This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.

Pentagon Says Russia Preparing To Transfer "Powerful Weapons" To Ukraine

Tyler Durden's picture


No red lines, no YouTube clips, no "satellite images" of WMD this time: just more "straight to propaganda" speculation by the Pentagon. From Reuters:

The Pentagon said on Friday the transfer of heavy-caliber multiple-launch rocket systems from Russia to Ukrainian separatists appeared to be imminent with the arms close enough to the border they could be handed over "potentially today."


"We have indications that the Russians intend to supply heavier and more sophisticated multiple-launch rocket systems in the very near future," said Army Colonel Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman, adding that the weapons were in the over-200mm range.


Warren indicated the weapons had been seen getting closer to the border and the Pentagon believed a transfer was imminent and could happen "potentially today."


"We believe that they are able to transfer this equipment at any time, at any moment," he said.

So Russia "could", "potentially today" transfer rocket launchers to Ukraine. But wait, wasn't the same Pentagon reporting hours ago that Russia is now, with the entire world clearly watching, no longer even pretending to be not engaged and is firing at Ukraine forces directly from its own territory? Why would they stop now? And surely with every US spy satellite trained at east Ukraine, the moment this happens it will be blasted to every media outlet. Right?


A multiple-launch rocket system is a wheeled or tracked vehicle mounted with multiple tubes capable of firing a half dozen or more guided or unguided rockets in quick succession at targets scores of miles (km) away. The rockets are generally 100mm to 300mm, with those over 200mm in the heavier-caliber category.


"We're very concerned with the quantity and the capability of weapons flowing from Russia into the Ukrainian separatists' hands," Warren said.


"There has been a continuous flow over the last several weeks of weapons and equipment from Russia to Ukraine," he said, noting that the "most egregious example" was a column of more than 100 vehicles crossing the border.


The Pentagon's assessment that a transfer of heavy weaponry was imminent came as Russian authorities accused Ukraine of firing a volley of mortar rounds across the frontier into Russia on Friday while a group of investigators was in the area assessing reports of cross-border shooting.


A Russian security official said up to 40 mortar bombs fired by Ukrainian forces fell in the Russian province of Rostov near the border where Ukrainian government forces are fighting pro-Russian separatists. There were no reports of injuries.

Then there was this:


And then, just to hammer home the message that crazy Putin, the "West's Public Enemy Number One" is about to invade Ukraine, we get this from Reuters:


Ok, we get it: the former KGB spy is on full tilt and deserves every #hashtag the West can unleash. So please activate the sanctions already, those including Gazprom and not the purely theatrical ones to date, and let's all sit back and watch what happens to Europe's economy.

In the meantime, due to popular demand, here is some cover art courtesy of William Banzai.


- advertisements -

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:36 | 5004186 OldPhart
OldPhart's picture


Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:37 | 5004195 RevRex
RevRex's picture

Yep, Putin is a swetheart, it's not like he's ever poisoned any of his rivals with Polonium... I trust him 100%

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:38 | 5004204 RevRex
RevRex's picture

Cue the cowardly down arrowers who can't refute facts!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:40 | 5004213 SafelyGraze
SafelyGraze's picture

powerful weapon

they call it the Derivatives Anti-net-net Debt Manifestor


Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:41 | 5004225 whotookmyalias
whotookmyalias's picture

So the US doesn't hold the monopoly on arming the rest of the world?  I smell another cold war coming, or maybe a lukewarm or tepid war.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:45 | 5004247 toady
toady's picture

Exactly. Russia gets to arm both sides in this one.

Ruble ruble bill yo.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:56 | 5004283 Chief KnocAHoma
Chief KnocAHoma's picture

NATO will counter this with massive weapon sales to Ukraine. The war will heat up, but can the US supply enough Nat Gas to Europe for the winter months? I saw Red October... the Russians have subs and aren't afraid of fire works demonstrations.

Don't believe me... aks the Malaysians?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:01 | 5004310 sushi
sushi's picture

Report of Ukraine military purporting to say the MH17 shoot down was due to a poorly run Ukrainian excercise:


“On July 17 the commanding officer of 156th Anti-Aircraft Regiment was instructed to conduct a training exercise of ground troops stationed near Donetsk, which involved deploying the troops, and carrying out a routine tracking and destroying of targets with the Buk-M1 missile,” the source said.


The source added that the actual launch of the rockets was not intended.


The launch of WWI was not intended either.



Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:44 | 5004406 Pinto Currency
Pinto Currency's picture



Ukraine looks like it may have a desertion problem and is being routed in the East:

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:11 | 5004719 ACP
ACP's picture

Powerful weapons? Did they invent some kind of new triple-refried bean burrito?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:14 | 5004733 Son of Loki
Son of Loki's picture

<< powerful weapons >>


Pure arm pit sweat from 100 unshaven geriatric Ural Mt women bottled and undiluted.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:22 | 5004770 Pinto Currency
Pinto Currency's picture




Await warning of a mineshaft-gap with Russia from General Buck Turgidson II.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:24 | 5005091 ZerOhead
ZerOhead's picture

When they write about Hitler in the future they will describe him as like Putin...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:32 | 5005147 Dublinmick
Dublinmick's picture

The third antichrist

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 17:01 | 5005275 Lore
Lore's picture

Smarten up.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 17:28 | 5005379 TeamDepends
TeamDepends's picture

Ah yes, the doomsday machine.  Too bad this movie is being directed by rank amateurs and not Kubrick.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 17:52 | 5005474 crazzziecanuck
crazzziecanuck's picture

More Phun With Photoshop.  Here are the next two Newsweek covers that have been "leaked."

Must confess I'm ripping off Lee Camp's future headlines bit by making up future Newsweek covers.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 19:32 | 5005804 Mr. Lucky
Mr. Lucky's picture

Caption contest:  No more Mr. Nice Guy

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:30 | 5004797 Anusocracy
Anusocracy's picture

The US has more powerful weapons:

The smegma like substance that accumulates in the skin folds of millions of morbidly obese Americans.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:34 | 5004818 SF beatnik
SF beatnik's picture

If Putin had evil designs, he'd stand back and allow Ukraine to become yet another US Vietnam, this time pushing ourselves over the cliff, once and for all.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:53 | 5004935 Manthong
Manthong's picture

Ask yourself why it is OK for western Ukrainians to blast the crap out of eastern Ukrainians with heavy Russian weapons but it is NOT OK for eastern Ukrainians to blast the crap out of western Ukrainians invading  east Ukraine using heavy Russian weapons.

By the same logic the US should sponsor London in blasting the crap out of Scotland if it votes for independence in November.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:59 | 5004973 crazzziecanuck
crazzziecanuck's picture

Because "territorial integrity" is paramount.

Well, as long as you aren't a Kosovar Albanian, then it's partition time.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:06 | 5004998 Latina Lover
Latina Lover's picture

THe USSA is used to threatening anyone and everyone.   But times are achanging....

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 17:15 | 5005334 tncaver
tncaver's picture

Hey wetback lover, do you mine telling all the other squats to quit crossig into the US illegally. The country you love to hate has to take care of these peons. I for one would rather spend my money on American citizens not mexicans.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 03:34 | 5006602 zhandax
zhandax's picture

"The country you love to hate has to take care of these peons."

Actually they don't.  From the introduction of the sling, countries throughout history have simply shot invaders crossing their borders.  This may be the first country in history to cross the border themselves and advertise for foreign invaders to cross our border in order to pass an unfavorable immigration bill, though.  But then again, history is littered with examples of fucked-up political tactics.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:53 | 5005230 HamFistedIdiot
HamFistedIdiot's picture


you lost me there


things are pretty grim. the awake are VERY awake, while the masses walk around in a stupor. Mr. Putin, with a 4 hour lecture and the facts on his side, has a very difficult time overcoming the propaganda coming out of western media. You can thank Common Core -- and its Federally controlled predecessors --  for the acceptance of Putin = Bad by the average American. Will enough see through this? 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 21:44 | 5006158 conscious being
conscious being's picture

The whole world is watching, not just "exceptional" America.

The greater audience can end dollar hedgemony, by getting out of the dollar.  The shock to the system, of all that coming home may jolt the patient, bubus americanus, up off the table ... finally, to defend his interests.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 18:56 | 5005679 r0mulus
r0mulus's picture

He was already doing that though, it's called Iraq and Afghanistan.
They have a lot of first hand experiencing in knowing what a treasury sucking endeavour occupying middle eastern countries is.

This is a bit different. Ukraine is right on their doorstep. A comparable equivalent might be if Canada was being puppeted by China and the US responded by annexing Vancouver or Toronto: it'd be right there in our vulnerable underbelly and we'd be mad as fucking hell about it too.

All this in an independent country which for 200 of the last 225 years has been a part of something called Russia or the USSR.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:44 | 5004868 centerline
Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:53 | 5005228 Not Too Important
Not Too Important's picture

Desertion problem?

Poroshenko quit because he can't pay anyone, all the way down to the field cook. Those Uke soldiers are dying with no paychecks. Their families are starving, no healthcare, and they're being ordered to kill other Ukrainians.

They're fucking pissed, and if the generals don't shoot them in the back as they run, they're headed back to Kiev for some payback.

And this is all before the general public faces down IMF austerity for all the weaponry being shoved down their throats.

The big question is, are they using Depleted Uranium rounds, and turning eastern Ukraine into a lethal hot zone, while at the same time sterilizing themselves?

Very popular in Western armies, by the way. Western soldiers have been self-sterilizing for two decades or more. All that military surplus given to police departments? Still radioactive. Take a long drive in that MRAP, sheriff. Oh, what, you weren't told?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:21 | 5004423 Jack Burton
Jack Burton's picture

If true, and I am not saying it is, it would be the secondtime Ukraine has shot down a passanger jet with a anti aircarft missile during training operations. Not long after 9/11 Ukraine shot down one over Crimea while training operations of their systems. Until Russia provided evidence including radars and radio transcripts and black boxes, the Ukrainian government denied having anything to do with the shoot down. Now, does that sound familiar?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:59 | 5004638 Anusocracy
Anusocracy's picture

One might start thinking that both were deliberate.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:15 | 5004739 sushi
sushi's picture

Speaking of evidence does anyone else find it strange that the USSA reports having satellite imagery of a Ukrainian Buk-M1 position for which it is claimed that the crew was on a boozer due to the number of beer bottles found littering the emplacement?

If you have the technical capability to count the damn beer bottles it must also be possible to image a 20 feet missile and all of the associated flashbang. And if you can see a 20 foot missile then it should also be possible to view the 50 foot TELAR that launched it. 

But sadly the only thing we get from the billions spent on sat recon and other arcane arts is a beer bottle count.

"Where are the enemy positions, soldier?"

"Over by that large pile of brown glass yonder, sir"



Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:31 | 5004803 SDShack
SDShack's picture

Not only the missle, and the launcher, but where are the photos of the 30,000 foot plume of smoke the missle left behind en route to the airliner?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 17:15 | 5005308 socalbeach
socalbeach's picture

There's this sattelite video, but I don't know it it's legit.

(July 24, 2014)

Boeing fired at APU, with territories controlled Kolomoisky.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 22:56 | 5006287 conscious being
conscious being's picture

No witnesses. No one saw what should have been an obvious streak in the sky.

Remember the Mystery Missle over Los Anglese??  Big streak in the sky.  Lots of phone calls.;_ylt=A0SO8xrkF9NTcFUAjxBXNyoA;...


Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:18 | 5004748 The Longest Call
The Longest Call's picture

WMDs again!  What do Saddam, Ghadaffi, and Putin all have in common... NO WMDs

Let me guess, Germany next...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:48 | 5004901 SteveNYC
SteveNYC's picture

Oh, I think Putin has plenty of WMDs. Real big, bad ones. Thus the reason he hasn't been invaded yet, as they would prove most difficult to "liberate"........

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:56 | 5005239 Not Too Important
Not Too Important's picture

His biggest WMD's are intel finds. He knows who's commiting child sacrifices. Fuck the nukes, this'll change warfare for all time.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:57 | 5004943 JR
JR's picture

Washington’s Jewish-dominated warmongers are not dealing with some tinhorn here. They are dealing with a superpower. And they are in the superpower’s zone of influence. And they are lying consistently, making accusation without fact.  If anybody is threatening, it’s NATO. Look up “threat” in the dictionary and it says it’s NATO.

Russia has never threatened except to say, You build up, then we build up.

All through the CIA/NATO-created revolution that toppled an elected government in Ukraine, the US has consistently tried to portray Putin and Russia as a dangerous aggressor. If the Jewish warmongers and their sycophant Congressional puppets and White House Fool succeed in awakening this bear, they may face an enemy far more dangerous than they ever imagined.

Putin has tried in vain to protect the material and spiritual progress he has made for his people since their escape from the  terrors of Bolshevism and its Iron Curtain over Russia. And because he would refuse to succumb to the debt-slavery wave, pushed by America and the IMF, he and his people have been targeted by the Fed's economic hit men.

Maybe John McCain wants war and maybe he will get it. But it will come in Russia’s zone of influence and it will not be the kind of war the neocons are used to: Attacking defenseless nations.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 19:30 | 5005799 r0mulus
r0mulus's picture

I've heard that Russia has radars that can defeat stealth technology as well.

If so, and the US cannot control the skies, I don't see how they have one chance in hell of holding territory near the Russian border. There is just no way the logistics can be accomplished in terms of putting that much metal on the ground, without putting the country on a strictly rationed war economy. Think Russia would allow even then, an amphibious operation to get close to it's shores, or to allow railroads leading up to it's borders to remain standing? Not a chance in hell.

In such a scenario, it's likely that china would cut us off from our "industrial base" and heap massive amounts of grief upon us.

Beyond simply being a matter of "weak will", this war is logistically impossible to win. It beggars to belief that such a confrontational strategy was even deemed useful. I mean, honestly, WTF?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:02 | 5006300 conscious being
conscious being's picture

Look back at what happenend to the first USN boat they sent into the Black Sea as Ukraine hotted up.

Got their Ageis electronics fried.  Did it happen?  The ship did get buzzed.  The ship did make for port immeadiately after and a replacement was sent in.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:51 | 5004918 Eirik Magnus Larssen
Eirik Magnus Larssen's picture

Given Putin's track record of nationalism, homophobia and monopolizing of Russian media, I certainly wouldn't put supporting drunken warmongers passed him.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:10 | 5005015 Johnny Moscow
Johnny Moscow's picture

Gimme a break. 

"homophobia" is a laugh. The gay lobby in the EU and US is very good at putting concepts like "homophobia" out there to help spread their agenda and stunt debate.  Putin didn't even enact the law the Duma did - they see the crap that goes on in the US and EU socially and want no part of the destruction of the family unit, let alone the massive attack in the West on masculinity and heterosexuality (hint: it's nature, not a societal construct).

Anyway, there is a real threat to Russians in Ukraine if the Ukrainization goes to the end game Poroshenko and the Ukraininan Nationalists want. It's no laughing matter - ethnic Russians could very well become second citizens.

Come to Ukraine and I'll show you (and see the Maiden bums and thugs for yourself) - they are here every day still 24-7).

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 17:11 | 5005314 where_is the_nuke
where_is the_nuke's picture

Like antisemitism?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 21:06 | 5006074 7.62x54r
7.62x54r's picture

The Duma's "homophobia" consists of banning western-authored pro-homosexuality texts from grade schools.

Big fucking deal.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:15 | 5005040 Latina Lover
Latina Lover's picture

You are kidding, right?  Homophobia equals supporting drunken warmongers? Guess you never been to a drunken Iraqi soldiers party, or don't care to remember what happened to your asshole?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:36 | 5005131 JR
JR's picture

For those who say, like you Eirik, that there is a media monopolization in Russia, the following may help with their research.

Vladimir Gusinsky

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vladimir Aleksandrovich Gusinsky (Russian: ????????? ?????????????? ?????????? [vl??d?im??r ?l???ksandr?v??t?? ???s?insk??]; born 6 October 1952) is a Russian media tycoon. He is known as the founder of the Media-Most holding company that included Most Bank, the NTV[1] channel, the newspaper Segodnya and magazines.

Life and career

Gusinsky was born in Moscow.

Alexander Korzhakov, former Chief of the Russian President's security service, told journalists that Boris Berezovsky had tried to talk him into assassinating Vladimir Gusinsky, the long-time Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov, singer and Duma deputy Joseph Kobzon, and others (Novy Vzglyad newspaper, 19 October 1996).[2][3]

On 13 June 2000, Gusinsky was arrested on charges of stealing property worth more than $10 million from the state-owned "Russian Video" company, but three days later was released on bail. The case was halted and Gusinsky flew to Spain. On 17 September 2000, the Prosecutor General's Office filed another case alleging the embezzlement of $300 million from OAO Gazprom. On 17 November 2000 prosecutors reopened the first criminal case against Gusinsky. An international arrest warrant was issued through Interpol, and on 12 December 2000 Gusinsky was arrested in Spain.

According to the Spanish daily El País, Gusinsky told the four Spanish policemen who came to arrest him at his home in the luxury Atlantic resort of Sotogrande: "You are making a big mistake. You don't know who I am, I'm a friend of Bill Clinton's."[4] On 22 December Gusinsky was again released, after bail of 1 billion pesetas ($5.5 million) was lodged.

His defence team including lawyer Pavel Astakhov claimed that the charges were politically motivated, and on 24 April 2001 the Spanish judge Baltasar Garzon declined to extradite Gusinsky to Russia. Later, Gusinsky was stripped of his Russian citizenship.

After moving abroad in 2001 Gusinsky created the satellite TV broadcasting company RTVi, which portrays events in Russia as presented by the TV network Echo's journalists. The related web site carries textual, photographic, and video news from Russia.

On 23 August 2003, Gusinsky travelled from Israel to Athens, where he was arrested under a Greek-Russian treaty for fraud amounting to millions in damages.[5] Intense pressure from American leaders (mainly from US ambassador in Athens Tomas Miller), Israeli officials and the European Jewish Congress on the Greek government led to Gusinsky's release within five days.[6]

In May 2004 the European Court of Human Rights has ruled that the actions taken against Gusinski by the Russian government were in breach of Sections 5 and 18 of the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms.[7]

According to the Union of Councils for Soviet Jews,[8] Gusinsky was a very close friend of US Congressman Tom Lantos.

He holds dual Israeli and Spanish citizenship and often resides in Spain.

Gusinsky had a shareholding in Hapoel Tel Aviv basketball team for a period of three and a half years, acquiring 60% of the team in November 2000.

Gusinsky created NTV, the first independent TV channel in Russia. The emergence of 'NTV+', an offshoot from NTV channel, was a groundbreaking event for Russian media. NTV+ was the first satellite channel ever to broadcast in the former USSR. Gusinsky now owns the RTVi television channel and significant amount of other media assets in United States and Russia, including movie production companies, Internet portal com, radio and television stations.

Until November 2008, Gusinsky held 27% of the shares in the prominent Israeli newspaper Maariv, which he exchanged with Bank Hapolaim to settle a $28 million debt to the bank.[9]

Gusinsky and fellow Russian businessmen Konstantin Kagalovsky[10] launched on 17 March 2008 a Ukrainian TV station TVi.[11] They split due to a business dispute and Kagalovsky controls and continues to fund TVi on his own.[10]

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 19:29 | 5005793 Circle of DNA
Circle of DNA's picture

To even suggest that Putin controls Russian media is both, ignorant and treacherous. Moscow along publishes more newspapers then any European country and 99% of it is anti-Putin.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 20:01 | 5005806 Aussie V
Aussie V's picture

Hey Larssen

Please keep your posts coming man as you are so funny you make my day!

This latest post caused my cartoonish mind to dream up an image of how your ancestors always found themselves at the very back of their "Longships" so, by the time they arose from their seats they could 'follow' all those ahead of them because the decision of where to go and what to do was already made for them.

Does the 'Berserk' blood still overtake your emotions when you're fighting other boys off?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 17:56 | 5005487 gcjohns1971
gcjohns1971's picture

That is plausible.

However, it is also plausible that east Ukrainians did it, as they CLAIMED to have a BUK days before the shooting.

At this point anything anyone says in the Ukraine is a contrarian indicator.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 18:18 | 5005552 Taint Boil
Taint Boil's picture



Soooo . they know this but they can’t tell you where the missile came from … OMG seriously.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:20 | 5005053 pazmaker
pazmaker's picture



....says the Russsian news agency run by the Ministry of Communications and Mass Media..


Are people really so naive and gullible on ZH now...  


These are propaganda wars by both sides.  It appears most folks on here think that if one side is lying then the other side must be telling the truth.  It is not so simple, did it ever occur to you that both sides have their agenda and own spin on how this occured?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:57 | 5005247 JR
JR's picture

Please, try your best to separate the lies for the truth; use your eyes to see and read this Letter to the Editor in today’s San Francisco Chronicle.

Letter to the Editor

The state of Israel has accomplished what no Roman Empire, no Nazi persecution, no bigot has ever been able to do. It has made me ashamed to be a Jew. We are witnessing another massacre of the innocents. Anybody who cannot respond to the disproportionate response, to the suffering of the Palestinian people, to the targeting of schools, water plants, mosques and hospitals is truly a lost soul. And it grieves me beyond measure that my government is Israel’s enabler.

As another Jew, killed by our mentor the Roman Empire, once asked: “Having eyes, do you not see?”

– Michael Beer, Richmond

NOTE: Jesus was crucified by Roman soldiers in obeisance to a decision by the chief priests and the entire Sanhedrin; "the Romans had taken away the Jews' right to inflict capital punishment, so in order for Jesus to be condemned to death He had to be sentenced by a Roman leader. The Jewish leaders wanted Jesus crucified on a cross, a method the Jews believed brought a curse from God. They hoped to persuade the people that Jesus was cursed, not blessed, by God." (Lfe Application Bible)

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:11 | 5004365 El Vaquero
El Vaquero's picture

"The war will heat up, but can the US supply enough Nat Gas to Europe for the winter months?"


We had to import gas last year.  We also exported some, but in the end, we're just producing enough to meet domestic needs.  To supply Europe, that would require rationing, and going back to coal power plants over the natgas ones that we've been putting in.  We'd have some very unhappy campers here.  

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:16 | 5004398 Hippocratic Oaf
Hippocratic Oaf's picture


It's not the facts, we just don't like you.

At best you're an asshole.

Lets all watch ofuckit draw another line and drum up more sanctions.

Gonna be a long 2.5 years

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:44 | 5004554 El Vaquero
El Vaquero's picture

You think we can both stay afloat and out of WWIII for 2.5 years?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:56 | 5004620 90's Child
90&#039;s Child's picture

My prep plan is the end of 2015. Then SHTF, and maybe after TEOTWAWKI.

I don't believe we will ever be back running things the way they are now.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:26 | 5004782 El Vaquero
El Vaquero's picture

I hope things crash before the ICBMs and SLBMs have a chance to fly.  

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:33 | 5004807 90's Child
90&#039;s Child's picture

Imagine the crash with EMP's. Even if you prepped for the crazy the emp would have a huge affect.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:52 | 5004926 Miles Ahead
Miles Ahead's picture

It's not the facts, we just don't like you.

At best you're an asshole.

See?  Objectivity.  Gave that mother fucker the benefit of the doubt.   He's definitely an asshole making me have to constantly log on just to downarrow his ass.  I got shit to do, damn!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:04 | 5004992 90's Child
90&#039;s Child's picture

Lol +1

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:07 | 5004688 sushi
sushi's picture

The Nat Gas export thingie would work much better if the required infrastructure were already in place. Not to mention the required fleet of ships. A few long term contracts might help as well.

Maybe the Fed can just print NG and do an electronic transfer?



Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:58 | 5005257 Not Too Important
Not Too Important's picture

And all those freakishly huge LNG ships out in the sun, getting a sunburn . . .

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 17:36 | 5005407 Seek_Truth
Seek_Truth's picture

It's the infrastucture that's the issue, not the fleet:

All of those LNG tankers in the above link are ready and able.

It is US regulations and licensing that has slow rolled the port infrastructure:

Long term contracts will be easily obtained (with Asia) once the port infrastructure is built out.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 18:33 | 5005616 Idaho potato head
Idaho potato head's picture

And they'll pay with .......sacrificial children?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:35 | 5005104 RafterManFMJ
RafterManFMJ's picture

There's nothing .gov hates, hates more than a foreign government looking out for its own people.

The true government impoverishes it's people, imports millions of 'guest workers' both legal and illegal to take the jobs of natives, disarms them, taxes the productive, punishes the saver, erodes their rights, spies on them, confiscates their property without due process, kicks their doors in with a SWAT team for shits n giggles, fingers them when they attend a sporting event, taxes them globally and at death, and lingers like a poisonous malevolent cloud over their daily lives.

Arming people being butchered so they can defend themselves? Oh fuck no!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:14 | 5005033 Kirk2NCC1701
Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Tell the State Dept that Russia would be happy to arm both sides -- just like the American MIC likes to do.

In the meantime, tell them that Russia does not arm Freedom Fighters, as that seems to be America's specialty.  They should also ask how the US differentiates between a good or bad regime, if that regime will not allow for a people's self-determination.  Case in point:  Syria vs Ukraine.  Not to mention Serbia/Bosnia/Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya... where the US/NATO (North Atlantic Terror Org) get to bomb and terrorize at will (by fiat).


Fri, 07/25/2014 - 19:41 | 5005839 Aussie V
Aussie V's picture

Very good post and to me, scratches at the core of the "Moral Authority" the US assumes it has and, many of us know it lacks.

If ANYONE is really interested in an unbiased view of the state and history of Ukraine since 'time memorial' to the present you should spend 10 minutes reading this excellent unbiased view from Ex Czech President Vaclav Klaus.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:14 | 5004639 daemon
daemon's picture

" powerful weapon

they call it the Derivatives Anti-net-net Debt Manifestor "

There is also the latest model of custard pie thrower, to shoot all the  US gov./ Ukraine gov./ EU gov.   clowns of that giant circus.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:26 | 5004779 TeethVillage88s
TeethVillage88s's picture

If the US CIA used financial devices to cause USSR to Collapse along with bribes to high level officials,

If the US Wall Street Sold Toxic Derivatives across Europe,

If the smartest guys in the Room ruined the US Financial Reputation & Wall Streets Reputation,

What is to say some cartel didn't plan to take out our Pension Plans, 401K Accounts, then strengthen their banking monopoly over small banks who have been disappearing since at least the 1980s, and continue to destroy jobs and other public corporations.

Not sure what follows logically. Allan Dulles, his brother and sister were involved in Finance before there ever was a CIA. CIA is a Covert Financial, Intelligence, and Military Organization that uses Proxies to skirt US Laws and accomplish Unknown Objectives (secret).

The same is True for European & US Banks. You can't separate Banking from any characteristics of a Military Republic. Such as Israel, USA, UK, Germany, Switzerland. Hm...and you can't separate Fascism from Banking.


Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:39 | 5005023 daemon
daemon's picture

" You can't separate Banking from any characteristics of a Military Republic. .... Hm...and you can't separate Fascism from Banking. "

And after stating this, can you imagine what it takes to make a superpower ?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:42 | 5005184 TeethVillage88s
TeethVillage88s's picture

Not really. But there is a novel that sort of followed Allen Dulles as an American Spy in Switzerland that also introduces you to Banking, BIS, Bank Spying, and how Swiss bankers were part of the Military & Intelligence Complex.

Swiss Account by Paul Erdman who was also an American and who Started a Swiss Bank.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:36 | 5005165 TeethVillage88s
TeethVillage88s's picture

Jewish Head of Stazi East German Police Trained Putin?

Many intelligence experts[weasel words] regard him as one of the greatest spymasters of all time.

His father was a member of the Communist Party of Germany, and after Adolf Hitler gained power, Wolf emigrated to Moscow with his father, via Switzerland and France, because of their Communist convictions and because Wolf's father was Jewish.[1][2][3]

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 17:13 | 5005321 Stoploss
Stoploss's picture

So, he's bringing in Blythe Masters????


NOW they got a problem..

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:42 | 5004228 WayBehind
WayBehind's picture

About time to supply some real toys as they Russian fighters were outgunned by the Ukrainian army and that's a real shame. Its like Mexico outgunning the US army.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:50 | 5004270 toady
toady's picture

Bozo should just let Putin's MIC have this one and concentrate on Gaza.

If they sell Hamas a bunch of real SAMs & some anti-tank stuff, then the Yids would want stuff to counter, then Hamas, then...

Dolla dolla bill yo!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:59 | 5004305 Dollar Akbar
Dollar Akbar's picture

So what he poisoned some enemies?

US kills hundreds of thousands of people in Irak and call that "Operation Iraqi freedom"... 

Nobody is an angel here, but coming with this scrap to discredit Putin is an act of high trollism.


Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:03 | 5004321 Bankster Kibble
Bankster Kibble's picture

Nah, Litvinenko was poisoned by mistake.  He was handling the stuff and got careless.  But it was a nice conspiracy for the London anti-Putin crowd.    :)

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 21:25 | 5004712 Anusocracy
Anusocracy's picture

The deed was probably done by Saudi Qatarael.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:31 | 5004802 Volkodav
Volkodav's picture


Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:29 | 5004789 Volkodav
Volkodav's picture

"The Phoney Litvinenko Murder"  William Dunkerley


Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:11 | 5005022 IronForge
IronForge's picture

Well, Uncle Sam has a bad habit of Poisoning People.

We started with Agent Orange (Poisoning the Locals AND our Vets);
and moved to Depleted Uranium (Poisioning the Locals AND our Vets).

Both were deliberate. What's worse, they both invovled the Public Trust.

@reverex:  If you can provide solid evidence that Mr. Putin or anyone else in the Russian Govt had direct input as to the Polonium
Poisioning Incidents, please let us know.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 17:02 | 5005279 Not Too Important
Not Too Important's picture

And no one anywhere has done anything about Fukushima.

Thousands of tons of Enriched Uranium and Plutonium aerosolized and blown worldwide, and what's not going up in the air is being washed out to sea, poisoning the oceans for billions of years.

Nuking Europe wouldn't do as much damage as Fukushima is doing.

WMDs, my ass.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:10 | 5004361 Ignatius
Ignatius's picture

RevRex seems inappropriate as your avatar based on your comments.

A more honest name might be "NeoConZioCunt".

I'm not going to copyright this so that you may use it to reinvent yourself in a more honest way.

Just trying to help.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:23 | 5004434 Jack Burton
Jack Burton's picture

Ha! Beautiful name! Just the thing for the troll master and state department taxpayer funded troll.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:28 | 5004458 MsCreant
MsCreant's picture

Master is too much flattery. It isn't even good and it never comes back to respond to anyone.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 18:57 | 5005683 Tall Tom
Tall Tom's picture


You would be better off writing to a wall.


At least you have a priori knowledge that a wall will not is delusional and suffers from schizophrenia...


RevRex is here to push an agenda. He is not here to expand his knowledge as he thinks that he knows everything.



Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:34 | 5004495 toady
toady's picture

"..state department taxpayer funded troll."

I've seen this or similar a lot lately, almost always with a negative connotation.

Why's it a bad thing to get paid for trolling? Everyone "trolls" when they express viewpoints others may not agree with. Why not get paid?

I don't know... it's just something i'm trying to figure out.

If anyone wants to pay me to troll, let me know!

Dolla dolla bill yo.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:46 | 5004570 InTheLandOfTheBlind
InTheLandOfTheBlind's picture

everyone does troll... it is the inconsiderate form of human life that seem to not understand that they are exactly what they are accussing their opposition of being... it is no wonder when dialogue like this becomes common places that the world devolves into the violence and blood shed we now see.... these people claim to speak for peace, but their words and manners show their true nature

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 19:26 | 5005783 Tall Tom
Tall Tom's picture is no wonder when dialogue like this...


No. That is where you are mistaken. I am in disagreement but I am not trolling. I am debating at this point. The key word which you used is "DIALOUGE".


When we have a TRUTHFUL and HONEST EXCHANGE OF IDEAS then that is a DIALOUGE. I may end up in disagreement with your position but we have had a dialouge. (Man I hope that I am in disagreement sometimes as it hones my debating skills as well as gets rid of my faulty understanding...)


Trolls, on the other hand, do their best to sidetrack, disrupt, or push an agenda. They have no interest whatsoever in dialouge.


They will use outrageous misinformation in order that you will waste your time getting the sources to reinforce your points. They use dishonest tactics and are liberal in the use of the Logical Fallacies..(.eg...Red Herrings, Bait and Switch, Ad Hominem, etc.) in order to upset the flow of dialouge.


They are more interested in a MONOLOUGE.


And when they are PAID to do that disruption then it is irritating at the very best.


Is that a valid clarification between disagreement and trolling?


I give trolls absolutely no respect. I am downright cold and mean when it comes to those whom I believe to be trolling.


Case in point...FlakFRAU. I will not tolerate her intellectual dishonesty.  When I read her continual misinformation, her intellectual dishonesty, and her arrogance of believing that she is somehow brighter than anyone else...or everyone else...then I am merciless in my attacks as I turn them personal.


I give those whom troll the very same treatment that they are giving the crowd as I am equipped to do it.


If the member is honestly seeking dialouge then I will sometimes spend hours to formulate an intelligent response.


I am not paid to do that.


Just for your information it took me about 15 minutes to formulate this response. I believe you to be worthy of respect.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:21 | 5006342 conscious being
conscious being's picture

Lie for money ... consequences be dammed. Boasting about it.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:29 | 5005130 Seer
Seer's picture

I'd suggest that "trolling" is more about NOT looking to engage in discussions.  It's the intent of forums such as this to facilitate discussions/debate.  Rev, and others like him, really don't converse, they just spew (usually highly inflammatory stuff [one could think that they're paid to get us to disclose ourselves or something]).

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:44 | 5004553 InTheLandOfTheBlind
InTheLandOfTheBlind's picture

i find those that want to label others to their own understanding of honesty to be just as much trolls as those they don't want to listen to, therefore they negate any need to listen by shooting the messenger even when the message is stupid.... and because reading comprehension is quite low these day, rexrev's comment on the uranium incident is quite missplaced and ill-informed, but so is your reaction.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 19:52 | 5005876 Tall Tom
Tall Tom's picture

...they don't want to listen to, therefore they negate any need to listen by shooting the messenger even when the message is stupid.... and because reading comprehension is quite low these day...


Whose Reading Comprehension is low? You are on a Comment Board that is loaded with professionals in every walk of life. We have Physicists, Doctors, Engineers, High Level Bankers, Traders, Financial Analysts, Microbiologits, and a whole plethora of the elite intelligensia that frequent this Comment Board.


We also have people who are not as well educated, not as advantaged, and many kids living in their Parents' Basement. (Actually there was an article on ZH about that...).


If they are not as well educated then perhaps before they shoot their mouth off it may behoove them to read and learn. Reading Comprehension is an ACQUIRED SKILL. If they lack it then perhaps they need to learn to read before they write.


I have seen great patience with the Foreigner who speaks and writes English as a Second Language. I have seen professionals take their time, and take great pains, to educate the slower, or, younger members.


But when one is given a message THIS IS NOT A GOP BLOG...and they continue to claim that it is when it is apparent that it is an Anarchocapitalist/Libertarian blog, then they are here to push a GOP agenda.


(Not that I mind that too much as I am also against the DNC) But it gets I am also equally against the GOP as both the GOP and DNC support Big Government.


It is the False Paradigm of the Red Team/Blue Team. It is the application of the Hegelian Dialectic. Now these terms can be researched on the Web if they are interested. But they are not. I have dropped that terminology so many times. It is a simple copy, ctrl-c, and paste ctrl-v into a Search Engine and they can READ ABOUT IT.


Yet they refuse to READ.


If they are not willing to engage in dialouge then they are unwilling to learn and are interested in pushing an agenda.


How much time do you have to donate to educate?


Now this response took about twenty minute to compose. I have spent 35 Minutes on you.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 20:09 | 5005919 Aussie V
Aussie V's picture

Hey mate good post but for some reason why do you and the previous poster spell dialogue like this 'dialouge?'

If you want to give lessons on reading and intelligence at least spell right and get your grammar good! /sarc

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 20:42 | 5006030 Tall Tom
Tall Tom's picture

So I slaughtered the King's English. What is new?


LOL. Thanks for the compliment.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:52 | 5004923 Eirik Magnus Larssen
Eirik Magnus Larssen's picture

Not very subtle, but it gets the point across.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:27 | 5006353 conscious being
conscious being's picture

WSW reports swedish fascists / mercinaries are kettled in E. Uk.  Just FYI.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:35 | 5004503 Toolshed
Toolshed's picture

"Cue the cowardly down arrowers who can't refute facts!"

Hey pot, maybe you should stop insulting the kettle and produce a few facts to substantiate your baseless accusations. C'mon coward, you could at least make a few usual.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:38 | 5004839 pot_and_kettle
pot_and_kettle's picture

re:  " Hey pot, maybe you should stop insulting the kettle ... "


Don't make me come over there...



Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:25 | 5005099 Seer
Seer's picture

Now, kids, behave!


Ma & Pa Kettle

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:42 | 5004722 Urban Redneck
Urban Redneck's picture

Here's a fact you can't refute:

The use of indiscriminate rockets in populated areas violates international humanitarian law, or the laws of war, and may amount to war crimes.

(In case you can't figure that out, those would be the same "indiscriminate rockets" that the the "government" in Kiev has been using on population centers in the east of the country.)

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:26 | 5004774 Volkodav
Volkodav's picture

RevRex   oh?  what facts? 

you had lots of useless talkings while no proof of anything

get lost goat

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:28 | 5005116 Zerozen
Zerozen's picture

You're being downvoted because your facts aren't as factual as you think they are

Even the Brits dropped the whole Litvinenko-was-poisoned-by-Putin accusations. There were some holes in the theory.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:35 | 5005162 WTFUD
WTFUD's picture

Sexy Rexy full of SHIT.
One side is retreating/ defending whilst the other forwards AGGRESSOR.
My thoughts are with the SET UPON cowering down wondering why their GOVERNMENT wants to kill their children and their parents and grandparents who fought with their lives in WW11 to defend their country and the WORLD from the FASCISTS.


Fri, 07/25/2014 - 17:47 | 5005459 11b40
11b40's picture

You keep asking for it, after day, same ,gov line from you, and you obviously pay no attention to the repeated reasons most here don't trust any leaders of major powers.  Not ours, and not theirs.  All lie and all kill without a second thought.  Refute those facts.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 18:30 | 5005598 Idaho potato head
Idaho potato head's picture

Oh my god, they're not going to transfer, gulp....truth?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 07:02 | 5006730 Gavrikon
Gavrikon's picture

Cue the NWO Neocom retards.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:40 | 5004216 Headbanger
Headbanger's picture

Da!..  Vintovka Mosina  bitchez..!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:46 | 5004250 the phantom
the phantom's picture

Polonium poisoning...what?  Non-sequitur much? Stay focused son... you're not worth the effort of a down arrow for that one.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:46 | 5004252 tarsubil
tarsubil's picture

How dare zerohedge disrupt Two Minutes Hate!? ARGH!? *spittle flying*

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:50 | 5004272 quintago
quintago's picture

It's not like we tried to start a war in Syria over a lie

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:29 | 5004787 tbd108
tbd108's picture

You forgot to mention WWI with the Lisutania (and via intimate connection, WWII), Spanish-American War (remember the Maine!), Vietnam (Gulf of Tonkin), Iraq (weapons of mass destruction) War of 1812 (US was supplying France big-time), the Cold War (remember poor Admiral Forrestal). Did I miss one?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:39 | 5004531 ilikepies
ilikepies's picture

So what does Satan's covk taste like???

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:20 | 5004754 Volkodav
Volkodav's picture

"The Phony Litvinenko Murder" William Dunkerley

media dumb you down much?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 17:59 | 5005496 williambanzai7
williambanzai7's picture

Swartz, Breitbart, Hastings

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:53 | 5007004 SoDamnMad
SoDamnMad's picture

wow The Russian troll army is now working at brigade level.  I wonder if these are the Russian version of

"I make 500 roubles an hour and only work 32 hours a week in order to drive my turbo-charged Lada and live in my

35 sq. mt. flat "

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:38 | 5004202 RockRiver
RockRiver's picture

Remind me......Why exactly are we trying to pick a fight with Russia?

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:39 | 5004207 Quus Ant
Quus Ant's picture


Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:26 | 5004444 Jack Burton
Jack Burton's picture

Indeed. $$ for the military industrial complex. Big profits, and steady jobs. Military gets to expand and more new toys. Lots of high paid jobs for generals and admirals. Look how many admirals and generals the USA won World Was Two with, and now see how many we have to run the corrupt trillions dollar orgy of theft called pentagon budget.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:46 | 5004568 El Vaquero
El Vaquero's picture

Don't forget that Russia has *our* oil underneath its soil.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:25 | 5004776 docmac324
docmac324's picture

Don't forget that Russia has *our* oil underneath its soil.

Yep, keep it simple, K.I.S.S.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 23:33 | 5006367 conscious being
conscious being's picture

Jack, you're a brilliant guy so let me just add - FINANCE needs the coming war.  It will be very difficult to cover up the scale of fraud otherwise.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:38 | 5004480 Chief Wonder Bread
Chief Wonder Bread's picture

Ultimately, Hyman Roth {Meyer Lansky} model of Empire

"We've always made money for our partners."

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 18:05 | 5005494 FreeSlave
FreeSlave's picture

Here is why: Kissinger's plan...  "Hopefully if all goes well, half the Middle East will be Israeli."

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:40 | 5004209 Publicus
Publicus's picture

To start World War 3.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:53 | 5004608 Juno Rock
Juno Rock's picture

News Flash: 

World War III started with the formation of the modern state of Israel, the action moved from there to Korea, then on to Vietnam, throw in a few South American revolutions, some African rebels slaughtering whites, and for a kicker, how about some various insurections on Island nations in East Asia. From there things just got slowly worse! This war has no "front lines" the so-called front lines are right outside your door on the street. Its only going to get hotter. 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:40 | 5004218 Skateboarder
Skateboarder's picture

Cuz our GRC clownbux are approaching void-dom.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:41 | 5004219 V in PA
V in PA's picture

All part of Hillary's reset to get us back to cold war status. Things were so much better when we had a Country for an enemy instead of those damn terrorists.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:52 | 5004600 NotApplicable
NotApplicable's picture

Not much of a role the UN can play in the "invisible terrrerrest" meme. But nation-states? Now you're talking!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:43 | 5004237 Mr Pink
Mr Pink's picture

and then..snif snif , Putin pulled the babies out of the incubators...snif snif....and threw them on the cold floor....sob sob...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:05 | 5004317 Dr. Richard Head
Dr. Richard Head's picture

Don't forget that Putin has mobile death baby incubators....and he is buying aluminium rods from Africa....and then you saw that vial containing something that presented to the UN council.....and HOLY SHIT FOR CHRIST'S SAKE GO SHOPPING SO THE TERRORISTS...SORRY RUSSIANS DON'T WIN....the Russians hate us for our freedom and way of life....did you see those chemical labs?.....look over here!!!!

For clarification...I don't side with the US Government of the Russian government in any of this horse shit. 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:41 | 5004536 Seer
Seer's picture


(and for sure, we'll find fully-intact Russian passports littering the trail)

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:07 | 5004347 Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill's picture

Don't forget raping the nuns , and then boiling their bodies into

handsoap, and using their skin for lightshades.

I saw it on YouTube, so it must be true.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:23 | 5004435 Ignatius
Ignatius's picture

Don't forget the infamous "Nazi Gas Vans":

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:49 | 5004257 boattrash
boattrash's picture

RockRiver. The death quivers of World Reserve Currency/Petro Dollar, and good distraction for the economic crash. (IMHO)

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:49 | 5004263 ednraleigh
ednraleigh's picture

They have Snowden and that just sticks in the US governments craw to no end!!!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 13:51 | 5004273 casey13
casey13's picture

BRICS bank

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:08 | 5004346 NOTaREALmerican
NOTaREALmerican's picture

The US dumbasses are getting tired of the trrrrsss "threat".   Need a new-n-better one.   Gotta have perpetual war.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:22 | 5004430 Joe Tierney
Joe Tierney's picture

"Remind me......Why exactly are we trying to pick a fight with Russia?"


Because the West is TERRIFIED of a strong, independent, anti-Western Russia that refuses to be their energy burro any longer, that's why!


And because such a power can marshal other powers in line behind it as the one 'crossing the Rubicon' with regards to trashing the petrodollar.


And because Putin and Russia have the distinct ability and the BALLS to expose just how hollowed-out Western financial, economic, geopolitical and military power has really become by now.


And because Western leaders know that Putin knows just how pathetic and incompetent and dishonest they really are as they attempt to keep their banana republics afloat and the Western-dominated global order afloat along with it.


And because they haff to take a play from Hitler's playbook on creating an evil foe to distract attention from their own gross incompetance.


And finally - because these S.F.B.'s have nothing whatever better to do with their time, energy and money.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:41 | 5004538 CrashisOptimistic
CrashisOptimistic's picture

"Remind me......Why exactly are we trying to pick a fight with Russia?"


Because they have excess oil and gas and are parlaying it into victory.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:56 | 5004618 NotApplicable
NotApplicable's picture

It's the difference between the N(Western)WO and the N(Eastern)WO.

Not that it will make a bit of difference to the (un)lucky proles who survive the chaos leading up to it.

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 16:41 | 5005181 Seer
Seer's picture

Problem is that that "excess" won't stay that way forever.

If you were to triple-agent this it might all come down to a strategy to get Russia to exhaust its resources as rapidly as possible by egging it on to sell to China, with China being hell-bent on growth it's a perfect setup*.  Yes, the US doesn't want to see their old friends in Europe freeze to death, but what can one do when one is broke?  The US still have energy reserves (and then there's always Canada and Mexico!), in which case this is a LONG game and calling "winners" might be a bit premature... (though, none of this is meant to oppose your good sense of understanding of the Big Picture).

* Of course, as a triple-agent you cannot broadcast this as such; you are NOT going to make it appear as such to your "friends" (Europe), you have to look like you're putting up a fight for them!

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 14:48 | 5004582 InTheLandOfTheBlind
InTheLandOfTheBlind's picture

trying to feebly maintain the dollar reserve currency status... this is more than just money and profits for the MIC... 

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 15:17 | 5004744 Volkodav
Volkodav's picture

"You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians.

They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered

millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse...."   Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

search and study the rest of this warning by Solzhenitsyn...

economics are only part of it..

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 20:19 | 5005961 Ocean22
Ocean22's picture

Yes, they were Jews ...

Fri, 07/25/2014 - 18:07 | 5005515 FreeSlave
FreeSlave's picture


Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!