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Man Carrying Ebola Virus In World's Fourth Most Populous City, Dies In Quarantine

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Update: It has been confirmed that the Liberian man who died in quarantine, did in fact have Ebola. Cue panic mitigation.

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While the state of Sierra Leone is scrambling to locate the missing woman who is "on the loose" in the capital Freetown with a documented case of Ebola, we can at least close the book on the other developing story we reported yesterday involving a person who collapse in the international airport of Nigeria's megacity, Lagos, and who was being tested for Ebola. The man has died.

From Reuters:

A Liberian man suspected to have Ebola virus has died in quarantine in Lagos, Nigeria, a Nigerian official in Geneva told Reuters on Friday.

 

The man, who collapsed on arrival at the airport in Nigeria's commercial centre, Lagos, on Thursday, was being kept in isolation by authorities and had not entered the mega-city of 21 million people, he said.

 

"While he was in quarantine he passed away," the official said. "The Liberian came in and he was quarantined at the airport and not allowed to go to the city. While he was quarantined he passed away. Everyone who has had contact with him has been quarantined," he told Reuters. 

 

If confirmed, the Liberian man would be the first case on record of one of the world's deadliest diseases in Nigeria, Africa's biggest economy and with 170 million people, its most populous country. However, Ebola is one of a number of viruses that can cause hemorrhagic fever. 

It is unclear if he passed away from natural causes, such as being beaten to death to avoid any loose ends, or because the Ebola virus he was carrying was in very late stage.

No matter the open questions, we are confident that there is nothing to worry about and that the risk of anyone else encountering the man (who may or may not have died from Ebola 24 hours later) while at the airport, and certainly flying off to non-African destinations, is below zero. In fact, we are confident that no matter what the story is, it is bullish for risk assets and certainly for global healthcare companies.

 

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Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:52 | 5003712 90's Child
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Infect the masses.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:54 | 5003718 Beard of Zeus
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Mother Nature's way of controlling the population.

 

May it spread throughout Africa and Asia.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:57 | 5003734 90's Child
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Do the math.

Let's say he died from the virus. That means he had it infecting people for at least 28 days before he started showing signs.

How many people you come in contact with in 28 days?
Let alone in a city of 20 million +

If he did infect just ONE person that's all it would take off the odds to get this wild fire spreading.

Bad day for sure.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:59 | 5003746 Pheonyte
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The incubation period is 2 to 21 days, not 28.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:02 | 5003762 90's Child
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Thanks for the correction thought I read 28 days some where.
Gettin my virus and plagues all mixed up. To many too keep up with.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:06 | 5003785 kurzdump
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Yea, that was '28 days later' probably, or '28 weeks later'.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:15 | 5003818 AlaricBalth
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“The earth is attempting to rid itself of an infection by human parasite.” 
 Richard PrestonThe Hot Zone

(Thanks to hedgeless_horseman from a previous thread)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-25/ebola-victim-run-west-africa-ca...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:22 | 5003842 hedgeless_horseman
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Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:25 | 5003871 AlaricBalth
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From Reuters today: "Earlier on Friday, WHO spokesman Paul Garwood said: "He departed on the plane initially with no symptoms, he reported being symptomatic on arrival. I understand that he was vomiting and he then turned himself over basically, he made it known that he wasn't feeling well. Nigerian health authorities took him and put him in isolation," he said."

http://news.yahoo.com/suspected-ebola-victim-dies-quarantine-nigeria-150...

From the Hot Zone by Richard Preston: "He open his mouth and gasps into the bag, and the vomiting goes on endlessly. It will not stop, and he keeps bringing up liquid, long after his stomach should have been empty. The airsickness bag fills up to the brim with a substance known as the vomito negro, or the black vomit. The black vomit is not really black; it is a speckled liquid of two colors, black and red, a stew of tarry granules mixed with fresh red arterial blood. It is hemorrhage, and it smells like a slaughterhouse. The black vomit is loaded with virus."

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:42 | 5004227 Four chan
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jesus! now thats some writing!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 18:23 | 5005560 August
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The Hot Zone is an old (early 90's?) book, but well worth the read.  "Non-fiction thriller".

It's like opera:  everybody dies at the end.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:56 | 5004293 ShrNfr
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Hemorrhagic fevers are hemorrhagic because they basically cuisinart your cells. The reproduction in the cell is so rapid it bursts it. Not just here and there, but all over the place. That is why you Bleed out of every orifice in your body, and I do mean every. Nasty stuff.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:54 | 5004612 BlindMonkey
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You guys are taking doom porn to the next level today.  Bravo!!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 20:31 | 5005997 Buck Johnson
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Good god this thing is explained in nasty detail.  There is no way that others haven't been infected.

 

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 15:20 | 5010168 The_Virginian
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Do we really have overpopulation goons here? 

Okay, Ehrlich. 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 03:24 | 5006599 pilager
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28 days, That's the plague called vaginola that infects the female species.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:58 | 5004297 Groundhog Day
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Can someone say "12 Monkeys"

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:00 | 5003753 Headbanger
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Yeah.  So how much longer until it kills you, Einstein?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:55 | 5004282 Groundhog Day
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Did he visit the Fed building?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:00 | 5003758 SubjectivObject
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What?

No wish of comuppance for caucasoid banksters, politakeans, and their commensurately degenerate corporape consorts, forthcoming from you?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:16 | 5003831 maskone909
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you should write obammmers teleprompter

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 10:26 | 5022445 SubjectivObject
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"My fallow Amerwreckans! ....

.... USlessA's!  USlessA's!  USlessA's! "

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:06 | 5003787 r0mulus
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Just to note: you are hoping for the death of at least tens of milions. Are you serious?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:14 | 5003819 Beam Me Up Scotty
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If this thing with Russia keeps going, it could be 100's of millions.  Or more.  Or it could be everyone.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:59 | 5004636 BlindMonkey
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It has been decades since I saw this but still remember the quote.  It came right up on youtube too.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp73CJyCp5Q

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:36 | 5004189 Bangin7GramRocks
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We have need to fire bomb the city in order to save it. Tell them to contact the U.S. They specialize in bloodthirsty slaughter and have mountains of munitions perfect for the job.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:45 | 5004249 Clycntct
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Let me help correct your post so you don't run up to many negs.

"May it spread throughout Africa and Asia" and Wash DC.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:19 | 5004411 Beard of Zeus
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And Hollywood.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:59 | 5004643 BlindMonkey
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Brussels.  Can't forget Brussels.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 00:07 | 5005850 Chuck Walla
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Late stage Ebola is like 36-48 hours.

FORWARD DISEASED SOVIET!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:53 | 5003713 spekulatn
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BTFED (BuyTheFuckinEbolaDip)

 

Good weekend ZH community.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:53 | 5003714 NOTaREALmerican
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Nothing to worry about until it starts killing the top 20%.  

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:09 | 5003795 101 years and c...
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the Fed is already working on printing a cure/vaccine.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:22 | 5003859 Urban Redneck
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The deceased who brought the plague upon the "civilized" and interconnected world worked for the Ministry of Finance.

God may have twisted sense of Humor

Mammon's disciples may desire to take down the rest of the world with the collapse of their debt pyramid

An irate ZH member may have decided to take bankster suicides to the next level

Regardless, the Fed would be well advised to start "printing for a cure"...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:54 | 5003719 homersimpson
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Oh no... he dropped when he came off the plane? Oh vey.

Our future awaits:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJMjiCxHLdg

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:10 | 5003790 Emergency Ward
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In the USA that dude would have gotten the DHS full-patdown orifice search.  "Is that snot or a bomb-making component dripping from your nose?"  Poor DHS agent.

I guess some day in the future the DHS airport gropers will be wearing bio-hazard suits -- because nothing, nothing, nothing is more important than agent safety.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:10 | 5003804 MsCreant
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No need for suits, they ARE biohazards. We need a suit of protection from them.

Right now, you could not pay me to fly.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:21 | 5003854 WillyGroper
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Ditto!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:26 | 5004777 IndyPat
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I fly more often then I'd like to...which is to say, none at all if I could avoid it. Outside of the TSA, airlines have adopted Hobbit sized seating so as to cram more folks in which isn't compatible with my Yeti like build (6'4" 345lbs)
Anyway, I always opt out of the body scanners and so does my wife.
The main TSA Toady that checks your ticket/drivers license said after I told him we are opting out said "the scanners are perfectly safe, they emit no X-rays or radiation"
My wife and I busted out laughing at him. He got mad and said "it's true!"
To which my wife, who introduced herself to the stooge as the Neuro Oncologist that she is told him "keep telling your self that. I'll be seeing you soon. Then you'll be the one being poked and prodded. And you'll have a brain tumor the size of a volley ball."
He turned a whiter shade of pale, and waved us through.

This is the third time we've had to give that little info dump.

Then over at the violation pat down area, stooge 2 asks me if I'd like the pat down in private.
I said "no, I like it here in the open so everyone can see exactly how disgusting it is. Maybe a few will wake up"
This one gave me a knowing look and said under his breath "I hope so, too. I hate doing this"
I said "then don't do it and spill your guts"
He shrugged.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:13 | 5003817 overmedicatedun...
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e ward, lets keep that to ourselves here on ZH, those goons at TSA- I have no charity for - SS gestapo deserve a break more than these child molesting skunks. all they (tsa) need to do is a little reading about how much america hates them, but they keep that job," it was orders you know", panamundo judges say guilty.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:55 | 5003720 Silky Johnson
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They gave the guy the Marcellus Wallace treatment, "I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' niggers, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch."

Serves the son of a bitch right for travelling with that shit coming out of his orifices.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:55 | 5003727 SubjectivObject
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"... in quarantine."

Dewd, I gots you a great deal ona brij ...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:57 | 5003736 overmedicatedun...
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know someone flying to lagos next week...some how I will not be waiting for him on his return, if .gov is smart there will be no  return flights until ebola burns out..but then that would be racissst.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 11:59 | 5003741 jmcadg
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The guy flew in to Lagos. Good luck to everyone on that flight and their family and friends and their ... Fuck.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:01 | 5003742 medium giraffe
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So much doom porn recently.  Bought myself some Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:13 | 5003811 MsCreant
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Medium sized no doubt.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:39 | 5003846 medium giraffe
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Yup.  Medium sized towel too.  I'm ready rock.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:52 | 5004597 jon dough
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We need to wrap Lagos in an SEP Field.

 

Just to buy us some time...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:17 | 5003839 youngman
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It would be nice to know his history..where he was at ..who he was with...how he got it in other words..I would hate to be the person sitting next to him on the plane..

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:33 | 5004814 IndyPat
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I'm thinking that most people who cornhole fruit bats don't like discussing the ins and outs of it, so to speak.
But hey, to each his own right?
Perhaps it's time for them to come out of the shadows and petition for marriage rights. It's loving and they were born that way.

"Babaka, do you take this Bat to be your lawfully wedded...."

Never mind. Could never happen.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:21 | 5003841 mastersnark
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Ebola is not an airborne disease you troglodytic hydrocephalitics. That's why its only managed to kill < 700.

That chicken jambalaya disease the Atlantic Africans brought into the US is a more realistic concern due to its mosquito vector.

ZH'ers may be good at EOTW finance hype, but they suck at disease hype.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:24 | 5003867 Pheonyte
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Ebola-Reston was airborne, albeit harmless to humans. It's just a matter of time before one of the deadly strains mutates into an airborne virus.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:48 | 5003973 cougar_w
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True. And getting into a big city is the first step. If they can't keep this locked into the countryside it's only a matter of time before it learns some useful tricks.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:51 | 5003992 elegance
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Yep, a recombinant of reston and zaire. Then we really would be deep in the shit.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:04 | 5003921 Dr. Engali
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Actually already knew that fact you pompous twit, that doesn't mean there isn't cause to be concerned. Do you actually believe that the majority of us haven't at least googled Ebola and read up on it once Tyler started posting articles about it? Your arrogance is stunning.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 19:47 | 5005857 mastersnark
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Yes. Yes, I do.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:40 | 5003931 corporatewhore
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is it really 700 or just officially 700?  Could they have some BLS help in massaging the numbers?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:36 | 5004191 Urban Redneck
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The number of infections is BLS'd due to the "scoring" system used to "diagnose" ebola in a "scientific" laboratory. (If memory serves- a 75% percent score is YES and a 74% score is NO.)

More concerning is there TEPCOing of the number of healthcare professionals who have died of hemorrhagic fever in the past several months.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:49 | 5003979 dasein211
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We know this Ebola is a mutation. It was already confirmed in march. The doc from Sierra Leone was very well experienced with ebola. The doctor was suited up for contact precautions but that wouldn't help if it was airborne. As well 27 medical staff have also come down with it and they were suited as well. There is no CDC or monitoring body in those countries other than the WHO/ MSF. I am sure the cases of death are more like in the thousands. It's only a 60% fatality rate so this virus obviously isn't burning out..... It's growing. The dynamic has changed and it's chance for recombinance has exploded. It's different this time.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 19:46 | 5005855 mastersnark
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Yes, it must have mutated into an airborne disease. There is literally no other explanation for a person exposed to dozens of advanced stage Ebolinacs to have caught the disease.

Commence histrionics in 3...2...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:58 | 5004032 aardvarkk
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I would have thought someone who could use those kinds of words in a put-down and knows enough about epidemiology to know what a "vector" is in that context would also be aware that the more cases of a disease there are and the more the virus multiplies, the more likely becomes a mutation that could make the thing airborne.  Huh.  Learn something new about pompous assclowns every day I guess.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 19:41 | 5005837 mastersnark
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Yes, run for the hills before the Zero Hedge Ebola Mutation occurs..."on a long enough timeline..."

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:07 | 5004061 Bastiat
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Right, bodily fluids.  Did you miss the vomiting part?  What did he touch?  He was feeling very sick did he balance himself on chair backs going down the aisle?  Escalators?  Men's room? Faucet handles?  Doorknobs?  No it's not airborne but it is abundant beyond belief in  bodily fluids once the symptoms are showing and it is virulent.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:34 | 5004496 corporatewhore
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so how did the good Dr. Khan, fully garbed and aware of the disease's efficiency in killing, contract the disease?  Needle prick, hole in armour, careless removal of clothing? or is it,in fact, becoming airborne/attempting thereto?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:01 | 5004169 dvfco
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Yes, we 'troglodytic hydrocephalitics' should all be ignored. It's just kinda the little problem that, for the first time in history, the virus has been documented as having infected well over 1,000 people across at least three nations all in one outbreak.

And the 1,000+ mark was passed more than one week ago.

And, the #1 doctor in Africa for treating Ebola has contracted it and is now, very likely, about to die from it.  He is a national hero in Sierra Leone and he's now in their largest city, Kenema.  Three nurses are known to have contracted it as early as Monday, and this outbreak has been going on for over a month.  Typically, it burns out very quickly and scientist's greatest fear is that it goes into a 'slow-burn', where it travels around the world at a fast enough rate that it can be transferred before the vectors are traced.

So, then we've got another guy possibly dying of it in the airport in Africa's largest city (Lagos - >5m people) and a woman on the run with it in Freetown. I think that is a city of >1m people as well.

So, we at Z.H. wish you a severe case of the Chikyngunya, or even the dengue, but not Ebola - 'cause we're good people, despite the fact that you feel we are cavemen with water on the brain. Is that a fair assessment of your trog/hydro statement?

Oh, who cares.  Let's go back to CBS, NBC, ABC & FOX and sympathize with the Israeli army having to deal with all the Palestinians refusing to stop running into their live ammunition.  All those sub-human Palestinians who are acting as human shields for other human shields protecting other human shields.  (**There are no actual Palestinian victims - just more former human shields.  If you live in the U.S. you cannot forget that or Ambassador Bolton will have to return to your newcast to remind you.**).  Those poor Israelis with 2/3rds of their territory under a horrific siege of bombardment that has killed, uhm, nobody?  I think?  But, don't close the airport - it's not that bad.

Fucked Up World!

 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 19:37 | 5005826 mastersnark
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As I said to the other hypester, "Fine, you wait for the Zero Hedge Ebola Mutation to kick in, meanwhile I'll start counting the US Chicken Jambalaya infections. First one to 100,000 infections wins a major prize."

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:32 | 5004175 Urban Redneck
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You need to brush up on "realistic concerns" (and expand your definition of airborne - biologists, chemists, and physicists all have their professional proclivities, but this virus can be transported through the air and infect other people).

Chikungunya is joke. It's not fatal. Mosquito borne diseases can be contained by controlling the mosquito population, and there are plenty of more serious mosquito borne diseases that people in tropical climates already deal with. Wake me up when the UN starts issuing yellow cards for people traveling through Chikungunya infected countries.

Ebola, however, is serious concern, not because some Stephen King scenario is probable (which would require a mutation where the virus can infect someone through trans-dermal or respiratory absorption in a normal healthy human), but because ebola is:

1) highly lethal,
2) there is NO vaccine or cure (despite years of research into ebola as bioweapon);
3) could result EOTW (non-BLSable) finance situations;
4) and/or could result in an EOTW fascist crackdown on civil on human rights.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 19:37 | 5005824 mastersnark
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Fine, you wait for the Zero Hedge Ebola Mutation to kick in, meanwhile I'll start counting the US Chicken Jambalaya infections. First one to 100,000 infections wins a major prize.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 05:53 | 5006700 Urban Redneck
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There's no prize and simple infections don't count.

I talk to people all over West Africa every day, not one has even mentioned chikungunya despite it being one of the mosquito borne diseases in West Africa, one of these people is even recovering from malaria right now, which infects over 200 million people per year and kills over half a million.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:37 | 5004835 IndyPat
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Would you wager that this mans explosive bloody stool that no doubt plastered the lav was a-ok? Everything he touched in that plane could have been infected, numbnuts.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 19:50 | 5005865 mastersnark
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In addition to that made up event, you forgot he also smeared his feces all over the check-in gate and made water balloons out of his blood and threw them at the baggage handlers.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 13:31 | 5007409 dogismycopilot
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hey fuck stick, clearly you have never been on a plane load of Africans coming in from the Heart of Darkness. Your lucky if they wash their hands after they smear shit all over the inside of the lavatory on the plane. the guy only has to sneeze in there and VOILA! you just gave the next guy a chance at the lotto ticket.

fucking asshole you are.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:30 | 5003872 Colonel Klink
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Obama to start allowing direct flights from Liberia and Lagos due to humanitarian crisis, bypassing immigration laws in 3..2..1..

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:53 | 5004004 Dr. Engali
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Sounds about right. Then we will get some other scandal later on so people stop talking about it.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:55 | 5004005 Dr. Engali
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Dupe.... Fat finger.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:29 | 5004168 Squid Viscous
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Let's fly the next still-alive victim straight to Capitol Hill, there are some folks i would like him to meet

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:32 | 5003894 buzzsaw99
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what is it about a fucking deadly virus that compels people to get on an airplane? jebus h merry effing xmas.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:46 | 5003964 cougar_w
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"While he was quarantined he passed away. Everyone who has had contact with him has been quarantined," he told Reuters.

Oh is that a fact.

Lying sack of shit. I don't believe so much two words of either sentence.

They got a problem and they ain't say'n. That means it's a mu'fucking big problem.

I'm not ready to call this one, but we'll see.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:52 | 5004008 Xandrino
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indeed, no way to know who he all had contact with in 21 days, could be millions. 

Bunch of BS if you ask me.

In any case it was created by the military

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:12 | 5004092 cougar_w
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"In any case it was created by the military"

No it wasn't.

Stop making things sound like a grade-B movie script. Shit is already complicated enough as it is.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:24 | 5004152 aardvarkk
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This.  Let me further add that the joooos didn't do it, and neither did muslims, or blacks, or any other group you care to hate.  Hate who you want, but this is pure fucking nature, it's been there for a long time and it's scary as hell.

If I had gotten to the point where I had a retreat location, I would absolutely have either already bugged out there or had plans to hit the road, with no reliance on refueling all the way there, at the first sign of a case showing up in my town.

As it is, nobody with so much as a sniffle is coming into my house until this thing has run its course.  And I'm glad as hell I've at least had the chance to stock up on some things for a long spell at home.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:08 | 5004349 Urban Redneck
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When the ebola reached Conakry, a friend of mine was going to take his family and guards and bug out to his country home and block the road coming in. As far as I know he's still holed up there. The problem is his country home is a banana plantation, so all the local fruit bats (which may or may not be carrying ebola) do their daily feeding at his house.

For a gun-toting paranoid hypochondriac that would be like... From Dusk till Dawn meets Groundhog Day. Good thing he has his head screwed on straight, or at least he did the last when we last spoke.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:19 | 5004410 aardvarkk
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Yeah, it would help a lot if they could figure out which friggin' critter is really carrying this stuff.  Fruit bats?  Vampire bats?  Rodents?  Spiders?  Who knows?  I don't recall ever reading if they ever found out, actually.  But seeing as how it seems to be something that lives in equatorial Africa I feel somewhat safe from the original haven species.

Unless raccoons or skunks or porcupines can also be carriers, anyway.  But I hope we never find that out.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:37 | 5004516 Urban Redneck
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They are fairly sure porcupines can be ebola carriers (I actually ate a West African porcupine not that long ago... bushmeat brains and all). Raccoons and skunks are somewhat similar, and along with bats are common carriers of rabies but the coons and skunks tend to carry different strains except when they infect each other - so who knows, but I'd operate under the assumption that all rodents of unusual size can be diseased if TSHTF.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:47 | 5003968 firstdivision
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Did he bleed out of every orifice of his body?  If so then he died from Ebola, if not, more than likely didn't die from Ebola.  Shouldn't be that hard to tell if he died from Ebola or not.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:33 | 5004221 MsCreant
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Unless he was a liberal...

 

Edit: bleeding heart?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:49 | 5004910 IndyPat
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Stigmata?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:49 | 5003983 icanhasbailout
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PREDICTION CONTEST!

 

Name the first

a) Western European city,

b) Asia-Pac city (anywhere east of Iran west of Hawaii), and

c) US city

 

that Ebola shows up in

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:54 | 5004016 elegance
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A)Paris

B)Shanghai

C)It will be denied for so long it will be impossible to determine...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:23 | 5004143 medium giraffe
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c. yup. probably blamed on something else, like the plague.  oh....

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:14 | 5004098 cougar_w
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a) Amsterdam

b) Bangkok

c) Philadelphia

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:28 | 5004163 aardvarkk
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Those were actually mine, except that I figured either New York or LA for the US.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:35 | 5004185 valley chick
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After going back and checking the post by HH ...I agree with LA as a number1 city with Ny a close 2nd. The wild card being Atlanta.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:56 | 5004294 cougar_w
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LA and NY seem like obvious choices, but I think those places probably have their act together enough that if someone came down sick they'd be handled quickly. In fact, probably have been already and nobody heard about it . I picked Philly as an example of a large enough city to have a travelling case of ebola, but being poor and disfucntional enough to let something like that get out of hand.

Sorry Philly, nothng personal. You rock.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:04 | 5004325 aardvarkk
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Well, with that set of parameters I would say New Orleans would be an intensely likely city, and maybe Miami.  In either case, it wouldn't take much to get a real shitstorm going that might never get put out.  You've just got to put the mayor of New Orleans and the governor of LA in charge, and half the country will be flat on its back in no time.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:33 | 5004180 hedgeless_horseman
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a) Edinburgh

b) Beijing

c) Houston

All petroleum industry cities.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:51 | 5004271 sleepingbeauty
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a) London

b) Mumbai

c) New York

 

What a dark person I am. I never knew.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:32 | 5005148 MsCreant
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Well you are asleep and all...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:41 | 5004539 Urban Redneck
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a) Paris
b) Beijing
c) Houston

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 12:53 | 5004012 tony wilson
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most military grade agents have a signature.

if we wanted to it would be easy to find out which us,uk or israeli germ warfare facilitie these bugs came out of init.

or we could just save time and ask bill gates what the deal is here.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:03 | 5004051 caustixoid
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Tylers are getting over-excited.  First paragraph seems to say that the counry of Sierra Leone (capital Freetown) is the capital of Liberia (capital Monrovia).   Either Ebola has turned west africa upside down, blurring countries and cities together in one big bleeding orifice, or doom porn is making people irrational.

Ebola kills too fast - that is its Achilles heel -  that's why deaths are in the 100s.  It's not a last-person-turn-out-the-lights virus.  The most effective pathogens, the ones that kills millions, are slow-growing, so you carry on with life while you spread the pathogen, like HIV and tuberculosis.  Kinda boring really

 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:17 | 5004119 icanhasbailout
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This outbreak is not following the standard countryside->city vector. It appeared in three separate cities at once, not migrating in from the countryside at all. I would not expect a similar death toll to past vectors.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:30 | 5004171 cougar_w
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HIV and TB are the wrong models. Smallpox had a short incubation period of around 12 days, was fairly lethal (20-50% or more) and yet it spread like wildfire in Medieval Europe many times, killing many hundreds of thousands at a time when densities were nothing like today. So these fast+deadly pathogens can still make a dent. Of course today we have modern medical systems and methods to manage outbreaks, but otherwise conditions in many modern cities are not a whole lot different than 500 years ago. People still crowd together, don't take care of themselves, wait too long to seek medical attention (or never bother) and when they get sick often revert to secrecy ("I need my paycheck!") and voodoo ("I'll take some Vit-C").

Some of the hype is just that. But don't underestimate how vulnerable some cities are. Probably things are really dicey in Europe. Can you even imagine the economic implications of even a small ebola outbreak outside Paris? Flights out of France would be halted, and tourism would dry up. Would probably cost France $50B in lost business and associated trouble.

 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:48 | 5004258 MsCreant
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If it gets bad enough, no one goes out to do anything because they are too scared. Might even impact basic services (water treatment, power, transportation, let the imagination run wild).  

That incubation period is the kicker. You won't know if it is "all clear" for a while.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:16 | 5004392 g speed
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think it might have an impact on (horrors) scrull bussing?????

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:14 | 5004387 aardvarkk
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This is essentially my take, except that I would add that in the time it took a midieval traveler to get his horse ready and get his shit together and hit the town line, I could get a ticket, hop a flight from my midwestern town and be in an Asian or European city spreading virus like crazy.  Bodily fluids you say?  Well, if I barf in the bathroom on the plane I could easily infect half the plane by leaving some where people touch it but don't notice it.

No, we're off the edge of the map with all the new technology involved if this one gets entirely out of hand.  Here there be monsters.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 20:14 | 5005941 mastersnark
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LOL, are you trying to reason with ZH'ers on disease infection?

When you are done with that, try getting booked on O'Reilly Factor to explain why 911 was an inside job.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:38 | 5004203 sleepingbeauty
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Tyler updated the top, he definitely had ebola.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:31 | 5004481 ExYank
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Evil as it may sound. but, fuck africa. The entire place is a fucked up shithole. I have travelled around all over that continent and have yet to find a single redeeming quality about it aside from photogenic geography. It is by far the least civilised place on earth I have ever experienced. I have been in the combat zones of the middle east (Iraq and Afghanistan) and find the civilian populations there far more apealing than anything I have seen in Africa. Humanitarian aid has fucked the place up so badly that only a mass extintion event could possibly restore the balance.  

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:07 | 5004691 SilverRhino
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That bad?  Elaborate if you would. 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:45 | 5004565 q99x2
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I watched the Strain 2 episode. The AA meeting shown was pretty accurate. The show sucks. Another racist production showing bad germans good jews. Oh well.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:59 | 5005261 Beowulf55
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OK people......."The man, who collapsed on arrival at the airport in Nigeria's commercial centre, Lagos,....."

 

Where was he coming from?

 

Anyone?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 19:13 | 5005739 SmittyinLA
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or going to, and was he Muslim?

 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 21:02 | 5006071 kedi
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He really arrived in a Russian missle.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 18:18 | 5005546 wizardofOZ
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I would aprecate your opinon on this.

 

An airborne disease is any disease that is caused by pathogens and transmitted through the air.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_disease

 

A drop or droplet is a small column of liquid, bounded completely or almost completely by free surfaces.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_(liquid)

 

When vomiting and one of the symptoms of ebola is vomiting, that person realses a droplet. It is small amount of liquid. Than in the case of aircraft that droplet enters in to airoplane ventilation system

http://www.pall.com/images/Aerospace-Defense-Marine/how_cabin_air_systems_work_chart1.jpg

 

And there was multipule incidents of medical personnel geting infected that were using protective gear. That would indicate that you can get infected with out physical contact wtih infected person. 

 

Or, let me refrase it. Viruses that are not airborne are transferd with bood or sperm (bodily liquides). HIV is one of the examples. 

 

Ebola is transferd to medical personnel in full protective equipment. That would indicate that this level of protection is not enough 

 

https://followtheoutbreak.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/140322_ebola-archive_52ce31da0ea0d106be0e510c01b61e7e.jpg?w=2048&h=1200&crop=1

 

and this is level of protection is providing adequate protection

 

https://www.mja.com.au/sites/default/files/issues/177_04_190802/tan10751_fm-3.jpg

 

and if this is correct assumption...then that person on the plane was highly contagious and droplests were in ventilation system of the airoplane. Virus is probably still in ventilation system. Only question is..how long can ebola survive in ventilation system of airoplane. 

 

What do you think ?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 21:02 | 5006069 kedi
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Medical personnel seem to contract the disease through poor control of materials and tools, lapse of protocols. Not the virus being able to penetrate the properly used safeguards. Labs working with such materials are of the highest level of protection. When it is introduced to hospitals, the precautions and methods are now makeshift in many cases. Accidents happen.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 20:47 | 5006042 kedi
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The fun thing about any outbreak, is it gives the disease a better opportunity to mutate. Maybe to an airborne variant. Then it moves fast. Especially in closed envirnment airplanes.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:06 | 5009953 Stud Duck
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The article indicated the dead guy is a Finance Minister, lets hope he has been to NY, London, ect and has been groveling for his cut on some load he was arraigning on behalf of his country.

If he was on a plane to a from, sooooooooo, it would not be a inaccurate statement to say well over 200 people were exposed on the round trip, not to mention the people that have been exposed and now incubating. Then you further extrapolate on the people that have been exposed to them. most all of them frequent travelers by air and we have the potential of a world wide problem of exposure.

This could be then new deminish in demand that will cause the great reset!

The only good thing is that those banker the dead guy exposed will be first, I am living deep rural, and can cut off all contact and survive. Now the rest of you in those big cities, well good luck, the thought of bolod from every orfice and gallon of back vomit before death should be a good motivator to get yourself ready for the event as best you can.

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