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Goldman Goes Schizo On Gold: Boosts Price Target To $1200 Even As It Is "Selling It With Conviction"

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Back in the beginning of 2014, Goldman loudly predicted that 2014 would be the year of normalization: the economy would grow by 3%, the S&P 500 would barely rise to 1900, and gold would tumble to $1066. By now it goes without saying that it has been dead wrong about the first with the economy set for a contraction in the first half of 2014 and the full year assured to have the worst GDP growth since Lehman, wrong about the second with the market now so clearly disconnected from any economic fundamentals nobody even pretends that it is anything but the Fed manipulating a rigged stock market, and has been painfully wrong about the third.

So with less than 6 months to go until the end of the year, with various gold ETFs suddenly seeing the biggest buying in years, and with gold continuing to outperform most asset classes YTD, what is Goldman to do? Why follow the trend of course, and just like David Kostin had no choice but to boost his S&P 500 price target using the idiotic Fed model as a basis, so earlier today Goldman just upgraded its gold price target from $1,066 to $1,200. Probably this means that after accumulating it for the first half of the year, Goldman is finally preparing to sell the precious metal. Not so fast: because while Goldman did just raised its price target, it continues to have a Conviction Sell rating on Gold, which is its second most hated commodity after iron ore. Go figure.

So without further ado, here is Goldman going full schizo.

Conviction views: Bearish on iron ore, gold and copper, bullish on nickel, zinc, aluminium and palladiumIn gold, we raise our LT price forecasts to $1,200/oz in $2014 terms from $1,066 earlier. Over long time horizons, the gold price has been relatively stable in real terms, keeping pace with inflation. Accordingly we use a flat real gold price forecast assuming gold is an effective inflation hedge and increase in nominal  gold prices should offset the impact from inflation. We believe iron ore (-21%), gold (-20%) and copper (-12%) are the mining commodities with the greatest downside on a 12-month view.

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We have updated our long-term real gold price forecast to $1,200/oz in $2014 terms (was $1,066/oz) to make it more in-line with our marginal cost support level, see Exhibit 66. Currently gold is trading at a 9% premium to our LT real (inflation-adjusted) forecast but we believe on a long-term basis the price should revert back to the cost support level in-line with our estimates.

 

 

Marginal cost support at $1,200/oz level

 

In our view, the 90th percentile of all-in sustaining costs (defined as total by-product cash cost plus royalty expense, plus sustaining capex, exploration and corporate expenses) provides a good estimate of the floor price for gold, as it is the breakeven level for the marginal producer. At times of extreme declines in demand, it is possible for prices to fall below the marginal cost support level; however we believe such events are generally shortlived. Exhibit 67 shows our latest 2014 gold’s all-in sustaining cost curve.

 

 

Gold price relatively stable over the long term

 

Over long time horizons, the real gold price has been relatively stable, keeping pace with inflation. Exhibit 68 illustrates that the real price of gold was fairly constant until the early 1970s, after which it became highly volatile. Although the real price has experienced significant volatility post the 1970s, we highlight its tendency to a mean reversion trend. The real gold price fell back to the 1950s level in 2001 after peaking in 1980, and it is currently in decline again after peaking in 2011.

 

Where things get downright bizarre is the last paragraph where either Goldman had a humongous typo or merely pulled the boilerplate language from a prior report where for some inexplicable reason Goldman says it has a "$1050" price target even as the table above clearly says $1,200. Oh who cares: this whole report is merely for the benefit of Goldman's prop desk, which is clearly ramping up trading, to do the opposite of whatever Goldman's few remaining clients are doing.

We continue to remain bearish on gold in 2014

 

We expect gold prices to drop to $1,050/oz by the end of 2014, maintaining our previous forecast. Acceleration in the US economic recovery story remains the key driver behind our lower gold price forecast. While weak economic data due to cold weather and the onset of the Crimea crisis led to a sharp rally in gold prices between January and mid-March, sequentially better US activity and easing tensions pushed gold prices lower by early April. Since then, US economic releases have continued to point to acceleration in growth while tensions in Ukraine have escalated, keeping gold prices range bound near $1,300/toz.

Sure, why not.

That said, can Goldman please also advise if its suddenly very active prop group is buying or selling gold. We promise to do whatever they are doing.

 

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Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:47 | 4995980 James Dandy
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Aren't Jews something?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:54 | 4996010 Deathrips
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A heart felt FUCK YOU GOLDMAN!!!

 

RIPS

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:08 | 4996062 cifo
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Are there still muppets listening to them?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:11 | 4996077 kliguy38
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muppets will never fail to deliver. They are very loyal

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 22:04 | 4996302 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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James Dandy wrote "Aren't Jews something?"

They sure are & they deserve a free pass to the Auschwitz Dance Club

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/dancing-auschwitz-holocaust-su...

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 22:56 | 4996497 knukles
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What the fuck did Goldman just write?  I found it nigh incomprehensible.
As the chosen would say, "Yadda Yadda Yadda"
Or New Yorkers, the most unhappy people in the world

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 02:15 | 4996889 Pinto Currency
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It's not the production cost of gold that drives the price, it is the availability of gold vs the demand.

Gold is less than 1% of available financial assets while there are $200+ trillion of global debt denominated in mere paper money.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/05/11/number-of-the-week-total-world-debt-load-at-313-of-gdp/

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 06:15 | 4997104 0z
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"2014 would be the year of normalization: the economy would grow by 3%"

Anything over 1% growth per century is NOT normal.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 07:33 | 4997205 BigJim
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 What the fuck did Goldman just write?  I found it nigh incomprehensible.

More to the point: what the fuck did Tyler just write?

so earlier today Goldman just upgraded its gold price target from $1,066 to $1,200. Probably this means that after accumulating it for the first half of the year, Goldman is finally preparing to sell the precious metal. Not so fast: because while Goldman did just raised its price target, it continues to have a Conviction Sell rating on Gold, which is its second most hated commodity after iron ore. Go figure.

Apart from the fact that Goldamn routinely lie through their teeth - if gold is trading around 1300 now and they think it'll go to 1200, why the fuck wouldn't they recommend selling?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 02:53 | 4996942 sessinpo
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James Dandy   Aren't Jews something?

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And they control you. Aren't you dandy?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 06:40 | 4997121 CharlesBronson
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ADMINS - THIS IS A RACIST COMMENT TOSS THIS IDIOT OFF THE BOARDS PER YOUR OWN REGS

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 06:40 | 4997124 CharlesBronson
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ADMINS - THIS IS A RACIST COMMENT TOSS THIS IDIOT OFF THE BOARDS PER YOUR OWN REGS

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 06:40 | 4997125 CharlesBronson
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ADMINS - THIS IS A RACIST COMMENT TOSS THIS IDIOT OFF THE BOARDS PER YOUR OWN REGS

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:50 | 4995993 highly debtful
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To each his own: Goldman can continue to invest in all sorts of exciting derivatives, while I'll stick to buying deep lakes in the heart of Switzerland and recreational boats of very poor quality. 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:10 | 4996075 cifo
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Be careful with some lakes in switzerland, they may not allow your boat on them.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:56 | 4995999 TeamDepends
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Friend, do you want to own paper gold? Sacs 'o Gold can help...

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:59 | 4996012 Dr. Engali
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Gold will never see $1,300 again.

~ Morgan Stanley.

Acceleration of the economic recovery is key? How long before you gut your forecasts.......... again? When you do I fully expect you to raise your gold price target...... Not!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:12 | 4996087 Elvis the Pelvis
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There's no hope for gold.  Deflation is here to stay.  Learn it, live it, love it.  Bitchez.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:18 | 4996106 Pheonyte
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That's what they said when I bought it at $850. Then I blinked and it was up 100%.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 23:22 | 4996586 techstrategy
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Deflation with respect to what?  In a closed system, something must inflate as something else deflates...  Real assets will inflate.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 02:59 | 4996953 sessinpo
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techstrategy   Deflation with respect to what?  In a closed system, something must inflate as something else deflates...  Real assets will inflate.

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So explain the Great Depression. That was even a more closed system then today. And in that time period, assets declined as people had to sell them to service debt.

Yea, we see massive printing. But what we are really seeing is massive debt creation - big difference.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 04:01 | 4997019 heavy.metal
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So you're basically saying Yellen is gonna work her ass producing something of actual value to the real economy so that the Fed can purchase back all the debt they have created? This would give some real value to those FRNs indeed.

If not Yellen, then I guess somebody else will do it. Will you? Well I hope so, because I sure as hell didn't sign up for it.

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 07:41 | 4997237 BigJim
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 techstrategy   Deflation with respect to what?  In a closed system, something must inflate as something else deflates...  Real assets will inflate.

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So explain the Great Depression. That was even a more closed system then today. And in that time period, assets declined as people had to sell them to service debt.

Yea, we see massive printing. But what we are really seeing is massive debt creation - big difference.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Not all assets. What happened to the value of gold - and gold equities in particular - during the Great Depression?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 06:01 | 4997097 tradewithdave
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Since when is the zero lower bound a closed system? Cue Ross Ashby and the coastal paradox.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:53 | 4999310 MeelionDollerBogus
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Stay? Deflation hasn't been near happening since what, the 1930's?
If you think you're seeing deflation now or coming, I see you drinking a 2 litre bottle of LSD soda.

Also, your blog sucks.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 22:19 | 4996353 DirkDiggler11
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Great link Fonz, thanks for posting, I had not heard of this fund yet,. Nice of someone to give Sprott a run for his money.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 09:16 | 4997481 zeroheckler
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A whopping 54 ounces were delivered!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 20:59 | 4996027 logicalman
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Sachs of Shit.

 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:10 | 4996064 AL_SWEARENGEN
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Just picked up some 1/10 oz eagles today.  Cocksuckers are tiny but they're shiny!

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:45 | 4996216 Quus Ant
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If I owned any gold, which I don't, I would prefer pesos.  They're cut with copper so they'll stand up jingling around in your pocket.  And Coyotes recognize them.  In case you need to get across the border.  Ya know.  When they stop letting people in (out).

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 06:27 | 4997112 Latitude25
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Exactly.  Not popular in the US but Latin America thinks they're A+.  My LCS doesn't value them much and sells the 50 peso for $25 over spot.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:10 | 4996079 Seasmoke
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I hope Lloyd fucking chokes on Gold. 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:14 | 4996091 Pheonyte
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May he be fed molten gold in hell,

Until his belly and throat burn into ashes.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:50 | 4996239 logicalman
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I wouldn't be that nice to him.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:39 | 4996192 Government need...
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Have the rapacious wolves @ Goldman Sachs discovered a new scam for ripping muppets eyes out?  I wonder what the derivative play is.  I'd be long physical, and look to get short the fiat-backed derivatives . . . with some amount of time lag.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:46 | 4996227 alexcojones
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Why do so many Jewish guys named Goldman and silverman, denigrate Gold and silver?

Seems kinda anti-Semitic toward shiny metals.

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 03:09 | 4996970 sessinpo
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alexcojones    Why do so many Jewish guys named Goldman and silverman, denigrate Gold and silver?

Seems kinda anti-Semitic toward shiny metals.

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Quite frankly, I don't endorse the worship of money in any form. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 06:41 | 4997126 CharlesBronson
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ADMINS - THIS IS A RACIST COMMENT TOSS THIS IDIOT OFF THE BOARDS PER YOUR OWN REGS

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:50 | 4999291 MeelionDollerBogus
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Yer the rayciss! Calling for gold and silver genocide

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:54 | 4996232 billsbest
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We're sticking with Nixon and his $42.22. $35 was just not realistic. Silver at $1.29 is a sell. Understand these are projections are just pulled from the air, and no diametrics on the numbers yet. Bobby Copperman (anti-gentilic)

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:51 | 4996240 blindman
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perhaps a flaw but i tend to ignore anything
associated with that particular crime syndicate
even though they pay many of their employees
very well, every statement stalls at the
trust threshold.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:52 | 4996252 logicalman
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When the dollar is worthless, what will the price of gold be?

 

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:58 | 4996271 billsbest
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20 Morgan dollars.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 03:14 | 4996976 sessinpo
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logicalman    When the dollar is worthless, what will the price of gold be?

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Well, historically, I imagine the world will do the same thing it has done in the past. It will create a new currency reserve and reset the system. Those that were in debt will be wiped out. Gold will simply fluctuate based upon the new currency.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:48 | 4999281 MeelionDollerBogus
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250 to 350 loaves of bread per ounce (troy).

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 21:57 | 4996272 techstrategy
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Someone sold lots of August and September GLD puts today... Nice timing GS!  They can accumulate on the takedown without everyone realizing what v they are doing...

 

People, you can end the games forever simply by selling all float scams (NFLX, AMZN, etc) and their promises if earnings/returning cash to shareholders next decade into cash and gold today.  Sell the underlying in float scams to buy FRN and gold (or GLD because new basket creation creates indirect physical demand).

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 22:01 | 4996286 alexcojones
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Logic, "When the dollar is worthless," gold will be priced in silver, brass, lead, gasoline, spam, and pussy.

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 22:30 | 4996386 Saltaire
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It appears gold is being run down. As equites are overheating there is fear assets will move to gold so expect a very intense campaign to push gold down durring the transition period.Once rates are raised the pressure will be off as money from equities will be herded into treasuries. What happens after the market tanks and rates are raised?

Wed, 07/23/2014 - 22:45 | 4996458 Oscar
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Just posted a free technical analysis on gold.

www.goldsqueeze.com

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:43 | 4999230 MeelionDollerBogus
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Got a much better one: http://imgur.com/v7kuaQN and

http://imgur.com/vf4HAK3

Getting TECHNICAL, actually technical requires math.

Use log(x) on the date, on the price, repeat the pattern from 2006 to 2011 OVERLAPPING 2011 ahead to 2024 (because the time-scale expands back in linear-scale).

?Mapping back to each axis, the gold price is the gold_base to the power (graphed_log_price) and similiarly the date is mapped back as the date_base to the power of the computed log date (x-axis).

That's real technical analysis.

The nonsense on that site you posted has nothing of the sort.

Crazy prices from the gold vs silver ratio?

The gold / silver ratio is meaningless. Utter garbage.

 

The actual proper graphing is silver vs gold squared. Or as I prefer Gold/silver1/2 because it pops out an easy number: 285.

That's the trend, showing an actual 1 year trend of a curve and it is definitely a curve over 95% accurate.

Take any silver price, find square root, multiply by 285 and there's your gold price (US dollars). That is real technical analysis.

150 day moving average acting as support? There's no such thing as support. The very notion of support & resistance, without equations to prove when/where/why, is utter nonsense.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 00:28 | 4996755 lasvegaspersona
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As long as paper gold works as well as physical the market will remain 'confusing'.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 00:28 | 4996756 lasvegaspersona
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As long as paper gold works as well as physical the market will remain 'confusing'.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 01:42 | 4996863 onmail
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The Beast (Israeli Banker ) on which the prosti;tute(USA) rides.

(USA is the source of most porn)

666 == (Israel, Mammon, Banker)

The Israeli bankers aka Mammon will start the World war in mid-east , a nuclear one.

Then the prosti;tute and the mammon both shall perish.

CIA, NSA, FBI , US govt all work for the bankers aka Mammon which rules/ruins the whole world.

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 04:52 | 4997052 JoJoJo
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Look at the 2500 year symbol for Europa - its a woman riding on a beast (bull)

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 06:41 | 4997127 CharlesBronson
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ADMINS - THIS IS A RACIST COMMENT TOSS THIS IDIOT OFF THE BOARDS PER YOUR OWN REGS

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:33 | 4999199 MeelionDollerBogus
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holeegawsh

izz tha rayciss

we cants tolerate tha raycisses

Israel is not a race.

It is a prison-camp for indigenous people in the true nation of Palestine, occupied by terrorist forces under the name 'Israel'

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:17 | 5000508 Urban Redneck
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1) How did you ever get by the captcha?

2) Do you understand what the distinctions between races, religions, and nationalities of people are?

3) Do you know what a regulation is?

Perhaps before running around like a child throwing a temper tantrum you could have noticed and read the clearly identified link on right which reads: How to report offensive comments

Do you realize you have managed to increase 4 years of ZH (lack of contribution) by over 6% in under 2 minutes with these childish copy and paste jobs? Statistically speaking- with six posts out of less than 60 comments this morning you should have have at least been able to identify one of the comments that actually is the most offensive to a religion that you seem to be conflating with an ideology or race. You're lucky ZH is the Tylers' imperial fiefdom because the tribe, and even the Tribe, would likely vote you off the island and out of Fight Club if it were a democracy...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 01:53 | 4996875 walküre
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$1200 until 2017? These yids are meshugge. I guess miners will simply keep finding and producing gold at this price ad infinitum and regardless of their production costs.

All this report is supposed to do is keep the muppets out of gold.

By 2017 there will be 50% of global trade in whatever currency the BRICS chose to use. That currency will have a relationship to gold as it will be based on sound monetary policy. All BRICS members in this trade recognize the importance of sound money and trust or faith is not possible unless gold and other metals are part of the backing.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 01:56 | 4996876 GoldIsMoney
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I do not give a damn on Goldman. The only thing I know: The day they are going down will be (maybe the) or at least a hell of a day. Too big to fail? Well you will get surprised.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 02:26 | 4996909 Fuku Ben
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Are Hamas & Goldman Sachs sharing the same publicist?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 03:07 | 4996965 Flying Tiger Comics
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It's been the worst month for real gold trading in 20 years. So quite what the fuck Goldman Sachs is lying about at the moment is anyone's guess.

If only there were laws about criminal misrepresentation...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 03:30 | 4996995 rayban
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Looks like ABX needs a boost...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 04:46 | 4997049 vyeung
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Where is the $850 conviction sell.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 07:32 | 4997198 zeroheckler
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With all the geopolitical problem zones, Au is having trouble to remain above 1300. Once everything is fine and dandy again (at least on the surface), we might see levels below 1200 or even 1100 - whether we like it (to accumulate) or not.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:29 | 4999176 MeelionDollerBogus
Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:27 | 4999166 MeelionDollerBogus
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Alright bitchez!

No one seems able to do the math so here ya goes.

Funny thing happens when you rescale using a logarithm. For date and price .... then find the repeating pattern.

http://imgur.com/vf4HAK3,v7kuaQN

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:52 | 4999689 zeroheckler
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past performance is not ...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:58 | 5001161 MeelionDollerBogus
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Wrong again.
past performance definitely predicts future activity as per "this time is always different" and no it isn't.
That's how I predicted 2  years of gold prices within 2% every day, every single day, using a 277-week rate-of-change repeating pattern.
This is more of the same, and it will work again, just rescaled the date axis to find it.
I've done this  before.
It's easy to say "it doesn't work" if you're not smart enough.
I'm smart enough and it's worked for me repeatedly.

The key is lining up enough matching data-points, like years' worth. 2006 to 2011 will cover it nicely.
There are no accidents or coincidences in a rigged market.
That's the purpose of the analysis: it works because it's rigged.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:52 | 5003995 zeroheckler
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let's touch base in four years

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 04:10 | 5011786 MeelionDollerBogus
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Of course. That's why I put all my charts online & let people peruse them while they're working and once they stop. They do stop, of course, once the pattern is too old.

flickr photostream (here),

and youtube

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