismarketisrigged
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ya, as opposed to your tirades where u represent a very fair and balanced point of view from both countries perspective.


u r just a jew hater like the majority of the world, u do not need to fucking make excuses that are total bullshit how u do not hate jews, and its because of this and this, just fucking say it.









Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:40 | 4995698 sessinpo
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Duffy   bestg thing about your tirades is how you never fail to take Israel at its word, nor fail to assume Hamas rockets were fired 'first' and for no reason.

 And some of Hamas' members are, just about fo sure, on Israel's payroll.


Well, that's odd. One could say the best thing about your tirades is how you never fail to take Islamic Radicals at their word or fail to assume that they those Islamic Radicals didn't fire first.

And for the payroll issue. Hamas was created by the Muslim Brotherhood through Egypt. That is the payroll.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:27 | 4994542 luckystars
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UN to investigate Israeli war crimes in Gaza

The United Nations Human Rights Council is to launch an inquiry investigating possible Israeli war crimes committed during the ongoing bombardment of the Gaza Strip, as the death toll in the Strip creeps towards 700.

The US was the only state to vote down a proposal to form an inquiry, with 29 states voting in favour of creating the commission, while 17 abstained.

Earlier in the day, it emerged that Israel had requested an urgent package of $225 m in military aid from the US, Israeli daily Haaretz reported.

US Secretary of Defence Chuck Hagel said on Wednesday that Israel is in urgent need of unspecified “parts” for its Iron Dome missile interception system which has so far intercepted the overwhelming majority of rockets, aimed at populated areas.

Hagel “personally endorsed” the Israeli request for the increased funding, reports New York Daily News, which would allow the shield to continue running during an apparent desperate shortage of parts.
- See more at:

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:31 | 4994565 thismarketisrigged
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i know ur anti israel and all, but using this un crap is garbage.


the un has hated israel forever.


the un investigates israel for war crimes but not hamas, makes lots of sense.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:34 | 4994587 luckystars
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USA all alone with evil Israel


true colors

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:39 | 4994611 Colonel Klink
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How could we not be, we're controlled by them.  From the mouth of satan himself:


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:42 | 4994619 thismarketisrigged
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the funny thing is u r a bigger hamas supporter, yet if u walked into gaza, good chance they kindnap u if not kill u, while if u ever went to israel, u would not need to worry about a thing,


truly shows how many people in this world r anti semetic, and please spare me this garbage about how israel stole land.


aside from the fact that it is not true, every country including america has plenty of land that they won in wars, so if u r against israel for that, i guess u r against america as well.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:51 | 4994666 Colonel Klink
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I don't support Hamas in any way whatsoever.  I feel for those innocents caught in the middle who are being slaughtered.

Did you ever wonder why people hate Americans so much, probably not because we're American per se, but because of the actions of our government.  Try expanding your thought process.  We always hear how evil Iran is, yet the average Iranian would open his home to me and feed me.  Wanting to have a conversation and ask a million questions.  One's people does not equal one's government.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:09 | 4994757 thismarketisrigged
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ok, so i totally understand feeling bad for the innocents caught in the middle of this, that makes sense.


however, let me ask u this being a smart guy that u r. if israels goal was to kill as many palestinians as they could,  why would they send troops in and risk there lives, rather than just carpet bomb gaza non stop and wipe it out completely, which if they really wanted to, could accomplish in a half hour?


also, u gotta realize, hamas is firing there rockets from hospitals, schools, civilians homes, they dont mind when there own people die, because it makes israel look terrible in the media, whether israel is at fault or not.


more ''innocent'' civilian deaths in gaza = israel looking bad which = victory for hamas in the publics eyes.


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:47 | 4994931 Colonel Klink
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I've never said it was Israel's goal to kill as many as they could.  Please place words in someone else's mouth.

In my opinion, it's a no win situation in it's current state.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:50 | 4995738 sessinpo
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I totally support your support for Israel. That doesn't mean Israel doesn't make mistakes. All governments do.

However, I wish you and others would express the fact that around Israel are Islamic Radicals.

And these Islamic Radicals are the problem. They would kill me, you and even the leftist supporters of these Islamic Radicals.

Islamic Radicalism has had thousands of years of history of trying to expand and conquer by killing innocent people of ALL faiths. 


Even if all Jews were dead, you would still have an Islamic Radical problem. How do you answer that lefties? I don't want anyone to give their life to fight this problem going back thousands of years. But I won't support those NAZI ISLAMIC RADICALS like the anti semetic people on ZH are (even without knowing it).

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:35 | 4995925 thismarketisrigged
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cant disagree with anything u have said,nicely said

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:40 | 4994902 Duffy
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Both bin laden and sheikh mohammad as well as a top "Al Qaeda"  {copyright 1978-2014 - CIA} captain or two specifically and repeatedly cited american support for Israel and Israel's occupation as a major reason [one of only 2 or 3] for 9/11.


Yet this aspect...why they hate us - is absolutely whitewashed...


leading to this situation:  You're supposed to believe that the patsy for 9/11 did 9/11, but not believe the reasons why he did so, you are instead supposed to believe the sayanim and assorted 5th columnist Zio-traitors whose primary loyalty is to the foreign state which actually did 9/11/ that the guy who didn't do 9/11 - did, and that he did so for reasons totally unrelated to Israel, even though he specifically mentioned Israel repeatedly.


Got it?



Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:27 | 4995130 thismarketisrigged
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so because al qadea was upset about americas support for israel, they decided to attack america, yet that is israels fault, right?


shows how brilliant u r, how about all al qadea attacks in africa, and all over europe, or mumbai, or all over the world in general, thats all because of israel as well, right?


u blaming israel for 9.11 due to ur reasoning would be like me attacking u because u r friends with someone i do not like, and then afterwards i blamed u for being attacked, because if u werenot friends with that person nothing would have happened.


its amazing how far u will go to deflect the blame from terrorists and put it on israel.


your whole life is a stupid conspiracy theory, now go back to moms basement u mother fucker

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:53 | 4994681 flysofree
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Don't bother with this guy, he likely has spend last two decades in front of a computer posting anti-Jew hate.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:06 | 4994694 Colonel Klink
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Nope, never gave the jewish thing a thought until 2008 when I started seeing who controlled the Federal reserve, major investment banks, entertainment, media, MIC companies, and a good portion of high level government positions.  After much research, I came to the conclusion it's a rigged game through collusion.

Two words for you....Goldman Sachs!  Now read all about them and their influence around the world.

You're welcome to flysofree and fuck off!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:10 | 4994763 Jack Burton
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Same with me Colonel. I spent half my life in support of Israel and always felt sympathy for Jews due to how badly we have all treated them. But, like you, time and knowledge began to swing me slowly away from the total Zionest Symathetic dupe that I was. I won't go into facts and history, anyone can easily prove everything you pointed out. In fact, their control of the American Neocon movement is really their biggest crime to date. The Neocons are mostly Jewsish, and many are Israelis. I don't need to tell about their deeds, again, anyone in little time can see what they have done. So yes, if some Israeli of Jewish American cares to put me straight on how they are not playing us Americans for fools, then please have at it. You have precious little fact to base your defense on. Federal Reserve Heads? Neocons? Bankers and Trading firm heads? AIPAC? US congress and it's unlimited bending to Israeli will? Much more could be said.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:24 | 4994823 Colonel Klink
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That's a big 10-4 buddy!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 19:58 | 4995757 sessinpo
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Colonel Klink    That's a big 10-4 buddy!



It's amazing that such a small population controls so much and YOU. That's a bit 10-4 for you.


So a guy goes into a casino. He had researched it and new the odds and how the game was rigged. Yet he goes in and plays and loses. Then he blames others. Those F ing Jews.

That's you Colonel Klink. You know nothing as the show Hogan's Heroes showed.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 02:51 | 4996940 Colonel Klink
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Hahaha, whatever you say cessinpool.  Odd and poorly thought out rant.  What are you 12 and posting from the promised land?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:11 | 4994766 thismarketisrigged
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everyone agrees about this, we all know jews control wall st and fuck all those jews, that i agree with u 100 percent.


fuck blankfein, fuck yellen, fuck bernanke, fuck greenspan, fuck all bankers jewish or not, they r scum of earth, fuck them all

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:20 | 4994810 Frostfan1
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Nothing antisemitic here......move along move along.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:31 | 4994860 thismarketisrigged
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im talking about bankers, not all jewish ppl.


as a matter of fact, i have many jewish friends and work with jews, i like jews , but if u r a zerohedge reader, there is no way u do not feel the same way as i do in regards to wall st, and the fed. am i right?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:48 | 4994951 Quus Ant
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Ha ha ha.  And the labeler becomes the labelee. 

How does it feel to be an antisemite?  Didn't know you were one, huh?  Well you are shithead.  Welcome to the club.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:19 | 4995105 thismarketisrigged
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how the fuck am i an anti semite


i hate wall st, which many jews work on.


i am not celebrating israels death or any jews death, i just hate bankers.


u on the other hand, along with many others on here sadly feel that jews are too blame for everything, like 9.11, this conflict, every conflict is blame the jews because they r the cause of all problems.


u can tell by the tone of most people on here, that if a hamas suicide bomber walked onto a bus tomorrow and killed hundreds of jews, u guys would all be thriled, yet if a hamas terrorist is killed, those damn jews, committing genocide like always.


its funny how not a word against syria which has slaughtered hundreds of thousands of there own people, heck i do not here ppl saying anything about those bastard russians for shooting a plane out of the sky killing nearly 300 civiilians thursday, nope only the jews.


Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:24 | 4995127 Quus Ant
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all I can hear are the delusional ramblings of a rabid antisemite. 

Watch out for those Jew Bankers.  They control the world. ;)

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:34 | 4995181 thismarketisrigged
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but its a fact that many bankers r jewish,

maybe they do not fully control the world literally, but look at the last crisis where the financial system nearly collapsed and prob should have, who was in charge of the fed leading up to it? alan greenspan- jewish, who will have been to blame for the next crisis? ben bernanke- jewish, and now janet yellen- jewish is head of the fed.


i like many jews, and i hate many jews, the bankers mostly, but i do not hate them due to being jewish, i hate them because of what they do on wall st, and they so happen to be jewish,


the jews in israel who are facing constant rocket threats daily, u hate because they r jewish, not because they have done wrong to u in any way,


maybe if i saw this reaction to all types of deaths not only involving jews id think that maybe zerohedge is very sympathetic towards people who r being killed all over the world, but when its only bash the jews when they kill people, accuse them of genocide even though they try there best to avoid civilian casualties, thats all one needs to know about the jew hating on here and in the world.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:48 | 4995217 Quus Ant
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Get help.  Before it's too late.  Don't pass your hate on to another generation. 

I have consulted my helpful pdf on how to respond to antisemitism:

#85. Contact ADL about monitoring anti-Semitic activities on the Web and in you community; when such activities occur, be vocal in condemning them. 


I condemn your hatred of "Jew Bankers", thismarketisrigged.  I will contact the ADL if you do not immediately cease and desist.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 08:49 | 4997393 Frostfan1
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I'll address you later but basically your comment was antisemitic not that you are antisemetic.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:33 | 4994858 flysofree
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Yeah, you did research? Don't make me laugh. Why is your avatar a picture of a NAZI? Uugh!

Your historical and economic knowledge would likely fit into a mosquito brain.


You believe that central banking is the root of all evil, well they did not have central banking 5,000 years ago, but they still had credit. Wealth accumulation and inequality is the root of all economic evil--it strangles economies by piling up debt because majority of the people have no money.

Did Mr Zionhead appoint all the Jews to high paying jobs? If one is a Jew, where does one apply for a CEO job of an entertainment company or a top job at CBS?



Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:44 | 4994896 Colonel Klink
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I've explained to the board how I chose my avatar.

Yep having spent the majority of my career in the financial markets (20+ years), my historical and economic knowledge are most certainly in doubt.

As for the rest of your post and assumptions, get bent.  I see no point in debating with someone disingenuous and bereft of intelligence.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:07 | 4995793 sessinpo
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Colonel Klink   I've explained to the board how I chose my avatar.

Yep having spent the majority of my career in the financial markets (20+ years), my historical and economic knowledge are most certainly in doubt.

As for the rest of your post and assumptions, get bent.  I see no point in debating with someone disingenuous and bereft of intelligence.


Thousands of down vote for not answering a direct question. So I'll post it again since you have 20+ years of historical and economic knowledge.  BTW, I also have 20+ years of historical and financial knowledge.

You believe that central banking is the root of all evil, well they did not have central banking 5,000 years ago, but they still had credit. Wealth accumulation and inequality is the root of all economic evil--it strangles economies by piling up debt because majority of the people have no money.

Did Mr Zionhead appoint all the Jews to high paying jobs?


I'll ask a different question. If Jews didn't exist. Who would you be blaming now?



Thu, 07/24/2014 - 02:59 | 4996950 Colonel Klink
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Show me proof they had credit 5000 years ago.  They weren't even using paper money that far back.  What did they have seashell derivatives.  You're a fucking dumbass with arguments like that.

You're fucking delusional.

If jews didn't exist, I'd probably be blaming (rightfully so) whomever was fucking me financially.  Too bad we can't live in that perfect world where jews don't exist, it was a nice thought though.  Hahahaha

Nice try Cesspool, rant on.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:58 | 4994705 Quus Ant
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The UN has declared the settlements illegal.  So gather your shit and get the fuck out.

When you are off the land the WORLD has agreed is Palestine we can debate all this antisemitism bullshit. 


BTW please visit a settler encampment and see how welcome you are. 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:19 | 4994804 Frostfan1
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The UN always votes against Israel.  That's like Romney or McCain expecting to get nominated by the NAACP.  Doesn't matter what the argument is or even the topic.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:25 | 4994828 Quus Ant
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The United States concedes the settlements are illegal.

"Let me emphasize at this point the position of the United States of America on the settlements is that we consider them... to be illegitimate,"      John Kerry



Again.  GTFO.  Then we can debate all your nonsense.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:25 | 4994832 Colonel Klink
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And the US always VETOS the actions.  Enough said as to who controls us.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:12 | 4995817 sessinpo
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Colonel Klink   And the US always VETOS the actions.  Enough said as to who controls us.


Yep, and I control you. BTW, you need to move your tin foil hat to the left a bit. The reception isn't clear.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 03:01 | 4996957 Colonel Klink
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Thanks I can see much better now.  You may want to remove your mouth from that infant's cut penis.  We wouldn't want him to get infected.

Go google how many times the US has vetoed actions on behalf of Israel.

I think your yamaka has slid down in front of your eyes and blinded to you to the facts.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:10 | 4995808 sessinpo
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Quus Ant   The UN has declared the settlements illegal.  So gather your shit and get the fuck out.

When you are off the land the WORLD has agreed is Palestine we can debate all this antisemitism bullshit. 

 BTW please visit a settler encampment and see how welcome you are.


BTW, Since Palestine isn't a nation, that would mean all of Palestine is illegal.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:36 | 4995932 Quus Ant
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Take that up with the UN.  The world body does not agree with your specious argument.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:52 | 4994949 Colonel Klink
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Yep Israel and the jews being picked on again without any reason.  Like the other 109 times in history they've been abused and kicked out of nations for nothing.

Please read the whole thing and comments at the bottom of the list so we can prevent future unwarranted abuse.

History doesn't just rhyme, it's like a fucking rap song!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 18:12 | 4995305 Rough-Trader
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DONT waste your time trying to educate these idiots.  They want to worship the opposite of Zion, so soon shall they bow down to a man...who will destroy Israel.

Let them kiss ass.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 17:49 | 4995231 Frostfan1
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The UN Human Rights Council looking into war crimes will only look in one direction.  They're a bunch of Eric Holders.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:28 | 4994554 no more banksters
Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:33 | 4994563 Skip
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Hamas was created out of the Muslim Brotherhood by Israel as a foil for PLO, to make a radical group that would diminish the power of Arafat's organization, however like all plans something went awry.

They MASSACRE Palestinian Christians and Muslims all the time, nothing changes US Taxpayers' pay for it all and .gov supplies the weaponry.
Dead Babies & The Death Of The American Dream
By Kevin Barrett

In 2003 the total cost to US Taxpayer was THREE TRILLION DOLLARS it is much more now.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:33 | 4994583 luckystars
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Jimmy Carter calls for unity gov.

Thats why Bibi started this, unity gov put him in a corner.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:37 | 4994606 Duffy
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Zionism has no better friend right now than the Hamas leadership.  As Israel founded Hamas, it is entirely likely that they still have considerable influence on some, perhaps many of them.  Surely, Hamas knows who owns the western press and major political parties.  Any sympathy they get is over-powered by the transnational Zionist lobbies/networks. 

For goodness sake it has been painfully obvious for many years that the Israelis had zero intention of ever giving up their occupation and settlement building.  It's slow burn ethnic cleansing - and they have so captured the US, Canadian, UK, French, etc. governments - they could probably give an expel order and most of the pro-Israel nuts would claim it was necessary because the {indigenous} Arabs just want to "destroy Israel" - ditto for when Israel invades Lebanon, or Sinai...or Syria...  by claiming "defense" Israel has been able to kill tens of thousands of the native people of the area all while having its 5th column in the US infiltrate its government and media and actually get tax breaks for using their diproportionate wealth to donate to Israeli settlement building. 

Ethnic Cleansing Planned in the Middle East? History, Legality Ignored


for years, I noted that rockets fired from Gaza, landing harmlessly, usually in response to an airstrike on Hamas leadership, got front page NYT coverage.  The Jewish reporter with deep ties to Israel would write a headline or lede-in basically making te rockets the "cause" of violence...

meanwhile, substantial and ongoing evidence of Israeli war crimes gets ZERO coverage - but every asshole can claim, without evidence, that Hamas is using hospitals and children as shields, etc.

If an Arab did it - war crime.  When a Jew does it - he's just fighting terror.



Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:15 | 4994788 Frostfan1
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There's another side to this conversation.  If you're a reporter in Gaza and you were critical of Palestinian leadership or god forbid took a camera somewhere where they don't want pictures, you got beat up, your equipment destroyed and thrown out.   Why else do you never see a picture of a nice house or park or school?  They're there but the wrong picture gets you thrown off of a rooftop or dragged behind a motorcycle.

When Anti-Zionists start calling Hamas Israeli friends, things must be getting pretty bad as far as worldwide percepton goes.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:40 | 4994613 potato
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Haha Drudge reporting Kerry humiliated by metal detector screening before meeting with a diplomat. 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 15:52 | 4994673 Colonel Klink
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It was his bit and bridle that set it off.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:03 | 4994722 Frostfan1
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Am I at the right place?  I think this is the first article I've seen at ZH critical of someone against Israel here.  Granted, it's so obvious or sad that Hamas has horrible leadership and is willing to have more women and children in Gaza unless their terms are met that even ZH has joined in the criticizing.

Unless someone new was ZH was hired to write headlines, there must be a serious change in world opinion about how reckless and dangerous Hamas has become.

Perhaps Hamas shouldn't be boasting about closing airports, launching missiles at civilians, shooting from mosques and schools, or using ambulances to transport armed members around.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 16:26 | 4994841 Colonel Klink
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Or Israelis dancing in the street during 9/11?

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