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How Iran's Supreme Leader Really Feels: "Annihilation Of The Murderous, Usurping Regime Of Israel Is The Only Cure"

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If there was any doubt whether following the recent, and quite surprising, detente between the US and Iran, which from a state that was shunned by the US for decades has transformed into a country that has been actively courted by the US in recent months, that Iran would change its tune toward that other bossom US ally in the middle east, Israel, it can be put to reset following the latest pronouncement by Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who on Wednesday called for a referendum canvassing the Arabs and Jews that live in Israel in order to end the "Zionist state."

Khamenei and his predecessor the Ayatollah Rouhollah Khomeini have called repeatedly over the years for an end to the Jewish state, including through a referendum in the region, where Palestinians are in the majority.

 

In his first official comments on Israel since the start of its offensive on the Gaza Strip on July 8, Khamenei reiterated the call.

Khamenei won't be making many, or any for that matter, friends in the AIPAC with the following harshly worded statement.

"There are logical and practical means to this end, which is for people who live and belong there to pick the government of their choice through a referendum. That would be the end of a usurping fake regime," Khamenei, who has the last word in all matters in Shi'te Muslim Iran, said in a speech to university students in Tehran.

 

Until then, Khamenei said, "while waiting for an end to this cold-blooded murderous regime, mighty armed resistance is the only way to deal with it."

 

Khamenei made clear for the first time that he was talking about the dismantling of the state of Israel, not the death of Jews.

 

"Israel's annihilation is the only real cure, but that doesn't mean destroying Jews in this region," he said in his speech, which was posted on his website.

As noted above, this comes at a time when Iran's new president Hassan Rouhani is trying to improve ties with Western countries, including the United States, in a public relations war with Israel. In addition to the Ayatollah's statement, Iran will mark "International Qods Day," an annual event falling on the last Friday of Ramadan, with nationwide organised demonstrations in solidarity with Palestinians and against Israel.

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Then again, one wonders: while clearly this dramatic theatrical performance is for popular consumption, one wonders what is really happening behind the scenes?

For the answer we go back to our post from February in which we explained that "US And Israel Quietly Provide Military Support And Parts To Iran, Which In Turn Is Arming Syria."

And now you know.

 

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Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:10 | 4999399 jubber
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Iran does have a Jewish MP  BTW

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:12 | 4999407 fightthepower
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Thanks Rothschilds!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:15 | 4999427 john39
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I find no fault with his reasoning. The regime is corrupt and illegitimate.   the trouble will not end until it is dissolved.  And not only that regime, but all the others it controls.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:19 | 4999446 strannick
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Well, its hard to argue with his first part..

"While waiting for an end to this cold-blooded murderous regime, mighty armed resistance is the only way to deal with it.."

Then again, they could always just give peace a chance.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:28 | 4999520 hedgeless_horseman
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"When this war is over, the Japanese language will be spoken only in hell"

 

- Admiral Bill Halsey (December 7, 1941)

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:35 | 4999567 NoDebt
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I feel like quoting the Church Lady from SN hereL:  "Well, isn't that special."

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:45 | 4999630 Divided States ...
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Working in the investment field, sometimes I get the same feeling too....this comes from the feeling that the Jews on Wall Street are out there to take my money in some form or another and that the only way to fix the problem is to get rid of them...not all of them, but most of them.

GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK hh

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:47 | 4999660 fuu
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It's like Iran-Contra all over again! Israel sells weapons to Iran, the US sends better replacements to Israel, money gets laudered to South America.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:54 | 4999705 0b1knob
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If they got a nickel for every time the 'rabs threatened to destroy Israel, the Jews would all be rich.   Oh wait....

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:22 | 4999877 SWRichmond
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"Israel's annihilation is the only real cure, but that doesn't mean destroying Jews in this region," he said in his speech, which was posted on his website

Not saying I believe him about the second phrase after the comma (I do not) but this is a stunning choice of words for him to use publicly.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:03 | 5000095 rbg81
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Why?   Saying "it doesn't means destroying Jews in the region", does not rule it out either.  Its just doubletalk. Look at what has happened to Arab Christians in the Middle East--they are being systematically cleansed from the region (Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq).  Those who accuse israel of genocide (even though the Palestinian population of the West Bank and Gaza has quadrupled since 1970) are completely blind to this.  Arabs citizens of Israel live in peace, prosperity and have voting rights.  In contrast, Syria butchers 170K of its own citizens and ISIS orders the gential mutilation of its women.  

Everyone on ZH knows that putting the PA in charge of Israel would result in a Second Holocaust for the Jews.  And probably quite a few here like that idea.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:27 | 5000251 Againstthelie
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You mean the fourth Holocaust:

The first in the bible.

The second during WW1.

The third during WW2.

 

So often as the Jews allegedly have been removed from this planet, I'm wondering why they still are dominating everything?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:20 | 5000458 Quus Ant
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If you really want to get under the Zionist skin keep the focus on the settlements.

That's what all this disinfo is about-  Distraction.  Keeping the settlements growing until they are a political reality that cannot be reversed.

The UN, INCLUDING THE UNITED STATES, agree the settlements are illegal and must be abandoned. 

So GTFO, Israel.  Stop illegally occupying land the WORLD agrees is Palestine and then we can talk about your issues. 

 

Oh, and as the dollar goes..... so goes Zion.  ;)

Full stop.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:21 | 5000536 Divided States ...
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Im worried about companies like GOOG and FB who has assess to all the personal info of almost everyone...plus GOOG is into robotics now which means that even the 1%...can destroy the rest of the world population if they mass produce these armed machines.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:31 | 5000571 Quus Ant
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And cue the distraction!  ha ha ha ha ha....... oh, Jesus.....

"Let me emphasize at this point the position of the United States of America on the settlements is that we consider them... to be illegitimate,"  John Kerry

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Kerry-US-considers-Israeli-settlements-...

The world has spoken.  GTFO of the occupied territories. 

 

 

See how easy that was?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:50 | 5000777 COSMOS
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Robots need energy to run on.  Just take out the pipelines and the convoys of fuel.  Robot problem eliminated.

Alas that works the same for people lol.  Stop gas supplies all of a sudden across the USA and see what happens.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:19 | 5001580 ILLILLILLI
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What the Zionist wants, the Zionist takes.

 

Read about the deception here:

http://www.balfourproject.org/balfour-and-palestine/

 

Every word out of a Zionists mouth is a lie...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:29 | 5001817 freak of nature
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"Every word out of a Zionists mouth is a lie..."

 

Der Giftpilz. History doesn't rhyme, it repeats.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 23:35 | 5002155 MontgomeryScott
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'Six Million Jews': 1915-1938...

The article with the page screenshots of the old newspaper clippings for download as screenshots is much better, but this Youtube video might give you the idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

Fracking PRECIENT and PREDICTIVE programming (before the so-called 'holocaust'), and something to consider: THIS was being employed to make you think another 'historical fact' that might or MIGHT NOT have really happened (it still lives as the popular Myth that is taught today as 'historical fact', and don't you DARE question it!).

"Well, Alex, I'll pick 'The Mick' for 6 million!" (oh, sorry, that's 'rayciss').

DEAR 'GIFT-PILZ': REALITY is a BITCH. (WOW! I managed to 'anglacise' this, and bring up the fact that people go to 'doctors' and get 'perscriptions' that they consider to be 'gifts', all at the same time! The 'gift-pills'! 'Der 'Prozac'! 'One pill makes you larger; and one pill makes you small,...) As an 'aside', I will post a video which describes the song I am referencing. Sometimes, I go off on the 'wildest' tangentical thinking (just for fun!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0

No WONDER the kikes were working to kill the cat-licks and 'protestants' in Belfast for all those centuries by supplying both sides with arms and 'false-flag' events! The all-encompassing black mass (AKA 'ROTHSCHILD') seeks to own every 'jot and tittle' of TRUE HISTORY.

The seed of Abraham is warring against the seed of Ishmael. As an outsider to their family squabble about who is entitled to the 'inheritance', I can do nothing but laugh (as well as 'lock and load'). They BOTH don't give a shit who they kill (but I have a problem being kiled by either one of them; or anybody else for that matter). One or the other seeks that little stip of land in the Middle East about the size of the United States State of Maryland; and neither side gives a SHIT about causing a nuclear world war (just so that either one can say 'we won', before they give their last dying breath to feel 'victorious').

One branch cuts it's little cocks, and one prefers smegma on it's little cocks. BASICALLY, that is where the difference ENDS.

They're both in to ritualistic 'religious' shit. They both declare the Sabbath 'day' as 'HOLY', and have written laws for themselves so that breaking of these would mean death by stoning. Niether one can 'tolerate' eating pork. They both treat their women as 'second-class citizens'. They BOTH condone child sexual abuse (one branch by marrying girls as young as three, and the other by openly having sex with either sex until the age of three). they are both war-like, and like to attack each other for the slightest provocation. BOTH have tried to engraciate themselves with the REST OF THE KNOWN and CIVILIZED WORLD in order to gain the best WEAPONS with which to eradicate the other. Ritualistic torture and the endurance of their victim's deaths are paramount in their 'religious' ceremonies. They both encourage the slaughter of their enemy's children (at least to the age of 13), and recent events indicate that this will not be changed EVER. PAIN is their mantra, and DEATH is their sustenance from which they derive a wicked and Satanic pleasure.

EVERY WORD from EITHER of the branches' mouths is designed specifically to deceive those who are not educated in the truth and the reality of this familial and timeless struggle against each other (and they BOTH don't give a shit about YOUR life; as long as your DEATH will further THEIR collective CAUSES). Meanwhile, 'Satan, laughing, spreads his wings!'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GRR_n_yQGA

The song might be old, but in many senses, it's TIMELESS.

History doesn't just RHYME. It gets worse and Worse and WORSE AND WORSE with every passing minute; and the REPETITION soon sings a song akin to the feedback loop from the world's largest electronic stereo amplifier (until your eardrums blow out and your ears begin to bleed and you feel the subsonic shockwaves growing in amplitude until your vital organs literally explode; and then they take your heart out of your chest while you are still alive and begin to eat your still-beating organ while you witness your last struggle to live).

Is THIS what you meant to say?

"Der Giftpilz. History doesn't rhyme, it repeats."

Those who read and link will be astonished, and those who do NOT have no standing to comment either way regarding my dark and true post.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:35 | 5000648 Skip
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/984576.html

Last update - 21:28 18/05/2008

Google co-founder: My family left Russia because of anti-Semitism

By Guy Rolnik, TheMarker correspondent

Distress due to anti-Semitism was the main reason his family left Russia, Google co-founder Sergey Brin told TheMarker in an interview over the weekend.

Brin, 34, was in Israel for President Shimon Peres' presidential conference "Facing Tomorrow," and visited Google's Israeli offices as well.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:43 | 5000723 Quus Ant
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Don't be so obvious, fellas. 

Oh, and get out of Palestine.  The United States says your settlements are illegal.

"all settlements are illegal under international law. For example, U.N. Security Resolution 465 calls on Israel to “dismantle the existing settlements.” In addition, Article 49(6) of the Fourth Geneva Convention, ratified by Israel in 1951, states: “The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obama-is-right-to-criticize-israe...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:10 | 5002246 MontgomeryScott
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Let's come to the reality of your posting.

Last update - 21:28 18/05/2008

Google co-founder: My family left Russia because of anti-Semitism

By Guy Rolnik, TheMarker correspondent

So called 'Arabs' and so-called 'Jews' are BOTH called 'Semites'. They are from the 'Semitic' bloodlines and the DNA tests are quite positive in this true statement.

Was GOOKLE'S 'co-founder' a SEMITE? I seriously have to wonder if his family originally hailed from HAIFA; or CAIRO.

All right. 'Sergey Brin' reeks of 'GYPSY' bloodlines, but 'GUY ROLNIK'? SERIOUSLY?

'DISTRESS' due to 'ANTI-SEMETISM'?

Was it the fact that the people he descended from considered it 'kosher' to fuck sheep (as well as males and females under the age of three)?

Do you know the transliteration of the popular word that describes those who hide in deep cover in order to work behind the scenes almost without notice in order to sway opinion? The CIA terminology calls those who do so 'MOLES'. YES, this is the popular term for a particular type of rodent, as well.

The ENTYMOLOGICAL Anglo-Saxon name of the rodents who hide deep and do great and irreperable damage to the spring gardens without being observed was ORIGINALLY derived from the slang of who bite the foreskins off of the males on the eighth day of their lives (THIS would be the Yiddish name of those, who are named 'MOYLES' in their own, twisted tongue).

WELL, since BRIN is now 34, he is ENTITLED to suck Shimon Peres' schlong (oops, I mean 'FACE HIM'), as well as doing a GOOKLE visit in the Holy Land.

Brin, 34, was in Israel for President Shimon Peres' presidential conference "Facing Tomorrow," and visited Google's Israeli offices as well.

 

DAMN, SKIPPY!


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:02 | 5001499 ILLILLILLI
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>> You mean the fourth Holocaust:

 

Dude, it's nothing BUT holocaust time...all the time.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paNIlYasCvA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkD6k9X62X8

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:49 | 4999672 Achnaton
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Sure, get rid of anyone smarter than you...

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:27 | 5000222 Againstthelie
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So you think it's smart to follow a culture where lying, stealing and making false oaths is allowed as long as no self declared "chosen ones" were negatively affected?

Beside the fact, that it's selective morale and therefore no morale at all, this is not smartness, it's plain and simple the advantage of the criminal for breaking rules others are respecting for a functioning society.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:49 | 5000363 Achnaton
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"So you think it's smart to follow a culture where lying, stealing and making false oaths is allowed as long as no self declared "chosen ones" were negatively affected?"

Is that a jew in your avatar? Is he the one who got the job you were after? the girl you fancied? I bet it was the girl.

 

"it's plain and simple the advantage of the criminal for breaking rules others are respecting for a functioning society"

and I bet you have never been to Israel where this statement simply cannot be claimed

 

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:19 | 5000520 Againstthelie
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Should this comment distract from the fact, that lying, stealing and false oaths are allowed in this fine "religion"?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:05 | 5000876 rbg81
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Yeah, because ONLY Jews lie and steal, right?  Do you have a reference for your assertion?  Or is it "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion?".

Or how about Islam, which says its okay for a Muslim to lie to an infidel to advance the cause of Jihad?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 17:36 | 5005417 KanKhaderKhanKan
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how about Islam, which says its okay for a Muslim to lie to an infidel to advance the cause of Jihad?

 

Which Islam? Sunni or Shia? Which verse in the Koran? Here's the thing though when it comes to using duplicity the Old Testament is rather revealing:  

http://www.thebricktestament.com/genesis/rape_treachery_and_slaughter/gn...

 

For those who can't bothered to watch the link here's a quick precis: A member of a rival tribe finds one of the daugthers of Jacob attractive and wants to marry her, he approaches the Israelites they say you can't marry her till you become jewish yourself &are circumcised so he and his tribe convert and circumcise, few days later whilst still recovering from circumcision the sons of Jacob break into their town massacre every man and their goats and enslave their women.

In the Old Testament there are countless stories of such treachery by children of Israel, it's one obscene story after another the worst being the Book of Joshua. Or what about the fact as Israel Shahak has pointed out that amongst a number of Jews the 10 commandments (e.g. 'thou shall not kill') only apply to Jews and not to gentiles or better still what about the stories of clever rabbis who trick both God and Gentiles alike. But you right this all irrelevant as this only applies to Sephardic Jews and not to you Ashkenazis who converted to Judaism whilst living near the Volga.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:09 | 5001531 Monty Burns
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Henry Ford 1st said that if you let a single Jew into a company or indeed any kind of organization they won't rest until they've taken it over by relentless and ruthless ethnic hardball.  Reluctantly I've come to believe that he was right. They're certainly smarter than the rest of us but taht doesn't even come close to explaining how they're running/ruining our lives.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:50 | 5001687 ILLILLILLI
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Theodor Fritsch laid it out plain and simple in his book "The Riddle of the Jew's Success:

You can read it for free here:

https://archive.org/details/TheodorFritschTheRiddleOfTheJewsSuccess

 

Once you know what "the game" is, it's "game over".

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:52 | 4999688 Croesus
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@ Hedgeless Horseman: 

If you're looking to add a great WWII book to your library, check out "With the Old Breed", by E.B. Sledge. It's his 1st-person account of his time in the Pacific theater (at Peleliu, and Okinawa), as part of the USMC K/3/5. The man tells it like it was, and it's hard to put down, once you start. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:52 | 5000091 DocinPA
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Exactly.  Level Gaza with a Linebacker III operation.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:37 | 5001649 IronForge
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For a War provoked by the USA.  Did you know that the Pearl Harbor plans were decrypted several months prior to the Attack?  Team_USA could have easily exposed and thwarted the Japanese Fleet Mid-Transit (with the same or better effect - maybe even avoided the War) and/or quitely prepped to take them out as they approached.

Now, Team_USA has Military Bases in Japan; and are lobbying to drag them into its Regime Change Wars.

BTW, what does this have to do with Israel,  Hedgeless?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:38 | 4999586 Raymond K Hessel
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Wouldn't it be great if we lived in a world where guys like that still walked the earth?

If you fuck with us, we'll destroy you.  

Now we live in a world where you can just say, "Hey, Mohammed says "After I get done raping Aisha we should make sure that if we find people who are not obedient to Allah to remember to enslave or kill them whenever we get a chance," so let's get busy with a global caliphate!"

...and people don't respond with HOLY SHIT WTF THESE PEOPLE ARE SOCIOPATHIC ASSHOLES!!!  GET THEM!! GET THEM!! GET THEM!!

Am I the only one who is just sick and fucking tired of these crazy islamic bastards?  Would you miss them if we just nuked the whole area?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:40 | 4999598 john39
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Israel and the U.S. have trying to effect "regime change" in Iran for decades.... and in fact, accomplished regime change there in the past.  How is what the Iranians are saying any different than official U.S. policy for Iran?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:55 | 4999710 Raymond K Hessel
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Is setting up a puppet regime wrong? Yes.

Do I give a shit? No.

If it weren't for people in America successfully impeding every form of mining and energy generation that actually produces the energy we need in excess the cost of generation and distribution, then we would not need to set up puppet regimes in other countries.

If it weren't for people in America supporting the Soviet Union, supporting the International movement, calling for communism but calling it social justice, then we would not need to set up puppet regimes near communist countries hell bent on  overthrowing capitalisam and liberty in our own countries.

Until the dictators and theocrats of communist, fascist, or islamic nations have no interest in toppling the West, I have no interest in sticking my head in the ground like an osterich.

Dear World,

Laissez faire, or I'll fuck you up. 

Love,

Captain America

 

I hate war as much as the next guy.  Being a Peaceful non-Interventionist is not the same thing as an Isolationist.  The international community look to America for leadership because we're so much better than they are and they know it.  They know we have the discipline in our cultural DNA to pick the most reasonable option so that both sides can feel good about peace.  

But will any of that stop me from looking to smack around an entire continent of people if they so much as bomb one tiny little commuter bus in the middle of Buttfuck, Nowhere, USA?  Will it?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:00 | 4999744 john39
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from where i am sitting, the international community hates the Unites States government... either openly or privately, but is forced to go along because of the dollar...

not much longer though.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:14 | 4999839 Raymond K Hessel
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That's why people risk their lives and the lives of their children to come to America. They hate America and are forced to come here in droves because, aww, they fucking hate us so much they need to be here so they can really get their hate on.

I don't think that's really true, at all.  

Instead, maybe the hate is coming from the leaders of these fucked up countries who want to live in a world where a shining example of what they are not and what they never will become keeps shedding light on their behavior, their criminality, their despotism.  

America.

Maybe the international community of royalty, theocrats, and tyrants, and the sycophants and bureaucrats who support them and are supported by them, hate us because they want to live in a world of hate, mistrust, slavery, rape, looting, and all sorts of crazy shit that keeps them rich and in power over a world that is their slave labor plantation.

Just maybe, I'm right and you're wrong, for as long as liberty exists on the Earth.

[Queue screeching eagle]

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:33 | 4999953 john39
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screeching eagle?  did you mean to stick a "sarc" tag there and forget? MDB is that you again?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:51 | 5000372 psychobilly
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What an idiot. They come for the freebies. A lot of what they earn gets sent home, where their real loyalties lie.

The fact that the USSA attracts poor, disease-ridden, criminally-inclined illiterates by the millions is not a feather in our cap.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:31 | 5000629 BruntFCA
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Dude, yes, many people really do hate the USA, or at least it's government. People are coming in droves to take advantage of the insane benefits the dollar "reserve" currency status grants the US. Do you think La Raza (the race) give 2 tits about your noble idea of the USA/Laze faire, Magna Carta, Constitution etc.

No, in their own countries they are screwed over by the same dollar system (borrow 1 billion, owe 50 billion, never pay if off lol). During the peak of the British Empire people would like to curry favor with the British etc, do you really think the British were somehow loved? They just want to use you.

From what I can see, the US you are referring to is dying. People of European descent are simply not having kids, meanwhile 40 million Latinos are popping out kids like nowhere. Eventually the police chief becomes a Latino, then the Mayor, then the Judges, you see where this is going. Do you think they are going to buy into some vague multicultural fantasy? Hello NO, they gonna want Atzlan!

The US was the way it was because most of the immigrants were of European descent, they had a similar cultural outlook, similar religion, had read similar books etc, they even had a similar IQ. Now flood the country with people who have no assets no,income no job, no education, and an IQ of around 80-90 do you think the US of 30 years from now is going to be an economic powerhouse?

Like many Americans your view of Islam is simply warped. Most people don't know the difference between a Sura, Hadith or the Koran. If you want to read some extreme stuff read the first 5 books of the Torah (the old Testament), it's so full of tribalist hatred and exortations to kill its unreal.

Many of the most violent clowns in the middle East are armed by the USA. The USA is in effect killing them by Proxy. If you want to start learning about the real middle East go and look up Max Igan and Gaza, he's been there, see what he has to say.

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:50 | 5000753 Skip
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Center for Immigration Studies, June 26, 2014
http://cis.org/all-employment-growth-since-2000-went-to-immigrants

First they came for the White working class because they were the least powerful White group, their unions destroyed and their jobs shipped overseas. But I didn’t speak out because I was well-educated and had a good job and certainly didn’t want to identity with White working class culture and interests and their low class connotations — a favorite target of Hollywood for at least 50 years.

Then they came for the White conservatives. Their power decimated by the immigration invasion, they could do nothing as all traditional values were uprooted. From immigration destroying homogeneous White communities, to abortion, to gay marriage, conservatives have lost every social cause in the last 50 years. But I didn’t speak out because liberal values seemed enlightened and, as a liberal, I certainly didn’t feel threatened by these changes.

With their transformative majority in place, they will be free to come after the White liberals who will have no allies remaining. The liberals will be shocked when they realize that human nature is not what they were told over and over again by our intellectual and media elites. They will then realize that it”s really been about ethnic warfare all along and that ethnic warfare has very real winners and losers.

But by then it will be too late.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:16 | 5001558 Monty Burns
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Hey, you can't say that!  It's the truth!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:02 | 4999762 DaveyJones
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"The international community look to America for leadership because we're so much better than they are and they know it."

- the unintended sarcasm award for 2014

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:05 | 4999784 Raymond K Hessel
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That's retarded.  

If we were to truly get out of every conflict, kick out the UN, and tell the world to figure it out, we'd end up regretting it.  I don't want America to have that job.  I wish we lived in a world that wasn't so fucked up. I wish that we didn't live in a world where the UN isn't saying, What is America going to do?

But we do live in that world. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:32 | 4999941 Utah_Get_Me_2
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The US govt has directly or indirectly started almost every single armed conflict for the last 40 years. The world is fucked up because the US govt along with the IMF/WorldBank have destablized it.

Problem-Reaction-Solution.

It's real simple. 

The US govt trains and funds jihadis across the middle east to destabilize regimes that don't want to bow to US hegemonic monetary domination.

The US govt lets them loose to murder, rape and destroy. International outrage.

The US govt comes to the rescue, sends in troops to deal with the jihadis they trained and the IMF promises aid packages designed to indebt the new puppet regime for decades.

Your PNAC, delusional view of the US govt and the world would be laughable if the world wasn't on the brink of thermonuclear war because of it.  

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:45 | 5000036 General Decline
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."The US govt has directly or indirectly started almost every single armed conflict for the last 40 years. The world is fucked up because the US govt along with the IMF/WorldBank have destablized it."

 

And who runs the US govt?  Hint: it's not Obama....

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:17 | 5000208 Utah_Get_Me_2
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I'm aware. That level of truth is way above Raymond's pay grade.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:34 | 4999961 DaveyJones
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"I wish that we didn't live in a world where the UN isn't saying, What is America going to do?"

you're ignoring the voting results in the other article. I guess your wish has come true

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:09 | 5001268 Boris D Blade
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YOUR GOVERNENT WAS THE ONE THAT FUCKED IT UP. WAKE UP. THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS SUBSIDISED YOUR EXCESSIVE CONSUMPTION FOR DECADES, AND NOW YOU WHINGE THAT THE WORLD IS FUCKED UP. WHAT FUCKING PLANET ARE YOU ON, VINCENT???

 

Yes i know my caps is stuck, but ffs, how can one be so blind??

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:16 | 4999854 Utah_Get_Me_2
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Did you forget the sarc/?

If not, this is the most delusional, historically inaccurate, neo-con fairytale I've ever read. It's not 2002 anymore. The illegitimate federal govt funds all the boogeymen and sends our soldiers to fight and die for a cabal of globalist bankers.  

'They know we have the discipline in our cultural DNA to pick the most reasonable option so that both sides can feel good about peace'

Tell that to the Iraqis.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:32 | 4999943 Raymond K Hessel
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Iraqis?  They allowed themselves to be ruled by a tyrant for whom Benito Mussolini was a role model!!!!

You really blame America for ISIS?  What kind of sick bastard wants to live in a caliphate where misogyny, pedophila, and murder are all socially accepted behavior?

I'm no neo-Con.  I'm also not naive to think if we were to close all the foreign bases and pull back all of our support from the world, that peace would break out all over the world.

These guys will just fill the vacuum with conquest and suffering not seen in the world in a hundred years. 

Look at how Libya turned out? We have very little to do with Libya. They seem to have nothing that comes close to a moral compass in any sense of the term that an American would recognize. 

In both examples, the vacuum was not filled with intelligent, thoughtful people who want a bright future for their nation.  Instead, both countries were filled with sociopathic murderers and looters who want a bright future for themselves.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:59 | 5000118 Quus Ant
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Look at how Libya turned out? We have very little to do with Libya.

What a maroon.  I can't believe anyone would argue with such a character.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:11 | 5000187 Utah_Get_Me_2
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Since you clearly have no knowledge of the verifiable facts regarding everything you just claimed, I'll go easy on you. 

Saddam Hussein was a CIA asset. Our govt put him in power. We gave him all the weapons his army used to fight the Iran-Iraq war and gas the Kurds. Look it up.

ISIS or the Islamic State is the 'rebel army' the CIA, MI6, Saudi/Qatari Intelligence and Turkey trained and armed at various places and times with the goal being the removal of Assad, who is seeking to distance itself from the petrodollar. Again, Look it up. There are hundreds of mainstream articles detailing this. Why do you think our military is doing nothing about them murdering everyone in their path?  By the way, Assad didn't gas his own people in the presence of UN inspectors. It is confirmed that 'rebels' armed by Turkey carried out the attack. Look it up.  

The US govt had everything to do with Libya. The Gaddafi govt was intentionally destabilized and destroyed by CIA funded jihadis. This is because they were attempting to create a currency based on the gold standard. That's a big no no. You don't threaten the petrodollar. Benghazi was about CIA weapons transfers to the jihadis in Syria, confirmed by Pulitzer prize winning journalists. Look it up.

You aren't a neo-con, but you are most certainly naive. Please inform yourself.

Don't you see the pattern? Everywhere the US govt has an interest or agenda in the Middle East and Africa that isn't under their direct control is overwhelmed with jihadi insanity. The vacuum is intentional Raymond. Destabilze, divide and conquer is the name of the game. It matters not to the moneyed interests that dictate US foreign policy whether their agenda is achieved with the barrel of an M4 wielded by a Marine or an AK-47 wielded by a Wahabist lunatic.  

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:18 | 5000216 redd_green
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The west has been installing and propping up dictatorships in the middle east for decades.    Where do you think things like the isis groups come from? 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:43 | 4999620 DaveyJones
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is it just me or is your last sentence the same behavior that you claim motivates your last sentence 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:02 | 4999763 Raymond K Hessel
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I think it's just you.  

No one wants to hurt Iran because their lifestyle choices.  They want to be misogynistic buttholes to each other, so what?  No American is thinking, gee we have to stop how these people are hurting themselves.  

I don't see N.O.W. calling to arms against the misogyny; Greenpeace is not upset how their economy has the carbon footprint of a NBA center; the Southern Law Poverty Center is not calling for sanctions against Islamic states who tax Christians for being Christian. 

What I'm saying is in my last sentence is enough already with the assymetry. They need to stop blowing shit up.  They need to stop with the nuclear arm development. They need to fix their own shit first.  Leave us alone.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:06 | 4999800 DaveyJones
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if "blowing shit up" is the rubric for invasion, we should all be speaking Chinese now  

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:00 | 5000139 Escrava Isaura
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Raymond K Hessel... You said: "They need to stop with the nuclear arm development."

Why?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:48 | 5000758 Rough-Trader
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I am tired of these Islamic bastards, unfortunately ZH readers hate Israel so much that they come to love the ass-Islam. I think it's a bit suicidal, but what can you do? They put their heads into the sand and let Muhammed shag in the ass. They like it is what disturbs me. I say destroy Islam and there will be peace.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:44 | 5001429 Martian Moon
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It's the towel hats

Freaking hot in the MidEast and these guys never remove these wrapped too tightly towel hats

Their brains must be toast, it would explain so much

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:06 | 4999795 Uncle Remus
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In the context of Fuku, that's not far off the mark...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:25 | 5002016 Anusocracy
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Well, I'm sure Halsey found out if it's spoken in Hell when he went there in 1959.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 06:08 | 5002642 ebear
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Mwahahah... Welcome to HELL, Admiral!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5341e_tSOAg

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:38 | 5000002 edotabin
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Blah blah blah blah.....some extra horse shit...blah blah blah......  All talk and posturing while they deal in the dark like the roaches they all are.

Blah blah blah.........

 

 

 

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:22 | 4999478 LibertyBear
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I heard Isreal is safe and a great place to visit.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:36 | 5001399 LibertyWorks
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I support Hamas, Al Qaeda and Boko Haram! Now do I fit in with the ZH elite. Oh...it's just the Jews that we are supposed to hate? OK, so I just support Hamas and their peaceful ways!  

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:16 | 4999435 RevRex
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He sounds like Adolph Hitler and many of the posters here.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:18 | 4999449 fightthepower
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How much do you get paid do post this stuff?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:18 | 4999454 strannick
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maybe stupidity is its own reward

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:24 | 4999496 RevRex
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Cowardly pussies attack me, not my posts!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:28 | 4999518 strannick
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If there is a difference, then there is hope

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:28 | 4999521 SoilMyselfRotten
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I hate picking low hanging fruit

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:29 | 4999921 Colonel Klink
Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:22 | 4999486 RevRex
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I post the truth for free, plus I like how cowards snivel, down arrow and engage in personal attacks when they realize they have no hope of refuting it.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:29 | 4999524 pods
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Most people will not engage you because they think what you have is contagious.

(actually it is because you are merely a troll and repeated attempts at an actual argument are met with poo flinging)

pods

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:46 | 4999635 DaveyJones
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self proclaimied invincibility demonstrates many things, none of them truth

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:46 | 4999651 SILVERGEDDON
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Hey, Rev Rex - no one can afford enough toilet paper to clean up all  the bullshit you keep spewing out. 

Put a cork in it, Mister.  

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:36 | 4999932 Colonel Klink
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"I post the truth for free"

Trust me, jews give NOTHING away for free, and certainly not the truth.  Usually if you believe then, It'll cost you!

Only one I've heard sniveling and refusing facts are you and those like you.

*Disclaimer, my apologies to those honest and charitable jews who I've insulted with my blanket use of the word.  Stereotypes are usually based in some sort of truth, like whitemen can't jump or we have flat asses.  Humor, get some!

One such exception I have great respect for, a true humanitarian at heart who saw more good than money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Salk

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:47 | 5000050 Tall Tom
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Can you please tell me the reason why the Republican Majority House of Representatives voted to FUND OBAMACARE last October since you claim that there is a difference between the parties.

 

MsCreant was waiting for you to get back with me on that topic on another thread.

 

She knows better now. You leave a reputation behind you.

 

Do you understand that when you are engaged in debate that this is Fight Club and you have to fight when you are called out.

 

Everybody must fight. That is the rules.

 

Other than that...if you are that unaware of the rules...you are just a troll.

 

I do not even junk your posts as I ignore most of them.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:44 | 5000341 Colonel Klink
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I don't think you're replying to me Tall Tom but I never said anything about there being a difference between parties.  I've always said they're two heads of the same snake.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:59 | 5000426 NuckingFuts
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No Klink the Rev has often posted that there is a difference. I asked him why he spends so much time here if we are all morons..... His reply: (crickets) .....

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:21 | 4999479 90's Child
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Lol and the thousands of Jews celebrating the bombing of the Gaza are any better.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:24 | 4999493 RevRex
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Where is this happeneing?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:29 | 4999507 90's Child
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing

You need to educate yourself more.

Maybe Hitler was on to something considering that's the kinda of people Jews are. Who celebrates the death of innocent people?

Fuck Israel. To send tanks and bombs knowing Hamas is using innocent people as shields is just as fucked upped as what Hamas is doing if not worse cause Israel knows they are but don't care. That's is considered a war crime.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:43 | 4999628 thismarketisrigged
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hey u fucking jackass, the reason israel sends tanks in and troops is so they can try and pinpoint hamas terrorrists and eliminate them, rather than drop bombs and kill innocent civilians.

 

are u actually blaming israel for attacking hamas because they know hamas uses innocent civlians as shields?

 

wow, what a brilliant guy u r, so what should israel do, just sit back and let hamas keep attacking, but since they use innocent civilians not be able to defend themselves back?

 

israel gives warning to civilians to leave those areas before they take them out, its the cowards in hamas who keep the civilians in harms way, because they do not give a fuck about there own people, innocent civilians dying in gaza = victory for hamas because it makes israel look bad.

 

the leader of hamas is also a fucking coward, hiding in qatar living a luxurious life while he gives orders knowing that israel will retaliate and civilians will most likely die in the process, because why the fuck does he care if his people in gaza die, they r pigs.

 

apparently, u r no better than these fucks.

 

now i cant wait for all the haters to downarrow me, im setting the over under at 29 and a half downarrows and ill take the over easily.

 

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:53 | 4999694 DaveyJones
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try cussing more, it will help your argument

and this guy disagrees, ...but he's only an IDF general's son, I'm sure you have more expertise and objectivity:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXAm-OylQQ 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:01 | 4999752 john39
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powerful. imagine the courage it took for him to come out openly and speak the truth.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:03 | 4999771 thismarketisrigged
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really, how about this video from the founder of hamas son

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwIxuODeh3s

 

i guess will ignore this video though, yet never here u criticizing hamas

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:56 | 4999828 DaveyJones
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like many arabs, I criticize Hamas but I don't live in the Gaza Strip nor do you. You clearly ignore history and human nature. Push people into a corner and this is what you produce. You also fail to mention that many many Israelis blame their government for this new reality. It kind of reminds me of, oh yes, the "war on terror," an imperialist propganda venture that is rapidly backfiring.  

So let's clarify our debate, do you deny the facts laid out by the general's son?

Do you claim the US media objectively informs its citiens on this subject?

Do you deny the history and ever expanding imperialism in this very condensed area of land?

Do you deny that palestinians LEGALLY are second class citizens.

Do you deny the vidoe's claim that in 2008, some of the bombings were SPECIFICALLY timed when the palestinian children were getting out of school? Is this not the same attrocity you lay on Hamas

Do you deny that IDF knows every square inch and every aspect of plastinian dialy life, has one of the most sophisticated armies in the world and can chose its form of battle at every level?

Did you see one of the documentaries (nominated for the academy award) interviewing retired IDF gneerals who all admit this current course is hopeless and non productive

The bottom line is if HAMAS is a criminal, then the IDF is nothing more than an aider and abettor. This is the oldest trick in the book to create conflict and justify imperial taking. It is the story of mankind and these people and this geography are no exception.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:10 | 5000184 Quus Ant
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Don't waste your time on him.  He's an admitted antiSemite.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:12 | 5000191 thismarketisrigged
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which would make many ppl on this site proud

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:19 | 5000217 Quus Ant
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Tell me more about the "Jew Bankers".  I''ll include it in my email to the ADL.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:23 | 5000238 RichardP
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DJ - you say you are Arab.  Have you read the Hamas Charter (link below)?  If yes, then your staments are simply propaganda.  If no, then your statements are simply uninformed.  Given the Hamas Charter (part of which is reproduced below), how should Israel (the Zionists) behave if they wish to not become the conquered?  You cannot be a serious participant in discussions such as this if the only answer you have come up with is surrender.  If surrender is not a consideration for the Zionists and those who support them, how should Israel behave in the face of this stated reason for the existance of Hamas?  From the Hamas Charter:

http://www.palestine-studies.org/files/pdf/jps/1734.pdf

From the Introduction:

This is the charter of Harakat al-Muqawama al-Islamiyya (Hamas)  [the Islamic Resistance Movement] manifesting its form, unveiling its identity, stating its position, clarifying its expectations, discussing its hopes, and calling for aid, support, and members.

Our battle with the Jews (not the Zionists; the Jews. rhp) is long and dangerous, requiring all dedicated efforts. It is a phase which must be followed by succeeding phases, a battalion which must be supported by battalion after battalion of the divided Arab and Islamic world until the enemy is overcome, and the victory of Allah descend

From Article 7:

Muslims throughout the world adopt the system of the Islamic
Resistance  Movement; they work towards aiding it, accepting its stands, and amplifying its Jihad. ... the Islamic Resistance Movement looks forward to fulfill the promise of Allah no matter how long it takes because the Prophet of Allah (saas) says: "The Last Hour would not come until the Muslims fight against the Jews (not the Zionists; the Jews. rhp) and the Muslims would kill them ..."

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:39 | 5000283 DaveyJones
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I'm not Arab, I said I criticize Hamas but it is a very predictable byproduct of this imperialsim. Despite any aspirations you've outlined, none of your post contradicts anything said by the IDF generals son does it? So what is the point? Extremism begets Extremism? Imperialism gets a pushback? Like many, you confuse unlawful behavior (by the IDF) with necessity. You ignore the chain of causation and the utter predictability of the current situation. That makes the IDF and its government at the very least, equally responsible for the current situation. When you look hard at the history however, the land grabs, the second class citizens, and (literally) the overkill, the math ratios change dramatically. But don't listen to me, listen to the large amount of honest and moral Israelis who say the same.       

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:02 | 4999761 90's Child
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So using your same logic. Because of 'WMD in Iraq' being our pretext to 'invade' we should have just bombed them whether nukes or hydrogen and any civilians that are killed are just liabilities then?

Majority of Iraqis died as civilians. If that can be prevented then it should be.

Shooting whatever moves and justifying it cause you told them to leave THEIR homes is stupid as fuck.

Judging by your lack of grammar and punctuation I'll assume you're just a muppet and ignorant to facts.

Try educating yourself, look at things objectively instead of having a bias opinion that all Jews are victims.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:08 | 4999811 thismarketisrigged
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of course civilian deaths should try and be prevented at all costs, and israel trys to do so, but in war, just like in iraq where many many thousand civilians died, not because the american army is a bunch of mass murderers, but civilian deaths happen.

 

u dont fucking warn someone to flee if ur main objective is too kill them.

 

speaking of being  objective, where is ur objectivity when it comes to hamas using there civilians as shields? where is ur criticisim of that?  what kind of people use there own civilians as human shields in war?

 

yet im the one who is not being objective, alright

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:15 | 4999845 90's Child
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Hamas using civilians is obvious. That's a matter of it's own.

The fact that Israel knows this and yet they bomb them is the topic here. That's considered war crimes. When you attack a country and the main casualties are civilians then maybe it's time to rethink your strategy.

The fact that the Israeli's cheer on the bombing of civilians just justifies the stigma about them.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:41 | 4999973 thismarketisrigged
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so let me ask u this.

 

what do u suggest israel does to defend themselves from hamas?

 

the reason i stated, and i am pretty sure u wont dispute it, that hamas uses children and innocent civilians as shields is because they know that by doing so, there is a very good chance of death to those innocent civilians, and when the world sees the news, they here innocent civilians are being killed.

 

hamas is doing everything in there power to ensure civilians are in harms way, israel could have easily not sent any troops into gaza which is a gurantee of many deaths by doing so as we have seen, and just decided to drop bombs all over non stop to ensure all gazans are killed if that is what they wanted. they have the power to do so,

 

instead, they went in on the ground, which is the best way to root out the terrorists with trying to minamize civilian casualaties. will civilians die ? unfortuantely, most likely, its inevitable  if they r using them as shields.

 

no one is saying israel or america or any country is perfect by any means, but only pigs would use babies and other innocent civilians to shield themselves.

 

also, its amazing how much criticism israel gets for killing ;;civilians'' in the gaza strip , yet hamas fucking murders there own people and no one seems to care.

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:49 | 5000074 90's Child
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You're right I don't have a solution to their problem.

But what Israel is doing is shooting hostages in attempts to kill the perpetrator.

That's the debate here.

We aren't defended Hamas. We are putting the spot light on Israel.

They are the bigger, more advanced person here.

Hamas rocket fire is nothing compared to Israel. View that objectively and it's clear to see who the victim is.

It's not Hamas or Israel. It's the civilians that are now dead or refuges here.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:04 | 5000155 thismarketisrigged
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the difference between hamas and israel though is israels attacks are at least targeted, they r trying there best to only target hamas terrorists, where as hamas is just lobbing rockets whether its from civilians homes, hospitals, mosques, etc with no specific target other than to kill as many israeli citizens as possible.

 

fortunately, many of these israeli civilians are unharmed due to the iron dome and horribe accuracy by hamas, not due to the lack of effort by hamas.

 

also, israeli citizens are constantly running to bomb shelters with 15 seconds notice at tops before a rocket hits.

 

the lack of many israeli casualties on the civilian side is not due to hamas lack of effort.

 

also, i am not saying no civilians r being killed in gaza, but keep in mind, there is a very good chance that many of these so called ''civilians'' being killed in gaza are hamas operatives and not innocent civilians. not saying all, but at the same time, i find it extremly hard to believe an army as strong as the idf is missing this often on there targets and only killing civilians.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:02 | 5000149 DaveyJones
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Here's a crazy idea, and it comes from the editor of Haaretz, an Isaraeli journalist, why don't they negotiate their demands? Why doesn't the international community ignore the US bullies and help these negotiations along? Why isn't there a two state solution with a rational land divide with both sides extremists (and both sides have many extremists) held in check by the majority 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:41 | 5000021 Colonel Klink
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Need to change your username to thispostisrigged

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:45 | 5000037 thismarketisrigged
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of course its rigged, anything that seems to criticize hamas in anyway shape or form is not true.

 

yet, i am sure u will tell me how u do not really hate jews, u just hate israel.

 

ya that is what they all say, i am sure ur critcisim over the past week plus of israel along with many others is because u guys r just so sympathetic towards the ppl in gaza, the sympathetic ppl zerohedgers r known to be, nothing to do with ur hatred towards jews.

 

its ok though, ur in the majority, id say at least 90 percent of the world population hates jews as well.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:24 | 5000236 DaveyJones
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you just revealed your hand and an old tired, ever failing trick, that any criticism of the IDF and its government is racism. You also flip it and say that when someone argues that imperial circumstances create desperate people they approve terrorism.  For some reason, you are unable to evaluate human nature and history objectively

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:46 | 5000353 Colonel Klink
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I've NEVER yet said Hamas has been right in their actions.

Words in other's mouths you put. -Yoda

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:34 | 5001050 thismarketisrigged
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just because you havent said it literally, u r implying that by never once laying blame on them.

 

all the criticism is towards israel, so while u may have not said ''hamas has been right in their actions'' you r implying that they r justified by no criticisisim whatsoever towards them

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:22 | 5000241 indio007
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I have not seen a single shred of evidence Hamas uses "human shields" This canard is really getting old. it was getting old back in the bad 'ol days of Saddam and Gulf Old Grab 1

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:14 | 4999841 hot sauce technician
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You need to work on your critical thinking a bit. They were cheering Gaza getting bombed because Hamas was getting a taste of their own medicine and not simply because Gaza was getting bombed. For al they care Gaza can be another Singapore. The cheerers care ultimately about living in peace and not getting fired upon simply because they're Jewish as opposed to just seeing Arab corpses. In contrast to Hamas who view killing Jews as a primary objective. Capisci? 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:24 | 4999891 90's Child
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Your logic is skewed. The world is huge, but with your narrow mindset it must be linear.

Hamas is a group. Not a majority, that doesn't justify bombing them.

Hamas doesn't get military support from the worlds MIC.

This is Indians vs Military

Read the reports. How many people have died from Hamas rockets being fired compared to Israel's advanced weaponry.

Seriously and you Zionist can justify that?

Gimme a fuckin break. Your logic is so skewed it's almost trivial to debate the matter. Fact and logic mean nothing here.

Every Zionist dick riding commenting hasn't validated the justifications to use excessive focus to kill civilians. Till then continue to choke on some dick.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:48 | 5001883 freak of nature
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"Maybe Hitler was on to something considering that's the kinda of people Jews are. Who celebrates the death of innocent people?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:22 | 4999483 tony wilson
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ex revrex

 

i love this movie even if gorge cloney is not in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-tUV0cnyv8

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:51 | 4999682 svayambhu108
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Some of the Jewish people are smart people, but sometimes smart people fuck-up...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:45 | 4999634 TrumpXVI
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That's Adolf, with an "f".

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:00 | 4999748 SILVERGEDDON
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Rev Rex - playing daily at ythe Vomitorium, for your bulemic enjoyment. 

Scarf it up, barf it out.

Best daily cleanse, ever.

Go chase some parked cars, Rexie.  

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:26 | 5001600 Monty Burns
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Awkward facts being brought forward?  Dust down Adolf and give him another airing.  End of discussion.  How long more can they get away with this wheeze?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:17 | 4999445 pods
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Basically the Persian equivalent of "regime change" speech.

Oh Hannity is in the vinegar strokes with this one!  A quick AIPAC shocker for him and it is time to hit the showers.

pods

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:24 | 4999494 Winston Churchill
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MOSSAD translators again ?

Let me find an actual recording , and see if I can remember enough Farsi to

translate for myself.I don't even trust google translate anymore.

Want to bet  regima(regime) is in the original version ,and left out again, in this release ?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:56 | 4999714 SILVERGEDDON
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Divide and Conquer

Dividem Conquero

Dividius Conqueriuos Maximus Rex.

Don't matter what language, even if it is a fake language, end result is the same.

Regular folks get fucked, and the galactic overlords get the gold.

It is long due that the wheels fall off of this nasty cart full of TPTB.  

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:12 | 4999411 JLee2027
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Siamak Moreh Sedgh, Iran's Only Jewish MP, Compares Israel To Nazis On Gaza Airstrikes

http://www.ibtimes.com/siamak-moreh-sedgh-irans-only-jewish-mp-compares-...

 

He's a JINO.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:18 | 4999451 pods
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Thank you, Mr. Official spokesman for the Jews.

pods

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:27 | 4999509 JLee2027
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I'm not Jewish, but I did date a Jewish girl once. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:33 | 4999553 NoDebt
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Once.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:34 | 4999557 fightthepower
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How was she?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:38 | 4999584 JLee2027
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Normal

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:47 | 4999653 Titus
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Hmm, it's my understanding and experience that they prefer sodomy.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:23 | 4999883 Titus
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One in the front, one in the back

Spank, choke

Twist the nipples of the rack

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:53 | 5000087 Tall Tom
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Frank Zappa says it best with "Jewish Princess"

 

She can swallow my pride...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYLfCGniYxs

 

(edit...Sorry Uncle Remus...I did not catch your post.)

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:06 | 5000171 Titus
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Great song!

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:51 | 5000381 JLee2027
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Hmm, it's my understanding and experience that they prefer sodomy.

Not mine.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:58 | 4999731 Uncle Remus
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Her name wasn't Lorena was it?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:46 | 4999547 rwe2late
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Jews are divided about the expansionist ambitions of Israeli Zionists,

just as non-Jews are divided about the expansionist ambitions of US militarists.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:54 | 4999703 NOTaREALmerican
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Yeah,  great point.  

All the people who are trying to say:  "I'm not anti Jewish, I'm anti-Zionist" are about as successful as those TERRORISTS sympathizers who didn't believe Bush and the Weapons of Mass Delusion story.

Yer either wid us, eer again us.   Works every-time,  everywhere. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:28 | 5000271 ThankYouSatan
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Naw, i'm anti jewish

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:17 | 4999412 Thought Processor
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Sure, why not add one more log on the fire.

 

The unrest all over the world is now starting to look like that fight in Anckorman.  Everyone wants in on it.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:45 | 4999612 JohninMK
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That MP probably has much more of a right to live where he is than the Jews in Israel. Unfortunately for those Jews modern DNA analysis is starting to show their true origins and it isn't Palastine, it is starting to look as if Iran has a valid point and they should be sharing it, not stealing it. Ironically, given some comments here on ZH, their homeland should probably be south west Ukraine or even Iran!

Here is part of an article about an Israeli researcher.

The debate touches upon such sensitive issues as whether the Jewish people is a race or a religion, and whether Jews or Palestinians are descended from the original inhabitants of what is now the State of Israel.

Ostrer’s theory is sometimes marshaled to lend the authority of science to the Zionist narrative, which views the migration of modern-day Jews to what is now Israel, and their rule over that land, as a simple act of repossession by the descendants of the land’s original residents. Ostrer declined to be interviewed for this story. But in his writings, Ostrer points out the dangers of such reductionism; some of the same genetic markers common among Jews, he finds, can be found in Palestinians, as well.

By using sophisticated molecular tools, Feldman, Ostrer and most other scientists in the field have found that Jews are genetically homogeneous. No matter where they live, these scientists say, Jews are genetically more similar to each other than to their non-Jewish neighbors, and they have a shared Middle Eastern ancestry.

The geneticists’ research backs up what is known as the Rhineland Hypothesis. According to the hypothesis, Ashkenazi Jews descended from Jews who fled Palestine after the Muslim conquest in the seventh century and settled in Southern Europe. In the late Middle Ages they moved into eastern Europe from Germany, or the Rhineland.

“Nonsense,” said Elhaik, a 33-year-old Israeli Jew from Beersheba who earned a doctorate in molecular evolution from the University of Houston. The son of an Italian man and Iranian woman who met in Israel, Elhaik, a dark-haired, compact man, sat down recently for an interview in his bare, narrow cubicle of an office at Hopkins, where he’s worked for four years.

In “The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses,” published in December in the online journal Genome Biology and Evolution, Elhaik says he has proved that Ashkenazi Jews’ roots lie in the Caucasus — a region at the border of Europe and Asia that lies between the Black and Caspian seas — not in the Middle East. They are descendants, he argues, of the Khazars, a Turkic people who lived in one of the largest medieval states in Eurasia and then migrated to Eastern Europe in the 12th and 13th centuries. Ashkenazi genes, Elhaik added, are far more heterogeneous than Ostrer and other proponents of the Rhineland Hypothesis believe. Elhaik did find a Middle Eastern genetic marker in DNA from Jews, but, he says, it could be from Iran, not ancient Judea.

Elhaik writes that the Khazars converted to Judaism in the eighth century, although many historians believe that only royalty and some members of the aristocracy converted. But widespread conversion by the Khazars is the only way to explain the ballooning of the European Jewish population to 8 million at the beginning of the 20th century from its tiny base in the Middle Ages, Elhaik says.

Elhaik bases his conclusion on an analysis of genetic data published by a team of researchers led by Doron Behar, a population geneticist and senior physician at Israel’s Rambam Medical Center, in Haifa. Using the same data, Behar’s team published in 2010 a paper concluding that most contemporary Jews around the world and some non-Jewish populations from the Levant, or Eastern Mediterranean, are closely related.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/175912/jews-a-race-genetic-theory-comes-under-fierce-atta/?p=all#ixzz38Pd2j7Co
Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:31 | 4999933 Frostfan1
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I guess I'll sell my house and move back to Europe since I'm on Lenape land

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:52 | 4999690 world_debt_slave
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Jews and Zionists are not the same.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:22 | 5000237 rwe2late
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There are non-Jewish politicians who openly say they are "Zionists",

and non-Jewish politicians who never say they are Zionists, but repeatedly pronounce they are unshakeable, unwavering supporters of the Zionist cause.

 Joe Biden has previously declared himself to be a Zionist. Calling Israel "the single greatest strength America has in the Middle East,"
During the interview conducted by the Jewish 'Shalom TV' Biden said, "I am a Zionist. You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist." He also revealed that his son is married to a Jewish woman ...
http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?189598-Vice-President-Joe-Bide...

David Cameron says he is a Zionist
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/75498-tory-leader-dave-cameron-calls-...

Obama doesn't outright call himself a Zionist, but he pledges unlimited US support to the continued existence of Israel as a Jewish state.(to hell with any US separation of church and state).

and Obama is quoted "we will always reject the notion that Zionism is racism."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/73588.html#ixzz38PuC2nDf

 

Rand Paul also supports Israel as a Jewish state

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/rand-paul-israel-flip-flop

 

 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:27 | 4999902 Frostfan1
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Big freaking Uncle Tom/Moishe deal

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:10 | 4999400 JLee2027
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If there was any doubt 

 

Waiting for the Jew hater response now.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:18 | 4999452 RevRex
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They'll cower from formulating a cogent response, but they sure do have the "courage" to down arrow or call names!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:20 | 4999465 john39
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did you even bother to read his comments?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:04 | 4999782 SILVERGEDDON
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Yep, another down arrow and a hearty " You are a Fuck Tard ", Rev Rex. 

And, a pat on the head.

At least you can spell, even if you cannot think in a critical independent manner.

All that TPTB education, and only one redeeming feature to show for it.

You shoulda spent the education money on hookers and blow.

At least your world view would be more well rounded.  

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:56 | 5000113 Tall Tom
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If you can read this then I am NOT impressed.

 

Most people can read.

 

But do you comprehend what I wrote?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:25 | 4999473 strannick
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Hating Zionism makes you a ''Jew hater''?

''Say the whole word'' -Annie from Community

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:27 | 4999511 mastersnark
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Not supporting Israel makes you a "Jew hater."
"Hating Zionism" makes you a pedophile Nazi.

Try to keep up...

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