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Things In The Middle East Are About To Get Much Worse

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There are major clashes occurring currently in The West Bank tonight as claims of 10s of thousands and Palestinians clash with Israeli soldiers. Sadly, as the photos below reveal taken moments ago show, things appear set to get very much worse.



As Sky reports,

Israeli security forces have shot dead three Palestinians during a massive protest in the West Bank, according to medical officials.


The three people were among an estimated 10,000 people who are clashing with soldiers and border police at a checkpoint in Qalandiya, between Jerusalem and Ramallah.


The protest came hours after 15 people were killed and more than 200 injured when a UN school in the city of Beit Hanoun was hit by an artillery shell.


At least 90 people were injured in the checkpoint clashes, with some reports that live fire was being used.


An Israeli army spokeswoman told the AFP news agency soldiers were using "riot disposal means" to control the protest.


She said: "There are thousands of rioters there. They are rolling burning tyres and throwing Molotov cocktails and fireworks at soldiers and border police.


"The soldiers are responding with riot disposal means."

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Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:19 | 5000510 world_debt_slave
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wouldn't you also fight if someone stole your land?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:20 | 5000528 SheepRevolution
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Doesn't seem so from the sheeple in the US...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:28 | 5000593 kaiserhoff
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Israel is playing a dangerous and stupid game.

They could be wiped out quickly if Hamas raises the stakes.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:32 | 5000627 synergize
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Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:33 | 5000641 chumbawamba
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Where are all the hasbara whores today?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:35 | 5000653 chumbawamba
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The Harlots of Hasbara.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:39 | 5000689 COSMOS
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Hopefully fighting on the front lines for their country as they should.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:42 | 5000710 john39
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tomorrow is international Al Quds day....  look out.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:54 | 5000757 J S Bach
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Heed this quote from Solzhenitsyn...


“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 17:55 | 5000810 Juno Rock
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How very true. The hero dies one death. The cowards? Many. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:00 | 5000843 J S Bach
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The Palestinians are not the cowards.  WE are the cowards... for we allow our government and its soulless sycophants to continue to feed the monster state of Israel without a word of protest against the blatant barbarism visible to all with eyes to see.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:02 | 5000857 quintago
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Once Hizbollah starts firing rockets into northern Israel, it's going to be on. The timing of Khamenei's comments earlier was not a coincidence.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:15 | 5000946 JoeSexPack
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Jews could have bought Palestine in 1948, wholesale, for less than 5% of Israel's subsequent military budget. Such a deal!


Rothschilds & FED could have loaned $$$, secured by future reparations from Austria, Germany, Hungary & others.


But no, apparently theft & murder are more fun.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:34 | 5001043 Four chan
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again, all wars are bankers wars.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 06:30 | 5002656 bluemaster
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and most bankers are ?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:44 | 5003132 Joeman34
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No, all wars are religious wars.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:31 | 5003608 RET
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Like the French and Indian War? Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Mexican War, Civil War, Spanish War, WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam?  Gulf War 1?  Gulf War 2? Napoleanic wars?  Russian Civil War?  Chinese Glorious Revolution?


Maybe not "all".

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:31 | 5004466 Joeman34
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Point well taken...  "more wars are fought over religion than over any other reason".  Better?

And many of your examples above were actually fought over 'relious-like' dogma.  Think Nazism, the catalyst for WWII...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 18:47 | 5005651 fourZero
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Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:36 | 5001064 Herd Redirectio...
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White Paper of 1939 limited Jewish ownership of land, and Jewish immigration.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:47 | 5001153 kaiserhoff
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thank god none of this is interfering with Barry's vacation.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:16 | 5001304 john39
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let's be honest, if barry was not on vacation, would he have much to offer the situation?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:28 | 5001360 kaiserhoff
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Well, he needs a break.  I have it on good authority that the Dude worked himself half to death,

for ten or twelve minutes last week.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:15 | 5001555 Elvis the Pelvis
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Islam's a huge problem.  Those crazy Muslims will be the death of us all.  Bitchez.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 23:38 | 5002185 fuu
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#trainwreck #popcorn

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:11 | 5002248 bunzbunzbunz
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 Get free bitcoins at

You can eat them to stay alive.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:13 | 5002255 bunzbunzbunz
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Activity after an NBA game.

Mild rock concert in the pit.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 02:05 | 5002417 A Nanny Moose
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Not really. We have RTBA. They will not.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 05:53 | 5002626 JR
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Truthseeker2, the video of this lone man during the ceasefire, calling out, time and again, trying to reach his family as he runs in desperation through and over the silent piles of rubble that once was homes - hoping with him that he will hear a responding voice - then only to hear that uncanny silence broken by a bullet fired by a hidden Israeli as it brings him down, and hear the thud of yet another as it hits his body, and another - has haunted me for days in my despair over the plight of these helpless people.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 07:13 | 5002707 BigJim
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The main spin from ZOG is that Israel is just 'protecting itself' from unprovoked Palestinian rocket attacks. Please watch and share:

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:17 | 5001570 willwork4food
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Servicing the Wokie takes al ot out of a man.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 23:52 | 5002212 IndyPat
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No doubt.
Shaving her ass and teaching her to walk backwards everyday.
How does he do it?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:48 | 5001887 Zadok
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One cannot orchestrate the demise of Muslim, faux Jewry, and western culture doing it the easy and cheap way. It is expensive to implode the world to weaken it for takeover.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:16 | 5001565 Flagit
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The timing of Khamenei's comments earlier was not a coincidence.

I wonder if he reads ZH? Notice how he selectively targeted the Zionists and not the Jews in general.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:18 | 5001778 ILLILLILLI
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>> Notice how he selectively targeted the Zionists and not the Jews in general.

And rightly so...

What the Zionist wants, the Zionist takes.

Read about the deception here:

Every word out of the mouth of a Zionist is a lie...


Save this link and post it where you think it is relevant. The Zionist wants to frame the argument in terms of "today", not the historical evidence.

The Zionist wants you to forget about the he can steal the future.



Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:04 | 5000868 linniepar
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Silence is acceptance and it's sickening. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:10 | 5000925 tmosley
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The land of bilk and Sunni.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 23:02 | 5002120 disabledvet
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The land of the silk bikini!

Jew out phuckers!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:48 | 5001155 toady
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"Israel's live ammunition resulted in 2 martyrs"

This is the stuff I'll just never understand. Martyrs? The Islamic people make such a big deal out of "martyrs". Get a clue. The rest of the world doesn't give a shit about martyrs!

And attacking a checkpoint and expecting no casualties? Of course there will be casualties when thousands of unarmed people attack soldiers that have automatic weapons! I'm surprised there aren't thousands of casualties!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:08 | 5001264 chumbawamba
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Hahaha.  I hope you're American because then the irony here will be that much more delicious.

What kind of reception do dead American soldiers receive when their parts return back home?  I'll tell you: with way more attention and fanfare than the living ones, who are basically discarded and ignored when they come back (or occasionally incarcerated or killed).

You could almost call them...martyrs.

I am Chumbawamba.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:27 | 5001356 toady
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You can call them martyrs, but you'll be the only one. You really are from Europe, aren't you?

Ever since the W days, really since Nam, Americas dead are brought back under cover of darkness, no flash photos please.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:47 | 5002077 ThirteenthFloor
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Maybe they are fiquring out One World Government types do not take prisoners.   "it's better to burn out than to rust, out of the blue into the black"

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 23:11 | 5002135 All_Your_Base
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When the dead are brought ***home***, supporters line the path of the procession. Small towns stop what they are doing. You are an ignorant contrarian.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 23:33 | 5002173 toady
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Do they call them martyrs and call the enemy godless? Let's not get confused here, we're talking about the politics/propoganda of claiming your beloved martyrs are doing Gods work.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:06 | 5002241 stormsailor
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idf firing at 10000 rioters with live rounds, 3 dead.  what a batch of bullshit.


when they want to shoot at them, they will.  they will roll in with blackhawks and mow down all 10000 in about 45 seconds.


so cry me a river. 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 01:05 | 5002345 Freddie
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It is still a total waste.  Kids dying for the NWO and banksters.  The young soldiers bosses are cowards who refuse to defend The Constitution.  They care more about weapons systems and pensions.  Other countries would have had colonels overthrow what is going on. 

All wars are about murdering other people for banksters. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:55 | 5001908 Zadok
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@ I am Chumbawamba

Per the banker soldier perception paradigm, one is never fully patriotic until you have achieved death, hence the greater honor in death than life.

Kind of a contrast to the Gadsden flag, eh?

We're not all docile, deaf, dumb, and oblivious...

The philosophy is a pure perversity on all of humanity. Epic stupidity while choosing to think oneself good.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:28 | 5002024 ThirteenthFloor
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The point you make that dead soliders recieve more consideration when they return is compounded by the fact American's are waking up that our wars have no real cause.

US is becoming a wimpy country as those seeking one world government infect our culture and education. Part of that infection is endless wars, countless deployments, and fighting for causes that are well obsurd or lies.  In this age of colored revolutions and private mercenaries war is now commerce, I wonder what Gen. Patton would feel today.  

But to show that contrast I point to Gen. Patton speech to the 3rd army. 'No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country, he won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country'.

What would Patton think if he knew that 'Americans' helped Nazi's and Facists flee Germany to Romania, or American's like Prescott Bush funded Hitler.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:00 | 5002225 IndyPat
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That's exactly why Patton had to get dead...somehow.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:36 | 5002296 Freddie
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Patton used tanks against American military veterans in DC aka The Bonus Army.  His boss was McArthur and Ike was involved as well.  Smedley Butler supported the vets.  The US military works for the banksters.  Patton eventually got uppidity and they made sure to dispose of him.  Probably OSS men did it.

Ike later warned us about MIC.  McArthur died a scum bag who used tanks against Americans like Hillary/Reno at Waco.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:15 | 5001771 TMLutas
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Here's what I don't understand. What's the scenario where you've got a border checkpoint and ten thousand palestinians coming at it and a live fire usage only results in 2 martyrs? Love them or hate them, Israelis have been demonstrating they know how to shoot for several decades now. 2 martyrs in that situation does not sound like reality. 

It sounds like propaganda and look at all the eager consumers. 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:23 | 5002272 stormsailor
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if idf decides to go live.  there would be 3 survivors, not 3 shot.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:16 | 5001774 tmosley
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Christianity sure cared a lot about it when they were under attack.

Something about the mountain god makes people go nuts.  Maybe he should be left back in the desert where he belongs?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:37 | 5001861 toady
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Yeah, that's probably my problem with the martyr stuff,  how its tied into religion. Our God is better than your God. A little bit like who has the biggest dick.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:05 | 5001955 Seize Mars
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We all die. All of us. Perhaps some are thought to die with dignity, with honor? You actually begrudge these people considering a murder victim as a martyr? You can't repsect someone's fucking status in death, for fuck's sake?

You're a pretty sad excuse for a human being.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:19 | 5002000 toady
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I don't begrudge them, I just don't understand the propaganda. There's no status in death. You think the dead care about their status? It's just the propaganda machine milking every last drop.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 06:30 | 5002653 BigJim
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Think about it tribally (and no, I don't mean, as-in-the-tribe)

If you can convince your fellow tribe-members that death isn't the end of everything, but a door to a glorious afterlife, then your tribemembers are more likely to commit themselves 100% to military engagements rather than run away. All things being equal*, the tribe with the most committed members will probably win, because they will be more likely to fight to the bitter end.

*Of course, all things aren't equal; the Palestinians are vastly out-trained, out-equipped, and outclassed by the Israeli military, so they just wind up getting slaughtered.

However... without this tendency to see their dead as martyrs, and without all the religio-cultural beliefs that underpin the Palestinians' sense of who they are, the Palestinians, individually, would probably have just buggered off in dribs and drabs to go live somewhere - anywhere! - else.

You could see this as a meme trying to perpetuate itself. Unfortunately (for it), it's fighting a meme inhabiting a group with vastly superior resources: Zionists.

It will be interesting to see if the Islam meme can evolve to deal with Zionism, which seems much more adaptive. I mean, just look at the boards here; we are flooded with zionist trolls, most of them (from what I can make out) Israelis or Western Israeli-firsters, with a few simple Islamophobes shoring up their ranks. Where are all the Muslims? There are 1.3 billion of them; the tens of millions who speak English and have an internet-enabled computer should be bombarding sites like this and every other Western 'news' outlet with comments.

I suspect Islam, which was ahead of most other cultures in the middle ages, has simply been out-evolved. Maybe it will leap-frog into intellectual prominence again, but, frankly, when I look at Muslims most of them seem stuck, at least technologically, in the early 1920's. And culturally a lot of them are still medieval.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:59 | 5002336 MoneyThimbles
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The Christian definition of "martyr": someone who suffers death for witnessing the Faith, often in situations of self-sacrifice for the good of others.


The Islamic definition of "martyr": someone who is killed while trying to murder others.


Nowhere is the Satanic origin of this death-cult more obvious than in this cynical NewSpeak.


Fri, 07/25/2014 - 06:32 | 5002659 BigJim
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Yeah? Try reading the Talmud, troll.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:47 | 5003679 Doctor Faustus
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Just curious, have you?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 20:06 | 5005900 BigJim
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No. But then I'm 95% certain the person I was replying to hasn't read the Koran, either. Or the Talmud, for that matter.

My understanding is the Talmud comprises 6200 pages of dense rabbinical nitpicking, sophistry, racism... and wisdom. It would take a busy person a decade to read and probably more than an entire lifetime to get a half-decent grip on. But, like the Islamophobe above, I can probably cherry-pick choice nasty quotes out of it to match his, sentence-for-sentence. Will they be out of context? Maybe, but no more than his.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:11 | 5000924 Keyser
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Err, in case you missed it, the US is funding both sides of this fight, just like in Iraq...


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:14 | 5000942 john39
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no shit? so the Palestinians got f16's, Iron dome batteries...  bombs, missles, gernades and the like?  I had no idea.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:26 | 5001007 90's Child
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Lol John your dry humor made me laugh.

It's so funny reading what ignorant masses have to say bout something they can't view logically and form a rational and objective opinion.

Apples to oranges mother fuckers.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:38 | 5001078 Herd Redirectio...
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Yep, the Palestinians got Merkavas w/ Trophy system... 

Trophy system is really something.  Heads up to terrorists worldwide, RPGs no longer work on tanks!  Crazy but true.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:39 | 5001653 flapdoodle
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RPG's are so, 1970's. Try some Kornets instead... much more "2006".

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:40 | 5002304 Freddie
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Kornets worked very well on Merkava's in Lebanon.  The youngester in the occupied territories also built mines which worked well on Merkavas.   I don't support any country attacking unarmed innocent people with an army.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:38 | 5001404 20834A
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This is like the story of David and Goliath, in reverse.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:05 | 5002238 IndyPat
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Story ain't over yet. Keep reading.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:06 | 5001743 TheObsoleteMan
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We ARE arming the Pals. Why just the other day we sent them the best rocks in our inventory. They are a fusion of limestone and granite. On impact, the rock shatters, and sends small razor sharp pieces flying in all directions. VERY high tech.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:31 | 5000943 J S Bach
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Oh, really?

So, where are the Palestinian tanks and fighter jets to match that which we so amply gift to our gallant Israeli ally?

At this point, I would love to see an evenly matched pitched battle between the forces of darkness and light.  Were it the case, you'd need a high-speed camera to photograph the brave IDF soldiers fleeing for their worthless lives.  How courageous they are when blowing the heads off of defenseless teenagers.  Let's see their valor against an equally-armed opponent.

Yeah... right.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:13 | 5001281 MarsInScorpio
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Bach, you and the other dildoes quacking your BS are Idiots with a capital I.


Fool, none of this would be happening if the psycho serial mass murderers of Hamas hadn't fired over 250 rockets into Israel. These psychos brought this all on themselves - and turdballs like you rationalize it without ever acknowledging how this begin two weeks ago.


As for me, Go Israel! If you have to shoot every last insane Arab to ensure your survival, then that's what you have to do. It's your life, or theirs.


Of course, Israel haters don't accept the idea that the Arabs are out to butcher the Jews. They deny that the psycho Hamas and similar groups will slit the throat of every Jew - and infidel (which means you, you brainless creep) - as soon as they get the chance.


So it's kill, or be killed.


So kill them - and survive.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:20 | 5001331 john39
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>>none of this would be happening..

yes, let's pick up the story after the land theft and embargo... as if that never happened.  cut to Israel, just minding its own business, getting attacked for being Jews...   this cannot stand!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:32 | 5001374 MarsInScorpio
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John39, you are one ignorant twit.


Yes, it is happening because they are Jews. The whole of today's Islam is targeted on wiping out Israel - and wiping out the Jews with it.


When they finish off the Jews, then, they will come to get you.


It's insane to think you can get peace from a religion that has spilled the blood of their own co-religionists for 1,400 years.


What hate-filled fools you and the others who support Hamas are . . .


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:37 | 5001645 conscious being
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You are a Zionist. Don't hide behind the Jews and try to take them all to Hell with you. Many Jews are opposed to what you are doing. Many Jews live at peace in Muslim lands. In Iran for instance, despite all the Zionist inducements to get them to leave because Jews living peacefully in Iran screws up to some degree to Demonize Iran program.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:24 | 5001796 ILLILLILLI
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>> It's insane to think you can get peace from a religion that has spilled the blood of their own co-religionists for 1,400 years.

I guess all the NKVD and Cheka killings were completely acceptable, eh?


Jews killing Jews...and lots of them. That's something they don't want you to hear.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:52 | 5001700 my_nym
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What hate-filled fools you and the others who support Hamas are . . .


So what does that make the Jewishly "Jewish state" of Israel, then?


Ron Paul - Israel Created Hamas

Hamas is a Creation of Mossad


How Israel and the United States Helped to Bolster Hamas


I doubt anyone here helped finance Hamas. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:26 | 5001813 tarsubil
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The sickness of the Zionists in their own words.

"We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children." - Golda Meir, former PM of Israel

This quote is used by Stand With Us to suppport Israeli murdering of children today. Sick as any muslim.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:31 | 5001833 tarsubil
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Truly if you are not for murdering children on the beach, you support hamas and terrorism. There is no winning with your insane sick logic.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:17 | 5001997 willwork4food
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@ Mars..wait WE are hate-filled fools ???...because we don't agree with:

1. Stealing land

2. Refusing to enter the non-proliferation agreement on nuclear weapons of mass destruction

3. Cutting off water supplies to Gaza, using phosphorous bombs against the Geneva convention..arresting and beating up people on ships that were bringing humanitarian supplies to Gaza..including a US Congresswoman. Owning the majority of US news reporting sites, the money supply, the judicial system, the finacial system..

4. Instagiting and using 911 as a proxy for middle east confrontation for the betterment of Israel.

5. Buying out obvious phoney religious pukes like John Hagee with his fat ass, meat eating, dick sucking of the Zionists so he can have a splendid income from his mega church in Texas.

Forgive me for beating around the bush, but FUCK YOU.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:25 | 5002278 bunzbunzbunz
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Can't we all agree that all religious extremists are idiots? Can't we all agree that anyone who would go out of the way to kill someone who isn't a direct threat is evil? Can't we all agree that people of lower intelligence flock to religion? Can't we all agree that people of lower intelligence are more easily enraged? Can't we all agree enraged, religious people are useless to human society?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:58 | 5002335 Quus Ant
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I didn't want you to stop, bunzbunzbunz.  Maybe we can all agree on that.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:55 | 5002098 DaveyJones
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"When they finish off the Jews, then, they will come to get you"

I know, they're dying for my twinkies. What a bunch of boggieman bullshit.   

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:36 | 5001396 All_Your_Base
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She is a supremacist with genocidal fantasies. She is not interested in justice or peace.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:29 | 5001822 TMLutas
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How about starting at 1800, that's a nice round number and long before the invention of zionism. We could do 1700 too. The territory was Ottoman. When the Ottoman empire collapsed and they carved up its bones, where were the jews? Great Britain was given the mandate by the international community. They promised a homeland for jews and another one for arabs in the territory of the palestinian mandate which (for those who don't know) is the current territory of Gaza, Israel, the West Bank, and Jordan. The jews went along and got an immediate war by the arabs who couldn't stand that the british gave sovereignty to some jews in their midst. The arabs lost the war and Israel was born. Fight on the wrong side of a war and you tend to have a rough time with your property claims under the victors. 

Just keep on attacking and losing wars. That's worked out so well for the arabs so far. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 23:15 | 5002087 DaveyJones
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Lets broaden that historical lens a bit. Do you really think the arabs will keep losing these wars? Are you suggesting western interest and petroleum power grabs have nothing to do with the middle east, its recent history, and its innevitable future. Why is the US the only one who blindly goes along and feeds them billions in militay aid.

And your Cliff Notes version forgot all the chapters on the ever growing land grabs which were NOT in response to any "Arab attacks" 

 At least be accurate.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 01:58 | 5006545 luftmensch
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@DaveyJones - Actually, he did cover the land grabs, read more carefully next time:

"Fight on the wrong side of a war and you tend to have a rough time with your property claims under the victors."

Kind of like Hamas saying they'll stop the rockets if Israel will open the border, uh, right, please walk right in neighbor..

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 16:26 | 5007863 DaveyJones
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quit making the wars and the land grabs unfortunate byproducts. So the wrong side of the war is to fight off imperial forces? Nice try  

So why do they continue to push settlements and subsidize jewish mortgages in the occupied areas when no rockets are flying?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 05:51 | 5002621 effendi
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This shit has been going on since long before '48. Read some history books about how the mufti of Jerusalem was inciting attacks on Palestinian Jews in the years 1929-1941, he wanted them exterminated and suceeded in wiping out the Jewish Quarter of Hebron (that had been there for well over a thousand years). By 1942 he had moved to Berlin and had suceeded in changing the mind of Hitler about expelling Jews to Mandate Palestine and instead implement the Final Solution.

If any army (Jews, athiests, black or muslim) wanted to hit a crowd hard with live rounds there would be hundreds dead. So either live rounds were not being fired by the IDF or they were targeting specific individuals who represented a clear danger to a soldiers life. Tough shit.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 20:08 | 5002685 BigJim
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It has indeed been going on since long before '48. In 1827 the British embassador wrote that the Rothschilds were reported to be trying to buy Palestine from under the indigenes' feet from the Ottoman sultan; then, throughout the 19th century they were manoeuvring to bring about the state of Israel by buying small parcels of land (usually from absentee landlords who had no rightful claim to the land in the first place), as well as putting out propaganda pieces like the Scofield bible. In the early 20th c The Arabs helped the Brits and French fight the Ottomans on the understanding that they would get self-rule once the Ottomans were defeated; 'perfidious Albion' (having already promised the land to the Zionists in return for securing US involvement in WWI) was granted 'the mandate' and carried on allowing Zionists to immigrate, as well as slaughter those involved in various Palestinian uprisings against their rule.

Throughout, Zionist leaders like Ben Gurion and Chaim Weizmann said one thing to the Brits (most of whom knew what was really going on) and the local Arabs, while planning something else entirely; Gurion made it clear to his followers that once the state of Israel was created they would try to seize the rest of Palestine from the Arabs, by force of arms if necessary.

As for the Israelis 'restraint', in Deuteronomy, (with regards to acquiring the Land) it says:

Little by little he will drive out these nations as you advance. You will not be able to destroy them all at once, for,
if you did, the number of wild animals would increase and be a threat to you. 23 The Lord will put your enemies in
your power and make them panic until they are destroyed.
24 He will put their kings in your power. You will kill them,
and they will be forgotten. No one will be able to stop you; you will destroy everyone.

The zionists know that they have to tread slowly, or they risk lose the support of their willing slaves, the US taxpayers.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:29 | 5001366 Quus Ant
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what you got isn't anything a trip to Palestine wouldn't cure.  Spend a week in Bethlehem.  I can give you the name of someone to stay with.  he's brown. 

The checkpoints are a trip so be prepared.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:12 | 5002252 Ookspay
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You forgot to capitalize the name of the greatest man whoever lived, Christ! A peace loving man who taught us grace and changed the world.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 01:01 | 5002340 Quus Ant
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Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:41 | 5001476 J S Bach
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MIS (Missing In Sanity)...


1.) How many of those deadly 250 bottle rockets launched into your precious Holy-Land-Wanna-Be state actually took the life of a Chosenite?  I would bet it's below the accepted 50-to-1 Gentile to Jew kill ratio.

2.) Hamas is an innate reactionary entity (white blood cell if you will) against an intruding bacillus (Ashkhenazi "Jews").

3.) My throat, like the righteous Arabs of Palestine, is open to your devil's dagger.  Your juvenile threats do not scare me nor the many millions of others who are slowly becoming truth-savvy.  I do not advocate killing anyone - save those guilty of murder.  

4.) If you are indeed a human being, how do you justify the slaughter of innocents (at a 50-1 ratio) where THIS "nation" is concerned?  If you were to read of the evil Nazis killing 10-to-1 in reprisals against their foes for malfeasance 70 years ago, where would your noble sympathies lie?  (I thought so.)


As one great American once put it...

"An insult from the devil is a compliment."


Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:15 | 5002258 Ookspay
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We have already established that muslims are really crappy warriors, great terrorists but shitty warriors... It's not Israel's fault that muslim men are pussies and bad soldiers.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 01:58 | 5002394 DavidPierre
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Fri, 07/25/2014 - 06:59 | 5002692 BigJim
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 We have already established that muslims are really crappy warriors, great terrorists but shitty warriors... It's not Israel's fault that muslim men are pussies and bad soldiers.

Rmmmm.... ok... I guess that's how they managed to carve out HUGE empires, by being shitty warriors. As for Muslim men today being 'pussies' - I'd love to see you go up against the IDF in Palestine with the same shitty gear Hamas have, or against ISAF in Afghanistan. You are completely clueless... or a troll.

The Muslim insurgents may be a lot of things, but 'pussies' doesn't really describe people with shitty weapons taking on the greatest and most sophisticated militaries that have ever existed.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:59 | 5001483 DaveyJones
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so the massive land grabs and second citizen status started only after rockets?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:17 | 5001566 Plato's Law
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Let me guess. Your favorite vs. in your holiest of all holy books (Judaism's Talmud) is this one:

"Even the best of the gentiles deserve only death."

"Gentiles" take note: next time you hear a Judaic use the term "Torah" ask him to which Torah does he refer?  Judaism has two "Torah."  One is the OT, the other is the Talmud. 



Fri, 07/25/2014 - 07:11 | 5002704 BigJim
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The Torah is basically the OT.

The Talmud is a commentary on the OT and Judaism by later Rabbinical authorities.

Supposedly, if you read a couple of pages a day it would take 7 years to read in all. And as it's pretty dense, dry stuff, you probably couldn't read more than two pages a day.

And yes, there are quotes from the Talmud that are just as hair-raising as stuff from the Koran. But given that the Talmud is recording arguments on OT interpretation, I'm not sure how many of those statements are considered definitive edicts, or just grist to the mill.

So much to learn, so little time...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:17 | 5001571 Pie rre
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It appears to me that Isreal wants the land, mineral rights, gas and water that the Palestinians have.  They will never allow them accress to any freedoms that will allow them the infestructure to develop them and will use any sneaky tricks to keep them ecaactly where they are.  They willl push. maniputlate and sceme as long as it takes. Normal business practices for them.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 03:40 | 5002514 Grumbleduke
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and, it's always handy to have a boogeyman right next door. Keeps the sheep in line.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 02:03 | 5006233 luftmensch
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Hamas Charter:

Their attitude is, once Islamic, always Islamic.  This is why ISIS is talking about attacking Spain.  

"This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement."

On a related note, Western countries should think seriously about why they are inviting millions of muslims into their countries just because some of them have engineering degrees.  And if non-radical Muslims have a problem with that, they should be actively supporting the groups within Islam that believe in more peaceful interpretations of their religion...


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:35 | 5001390 TungstenBars
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Met IDF's, cowards of the biggest caliber. 

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:01 | 5001487 tvdog
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IDF is a terrorist organization, and Israel is a state sponsor of terrorism.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:18 | 5001576 Mesquite
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Nobody mentions the cutting off of their water supply...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 01:18 | 5002368 Freddie
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When Hezbollah stood up to them in 2006 Lebanon then we saw how effective the IDF is.  If Hezbollah had 200 men in Gaza - there would be a different story. What is going on in Gaza is criminal.  The airliner "crash" of Flight 370 (sic) was to distract the public from Gaza.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:19 | 5000966 alien-IQ
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Yes, they give one side bombs and jets, the other side gets band-aids and a sack of flour. Hence "funding both sides".

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:52 | 5001180 Not Too Important
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Not everyone has the 'credit rating' for a Cadillac. Some people only qualify for a recalled Chevy.

And you're on a financial forum???

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:06 | 5001256 logicalman
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ZH is more than just a financial forum, or hadn't you noticed?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:40 | 5001656 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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Sad isn't it... Use to enjoy the market and corzine stories.   Now it is all about choosing sides in some foreign pissing match.  

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 22:34 | 5002039 Seize Mars
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So you think this is some "foreign pissing match?" You think you are allowed to "choose sides?"

I pay up to 58.5% of every USD I earn in taxes. These are taken from me with the threat of violence. If I don't pay they will beat me to a pulp and put me in a cage.

Then, they give my money to Israel.

Then, they spy on every intimate detail of my life.

Then, they give this data to Israel.

Here is some tax data.

    Accounts Receivable Tax
    Building Permit Tax
    Capital Gains Tax
    CDL license Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    Court Fines (indirect taxes)
    Deficit spending and debt servicing (Fiscal 2011 state and local debt per capita was $9184)
    Dog License Tax
    Federal Income Tax
    Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
    Fishing License Tax
    Food License Tax
    Fuel permit tax
    Gasoline Tax
    Hunting License Tax
    Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money)
    Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
    IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
    Liquor Tax (Spirits, wine and beer)(From zero per gallon in Vermont to $34.22 in Washington for spirits)
    Local Income Tax
    Lottery (Fiscal 2011 per capita average was $59)
    Luxury Taxes
    Marriage License Tax
    Medicare and Medicaid Taxes
    Property Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Septic Permit Tax
    Service Charge Taxes
    Social Security Tax
    Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)
    Sales Taxes
    Recreational Vehicle Tax
    Road Toll Booth Taxes
    School Tax
    State Income Tax
    State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
    Telephone federal excise tax
    Telephone federal universal service fee tax
    Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
    Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
    Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
    Telephone state and local tax (Cell phone state and local tax rates in 2013 range from 1.85% in Oregon to 18.67% in Nebraska)
    Telephone usage charge tax
    Toll Bridge, Tunnel and Road Taxes
    Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)
    Trailer Registration Tax
    Utility Taxes
    Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Watercraft Registration Tax
    Well Permit Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax

Enjoy your freedom.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 23:38 | 5002187 r0mulus
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Bravo +1000!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:28 | 5002282 Ookspay
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Diito! I used to always invest with the majority here at ZH and made a killing. Now I bet against them and am still making a killing. Ie, "faceplant" Lol, the majority here said it was a massive loser, "don't but it", So I bought boatloads at $18. ZH is now the bizzaro world...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:21 | 5000927 Quus Ant
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Push a people to the breaking point.  How many kids does Israel think they can kill?


The dollar is collapsing- As the dollar so Zion. 


A thought:  Could Israel be looking to incite its Arab population as an excuse to expel them?  Demographics and time are no friends of Israel.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:27 | 5001015 Ookspay
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Yep the pals need to stop murdering the people of Israel and overthrow their terrorist leaders in HAMas! Then perhaps there will be peace.

Oh yeah that's right it isn't about peace or land or anything else except for THE TOAL DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL! Has been all along.

They will sacrifice their children by hiding rockets in schools and then drag out the bodies and waaiiiilll... The pals suck at war  but are great terorrists!

Send in the UN and abolish hamas NOW!


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:32 | 5001036 Quus Ant
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Your settlements are illegal.  The whole world including the United States agree.

"all settlements are illegal under international law. For example, U.N. Security Resolution 465 calls on Israel to “dismantle the existing settlements.” In addition, Article 49(6) of the Fourth Geneva Convention, ratified by Israel in 1951, states: “The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.”


Get off Palestinian land, fucker.  Then talk peace.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:40 | 5001089 Herd Redirectio...
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Its true that arabs are used to fighting guerilla warfare.

They've done it for centuries, so expecting them to fight with a standing army doesn't pass mustard.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:18 | 5001320 fencejumper
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Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:39 | 5001646 Quus Ant
Thu, 07/24/2014 - 23:50 | 5002210 r0mulus
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Are you serious? Never heard of Saladin or the Battle of Hattin?
Or Constantinople, where Muslim armies ended the Byzantine Empire?
Or the Battle of Vienna or the Battle of Tours, in which Europe barely emerged without Islamic rulers?

You comments are very ignorant of History.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:45 | 5001670 DrewJackson
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So you support all UN rulings?   Agenda 21 types??


Just trying to remember what side I have to be on, to be cool here on ZH!


Putin is a Stud, who plays chess bare chested and turning Russia into next Jeffersonian paradise.


Israel is committing a holycost, slaughter of the poor palestinians who are in ghettos.   Funny because I do not remember stories of jews firing rockets into Germany or German Occupied land in Poland, etc...  

UN is the final arbitor of World Law and we should all just follow along.



Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:52 | 5001696 Quus Ant
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Was there an argument in there somewhere or did you shit on the keyboard and hit save?

and you left out gold.



Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:57 | 5003190 BigJim
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Hey Asswipe, as a Zionist you should worship the UN. Wasn't Israel's creation 'validated' by their authority?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:58 | 5001719 Ookspay
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See, you fell for the islamic lie... Nothing to do with land, only The death and destructin of Israel.

Did you know that the koran encourages lying to infidels? You have been lied to by good koran reading muslims. Of all of the Arab countries none of them care for "the stinky ol' palestinians".

Even before Israel occupation it was egypt and syria etc. None of them give a shit about the pals except that they also hate Israel.

"Fucker"? What are you twelve?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:08 | 5001746 Quus Ant
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I've read the Quran and the Old Testament.  Many times. 

"Fucker" is no more incendiary than the language you use.  And it makes clear the relationship between us.  This is not a civil debate because you are not civil.  Imagine.... apologists for ongoing murder getting pissy about a twelve year old's insult.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:48 | 5001892 Ookspay
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Why don't you just admit it, you are a run-of-the-mill anti-semite mohammaden full of anger and rage, one in a billion! No original thoughts just hatred of Jews and the great satan the US.

Just admit it you little fucker, own it, embrace it and then get your ass over there with a rock in your hand and help correct this tragic injustice!  Yeah I thought so, pussy.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 23:07 | 5002059 Seize Mars
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Anti-semite? Sheesh don't you guys ever get tired of the hysterical bullshit? Is it not possible to discuss the issues without the HYSTERIA! Oooh! An anti-semite!

Give it a rest. (Are there any anti-Christian semites?)

By the way, why do these guys throw rocks? Oh yeah, they've been disarmed. Just like you're trying to do in America!

I wonder what happens right after Americans are disarmed? How many Christians were exterminated by the Soviets?


Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:01 | 5002229 Ookspay
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Mars - Call it what you like. You hate jews for whatever reason, just admit it. You say it's because of the pals of late but it goes way deeper than that. Hatred is usually irrational so don't ask me to explain it.

Oh and by the way, Americans can never be disarmed. You should see the arsenal the average American has, it would blow your mind. We love guns and God; the right to protect ourselves comes from God not government. I am ex-mil and the US military would never turn on the civilian population, maybe a few and only for a while before we water the tree of liberty. If you live in any free country, thank America!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:05 | 5002239 Quus Ant
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"Hatred is usually irrational so don't ask me to explain it."

Here, Ookspay- talk to this guy:

"Why don't you just admit it, you are a run-of-the-mill anti-semite mohammaden full of anger and rage, one in a billion! No original thoughts just hatred of Jews and the great satan the US.

Just admit it you little fucker, own it, embrace it and then get your ass over there with a rock in your hand and help correct this tragic injustice!  Yeah I thought so, pussy."

He knows a thing or two about irrational hatred.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:34 | 5002291 Ookspay
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If you read the complete exchange that you jiffed you would see that my hatred was in fact quite rational. Just like my hatred of islamists killing all over the fucking planet is rational. Not complicated Piss ant, try to keep up, okay?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:35 | 5002293 Quus Ant
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Ok Ookspay.  Whatever you say, fella.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:09 | 5003011 Seize Mars
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Mars - Call it what you like. You hate jews for whatever reason, just admit it. You say it's because of the pals of late but it goes way deeper than that. Hatred is usually irrational so don't ask me to explain it.

Wait, you've concluded I'm an anti-whatever? From what data points? You're wrong bro. I'm not. Your hysteria is misplaced - again.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:05 | 5003226 BigJim
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Didn't you know? If you take the side of one bunch of Semites - the Palestinians - over another bunch of (allegedly) Semites - the Israelis - you're an anti-Semite.

These Hasbara trolls will do anything they can to make it seem that hating Zionism == hating Jews.

Not sure what they'd say to Noam Chomsky, or Norman Finkelstein... of, yeah! Those guys are 'self-hating' Jews!

Like any German who hated Nazis in the '30s must have been a self-hating German.

Zionists' arguments rely on racism, half-truths, and amnesia.

Sorry Ookspay, the more lies and hate you spew, the more people are inclined to do a bit of research... and realise you're full of shit, Talmudist.

Why don't you go back to the 'Israel wants peace' lie? It's more effective than Islamophobia amongst educated people.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 23:55 | 5002217 Quus Ant
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Ha!  I'll be framing that one.  I hope you cleaned the spittle off your screen, it might start clouding your vision. 

Ookspay.  Ookspay. ooooooooOkspay. 

I've had many frothing zionist trolls.  But you were the best.


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 19:09 | 5001273 logicalman
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Let's see.

"If I was an Arab leader I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal, we took their land. It is true that God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we come and we have stolen their country. Why should they accept that?"

David Ben Gurion (1886-1973)

Is this what you are talking about?

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:49 | 5001691 Plato's Law
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Ben Gurion?  Did he echo Golda Meir's sentiment that if anyone threaten's Israel's land they will annhilate the entire planet earth?

I nominate them both for the Nobel Peace Prize!

Next time you meet an "Israel firster" ask them if they ever heard of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty signed by the USA.  Per the Constitution any signed Treaty equals the power of the Constutution itself.

The Treaty requires all signatories to avoid all dealings with nuclear armed non-signatories, which includes India, Pakistan, and, wait for it, yes, Israel!

Sorry Israel Firsters. The USA's ongoing relationship with Israel is a felonious crime.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:21 | 5001790 willwork4food
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+10. and the ongoing relationship with dual citizenship government stoogies is treason.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 00:39 | 5002300 r0mulus
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For what it's worth, Golda Meir has a squared named after her with a large bust of her on display in it in Manhattan...

Creeps me out whenever I see it, knowing the history behind it...

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:23 | 5000987 sleigher
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bu.. but.. they will call them anti-semites.  Oh Noes!!!  I find it fascinating how much power that word holds over americans.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:55 | 5001706 Plato's Law
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I employ the late James Sobran's definition of "Anti-Semite," which is: "Not someone who hates Jews, but rather someone hated by certain Jews."

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:40 | 5001095 oudinot
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That quote was quote  of Ceasar.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 18:53 | 5001185 BearOfNH
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Prof. Groeteschele: Where do you draw the line once you know what the enemy is? How long would the Nazis have kept it up, General, if every Jew they came after had met them with a gun in his hand? But I learned from them, General Black. Oh, I learned.

Brigadier General Warren A. Black: You learned too well, Professor. You learned so well that now there's no difference between you and what you want to kill., a.k.a. Fail-Safe, movie version


Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:07 | 5001516 Psquared
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That could very easily happen here if we lose our nerve.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 20:59 | 5001725 my_nym
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Solzhenitsyn...  yet another """""""""anti-semite.""""""""""


Despite all of his caveats, Solzhenitsyn was still dragged through the mud in the West as an "anti-Semite" following the Russian publication of Two Hundred Years Together, and his book was blacklisted by Western publishers.

My own views probably fall somewhere between Solzhenitsyn's and Duke's. As a non-racist, and someone who is opposed to institutional racism (not least of all because institutional racism has ancient Jewish/Zionist origins), I have serious problems with race absolutism and the concept that people should be deprived of constitutional and national rights based upon what blood is or is not supposedly flowing through their veins (as they are in Israel).

On the other hand, I think it's nonsense that "the Jews who participated in revolution were effectively apostates splitting from the spirit of tradition," as there is no question whatsoever that Jewish doctrine and culture is chock full of racist and bigoted, anti-Gentile and anti-Christian dogma and rhetoric from the Old Testament/Hebrew bible through the Talmud through Jewish Zionist social and political culture, which unquestionably manifests in tenacious, vengeful racism, gangsterism and ethnic cleansing of the kind that Zionist Jews (both religious and "secular") regularly carry out in Israel against the Palestinians, and previously carried out on a vastly larger, apocalypse-sized scale in the early Soviet Union. JudeoFascism



Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:22 | 5001791 my_nym
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Also worth noting the rabbinic roots of much of what Solzhenitsyn was trying to get at:

The management of revolution and counter-revolution is a behavioral science predicated on the Kabbalah, refined in the nineteenth century by Hegel, and incapable of decoding by those who cannot think outside the LeftRight box. The management of opposing ideologies for a higher arcane objective is personified in the career of Moses Hess, Talmud enthusiast, pioneer of Zionism, architect of Soviet Communism and covert shaper of Nazism. On October 9, 1961, the ‘Israel Federation of Labor’ (Histadrut) transfered the mortal remains of Hess, the man Karl Marx referred to as “my communist rabbi,” from a Judaic cemetery near Cologne, Germany, to the Zionist kibbutz at Kinnereth, by the Sea of Galilee, in the Israeli state. This reburial is symbolic of the Alpha and Omega of Moses Hess, from Judaism to Communism to Zionism, in the course of which he even shaped the future Nazi opposition to these movements with the consummate skill of a master conjuror.

Hoffman, Michael (2008-08-10). Judaism Discovered: A Study of the Anti-Biblical Religion of Racism, Self-Worship, Superstition and Deceit (Kindle Locations 11964-11971). Independent History and Research. Kindle Edition.

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 21:55 | 5001914 McCormick No. 9
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