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First Syrian Rebels, Now Hamas: Qatar Once Again Emerges As "Mystery" US-Backed Sponsor Of War
It was a little over a year ago when the "Mystery Sponsor Of Weapons And Money To Syrian Mercenary "Rebels" Was Revealed" as none other than the uber-wealthy Qatar (also known as the tiny but filthy rich state in the Persian Gulf that hosts the US Fifth fleet, better known as infinite leverage vis-a-vis the United States), which effectively had been pulling the US interventionist strings in hopes of taking out the Assad government and installing a puppet regime, one which would be helpful in facilitating the passage of a natgas pipeline beneath the country, which would then proceed into Turkey and all the way into Europe, as a means of bypassing Europe's reliance on Russia (which as recent events have shown has all the leverage when it comes to Europe). It failed.
As a result it had to redirect its puppetmastery skills elsewhere. That "elsewhere" appears to be none other than Hamas, which is now embroiled in a landwar with Israel in a conflict that has claimed the lives of over 800 people. And while we did find the revelation reported by the Times of Israel as surprising, it is certainly not shocking in a world in which moneyed interests fund militants across nations in what has become an explosion of proxy wars around the globe (see Syria, Ukraine, etc).
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, left, shakes hands with Hamas leader
Khaled Mashaal, right, as the Emir of Qatar, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, center,
looks on, after signing an agreement in Doha, Qatar, Monday, Feb 6, 2012
(photo credit: AP/Osama Faisal)
According to the TOI, Israel president Shimon Peres "accused Qatar on Wednesday of becoming “the world’s largest funder of terror” due to its financial support for Hamas in Gaza."
A spokesman for Peres would not comment on the information on which the president was basing his accusation, but Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s former security adviser said Qatar was relentlessly financing Hamas terror.
Qatar’s recently attempted to transfer funds for the salaries of Hamas civil servants in Gaza, following the formation of a Palestinian unity government, but was blocked by the United States, which pressured the Arab Bank not to process them. But former national security adviser Maj. Gen. (res) Yaakov Amidror told The Times of Israel that the emirate’s funding for the organization’s terror apparatus, including tunnel diggers and rocket launchers, has continued unabated.
“Hamas currently has two ‘true friends’ in the world: Qatar and Turkey,” Amidror said. The small Gulf state is currently Hamas’s closest ally in the Arab world, after the movement’s relations with Egypt soured following the ouster of Muslim Brotherhood president Mohammed Morsi in June 2013. Qatar, which has invested hundreds of millions of dollars in reconstruction and infrastructure projects in Gaza, is also home to the movement’s political leader Khaled Mashaal in Doha.
“The one supporting this organization financially, almost alone, is Qatar,” Amidror said.
Qatar isn’t only being accused of funneling funds to Hamas. Israel and Egypt are also blaming it for blocking Egypt’s efforts to broker a ceasefire in Gaza. On July 17, Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shukri said that Qatar and Turkey were undermining Egypt’s quiet-for-quiet ceasefire initiative, a position echoed by Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman.
Bloomberg admits as much in its latest sweep of the land:
Qatar and, to a lesser extent, Turkey are providing Hamas with alternative channels. Erdogan “has taken a very vocal and emotional pro-Palestinian line,” said Sabra. “It’s good for him domestically, but it limits his ability to play a regional diplomatic role.” After Qatari-backed rebels in Syria lost ground to the rise of more radical forces, “it’s not a surprise that they’re leaping at an opportunity to try to play this role,” said Sabra.
Israel, looking to its traditional partner Egypt, rejects mediation by Qatar and Turkey, particularly after Erdogan said Israel’s “barbarism has surpassed even Hitler’s,” according to an Israeli official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss diplomatic developments.
Hamas is looking at the prospect that Qatar would sweeten a cease-fire deal with financial aid for its Gaza government, including the salaries owed to about 30,000 employees, Elmenshawy said.
Israel also has objections against the Qatar-backed news channel Al Jazeera, whom it has accused of spreading "incitement against the state of Israel":
Another aspect of Qatar’s destructive influence, Israel believes, is state-backed news channel Al-Jazeera. Communications Minister Gilad Erdan requested of the Cable and Satellite Broadcasting Council this week that it stop broadcasting Al-Jazeera due to its “extremely severe incitement against the State of Israel as well as enthusiastic support for Hamas and its terrorist actions.” Liberman said his ministry was examining the possibility of shutting Al-Jazeera’s offices in Israel, Israeli news site Walla reported.
In the meantime, the diplomatic tensions as a result of the US breakdown of influence in the mid-east have managed to drag even largely netural regional superpowers as Saudi Arabia and the UAE into a conflict:
A diplomatic tug of war has been underway in the Arab Gulf between Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates — both staunch supporters of the new Egyptian regime — on the one side and Qatar on the other. On Tuesday, Qatari emir Tamim bin Hamad arrived in Jedda, Saudi Arabia, to discuss the Palestinian situation with Saudi King Abdullah. No details of the meeting were immediately available.
And so on. The problem as we showed last week with the following chart, is that international relations in the middle east are so complicated, virtually everyone hates, if not is engaged in outright conflict with everyone else.
So while the grand vision that US-backed Qatar (and hence Hamas) has in the middle east is still unclear, what is even more confusing is just what its energy intentions are (because in the middle east it is all about energy trading and/or the Petrodollar until its replacement with some other reserve currency of course) with Hamas, and Gaza are: after all the sliver of land is landlocked on the east by Israel and shares a small border with Egypt on the south: an Egypt whose allegiance so far lies with Israel, and thus will hardly assist Gaza in any capacity.
We hope to find out more clues about what quite confounding chessgame Qatar is playing shortly.
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Dow's off 150. I'm not buying until I see the ZH article about it. Then I'll know it's time to BTFD.
Cellphone Video Documents Israeli Sniper Executing Wounded Civilian In Gaza
I wonder what Bandar Bush is doing these days since his unemployment began?
The ME is like that in the present context just wait 'till the enhanced oil recovery breaks down.
This is bullshit. Qatar is not helping Hamas. You believe the Times of Israel? Good for you.
The action by Hamas against Israel seems to be harming Hamas (or at least the people around them) about 100 times more than Israel, so you are correct in saying Qatar is not helping them, but could be using them like a puppet.
funny, i see it the opposite way. Israel's true nature has been fully exposed on the global stage. Not only that, but anyone paying attention can now see that in certain cases, their governments, like the U.S., are owned by Israeli money and influence.
As for as Qatar is concerned, like SA, it is just a puppet state... and like SA, looks like its time to get thrown under the bus.
Qatar... The national boundaries were not established until after the discovery of oil.... Oil concessions were the reason the British had to 'give sovereignty' to Qatar in the first place.
Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, sponsor pretty much all the terrorism in the Middle East, let alone the world.
A perfect example of drawing some lines in the sand, and thereby separating the largest concentrations of populations in the area, from the largest concentrations of OIL AND GAS.
Bahrain
Qatar
Kuwait
Where do the people live? A lot of them in Yemen, alot in Arabia (which is about the only one to have significant pop. and resources). Of course these lands were unified with Turkey and Egypt not long ago, which reduces the amount of 'related parties' to the resources quite significantly.
America needs to get out of the Middle East. Our departure is right around the corner. Bitches.
"A perfect example of drawing some lines in the sand, and thereby separating the largest concentrations of populations in the area, from the largest concentrations of OIL AND GAS."
Interestingly, can you guess where another of the large sources of natural gas is, trillion cubic feet?
"It turns out that Gaza has quite a bit of natural gas on its coastline. One of the largest sources in the region. British Gas, which holds a joint exploration agreement for the area estimates that the fields hold at least 1 trillion cubic feet of gas. That gas belongs to the Palestinian people and they should be the ones to benefit from it. Israel disagrees.
(An interesting side story on this issue: At one point Russia was bidding for a chance to develop Gaza's gas fields.)
After the death of Yasser Arafat, under questionable circumstances, Israel has controlled those fields, and British Gas has negotiated with Tel Aviv.
With power divided between the Palestinian Authority and Hamas, the Palestinians have been too weak to put up any meaningful ,resistance and Israel would like to keep it that way. The Unity Government between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority threatens Israel's control of those fields, and as such it has to be destroyed."
The Gaza Bombardment - What You're Not Being ToldHmm, terrorists seem to always be real close to natural resources. I'm sure its a coincidence.
john39 funny, i see it the opposite way. Israel's true nature has been fully exposed on the global stage. Not only that, but anyone paying attention can now see that in certain cases, their governments, like the U.S., are owned by Israeli money and influence.
As for as Qatar is concerned, like SA, it is just a puppet state... and like SA, looks like its time to get thrown under the bus.
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So Qatar is Isreali money. You are funny. So let's take your anti semitic logic to its final conclusion. ALL money and influence is evil Israeli. Thus YOU and your money is Israeli and YOU are evil too.
Last I checked, I don't print fiat money. Nor do I directly or indirectly control any central bank. The state of Israel was created by central bankers. Now, you were saying?
The Mossad obviously paying "john39" full time wages to make Palestinian supporters look completely unhinged
We can criticize Russia, or the US, or Iran, or fucking Switzerland... and no one claims that such criticism is racism or hate.
It must be wonderful to simply dismiss all criticism of a single country as "hate" -that way, you never have to spend any time wondering if that state might be in the wrong...because of its racial composition... which, to employ actual semantic (not "semitic") logic - makes you the fucking racist.
Or is it Jewish Supremacist?
Whatever is going on, that Emir is one ugly dude. Looks like a villian from a Hollywood comedy.
Sheikh Hamad abdicated last year, if I recall the time correctly, in favor of his son. The current Emir Tamim is not too bad - probably taking from his mother, Sheikha Moza, who is a stunning woman - both in her appearance and in her work.
Day_Of_The_Tentacle,
And you made your statement based on what?
The point is Israel’s primary objective is to get Hamas so identified that it can then imprison what’s left of the Palestinians and move them out without any opposition. “Bring back Arafat,” they scream; “We need a peaceful guy we can roll. Buy him something and keep rolling.”
The news is the Palestinians have found somebody that doesn’t give up and that somebody is Hamas.
Since 1947, this is the first time the People of Palestine can say we’ve got somebody that Israel and the US and the UK can’t compromise.
Your seven up-arrows just prove that the Jews have the largest and most extensive propagnanda machine in history.
Hard to see a motive for the Qataris, unless its spite at the Saudis.
There is a whole level of inter tribal hatred within the various Muslim
sects,let alone countries , that westerners know ,or care little about.
Sunnis, and Shiite, sometime combine forces against a certain tribe from either sect.
"There is a whole level of inter tribal hatred within the various Muslim sects"
That's the nice thing about the Christians, the various sects all get along...
Seer, I dare you to spend more than 15 minutes reading about Nigerian politics, and get back to me if your head doesn't explode.
Completely tribal.
My point was the tribal hatreds far surpass the sect ones when the chips are down,
I never saw any open sect hatreds in years living ,and doing business in the ME.
The occaisional snyde comment, but I say worse about my neighbours.
But tribal animus was evident, and open.You never know who fucked over someones
great ,great etc.etc. grandfather.Its never forgotten either.
Hamas is zionist created and supported morsi in egypt and the rebels in syria. They are useful idiots in th3irnown peoples' destruction. This story is hard to not believe.
hamas does appear to possibly be a strawman.
My guess is BB is spending more time on Cote d zure.The business has significantly picked up with escort services and exotic dancing clubs.
That's him with groucho glasses on isn't it?
That video is obviously staged. The man hadly flinched or reacted in pain when he was shot. Hamas are not only inept with their missiles, but terrible actors as well.
sarc for those less equipped w/ s-dar
Qatar payroller reported.
Evidence that the Palestinians lack normal "fight or flight" capability: why else would they not move somewhere else with their children when armed thugs-USA/MIC supplied IDF assholes are shooting at them?
Yeah I understand that Gaza is small, but the scum sucking IDF do not have the entire city surrounded, so I think it is not a stretch that a normal person would take their family at least a few blocks away so as to not allow the fuck heads from Israel to shoot them.
Now if you have missles in your living quarters: the shit head IDF will fire upon that area and once again a normal person would not let their love ones stick around that place.
Cleary the Palestinians lack normal "fight or flight" and any asshole who lets his child(ren) stay in a combat zone (fight) is responsible for their death cause they could have ran away(flight).
13,069 people per square mile is the population density of Gaza. It is the most densely populated place on Earth. The population in 2014 is expected to grow over 2%. Right or wrong, good or bad, sane or insane, where can they go and be safe?
Sad indeed, too many missed shots. Perhaps the soldier thought the pal was activating a device with that iphone. And exactly what was that young man up to anyway, looking for his puppy?
Not calling for an ambulance?
Or maybe the coward IDF sniper is just an actual racist cunt psychopath who thinks non-Jews are less worthy of life?
Is there any chance, if I did a web search of comments from prominent Zionists and Israeli rabbis or Jewish texts I might find a line or two that could be "taken out of context" by some Jewish soldier, dozens or hundreds of yards away from an unarmed, injured man, that might make him murder that person out of some fucked up religious zeal?
Naah, couldn't be, right??
VIDEO: Israeli Sniper Executes Innocent Palestinian In Devastated Gaza
Good luck with ISIS fucktards.......
So this means the NWO, Pentagram flying Zio-Yids control Qatar too?
Who knew!
Or, maybe it's just the smart-n-savvy people cooperating to the screw the dumbasses for fun-n-profit. Kinda how things work here; and every place else on the planet.
The trick is to keep 'em more or less even, and fighting each other. That way, the little ones don't get squished and the big ones don't merge up and attack the "developed" world... notice that ISIS has a solid row of red dots in that chart. Hmmm.
so many spinning plates, and so few clowns
It's the more animalistic screwing the more human.
Happens worldwide because savagery and humaneness are tails on a bell curve of man's traits.
Let ISIS take over lots of territory and get all Badass. Then Iran will get all whooooaaa and then The Saudis will go like duuude and then the Syrians will say woww brrraaa this is sooo wow and then the whole place just freaks out and war rages on for years. Muz on Muz, sunni on shia, Fuckin beautiful!
Let them direct their unrequited hatred on each other for a while, culling the herd as a bonus, keeps 'em off of our ass and Israels too!
We close all ME Mil bases and get the hell out, well of course we sell both sides lots of weapons, duhhh, we can't leave them defenseless!
I'ts a Good thing the US is now the worlds largest oil and natural gas producer as Oil from the gulf may slow to a trickle for a while...
quick take their natural gas..bring democracy there
how qatar is sleeping at night letting their palestinian brothers get murdered?
part of the jewish zion way is to fund all sides including hamas
these mi6 mossad run actors are just a front for the zionist puppet masters
tony wilson part of the jewish zion way is to fund all sides including hamas
these mi6 mossad run actors are just a front for the zionist puppet masters
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And to take your point to its logical conclusion. Since the Israeli's own the banking system and currency that YOU use, that means that YOU, tony wilson are part fo the zionist evil ways. Those evil Jews have funded you.
i am jewish
my dad is a banker
my brother is a mossad
i make love with my circumscribed penis i use a sheet with a hole in it.
i am a guilty zionist with self hate issues
i am dislaxics
It seems very, uh, crowded in your mind tony, just sayin'.
PS: Can I buy some pot from you? Animal house
Or Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Hezbolla, Iran, Jordan. Even the Palestinian Authority think they are morons.
Hamass is out of friends.
The palestinians are the equivalent to "those people" in the US. There's always "those people" to piss on, in every society.
I don't know how you could ever consider billionaires and the down-trodden masses to be brothers. You're focusing on the wrong type of family. Isn't Qatar itself basically a slave state?
how qatar is sleeping at night letting their palestinian brothers get murdered?
Hydrocarbon extraction and the selling of it is really profitable. Qatars are sleeping in nice beds and the elite are doing it in 5 star hotels in Europe. Although I heard that the room service is sometimes rather slow. And at times the pool and spa are not that clean.
I have heard it said:
"Palestinans are the Nigger of the world."
And this is where FIFA want to stage the 2022 World Cup?
Everything will be peaceful by 2022. Next election, we'll have an entirely NEW state-department and then we'll see peace break-out throughout the entire world.
Perhaps, by then, the radiation-enhanced soccer fields will make it easier to watch the games at night.
FIFA members were paid off to select Qatar for the 2022 World Cup. Case in point: One of FIFA's voting executive committee members when Qatar won the right to host the 2022 World Cup in December 2010 is none other than German Franz Beckenbauer. FIFA recently suspended Beckenbauer for his refusal to take part in an investigation into the Qatar 2022 World Cup bid. He refused in-person interview requests, as well as written questions provided in both English and German.
Since we seem to be in the midst an ongoing outbreak of every other nasty disease in some corner of the world- when is MERS going to step up the plate?
It's not like wealthy Arabs who impersonate Uncle Sam by financing wars abroad don't maintain large stables of MERS-infected camels.
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(EDIT: too nasty)
Is that any more outrageous than the US support, financial/economic/military, of Israel? Not to mention the dominance of the Israeli narrative on the MSM.
After the Israeli Zionists thank Qatar for bankrolling Sunni Hamas
which provides the fig leaf excuse for "Greater Israel Expansionism",
they will publicly be shocked, shocked I say, if not red-in-the-face outraged.
Equally shocked, I daresay, as are US empire-builders at their Saudi helpmates
for funding AlQaeda as excuse for the Pentagon pseudo "war on terror".
Though also helpful, the CIA-driven "war on drugs" never generated enough hysterical panache.
the jewish house of saud and these oriental jewish apes in qatar have to go i tell ya.
they have to go to fucking hell and join satan.
these people are a cancer virus on humanity
Yeah, the inferior losers who don't understand what the game is about always bitch about losing.
MOOOOOMMMMM, billy's not playing by the RULES AGAIN, MOMMMMMMM?
evil is only a game to a certain type... evil. when the music stops, you are going to love your prize.
Morals are for children to be manipulated with. The adults live duplicitous lives. Some people never grow up tho.
The secret to happiness is self-delusion, the secret to success is duplicity. Look around, see who'd DNA bling is going to run the NEXT generation.
the psychopaths are out in force these days.
When haven't they been?
I think that they are created via the power that is GIVEN to them.
No sociopath has ever successfully been rehabilitated.
They actually learn more manipulative techniques, when you 'counsel' them.
exactly. only change during the last century, or two. is that they have been messing with peoples minds by planting some strange idea such as democracy to plebs' heads which is an illusion they fully control.
wake the fuck up. civilisation is the system and the culture is their control grid. you'll never be free unless you step outside the boundaries, just to find out that you can't escape human nature, because there will always be corrupt where there is prosperity brought by the liberty.
but that's okay. life is supposed to be a constant fight because this is how nature works. nothing is for free and anything not worth fighting for just isn't worth anything.
Not sure why you're being down-voted. Pretty much the reality of things... I suspect that it is your delivery that people have issues with?
Yeah, had to read it twice, but I don’t get the downs
Addendum: just read comment from Cacete de Ouro, now I get it – oh wait…
"The secret to happiness is self-delusion, the secret to success is duplicity.
To a psychopath, this statement will appear to be true. That is part of the definition of psychopathy.
Unfortunately, US Corporate, Public Policy, Government, Military and Academic culture rewards (and so encourages) psychopathy.
100% true.
Interesting study I read, suggested if you have a sociopathic mother, there is a good chance you will inherit it. Can you think of any ethnicities out there that specify the importance of your mother's ethnicity (hint: if your mother isn't Jewish, you aren't considered Jewish).
Its called 'political ponerology' (i.e. the study of evil).
http://www.ponerology.com/
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.560128
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131119/ncomms3739/full/ncomms3739.html
I'm waiting to hear what Josh Earnestly has to say about things.
Reminds me of a song by John Cougar Mellenhead:
You may drive around in your town
Ina brand new shiny car
Your face in the wind your haircut's in
And your friends think you're bizarre
You may find a cushy job and I hope that you go far
But if you really want to taste some cool success
You better learn to play Qatar...
HA!!! +100. THAT made me laugh!
Qatar bribed FIFA to host the World Cup there.
Fuck Qatar. Fuck the NWO.
Like 3D chess
On steroids
With checkers playing Obama and his equine friend dropping in for occasional visits, between vacations
WTF to people continue to BELIEVE that POTUS pulls the strings or that Obama (or whatever POTUS-sitter) is stupid?
Look around. Do you see the bankers being hung? Do you see the financial system collapsing? Do you see the MIC struggling?
The USD died back in 1971 and the US has managed to stay on top.
It's a big mistake to think that the clowns that you see in the Ring are running the business in back of the tent... (but the ignorant and the Party Pussies tend to do that)
The Ottoman Empire was kept on life support for more than 70 years, by its allies Great Britain and France, as they drew up plans for partitioning it among themselves (and none for Russia, thank you very much)
Agreed. The only thing I find interesting is that during the eight years of the Bush administration I can not recall any of his critics claiming that he was just a puppet.</p><P>
Hell, remember when some dumb-ass junior enlisted treated prisoners in Abu Graib detention facility like crap? The media screamed that he and his cabinet were directly responsible. I am not defending the cruel treatment that went one, but if during the previous administration the POTUS was responsible for the actions of a some privates and not a puppet why are so many now claiming that the TOTUS in the WH today is nothing more than a “clerk”?</p><P>
Lets try this; the previous administration was responsible for actions it took and the current administration is responsible for the actions it has done or not done.</p><P>
And blaming the guy before you is not taking charge. How many times did Bush blame the Clinton team for allowing Jihadist to train in the US for over a year in preparation for 9/11? I can guarantee if an attack happens in the next 2 1/2 years in the USA Barrracky will find something Bush did to blame it on.</p>
fx...
"during the eight years of the Bush administration I can not recall any of his critics claiming that he was just a puppet."
huh?
You apparently missed a LOT of the criticism.
Many argued GWB worked as a front man for the neoCON cabal around Cheney,
and/or that he was a servant of Big Oil,
and/or, fronted for a Skull & Bones oligarchy.
ground invasion bitchez!
MENA = QUAGMIRE
Will the Israelis/Americans get their story straight?
Netanyahu and his proconsul Obama, always declared that Hamas was being financed, armed by evil Iran.
Now that Israelis are worried about ISIS and may need the help of Iran, they now shift the blame unto Turkey/Quatar.
Shameless. Who believes all this malarkey?
Re: Who believes all this malarkey?
It's been going on for 50+ years now. Apparently the dumbasses in the US seem to believe it. You can lead a dumbass to knowledge, but ya can't make 'em think.
Be skeptical of EVERYTHING without hard evidence if any sort of politics is involved. Do I believe that Qatar would do something like this? Yes. Am I convinced that they did? No. It is merely plausible.
Story has to change because Qatar is looking, along with everyone else, to drop the petro-dollar?
The ole cyclone of violence. What could better suit the inoculated rich?
The first thing the US citizen should do is kick Qatar out of the NHRA.
http://alanabiracing.com/al-anabi-racing
I thought Israel was financing Hamas?
They helped found Hamas.
Once Hamas took its first baby-steps and fastened its teeth onto the neck of Gazans, Israel's job was done - they'd created a 'terrorist' Islamist government to rival and weaken corrupt Arafat's bunch and that would foil any genuine peace initiatives while the Zionists quietly continue stealing Arab land.
it is very simple who is providing security and stability for qatar and the house of saud.
why very little cia,mi6 and mossad kaos when the war criminal zionist cunt in israel peres talks of qatar it is just scripted chatham house bollocks.
qatar and the saudis are the yids go to cash bagmen for death operations they provide the loot not the ideas.
ever read a play script written by an ape?
the jews and the brits understand the structure of the theatrical play
we control 60 percent of the relationship.we influence one hundred percent of it init
Chatham House. Now that's one swell location old boy. Couldn't get better in my view, except maybe Carlton Gardens. How do they fit in all those books next door? Who knows. This is the number 10 that does the business. Downing St is a side-show.
2 Red Lions and a Golden Lion, and if you're feeling flush, Dukes or the American Bar. Jacket required.
Yes, why own 100%, when you can gain 100% control with 51% ownership?
This and other leverage tricks (like having your friends in charge of all the banks, who in turn can conjure money into existence) gave us the 'modern world' as we know it.
Poor ISIS no friends BAR USSA
The diagram shows Iran and Turkey as enemies, but doesn't Turkey rely on Iran for oil, and buy it with gold, using Dubai as the middleman? Or have things changed that much in the last couple months?
And what's this bullshit about Iran and Al-Qaeda having a 'it's complicated' relationship? The former are Shiite, the latter Sunni. 'nuff said.
I thought the U.S. used Al-Qaeda as proxies in Libya and Syria and against its own people through the TSA. Should we change that relationship from enemies to it's complicated?
Really.. Saudi Arabia isn't on good terms with ISIS and al-Qaida..
You have got to be fucking kidding me.
Yes, they are not ... in fantasy world. There are only two POWERs in the world, US and Russia.
This is EXACTLY like the recent film "Grudge Match" where two geriatric assholes keep trying to relive 30-year-old glories and grudges.
And we're supposed to buy their bullshit.
And no, I am neither fucking nor kidding you.
"There are only two POWERs in the world, US and Russia. "
SOMEONE who gets it!
And now, class, why is it that the US and Russia hold this top position?
Hint: has something to do with physical resources. And, keep in mind that ALL wars are about resources.
And now, class, why is it that the US and Russia hold this top position?
Hint: has something to do with physical resources. And, keep in mind that ALL wars are about resources.
Maybe.. and maybe not. What about China? And what about Israel, which has nukes and probably the 3rd or 4th most powerful military in the world? It has fuck all resources... except the US taxpayer to parasitise off.
Please stop deviating from the official narrative, or you'll be sent to a special camp for remedial indoctrination.
"And, keep in mind that ALL wars are about resources."
pause for a second and think about it. why do they (rulers) need physical resources? for their own use? don't think so. and don't start with the for the good of the people or the country.
it's just a means to an end. physical resources are only good for controlling human resources or at least to keep them in line. it's all about power lust. they just want to rule.
ergo, all wars are about control (of populace).
These are the same cunts who are going to hold the World Cup.
GO LONG on Plutonium centerfuges.
My household can get through a year or two of Nuclear winter.
How about you?
"My household can get through a year or two of Nuclear winter."
Assumes that it gets through the initial bomb blasts...
If you're going to all that trouble, why not move somewhere safer that is not on the intercontinental ballistic missile map, like deepest Sth America for example ?
Why do the Bushes have a ranch in Paraguay?
FYI,
This is a Russian propaganda line that became popular in Russia about three months ago...
... That islamic radicals were invented by Washington (which makes the US responsible for Chechnya), that the Saudi's and Qatari have no interests of their own, and would NEVER, EVER, see an interest in re-establishing the Caliphate, but onlly contribute to that end at Washington's direction.
There's a leak in my roof.
The CIA must have put it there.
OUT-OF-THEIR-FUCKING-MINDS
WTF is this Caliphate???? Some mythical time when Muslims all got along? That was a seriously long time ago. I'm not worried. Whatsoever.
Pretty much fact that the CIA helped incite those "radicals," and that, in FACT, much of this had to do with keeping with The Grand Chessboard theory of controlling Eurasia. Kick the Russians out of Afghanistan AND continue to push the rebels into Russia's periphery as an attack on Russia (which at the time was communist- more so about being in control of resources than in "killing commies").
what is the sas
what is it's role
who is frank kitson
who is and was david sterling
The Mayfair Set episode 1- Who Pays Winshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=234H8X1-JiA
This whole line of propaganda was thought up by middle aged assholes, who rarely reproduced, and now want to send their few adult children to fight and die so that they can relive their 'glory days' vicariously.
Typical Baby Boomer shit. International style.
OPEC cartel rag heads are getting worried about the US petrodollar. The free gravy train could cause future derailment in secured US Oil agreements.
Yes.
It's the petro-dollar connection. And it's possible that Qatar was talking about stepping away and that the US (with its good "friend" Israel) is taking action.
U.S. has provided protection for these and other pretro-dollar collaborators. Pretty sure that Qatar is seeing the cracks in the protective armor and that it has to figure out how its going to find some other protector for its wealthy elite.
This is all the big push to control the decline of oil...
the only way to deal with the bankerz ballet is don't play
There is no such law that world must have an world currency.
If USD collapses, it does not mean that some other currency will replace it.
World will simply go barter as in the 1930s.
Bilateral trade agreements.
correct
No need to, re-coin currency. In today's terms, we have a currency counterfeiter cornering the market. It’s called the Federal Reserve. Derivatives are the foundation for zero backed paper promises.
"It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life, or death...it shall be death"
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Qatar helping to instigate this is possible, not definite just possible.
You have to consider that someone is paying Hamas leadership to fight this war cuz otherwise, it don't make sense. Egypt is against Hamas and for Israel, that's the biggest deal right now simply because they can't rearm without the tunnels on the Egypt side. Syria is out, they're busy. Iraq is obviously busy with ISIS doing real genocide and ethnic cleansing in MOSUL, Lebanon/Hez busy in Syria so there's only so many actors in this one that Israel has to worry about.
At the very core, ALL WARS ARE ABOUT RESOURCES. When one gets down to looking at things from this basis then things are MUCH clearer.
"ALL WARS ARE ABOUT RESOURCES"
Which resources were the crusades fought over?
The Falklands have what resources?
I'm sure many wars are about resources, but some wars happen over worthless rocks for ideology, religion, whatever.
There are an estimated 60 billion barrels of oil around the Falklands basin worth $167 billion dollars in royalties and taxes for the Falklands' government which will receive 26 percent of the profits from companies drilling for oil and nine percent royalties on every barrel sold, according to U.K.-based Edison Investment Research.
Oil Companies Undeterred
Indeed, after finding oil in 2010, the oil company Rockhopper Exploration, teamed with Premier Oil in a 600 million pound ($900 million) deal to drill the Sea Lion oilfield in the Falklands north basin, estimated to hold around 300 million barrels of oil worth more than $30 billion.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100537413#.
June 4, 2014
(Reuters) - Energy companies active in the Falkland Islands have leased a rig for their 2015 drilling programme, paving the way for oil and gas exploration to continue next year in the region contested by Britain and Argentina.
London-listed Premier Oil said it had contracted the rig to drill a minimum of four wells in the North Falkland Basin with partner Rockhopper.
Cyprus-based Ocean Rig UDW said it had signed a leasing contract for its Eirik Raude drilling rig to be deployed in waters off the Falklands for around 260 days.
BY THE WAY:
LAS MALVINAS SON FUCKING ARGENTINAS CARAJO.
The Falklands war was ~30 years ago, before the oil was found.
imagine a kingdom, with all the wealth, land and resources, but with no people. only a king. it's pointless, wouldn't you agree?
human life gets meaning through relations(hips). and for some the only meaning is dominance, which can't happen over inanimate objects. one needs another to reflect upon one's power and success because everything is relative.
so, crusades where fought over human resources.
when for the ruler reigning over it's own subjects is not enough, then they want to rule over other rulers. after that they have only left to rule over other's god or gods. crusaders were the ultimate psychopaths.
At a time when America’s standard of living should be at the highest in history, the peoples’ resources are being stolen and transferred to international bankers and to Middle Eastern wars against the enemies of the State of Israel.
Americans are being destroyed in a manner different from the Palestinians, but we are being destroyed.
The point is, there is no established motive for Qatar’s support of Hamas, making it extremely misleading to jump to the conclusion that Hamas is working with the United States to provide the above Israeli scenario.
The worldwide propaganda effort from Israel and the Zionists in the United States, perhaps the most extensive and expensive campaign ever waged, has its primary objective to separate Hamas from the Palestinians. The same effort has separated the American people from the Tea Party.
Not covered by most US media outlets was the extensive protest in the West Bank up against the Israeli-guarded wall to Jerusalem where six Palestinian protesters were killed. The significance of these rising tensions of all Palestinians, including the West Bank, is not some sort of Israeli-US trick. Instead, this is a people crying out for what America’s Founders wanted so desperately: self-determination.
The Palestinians want their land back, their freedom back, their opportunities back; and the greatest military machine in the history of the world is trying to beat them to death. We need to be clear: soldiers are killing women in the streets and the American government is providing 100 percent support.
I’m getting tired of these made-up motives. These people are fighting for their freedom - 1.8 million residents compressed into 2,400-square-mile prison, 80 per of them refugees in their own country and half of them children. This Israeli-US siege is intolerable; it’s time to stop pretending there is any parity between Hamas stones and primitive rockets and the Israeli-US war machine.
You see, JR, the problem isn't the genocide or destruction of Gaza.
Its that the participants, the Gazans, are being poor sports. They are complaining about their people being killed, women, children, civilians, all innocents, they would have us believe (I am trying my sarcastic best) and doing their meagre best to fight back.
Its just not cricket. They are setting a bad example for other oppressed serfs, worldwide.
Your logic is Orwellian, HR. It is unbelievable that we have come so soon to "1984." In fact, the massive Israeli propaganda has a more striking similarity to Orwell's "Animal Farm" where the animals were constantly criticized for trying to believe their own eyes in the face of the tyranical pigs.
The new propaganda media technique is to portray the victims as guilty of the violence – and the perpetrators of the violence as the innocents. And then justice will be served.
When Israel bombs and Hamas throws a stone or shoots a primitive rocket to fight back, suddenly Israel is the victim and Hamas is the attacker. But the expansion of Israel into almost all Palestinian territory tells the story. In short, with a biased, Jewish-controlled media there can be no level media playing-field, no facts can be uncovered. In the current western media climate, the Israeli-American Empire, backed by its EU operatives, sets the tone, pounds the lie and never backs down. As in "Animal Farm," Diane Feinstein squeals: “Putin, you have to man up.”
Ten years ago, the people of Gaza could have gone in a completely different direction but they didn't. When Israel left, they still chose to fight, they chose not to recognize Israel. No one told them to build 30 concrete tunnels miles long so they could attack Israeli soldiers. That's a lot of apartment buildings or schools not built.
Because of Israeli propaganda supported by Israeli media the parity between Israel and Hamas is always skewed as in your post. Take the current discussions for a ceasefire; where Israel would be anxious to agree but the evil Hamas would not, electing to keep fighting. But when one looks closely one sees the likely provisions of the ceasefire provision: IDF could remain in place, continuing its bombing and violent attacks on tunnels and Hamas would stop all rocket attacks.
In other words, a one-sided ceasefire. Also, with every agreement Hamas is asked to make, the border exits just get more limited and more draconian. What kind of cowed people wouldn’t try to tunnel out of an imposed prison where their families are tormented and starving, and being killed?
By the way, in the first 3 months after the November 2012 ceasefire, not one rocket came out of Gaza but Israel bombed Gaza dozens of times killing and injuring dozens of people.
"Animal Farm" as in the US for 9/11, i.e.-
"At a time when America’s standard of living should be at the highest in history"
Based on what?
Entropy.
Chickens coming home to roost.
Did you think that the growth party, the one enjoyed on the backs of much of the rest of the world, could go on forever?
The US essentially declared BANKRUPTCY in 1971. 1971 was THE PEAK. Since 1971 everything has been pure fabrication, games with paper- "wealth" was but an ILLUSION!
"Americans are being destroyed in a manner different from the Palestinians, but we are being destroyed."
I wish people would quite playing the part of the victim.
There is in INTENTIONAL smashing of the "status quo." The status quo is how those in power STAY in power.
The human growth game is coming to a close. This is a global event; no more can we hide the reality that we cannot operate under the premise of perpetual growth. Those doomed to repeat the failures will blame others: it's THE SYSTEM!
At this point, denying how America’s great achievements and promising potential has been stolen and bulldozed by international bankers and corporate operatives is to side with the oligarchs and suggest that it’s just America's fate and how could we hope to do any better.
America’s resources would have been used up and destroyed long ago if it hadn’t been for the incredible free enterprise road we were on from our constitutional right to individual freedom.
Perhaps you remember that the United States developed such a spectacular economic model that it literally lifted most of the peoples of the world who were willing to work with us (without America the world would be in mud)?
The Founders’ freedom-light touched the whole world. Now it appears that world is willing to bury the torch. Are these new financial power centers of the world--Beijing, Tokyo, Dubai, Hong Kong, Moscow, Tel Aviv, Brussels -- these new Americas, the new centers of freedom? No. If America’s light is dimmed by the international globalists at the Fed, the world will have to take its chances with a billion rooms of darkness.
Rose Wilder Lane’s final point in The Discovery of Freedom: Only a fool would believe the world…under the criminal greed of dictators…could not return to a world of wagon wheels and open fire cooking for the bulk of mankind.
As Lane said:
“The free exercise of natural human rights creates this New World. Stop this exercise of human rights, shed individual responsibility and individual freedom, submit to ‘control’ of ordinary human affairs, and this whole new world of economic abundance, this unprecedented wealth of food, shelter, health, knowledge, comforts, luxuries, pleasures, this young world of swift transportation, this dynamic complex of productive human energies encircling the whole planet, can no longer be improved, then no longer be created, then no longer exist.”
Bolivia has just lowered its working age to 10.
Their freedom? Heck, they could have recognized Israel and had their freedom so freedom apparently isn't the objective. As for being compressed, two generations in a row having an average of six kids per couple is the cause of that. Don't blame Israel for their record child-bearing ways. Japanese don't have six kids per couple, the Russians don't but they do.
As for going back home, valid point. First there's peace. Then you can have talk about reparations or compensation or reclamation but not while there's a war or no recognition.
Recognize Israel? I think you mean recognize Israel's dominance, Israel's continuing settlements, Israel's aparteid over Arabs who are permitted to work but most not to live in Israel, Israel's goal of annexing the West Bank and, of course, pushing the people of Gaza into a smaller and smaller fenced-in enclave. That's what it means to recognize Israel's right to exist. It means repatriating the indigeous peoples and ethnic cleansing.
And, btw, Israel's quest for a Greater Israel spans "from the Nile to the Euphrates," according to the founding father of Zionism, Theodore Herzl, which includes parts of Syria and Lebanon.
So now the Zionists think they have the right to control how many children the average Palestinian family has? Is that the Zionist party line now -- excess Palestinian children must be culled (killed)?
What do you think the Zionist response would be to Palestinians controlling the number of children they have? Some of the more reactionary Zionists have many children.
The Zionists have always had a policy of importing and otherwise creating more Zionists in Palestine so they can obtain and keep political control of Palestine.
…Israel's annual population growth rate stood at 1.9% in 2013, three times faster than the OECD average of around 0.6%.[3] With an average of 3 children per woman, Israel also has the highest fertility rate in the OECD by a considerable margin, and much higher than the OECD average of 1.7[4
More Wiki facts...
…Israel conquered the territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the Six Day War of 1967.
…In 1980, Israel officially annexed East Jerusalem and considers the whole of Jerusalem to be its capital. The annexation was condemned internationally and declared "null and void" by the United Nations Security Council.
…The West Bank and the Gaza Strip are still considered to be occupied by Israel according to the international community.[10
…Many Israelis[who?] object to the term "Occupied Palestinian Territories" and similar descriptions because they maintain such designations disregard Israeli claims to the West Bank and Gaza, or prejudice negotiations involving possible border changes, arguing that the armistice line agreed to after the 1948 Arab-Israeli War was not intended as a permanent border. Dore Gold wrote, "It would be far more accurate to describe the West Bank and Gaza Strip as "disputed territories" to which both Israelis and Palestinians have claims."[37]
…Israel has denied that it occupies the Gaza Strip, but three of the borders of the Gaza Strip, the coast and airspace, are controlled by Israel.[47][48] The UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967 stated in 2007:
"Israel remains an occupying Power in respect of Gaza. Arguments that Israel ceased its occupation of Gaza in 2005 following the evacuation of its settlements and the withdrawal of its troops take no account of the fact that Israel retains effective control over Gaza by means of its control over Gaza’s external borders, airspace, territorial waters, population registry, tax revenues and governmental functions. The effectiveness of this control is emphasized by regular military incursions and rocket attacks."[49]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_territories
I guess they have so many children to avoid extermination 'cause Israel kills them often and indiscriminately.
Google "Hornets Nest"
a plan by israeli intelligence to completely dismember and reconfigure the mideast according to their wishes. along with US backing.
any utterances by Kerry or anyone else about not supporting israel are disinformation. not that I care, really. but it goes to show there are powers behind the throne and they run the show.
Where you from? Maybe you ought to go back to where you came from unless you're Navajo, Cherokee, Seminole, Creek etc. No statute of limitations on dispossession of nnative people. Arabs can live in 57 or more countries, and speak the same language and have same religion. Jews, one $#!T hole 8000 square miles.
Don't the Palis know they're supposed to walk quietly into the ovens?
I was on the floor laughing about Mark Zuckerberg being the richest man in the world. Sure, only on paper.
Has he fully paid off his debt obligations to declare full ownership to being 1.6 billion dollars rich or is it just a paper shuffle to WOW the public? Lastly, when the stock takes a nosedive; that number will just be a thing of the past. Ask Bill Gates and others during DotCom bubble.
Maybe it's time for Zuckerberg to call Stanley Fischer at the Fed for a fiat money transfusion. Or better yet, he could ask his new Facebook sales executive, David Fischer, to speak with his father, Stanley.
I just checked this, and what I found was very disturbing.
Yes, Stanley Fischer (Fed vice chair or whatever, former head of Israeli CB) is the father of David Fischer.
And a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a Bilderberger.
These freaking people run the planet.
Uh, Fifth Fleet is in Bahrain...close enough I guess.