America The Divided: Everyone Knows We Have Problems But There Is Very Little Agreement On Solutions

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

A house divided against itself will surely fall.  America is more divided today than it has been in decades, and the deep divisions that are tearing us apart continue to get even worse.  In fact, a newly released Rasmussen Reports national survey discovered that 67 percent of voters believe that America is even more divided now than it was four years ago.  We are angry, we are frustrated and we love to fight with one another, but none of this strife and discord is getting us anywhere.  What most Americans can agree on is that we are facing tremendous problems as a nation.  One average of recent polls found that only 26 percent of Americans believe that this country is heading in the right direction and 63.8 percent of Americans believe that this country is heading in the wrong direction.

Unfortunately, there is very little agreement on what the solutions to our problems are.  That is where the division is.  As a nation, we no longer have a shared set of values or principles that provides a foundation for our decisions.  Everyone just kind of does whatever is right in their own eyes, and the result is chaos.  At a minimum, the U.S. Constitution was supposed to bond all of us together, but it has become clear that very few of our lawless politicians have any respect for that document at this point.  And the American people must not have too much respect left for the Constitution either, because they keep sending the very same politicians back to Washington over and over again.  Unless a miracle happens, everyone is going to keep pulling in different directions, and that is going to continue ripping our country to shreds.

The issues that divide us are countless.  The following are just a few examples...

-Illegal Immigration

-Taxes

-Obamacare

-Government Debt

-U.S. Military Intervention In Foreign Countries

-Gay Marriage

-Abortion

-Racial Relations

-Unemployment

-Shipping Our Jobs Overseas

-Cost Of Living/Inflation

-The Gap Between The Wealthy And The Poor

-Social Security/Medicare/Entitlements

-The Size And Role Of Government

-Welfare

-Political Correctness

-Sexual Morality

-Global Warming/Climate Change

-Guns/Gun Control

-Common Core

-Corporate Corruption

-Government Surveillance

-The Emerging Big Brother Police State

-The War On Drugs

-The War On Terror

-U.S. Relationship With Israel

-The Role Of Faith In Society

I could go on and on with this list, but I think that you get the point.

If you pick just about any issue on that list, there are large numbers of Americans that want to take us one way and large numbers of Americans that want to take us exactly in the opposite direction.  In many instances, both sides consider their opponents to be the epitome of evil.

Sadly, the fights that take place among those that are supposed to be on the same side are often even more disturbing.  Some of the most bitter fighting that I have ever witnessed has been between people that should be working together.  In fact, it often seems like a lot of people would rather fight others in their own "movement" than do something constructive.

And actually the establishment loves when we fight with one another.  The more divided that we are, the easier we are to control.

I am often asked if I think that there is any hope for a political solution in this country.

I wish that I could be more optimistic when I answer, but as divided as this country is right now I see absolutely no hope for a political solution on the national level any time soon.

Even though Darth Vader has a higher favorability rating than any 2016 White House contenders, it is inevitable that one of them (with the full backing of the elite) will be our next president.  And even though a few incumbents will be knocked out of Congress in 2014 and 2016, history has shown us that incumbents typically have a victory rate of more than 80 percent in election after election.

We keep sending the same jokers back to D.C. again and again and yet we continue to keep expecting different results.

Are we insane or what?

In a previous article, I noted a whole bunch of other polls and surveys that show how dissatisfied the American people have become with our government...

#1 65 percent of Americans are dissatisfied “with the U.S. system of government and its effectiveness”.  That is the highest level of dissatisfaction that Gallup has ever recorded.

#2 66 percent of Americans are dissatisfied “with the size and power of federal government”.

#3 70 percent of Americans do not have confidence that the government will “make progress on the important problems and issues facing the country in 2014.”

#4 Only 8 percent of Americans believe that Congress is doing a “good” or “excellent” job.

#5 Only 4 percent of Americans believe that it would “change Congress for the worse” if every member was voted out during the next election.

#6 60 percent of Americans report feeling “angry or irritable”.  Two years ago that number was at 50 percent.

#7 53 percent of Americans believe that the Obama administration is “not competent in running the government”.

#8 An all-time low 31 percent of Americans identify themselves as Democrats.

#9 An all-time low 25 percent of Americans identify themselves as Republicans.

#10 An all-time high 42 percent of Americans identify themselves as Independents.

Clearly the American people are sick and tired of politics as usual.

But even if we voted out every single member of Congress, who would we replace them with?

That is where not having a shared set of values and principles comes into play.

Even if we could start from scratch, the new politicians that the American people would send to Congress would not suddenly look like the founding fathers.

That is because we no longer believe in the same values and principles that they did.

Instead, an entirely new Congress would probably end up looking very much like the old Congress did.

I wish that national unity was just as easy as saying something like this: "Come on guys - let's all just get together and agree to do what is right for the country."

That sounds really good, but what is right for the country?

In America today, there is very little agreement about what is right and wrong anymore.

And politically, it is hard enough to get a handful of people to agree on much of anything these days, much less the millions upon millions of people that would be required to form a viable political movement.

So no, I don't believe that there will be a political solution on the national level any time soon.  The government that we have already reflects what is in the hearts of the American people.

Until we start seeing hearts change on a widespread basis, we are not going to see any significant change in Washington.

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Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:22 | 5001792 F-Tipp
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"I like money"

Thanks, Idiocracy.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:31 | 5001837 Fedaykinx
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go way, batin!!!!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:37 | 5001839 Anusocracy
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The problem with how every government works is that it dumbs everything down and simultaneously evils everything up.

It can never be beneficial except to those who are in charge.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:01 | 5001942 philipat
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Quite correct. In a Democracy (And even more so in a Constitutional Republic) You get the Government You deserve.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:05 | 5001957 Fedaykinx
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woud you like to try our EXTRA BIGASS .GOV?  now with more molecules

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:47 | 5002075 flacon
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A country is made up of individuals, therefore "we" as a "collective" need to bug out of individuals lives and let individuals make their own choices. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:53 | 5002094 Anusocracy
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Seeing as though the selection of candidates is strongly controlled, you get the government the controllers want.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:01 | 5002227 toady
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I disagree.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 02:01 | 5002408 Slave
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Holy shit. 2 lists today.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:11 | 5002249 icanhasbailout
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if you set the system up right, it selects candidates who will do the things you want them to do without needing to directly tell them to do so

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 01:59 | 5002397 A Nanny Moose
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...and Brawndo

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 07:09 | 5002703 Headbanger
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It's got electrolytes.

 

The sad reality is America has become  "Idiocracy" where its people are so fucking stupid and distracted by bullshit issues that it's no wonder there's "no agreement on solutions"

There's too much fucking stupidity and anything goes when nothing matters.

Just look at what we elected for "Presdent of America"

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:07 | 5001958 AssFire
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Don't know exactly where we are.. but this is where we are destined to go. So incapable and so debased of moral values we are basically incapable of self governance.

(From Spenglers decline of the West- 1918- 1922)

 

Autumn: Urban rise. High point of disciplined organizational strength.

  • Religion: Faith in the omnipotence of rationality. Cult of Nature. The height of mathematical thought. The last idealists. Theories of knowledge and logic.
  • Art: Fulfillment of high artistic potentials of culture- sculpture in Greece, contrapuntal music in the West. At the beginning of Autumn, art possesses complete freedom to manifest the Destiny-vision of a people through its particular perfected formal technique. However, the end of Autumn witnesses the exhaustion of the possibilities of that technique, leading to craft-art in imitation of the great style as well as artistic revolt.
  • Politics: Struggles between the aristocracy and the bourgeoisie. Revolutions. Napoleonism.

Winter: Coming fissure in the world-urban civilization. Exhaustion of mental organization strength. Irreligiousness rises.

  • Religion: Materialism: Cults of science, utility, and luck. Ethical-social ideals: philosophy without mathematics, skepticism. The last mathematical thinkers. Decline of abstract thinkers, and the rise of specialized academic philosophy. Spread of the last ideas.
  • Art: End of symbolic art. All art becomes meaningless subjects of fashion.
  • Politics: Democracy, meritocracy, plutocracy, followed by caesarism and bureaucracy.
Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:15 | 5003263 Milestones
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Spengler is a tough read. Some because of subject matter and style, or lack thereof. Having said that, I think Slengler was right on the money with this book Decline of the West. 

Very important work but not many people in this country have the curosity or brains to handle this major histoical book.

Must admit my minor was ancient history so it kinda fit in for me.              Milestones 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:07 | 5001961 Alpo for Granny
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Welcome to Costco. I love you.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:03 | 5001951 QEternity
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"There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose." - Keynes

Burn in hell you fuckin' twat

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:26 | 5001801 tickhound
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I agree with this headline. Even ask all the boomergoons around here and they'll tell u to just vote republican.

Yen'll tell ya. He'll bring charts to prove it.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:00 | 5001940 Zorrohodge
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It's the same thing with people who blame others who voted for Obama for causing all the world's problems. As if somehow the problems we have would be fixed by a McCain or a Romney administration.

You can vote, just don't pretend it makes any substantive difference. If you vote democrat, you're voting for some weed and gay rights, that's all.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:05 | 5002237 toady
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Weed AND gay rights?

Can't I just have the weed?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:40 | 5003645 Abaco
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There is no such things as gay rights.  There are human rights to which gays are entitled like anyone else.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:21 | 5004137 goneYonder
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True. And there's no such thing as 'legalizing weed', there is only the absence of decrees which interfere with man's proper exercise of his natural rights. Remove the mental constructions and the truth shines clearly.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:25 | 5001806 Four chan
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the two party system is the problem, isn't it obvious yet?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:00 | 5001935 agNau
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It is the biggest diversion tool in the bag.
The diversion is continually fed.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:10 | 5001982 bluskyes
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Are you saying there should be more or less parties?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 04:35 | 5002558 boattrash
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bluskyes, pick ANY number, then subtract 2... the Elephant and Ass have proven levels of corruption that would justify RICO statutes and banning members from office.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 07:15 | 5002710 Headbanger
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No. The problem is the "be fucking duhhhh to fit in" mentality Americans have wanted to have for decades now.

It will be only when Americans must think for themselves to survive that it will improve.

But that will probably take a complete destruction of every support system Americans have now.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:07 | 5002243 toady
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Don't blame me, I voted for Kang.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 03:12 | 5002486 August
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Last time I voted in the States, I wrote in Ricardo Montalban.

Would have been better than a Clinton, I figure.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 02:00 | 5002402 A Nanny Moose
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No. Obedience is the problem. Orders only work when obeyed.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 04:30 | 5002551 boattrash
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Four chan, spot on! My knee-jerk reaction/solution was a .375 H&H Magnum for both, the Elephant and the Ass. However, maybe just look at the list of things we're divided on, and compare it to the powers given to Gov. in the Constitution. I'm pretty sure that "Old Piece of Paper" would clear most of the list, as Fed Gov has no business in most of it.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:25 | 5001807 Spastica Rex
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I thought all of us agreed that concentrating power - in the right place, of course - is the solution to all our problems.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:30 | 5001826 DeadFred
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There are no solutions. It's gonna crash.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:10 | 5001974 bluskyes
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The crash is a good step towards a solution.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 02:10 | 5002425 A Nanny Moose
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The most appropriate comment of the night. "Solutions" are what got us in this fucking mess in the first place.

Calling for more solutions, is just moar full retard on the initiation of force....which always results in exactly the opposite of its stated intent.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:26 | 5001811 world_debt_slave
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united we stood, divided we have fallen

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:32 | 5001838 Everybodys All ...
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Without a moral people any chance at a functioning democracratic republic will fail.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:33 | 5001843 world_debt_slave
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NYT had a great expose on Cuomo's so called independent ethics board, hillarious read.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:42 | 5001877 i_call_you_my_base
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He really showed himself to be a piece of shit.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 23:00 | 5002113 Anusocracy
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Morality and moral people can be manipulated.

Ingroup-outgroup morality is an important one for manipulation. Just use lots of lies and repeat them often.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:11 | 5003806 Anusocracy
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So many totally clueless people.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:38 | 5001859 Everybodys All ...
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sorry ... meant to obviously say democratic republic.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:33 | 5001842 i_call_you_my_base
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Everyone thinks is it's politics, but it's corruption.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:11 | 5001985 tickhound
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The corruption AND the politics are symptomatic of the "economic" model itself. Any fix short of changing the model is temporary, at best.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:34 | 5001850 Usura
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Very little agreement on "solutions"?  More interim solutions treating the symptoms, or perhaps some final solutions targeting the underlying disease?

Maybe the usual suspects should be put into concentration camps until some concensus can be agreed.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:37 | 5001858 nmewn
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No "Change" with me...ever.

The MSM (from Noonan to Brooks to a panting Krugman) and the "movers & shakers" (from Buffet to Zuckerman) thought this fucking fraud of a humanitarian, this Nobel Peace Prize winner, this "man" who has presided over more people being in poverty than any other in modern times, who has never held down a real job in his entire life, who prefers to use a "pen & a phone" over gathering facts to present a case, who has watched as "the rich get richer" (even with his pen & phone close to hand), who has done the exact opposite of his promises...they can live with it and all the carnage.

Its glorious.

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:00 | 5001939 Yes_Questions
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did I miss something?

 

we're clear your list of shit above was well underway before the great 1/2 black hope arrived, right?

 

 

 

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:23 | 5002013 nmewn
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You get me wrong, I want him to accelerate the debt (he's doubled it so far). We already paid for the ticket. We might as well enjoy the ride down the other side so our kids kids don't have to pay for the same ride.

Thrice ;-)

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:49 | 5002083 Yes_Questions
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Thanks..

 

scared me there for a moment. 

 

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:22 | 5001963 Cabreado
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Yes, but I find it sad and amazing that in your rant, you didn't even give that 535 a glance... as if you didn't know that it existed in the first place.

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:25 | 5002018 nmewn
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Call me ignorant...535?

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