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Spot The Lone Objector
Yesterday, Navi Pillay, the UN rights chief told an emergency session of the council on Wednesday that Israel's military actions in Gaza could amount to war crimes.
Shortly thereafter, the 47-member council voted (and adopted) a draft resolution titled "Ensuring respect for international law in the Occupied Palestinian Territory" to conduct an investigation whether Israel is indeed engaging in war crimes. Note: this was a vote just to conduct an investigation, nothing more nothing less, no military intervention, no aid, nothing: just an attempt to get some information aside from the constant propaganda barrage.
29 states voted in favour of the investigation and 17 abstained, including many EU states. 1 voted against. Guess which one.
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Why is it never war crimes when Hamas bombs neighborhoods?
Honestly, who gives a fuck what happens in the UN. It's a building full of child molesters and graft recipients.
Maybe the UN should worry about one or more of their facilities being used by Hamas to store and shoot rockets at Israel. When things spiral out of control in Israel and they are overrun it will then turn to the United States. When that happens it's game on.
Fuck all of you stupid Jew haters. Israel is in the right.
Let me be clear. The United States will see what Israel has to deal with every day. Right now the proxy fight against these Muslim extremist is being fought by Israel. One day it will be fought by all who stand for freedom and it may be on our own shores.
israel is the world capital of satanism. Israel created hamas. all of these wars and conflicts between and against Muslims are coldly and cruely calculated to remove israel's enemies, and create oceans of blood. when the karma comes home to roost, soon God willing, i wouldn't want to be anywhere near israhell.
Proof once again that this place has become overrun with crazy liberal loons. Every place in the world today that there is a war going on the Muslim faith is waging that war against whoever is there.
"Please do not look in their closet, you may find our skeletons."
The zionist sympathizers get more desperate after each one of these rapings. It's like a psychopath who knows what he's doing is wrong, but he just can't control his impulses to murder. That is Israel and it's supporters.
Pure comedy.
I am Chumbawamba.
how is accepting that every nation has a right to wage war zionist?
wage war? what war? slaughtering occupied people, who have very limited weapons, is not a "war".
when has war not been slaughter?
Way to move those goalposts.
war crimes aint what they used to be.
sad but true... crying about won't change it... probably nothing will... buy the ticket, take the ride
I will not lay down and accept mass murder. that may work for you, but that is your affair...
well you better get to work in your denial because it has been occurring since the start...
and many have opposed it from the start. no matter the outcome, I know where I prefer to stand.
this is your right...
i oppose unecessary killing to, but i don't deny its existence and my opposition is meaningless when it comes to the soveriegnty of other nations, let alone my own....
nonsensical.
John, you may enjoy this:
http://www.truthrevolt.org/israel-revolt/howard-stern-gives-impassioned-...
you have to laugh, right... howard stern, the beacon of truth and morality... hey, someone has to herd the cattle, right... or else Israel would be all on its own... and might actually have to behave... we can't have that.
Gaza was not occupied until they refused to stop lobbing bombs into Israeli neighborhoods. Did you forget they gave it to the Palestinians? Check the facts, stop reading the New York Slimes.
War crimes? Israel should just bulldoze Gaza into a parking lot so it's a lot easier to see any war crimes.
Next!
Caterpillar could use the Biz!
good point sarcastic or not
Numbers 33
51 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘When you cross the Jordan into Canaan, 52 drive out all the inhabitants of the land before you. Destroy all their carved images and their cast idols, and demolish all their high places. 53 Take possession of the land and settle in it, for I have given you the land to possess. 54 Distribute the land by lot, according to your clans. To a larger group give a larger inheritance, and to a smaller group a smaller one. Whatever falls to them by lot will be theirs. Distribute it according to your ancestral tribes.
55 “‘But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land, those you allow to remain will become barbs in your eyes and thorns in your sides. They will give you trouble in the land where you will live.
thus the worldview that 'might is right'... anyone who thinks that this filth came from God the creator is sadly confused.
has nothing to do with world views buddy... has to do with reality....
your perceived reality. thanks for letting me know how the world looks to a psychopath.
this reality has nothing do with me... but you are more than welcome to shoot the messenger... i won't play the victim though
You couldn't be a victim, you have too much blood on your hands.
Whether you agree or disagree, this is the promise and prediction they/we live with today.
Do you own a nailgun?
Now the old testament is reality....... Shit for brains- you need to stop, my sides are splitting!
55 “‘But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land, those you allow to remain will become barbs in your eyes and thorns in your sides. They will give you trouble in the land where you will live."
This IS reality, your splitting sides not withstanding.
gave it to the palestinians? OK, how about ALL of the stolen land... with no illegal and imoral blockade:
http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/05/10/the-shrinking-map-of-palestine/
EXACTLY!!! THANK YOU!!!
I was trying to explain this to my 10 year old a few days ago after he watched a video on youboob of a 5 year old Palestinian boy begging Israeli soldiers not to take his father away - the father had given his son a drink of water from a well, then the soldier came and arrested him for - stealing water I suppose - anyway my son could not comprehend this. I tried to explain that Israel was actually protecting the boy from becoming infected with the belief that basic human rights exist.
I wish I would have thought of explaining it as you did just there - Israel, in an act of un-imaginable benevolence "gave" the Gaza strip to the Palestinians - I imagine in much the same way we "gave" reservations to the native americans then to show them how dangerous the world had become we shot them whenever they wandered off their land and the mood struck us - we are actually protecting them as is the IDF protecting the people of Gaza with their kind artillery and missile fire. Finally someone else who understands that sometimes you have to be a self centred psychopath to do good in the world........
........ can't wait for Vlad to liberate us with a few Tsar's
So excellent..
Do you have an english language comprehension problem? Occupied means that you have people inside a territory all the time. That hasn't been true of Gaza for years. Gaza is not occupied. Gaza refuses to arrange for a peace and so it is under Israeli embargo, siege, military observation, pick a term or use them all but stop promoting the lie that it is occupied.
I don't care how poor your military capability is and how pathetic the military effectiveness is of your attacks. If you're regularly launching rockets across the border, you're the aggressor.
Perfectly stated.
Or, for the language impaired, "true dat, yo".
I notice you tools are slowly attempting to rename Palestine to Israel and Gaza.
If they are that helpless then why are they shooting fucking rockets at someone else?
Hey, if you accept that I have a right to violently invade your home and violate the sanctity of your family then WAR ON MOTHER FUCKER.
I am Chumbawamba.
you do and your right will be met with my .357... just to be clear
Good, as long as we agree that the victim has a right to self-defense.
I am Chumbawamba.
everyone has a right to self defense... agreed
but i have a hard time labelling anyone victims in war.... war is... well it is hell...
this doesn't mean that it does not make me sad or not empathic... it just means that i have to deal with nature of war and by raising inflammatory comments based off bias just makes the hell hotter
but i have a hard time labelling anyone victims in war.... war is... well it is hell...
you are one sick mutherfucker.
only people that are victims are the ones that choose to be
how trite. Did you hear that in a movie?
Guess the Jews chose to be gassed in WW2 then. You even read the stupid things you type?
yes i do read... and death comes to us all so why cry about it when it comes for you?... they followed their leaders unto the train.. that was their choice.... why do you think they went along so easily? not saying that i am not empathetic... but people make their own choices... they choose to be a victim or they choose to stand and fight... that is reality... it has always been this way and will always be this way. deluding yourself does not change this nor does crying, bitching, and moaning or calling your "oppressor's" murders...
Yes you are a moron.
read up on sherman skolnick sometime.... a jew that dared tell the real story of the holocaust...
I am not a denier but things were a lot more complicated and it wasn't just jews getting killed.... seventh day adventist got hit pretty hard too but no mention of that
Russians lost about 27 million people in WWII and Stalin probably killed about that many more afterwards. You got a long way to go to catch up in ethnicly cleansed bodycount department.
23 years in criminal law, criminal investigation, criminal trial and appeals tell me that your views are a dramatically ignorant simplification.
Next your going to say "with great power, comes great responsibility"
war is... well... war is hell..... oh, hell.... that's as far as my brain can go.
oh well.
anything after that is just trite emotion due to the soul's inablity to except reality and it's (the soul's) sin
keep the vapid shit flowing.
You don't write greeting cards, perchance?
LMFAO!
so how is what i am saying incorrect?
deflecting doesn't negate shit
you either have a soul, or you don't. if you don't, no one here can help you.
judging by the bias in these comments, any help from here would probably end up being just the opposite..
and to assume that zerohedge offers this kind of help is kinda frightening.... really frightening... usually the articles here produce more fear than tranquility, and rightfully so... this world is getting primed to blow up big and all the hatred and accusations of murder that i hear here only with accelerate this path towards more violence. The only solution you leave when accussing your enemies of murder is genocide or destruction of your enemies until submission... are you ready for this because you are all helping it along...
"because you are all helping it along"
so judging, policing, debating or stopping any wrongdoing is helping it along? Or is that just when a government calls that wrongdoing a "war?" Like the "war on terror?" The last time I checked, the "policing" and "judgment" involves force.
...."Good, as long as we agree that the victim has a right to self-defense."
EVERYONE has the right to Self-Defense, you do not have to be a "victim"....
You point a weapon at me and you will die, I do not have to wait for you to pull the trigger... You want to live in peace? Leave me the f*ck alone!
thank you... the only victims in this world are the one's that choose to be.... this is my complaint... i am not pro israel but i do not see hamas being victims....
Here you go asshole:
victims
choke on it you trite bastard.
so is this suppose to engage so emotional response that negates reason?
depends on what you think the Universe is all about. If you are OK with murder, that says something about you... imho, something not very complimentary.
i am not ok with murder... but war is not murder.... war is war... otherwise everyone one of our boys that has had to take a live in the field is nothing but a murderer.
i don't see any "war" here... and yes, war is murder on a grand scale. we finally agree on something.
you are splitting hairs... nations are constantly at war, even if they aren't openly admitting to it...
Naw, you're just in denial about supporting murder and then holding a double standard for everyone not in your club.
Emotions are only for humans. Carry on filth.
so the horrible article being running on the air about dogs feeling jealousy makes them human?
Only women and children can look at a dog and think, "He's just like a person."
John39 seems to be some kind of compassionate conservative maybe. He's not bother to comprehend what you've written.
It is clear you are not in favor of war or its horrible consequences. Don't waste too much time convincing John39 of your position. He seems to have an agenda.
Really? Are the two of you non-Native English speakers by chance? You seem to not understand what Natural Rights are.
Occupying someones home, pushing every emotional and physical button you can think of, punching them , killing their family when they punch back; Zionism. I for one would never want to be a gentile in a world ruled by Judaism; enslavement.
The people who want America's military involved everywhere in the world call people (like Ron Paul) who want America to mind her own business "isolationists".
But as the graphic shows, who is "isolating" whom? It seems to me that, as America's actions become more and more aggressive, she is isolating herself. Wouldn't it be preferable for America to impress the rest of the world with her products, offered in voluntary and mutually-beneficial trade? Isn't this how standards of living are raised?
The US only produces WMD's ,financial and otherwise, nowadays,or hadn't
you noticed, because it that Summer of Recovery time again.
More of the same moral equivalence arguments that simply will not hold up when the number one stated goal of the opposition is the elimination of Israel as a nation state.
I'm pretty sick of all the ziofags by now. I wish Israel would hurry up and cum already so all its apologists can slink back into the forums of The Forward and the National Review Online already.
Shit, Israel is raping Gaza! We need to send hasbara reinforcements to Zero Hedge!
Fuck all you war crimes apologists in your goat asses and go the fuck away already.
I am Chumbawamba.
it seems like most people are pretty sick of something anymore.. .sounds like a personal problem...
man i love your input until it comes to israel... regardless of how they got here they still are there for better or for worse... choosing sides rather than peace only makes it worse since both sides apparently don't want peace
I'm glad I find fans amongst even the ziofags.
But ask yourself this: if you otherwise like everything else I say except for when it comes to Israel, what does that say about Israel? And you?
I am Chumbawamba.
Chumbawamba, I never pegged you as prejudiced or capable of easily hating somebody who practices a reiligion.
Do you hate Islamist and Catholics, too?
Is there a religion you don't hate?
I remember when you assholes were telling us that being Jewish was genetic. Here you are saying it's a religious example. Now you are saying someone is prejudice while you kill unarmed kids on the beach indiscriminatly.
It's not religion that we do not like asshole, it's your rampant and in your face BS statism. You are the one that hates us for not obeying you.
You want a hanky?
Its not about Jew-hating or not - I dont have a problem with Jews. I have a problem with a foreign state (Israel) controlling the US and demanding our resources, skewing the media, and then claiming it is "in the right".
Ding, ding, ding, we have a WINNAR!
Half a billion for Isreali missiles while our vets die. Get up stand up, stand up for your right.
Half a billion for Isreali missiles while our vets die.
Right, because some Jewish guys are standing in front of a VA hospital and stealing everyone's paychecks.
Who pays you to post this shit?
they have every right to demand just as we have every right to refuse... stop being a dick because you don't like them fulfilling their rights and we not doing the same
What are you, 16? How about educating yourself before you jump into this fray. It's been going on since time immemorial and you seem clueless to any of it.
I am Chumbawamba.
well educated... just not choosing sides and sounding like a prick... not one of you biased fucks has asked me if i support israel--- i dont... you all are running of assumptions, which says something about your education
funny, i know a lot of "well educated" ignorant people. perhaps there is a connection?
funny how my comment was a response to another that you have no part in yet you feel the need to comment on someone else's phrase as if they were my own... pretty uneducated of you
welcome to fight club. whining? you know that means...
John39, you are some kind of clown.
If you think this bulletin board is a fight club, then when violently confronted in physical reality, you must slap fight like a girl.
That you think Fight Club was about actual fighting shows that you did not understand what the book was actually about.
Fight Club was about dropping the pretenses and resolving the issues directly. No one was ever killed in the story except by the police.
funny how my comment was a response to another that you have no part in yet you feel the need to comment on someone else's phrase as if they were my own... pretty uneducated of you
funny how my comment was a response to another that you have no part in yet you feel the need to comment on someone else's phrase as if they were my own... pretty uneducated of you
Israel has a right to pursue it's best interests, and that includes manipulating other nations. If that has happened to us, then it's our own fault. We were warned about people with competing allegiances. What's interesting is that the closer Jews come to completing their goals the closer they get to a new Jewish holocost, but this time the role of the Germans will be played by the Muslims. They are their own worst enemies.
Agree completely. No peace without justice. Those who are first will be last
Agree completely. No peace without justice. Those who are first will be last
At this point deaths attributed to God are many times more than deaths Attributed to satan. Maybe we should start questioning the man in the sky?
throughout all of recorded human history, only the losers of a conflict are ever found guilty of war crimes.
And deservedly so. It's called blowback, a.k.a. "reap what you sow" a.k.a. karma.
Yeah they hate us for our freedoms, that's the ticket. Seriously? Spare me the santimonious bullshit.
If it does happen to take place on American shores it will be down to those who fought relentlessly for open borders and immigration 'reform'. And who would that be? The same people who insist Israel is a Jewish state. Ain't karma a bitch?
No, Fuck You, Palestinian hater.
Land thieves. Child killers.
Land thieves? WTF???? Name a nation on this earth and that has not been occupied by other than the original inhabitants??? and BTW it was the f*cking UN that created Israel in the first place...so maybe they're the Palestiian haters????
You are naive, to put it kindly
Since the area was unified into a kingdom in 1768, Nepal has not been taken over and occupied by a foreign army or ruled by a foreign government.
Who lived there before that?
England as an example, invaded by jutes, celts, saxons, vikings, normans, romans, picts, etc....
Israel was there after fleeing from slavery in Egypt some 2700 years ago...the area has been overrun since then by Romans, Turks, Christians and numerous other sects, tribes, religions.
"Who has claim? Everyone has claim, No one has claim"
Leave them the hell alone, and they might leave you alone
Just couldn't accept the answer huh? Say good job? Gotta keep arguing.
"Leave them the hell alone, and they might leave you alone", wonder if zionists ever think about that.
Here's another answer: Antarctica, as it's never had the status of a nation. People have explored, lived there, yet no one has claimed it and made it stick.
his advice applies to both sides equally but your bias won't let you see that
Antartica?!?! Muah ha ha ha!!!
Hope about the Moon? How about Mars? How about ImaginationLand?
Attention on deck! Fucking 5-Star Idiot on Deck!!
HA HA HA AH AHAH AHAHA AHA AHAHAHAH HAA HA AHAH HA HA!!!
Blow me, it was supposed to be sarcasm douche. Sarcasm detector, apparently yours is broken.
if might makes right- as you claim- why would anyone ever leave anyone else alone? To the victor the spoils! Let's hear it for Perpetual War! Hip hip.....
because they don't want to get smacked anymore than the next guy... pretty simple logic that you can't seem to follow... life has always been conflicted... shit at the basic levels of matter you have two opposing charges.... newton's laws are laws of conflict when you get down to it, but you have applied emotions to your logic and can't see through the haze....
You don't know anything.
During the cold war the world almost ended in nuclear holocaust a dozen times, but miraculously we survived and America "won".
Which really means the USSR backed down graciously. Now we're heading down that road again. You think we can keep flirting with disaster? Evolve man. I know it's hard. Summon all your power and fucking evolve. War and conflict may be fun with rocks and sticks, but in case you didn't notice times have changed. War is not logical. The Soviets got that. EVOLVE, FUCKTARD, EVOLVE.
Evolve into what?!
Somebody knocks down one of our buildings, we knock down one of their countries.
Peace is great but it ends when attacked. Atleast the Israelis are giving Palestinians the opportunity to leave places that will be bombed. How is it that a building gets a Knock on the Door bomb to give occupants a chance to run but somehow hundreds are getting murdered? I think of these people as suicide bombees.
Fuck them and their plans for a global caliphate.
I don't like anyone in the Middle East but I have no illusions as to who is to blame.
If it were up to me, nuke the whole region from the Med to the Gulf and everywhere in between.
Before you down arrow me, ask yourself one thing... would you miss the Middle East if it were gone tomorrow? Be honest.
Here's another Tonga
Tonga? LOL...Alright, I concede that throughout recorded history there have been a few places that have not been overrun and occupied by someone else. They are the exception....even semi peaceful nations like Canada have taken the land from the original inhabitants...Here in the USA we took it from the natives, who took it from other natives, who took it from other natives..
The only point I am making is that this has happened throughout history and will continue too...But it seems like only Israel is at fault
I know, I'm just having a little bit of fun with the question.
"Israel was there after fleeing from slavery in Egypt some 2700 years ago"
Wow, I didn't know anyone took this fairytale seriously. Care to show us your evidence?
Most Jews living in Israel cannot prove Levantine Ancestry via haplogroup testing. They are genetically closer to modern (southern) Italians. Because the ones whose descendants survived LEFT ISRAEL for Turkey, Greece, and Italy. The population bottlenecked in Italy, then spread north into Europe where outbreeding basically ceased (this is circa 1000 AD), and a few hundred years later, east into Slavic and Russian lands.
This is like an English person demaning land in Denmark because of Danish ancestry 1300 years ago. It's like a Sicilian demanding land in Norway because of some Norman ancestry 1000 years ago.
And for the record, the majority of Egyptian slaves were North African... just like the Egyptians.
So you agree the UN has the authority to create something huh? To determine borders?
Agreed. So Israel needs to GTFO of their illegal settlements.
GTFO of Palestinian land.
Yesterday.
I do not agree the that the UN has "authority" to do any f*cking thing...THE UN is a clusterf*ck.
When you attack someone and lose, you might lose territory. It is a consequence of war...Look at boundaries before WWI and after...WWII before and after....Look at every other friggen war, winners gain, losers lose...Same as it always was....
So if you support Hamas, you must also support Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS? Just guessing...
Keep guessing, fucknut.
Might makes right? Do you know why the League of Nations was created?
spoken like a pussy full of victimhood... i can make just as stupid remarks as you so i guess we are all pieces of shit now aren't we.... i can drink to that like patton drinking with the russians for both being son's of bitches
Not everyone. Just you.
You have nothing to add. "war is hell" is trite bullshit that contributes nothing. Advances nothing. Morally vacant.
So fuck off already.
league of nations... that worked well...
Nation is a very limitating requirement as the nation paradigm was brought by 'americans'... As 'americans' invaded a lot of places, displacing people in the doing, well, it certainly helps the conclusion.
they are war mongers hiding behind peace... just like israel... just like hamas... these people don't want peace and it is clear from their inflamatory rhetoric and their choosing of sides
Not by international law they are not. And while I believe indiscriminate rocket fire by hamas is also a war crime, I was corrected by an expert on international law who pointed out the right of an occupied people to self-determination comes first and foremost.
For the record, I'm still against indiscriminate rocket fire; though I more vehemtly oppose the deliberate targeting of civilians.
what the fuck is international law? really? why should national sovereignty bow to a bunch of bureaucrats? international law only gets invoked when someone bites of more than they can chew and expect others to save them
So you are admitting that Israel was created illegally then...
Isn't it horrible? all the new technology that allows for instant global communication has undermined Israels ability to control the narrative and now that the world sees them for the murderers so many of us have proclaimed them to be for so long, the only defense your tribe can come up with is that the whole world is anti-semites. Boo-fuckin-hoo.
It's like that youtube video of an Israeli commander eating the heart of a dead, enemy, soldier.
great post. the plow is nothing compared to the internet in historical impact. Governments and big business are having a very very hard time controlling the narrative now. And I love it.
Right, so shooting little kids (5-7 yrs) in the back at 50 yards right in front of their house isn't murder if Israel does it. It's defending against terror. Oh, and firing WP arty rounds in daylight into civilian centers is just A-OK right!!!
Fucking fuckwit.
alls i see is hamas firing firecrackers into israel, then israel overreacting. 600+ palastinians dead? children killed? Im not sorry to say they will reap what they sow.
Absolutely, many of the rockets being fired at Israhell lack warheads entirely. Here's a good vid specifically addressing this:
https://m.youtube.com/?reload=7&rdm=16hook670#/watch?v=2CkZAYh9VkE
for that matter so is hamas... every nation has a right to wage war regardless of the logic or purpose as every nation has a right to defend itself.... it makes me sad to see the lack of clarity and side choosing occurring on this board....
do they also have a right to bill me for the weapons they use to defend themselves?
they're not "bill"ing you...Your elected representatives are volunteering your tax money to buy them more weapons...
bribed, illegally by a foreign power in connection with a fifth column of traitors. enslaved in debt based usury hell system... time to throw off the shackles.
then use your lawful right to rebel rather than whine
thanks for advice. Given your display of ignorance above, I think i will trust my own instincts and act accordingly.
so are you rebelling against my "ignorance" or the corruption of your homeland?