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Liberian Man Tested For Ebola In World's Fourth Most Populous City

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Yesterday, when reporting on the latest tragic development in the wost ever Ebola outbreak to sweep through west Africa, namely that the head doctor tasked with containing the virus had himself contracted it, we commented that the "only good news, if any, is that even as the epidemic which has raged for months, and now appears to be out of control, it has not spilled out of Africa into other continents yet." That may not be the case for much longer following an update earlier today by Reuters that a Liberian man in his 40s is being tested for the deadly Ebola virus in Nigeria's commercial capital of Lagos, a megacity of 21 million people, the Lagos State Health Ministry said on Thursday.

This would be the first recorded case of one of the world's deadliest diseases in Nigeria, Africa's biggest economy and most populous nation, with 170 million people and some of Africa's least adequate health infrastructure.


A Liberian man in his 40s is being tested for the deadly Ebola virus in Nigeria's commercial capital of Lagos, a mega-city of 21 million people, the Lagos State Health Ministry said on Thursday.


A spokesman for the World Health Organisation (WHO) in Geneva confirmed Nigeria had "one suspect case" and said samples had been sent to a WHO lab for testing.


"The Nigerian Ministry of Health has implemented control measures in the meantime," he told Reuters.

And the worst part: the man was at the airport when he was intercepted:

The special adviser on public health to the Lagos state government, Yewande Adeshina, told a news conference the man had collapsed on arrival at Lagos airport from Liberia on Sunday. He was rushed to hospital and put in an isolation ward, she said.


"The patient was admitted and detained on suspicion of possible EBV (Ebola virus) infection, while blood sample collection and testing was initiated," she said in her statement, adding that "results are pending."


Ben Neuman, a virologist and Ebola expert at Britain's University of Reading, said it was important to note that Ebola is one of a number of viruses that can cause hemorrhagic fever, and that others, including Lassa fever virus and Dengue virus, could turn out to be the diagnosis in this case.


"Some of these other, more common hemorrhagic fever viruses have already been the cause of false alarms in the ongoing west African Ebola outbreak," Neuman told Reuters in London.


"For now, it is important that we wait for the lab results on the patient in Lagos," he added. "Even if Ebola is confirmed, this will be a cause for concern, not panic. Ebola spreads slowly, and can be contained by quarantining suspected cases immediately in hospitals."

Soothing words aside, what is worse is that, if indeed confirmed that he has been infected, the scramble will now begin to find and quarantine any and all other people he may have been in contact with in recent weeks, a task which in a city of over 20 million - the world's fourth most populous city after Being and above Istanbul - will be like finding a rational thinker in the Princeton economics department.

And where things get really dicey is if any of those infected people were among the passangers who were at the Lagos airport at the time, and somehow managed to get on a plane in the last few days and departed for destinations unknown. At that point a watching of the 1995 Ebola thriller "Outbreak" may be in order.


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Thu, 07/24/2014 - 12:52 | 4998942 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ebola.  Sounds like a dance.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 12:53 | 4998946 svayambhu108
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A recordacao

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:11 | 4999825 Publicus
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Checkmate, humans.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:44 | 5000038 Mike in GA
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There are direct flights daily from Lagos to NYC.  It won't take long to experience hell in this country if ebola gets in. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:51 | 5000086 knukles
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You can't go to Tel-aviv because you might get shot.  They can come here from Lagos, because it's bio-warfare on the American public which necessitates martial law....  Plus to ban transportation between NYC and Lagos would be... um... uh... it would ah... be ah.... racist and uh....  then I'd get interrupted on my uh.... campaign circuit and er...

Why all the money raising?
Down-payment on the hose and a big ass muni portfolio to pay the mortgage.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:20 | 5000971 Buck Johnson
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I have a feelling it's going to get here also.



Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:17 | 5001311 Bad Attitude
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I'm waiting for Dear Leader to invite "refugees" fleeing Ebola into the US. Then he can disburse these "refugees" to various cities throughout the country. What could possibly go wrong?

Forward (over the cliff)!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:15 | 5001772 IndyPat
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Seems more fair and just....

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 12:53 | 4998949 Decolat
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Sounds like shits gettin real

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:02 | 4999019 90's Child
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I kinda hope it makes it way to more populated areas. Hopefully it makes it to america. We got 50m ~ 70m people unable to take care of themselfs and on food stamps. Let them go first. If me or my family die a martyr to the cause then so be it. At least I was aware and made an effort to prepare.

Stack on.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:06 | 4999043 CrazyCooter
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I don't think it will be very discriminatory ... probably not something for which you would want to rationally wish.

Now, on the other hand, if you presuppose you will live and want more oil for yourself, then I suppose I can simply disagree with you on principal rather than logic.



Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:14 | 4999083 sushi
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Wait until ISIS figures out that this is a very cheap way to dispose of infidels. No expense for C4 or timer mechanisms. All you need is someone who is willing to sneeze for the Caliphate.

With a 30 day incubation period and a few airplane flights this would make MH17 look like a holiday package.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:23 | 4999133 goldhedge
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I mentioend this a few days ago. Forget missiles.   EBOLA Bomber enters Israel.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:29 | 4999189 Winston Churchill
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Just trade some infected blankets with the natives.

Nothing new in this world it seems, we just rediscover old shit.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:38 | 4999233 Juno Rock
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Who will be the real "Omega Man"? Charleton Heston can't as he has passed on. 96% fatality rate. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:42 | 4999251 LFMayor
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"He does not bear... The Marks".

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:54 | 5000094 knukles
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This Shit is of Biblical Proportions and Everybody is Missing the Significance

Cloward-Piven, 4 Horsemen, End of Days ... it's all coming together as forecast.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:31 | 5001030 Paveway IV
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Relax, Knukles...

"Ebola in Town" has a drop beat of biblical proportions. 


"...But I like the monkey meat..."

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:52 | 4999301 Kirk2NCC1701
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WW Z scene comes to mind.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:47 | 5000747 Nick Jihad
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Or "12 Monkeys" ?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:39 | 5001088 Four chan
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dawn of the dead.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:52 | 4999300 Agent P
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"...30 day incubation period..."

This is what makes Ebola a real fucker to contain.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:17 | 5000212 NoDecaf
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makes me think of the graphics in the accelerated crash course on the exponential function.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:07 | 4999386 Browndog15
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Tom Clancy had this as a theme in one of his books.

He also foretold of the Iran and Iraq merger under one dark flag.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:28 | 5002281 Das Capitalist
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That book also started with a 9/11 style plane-as-missile attack on the US Capitol.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:05 | 5000439 tradingdaze
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They're more into beheadings and genital mutilation bullshit. Let's get them to D.C.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:34 | 5000595 Urban Redneck
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How's this for unintended irony

Obama's High-Risk Africa Summit

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:23 | 5004431 SilverRhino
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Pulled this off a science page so YMMV

The mean incubation period was estimated to be 12.7 days (standard deviation 4.31 days), indicating that about 4.1% of patients may have incubation periods longer than 21 days. 

This will probably make it to the US soon.  


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:24 | 4999136 90's Child
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I believe there are too many people in this world. Majority of them can't take care of themselves. Do I want them all to die off so I can have the worlds resources? No..

If history / nature taught us anything it's the strongest that survive.
I don't believe humans are the dominate species in the long run cause on a long enough time line......

Why cater to those who are unable or unwilling to take care of themselves.
This just creates what we have today is called socialism.

It shouldn't be everyone dies off. But I think we have this mind set that there will always be someone else to take care of us. (Government, Churches, charities)

Fuck that shit. It eventually brings everyone as a whole down.

The same people that disagree with my beliefs probably feel the boarder should be secure, that we should be sending them home and leaving the door shut.

If people are so concerned bout the Free Shit Army here then we might as well open the doors and let the government take care of everyone else who needs it off the back of hard working people who can take care of themselves.

Fuck this establishment, fuck the FSA, and fuck anyone else who believes that this is a charity. That's not how our country was founded.

You wanna survive? Work for it. Hunt, farm, do what you have to do.

Eventually the train will stop and all those ill prepared will be the first to go.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:42 | 4999258 Agent P
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As mentioned above, this disease does not discriminate.  Ebola is not the solution, and if anything would probably make non-FSA members more dependent on the government for containment efforts, etc.  If you want to fix the FSA problem, just stop giving out FS.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:46 | 4999276 90's Child
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Comment below explains very logically how ebola is discriminative.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:50 | 4999288 Agent P
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Because Japanese people don't sneeze? 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:46 | 4999270 CrazyCooter
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Your original post did not convey these ideas, it simplistically presented a "plague" as a solution to the free shit army/socialism/etc. Try to articulate better.

I don't disagree with most if what you just posted, although I tend to use the word fuck and shit a bit less and might quibble about the logical edges.

Once one realizes that the entirety of modern society requires copious amounts of energy which can only come from either fossil fuels or nuclear reactions, one begins to understand much of what we all see today will be gone in a hundred years or so. A plague simply might speed things along because it isn't discriminatory and once it gets going likely won't stop until it burns itself out.

Given the highly specialized nature of modern economies, from energy production, food production, services, manufacturing, transportation, etc, the quickest route to implosion will be the non-discriminatory death of the educated middle class that runs all that shit. One link goes down and the chain ain't worth a pinch of coon shit.

Chill out, have a beer, go for a walk, or find some good folks to surround yourself with. Ain't anything anyone can do to stop what is coming because it is coming one way or the other.



Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:52 | 5000792 Nick Jihad
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A man can reasonably object to compulsory charity, and still practice and promote voluntary charity.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:44 | 5001668 CaptainObvious
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+1000 sir.  Well said.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:25 | 4999154 Sudden Debt
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Ebola is very discriminatory!!

It is transfered by bodely fluids. Sweat, blood, urine, sperm and selayva.

And if you are clean, and avoid direct contact, you can't be infected.
For example, if it where to hit Japan, the virus wouldn't stand a chance.

And hygiene is very very important here. And what do you know... The more poor people are...

So if it ever where to hit europe or america, don't give people handshakes, and avoid contact at all.
And boil everything.
That's it. It's not airborne so if you avoid contact and keep clean, you're fine.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:59 | 4999337 Abitdodgie
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A little known fact that is if you have the blood group that did not originate on this planet then you can be okay with knowing that Ebola will more than likely not kill you (RH neg) along with the Black Death.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:47 | 4999659 Decolat
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A lady that picked me up hitchhiking recently was convinced I was an alien hybrid due to my RH neg blood. Along with my red hair/green eyes. Shit made me wonder.


History was written by the 'winners', mostly male-dominator, violent suppresor-type cultures devoted to the voice of heirarchy. Who knows now what really happened waaay back, when history was not a word yet, and myth was in vogue, and the world was innocent and new.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:25 | 4999893 Sudden Debt
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Stop watching discovery channel. All that ancient aliens crap... My god... My kids love it... And all i can think of is: crap for ratings.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:56 | 5000115 knukles
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Be careful....


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:05 | 4999371 DerAdler
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E-bola be raciss

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:14 | 4999093 HamRove
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There are people out there...sociopaths, eugenicists, evil F-ing people who just want the "useless eaters" to die. 

And it is those people who should be locked up, and separated from the rest of the population and includes 90's child.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:25 | 4999158 90's Child
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Lol. For my beliefs?

Haha can't arrest an idea.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:34 | 4999212 Jugdish787
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not yet...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:58 | 5000125 knukles
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Adolph and the Meat Tenderizers did a pretty damned good job of it...
I'd suggest reading the first 175 or so pages of The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
Only the names and dates have been changed

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:35 | 5000652 August
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>>>Hopefully it makes it to america.

90's Child is just thinking above his station in life.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:03 | 4999026 Chief KnocAHoma
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A mega city of 21 million - if 1/2 of 1 percent die you are talking about 105,000 souls. Pray now!

Surely Obama is on top of this one! Standing ready to cancel air service to the area, quarantine anyone arriving from the country... you know... govern.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:06 | 4999046 icanhasbailout
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I didn't move out to the country for nothing... this is just one of many very bad possible scenarios for city folk.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:27 | 4999162 Dr. Richard Head
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Working remotely from a home office had never looked so good. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:34 | 4999208 IndyPat
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Until a rat shits in your box of Rasin Bran and you pop like a zit a month later from Hantavirus. Look that one up. Almost more fun than Ebola. Its a "country folk" first anyway. Last thing I read about it was an infection in a national park out west in a rented park tent. Bad news.

Or when anthrax blows down wind from your neighbors farm. Thats always fun, too.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:44 | 4999264 LFMayor
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odd, but it doesn't seem like us poor unwashed inbreds  are dropping in droves from hantavirus just yet.  When's this super plague of yours going to descend on redneckistan?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:50 | 4999290 IndyPat
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Brother, I'm originally from West Virginia. Did a 12 yr tour in Kentuckistan, too. I paid my hillbilly dues and the check is in the fuckin mail.

Just pointing out infections aren't just citi-fied in origin.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:48 | 5000755 icanhasbailout
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engineered ones are

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:50 | 5001689 CaptainObvious
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Ebola and Hantavirus are both in the same viral family, known as viral hemorrhagic fevers.  They will both liquify your insides and make you bleed out of every orifice.  Be equally scared of both.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:27 | 4999163 Sudden Debt
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Don't freak out like that, it's not hollywood.
Africa just has a serious hygiene problem and people avoid doctors which makes it nearly impossible to contain the situation.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:54 | 4999323 Seeing Red
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You almost make it sound like an anti-science culture is a bad thing.  Next you'll be telling us that raping young (presumed) virgins to transfer AIDS/HIV to another person (and thereby cure oneself) doesn't work.  Please stop with this insanity.

EDIT:  Anyone else here wondering about my (so far single) junker's thought process?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:39 | 5000683 August
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You sound like one of those people who believe that one culture is somehow "better" than another.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 23:53 | 5001864 Seeing Red
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I admit to disliking rape and (forced) mutilation of children.  I'm not a fan of stupidity that spreads disease.  Cultures that propagate this crap deserve to be criticized -- regardless of their advantages (diversity IS an advantage IMHO).  Is it not OK for me to have these opinions?

p.s.  If I had said "irrational" or "profoundly ignorant" instead of "anti-science" would that have bothered you less?  I admit to picking the term to annoy the anti-science crowd here ... sorry if that skews things.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:07 | 4999056 IndyPat
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...Sounds like a dance...

It is a dance. All the cool kids are doing it. You convulse and spray blood out your ass, ears and eyeballs!

Makes a mosh pit look like a square dance.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:13 | 4999086 Bastiat
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Yep and our skin pores too.  Your insides basically liquify and leak out.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:15 | 4999068 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Ebola's no laughing matter. There exists no vaccine for it, it has a 90% mortality rate and it is highly contagious.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:16 | 4999107 IndyPat
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who's laughing?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:50 | 4999293 mastersnark
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But it is funny to see people freaking out over a non-airborne disease that only managed to kill 700 people out of a population of over a billion. Flu killed that many by lunch today... 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 07:58 | 5002739 Urban Redneck
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Flu has a lower mortality rate, and there are both big pharma drugs and old school medicines which can both treat and prevent flu.

This was a government employee (Ministry of Finance/Banksters - for the conspiracy nutters) getting on a plane and delivering ebola to the 4th largest city in the world. The carrier convinced his sister to go to the hospital three weeks ago back in Liberia, and collapsed at the airport upon arrival in Lagos (a short haul flight), ergo- 1) he probably didn't know he was infected, 2) he didn't exhibit enough symptoms at passport control in Monrovia to alert authorities, and 3) the transition from incubation to the onset of debilitating symptoms can be terrifyingly fast.

There are multiple, unrelated and geographically diverse instances of trained doctors and nurses coming down with ebola.

The notion that a 3-week maximum incubation period can prevent this disease spreading is insane once you get out of the most remote corners of the jungle. It means we won't know for up to a month from now- whether the virus has pulled a Snake Plissken and escaped from Lagos... from where it could jump directly to just about any major city in the world, which would soon by followed by the local sheeple begging for a fascist clampdown from governments only too happy to oblige...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:48 | 4999668 q99x2
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You do the Holy Eboly and you shake yourself apart.

That's what its all about.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 12:54 | 4998953 Kirk2NCC1701
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Bullish for Thermal Cameras at airports.  Buy FLIR stock?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 12:54 | 4998960 maskone909
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first hint of that shit on the usa mainland and i am outta here

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 12:57 | 4998983 NOTaREALmerican
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If it's here, where wouldn't it be?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 12:59 | 4998997 El Vaquero
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And what country would let you in?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:08 | 4999047 maskone909
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i will go to alaska

disease transmision is decreased markedly in frozen climates

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:09 | 4999065 NOTaREALmerican
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Don't forget to avoid the areas infested with OldFarts on cruises.  

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:20 | 4999122 OldPhart
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I don't do cruises.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:19 | 4999111 IndyPat
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I'd also point out that Alaska has mosquitos the size (and sucking effeciency) of Dyson Vacuums.

Take some Deepwoods Off with you and cross your fingers.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:51 | 4999296 pods
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Rumor has it that you cannot bring down Alaska Skeeters with simple game loads. Need something extra, say BBx2s duplex loads.

Probably thick with black flies up there too.  They are like giant gnats but have X-acto blades for a mouth.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:59 | 5000842 Nick Jihad
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Anyone see the pictures of the mayfly swarm currrently happening in Wisconsin?  Bugs fucking everywhere - literally!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:53 | 5001704 CaptainObvious
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Deepwoods Off doesn't work on Alaskan mosquitos.  The weapons of choice against those fuckers are tennis rackets, .50 bullets, small cannonballs, and nuclear warheads.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 07:40 | 5002755 overmedicatedun...
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alaskan or north west territory mosquitos you say? find people who attract the little suckers more than you and go with them in the deep woods- spent 2 weeks south of white horse with 2 such targets, I got sick of hearing why don't these damn mosquitos bother you?? my answer was " I guess they only attack lower life forms"..don't think g-od has a sense of humor? for our PM aficionado's we were prospecting and found silver, gold, copper , lead-nice area were bears far outnumber people- but too far from infrastructure to be profitable, at least then.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 12:59 | 4998994 El Vaquero
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To where, exactly? 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:00 | 4999003 HedgeHammer
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And just where do you think you would go that is any better? FFS if and when this does spread there won't be much one can do aside the self contained hole in the ground. I say bullish for 3M they make good particulate masks.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 12:54 | 4998964 Bam_Man
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Ewww. It looks like Mickey Mouse's sperm.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 12:56 | 4998974 Quinvarius
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Ebola fun fact:  Like AIDs, Ebola is a disease that is sexually transmitted and comes from monkeys.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 12:58 | 4998990 svayambhu108
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Mind your own monkey business

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:04 | 4999030 Dr. Richard Head
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Tongue punch the monkey box.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:28 | 4999914 stormsailor
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fucker,  now i gotta clean my keyboard and screen.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:03 | 4999022 Silky Johnson
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Whewww! Last week I fucked a chimp, but since it's an ape and not a monkey I guess I'm safe.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:37 | 4999227 One And Only
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Was her name Michelle Obama?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:42 | 4999257 icanhasbailout
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Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:28 | 4999532 DerAdler
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That was no wookie, that was my wife!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:11 | 4999075 Things that go bump
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Actually, the disease vector seems to be bats. Like AIDS, Ebola is transmitted through bodily fluids. Unlike AIDS it has a short incubation period and a short course terminating in dramatic and catastrophic hemorrage from every oriface, generously spewng contamination everywhere. These really nasty bugs are suddenly popping up all over the place, Ebola, plague, MERS. We are overdue for a culling of the herd. If we can't control our numbers, nature will do it for us.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:03 | 4999347 Kirk2NCC1701
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Alternatively... If we can't control our numbers, TPTB will do it for us: Ft. Detrick Flu (FD14*).  A cocktail of stuff.

* Ft Detrick 2014

RE housing starts might be tumbling, but Elysium housing will boom.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:17 | 4999757 Things that go bump
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Better nature than them. Nature at least is indescriminate and we have as good a chance of surviving as Bill Gates, or conversely, he has the same risk as everybody else. In 1345, Joanna, the daughter of Edward III of England was betrothed to Peter of Castile and in the summer of 1348 the 14-year-old Joanna crossed the English Channel on the first leg of her journey to her wedding. No expense was spared and it is said that her trousseau alone occupied one ship. The plague had not yet reached England, but it had gotten a grip on Bordeaux and she died of the plague in a small village outside of Bordeaux on September 1.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:17 | 4999109 Bastiat
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It's spread by contact with any bodily fluid from an infected person; so, yeah, sex would do it but that is not the common method of transmission.  Many of the past outbreaks were spread in Africa as a result of traditional family washing/handling of relatives corpses.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:46 | 4999277 LFMayor
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"Washing"   Yeah, a lot of washing goes on inside them there cow shit huts.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:24 | 4999497 IndyPat
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Hey, weren't you the dildo blowing me crap about infections verses city/country, up thread?

Note that these cow shit huts are in the fucking boonies. Also note that the reason you get fever blisters is because some hayseed decided to fuck a sheep. That...didn't happen in Africa.

 It happened in SCOTLAND, as any Brit will gladly tell you...

Also, here is another fun excercise. The next state fair or trip you take to the truck stop or rest area....note the number of folks that wash up after using the thunder bucket or taking a piss. Then come back and tell me about the hygene of the average jungle bunny in Sierra Leon.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:12 | 5000177 LFMayor
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why don't you go get fucked.  I find it odd that cholera left these here flyover parts approx 1870 or so.  People had a hell of a lot more livestock back then than now, to boot, not to mention privies instead of indoor bathrooms.  Hell, those didn't make it under the main roof here in some cases until damn near the 1950's.  And what outbreaks have we had since then, aside from section 8 cheese eatin savages and their holier than thou social webz champions?

My point is that fucking unwashed savages begat flies, communicable diseases and loads more pot-bellied little unwashed savages with flies on their weeping eyes and communicable diseases  as opposed to us inbred cousin pumpin banjo strummers.  Math don't fuckin lie, son.

And if your dick was long enough that you could take a leak without pissing on your dainty little soft fingers you might understand a little better why not every man rushes breathlessly to wash after taking a leak all the time.  Or that you get more germs from the fucking drippings on the soap dispenser, the sink knobs and the door handle than from your pussy-deprived little mosticcioli, you dirty little boy.  Your fucking Dr. Spock reading, straw haired birkenstock bra burning helicopter mother that Insisted you and your friends call her by her first name probably taught you to dab the end of it with a twice folded kleenex, too.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:41 | 5000317 IndyPat
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With that response, the prosecution rests.

Mental Giant. When you change your undies next week, remember....yellow in the front, brown in the back. And tell your sister/wife I said "howdy" and your son that I'm deeply sorry.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:47 | 5000746 August
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>>>not every man rushes breathlessly to wash after taking a leak all the time.

It's a little-known fact, but that is the single best way to tell a Yale grad from a Harvard grad.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:30 | 4999924 stormsailor
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so avoid monkey cum?   short zoo stock

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 12:59 | 4998999 NOTaREALmerican
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Well,  I wouldn't worry until large numbers of people are dead in Africa first, but - statistically - we're kinda due for a big virus outbreak.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:15 | 4999098 El Vaquero
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Yup.  Most of these things fizzle out, but given enough potential tries, one is bound to take off.  It is a low probability that any one given potential outbreak will spread across the world, but it is a high probability that eventually one of them will beat the odds.  If you have an action that has a 1% chance of killing you every time you take it, chances are you won't get to take that action 1000 times. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:53 | 4999308 cougar_w
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I wouldn't worry at all until the virus can be shown to spread via casual contact, for example from a sneeze or cough.

At which point one could make a case for the end of the world as humans know it, yeah.

The problem with these things getting out of the country side and into the city is they start "learning" new tricks. Has to do with there being so many people with so many other health issues than in the countryside. In a city you have people (and animals) with other viral infections that do jump via casual contact, and if Ebola ever meets one of those and picks up the proteins and behaviors needed to act like -- for example --  bird flu, things get really interesting very quickly.

I don't put the odds very high, in fact. But it only takes one event and then it's pretty much just over.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:23 | 4999481 Urban Redneck
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I take you've never been to Lagos airport?

I wonder if anyone one on today's flights to Hotlanta or Houston has crossed paths with this poor guy in the past few days?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:28 | 4999526 cougar_w
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"Knowing" him wouldn't be a problem either. You would have had to spend the night with him having sex, or shared a hot tub (but not too hot, and no chlorine in the water) before you had anything to worry about. Ebola is not as big a deal as say smallpox or bird flu. It can't jump around easily. If it ever learns that trick then yeah the music stops.

The MSM won't tell you when it does learn anything useful, of course, because that casue a panic. But you'll be able to tell on your own from events. Read the first 30 or so panels of this graphic novel while thinking about the news recently:

Gave me the willies, let me tell you what.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 16:02 | 5000134 Urban Redneck
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That is freaky, but so is Lagos. Sex-wise, any individual has 20,000,000 potential partners crossing in the night on their way to who knows where. The three previous countries with Ebola cases are comparative backwaters that no one visits.

But the leap from sex to "airborne-like" is also deceptively small at such a crossroad, and doesn't actually require a mutation of the virus. Suppose an infected person goes to a little cafe, like in the comic and coughs or sneezes on their plate which is simply scraped, instead of washed, between customers, or "forks" their mouth and the fork isn't washed before the next customer uses it... it's probably a very small chance of crossing in the night, but it's also almost impossible to track, and poverty breeds these sorts of shortcuts.

Or for the truly scary crossing of paths... how many non-airborne diseases can one pick up in a comparatively clean public bathroom at NYC Grand Central Station in the pre-Rudy days? Perhaps I should have worded the original question, have you ever been inside a public restroom around Lagos airport?

There are only about 100 flights arriving and 100 flights departing every day to all corners of the globe. There's nothing to worry about as long as one can role the dice several thousand times without hitting that 1:1000 number.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:09 | 5000455 cougar_w
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All those observations are reasons to wash your hands.

But not to avoid an infection from something like ebola, in most cases. It's not enough that someone sneeze on a napkin and you wiped your hands on it. It sounds gross, but in the big picture you would have to rub the napkin into an open wound to get an infection, and even then it might not be enough because the skin is a potent defense.

The nasty bugs don't need an opening, and physical contact is not even an issue. Smallpox is completely airborn, you can get it from being within 6 feet of an infected person if they sneeze or cough. six feet. In crowded conditions that can be 20 0r 30 people, all of whom then become vectors ... for every sneeze. An infected person shopping in a crowded market can infect hundreds at a go. Smallpox runs like wild-fire through an urban population. That's why the M/IC was so keen to weaponize it.

Depending on the type smallpox wasn't even all that lethal (though hemorrhagic was as fatal as ebola and for the same reason). If ebola ever becomes airborn you can probably just plan on shuttering yourself in your house for a solid year. Forget a dust mask, you'd need to wear protective gear to go out. You won't want to be in a crowd for any reason for years after. I mean this would just be horrific. It would utterly change civilization as we know it. That is not an overstatement at all, it would just end everything.

But yeah sure, wash your hands. Can't hurt.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:22 | 5000546 Urban Redneck
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Good thing I haven't slept in 41 hours, or I might have difficulty getting to sleep tonight-

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:41 | 5001099 cougar_w
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Ah the hell, get some rest. We ZHers got yer back. If the world blows itself to rat shit while you were away we'll let you know what you have to do about that.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 06:21 | 5002610 Urban Redneck
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Thanks, but if the world blows itself to rat shit, or the ebola spreads further east... I am going to need all the extra production and creativity that comes from multitasking and sleep deprivation... to figure out a solution to the problem that would present me.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 07:06 | 5002698 Urban Redneck
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Another Ebola theory is about to become Ebola fact. The only outcome less likely than Patrick Sawyer having Ebola, is his death being due to some "other" hemorrhagic fever.

Monrovia — FrontPageAfrica has been informed that Mr. Patrick Sawyer, a WASH consultant at the Ministry of Finance, who had been quarantined since falling ill after arriving in the Nigerian state of Lagos for a conference last Sunday, has died.
FrontPageAfrica reported Thursday that Sawyer may have contracted the virus from his sister, who died at the Catholic Hospital some three weeks ago. Sawyer had told friends that the sister husband had fled the home after the wife died and that he(Patrick) convinced him to report to health authorities to check for signs of Ebola.

Apparently doctors and nurses (who are usually pretty good about washing their hands) aren't just coming down with Ebola in Sierra Leone, but now also Liberia...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:00 | 4999002 kchrisc
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Can we charter a plane from there to Israel?!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:05 | 4999364 Kirk2NCC1701
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They got walls and fences.  Just like in WWZ movie.

If anything, it's far more likely to break out in Gaza.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:00 | 4999014 jmcadg
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Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:04 | 4999031 dobermangang
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Don't worry.  Obamacare will save us all!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:04 | 4999032 swass
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I think this is a good time to buy medical supplies stocks.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:18 | 4999113 Bastiat
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Why? Medical supplies won't help.  Or are you thinking of large gauze sponges, linens and incinerators? 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:24 | 4999146 IndyPat
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What Med supplies? Nothing works. Wrap yourself in a giant tampon?

What you want to buy is a gasmask and biohazard suit.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:05 | 4999039 JenkinsLane
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If there was a significant outbreak of Ebola In Lagos the most likely European city to suffer an outbreak would

then be London, given the links between the two cities.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:26 | 4999161 COSMOS
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Does this mean Ill stop getting those Nigerian scam emails.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:39 | 4999241 IndyPat
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Those originate on Goldman mailservers.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:07 | 4999045 One And Only
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This is actually good news for biotech companies.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:08 | 4999057 dobermangang
Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:22 | 4999439 Kirk2NCC1701
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Moral:  Stop touching or screwing apes and monkeys, and the people who do.  Stay out of the Fruit-batcave.

No more "going native", when in Africa.  It's a very bad idea anyway.   Avoid the Congo, Sudan, and Zaire.  Avoid people who go there or have been there in the last 3 months.

As times goes by, I'm less and less in favor of this thing called "shaking hands".  Filthy habit.  Prefer the Japanese manners of bowing.

If this stuff ever comes to the US/Canada, I’m gonna start wearing glasses, gloves and a mask when in public.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 08:02 | 5002805 overmedicatedun...
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in the end it all comes down to "do gooders"..flying off to save this or that heck even off to save ol planet earth from one of it's own species, demanding equality and a" limited"

diversity (you know what i mean, abortion protestors are too diverse, as are those evil patriot taxed enough crowd)..them we can keep away from the children.

yep going across the globe, and demanding wide open "migration" or is it invasion? but little do most know how much pain and death and suffering "do gooders" are opening us up to..ebola anyone?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:00 | 5004044 sleepingbeauty
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This guy was employed by Liberia's Ministry of Finance. So the exact opposite of a do-gooder.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:10 | 4999071 Watching in Bal...
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China is doing a lot business in Africa these days I wonder if that is why they quarantined 30K of their own people yesterday. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:19 | 4999114 firstdivision
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Doubtful as no backwoods Chinaman does business in Africa, now a well connected Oligarc would.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:27 | 4999165 IndyPat
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that was just your run of the mill Chinese Palgue outbreak.

nothing to get excited about, i assure you.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:12 | 4999072 IndyPat
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Someone page 'Miffed...

I want the skinny on this and someone to run the numbers on this migrating from the Rio Grande...

I also want to know which fully enclosed Scott Pack and Mask to puchase.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:51 | 4999299 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Miffed was posting some interesting information concerning the difference betwwen a virus and bacteria last night on an older thread. She is such a likable person and appears to know her stuff. We are lucky she is around.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:54 | 4999314 Mongoose
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Consult NIOSH filter ratings. (look it up) Also, as important as the filter on the  respirator is the "fit" which requires "fit testing" (qualitative of quantitative but quantitative is better if the machine is available) while you are wearing the respirator, or supplied air mask, and doing various things from nothing but breathing to walking in place, talking, etc. In toxic or adverse biological environments leakage is a bitch and could ruin an otherwise survivable day.


Back to killin' snakes

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:04 | 4999358 IndyPat
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Got my "fit test" training in a tear gas tent. Really fun. Bet there are a few here that remember. Wonder if they still do that.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:15 | 4999095 seek
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In other news, Madagascar has closed its ports.

(gaming refernence for the uninformed.)

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:24 | 4999137 OldPhart
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-->so uninformed I have no clue what the gaming reference relates to.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 15:42 | 5000028 seek
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There's a simulation game called Pandemic II (here's the online version) that lets you control various features of a pathogen, with the goal being to wipe out the human population. In the game Madagascar is notorious for closing their ports at the first sign of any epidemic, preventing you from winning as it's an island nation and with closed ports, it can't be infected. It's so infuriating and so consistent it's turned into an online meme that pops up during epidemics.

It's actually a pretty eye-opening simulation since its at least partially grounded in reality as far as the models go.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 14:02 | 4999346 cougar_w
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In other news Iceland closes it's ports as a precaution, and halts all travel into the country, and as a result becomes the only remaining center of human civilization on the entire planet.

I started (quite at random) reading that yesterday, just when all the plague and ebola news starting showing up on ZH. Managed to totally freak myself completely out for the rest of the day. I'm still shaking.

Iceland. Yeah. I can see it from here ...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:15 | 4999096 ShrNfr
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Whe should send Michelle on vacation there.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:16 | 4999100 flyonmywall
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Should be bullish for Nigerian GDP.

And, if it makes out out of Murtala Muhammed International Airpot, bullish for the rest of the world's GDP.

Just imagine all that medical infrastructure spending, and government spending boosting GDP. Krugman would be highly pleased.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:20 | 4999117 firstdivision
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Wait til this shit becomes airbourne and has a longer incubation period.  The more people that contract it, the higher the likelyhood for it to mutate.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:23 | 4999118 trader1
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a dose of optimism!!!!


"Results are still pending. Presently the patient's condition is stable and he is in recovery," Adesina told journalists. "The diarrhoea and vomiting have stopped. He is still under isolation."

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:24 | 4999143 Metalredneck
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I gotta read Stephen King's "The Stand" again...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:33 | 4999204 CannoncockerUSMC
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Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:41 | 4999243 Cthonic
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Or The Hot Zone

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:49 | 4999278 Urban Roman
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Read The Hot Zone by Richard Preston.

Once you understand his story, it will make your hair stand on end.

Interesting factoid from the book: Ebola restonii was not named for a place in Africa.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:25 | 4999156 medium giraffe
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Has anyone told Mr Bloomberg about the large pro-Zion jewish population over there?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:27 | 4999168 Cannon Fodder
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"When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth" Revelation Chapter 6

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:28 | 4999175 gdiamond22
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Is there some kind of Apocolypse going on right now? Ebola virus, West Nile, the FUCKING PLAGUE? Planes are crashing and disapearing, Biblical wars in the Holy Land, Russian cold war, LeBron is back in Cleveland, A socialist running the USA?

Seriously, WTF is going on?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:33 | 4999205 Fuku Ben
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We'll get a better idea soon enough when the gates of hades open Sunday

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:40 | 4999238 medium giraffe
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I bought some doggy treats for Cerberus.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:20 | 5000975 edifice
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Hope you bought 3 bags--he has a few mouths to feed.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 13:33 | 4999207 Cannon Fodder
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Read the book of Revelation... you'll see how it all plays out....

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