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Why "The US Should Have Already Panicked," The Sectarian Divide Mapped Out
Meghan O’Sullivan, Harvard's Director of Geopolitics (and former deputy national security adviser for Iran and Afghanistan) warns, "The US should have already panicked." As she notes, major American economic and political interests are at stake. The erasure of the Syria-Iraq border by a group that is considered too radical for al-Qaeda, the takeover of Iraq’s second largest city by IS, the kidnapping of international diplomats, and the declaration of an Islamic caliphate in large parts of Iraq and Syria – each one of these should be a major signal about the gravity of the situation. The Sectarian Divide remains key...
O'Sullivan's conclusion...
First, the US needs to view Iraq and Syria as completely interwoven – perhaps two countries, but one theater in reality. It needs to view IS for what it is, a threat to US and regional interests, not just as a threat to the Iraqi government. This would suggest more military involvement to push back against IS. Both in Iraq and Syria, the crisis is ultimately a political one, not a military one, so changing the politics is also key. But the US should not think that it can sequence military help only to follow political reform – the two must come together given the urgency of the situation.
While the United States continues to deliberate about its next moves, others – Syria, Iran, Russia – have been filling the vacuum in ways that are not aligned with US interests. Along with political pressure, more US military assistance to Baghdad and even to the Kurds will give the US political leverage when it comes time to help the Iraqis renegotiate their political compact. The moment in which the US can make a difference and truly affect the outcome is narrowing dramatically every day.
Source: Goldman Sachs
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#NWO
A real "empire" doesn't send out its women as representatives to supposedly subordinate states for a decade.
You send out your most powerful MEN to dictate and negotiate deals and terms of conduct. Anything other is sheer arrogance-as well as a prescription for the current mess.
America is WAYYY to late and a dollar short-with little alternative other than behaving like a common street thug in the face of what's about to come down on her head.
are you suggesting that hillary doesn't have the balls for the job?
that's sexist!
Why panic when you create ISIS / ISIL?
This is all going to plan.
Dead last in the nation:
In June, Illinois suffered the largest monthly workforce loss in recorded state history.
June’s workforce loss was worse than the worst month of the Great Recession. Overall, 21,700 Illinoisans gave up and left the workforce in June; in September 2008, 17,500 Illinoisans quit the workforce. (Bureau of Labor Statistics data go back to 1976.)
This hefty workforce loss has driven state’s unemployment rate down to 7.1 percent from 7.5 percent, creating a superficial appearance of improvement. And Gov. Pat Quinn says Illinois needs to “keep the momentum.”
Keeping up this sort of “momentum” would be disastrous.
Disastrous indeed.
Labels: state politics
damn, i opened this thread w/o really paying attention to the small pic, hoping it was a map of the soon to be sectarian US
I thought it was about communistFornia
looked like florida on my screen
without the Separatist Panhandle
The time for the US to panic was 2008 when Obama was elected and the Democrats had full control of Congress ... but the damage is done now ... and it's too late for panic. It's merely a matter of survival now.
and....how will the US MSM respond when the ISIS take a plane down with a (US MADE) Stinger Missle.
Putin will hold Obama directly responsible!!!
Hey, “At this point, what difference does it make?”.
At least they are making choom legal all over the place.
i'm also extremely against legalization. its the only unregulated and untaxed transaction i make any more. and the best patriots ive met were the guys risking their freedom to grow a flower....
long hummus
Stop looking across the pond. Things are blowing up in our own backyard.
Are we in the early stages of the next American Revolution?
The Final American Revolution - Adam Kokesh Debates Stefan Molyneuxhttp://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/12/the-final-american-revolution-adam...
This Shiite/Sunii divide is Western propaganda to cover their banker driven wars. 100 years of Catholic/Protestant battles in Ireland ended when the British were driven out. We supply the radical criminal elements in the Middle East with arms and funding and then say they don't get along over there. A large study conducted recently showed that the Shiite/Suuni power struggle was a myth - it was a struggle for control of the oil.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-occupation-of-iraq-is-the-cause-of-secta...
Maybe a Sunni caliphate isn't such a bad thing. It would certainly keep Iran on its toes. Bitchez.
Hey pelvis , just tell me what are the MiddleEast Christians SO Guilty of so that they're being massacred & annahiliated all under the watchful eyes of YouEss policy , who sometimes even Instruct their Jeehadist proxies To deliberately exterminate them from towns & villages they occupied for several Millenia ?
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Shouldn't the youEss criminals at least have the decency to designate / create a region or a Zone in that area for them to seek safety and shelter ?
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And where are all the Christian Organizations in Merika who're all over the place defending Yeesreels right to defend itself from Gaza rokkets , but they hahen't raised an eyebraw for the persecution of MidEast Christians ??? How dare call themselves " Christians " .
This time it's different, someone else are doing most of the warring.
They just want more fiat.
Save your breath, SyriaL. "Elvis" doesn't give a damn about these discussions, he/she/it is just pimping a blog.
With luck the Tylers will nuke this idiot, and any other account that keeps posting this same damn link over, and over and over...
What exactly are these US interests again?
I am not sure I have EVER had that satisfactorily explained to me...
How is allowing(or not) the IS, the freedom to set up their Caliphate, of the slightest interest or concern to the United States...???
Surely the US has far more pressing interests, far closer to home.
The US ruling class quit playing to win a while ago and is now busy burning down the casino, poisoning wells and such.
hindsight escapes you.
ironic
Yeah, George Bush, Cheney were doing a heck of a job. Lost $2 trillion in wars, lost two wars,led the country into a depression.
What are you thinking?
He's blue/red colorblind.
Yeah its easy to give up or give in, wuss
Report to your pre-assigned FEMA camp, now! dumb ass
We've always considered everything west of Tallahassee, Alabama anyways ;-)
Most of the land west of Tallahassee is LA (Lower Alabama) ... but part of it is Jawjuh.
Me too man. One too many cold CL's. ( did recognize before I tapped but back to work in about 3 weeks). Thanks for the paradigm shift over the last 48 mos. ZH, and research. Please stay logical and independent and smart.
Yep. From a distance, the western Turkey piece sort-of looked like Alaska, and northeastern Pakistan sort-of looked like Maine.
That's good right? Unemployment down. Go Quinn, " keep the momentum "
This just sounds like more drivel to justify sending thousands of troops and spending trillions moar dollars. I'll pass. Let those people kill each other
anything from goldman sachs should be suspect...i'm sure they have plans to skim some of that "help" they are proposing...
SO right!
You can pass all you want. When the trillion dollars are available, it will BE spent. Forwaaaard...MARCH!!
By 'available' presumably you mean newly printed?
The CIA is not that competent or capable. "Too extreme for Al Qaeda" is code for "holy shit these guys are completely out of our control".
I think they are referring to Kerry
sexisss
Not at all. She eats balls for breakfast, lunch, dinner. She has plenty of balls.
It is the American sheeple Muppets that lack balls.
"A real "empire" doesn't send out its women as representatives to supposedly subordinate states for a decade."
I've always thought that it made no sense to send women to countries where they are absolutely disrespected. What M.E. leader would want to appear weak among his tribe by acquiescing to the demands of an American woman?
"A real "empire" doesn't send out its women as representatives to supposedly subordinate states for a decade."
I've always thought that it made no sense to send women to countries where they are absolutely disrespected. What M.E. leader would want to appear weak among his tribe by acquiescing to the demands of an American woman?
I think sending a woman to represent the U.S. to all the backward, Muslim, misogynistic countries of the world is the best way to undermine their religion and culture. It also has the added benefit of rubbing their noses in it. Hillary and Albright were awful but no more than bolton or any of the rest of the nwo scum. At least their being in the position represented at least one western value.
You don't know much about diplomacy, do you?
Nah, just the Sunnis doing a bit of sectarian cleansing...
Latest statement on Iraq from Obozo;
Anyone seen my five iron ?
"I'm caught in dis here sand trap!"
Brilliant. You should win some sort of ward for that comment.
Apparently Nobel Prizes are easy to get nowadays, maybe one of them then.
all you need to get one in "economics" is be a fucking idiot who knows a little calculus and use it to model something you dont know shit about
Oh shiite I need some help!
I am a ole southern boy, and having a good time watching this. Read the end of the book First
I'm not paniked, I prepped for this shit.
It's not a surprise.
Goldman wants moar war.
Panic? My EBT works just fine.
My cash still works as well... Why panic.
/sarc/
I dont no nuthin bout no inflation ... but me used to cud buy a full cart load with me Food Stamp Card ... now I cans carry it out with me own two hands.
my local Walmart could use a few more parking spots for the "handicapped" and more fat fuck scooters, there was a line for both the other day... other than that everything is fine... USA,USA,USA!!
Yep, (not you TD, the welfare recipients) and your Medicaid card is still good for the free healthcare, you still get the daycare for the rugrats and your still getting your section 8 housing and your energy assistance benefits and I am guessing that Obamy phone is still working....oh how could I forget, your still getting the AFDC or whatever the fuck they call it now....used to be aid for "families" with dependant children....family is the key word.....really a mom with tons of kids and tons of worthless fathers....ok
.....Oh and fuck you Israel !
Yeah, their plan is right on track....until it jumps the track. Tick Tock, motherfuckers.
Occurred to me Monday why it is so hard to meet normal women in S.F. (whereas they are abundant in outlying areas like Santa Rosa).
It's because single women can't afford to live in S.F. just on income from an ordinary, good job.
So most of the single women you meet in S.F. are on the dole - free housing, free food, free medical care, free everything. They get all of this because they're either disable or crazy (or they're faking it). Most are just crazy - and I DON'T mean eccentric. I mean fucking crazy.
Men, be warned. It took a lot of bad dating experiences for me to figure this out. And now I'm fixing to move.
"Fixing to move"?
You must be a Southern boy, what the hell'd ya go to Kalifornia for anyway, especially San Fran? Well, 'least them women learned ya now di'nt they boy? Only part of CA worth living in is Sacramento northward.
You are overthinking it. Just the fact that they choose to live in SF means they're fucking nuts.
It's impossible to panic when you've essentially checked out of your job as POTUS.
We've offshored it to Kenya.
...and the golf course between stops at Martha's Vinyard and Palm Springs right after the Hawaiian trip.
I want Jen Psaki to give me a briefing.
I'd say the same thing ... but I wear boxers
ginger wilding should've stayed on her side of the wall
That carrot only eats muff
The number of fags in the federal government is staggering.
O'Sullivan's conclusion...
"First, the US needs to view Iraq and Syria as completely interwoven – perhaps two countries, but one theater in reality. It needs to view IS for what it is, a threat to US and regional interests, not just as a threat to the Iraqi government. This would suggest more military involvement to push back against IS. ..."
What we need is war? Yeah, thanks, O'Sullivan, but haven't we been down that road before?
What we should have done is kept our idiot poiticians in check decades ago.
+535
they need to be in chains at this point.
Chains cost too much. You got a problem with me slitting their throats? Cheap, effective, well deserved.
"It needs to view IS for what it is, a threat to US and regional interests, not just as a threat to the Iraqi government."
Is that guy retarded? ISIS is organized, financed and controlled by the Washington-Wahhabi axis and its job is to remove the current Iraqi government which has broken ranks with the US and aligned itself with Iran. Why the fuck would Obama bomb his own people? Why the fuck does this moron think that US regional interests and the interests of an Iran aligned Iraq government coincide? Even though I've been browsing the MSM all day, this piece may actually be the stupidest shit I've read today.
Correction: I just noticed this was written by a chick so ignore the "guy" part in "Is that guy retarded".
none of us can lift the tail and check through the interwebs
forgiven!
Thats some tough competition there Coke.
I just wish I had a dollar for every outright lie I've heard on MSM since last Thursday.
Probably have enough for a kilo bar of gold, and some change.
Except for thinking that someone named Meghan is a guy, you're the smartest guy in the room, ATM.
I'm kind of confused today. One thing I haven't been able to figure out: The government says Putin is responsible for the MH 17 shootdown because the BUK system came from Russia. Who is then responsible for all the Iraqi shia soldiers being shot in the back of the head by ISIS? Is it Obama because the AKs they used were supplied by the US from Libya or is it Putin because they originally came to Libya from Russia? Can someone shed a light on this?
Man, all of your questions are really harshin' out my buzz.
Confusion is the order of the day. We Americans are troubled by our compliciity, but we'd rather watch Chef Ramsey. K? We don't really wanna know what has been done in our name because we don't wanna accept responsibility for same. We'd rather believe that we are exceptional and indisespencible than own up to the fact that we've fucked up on a grand scale.
America burns, while Obama golfs. Sound familiar?
Oh, and by the way, the best way to fuck up a good idea is to allow a central bank. Fuck you very much, Woodrow- may you rot in hell fire.
Let me say this about complicity.
We can all take steps to decrease and minimize complicity.
If enough people did we would have our country back.
Conscious,
Lemme say this about this crowd, they will bitch and moan about inequity in the markets without ever realizing that they are the fuel for that market. There, I said it.
That said, they (we?) are still the most honest people on this planet. Unllike strictly political blogs, these assholes (me included) actually say what they mean and don't much engage in doubleplusgoodspeak, and that's why I'm here.
1st: carve up an area with complete indiscretion and disregard to the people, its culture, and its history all for oil
2nd: wait 100 yrs until your empire collapses under its own corruption and weight
3rd: Panic
4th: Nuke 'em!
5th: Print money for rebuild.
6th: Repeat
You forgot step 5 and 1/2, hope to hell (because your country's going there) the world still accepts your currency
But they can print moar! ;-)
even the best-looking horse at the glue factory is still destined to be reduced
ISIS can even send a gang from Central America through Mexico into the US to give little miss harvard a personal visit next week if they choose to. But can they get to the City of London is the question.
Chunnel
It all depends on what your definition of IS is...
Insight from the Bush Era asst to Paul Bremer? Sell.
I wonder what Bush the war criminal is painting now?
a chimp with its ears and eyes covered by Cheney's and Rice's hands and the mouth covered a scaly claw..
you know, a self portrait.
by Condi Rice's hand? Are you sure it's not her legs?
hahahaha like Obamufukup is gonna do something....hahahaahahahaha
Hopefully not.
US foreign policy has been a fuckup since WW2, no reason to expect a different outcome .
Obamafuckup? Whaaa?
Obama has lots of knowledge and expertise. For example, he knows you cannot light a wet joint.
And that my friend is some bitching skills. I hear he is pretty OK at playing "Hoop" as well.
Let me be clear. If you like your froot loop fudge packing brick tosser, you can keep your froot loop fudge packing brick tosser.
Meh. "Identity politics." Lowest of the low...Nixonian bullshit by some philandering phucking whore.
Geopolitics? Bwhahahahahahahaha. Just follow the flaring news in North Dakota. "They only identify with money and debt (payable)." Everything else is nothing but some pseudo Zionista doing a shakedown tour.
so whatever did happen with that ISIS thing??....man that dropped off the radar.
Dropped Faster than a Malaysian Air jet.
too soon?
nope.
YouTube cut'em off
In the last 2 days I think they have consolidated control of Mosul and expelled all the Christians. (convert, leave or die). There are reports that Mossad trained the chief ISIS honcho, named al-Baghdadi. He used to be a doctor, or maybe it was a car dealer. Anyway. So the heartless bolshie genocidal stuff to terrorize civilians rolls on....Kulacks, Arabs, Palestinians...all the same. It's like a franchise or something.
Why doesn't Goldman shut up and put some of its extensive and expensive political capital to work if its such an important issue?
Maybe a private army? A private bankster army. I'm kinda likin' this. Bankster ninja's.
It's not like the other end of the servant's bell pull in the boardroom at 200 West doesn't ring at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Can't they just split Iraq down the middle, everything east of the line is Shiastan, and everything west is Sunnistan?
There, problem solved!
No way dude. You have put their holiest site in the middle and partition it so they both have equal access to it, that shit always works out great.
Call the middle portion "Shitstain."
+1 for the "Shitstain" reference!
I notice that Israel does not have a % breakdown...... hmmmm
Yeahhhhh.....Though the palestenians are mostly Sunni, there is a 10% christian minority at least among them.The ones the settlers hate.
How about Egypt and Sudan? Why not included either?
The settlers hate the Sunni's or Christians (wasn't clear what you meant)?
Uhm, both? Equal opportunity haters.
They consider them 'filthy' .
Nutty Yahoo will be presenting the Israeli Emancipation Proclamation any day now
Take out the numbers, and it looks like a Klee with a very limited pallette.
+1 for the Paul Klee reference.
Paint by numbers Klee!
I disagree entirely; stay the fuck out! Damn the consequences!
Nonsense, all the people in the Middleeast want is the same thing the Vietnamese people wanted when we sent Rambo in to defeat the godless commies: McDonald's. It's our duty to spread freedum-n-McDonald's.
McDonnalds is getting kicked out of China over fake meat. Put that in a pig filled river and smoke it.
Sectarian divide is what the .gov is creating here in ussa.
Without the sectarian divide, the debt slaves will awaken in USA.
First step to the US regaining any influence and respect in the middle east must be to cut off all aid to Israel. ALL OF IT.
Without that, you can expect nothing but an eternal war.
I wonder what is the product of Gaza besides babies? What do they live on? Maybe we should cut off all aid ... period.
I donno, but just for the record, the Israelis think of "those people" the same way American think of "those people". So what you say makes allot of sense.
Good point, sad, but good.
alien-IQ First step to the US regaining any influence and respect in the middle east must be to cut off all aid to Israel. ALL OF IT.
Without that, you can expect nothing but an eternal war.
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Then please explain the enternal war that existed before Israel?
Elaborate, Look up the Ottoman Empire or Talk amongst Yourselves.
The enternal war did not involve the US!
Funny isn't it? In Syria the terrorist are referred to as "Freedom Fighters" but five Mins away in Iraq the ISIS are terrorists.
Even funnier is the Criminal CIA, State Dept., & UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. are arming, funding & training the exact same terror organizations they claim to protect us from via the whole region.
Evil on eleven.
The only REAL threat to the US is from within.
Specifically in NY and in DC, where the 5th Column that has hijacked our Government, and halls of power and influence.
Not Chicago?
That is their fallback town.
Actually, there are more communists in that area than NY or CA.
They allowed this to happen. There was opportunity to do something and they didn't. They want the Islamists to do their dirty work. Once it's done there will be a new war to unseat them.
ISIS is sitting in a wide open desert shootin gallery.
Turkey is right now busy switching sides.
Syrian Arab Army is kicking ISIS ass.
Hezbulha knows what to do.
Iran looks like they know what do to.
Russia, maybe others will help.
In France, in the middle ages, when an army outlived it's usefulness w/i the borders, the King or whoever would send them for a blessing by one of up to 4 Popes and then over the Pyrenees they would go, to die fighting the Moors.
On one hand O'Sullivan says that Isis is a group too radical for even Al-CIA-DUH, and on the other hand he says it's not a military issue, but a political one. What the hell do they think they are going to do? Lop off a few heads and then settle down for some tea and crumpets? I have an idea... Let them iron it out themselves.
What Meghan O’Sullivan is really saying is... I never saw this coming...
Another absolute twit from Harvard here to tell everyone what to do. The obvious correct answer is to do the opposite of what she is proposing.
Harvard. Gerald Celente refers to those Ivy League vermin as "The White Shoe Boys".
I'd add Pussy White Shoe Boys.
The vast majority of biggest crooks and murderers (war criminals, dead and living) who have "served" in the US government, or screwed America in some way, graduated from Harvard, Yale, Columbia, or Princeton.
Ben Bernanke (Harvard)
GW Bush (Harvard & Yale) (granted the retard didn't get in on academic performance but that's precisely sort of a point)
Obama (Columbia & Harvard)
GH Bush (Yale)
Many CEOs of big banks on Wall St. have roots in Harvard; it's practically the birthplace for the biggest thieves, thugs, and other criminals in the world.
Well Bill (also Hillary since she never told him), it took a while but I finally figured out your question. It means Islamic State!
Iran & Iraq in deep Shiite?
As ever with these ridiculous Abrahamic death cults, 'I believe in an invisible man in the sky in a slightly different way to you, therefore you must DIE!'
Awesome.
http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/their-god-changes-path-of-rockets-in-mid-air/...
We should auction Iraq off with the stipulaton that the country is currently infested with termites and try to recoup some of our money.
This periodic tenting for infestations is a loser.
Time to cut losses and run.
No, the situation can be saved. First, we supply the Kurdish rebels with anti-aircraft missiles. Then, we make friends with Iran, who don't like the Pakistanis (who have nukes). Then we leverage our existing relations with the democratically elected government in EYE-rack, who still worships us because the liberated them from SAD-AM, to form an alliance of Curds, Iranians, and Iraqis resulting in a new "stan" (with a name comprised of all three names). Then, while we working on this, the Kurdish rebels accidentally shoot down an Turkish airliner - full of children - and everybody goes, like: Sorry, sorry, my bad. Sorry..