CEO Of Russia's 2nd Largest Gold Producer Is "Horrified" At Market Manipulation

Tyler Durden's picture

The ongoing transition of gold price manipulation from conspiracy theory to conspiracy fact just escalated as Bloomberg reports, Peter Hambro, chairman of Russia's 2nd largest gold producer Petropavlovsk Plc, said he was "horrified" by the manipulation of the London fix given its importance to the industry. One wonders just how many of these individuals, involved in the manipulation, Hambro is dinner-party friends with?

 

As Bloomberg reports,

“When I read the reports on what people had been doing to it, I was horrified,”Hambro said in an interview today. “It is something that is really important to people in the industry. It’s something that we use in a big way as we deliver our gold, that’s how we price.”

 

Barclays Plc was fined $44 million earlier this year after a trader sought to influence the gold fix in 2012. The gold fixing takes place twice a day by phone and is used by mining companies to central banks to trade or value the metal.

 

The banks conducting the century-old London gold fixing and the London Gold Market Fixing Ltd., which runs the procedure, are seeking to revamp the process. Deutsche Bank AG’s exit from the process this year as it scales back its commodities business left Societe Generale SA, Bank of Nova Scotia, HSBC Holdings Plc and Barclays to conduct fixings.

 

“To have something that we can rely on is vitally important,” said Hambro, who previously traded bullion at Marc Rich Group and Mocatta & Goldsmid Ltd. “I look forward to its continuing existence.”

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While we believe Hambro is right to be "horrified;" after 10 years of manipulation (downwards at least two-thirds of the time in six different years between 2004 and 2013. In 2010, large moves during the fix were negative 92 percent of the time), we suspect he knew something was going on...

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kliguy38's picture

hehehehehe........no shit sherlock

The Alarmist's picture

This is not confidence inspiring ... manipulation is an ordinary business event, so I would expect a statement that there might or not be a reasonable opportunity to take advantage of such mispricings.

NOTaREALmerican's picture

Re: manipulation is an ordinary business event

Shhhh,  the "pure capitalism" children might hear you.    

NoDebt's picture

Cue the obligatory Casablanca quote.

Mr. Magoo's picture

Nothing to see here all you Goyim slaves, Move along

philipat's picture

When CME takes control of "The Fix" the paper tail will then be in complete control of the physical dog. But at least the REAL manipulation with Comex naked paper shorts will then come more into focus. "The Fix" is a very small part of the process of manipulation, which Hambro surely understands. I call BS and hypocrisy..

Elvis the Pelvis's picture

The price of gold will continue to drop.  Deflation is your new idol.  Now get on your knees and pray to your god.  Bitchez.

Mr. Magoo's picture

"The price of gold will continue to drop"

The Chinese, Russians and Indians dont seem to mind. neither do I

Greenskeeper_Carl's picture

Ya doing away with this fix isn't going to do shit. As long as they still have the ability to dump billions of dollars worth of paper during thin trading, this getting rid of the fix is just window dressing. And ya, now that's it's coming out, you will see people like this coming out and trying to distance themselves from it, as if someone in his position wasn't fully aware of it.

BringOnTheAsteroid's picture

We are the last ones who should complain about gold fixing In fact we should send the trader a bottle of red for keeping the price low so we can keep buying. all that matters is ownership, not price.

Blammo's picture

What tipped me off was that it's called the London price "fixing".

 

Canadian Dirtlump's picture

Yeah the fix is real scary.. the dumping of billions of unbacked paper though.. that doesnt bear mention..

 

Setting up the political canard that fix the fix and the market fixing is fixed.. which is bullshit.

Not Too Important's picture

Let the lawsuits begin! They'll add up to trillions upon trillions of dollars.

Jim Willie says the lawsuits against the Swiss banks with no gold have already started, and the banker murders are to slow the German investigation into which Germans/German banks lost money in gold manipulation, as the German government is going to sue everyone and their brother for trillions of losses, which will set off a full round of additional international lawsuits against the manipulators.

Good luck keeping this out of the press. If Ukraine is also a demonstration for Germany to shut up, good luck with that. Unlike the US sleeping public, the Germans are hearing of this every day in every news outlet, and Russia is probably providing a shit ton of intel. Hell, they'll sue, too.

This is going to be epic!

 

greatbeard's picture

>> Jim Willie says

If Jim Willie was right 30% of the time I'd be a rich guy holding off the zombie horde at my country bunker.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

Yeah, doesn't help much if you predict 11 of the last 2 collapses...

Not Too Important's picture

We knew it, yes, WW, but it's the lawsuits coming that'll be fun to watch.

The upside of Holder not prosecuting anyone, is that the civil trials can start right away. No waiting for the criminal trials to finish, which always have priority.

Holder not prosecuting will let the action start far sooner than anyone wants. The civil lawyers are filing their claws and doing due diligence as we speak.

WhackoWarner's picture

True.  I kinda want to see the same enthusiasm and public inclusion as the "ambulance chaser accident lawyers" who  advertise all over every Judge Judy show. 

 

astoriajoe's picture

Either he is clueless and shouldn't be CEO, or is complicit and shouldn't be CEO.

RaceToTheBottom's picture

Probably ex KGB (or its variants).  What you see is probably only half the picture.

villainvomit's picture

Exactly......he is the Chairman of the second largest producer in Russian and is just now horrified ? ARFKM ?

 

IllusionOfChoice's picture

I think his point of view is well summarized in the last quote "I look forward to its continuing existance."

What more do you need to know about this guy?

Da Yooper's picture

Dont wine about it Peter Hambro

 

do somethings to end it

 

Ohhhh & dont say like some ass clown once told me that it's

 

"Market forces at work"

 

BS

 

otherwise you are no better than those

 

who rigg & manipulate the metals

 

NOTaREALmerican's picture

Should that be set to a rapper beat?

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

He should be ECSTATIC. Why? Cause he can BTFD for phyz!

oddjob's picture

Can we hear again how ZH misled you into buying PM's?

lakecity55's picture

I wuz stackin' before ZH was even an electron.

Joebloinvestor's picture

The Bloomberg report is a bunch of shit.

They do not admit that the price was manipulated (it bloody well was!), the complaining customer (who got screwed) was paid off, and that Barclays reported itself (it had no choice).

goldhedge's picture

NO ONE in prison for this.  Surprise surprise.

 

RaceToTheBottom's picture

The manipulation by the one trader is peanuts compared to the real manipulation.  

His crime was pushing the price short term to one side or another of a price to profit for his firm (and therefore himself).  But at least he had to unwind his position.

The manipulation of a FED that can print unlimited amounts of money for the expressed purpose of manipulating PMs down is much worse.

q99x2's picture

BRICS should create their own price that is based on supply and demand.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Too complicated and too much BS.

They should just buy up ALL the phyz (at these low, low prices), and that would solve the problem once and for all.

In the final analysis, it's not a "paper" or even "price" problem. It's a Supply/Demand problem.

Winston Churchill's picture

Coming soon to the Shanghai FTZ.Along with full yuan covertability in the zone.

Was supposed to be this month, but they delayed it to Q4.

Thats the reason the 'fix' is being abandoned now, to match that  original timeline.

The paper games continue for a while longer, take advantage of it while you still can.

JohninMK's picture

Peter Hambro is part of the Hambros Bank est 1836 dynasty and as such is pretty close to being in TPTB. Petropavlovsk plc is formerly Peter Hambro Mining plc.

Clearly he and his family must have been well aware of what was happening and is only whining now when the cost price of the real gold he mines is close to or under the paper price in the markets. He should be complaining to the central banks like the Fed and BoE who are rigging the price to retain faith in fiat paper.

Duc888's picture

 

 

 

Damage control.  "I didn't know"

 

RRRRRAAAYYYYYTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.

lakecity55's picture

"Guys, guys, look, I did what ValJar told me to do...I was duped. Hey! This rope is getting kinda tight. C'mon guys, I can get you some free phones and EBT cards. Guys! Wait!

bid the soldiers shoot's picture

Speaking of the 'London fix', anybody hear anything about the black box yet?

logicalman's picture

Given his former employment, he absolutely had to know what realy goes o.

Bit like a guy caught riding a bike he stole and claiming it is a 'plant'

I'd like to know why he's saying this now - the back story. Always more interesting than what is in the public domain.

 

TrustWho's picture

Professionals get paid a lot of money to be protected common crimminals. 

AllWorkedUp's picture

Typical. "Petropavlovsk plc is formerly Peter Hambro Mining plc."

Whiney bitch should have said something years ago. I guess Zionists only whine when they are screwed by other Zionists. Fuck them.

Cacete de Ouro's picture

And there was even a Zionist in-joke during the name change....Seriously...

"Mr Hambro – chairman – and Mr Maslovsky, who was then chief executive, looked at name options: "Hamas was one; combining the first two letters of our surnames – but we realised that wouldn't be so clever," he laughed.

"So we came up with the idea of combining our first names – hence Petropavlovsk – Peter and Paul."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/peter-hambro-company-g...

WTFUD's picture

I'm horrified that he's horrified.

Spungo's picture

Quite frankly my dear, fuck Bernanke.