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ObamaFraud: GAO Study Finds Almost All Fake Applicants Are Approved For Subsidized ObamaCare
Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg
ObamaFraud: GAO Study Finds Almost All Fake Applicants are Approved for Subsidized ObamaCare
Although it hasn’t been a focus for a while, the incompetent disaster that has been the ObamaCare rollout has been well documented on this site. Here are just a few posts on the subject:
The Obama Administration is Forcing Insurance Companies to Keep Quiet About ObamaCare Problems
Woman Touted as Obamacare Success Story is Now Kicked Off Obamacare
Humana Warns of “‘Adverse ObamaCare Enrollment Mix”
Computer Security Expert Claims he Hacked the ObamaCare Website in 4 Minutes
Serfs Up – Average Healthcare Premiums Have Soared 39%-56% Post Obamacare
Well the hits just keep on coming. The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO), recently conducted a study in which investigators attempted to use fake identities to sign up for subsidized healthcare under ObamaCare. The results are frightening. All but one phony applicant was successful. Moreover, the GAO more broadly notes that “about 2.6 million ‘inconsistencies’ existed among applicants who had chosen a health plan.”
The Washington Post reports that:
In undercover tests of the new federal health insurance marketplace, government investigators have been able to procure health plans and federal subsidies for fake applicants with fictitious documents, according to findings that will be disclosed to lawmakers Wednesday.
The results of the inquiry by the Government Accountability Office are evidence of still-imperfect work by specialists intended to assist new insurance customers as well as government contractors hired to verify that coverage and subsidies are legitimate. The GAO also pointed to flaws that linger in the marketplace’s Web site, HealthCare.gov.
According to testimony to be delivered before a House Ways and Means subcommittee, undercover GAO investigators tried to obtain health plans for a dozen fictitious applicants online or by phone, using invalid or missing Social Security numbers or inaccurate citizenship information.
All but one of the fake applicants ended up getting subsidized coverage — and have kept it. In one instance, an application was denied but then approved on a second try. In six other attempts to sign up fake applicants via in-person assisters, just one assister accurately told an investigator that the applicant’s income was too high for a subsidy.
The GAO’s account of fictitious applicants obtaining subsidized coverage goes beyond a related problem that surfaced this spring and that the investigators also cited: The government may be paying incorrect insurance subsidies to a significant share of the 5.4 million Americans who signed up for health plans for this year through the federal marketplace.
The GAO testimony contains updates on that problem, saying that, as of mid-July, about 2.6 million “inconsistencies” existed among applicants who had chosen a health plan and that 650,000 of them had been resolved.
Just more proof of a completely disconnected and incompetent government. As if you needed any more evidence.
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one step closer to socialism.
One Step Closer to Military Coup.
One Step Closer to Multiple Impeachments.
One Step Closer to Rigorous Inspections, Audits, Independent Auditing Reforms, Accounting Reforms, and Military Style Inspections of US Government Agencies.
-No Glory for GAO
-No Glory for CBO
-No Glory for US Ratings Agencies
-No Glory for Wall Street
-No Glory for US Corporations
-An End to US Congressional Lobbying
-An End to Blackmail of Supreme Court
-An End to NSA Spying on Citizens
-An End to NDAA Civil Rights loss in this Dirty War, and an End to the US Patriot Act
-An End to the Federal Reserve Abuses to the Little Guy on Main Street
-Welcome the new Era of Anti-Trust, Anti-Racketeering, Anti-Lobbying, Anti-Big government, Anti-Defense Subsidies, and Anti-Israel Lobby
Clap yourself on the back. It is a celebration.
Fraud and change.
Faked applicants.
Aliens.
One step closer to Civil War 2 / War of the Worlds !?
The Obozo Admin will give free sign-up to ObozoCare...
For all the illegal undocumented DemoCraps flooding across the Southern border...
And then claim fabulous enrollment and sign-up numbers!
And the MSM will have orgasms in reporting those sign-up numbers!
REPEAT:
This is the problem with ALL gov. programs, and why GOP/conservatives are against them.
They operate on the "honor system". For a largely DISHONORABLE public......using MY money.
Check bank accounts/earnings. Cross check Disability/Welfare/food stamp/IRS records.
I'm NOT against helping someone temporarily "down on their luck".
I RESENT supporting FREELOADERS, ILLEGALS, Gamers of the system !
They prolly had sympathic symptoms, and so were accepted accordingly.
Cloward Piven. Obamacare was never designed to "work". It was designed to overload and break the system. In that respect, it's working perfectly.
when you consider the number of people around the world who are being denied access to medical care, you realize that it's only a tiny step forward to provide insurance to all residents (whether documented or undocumented) in the US.
a better, and fairer, plan would be to extend this much-needed service globally
and remember: fictitious persons need insurance, too
"when you consider the number of people around the world who are being denied access to medical care, you realize that it's only a tiny step forward to provide insurance to all residents (whether documented or undocumented) in the US. a better, and fairer, plan would be to extend this much-needed service globally and remember: fictitious persons need insurance, too"
Either you forgot your sacrcasm tag or you're delusional. How will health insurance programs controlled by corrupt big government elites provide better access to medical care for people around the world?
Healthcare is an inalienable right, doncha know. Democrats say so. The pope agrees.
And this cuts to the heart of the most divisive piece of legislation in U.S. history: is healthcare a basic human right like freedom and the pursuit of happiness?
I do not believe so, but I seem to be in a diminishing minority.
It could be that, as the economic lanscape of the country has been decimated, more and more people stopped paying the exorbitant prices healthcare companies wanted. As such, they make contribution mandatory and now we all have to pay for it whether we want to or not.
I am not wise enough to make a judgement as to whether or not healthcare is a basic human right. I am wise enough to know that being healthy is a state that is achieved, to a large extent, by personal choices. I am also wise enough to know that we do not have healthcare but "sickness management" as the root cause of disease is rarely, if ever, addressed. Rather the solution usually required pills, pills and more pills as well as treatment, treatment and more treatment. I am also wise enough to know that disease is on the rise and not the other way around. Just look at cancer statistics, for example.
So, I say, it is a way to keep everyone on the hamster wheel.
GOP elites are the other wing of the Collectivist Party. As for "conservatives", they are for government subsidies/handouts as long as they are the receivers.
"As for "conservatives", they are for government subsidies/handouts as long as they are the receivers."
Only a big government socialist libtard used to taking would make this assumption about all conservatives.
Using the moniker "liberals" to explain socialsim and new age pinkos seems to give liberty a bad name. Prefurably they should be called the "left" cause they have left all scensible thoughts forgot.
You're totally clueless. Show me a conservative owned business that doesn't lobby some level of government for subsidies, assistance or restrictions on their competition. Show me just five (5) conservatives that refuse Social Security benefits.
As to how my statement makes me a "socialists libtard", I can't even fathom. I'm about as committed an anarcho-capitalist (that's libertarian for your simpletons) as can be.
Next time, consider alternate explanations before you open your mouth and say something even stupider than you actually are.
GOP/conservatives "against" them?!!!
LOL!!!!Boehner and the House can defund ALL this shit in20minutes with a vote if they really wanted to do anything about it.
Mebbe the NSA "made them do it"
". . . why GOP/conservatives are against them."
If this is true, please tell us why the GOP (along with their partners in crime, the Democrats) "gave" us Medicare Part D.
"Check bank accounts/earnings. Cross check Disability/Welfare/food stamp/IRS records."
The NSA is doing just that and much more. Are you happy now?
"I RESENT supporting FREELOADERS, ILLEGALS, Gamers of the system !"
Anti-Semite!
In the beginning we had people "gaming the system". As things have deteriorated, I'm finding the system itself is the game.
There is no need for .gov to force you to help people down on their luck. ACA, however, isn't about helping people. This country has a glorious history of individual charity. The ACA only appears necessary because of the concerted effort to make charitable giving impractical or unrewarding. This is about control. The ACA is simply a mechanism to further the control by the few of the many.
Once .gov starts taking from you to give to others you have landed on a slippery slope and you don't control gravity.
Nah. Another step closer to choosing sides. Good vs evil. Thats all.
Why Obamacare without subsidies would be a disaster
An Obamacare Architect Said Something In 2012 That Could Unravel The Law
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/jonathan-gruber-halbig-case-subsidies-michael-cannon-2014-7#ixzz38ZtZT4KQ
duplicate.
I'm not sure the GAO gets it. The backdoor/frontdoor for bogus applicants was a design issue. If it weren't not for this feature, POTUS would have never been able to hit his target numbers.
OFA had a mini army off applicant churners to help hit the targets...that's how they roll in Chicago and now DC.
I’m making $3000 a week signing up people for Obamacare on my home computer!!! My system is so simple I can train any body to do it!!! Last week I signed up my dog and my wife’s 3 cats!!! They qualified right away and now they’re signing up people from all walks of life to get the same great Obamacare benefits!!! You can too!!! Call me and soon you’ll be on your way to fun and profit making the Obamacare home referral difference!!!
Can you get me a reduced interest rate on a home I shouldn't qualify for ?
Free phone...check
Free rent check check
Free bealth care check
Free food check
Free utilities check
We r fucked
check !
Chief Wonder Bread,
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for helping out your fellow uninsured Americans. It is people like you that will help to achieve our goals in the upcoming elections. I look forward to receiving your substantial campaign contributions.
GAO Launched an Obamacare Sting Operation—and Almost All Fake Insurance Applications Were Approved
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Excellent. I have 3 older cats and they are really starting to rack up the vet bills. Question, will O-Care cover the cost of the meat processor when it is time for them to er, go? I mean, I fed the little bastards for umpteen years, I oughta get something out of the deal - I am sure I can find an ethnic group in a college town that enjoys cat.
When liberals like me start to sympathize with that notion of military coup, expressed above, we're in a whole lot of trouble.
I'm a liberal too, as opposed to the large group of 'illiberals' out there. Illiberal: a statist voter, thus by definition neither liberal nor conservative.
Liberals are in just as much trouble as conservatives. (These groups are not necessarily opposite.)
Fraud and same.
Wow
There won't be a military coup. Why do you think Obama is purging the officer ranks?
lmao
Obamacare is how the government works these days. Just rubberstamp the approval code on applicants you want to receive government payouts or licensing, be they oil company executives, drug companies with miracle drugs that kill or bad software vendors. Almost all of Obama's henchmen are multi-millionaires thanks to their government service. By the way, this is not socialism, it is fascism.
How often are election promises broken??? How often are laws enacted that were not even debated during the election process??? How often does the "other" party get voted in, just to continue with the direction of the original party???
Do the plebs win when medical costs, or any other costs for that matter, are pumped up to artificial highs?
"Socialism" is the packaging. "Theft" is the package. The banksters get the T-bone. The plebs get the scraps. The plebs can't get the T-bone because they have no power. The banksters can't get the T-bone unless they promise to give it to the plebs. But the banksters get the first cut of the steak, and even if it is only a small cut, they get to control a lot of steaks. Or, in this case, the medical industry gets first cut of the steaks - but then has to shuffle most of it to the insurance industry so the banksters win again!
It ain't socialism until the plebs have the power. The banksters have the power. The plebs get the scraps.
"Have mercy, I have a wife and three kids to feed."
"Have mercy, I have three thousand workers to feed."
"... and those three thousand workers have three thousand wives and nine thousand children."
"Have mercy, I have ten million students to feed. You need to lend them some money!"
Socialism is the packaging. Theft is the package.
Does your medical insurance cover the whole bill or do you still have to shovel money out of your own pocket to cover some kind of "gap" between insurance coverage and the bill in your hand? Who benefits?
Re "the banksters get the first cut of the steak, and even if it is only a small cut, they get to control a lot of steaks" :
The banksters also get to determine the size of the steak. They can also make it bigger.
NWO is what is inside the last little Russian doll, a Matryoshka of bad tidings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matryoshka_doll
Brought to you by the globalists and their implementation monkeys around the world.
When you get the ebola cough, make sure you hug one of them to show your appreciation for their devotion to your well being.
"make sure you hug one of them"
Hugs are so blue team. Be non-partisan and shake hands with them all.
FORWARD
Are we still pissing on a dead ember...
Who but a maroon doesn't know that Obamacare is also known as Healthcare for Dummies?
They should conduct similar studies in other entitlement programs, I'm sure the results would be "Shocking".
Barry: E Plurubus Unum
(cut to Wizard of Oz)
Wizard: E Plurubus Unum
-There's No Place Like Utopia, Joel Gilbert
hey america!
the gubmint just destroyed your health care system....and you did nothing.
the gubmint just destroyed your national borders....and you did nothing.
the gubmint just destroyed a civilian airliner to demonize the russians....and you did nothing.
it there any outrage that will make get off your asses and do something? anything?
oh yeah.....somebody said the "n" word.
stupid bitches.
.
You must mean the word "NO". 'Cause, it doesn't get a lot of use and when it does, it gets ignored.
No Bug: Working as intended.
Thats a feature, baby. I stold it from Steve Jobs.
Its 'ard now that Steve's gone...
clove-piven, whatever, they were called, along with Alinsky, plotted this course long ago, seems to be coming to fruition
Come on brother, it's the Clown-Punting theorem....
May be why the evil clown socks are all the fashion rage, starting with that ole luciferian Poppy Bush.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/25/george-h-w-bush-has-the-best-socks/
Isn't it amazing that, across this vast wasteland of "forty million uninsured" only six million (roughly) signed up?
#Glitchy
I signed up myself along with all my pets (cat, dog, hamster, rock). Figured it would be the patriotic thing to do.
My third cousin's co-worker's niece's best friend signed up through an ACA exchange and got a really good deal. Only $5.99 a month for a triple-platinum plan and before she was paying $10,000 a month for a bronze plan. She got a free iPhone (latest model) with unlimited text and internet and an iPad for signing up. She doesn't have a doctor yet but plans to visit one soon -- she hasn't found a participating one in her area yet. It only took her five minutes to sign up start to finish and she didn't have to give any personal information.
lol...#FortyMillionServedOrBust.
Oh yeah, before I sign off for the evening, more fun with the inanity of hashtags & "rogue agents"...
"The reason given for Lerner's hard drive — possibly containing incriminating emails from and to the former head of the IRS Tax Exempt division — being destroyed and recycled, according to the IRS in the affidavit, was that a team of its technical experts had determined the drive was irreparably damaged and had to be recycled.
Except that was not true.
On Tuesday, House Ways and Means Committee investigators said that they had a chance to talk to the technical experts inside the IRS who actually examined Lerner's computer, and that the experts said the hard drive in question was merely "scratched" and most of the data on it was indeed recoverable."
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2014/07/busted-irs-caught-lying-to-both-federal.html
#Scratchy ;-)
in China, they don't fuck around. Case would already be closed, as would be the lid on her coffin.
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Deliberately destroying evidence pertaining to the investigation of possible criminal activity is a crime. So is lying about it to Congress and the courts as part of a cover-up of that activity.
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Isn't that exactly what Allan Greenspan, the FED, et al did concerning evidence related to illegal securites the ONI was investigating that would have cleared nomally on 9/12/11 if it wasn't a plane doing a 360 to hit the section of the Pentagon where the ONI was including all their case files and such. Not only that 3 buildings fell that housed all the back up evidence related to those securities. So what did Greenspan do he had them cleared under extra ordinary circumstances with no paper or computer records to tie a name to who owned said securities...... They destroyed evidence into a criminal investigation a high level DOD investigation and no one was charged with a crime for destroying evidence. You don't do that unless very fucking high level people are in on the fix. That happened and is not speculation.
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Someone really needs to nail that fucker to a white cross to send a message but not before getting a confession out of him first.
hobo -- it was patriotic. The next time you go to the airport the DHS will cross-reference your ACA status and give you a love pat instead of a groin grope.
That's a relief, now I can enjoy my malaysian flight without my junk getting bruised.
Yeah, well we signed up our junk parts. There's Captain Wang, Commander Cocque, Admiral Anus.... And they ALL have SPECIAL NEEDS!!!!
You mean preexisting conditions?
Sargeant Scro would prefer you keep that under wraps.
Private Private reporting for dew-tee, Surh!
heyyyyyyyyyyy fuck you ...show your uni you maggot
Stand at attention, little soldiers! I have been promoted all the way to Major Prick!
tracer echo
OK masked dude so we lied. Whatya gonna do?
The ACA website didn't cost 700 million. That 7 was a down payment on the IRS system that is going to control the ACA. And every other detail of the sheep farm. Iff men are sheep. FAIL
Ignatius' principle works both ways. Reversing it I have turned sheep into men. Much easier than raising children, same as herding a congregation in the right direction.
"OK masked dude so we lied."
I trust you're speaking in the third person because I really hate liars & thieves.
Or, in a skittle-shitting rainbow-inhabiting unicorn kind of optimistic vein, perhaps of those 40M uninsured, there was still an ember of intellect left that raised a red flag.
Nah. The reality is more likely that the ember is with the scammers in the 6M that did sign-up, albeit fraudulently. Future politicians and lobbyists, the lot.
Maybe the remaining 36 million are waiting for a little more website security for this .gov phishing expedition ;-)
Well, that too has some positive implications.
Can't funnel fiat to the big corps. that wrote Obamacare if you deny an application.
Who wrote Obamacare? Search Robert Creamer, and his firm Democracy Partners. He's been a political activist on the left for 40 years, very close to Obama.
"husband of Marxist Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, an Illinois Democrat who demands a “single payer” healthcare delivery system. Creamer’s book calls for the “democratization of wealth”, and the “progressive control of governments around the world”.
Creamer says that Democrats could win a permanent majority in Congress “by passing a national health care bill, turning more people into wards of government, that works to grow government; and by giving amnesty to all illegals, thereby creating, virtually overnight, a large new constituency of Democratic voters”. With 50% of the country on some form of welfare, Creamer’s plan has progressed at a very rapid pace."
This is who wrote Obamacare, a Progressive
here's one link, there's many articles about him on the web
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12/15/the-man-who-wrote-the-blueprint-f...
Congresswoman Janice Schakowsky was born Janice Danoff in 1944, in the city of Chicago, the daughter of Jewish immigrants. She represents a large portion of Chicago's North Side and is considered to be the most "progressive" (aka radical far-left Marxist communist) in the Congress. On March 11, 2004, Schakowsky's husband, lobbyist Robert Creamer, the executive director of the Illinois Public Action Fund, was indicted in federal court on 16 counts of bank fraud involving three alleged check-kiting schemes in the mid-1990s, leading several banks to experience shortfalls of at least $2.3 million. In August 2005, Creamer pleaded guilty to one count of failure to collect withholding tax, and bank fraud for writing checks with insufficient funds. All of the money was repaid. Schakowsky was not accused of any wrongdoing. Schakowsky served on the organization's board during the time the crimes occurred, and Schakowsky signed the IRS filings along with her husband. U.S. District Judge James B. Moran noted no one suffered "out of pocket losses," and Creamer acted not out of greed but in an effort to keep his community action group going without cutting programs, though Creamer paid his own $100,000 salary with fraudulently obtained funds. On April 5, 2006, Creamer was sentenced to five months in prison and 11 months of house arrest. Creamer served his five-month incarceration at the Federal Correction Institute in Terre Haute, Indiana and was released on November 3, 2006.
But then the biggest problems with Obamacare is that it is another Unconstitutional treasonous assault against the American people.
Sorry to be nit-picking, but I'm not sure about that word, "treasonous". I notice zillions of people use it these days but is it right? Treasonous? I know "traitor", "treason", "treachery", "treacherous". Whatever happened to "treacherous"???
Back to your regular programming.
I use "treasonous" as defined here: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/treasonous
Meaning "treasonable."
And I use treason, treasonous, and treasonable from an Article 3, Section 3 point of view:
"And I use guillotine with a pol, crat and bankster in mind."
Treason cannot exist, since the Untied States no longer exists. In fact, nations do not exist. Nations are merely human constructs.
Now the ground...that thing that everyone eventually hits, despite all attempts to evade reality (READ:gravity)....that shit is fucking real. Enjoy the crater.
Bullshit. Treason exists in the hearts of men.
Unless you're like Dick Cheney, in which case you wear it like skin.
"And I use guillotine with a pol, crat and bankster in mind."
There's your problem right there. The guillotine works better when they are in it, not in your mind.
Thanks kchrisc. I still don't know what happened to "treacherous" but you got me fair and square.
One step closer to refunding social security and medicare slated ponzi scam. ObamaCare was merely a tool to redistribute funds stolen to invest back into contribing preexistiing investment pools.
When you steal from peter to pay paul.,someones hand gets caught in the cookie jar.
Parasites at the top. Parasites at the bottom.
No matter about fraud though. Indeed the more, the merrier. As long as the insurors purchase the requisite amount of government securities each quarter, then it's all going according to plan.
Thank you! Thank you! But I couldn't have done it without the help of thousands of zombified, overpaid bureaucrats and a shit load of funny money! God bless and goodnight... suckers!
They could just roll everyone under the Veterans Health Administration
You can't defraud anything if you can't get treatment
Problem solved
No one cares! You can lie about your income and pass. The .gov is sup to audit your case at some point but so far they haven't. The Dem's are so determined to see this pig fly, they do not care about liars and cheats, anything to keep the illusion that this thing is working and will not be undone for political reasons. It's a total vendetta thing. The Medicaid expansion is hilarious. The FEDs are going to pick up the bill for the first few years and then the states will evenually have to start coughing up a portion. You do not have to verify anything with them. You just pass, they literally have to take your word for it until they "audit" your case...but of course, they're not doing it. Oh and get this. Emperor shit head now gives you a 3 month grace period for the "marketplace" private health plans if you cant pay. So you can deadbeat for 3 months before they allegedly kick you off the policy....I seriously wonder if they're even doing that!?!!
The owner of the plantation dies, the descendants ignore taking care of the estate - and the 'help' assist in removing the hidden cash, the silverware, the jewelry, the firearms and other valuables.
Wake up and pay attention to how the federal help is robbing your dwindling American estate.
Do you have to be an American to apply?
No. On page 728 near the bottom it clearly says you just need a US phone number and offers examples of how to get one. Like: http://www.tollfreeforwarding.com/ That way you can apply from anywhere on earth.
Own it bitches!!!
slavery looks like this
Bankrupt the motherfucker. The sooner the better.
Fuck Uncle Remus!!!
Remember that old board game called "Lie, Cheat, and Steal? I can't find mine.
Not needed, really.
It's in the box marked "Monopoly". You know, where the purpose of the game is to drive the other players into bankruptcy?
A lot of those old games were great, very educational. Remember "Stock Ticker"? I learned heaps from that as a kid.
So how exactly can the IRS expect Joe lunch bucket to have his tax records up to date when they can't keep the emails on record? And just how do they not have several backups? And if the emails were sent using a non IRS account then that is telling in itself. Oh and that web coo. Will have backups for them.
Most of the tens of thousands of Central American children bull rushing the border will be applying soon. And approved no doubt.
You can't short the kids, especially if they have been crying all their lives.
I've lived through quite a few incompetent or even malicious presidents, but NOTHING approaching the evil of this man and his comrades. He's pushing the country toward breakdown and perhaps a very violent one.
Someone is repeating themselves when they say "incompetent government".
Seriously,
Did anyone really think that people who signed up for Obamacare would not automatically get the subsidy no matter how much they make?
I knew it, you knew it and they knew it.
Even retarded Pajama Boy knew it too.
This is what is called a sucessful Democrat program.
Buying votes...forever. *
* or until the printers dry up.
no need for printers...they think up money.....50 ka billion fits on one sheet nice and easy
"People" aren't getting the subsidy. The insurance company is.
They underwrite the health put option and get cash from the government. That's it. That's what Obamacare is. It's a gigantic bailout of the insurance industry. They're just selling it as progress and if you oppose it's because you're some sort of nut job.
Can someone explain this subsidy scam to me?
The way the law reads (which doesn't necessarily mean shit), the subsidy is a tax credit.
In order to receive the subsidy- one must do atleast 2 things: 1) sign up for losercare and 2) file a tax return. (in a remotely functional system they would also have to pay for losercare, but with dumb cunts like Kathleen Sibelius and Louis Lerner at the responsible agencies, that's probably asking a bit much)
Is the IRS mailing checks to people today or something?
Yeah, if your insurance company spends more that 20% of your preimum on itself it must refund that amout back to you.
That fucking Obama.
But if the customer hasn't paid, why would the insurance company send them a check?
HHS might have no idea how to to count to 10 without fingers or build website, but an insurance company is always going to know exactly where to send the bill and for how much, while at the same time blaming some "other department" when it comes to unjustifiable delays in issuing claim checks.
Yeah... If they realize more than 20% profit...
Of course they can retain reserves for any actuarial risk they want to account for.
I hope you're being sarcastic.
Can someone explain this subsidy scam to me?
It's real simple. First, you must 1) sign up for losercare and 2) file a tax return.
It is an advance tax credit that is paid directly to the insurer every month.
Thanks,
That makes a lot of sense- insurance companies actually profiting and not having any incentive to reduce fraud which in turn drives up everyone's cost.
Even with subsidized ACA you do have to pay some premium to get a subsidy. As everyone found out ACA is not "free". You can have a million fake applicants but ony the fake applicants who PAY get subsided. If you don't pay that means you are on Medicaid. Fake applicant, see you at the hospital for your fake problem.
More bullshit. Washington Post = Right leaning.
Hows that repubican alternative health care plan coming, lol, wingers crack me up.
"Washington Post = Right leaning."
Only a crazy far-left Marxist wingnut would consider the Washington com-Post to be right leaning. Roadhazard needs to quit spending that welfare check on crack and meth.
Even with subsidized ACA you do have to pay some premium to get a subsidy.
That's not the case. You can be fully subsidized and pay zero in payments and have a zero deductible. I have a Silver plan with Coventry. The plan details are:
Monthly premium (per individual) $0
Medical deductible (per individual) $0
Prescription drug deductible (per individual) $0
Out-of-pocket maximum (per individual) $1,500
Health care out-of-pocket maximum (per individual) $1,500
Prescription drug out-of-pocket maximum (per individual) Included in Medical
Copayments/Coinsurance:
Primary doctor No Charge
Specialist doctor $25
Inpatient doctor 10%
In-Patient facility 10%
Emergency room $100
Generic prescription $5
Preferred brand prescription $30
Non-preferred brand prescription $55
Specialty prescription 20%
100% correct
Have you ever tried to go to a doctor that accepts your insurance?
Well, at least Moosheels software
buddies made off with millions.....
Bring back the Richard Simmons Obamacare video !!!
(off topic) Just want to help the Tylers keep up on IS. They're on the move again.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/24555989/jihadists-kill-85-syria-troop...
I wonder if Hezbollah is concerned about IS coming at them in the opposite direction from Israel....
Oh, almost forgot, the US embassy in Libya has been evacuated and the staff fled to Tunisia. Another success story.
Fake people use less health care services.
Obama is going to sign an Executive Order making them citizens.
1000% WRONG!!!
Fake people are used to bill the system for services never rendered which result in 100% profit. When I was a young lad, I switched jobs and insurance companies. My new insurance had different eye care so I went to a new doc. Old doctor's "system" sent me a bill for my yearly exam after my old insurance company rejected the bill because it was expired. I sent the entire thing to the State Attorney General's office and I didn't get another bill. Even if you're not going to the doctor, your doctor may be billing the system. It's just easier if the doctors set up fake patients, even if they pay a premium, think what they can bill.
Obamacare did not address the big problem with healthcare. It is ridiculously expensive because many people have convinced themselves of three things: The answers for good health outcomes rest with pills and procedures rather than good diet and exercise. Death at late stages of life is some strange, recent development in human history which justifies and necessitates extreme, exorbitant payouts to delay it for every possible last second. And last but not least, thinking that mixing all the myriad of "health care" transactions that result from the just mentioned concepts with health insurance as originally conceived to protect a person from unforeseeable, catastrophic events like an accident is a good idea.
Just because we can does not mean we should, healthcare is like a tape worm ever ready and always wanting to grow larger. More on why healthcare is so expensive in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2013/05/healthcare-going-forward.html
"but but but boath party's hour the same an Busch did it two"
This is such a target rich environment.....
Close enough for Government work!
It's soooo easy to spend other people's money.
What is sometimes bad for the country is good for the Kingdom. If you think that politics/elections/laws are the answer or will change our circumstance, good luck with that.
We need a revival. Put you faith in all that matters, Jesus Christ Himself.
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just one more way to pump up the numbers and make it look successful
Just like earnings management. A la Jack Welch.
Lets vote for a president of the United States of America next time instead of a representative to the UN and then make the center for the US Government in whatever state the elected president resides in.
I hereby resign as a slave of the UN.
I F'n quit.
In Oregon alone, 4600 illegal aliens were granted subsidies for Obamacare. Verified easily with a basic Web search.
Liberty Blitzkreig?
ROFLMAO!