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ObamaFraud: GAO Study Finds Almost All Fake Applicants Are Approved For Subsidized ObamaCare

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg

ObamaFraud: GAO Study Finds Almost All Fake Applicants are Approved for Subsidized ObamaCare

Although it hasn’t been a focus for a while, the incompetent disaster that has been the ObamaCare rollout has been well documented on this site. Here are just a few posts on the subject:

The Obama Administration is Forcing Insurance Companies to Keep Quiet About ObamaCare Problems

Woman Touted as Obamacare Success Story is Now Kicked Off Obamacare

Humana Warns of “‘Adverse ObamaCare Enrollment Mix”

Computer Security Expert Claims he Hacked the ObamaCare Website in 4 Minutes

Serfs Up – Average Healthcare Premiums Have Soared 39%-56% Post Obamacare

 

Well the hits just keep on coming. The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO), recently conducted a study in which investigators attempted to use fake identities to sign up for subsidized healthcare under ObamaCare. The results are frightening. All but one phony applicant was successful. Moreover, the GAO more broadly notes that “about 2.6 million ‘inconsistencies’ existed among applicants who had chosen a health plan.”

The Washington Post reports that:

In undercover tests of the new federal health insurance marketplace, government investigators have been able to procure health plans and federal subsidies for fake applicants with fictitious documents, according to findings that will be disclosed to lawmakers Wednesday.

 

The results of the inquiry by the Government Accountability Office are evidence of still-imperfect work by specialists intended to assist new insurance customers as well as government contractors hired to verify that coverage and subsidies are legitimate. The GAO also pointed to flaws that linger in the marketplace’s Web site, HealthCare.gov.

 

According to testimony to be delivered before a House Ways and Means subcommittee, undercover GAO investigators tried to obtain health plans for a dozen fictitious applicants online or by phone, using invalid or missing Social Security numbers or inaccurate citizenship information.

 

All but one of the fake applicants ended up getting subsidized coverage — and have kept it. In one instance, an application was denied but then approved on a second try. In six other attempts to sign up fake applicants via in-person assisters, just one assister accurately told an investigator that the applicant’s income was too high for a subsidy.

 

The GAO’s account of fictitious applicants obtaining subsidized coverage goes beyond a related problem that surfaced this spring and that the investigators also cited: The government may be paying incorrect insurance subsidies to a significant share of the 5.4 million Americans who signed up for health plans for this year through the federal marketplace.

 

The GAO testimony contains updates on that problem, saying that, as of mid-July, about 2.6 million “inconsistencies” existed among applicants who had chosen a health plan and that 650,000 of them had been resolved.

Just more proof of a completely disconnected and incompetent government. As if you needed any more evidence.

Full article here.

 

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Fri, 07/25/2014 - 22:41 | 5006253 zerozulu
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one step closer to socialism.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:00 | 5006297 TeethVillage88s
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One Step Closer to Military Coup.

One Step Closer to Multiple Impeachments.

One Step Closer to Rigorous Inspections, Audits, Independent Auditing Reforms, Accounting Reforms, and Military Style Inspections of US Government Agencies.

-No Glory for GAO
-No Glory for CBO
-No Glory for US Ratings Agencies
-No Glory for Wall Street
-No Glory for US Corporations

-An End to US Congressional Lobbying

-An End to Blackmail of Supreme Court

-An End to NSA Spying on Citizens

-An End to NDAA Civil Rights loss in this Dirty War, and an End to the US Patriot Act

-An End to the Federal Reserve Abuses to the Little Guy on Main Street

-Welcome the new Era of Anti-Trust, Anti-Racketeering, Anti-Lobbying, Anti-Big government, Anti-Defense Subsidies, and Anti-Israel Lobby

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:04 | 5006304 TeethVillage88s
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Clap yourself on the back. It is a celebration.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:06 | 5006310 Richard Chesler
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Fraud and change. 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:23 | 5006344 old naughty
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Faked applicants.

Aliens.

One step closer to Civil War 2 / War of the Worlds !?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:42 | 5006376 wee-weed up
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The Obozo Admin will give free sign-up to ObozoCare...

For all the illegal undocumented DemoCraps flooding across the Southern border...

And then claim fabulous enrollment and sign-up numbers!

And the MSM will have orgasms in reporting those sign-up numbers!

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 00:38 | 5006458 boogerbently
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REPEAT:

This is the problem with ALL gov. programs, and why GOP/conservatives are against them.

They operate on the "honor system". For a largely DISHONORABLE public......using MY money.

Check bank accounts/earnings. Cross check Disability/Welfare/food stamp/IRS records.

I'm NOT against helping someone temporarily "down on their luck".

I RESENT supporting FREELOADERS, ILLEGALS, Gamers of the system !

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 06:59 | 5006728 negative rates
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They prolly had sympathic symptoms, and so were accepted accordingly.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 07:50 | 5006760 NoDebt
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Cloward Piven.  Obamacare was never designed to "work".  It was designed to overload and break the system.  In that respect, it's working perfectly.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:30 | 5006859 SafelyGraze
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when you consider the number of people around the world who are being denied access to medical care, you realize that it's only a tiny step forward to provide insurance to all residents (whether documented or undocumented) in the US.

a better, and fairer, plan would be to extend this much-needed service globally

and remember: fictitious persons need insurance, too

 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 16:11 | 5007832 sylviasays
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"when you consider the number of people around the world who are being denied access to medical care, you realize that it's only a tiny step forward to provide insurance to all residents (whether documented or undocumented) in the US. a better, and fairer, plan would be to extend this much-needed service globally and remember: fictitious persons need insurance, too"

Either you forgot your sacrcasm tag or you're delusional. How will health insurance programs controlled by corrupt big government elites provide better access to medical care for people around the world? 


Sat, 07/26/2014 - 16:22 | 5007862 Bendromeda Strain
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Healthcare is an inalienable right, doncha know. Democrats say so. The pope agrees.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 17:25 | 5007977 Excursionist
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And this cuts to the heart of the most divisive piece of legislation in U.S. history:  is healthcare a basic human right like freedom and the pursuit of happiness?

I do not believe so, but I seem to be in a diminishing minority.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 22:03 | 5011263 edotabin
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It could be that, as the economic lanscape of the country has been decimated, more and more people stopped paying the exorbitant prices healthcare companies wanted.  As such, they make contribution mandatory and now we all have to pay for it whether we want to or not.

I am not wise enough to make a judgement as to whether or not healthcare is a basic human right. I am wise enough to know that being healthy is a state that is achieved, to a large extent, by personal choices. I am also wise enough to know that we do not have healthcare but "sickness management" as the root cause of disease is rarely, if ever, addressed. Rather the solution usually required pills, pills and more pills as well as treatment, treatment and more treatment.  I am also wise enough to know that disease is on the rise and not the other way around. Just look at cancer statistics, for example.

So, I say, it is a way to keep everyone on the hamster wheel.

 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:46 | 5006885 XitSam
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GOP elites are the other wing of the Collectivist Party.  As for "conservatives", they are for government subsidies/handouts as long as they are the receivers.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 16:17 | 5007841 sylviasays
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"As for "conservatives", they are for government subsidies/handouts as long as they are the receivers."

Only a big government socialist libtard used to taking would make this assumption about all conservatives. 


Sat, 07/26/2014 - 22:38 | 5008680 Democratic koolaid
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Using the moniker "liberals" to explain socialsim and new age pinkos seems to give liberty a bad name. Prefurably they should be called the "left"  cause they have left all scensible thoughts forgot.

 

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 22:02 | 5011260 XitSam
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You're totally clueless.  Show me a conservative owned business that doesn't lobby some level of government for subsidies, assistance or restrictions on their competition.  Show me just five (5) conservatives that refuse Social Security benefits.

As to how my statement makes me a "socialists libtard", I can't even fathom.  I'm about as committed an anarcho-capitalist (that's libertarian for your simpletons) as can be.

Next time, consider alternate explanations before you open your mouth and say something even stupider than you actually are.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:28 | 5006931 doctor10
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GOP/conservatives "against" them?!!!

LOL!!!!Boehner and the House can defund ALL this shit in20minutes with a vote if they really wanted to do anything about it.

 

Mebbe the NSA "made them do it"

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:49 | 5006989 FeralSerf
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". . . why GOP/conservatives are against them."

If this is true, please tell us why the GOP (along with their partners in crime, the Democrats) "gave" us Medicare Part D.

"Check bank accounts/earnings. Cross check Disability/Welfare/food stamp/IRS records."

The NSA is doing just that and much more. Are you happy now?

"I RESENT supporting FREELOADERS, ILLEGALS, Gamers of the system !"

Anti-Semite!

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 22:16 | 5011292 edotabin
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In the beginning we had people "gaming the system". As things have deteriorated, I'm finding the system itself is the game.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:18 | 5007082 TheReplacement
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There is no need for .gov to force you to help people down on their luck.  ACA, however, isn't about helping people.  This country has a glorious history of individual charity.  The ACA only appears necessary because of the concerted effort to make charitable giving impractical or unrewarding.  This is about control.  The ACA is simply a mechanism to further the control by the few of the many.

Once .gov starts taking from you to give to others you have landed on a slippery slope and you don't control gravity. 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:38 | 5006377 Crawdaddy
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Nah. Another step closer to choosing sides. Good vs evil. Thats all.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:44 | 5006812 grunk
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An Obamacare Architect Said Something In 2012 That Could Unravel The Law

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/jonathan-gruber-halbig-case-subsidies-michael-cannon-2014-7#ixzz38ZtZT4KQ

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:45 | 5006813 grunk
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duplicate.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:41 | 5006383 Antifaschistische
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I'm not sure the GAO gets it.   The backdoor/frontdoor for bogus applicants was a design issue.  If it weren't not for this feature, POTUS would have never been able to hit his target numbers.

OFA had a mini army off applicant churners to help hit the targets...that's how they roll in Chicago and now DC.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 00:30 | 5006453 Chief Wonder Bread
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I’m making $3000 a week signing up people for Obamacare on my home computer!!! My system is so simple I can train any body to do it!!! Last week I signed up my dog and my wife’s 3 cats!!! They qualified right away and now they’re signing up people from all walks of life to get the same great Obamacare benefits!!! You can too!!! Call me and soon you’ll be on your way to fun and profit making the Obamacare home referral difference!!!

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 00:39 | 5006459 boogerbently
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Can you get me a reduced interest rate on a home I shouldn't qualify for ?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:25 | 5006793 max2205
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Free phone...check

Free rent check check

Free bealth care check

Free food check

Free utilities check

 

We r fucked

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 22:18 | 5011297 edotabin
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check !

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 01:19 | 5006512 Barack Obama
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Chief Wonder Bread,

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for helping out your fellow uninsured Americans. It is people like you that will help to achieve our goals in the upcoming elections. I look forward to receiving your substantial campaign contributions.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:34 | 5006948 Uncle Remus
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.

I signed up [...] my wife’s 3 cats

 

Excellent. I have 3 older cats and they are really starting to rack up the vet bills. Question, will O-Care cover the cost of the meat processor when it is time for them to er, go? I mean, I fed the little bastards for umpteen years, I oughta get something out of the deal - I am sure I can find an ethnic group in a college town that enjoys cat.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 03:56 | 5006638 SF beatnik
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When liberals like me start to sympathize with that notion of military coup, expressed above, we're in a whole lot of trouble.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:56 | 5006895 Renfield
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I'm a liberal too, as opposed to the large group of 'illiberals' out there. Illiberal: a statist voter, thus by definition neither liberal nor conservative.

Liberals are in just as much trouble as conservatives. (These groups are not necessarily opposite.)

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:44 | 5006879 XitSam
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Fraud and same.  

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:11 | 5006321 Seize Mars
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Wow

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:49 | 5006889 XitSam
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There won't be a military coup.  Why do you think Obama is purging the officer ranks?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 15:09 | 5007690 Cruel Aid
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lmao

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:07 | 5006317 junction
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Obamacare is how the government works these days.  Just rubberstamp the approval code on applicants you want to receive government payouts or licensing, be they oil company executives, drug companies with miracle drugs that kill or bad software vendors.  Almost all of Obama's henchmen are multi-millionaires thanks to their government service.  By the way, this is not socialism, it is fascism.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:24 | 5006349 PT
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How often are election promises broken???  How often are laws enacted that were not even debated during the election process???  How often does the "other" party get voted in, just to continue with the direction of the original party???

Do the plebs win when medical costs, or any other costs for that matter, are pumped up to artificial highs?

"Socialism" is the packaging.  "Theft" is the package.  The banksters get the T-bone.  The plebs get the scraps.  The plebs can't get the T-bone because they have no power.  The banksters can't get the T-bone unless they promise to give it to the plebs.  But the banksters get the first cut of the steak, and even if it is only a small cut, they get to control a lot of steaks.  Or, in this case, the medical industry gets first cut of the steaks - but then has to shuffle most of it to the insurance industry so the banksters win again!

It ain't socialism until the plebs have the power.  The banksters have the power.  The plebs get the scraps.
"Have mercy, I have a wife and three kids to feed."
"Have mercy, I have three thousand workers to feed."
"... and those three thousand workers have three thousand wives and nine thousand children."
"Have mercy, I have ten million students to feed.  You need to lend them some money!"

Socialism is the packaging.  Theft is the package.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:41 | 5006382 PT
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Does your medical insurance cover the whole bill or do you still have to shovel money out of your own pocket to cover some kind of "gap" between insurance coverage and the bill in your hand?  Who benefits?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 00:00 | 5006412 PT
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Re "the banksters get the first cut of the steak, and even if it is only a small cut, they get to control a lot of steaks" :

The banksters also get to determine the size of the steak.  They can also make it bigger.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:43 | 5006386 Crawdaddy
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NWO is what is inside the last little Russian doll, a Matryoshka of bad tidings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matryoshka_doll

Brought to you by the globalists and their implementation monkeys around the world.

When you get the ebola cough, make sure you hug one of them to show your appreciation for their devotion to your well being.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 02:01 | 5006547 zhandax
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"make sure you hug one of them"

Hugs are so blue team.  Be non-partisan and shake hands with them all.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:38 | 5006378 Berspankme
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FORWARD

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 02:31 | 5006569 James-Morrison
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Are we still pissing on a dead ember...

Who but a maroon doesn't know that Obamacare is also known as Healthcare for Dummies?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 22:43 | 5006256 hobopants
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They should conduct similar studies in other entitlement programs, I'm sure the results would be "Shocking".

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 22:46 | 5006264 TeamDepends
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Barry:  E Plurubus Unum

(cut to Wizard of Oz)

Wizard:  E Plurubus Unum

-There's No Place Like Utopia, Joel Gilbert

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:27 | 5006794 what's that smell
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hey america!

the gubmint just destroyed your health care system....and you did nothing.

the gubmint just destroyed your national borders....and you did nothing.

the gubmint just destroyed a civilian airliner to demonize the russians....and you did nothing.

it there any outrage that will make get off your asses and do something? anything?

oh yeah.....somebody said the "n" word.

stupid bitches.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:38 | 5006957 Uncle Remus
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.

somebody said the "n" word

 

You must mean the word "NO". 'Cause, it doesn't get a lot of use and when it does, it gets ignored.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 22:46 | 5006268 XenoFrog
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No Bug: Working as intended.

 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 00:47 | 5006470 Ariadne
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Thats a feature, baby. I stold it from Steve Jobs.

Its 'ard now that Steve's gone...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 22:47 | 5006269 world_debt_slave
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clove-piven, whatever, they were called, along with Alinsky, plotted this course long ago, seems to be coming to fruition

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 22:53 | 5006278 TeamDepends
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Come on brother, it's the Clown-Punting theorem....

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:49 | 5006391 Crawdaddy
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May be why the evil clown socks are all the fashion rage, starting with that ole luciferian Poppy Bush.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/25/george-h-w-bush-has-the-best-socks/

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 22:49 | 5006271 nmewn
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Isn't it amazing that, across this vast wasteland of "forty million uninsured" only six million (roughly) signed up?

#Glitchy

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 22:55 | 5006276 hobopants
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I signed up myself along with all my pets (cat, dog, hamster, rock). Figured it would be the patriotic thing to do.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:05 | 5006301 Emergency Ward
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My third cousin's co-worker's niece's best friend signed up through an ACA exchange and got a really good deal.  Only $5.99 a month for a triple-platinum plan and before she was paying $10,000 a month for a bronze plan.  She got a free iPhone (latest model) with unlimited text and internet and an iPad for signing up.  She doesn't have a doctor yet but plans to visit one soon -- she hasn't found a participating one in her area yet.  It only took her five minutes to sign up start to finish and she didn't have to give any personal information.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:05 | 5006308 nmewn
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lol...#FortyMillionServedOrBust.

Oh yeah, before I sign off for the evening, more fun with the inanity of hashtags & "rogue agents"...

"The reason given for Lerner's hard drive — possibly containing incriminating emails from and to the former head of the IRS Tax Exempt division — being destroyed and recycled, according to the IRS in the affidavit, was that a team of its technical experts had determined the drive was irreparably damaged and had to be recycled.

Except that was not true.

On Tuesday, House Ways and Means Committee investigators said that they had a chance to talk to the technical experts inside the IRS who actually examined Lerner's computer, and that the experts said the hard drive in question was merely "scratched" and most of the data on it was indeed recoverable."

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2014/07/busted-irs-caught-lying-to-both-federal.html

#Scratchy ;-)

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 03:13 | 5006595 SF beatnik
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in China, they don't fuck around. Case would already be closed, as would be the lid on her coffin.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:44 | 5006846 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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...

Deliberately destroying evidence pertaining to the investigation of possible criminal activity is a crime. So is lying about it to Congress and the courts as part of a cover-up of that activity.

...

Isn't that exactly what Allan Greenspan, the FED, et al did concerning evidence related to illegal securites the ONI was investigating that would have cleared nomally on 9/12/11 if it wasn't a plane doing a 360 to hit the section of the Pentagon where the ONI was including all their case files and such. Not only that 3 buildings fell that housed all the back up evidence related to those securities. So what did Greenspan do he had them cleared under extra ordinary circumstances with no paper or computer records to tie a name to who owned said securities...... They destroyed evidence into a criminal investigation a high level DOD investigation and no one was charged with a crime for destroying evidence. You don't do that unless very fucking high level people are in on the fix. That happened and is not speculation.

...

Someone really needs to nail that fucker to a white cross to send a message but not before getting a confession out of him first.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:09 | 5006319 Emergency Ward
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hobo -- it was patriotic.  The next time you go to the airport the DHS will cross-reference your ACA status and give you a love pat instead of a groin grope.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:16 | 5006323 hobopants
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That's a relief, now I can enjoy my malaysian flight without my junk getting bruised.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:39 | 5006380 TeamDepends
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Yeah, well we signed up our junk parts.  There's Captain Wang, Commander Cocque, Admiral Anus....  And they ALL have SPECIAL NEEDS!!!!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:53 | 5006403 hobopants
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You mean preexisting conditions?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 00:23 | 5006445 TeamDepends
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Sargeant Scro would prefer you keep that under wraps.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:49 | 5006822 ThroxxOfVron
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Private Private reporting for dew-tee, Surh!

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:43 | 5006877 BeetleBailey
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heyyyyyyyyyyy fuck you ...show your uni you maggot

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:57 | 5007022 ThroxxOfVron
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Stand at attention, little soldiers!   I have been promoted all the way to Major Prick!

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 00:44 | 5006462 Ariadne
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tracer echo

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 00:42 | 5006463 Ariadne
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OK masked dude so we lied. Whatya gonna do?

The ACA website didn't cost 700 million. That 7 was a down payment on the IRS system that is going to control the ACA. And every other detail of the sheep farm. Iff men are sheep. FAIL

Ignatius' principle works both ways. Reversing it I have turned sheep into men. Much easier than raising children, same as herding a congregation in the right direction.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:04 | 5006772 nmewn
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"OK masked dude so we lied."

I trust you're speaking in the third person because I really hate liars & thieves.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:44 | 5006981 Uncle Remus
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Or, in a skittle-shitting rainbow-inhabiting unicorn kind of optimistic vein, perhaps of those 40M uninsured, there was still an ember of intellect left that raised a red flag.

Nah. The reality is more likely that the ember is with the scammers in the 6M that did sign-up, albeit fraudulently. Future politicians and lobbyists, the lot.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:14 | 5007075 nmewn
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Maybe the remaining 36 million are waiting for a little more website security for this .gov phishing expedition ;-)

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:23 | 5007102 Uncle Remus
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Well, that too has some positive implications.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 22:55 | 5006284 kchrisc
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Can't funnel fiat to the big corps. that wrote Obamacare if you deny an application.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 00:41 | 5006449 Harbanger
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Who wrote Obamacare? Search Robert Creamer, and his firm Democracy Partners.  He's been a political activist on the left for 40 years, very close to Obama. 

"husband of Marxist Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, an Illinois Democrat who demands a “single payer” healthcare delivery system. Creamer’s book calls for the “democratization of wealth”, and the “progressive control of governments around the world”.

Creamer says that Democrats could win a permanent majority in Congress “by passing a national health care bill, turning more people into wards of government, that works to grow government; and by giving amnesty to all illegals, thereby creating, virtually overnight, a large new constituency of Democratic voters”With 50% of the country on some form of welfare, Creamer’s plan has progressed at a very rapid pace."

This is who wrote Obamacare, a Progressive

here's one link, there's many articles about him on the web

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/15/the-man-who-wrote-the-blueprint-f...

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 16:37 | 5007877 sylviasays
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Congresswoman Janice Schakowsky was born Janice Danoff in 1944, in the city of Chicago, the daughter of Jewish immigrants. She represents a large portion of Chicago's North Side and is considered to be the most "progressive" (aka radical far-left Marxist communist) in the Congress. On March 11, 2004, Schakowsky's husband, lobbyist Robert Creamer, the executive director of the Illinois Public Action Fund, was indicted in federal court on 16 counts of bank fraud involving three alleged check-kiting schemes in the mid-1990s, leading several banks to experience shortfalls of at least $2.3 million. In August 2005, Creamer pleaded guilty to one count of failure to collect withholding tax, and bank fraud for writing checks with insufficient funds. All of the money was repaid. Schakowsky was not accused of any wrongdoing. Schakowsky served on the organization's board during the time the crimes occurred, and Schakowsky signed the IRS filings along with her husband. U.S. District Judge James B. Moran noted no one suffered "out of pocket losses," and Creamer acted not out of greed but in an effort to keep his community action group going without cutting programs, though Creamer paid his own $100,000 salary with fraudulently obtained funds. On April 5, 2006, Creamer was sentenced to five months in prison and 11 months of house arrest. Creamer served his five-month incarceration at the Federal Correction Institute in Terre HauteIndiana and was released on November 3, 2006.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 22:56 | 5006289 kchrisc
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But then the biggest problems with Obamacare is that it is another Unconstitutional treasonous assault against the American people.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:51 | 5006396 PT
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Sorry to be nit-picking, but I'm not sure about that word, "treasonous".  I notice zillions of people use it these days but is it right?  Treasonous?  I know "traitor", "treason", "treachery", "treacherous".  Whatever happened to "treacherous"???

Back to your regular programming.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 00:02 | 5006417 kchrisc
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I use "treasonous" as defined here: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/treasonous

Meaning "treasonable."

And I use treason, treasonous, and treasonable from an Article 3, Section 3 point of view:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

 

"And I use guillotine with a pol, crat and bankster in mind."

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 01:03 | 5006489 A Nanny Moose
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Treason cannot exist, since the Untied States no longer exists. In fact, nations do not exist. Nations are merely human constructs.

Now the ground...that thing that everyone eventually hits, despite all attempts to evade reality (READ:gravity)....that shit is fucking real. Enjoy the crater.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:50 | 5006992 Uncle Remus
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Bullshit. Treason exists in the hearts of men.

Unless you're like Dick Cheney, in which case you wear it like skin.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 01:19 | 5006510 mkhs
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 "And I use guillotine with a pol, crat and bankster in mind."

 

There's your problem right there.  The guillotine works better when they are in it, not in your mind.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 06:53 | 5016832 PT
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Thanks kchrisc.  I still don't know what happened to "treacherous" but you got me fair and square.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 22:57 | 5006291 Atomizer
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One step closer to refunding social security and medicare slated ponzi scam. ObamaCare was merely a tool to redistribute funds stolen to invest back into contribing preexistiing investment pools. 

When you steal from peter to pay paul.,someones hand gets caught in the cookie jar.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:01 | 5006299 catch edge ghost
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Parasites at the top. Parasites at the bottom.

No matter about fraud though. Indeed the more, the merrier. As long as the insurors purchase the requisite amount of government securities each quarter, then it's all going according to plan.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:06 | 5006307 Salsipuedes
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Thank you! Thank you! But I couldn't have done it without the help of thousands of zombified, overpaid bureaucrats and a shit load of funny money! God bless and goodnight... suckers!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:24 | 5006346 Fuku Ben
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They could just roll everyone under the Veterans Health Administration

You can't defraud anything if you can't get treatment

Problem solved

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:36 | 5006361 praxis
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No one cares!  You can lie about your income and pass.  The .gov is sup to audit your case at some point but so far they haven't.  The Dem's are so determined to see this pig fly, they do not care about liars and cheats, anything to keep the illusion that this thing is working and will not be undone for political reasons.  It's a total vendetta thing.  The Medicaid expansion is hilarious.  The FEDs are going to pick up the bill for the first few years and then the states will evenually have to start coughing up a portion.  You do not have to verify anything with them.  You just pass, they literally have to take your word for it until they "audit" your case...but of course, they're not doing  it.  Oh and get this.  Emperor shit head now gives you a 3 month grace period for the "marketplace" private health plans if you cant pay.  So you can deadbeat for 3 months before they allegedly kick you off the policy....I seriously wonder if they're even doing that!?!!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:32 | 5006365 franzpick
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The owner of the plantation dies, the descendants ignore taking care of the estate - and the 'help' assist in removing the hidden cash, the silverware, the jewelry, the firearms and other valuables. 

Wake up and pay attention to how the federal help is robbing your dwindling American estate.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:44 | 5006389 robertocarlos
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Do you have to be an American to apply?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:55 | 5006824 BurningFuld
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No.  On page 728 near the bottom it clearly says you just need a US phone number and offers examples of how to get one. Like: http://www.tollfreeforwarding.com/ That way you can apply from anywhere on earth.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:47 | 5006390 divingengineer
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Own it bitches!!!

 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 00:34 | 5006457 Ariadne
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slavery looks like this

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 00:45 | 5006468 syntaxterror
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Bankrupt the motherfucker. The sooner the better.

Fuck Uncle Remus!!!

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 01:24 | 5006518 pakled
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Remember that old board game called "Lie, Cheat, and Steal? I can't find mine.

 

 

Not needed, really.

 

 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:59 | 5006904 Renfield
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It's in the box marked "Monopoly". You know, where the purpose of the game is to drive the other players into bankruptcy?

A lot of those old games were great, very educational. Remember "Stock Ticker"? I learned heaps from that as a kid.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 01:41 | 5006534 GoldenDonuts
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So how exactly can the IRS expect Joe lunch bucket to have his tax records up to date when they can't keep the emails on record?  And just how do they not have several backups?  And if the emails were sent using a non IRS account then that is telling in itself.  Oh and that web coo. Will have backups for them.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 02:44 | 5006576 syntaxterror
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Most of the tens of thousands of Central American children bull rushing the border will be applying soon. And approved no doubt.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 07:02 | 5006731 negative rates
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You can't short the kids, especially if they have been crying all their lives.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 02:49 | 5006584 thamnosma
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I've lived through quite a few incompetent or even malicious presidents, but NOTHING approaching the evil of this man and his comrades.   He's pushing the country toward breakdown and perhaps a very violent one.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 05:15 | 5006691 B2u
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Someone is repeating themselves when they say "incompetent government".  

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 07:29 | 5006744 shovelhead
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Seriously,

Did anyone really think that people who signed up for Obamacare would not automatically get the subsidy no matter how much they make?

I knew it, you knew it and they knew it.

Even retarded Pajama Boy knew it too.

This is what is called a sucessful Democrat program.

Buying votes...forever. *

 

* or until the printers dry up.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:15 | 5006844 BeetleBailey
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no need for printers...they think up money.....50 ka billion fits on one sheet nice and easy

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 07:46 | 5006756 Catullus
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"People" aren't getting the subsidy. The insurance company is.

They underwrite the health put option and get cash from the government. That's it. That's what Obamacare is. It's a gigantic bailout of the insurance industry. They're just selling it as progress and if you oppose it's because you're some sort of nut job.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:03 | 5006773 Urban Redneck
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Can someone explain this subsidy scam to me?

The way the law reads (which doesn't necessarily mean shit), the subsidy is a tax credit.

In order to receive the subsidy- one must do atleast 2 things: 1) sign up for losercare and 2) file a tax return. (in a remotely functional system they would also have to pay for losercare, but with dumb cunts like Kathleen Sibelius and Louis Lerner at the responsible agencies, that's probably asking a bit much)

Is the IRS mailing checks to people today or something?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:13 | 5006779 roadhazard
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Yeah, if your insurance company spends more that 20% of your preimum on itself it must refund that amout back to you.

That fucking Obama.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:57 | 5006827 Urban Redneck
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But if the customer hasn't paid, why would the insurance company send them a check?

HHS might have no idea how to to count to 10 without fingers or build website, but an insurance company is always going to know exactly where to send the bill and for how much, while at the same time blaming some "other department" when it comes to unjustifiable delays in issuing claim checks.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:58 | 5006903 Catullus
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Yeah... If they realize more than 20% profit...

Of course they can retain reserves for any actuarial risk they want to account for.

I hope you're being sarcastic.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:24 | 5006791 djsmps
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Can someone explain this subsidy scam to me?

It's real simple. First, you must 1) sign up for losercare and 2) file a tax return.

It is an advance tax credit that is paid directly to the insurer every month.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:46 | 5006818 Urban Redneck
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Thanks,

That makes a lot of sense- insurance companies actually profiting and not having any incentive to reduce fraud which in turn drives up everyone's cost.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:10 | 5006778 roadhazard
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Even with subsidized ACA you do have to pay some premium to get a subsidy. As everyone found out ACA is not "free". You can have a million fake applicants but ony the fake applicants who PAY get subsided. If you don't pay that means you are on Medicaid. Fake applicant, see you at the hospital for your fake problem.

More bullshit. Washington Post = Right leaning.

Hows that repubican alternative health care plan coming, lol, wingers crack me up.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 16:39 | 5007861 sylviasays
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"Washington Post = Right leaning."

Only a crazy far-left Marxist wingnut would consider the Washington com-Post to be right leaning. Roadhazard needs to quit spending that welfare check on crack and meth. 


Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:22 | 5006790 djsmps
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Even with subsidized ACA you do have to pay some premium to get a subsidy.

That's not the case. You can be fully subsidized and pay zero in payments and have a zero deductible. I have a Silver plan with Coventry. The plan details are:

Monthly premium (per individual)      $0
Medical deductible (per individual)     $0
Prescription drug deductible (per individual)     $0
Out-of-pocket maximum (per individual)     $1,500
Health care out-of-pocket maximum (per individual)     $1,500
Prescription drug out-of-pocket maximum (per individual)     Included in Medical
Copayments/Coinsurance:
Primary doctor     No Charge 
Specialist doctor     $25
Inpatient doctor     10%
In-Patient facility     10%
Emergency room     $100
Generic prescription     $5
Preferred brand prescription     $30
Non-preferred brand prescription     $55
Specialty prescription     20%

 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:13 | 5006841 BeetleBailey
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100% correct

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:51 | 5006892 Catullus
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Have you ever tried to go to a doctor that accepts your insurance?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 08:43 | 5006808 CheapBastard
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Well, at least Moosheels software

buddies made off with millions.....

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:23 | 5006850 Seasmoke
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Bring back the Richard Simmons Obamacare video !!!

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:44 | 5006871 thamnosma
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(off topic) Just want to help the Tylers keep up on IS.   They're on the move again.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/24555989/jihadists-kill-85-syria-troop...

I wonder if Hezbollah is concerned about IS coming at them in the opposite direction from Israel....

 

Oh, almost forgot, the US embassy in Libya has been evacuated and the staff fled to Tunisia.  Another success story.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 09:55 | 5006898 grunk
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Fake people use less health care services.

Obama is going to sign an Executive Order making them citizens.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:10 | 5007212 insanelysane
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1000% WRONG!!!

Fake people are used to bill the system for services never rendered which result in 100% profit.  When I was a young lad, I switched jobs and insurance companies.  My new insurance had different eye care so I went to a new doc.  Old doctor's "system" sent me a bill for my yearly exam after my old insurance company rejected the bill because it was expired.  I sent the entire thing to the State Attorney General's office and I didn't get another bill.  Even if you're not going to the doctor, your doctor may be billing the system.  It's just easier if the doctors set up fake patients, even if they pay a premium, think what they can bill.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:11 | 5006912 AdvancingTime
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Obamacare did not address the big problem with healthcare. It is ridiculously expensive because many people have convinced themselves of  three things: The answers for good health outcomes rest with pills and procedures rather than good diet and exercise. Death at late stages of life is some strange, recent development in human history which justifies and necessitates extreme, exorbitant payouts to delay it for every possible last second.  And last but not least, thinking that mixing all the myriad of "health care" transactions that result from the just mentioned concepts with health insurance as originally conceived to protect a person from unforeseeable, catastrophic events like an accident is a good idea.

Just because we can does not mean we should, healthcare is like a tape worm ever ready and always wanting to grow larger. More on why healthcare is so expensive in the article below.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2013/05/healthcare-going-forward.html

 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:25 | 5006927 RevRex
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"but but but boath party's hour the same an Busch did it two"

 

 

 

This is such a target rich environment.....

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:20 | 5007090 dobermangang
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Close enough for Government work!  

 

It's soooo easy to spend other people's money.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:58 | 5007098 sschu
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What is sometimes bad for the country is good for the Kingdom.  If you think that politics/elections/laws are the answer or will change our circumstance, good luck with that.

We need a revival.  Put you faith in all that matters, Jesus Christ Himself.

sschu

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:28 | 5007119 Coletrane
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just one more way to pump up the numbers and make it look successful 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 18:45 | 5008160 Ex Cathedra
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Just like earnings management.  A la Jack Welch.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:36 | 5007137 q99x2
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Lets vote for a president of the United States of America next time instead of a representative to the UN and then make the center for the US Government in whatever state the elected president resides in.

I hereby resign as a slave of the UN.

I F'n quit.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 14:13 | 5007547 ChargingHandle
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In Oregon alone,  4600 illegal aliens were granted subsidies for Obamacare. Verified easily with a basic Web search. 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 18:46 | 5008162 Ex Cathedra
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Liberty Blitzkreig?

ROFLMAO!

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