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If Americans Knew What Was Happening In Israel …

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If my fellow Americans understood the history of Israel and Palestine, their views would change overnight … and they would demand that Israel no longer be given unconditional support and blank checks to do whatever they want:

Postscript: Former Israeli Minister: Calling people who criticize Israeli policy “anti-semitic. It’s a trick … we always use it”.

 

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Sat, 07/26/2014 - 16:01 | 5007801 bluskyes
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Canada is a country, CANADA is a corporation listed by the US Securities and Exchange Commission.

edit... See https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=CANADA&owner=exclude&ac...

...end of edit

I was born in Canada, and live on a small farm in the tobacco belt.

Canadian politicians are sycophantic sociopaths. Unless you own an oil company, or large cap mining concern, they don't give a shit about me, you or anyone else.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 17:43 | 5008022 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Steven Lewis actually cares about us and I'll bet I could come up with a few more Canadian politicians if I had a few days to think about it. I agree that not very many actually give a rat's arse about any of us and that would include HarperCONs en masse. Jack Layton liked us and so did Tommy Douglas. Broadbent likes us and so does Paul Dewar. Paul Martin likes us enough to fight for our aboriginal First Nations. We have a few I'm sure. In point of fact, we do have politicians that actually care about us en masse. The SOBs are sycophants and sociopathic I agree wholeheartedly when it comes to a large percentage but not all of them.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 12:33 | 5013149 bluskyes
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All of our politicians love us so much, that they are willing to enslave our children with insurmountable debt in order to maintain an un-affordable lifestyle.

Tommy Douglas, and Jack Layton were both fools. The bigger, and more grandiose their schemes are - the bigger the path of destruction they leave in their wake.

That's why I vote libertarian, the only party that promises to get rid of the actual mechanisms of our enslavement - not just "find efficiencies" and "tweak the current system"

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 09:17 | 5009379 oudinot
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So you love all the Canadian 'lefties' but you love Baird  too.

You are a complete moron.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:30 | 5009741 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Politically, I used to be on the left. I'm now a Progressive Conservative

and Baird supports our base so I support Baird. I do not support Steven Harper or 98% of the other CONs. I like Joe Oliver as Finance

Minister and Baird is the hardest working politician in Parliament IMHO.

I am not fixated on the left/right as you are. Moreover, I am much older than you are and I have been around the block enough times to know that the 'lefties' spend too much fucking money because they don't have to earn it. Fuck the left and fuck the right.

OCCUPY THE LEFT & RIGHT - OCCUPY FUCK THE LEFT & RIGHT

OCCUPY FUCK EVERYTHING

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:49 | 5007165 Ocean22
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Nope. Bottom line is votes. The "Jews", ( there are not real Jews but converts from eastern Russia. {Ashkenazi} They have fooled the evangelical Christians with the scofeild bible and have taken over the USG. They are NOT the chosen people any longer. Only believers are...both Jew and gentile. They were judged and destroyed by God in 70 AD by Rome for rejecting and killing the messiah. Their claim to Palestine is FALSE biblically, morally and logically. They will not prevail. They are trying to take over the world and will do to us all what they are doing to gaza. Wake up! Did you ever ask your self of all the peoples of the world why have the Jews been hated so much. ? List of countries they have been kicked out of.

Africa (1147, 1790)
Arabia (624)
Austria (1298)
Babylon (586BC)
Bavaria (1551)
Belgium (1370)
Czechoslovokia (1745)
Denmark (not allowed in until the 17th century)
Egypt (1571BC, 38BC, 3BC, 66)
England (not allowed in until the 12th century, expelled in 1290)
France (561, 1182, 1242, 1306,1394,1540, 1682)
Germany (1012, 1096, 1146, 1298, 1510, 1614, 1935-revoked citizenship)
Hungary (1360, 1582, 1717)
Italy (1492, 1540, 1550, 1846)
Iraq (not allowed to emigrate to until 2003)
Lebanon (Jews not allowed entrance)
Palestine (70, 324)
Lithuania (1495)
Netherlands (1444)
Norway (1814)
Poland (1453, 1772-Pale of Settlement)
Portugal (1498)
Prussia (1510)
Rome (315,379)
Russia (1772-Pale of Settlement, 1881)
Saxony (1349)
Slovakia (1380, 1744)
Spain (612, 694, 1391, 1492-1968, officially)
Sweden (until 1782)
Switzerland (1939)
Syria (Jews not allowed entrance)

Talmudic Jews, aka zionists, move into countries with the sole intention of imploding their economies. Their talmud overflows with laws that call for the destruction and exploitation of 'the goyim' aka non-Jews and non-zionist Jews. These cowards who hide behind the low level, Torah abiding Jews, have been defaming the majority of 'their people' on down through the centuries. It's not blind "antisemetism" that has led to the historical persecution of the Jews. It is the talmud and those who follow it.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 09:20 | 5009383 oudinot
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The Jews were not 'kicked out' of Babylon in 586 BC, they were allowed by Nebuchanezzar, the Assyrian ruler,  to return to Jerusalem.  It was called the 'Babylonian captivity' after they were taken from Jerusalem.

Most went back..

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:08 | 5007059 Monty Burns
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"the bottom line is the Oil and money"

I disagree. Ultimately it's the knowledge that being seen as an 'anti-Semite' means certain end of your career and/or business. The money is secondary and if it were about oil the West would be pro-Arab.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 13:23 | 5007383 PeakOil
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More about financial hegemony in my opinion. The Anglo/American/Old European money/Rothschild a.k.a. "ZioCon" crime syndicate. Maintenance of power at all costs.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 14:49 | 5007626 centerline
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Precisely.  Everything else is a just tool.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:05 | 5007198 optimator
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If you listen to talk radio you can see how they let anyone pro Israel go on and on, but any caller with the slightest anti Israeli sentiment gets quickly cut off.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:19 | 5007237 Canucklehead
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That is because everyone is tired of the muslim whining. No one wants muslims as neighbors. It is only going to get more pronounced as time goes on.

Look how support for Gaza has tanked since they started firing missiles at Israel.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 17:01 | 5007935 Frostfan1
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They used to be bigger with more whites than Muslims.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 15:58 | 5007803 Canucklehead
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Lets see if anything comes of this. I doubt it. What are your expectations?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:16 | 5007077 Skip
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"and if it were about oil the West would be pro-Arab."

And how much did the war on Iraq cost us?
And why did the US go into Iraq?
http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_oilwar.htm
http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_isrorgs.htm
http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/conc_toc.htm

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:24 | 5007104 Monty Burns
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My point was that American support for Israel has nothing to do with oil.  America has - for now - ensured its cheap(ish) oil supplies by way of militarily supporting compliant Arab kleptocracies (e.g. SA) and overthrowing those who look like straying from the reservation (Saddam, Ghaddafy).

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 14:17 | 5007557 centerline
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Dude - wake up.  It is all about oil/energy.  You know... magic stuff that keeps the world turning, the masses from revolting, and so on.

ME instability has been the ticket all along.  Israel is pivotal.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 14:33 | 5007589 Monty Burns
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ME instability would be easier to foment were Israel not there. Israel acts as a focus for Arab rage and dissatisfaction that would otherwise be internally focused.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 14:46 | 5007623 centerline
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Is not that simple.  You have to ask yourself whenever focused on one thing - if it is just misdirection.  This "focus" has been such ever since I was born.  The same story playing out over and over.  After awhile, you just have to admit it is all BS.  Just religious nuts being used to further a larger agenda that ultimately is about power.  In today's world, power = cheaper energy.  If you dont believe me, just imagine what happens if oil goes to $200 a barrel.  Or if Putin simply shuts the gas off to Europe this winter.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 19:52 | 5008316 Monty Burns
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Touche.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:14 | 5006915 mikemora
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Most moronic set of links ever presented on Zero Hedge.

Bless the sons and daughters of Israel.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 05:20 | 5009146 Duffy Duck
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Bless them?

As it is written, in your book, not mine - may they "reap what they sow."

Some of us still cling to the Auld Gods.

And they are very, very angry.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 15:54 | 5007794 DaveyJones
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at least debate with a straight face. Show us some facts. Like the political leaders, you only hurt innocent jews with mantras like this.   

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:11 | 5007069 Colonel Klink
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Need to change your username to Mikemenorah.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:54 | 5007005 BigJim
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Most moronic post ever presented on ZeroHedge.

Bless the sons and daughters of Palestine, who are facing the closest thing to Nazis on Earth today.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 16:43 | 5007885 Jumbotron
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No....the Palestinians faced the head Nazi himself......and embraced him.

http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/hitlers-mufti

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 18:46 | 5008154 BigJim
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Would that be Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem... who was appointed by Sir Herbert Samuel, the High Commissioner of the very empire that killed so many Palestinians resisting their rule?

Yeah, he's clearly representative of Palestinian thought. <= that's sarcasm, by the way; I know English isn't your first language, and what with the sound of Gaza being flattened - and your natural thrill at knowing so many Palestinians are being culled - you probably haven't been getting much sleep, poor fellow.

Weak, very weak, Hasbara. If you're trying to prove the Palestinians were somehow responsible for the Holocaust, and hence deserved to have their land handed over to the few remaining survivors of that atrocity (and millions of other Zionists who weren't) you're going to have to try a damn sight harder round here. This isn't the Tel Aviv Herald.

Incidentally, Ben Gurion - a hero of yours no doubt, along with terrorists like Menachim Begin and Rahm Emmanual's father - made it clear they intended to grab the Arabs' land by force of arms... in the mid '30s, years before the Holocaust. I guess they were just astoundingly prescient, huh? You Chosen People! Is there Nothing you cannot do?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:14 | 5006914 what's that smell
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the "World" is a fantasy inside the minds of homicidal monkeys.

if the fantasy is a nightmare, the "World" is a nightmare.

the homicidal monkeys will kill EVERYTHING until there is nothing left but....

homicidal monkeys killing homicidal monkeys.

zionists and cockroaches get underground now.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 07:27 | 5006745 Optimusprime
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Thanks for your courage in assembling these links, GW.  I wonder how long--if ever--we will wait for a real change in these attitudes in the US.  Another area of "American exceptionalism?

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 15:18 | 5010157 Tall Tom
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 I wonder how long--if ever--we will wait for a real change in these attitudes in the US. 

 

You can sit and wait for a change if you want. And you may be waiting for a very long time..

 

Conversely you can become active by personally confronting those whom you know, convincing them, through persuasion, that a change is necessary.

 

When you drop your cloak of anonymity, to your friends, you may very well be surprised that they may agree with you. You may very well be surprised that they have had the same thoughts and were too timid to voice them.

 

But then you may also find out that those whom you mistakenly thought to be your friends are not your friends but your frenimies.

 

But at least you will know the truth and the truth will set you free from bondage to your "frenemies".

 

There is always a risk. But your level of participation is up to you.

 

You can continue to walk around deluded and not know whom your real friends are. (Of course your true friends will be the ones whom morally support you.)

 

Or you can find out whom your real friends are by being real with your friends.

 

It may not be comfortable but when times become tougher, as they are definitely headed in that direction, it will be a great advantage to you for you to know whom your real friends are. In that way you do not get stabbed in the back...and I really mean that in the most graphic sense possible. There will be bloodshed in the upcoming upheaval.

 

Change your attitude first and think about this. I know that it is uncomfortable. But for your own sake you must.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 01:54 | 5006544 USisCorrupt
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This world is no longer worth saving.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 20:23 | 5008379 rubiconsolutions
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This is worth watching. It was an hour well spent - "Life In Occupied Palestine"

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 14:52 | 5007631 Jumbotron
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We know what's happening.  Israel is defending itself like a sovereign country should in the face of murderous Muzzies who surround them and want them dead every day.

Israel is letting the vermin know they cannot rain missiles down on their population and not pay a HEAVY price.

Hamas needs to be UTTERLY broken and the rest of the Muzzie world needs to understand they will never win.....no one is coming to their aid.....and they need to reform themselves and stop blaming the West and the Jews.

 

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 05:17 | 5009144 Duffy Duck
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What you need to understand is that eventually, Sunni and Shia will unite.

And that Israel started this murder campaign on a pretext - I'll assume, arguendo, you give a shit about the truth...


http://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/24/hiding-war-crimes-behind-a-question...

http://antiwar.com/blog/2014/02/06/the-truth-about-cease-fire-violations...

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/hamas-didnt-kidnap-the-isra...

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/07/08/who-started-the-cycle-of-v...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-mid...

 

Few, if any of us want the citizens of Israel to be removed, let alone killed.  But Likud and Shas and Jewish Fundamentalism are not things you should be lining up to defend, if you have an ounce of decency when in a reflective mood.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 07:57 | 5009257 BigJim
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He's had the truth shown to him multiple times. He's not interested in truth, he's a hit-and-run racial supremacist interested in propaganda.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 15:09 | 5007681 centerline
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First, let me say I am not religious.  Dont have a dog in this fight one way or another.

However, if there is one thing I do know... nothing is that simple or one sided.  And it almost always boils down to power/control at some higher level.

Therefore, posts like yours are in fact truly ignorant and inflammatory.  You should be ashamed (unless of course you are brainwashed by religion - or propogranda... no real difference really).

Remember... for those of you are in fact religious... God wants spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.

edit:  The problem here is that spiritual fruit won't so quickly kill his neighbor - therefore is not as useful.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:43 | 5006978 Freddie
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I hope support among Evangelicals keeps dropping.  The idiots over at Free Republic are Israel firsters.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 05:14 | 5009140 Duffy Duck
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it's a Jewish magazine - look at the names. look at the masthead. So much for 'diversity'.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 17:50 | 5008045 logicalman
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Evangelicals are incapable of thought.

That's WHY they are 'evangelicals'

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:11 | 5007056 Skip
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Back on the 35th anniversary of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty FR was having a pro-Israel rally, and the Jewish owner of FR, Jim Robinson, was in attendance waving an ISRAELI flag from his wheelchair. That is all you need to know about FR:
http://www.ussliberty.org/index2.html

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:54 | 5009650 gatorboat
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Nonsense. 

(a) you're not doing any fighting, just writing stupid articles, and (b) it's lunacy to fight with no hope of winning, only fanatics do that, not smart people.

Israelis are making the same mistake Americans are,  the good segments aren't reining in the bad segments. 

"Only thing needed for evil to thrive is good men doing nothing."   It applies in Israel like it does in America.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:29 | 5010010 Tall Tom
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(b) it's lunacy to fight with no hope of winning, only fanatics do that, not smart people.

 

Then you are already defeated.

 

Have you ever played Football?

 

The game is generally decided before the first play from scrimmage.

 

In College Football, a game which I used to love before it was corrupted by money, it is very easy to see.

 

Those kids, yes dumb College kids, are equally as strong and large. The GAME which they play is a mental game.

 

First you win their minds. After that you win their hearts. Following that those kids will do anything for you.

 

They need to be convinced that they are no better nor worse than anyone else, regardless of the School Name. You must convince them that the game is one of ATTITUDE. Then is takes DISCIPLINE. You convince them that the most DISCIPLINED team generally prevails. The ones that make the fewest mistakes emerges victorious.  The rest follows.

 

In Colleges across the country they teach the very same Math. They teach the very same Physics. It does not matter if that Math and Physics is instructed by professors at the Ivy Leauge Schools or whether it is instructed by professors over at Po' Dunk U.

 

Stanford University Calculus is no different than Arizona State University Calculus. It is just as demanding. The same rules apply.

 

It is pretty much the same with Football.

 

It is pretty much the same with anything in life.

 

Writing, persuasive writing, changes minds. That is the initial step in the fight. We need to capture their minds away from the indoctrination and Hypnotic trance of TeeVee.

 

It is worth it. It is the only chance we have got to restore Liberty.

 

You need to change your attitude as they are only as powerful as you allow them to be.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 04:16 | 5011796 gatorboat
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"It is worth it. It is the only chance we have got to restore Liberty."

"waking people up" is a foolish delusion when 99% don't want to wake up, and your chance to restore liberty ended at least 20 years ago.  Can't believe you still think it's possible.

America is beyond hope of saving.  It's obvious the government wants to turn American into a communist hellhole, and there's not enough of your type with guts to do anything about it.  Guns yes, guts no.

I'm smart enough to see that.  Many here apparently aren't.

 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:22 | 5007092 Tall Tom
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Please consider this:

 

That is one of the reasons that I do not hide under the cloak of anonymity on this website.

 

I want the NSA and the Government to know that I am a very real Human Being.

 

As your essay stated, and I quote,

 

Away from the keyboard, we are not very anonymous. So that is where the conformity dynamic — and the need for courageous dissent — is vital. It is doubly important that we apply the same hard-hitting truthtelling we do on the Internet in our face-to-face interactions; because it is there that dissent is urgently needed.

 

Well I am not anonymous here George Washington.

 

My name is

 

Thomas O'Brien

 

I live at 12223B Woodside Avenue, Lakeside, CA, USA.

 

I encourage everyone to drop their anonymity.

 

By God Almighty, if the NSA wants a fucking list, let's give them a list.

 

Demonstrate that you fear them not and they will cower under the cloak of their own anonymity. That is a prison of fear which they are so deserving to reap as they attempt to sow it.

 

Fuck the NSA.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 16:01 | 5007809 Canucklehead
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Do you live in that NAPA store?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 20:20 | 5008374 Tall Tom
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No. That is acroos the Street. I live in an apartment above the Pawn Shop.

 

Why not come out and go hunting with me?

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 08:41 | 5009325 Canucklehead
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Well, that's a bit of a drive. Thanks for the offer.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:03 | 5009942 Tall Tom
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I enjoy cross country trips. Where are you at?

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