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Dutch Send 40 Unarmed Military Police "Forensic Experts" To MH17 Crash Site

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In an effort to make the MH17 crash site safer, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte has announced that he will be sending 40 unarmed military police. As AP reports, the military police will help the investigators (along with forensic experts) "to look for remaining remains and personal belongings" and "to try to piece together exactly what happened." While pro-Russian separatists have ensured the site is a safe place for the Dutch investigators (who have been given the lead role since Holland was so hard hit), Rutte acknowledged that it "remains a risky place to work," and "will constantly reassess the situation."

As AP reports, The Netherlands is sending 40 unarmed military police to eastern Ukraine as part of a ramped-up effort to find the last victims of the downed Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 still at the wreckage site, Prime Minister Mark Rutte announced late Thursday.

The Netherlands has been given the lead in the investigation into what exactly happened to Flight 17 and is taking charge of efforts to identify the dead. This nation of 17 million was the hardest hit, with 194 of its citizens on board the plane.

 

Rutte said he would also be sending more forensic experts to the scene in the coming days to speed up the investigation that was hampered in its early stages because it was considered too dangerous to work there.

 

He acknowledged that the region of eastern Ukraine controlled by pro-Russian separatists remains a risky place to work.

 

He also is sending forensic investigators to the site to try to piece together exactly what happened when the plane was shot down a week ago, killing all 298 people on board.

Rutte said the military police will help the investigators.

"They are really looking like the forensic experts," he said. "They will be extra hands and eyes to look for remaining remains and personal belongings."

 

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"For tomorrow, we expect our people to be able to conduct the work necessary," he said. "But we will constantly reassess the situation."

 

He added, "we are looking into ways to make the crash site safer."

Rutte said he would not rest until he has brought the perpetrators to justice.

"I'm extremely motivated to find out what happened, who did this," he said, "And as soon as we know, I will do everything in my power — even if it is the last thing I do in this job — to make sure we bring them to justice."

His comments Thursday came hours after two military planes carrying 74 coffins landed at a military base in the Netherlands. A day earlier, the two military transport planes — one Dutch and one Australian — brought back the first 40 coffins and more flights were planned for Friday.

Thousands of people have turned out to watch the convoys of hearses drive from the Eindhoven Air Base to a military barracks in the central city of Hilversum, where the remains will be identified by an international team of experts.

 

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Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:42 | 5003118 LetThemEatRand
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Same with politicians everywhere -- make sure that it appears you are doing something.

The plane was shot down by a missile.  Mystery solved.  Figuring out who fired the missile -- and especially who gave the order to whomever did it -- is not going to be determined by walking around the week old crash site.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:45 | 5003133 Wolferl
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In other news: Seperatists take 40 Dutch hostage in eastern Ukraine.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:14 | 5003255 strannick
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After the Dutch Prime Minister's comments last week about Putin, no doubt they will surely they will find what they were told to.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:20 | 5003284 john39
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the dial on the propaganda machine has been turned up past 11.  one just one shitty British news site, here are a few examples of utterly preposterous garbage:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2705628/Mascara-Amsterdam-precis...

stolen mascera? really...

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2705308/How-solve-problem-like-M...

putin's daughter on the run?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2705388/Yacht-s-way-send-oligarc...

seize russian yachts?

come on, this is pretty pathetic as far as mind control goes....

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:18 | 5003551 sushi
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Find out who did it?

Do they think that the parents, children, friends, fellow citizens of the 400 plus civilians killed due to Ukraine Air FOrce bombing and strafing runs might have had a hand in this?

Or how about a government that threatens to liquidate its own citizenry, crush them like beetles, that is free to use the same degree of force that Saddham used in Libya without a word of western sanction? That have anything to do with it?

Or what of the overthrow of a duly elected representative government that the USSA decided it didn't like too much. That have anything to do with leading to this shoot down?

Or maybe we should just settle the whole issue by agreeing "Fuck the EU."

 

 

 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:52 | 5003710 NotApplicable
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Funny thing is that being it's the Daily Mail, the stories undermine themselves.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:28 | 5003881 CheapBastard
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Gee. Barry and the Uke's are pretty quiet about those 400 Blackwater Barrysent over there. 

 

Gee.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:02 | 5004323 MeetTozter
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Holy Scott Ritter, how many of those Dutch Policemen will be wearing Oakley,s and not speak a word of "Dutch"?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:23 | 5003571 Kamath
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It is FAR more likely that ukrainian Nazi troops of the Right Sector or other similar Nazi scum shoot one or two of them, and blame it on the separatists. >:(

Actually, that is what I expect will happen. >:(

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:47 | 5003685 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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Funny, I was just thinking, "If the Ukraine govt is willing to down a jetliner and blame the separatists, aren't they willing to kill the investigators and blame the separatists?"

 

But the funny thing is you might be right.  But in that case, the investigators are still dead and the separatists still blamed either way.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:50 | 5003706 DutchR
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They send in 23 investigators, 40 militairy police (unarmed wtf?)

BUT, they are also sending, paratroopers, special forces (commando's) and the australians are sending a squadron Special Air Service Regimen.

Not as unarmed as it seems.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:19 | 5004123 PT
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Tonight the telescreen told me that the Australians are sending an additional 100 Federal Police, and all I could think of was, "An extra 100 Federal Police?  What are they all going to do over there?  Comb the fields for body parts?  How many Aussies died on that plane  (27 if I remember correctly)?  Four officers per victim?  I don't know.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:19 | 5003272 Kirk2NCC1701
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Nice PR gesture, but that's all it is.  The site has been so contaminated, and items removed (even plane parts), that a conclusive forensics is now impossible.

At best, they might determine if the crash was due to an on board explosion, a SAM or AAM.  One video that shows the falling plane, shows the right (starboard) engine on fire and wings intact.  As I recall.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:43 | 5003945 walküre
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Important is that we will only hear what they want the world to hear. Hopefully it's the truth and even if that means, they can't come to a conclusion.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:19 | 5003274 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Agreed figure the 'seperatists' already scoured the place for any missile parts that might contain a serial number on it by now. They've already bagged and tagged them if any were there.

 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:30 | 5003329 Youri Carma
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I am still not an 100% convinced it was a missile that hit flight MH17.

Amsterdam Schiphol airport functions as a hub for Europe and the rest of the world. Many people have been on that airport just to transfer to an other flight, continuing their journey. The security of this airport, also the training of new personal, is handled by the Israelis/Mossad. Of course Mossad isn't the only spy agency present in the Netherlands. You can name the whole alphabet soup with them. Did you know that the Netherlands is the country with the most phonetaps on their citizens?

So now you can see that since Schiphol Airport is under complete zionst control makes it the ideal spot to shuffle some bomb on a certain plane.

Underwear Bomber False Flag - Fellow Passenger Testifies http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/7590-was-underwear-bombe...

Escobar: " ... a murky security procedure at Amsterdam's Schiphol airport - where security is operated by ICTS, an Israeli company based in The Netherlands and founded by former officers from the Israeli Shin Bet intel agency."

FROM: A chessboard drenched in blood, 23 July 2014, by Pepe Escobar http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-01-230714.html

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:42 | 5003406 MasterControl
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Actually the main question is why was the plane diverted?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:57 | 5003456 Youri Carma
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Yeah, and this has been an 100% confirmed now.

Pilots Heard Ukrainian Air Traffic Control Order MH17 to Change Route http://www.prisonplanet.com/pilots-heard-ukrainian-air-traffic-control-o...

It's very obvious why.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:41 | 5003119 thatthingcanfly
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Unarmed?

Wow, gutsy.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:44 | 5003128 icanhasbailout
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they might want to add to that coffin order

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:12 | 5003520 Ozy_mandias
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Apparently armed Autralians are also going. 

http://rt.com/news/175444-armed-police-ukraine-mh17/

My guesss is that there is another 'incident', some of these guys get shot and presto; NATO intervention.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:28 | 5003597 disabledvet
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Intervention? Bwhahahahahahaha. That's sovereign Ukrainian territory bitch. Those Aussies have a license to kill. Everything else is now dealing with the war with Russia proper.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:08 | 5003792 flyingpigg
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Unarmed sitting ducks eh Dutch. The NL authorities rarely allow people carrying weapons. Even the requests from shipowners with Dutch flagged vessels who asked the government permission to take armed personnel on board to defend against the Somali pirates were rejected!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:50 | 5003155 Confused
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That was my first thought as well.

But lets be real. Anything happens to them, and its game on, big time. Everyone will be watching. Everyone. There is only so much shit many of these countries will take. There is a tipping point. 

It is also possible that they recieved 'assurances' from all the players. Could be more theatre. Who knows? 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:56 | 5003185 icanhasbailout
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"Anything happens to them, and its game on, big time. Everyone will be watching. Everyone."

 

"who did it" and "who gets blamed for it" are non-intersecting sets

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:56 | 5003192 Scarlett
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The false flag setup is now complete.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:31 | 5003603 disabledvet
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Your "False Flag" is now an actual war. Russia is shelling Ukrainian territory proper.

And vice versa.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:23 | 5003304 swass
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@thatthingcanfly:

"Unarmed? Wow, gutsy."

The Dutch are hard ones to figure out.  They fly around pimp-my-ride looking orange jets that look like they are a painted target, and send unarmed MPs into a warzone.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:15 | 5003821 Oldrepublic
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The Dutch did a really great job in Srebrenica while armed! (sarc)

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:49 | 5003974 walküre
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The verdict against the Dutch was only cast the week prior to 7/17. The Hague convicted the Netherlands basically of assisted genocide which made huge headlines. It had the national emotions in a knot.

Boom, then the plane crash and all attention has been diverted. The nation as a whole is grieving.

There are no coincidences.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:16 | 5005030 Youri Carma
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The Dutch army was completely outnumbered and pocketed in Sebrenica and asked NATO headquarters for assistence for days but (deleberately in my opnion) didn't get it.

The only thing he could do, the Dutch commander was thinking, is sort of regulate the situation and at the same time keep an eye on it. Well that didn't turn out well as we all know by now.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:57 | 5004625 Youri Carma
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I just heard in the Dutch media that while they are unarmed there will be enough protection around to secure a perimeter and I think the Russians will also keep an eye on it.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:47 | 5003142 youngman
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That site has been pretty well picked thru by now...all the good stuff has been taken..if your looking for your gold watch....its gone...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:54 | 5003179 Wahooo
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There might be some teeth.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:58 | 5003195 Freddie
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All the bodies that had been dead for weeks?  The serial number for the Flight 370 Boeing 777?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:18 | 5003277 MiltonFriedmans...
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I see that you are one of the few tuned into the reality frequency, Freddie.
Someday, this saga will make one hell of a movie, not to mention the last 300 years of revisionists history we have all been taught.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:24 | 5004147 shovelhead
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Because nobody can tell a body has been frozen and thawed.

How about tuning out of retarded?

 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:50 | 5003985 walküre
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Are the families of the victims allowed to see any of the remains? The coroners reports must all be faked then as well. It's a pretty wide conspiracy.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 21:53 | 5006176 MiltonFriedmans...
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Walk, sounds a little like Sandy Hook, doesn't it? Yes, it's a huge conspiracy and David Blair, the City and SERCO are at the center of this one. Crime scene management is one of their many specialties

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:47 | 5003143 debtor of last ...
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In other news, a major natural gas provider for households in the Netherlands drowns in phone calls from people who don't want to use Russian gas anymore...

95% is domestic, only 5% Russian 'in the mix'.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:47 | 5003144 NoDebt
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Remaining remains?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:50 | 5003151 Dr. Engali
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They are trying to piece them together.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:52 | 5003162 Confused
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They are alongside the known knowns, and unknown knowns. But, what they need in the unkown unkowns. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:26 | 5003324 swass
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There are also known unknowns.  Such as, I know Obama is a bitch, but I'm just not sure how much of a bitch he is.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:48 | 5003145 dizzyfingers
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"Dutch Send 40 Unarmed Military Police "Forensic Experts" To MH17 Crash Site"

Gee, isn't it a little late for that?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:48 | 5003149 Space Animatoltipap
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"Unarmed" ... The pseudo pascific Dutch just love "Srebenica".

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:51 | 5003160 buzzsaw99
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wow, a tiny unarmed contingent. bold move.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:56 | 5003186 Winston Churchill
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They will have very big truncheons , so there is that.

Hey big Dutch boy,is that a truncheon in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me ?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:06 | 5003233 buzzsaw99
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don't truncheon me bro

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:18 | 5003540 Seer
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Sign leading in to the area reads:

"War zone, no weapons beyond this point."

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:33 | 5003615 disabledvet
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More like "come and get it!" when you get there.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:53 | 5003169 IridiumRebel
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Hey! Look at the bright side...when America sends "experts" they come calling with white phosphorus!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:57 | 5003174 Dr. Engali
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There are only two things I can't stand in this world,......  people who are intolerant of other people's cultures,and.... the Dutch.

 

 

 

http://youtu.be/QJ882QYzr-M

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:55 | 5003176 IPURDOM75
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If one of those guys gets shot i'm affraid we won't too be far from WW3....The Ukrainian governement doesn't want to fall alone. Might be tempted to drag the whole world with it.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:23 | 5003305 fleur de lis
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It hasn't been Ukrainian government for a while. That place is Nulandistan now.

 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:55 | 5003181 SpanishGoop
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Beautifull false flag setup.

Will only cost 40 lives.

 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:26 | 5003317 tony wilson
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a double tap blackwater sas cia mossad bullet in the heart and cheesy fucking head for these walking corpse men.

dumb cunts.

 

why dontes der dutch just ask team zion usa for the real time video and electronic intel.

this is about getting forward logistics osce military agents in on the ground

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:25 | 5003585 Seer
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I don't believe that the Dutch are being insincere about recovering bodies.  This issue should not be demeaned: if you'd lost family members like this I'm sure that you (people in general) woudl want to at least have the body of their loved one(s) returned.  ANY govt that doesn't support such action is likely going to fall out of favor with its citizens (like there's really any group of citizens that really do like their govt).

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:57 | 5004028 walküre
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I thought about this. To be honest, I doubt there's anything left that would resemble my "loved ones"

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:39 | 5004208 fleur de lis
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When Ozero said "corpse men" I thought that he was using and mispronouncing words he didn't understand.  Maybe he understood all along. One of those Freudian slips.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:56 | 5003184 pathetic looser
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england got the black boxes , dutch are sending investigators , is malasia doing anything?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 09:57 | 5003196 Winston Churchill
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Making sate packed lunches.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:29 | 5004166 shovelhead
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Collecting 95 mil in insurance.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:01 | 5003208 agNau
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The crash site is now officially a "gun free zone", they will be perfectly safe within that zone.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:01 | 5003209 NoWayJose
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The Dutch should send them to the actual 'crime scene' - and investigate the air traffic recordings seized by Ukraine, interview tower staff, and check with SU 25 air bases. The evidence is not at the crash site.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:59 | 5004039 Seer
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In fairness, and to maintain some sense of respect for those that lost loved ones, the primary mission is likely to be about recovering bodies and artifacts that would help identify the dead.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:02 | 5003214 SoDamnMad
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If they find many remains, if they see lots of towns people wearing brand new "I Love Amersterdam", if they get hastled or worse, shot,  It will be game over for the Netherlands.  They will bring the government down, be a vocal powerhouse right next to Brussels.  Yes, they are a week late.  But the Arab Spring started with one tiny fruitseller...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:26 | 5003321 youngman
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The local townspeople have lots of new clothes.....all those suitcases do not go to waste

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:06 | 5003235 roadhazard
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The West shot down two of there own fighter jets over the same area to make the rebels look trigger happy. Putin has evidence, stay tooned.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:06 | 5003238 Canucklehead
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Why do the Dutch even bother? They are acting like a bunch of Belgians.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:12 | 5003254 ThisIsBob
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The Dutch would wiser send their troops to the three stories of the Ukranian parliament building occupied by the CIA, et al.  That might put and end to some of this.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:14 | 5003258 youngman
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The Special forces Dutch that I knew would be able to HARVEST weapons if they need too...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:04 | 5003331 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Yes but it is going to be not easy to slip away unnoticed if the seperatists/Russians posing as seperatists are good at keeping head counts, escorting people and securing the perimeters, having eyes on each other at all times, etc.

If you wanted to do something like what you suggest this is not how you would go about doing it especially considering the circumstances. Not saying it couldn't be done but it is not in the Dutch's interest to do it in this particular situation especially if they get caught.

You can get people in other ways without causing an international incident and a potential public relations disaster with the Dutch public.

I'd like to believe Rutte isn't Obama for starters.....

 

 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:05 | 5004677 piratepiet
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What do you mean by that ?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:15 | 5003264 q99x2
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Check the ground when they leave for cloven hooved footprints.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:16 | 5003266 tony wilson
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eyes am from holland edam cheese town wes calls it.

we have der best filthy sexy live fuck shows even betters dan ghent and damn.

we give you all the fucks you need in edam.

holland is flat and full of dykes but we sure can paint a dutch landscape watercolors are are specialiies.

peter van der hooker and jacob van weisel ist me favor painters

we can win a war wis der russian der eat wood chips and card board.

der dutch are built from milskchse dairy products muscles no fats.

wis good logistics we could be in moscow in 5 years tops

do not mocks der dutch man

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:30 | 5003351 Who was that ma...
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Unt, dey makes der best vooden shoos unt vindmills in der vorld.  Unt dat's no joke.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:42 | 5004860 Who was that ma...
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Unt, you vanna make fooky-fooky mit der big boobies unt der rumpy-pumpy girl, coom to Nederland.  Yah!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:22 | 5003289 dizzyfingers
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Quote: I'm extremely motivated to find out what happened, who did this," he said, "And as soon as we know, I will do everything in my power — even if it is the last thing I do in this job — to make sure we bring them to justice. Unquote

... "even if it is the last thing I do in this job" ...  is he saying someone might kill him?

 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:28 | 5003336 SpanishGoop
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Speculation on his upcoming promotion to Brussels, now confirmed.

 

 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:25 | 5003313 Who was that ma...
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Better look to East Ukraine Bros.  You might just find the smoking BUK missile launcher.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:39 | 5004847 Who was that ma...
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I mean WEST Ukraine.  W-E-S-T Ukraine.   Sheesh!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:34 | 5003366 Boogity
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It's just a cover so the Dutch pimps can bring back some more hot Russian chicks to work the Red Light districts in Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Den Haag.  They'll slip a few guilders to Willy Wonka Poroshenko and his masters in Israel to grease the skids.  The only people more "thrifty" than the Tribe are the Dutch.

Do ya'll know how a pilot can tell he's flying over Holland?   He looks down and sees the toilet paper hung out to dry.    

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:34 | 5003371 ThisIsBob
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"Unarmed?"

Bullshit, just how long do you think it would take to "arm" them.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:38 | 5003388 studfinder
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I hope they aren't wearing those wooden shoes.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:39 | 5003394 Kina
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Isn't the story now that a Su 25 took out the right engine of MH17, it made a course correction, Ukrainians panicked that is heading to where they didn't want it to crash...and so quickly finished the job with a BUK.  And is why the cockpit ended up in the wrong position to fit the Ukraine/USA official story.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:20 | 5003654 Boogity
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If it happened, it was probably one of the Ukes's handful of operational Su-27's not an Su-25.   Su-27's are fighers and have a service ceiling of ~62000 feet.  Su-25's are air-ground support with a low service ceiling of ~23000 feet.

Edit:   Interesting....   I just checked Shittypedia's page for the Ukrainian air force and the info they had yesterday about "9 operational Su-27's" has been wiped clean.... I should have done a screen capture.    This is getting really weird and perhaps a little too close for comfort. 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 10:45 | 5003418 Sick
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Where is all the expensive USA surveillance, satellite, radio, etc. data?  If it cannot be provided and be accountable it should all be ended post haste.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:32 | 5003611 ThisIsBob
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If USA data supported USA claims, you can bet it would be released. 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:02 | 5003478 alexcojones
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Some say a bomb was checked aboard at the Amsterdam airport.

Same airport the Underwear bomber was escorted aboard.

Same airport that contracts out security to an Israeli company.

Just saying.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:05 | 5003499 JohninMK
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Oooops, looks like the first US Army (feet on the ground) deaths have occured. When do we get the WH press conference?

 

Source: http://www.pravosudija.net/ article/247-mariupol-180-2-178

GROUP ADMINISTRATION NOTE: this news has not been verified

24th July, Mariupol. 180 - 2 = 178

Delegation of military advisors, which yesterday arrived from Fort Benning to Kiev, suffered casualties in Mariupol today. Two advisors have been shot dead by unidentified persons.

This news is classified and prohibited for publication in Ukraine. Unlike private military companies employees American (official state) military advisors must be provided military funeral with honors at their motherland. There are reasons to believe that in a very short period of time the police of some American town will report that two military persons have been shot in some bar by unidentified criminals.

The police will most probably forget to report the weapons, which was used to shoot them, although reworked semi-automatic Kalashnikov rifles and Dragunov sniper rifles are available for sale in American stores. Most probably death or these people will serve well for those, who struggle for restricting the sale of firearms in the USA.

After arriving to Kiev the advisors with no time lost were transported to Mariupol, where elderly Ukrainian citizens joined them to assist them in teaching the young fighters. These veterans can perfectly speak at least one foreign language, i.e. Russian. Some time ago they were a part of the military base No. 65564. This was the 10th separate special purpose brigade of then HQ GRU of the USSR armed forces.

It is curious that this by any measure very large joined team of advisors will not be training Ukrainian army, which is trained by US private military companies, it will train very strange recruits. These are the “black men” from the volunteer armed unit called Azov battalion and Kolomoisky’s mercenaries – Dnepr battalion joined with the remains of former Berkut.

Up till now I have been stating facts, now let’s talk about the first considerations coming to our mind in connection with this news. It looks like it is not only the US private military companies, but also the US Army, who are creating the warlord groups in order to make the war go on as long as it is possible.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:09 | 5003509 alexcojones
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+1 Youri,

Just saw your post.

Same scenario I read at VeteransToday.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:14 | 5003526 alexcojones
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How come in CSI Hollywood, they always crack the case?

But in CSI America they never crack the case?

"Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown," should be their motto.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:18 | 5003543 Jacksons Ghost
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The Dutch were some of the biggest collaborators in Western Europe during WWII.  Approx 200k served in the Waffen SS and they rounded up more Jews than any Western Country.  Ask Anne Frank.  To think they would be any different today is absurd.  They will comply!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:31 | 5004174 walküre
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But they sure cheered alot and put out alot of orange flags when they were liberated.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:25 | 5003581 Kina
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I can tell you the current PM of Australia Tony Abbott is one of the biggest morons and dickheads to ever be PM in Australia.

 

The troops he is sending with the police are supposed to be there to protect the police. Well I can tell this fucking idiot Abbott that these troops will not be allowed anywhere near the East Ukraine site, and especially not within sepratist areas.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:37 | 5003634 novictim
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This is it!  The invasion RT warned us about is now on the way.

And when it is all over, Russian Rebels will be smoking hookahs and doing bong hits of the freshest, sweetest hashish while waiting for hookers with funny accents to pleasure them all for a mere 99euros.

There will be no victory for Putin.  The Dutch have arrived!

The slaughter of Russian family values will be epic! 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:07 | 5003665 Boogity
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The Dutch "police" are probably going to wear high-tech codpieces, armed with NATO's mico-cruise missiles, similar to what Goldmember wore in that Austin Powers flick. 

http://static.thecia.com.au/reviews/g/goldmember-8.jpg

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:51 | 5003705 gcjohns1971
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So... There will be 40 more unarmed people to "provide security"?

Each day I grow more convinced that assertions humans are a higher primate than Chimpanzees or Gorillas are totally baseless.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:23 | 5003863 Boogity
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Putin needs to flank the SOB's and send "unarmed Russian aid workers" into Gaza.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:32 | 5003892 no1wonder
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Catastrophic Desertions and Losses in the Ukrainian Army - Official Ukrainian Reports, July 19, 2014

Report by Head of SBU, V.O. Nalyvaichenko, to the President of Ukraine, P.A. Poroshenko

An Accounting of the Losses among Ukrainian Military, the Militants and the Civilians in the Donetsk and the Lugansk regions (for the period from July 9-15, 2014)
TOTAL UKRAINIAN LOSSES

    Killed in Action: 1600
    Wounded in Action: 4723
    Tanks: 35
    Armoured Battle Vehicles: 96
    Artillery: 38
    Aircraft: 7
    Helicopters: 2
    Automobiles: 104

TOTAL MILITIA LOSSES

    Killed in Action: 48
    Wounded in Action: 64
    Tanks: 2
    Armoured Battle Vehicles: 0
    Artillery: 5
    Automobiles: 8

TOTAL CIVILIAN LOSSES

    Killed: 496
    Wounded: 762

SIGNED & SUBMITTED BY: Arsen Avakov (Minister of Interior) and V. Gritsak (Head of the ATO)

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:47 | 5003972 observer007
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MH17: where is the "mountain of evidence" - Video

 

Must SEE:

http://homment.com/mountainevi

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:49 | 5003975 idahosinker
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I think the Kiev guys had the site. Everything in the MSM is a lie. Drudge had a thing, that the Fudge Packer in Charge, is calling up the National Guard to protect  our borders.  So, the opposite is true. Is calling up the Guard so the governor can't.

Found a new site.

http://nodisinfo.com/hard-proof-staging-fake-blood-mh17-crash-hoax/

 

it sounds way out there. No plane crash. Seems crazy to me, just like the nuts that claim the towers were not brought down by planes.

If you look at the photos of the dead bodies, they appear, to violate the Newtonian Laws of physics.

When  jumping out of a 1200 ft high rise in NY, when you hit the pavement, you leave a red ink spot, you explode.

But when fall from 33,000 you land whole. The difference between jumping and falling I guess.

Your chair is hardly damaged, and your seat belt holds you in,  when you hit, ( land )on Terra Firma . 

The earth is not damaged. If you look at the Lockerbie crash site the thing left some big wholes. Almost all crash sites bury there engines in the ground. The thing is all fake.

Oh if you think there is a difference between hitting the farmers garden and the pavement in NY,

There is a body on the road the plane site. not missing anything, All whole. The one through the roof was whole.

Terminal Velocity of a sky diver is 200 mph.

 

 

The serial number on the (crashed ?) unit is RD, the one at the gate in Holland was RC. Gosh, maybe thats a clue.

The video of the Dutch customs agent, about see all those folks for there fight of death, it is real easy to see that she was lying her face off.

The Chosen People, had just bought a Malaysian 777 in Dec, and it was deliver to Tel Aviv.

So now they are down to one Malaysian 777

But you can always count on people that are raised on the Matrix box to believe anything.

 

Gaza, the Warsaw Ghetto in color.  

 

 

 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:09 | 5004357 walküre
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It didn't resemble any of the crash sites, I'd seen in the past. So many holes in the official story, so many weird and conflicting reports. Are the Dutch families contracted as actors. Someone, somewhere must resurface or their story eventually get double checked.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:29 | 5004793 Uskatex
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When you fall from 11000 mt. and are outside in the air, due to the disintegration of the plane, you totally freeze after 1-2000 meters, and when you hit the ground you are a block of ice, hence the absence of blood and the relative compactness of the bodies. 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:19 | 5004125 JR
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It’s too bad the Dutch didn’t show up at the Trade Center to oversee the lack of investigation into the debris structural steel evidence (cut up and sold for scrap and put on a slow boat to China). Or perhaps the Dutch could have helped unbury Oklahoma City bombing evidence or explain why the Murrah building's cameras were never hooked up.
Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:57 | 5004956 Perfecthedge
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Dutch PM wants to trial the "criminals who did this" back in Netherlands.

Ignorant, arrogant bastard! So, lets resume:

- Black box investigation? The Malaysians are to dumb, give it to the Brits

- Securing the crash site? Ukrainians are to dumb, send in guy from across the globe

- Bringing criminals to trial? Naaah, don't trust these dumb ignorant East Europeans, we do a better job.

The same goes on with other countries in Europe (Portugal handing out a local crime investigation - Maddie - basically to a foreign police body > stupid Brits).

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