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If Americans Knew What Was Happening In Israel …
If my fellow Americans understood the history of Israel and Palestine, their views would change overnight … and they would demand that Israel no longer be given unconditional support and blank checks to do whatever they want:
Postscript: Former Israeli Minister: Calling people who criticize Israeli policy “anti-semitic. It’s a trick … we always use it”.
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Plenty of Americans are aware of 9/11. Plenty of Americans are aware of the tyranny of the State. Plenty of Americans are aware of the propaganda factories.
The Elites would have you believe you are powerless and alone. That there is no place to hide or run. You are under control.
However, this is a patently foolish propaganda. Look around you, the country is inhabited by good people, living in places which the State is incapable of defending nor controlling. The cities are urban battlegrounds they desperately attempt to control, but consistently fail. The voting public continues to decline. With the fall in living stabdards, they leave themselves less and less reasons to be supported.
The People tire of war and taxes. They are fed up with the political abuse. We have only to withdraw our acceptance of law and order, turn back to liberty and refuse to participate and the whole edifice crumbles.
The State is desperate to invoke our prejudice and bias, to keep us divided, but in the end, we are used up. The effort is not worth the payoff. The State is broke and can no longer buy off our allegiance. They are failing and all we hav to do is stop supporting them.
There is NOTHING the State provides we cannot provide for ourselves or live without. The cost of liberty is a step in the dark which will lead to light.
hear hear Sean
massa...you done writ wit much eloquences
I am trying to reconcile this post with your other posts below. They don't seem to be wtitten by the same person.
sean, right you arre (sp) lol, (stabdards is a word?)..long night huh?
And now I can't correct it, but neither can you! (arre)
Focus ought to be on ending the IDF chickenshit fuckin' pussy asshole onslaught. But that means Hamas' - they aren't heroes, they're interested in keeping power, and before you junk me, I'm about as harsh a critic of Israel's government as still hasn't been banned here yet.
But what the fuck. Me, I look at dead kids, whatever kids, doesn't matter, kids, and soft spot, going soft, whatever the fuck, it makes me teary eyed, they should pay the price.
Were I a father of one of these dead kids, I'd be looking to execute the people still giving suicidal orders to launch pointless rockets. And I'd probably think, as the bullets came at me, I just got a few of Likud's sayanim.
Apart from launching at civilians, which is a war crime, Hamas is not acting like a resistance movement, they are acting like agents of Israel providing excuse and cover for the destruction of any semblance of a normal life for the indigenous people of Israel, bottled up in their cage, a population Bibi et al. feel almost confident enough to slaughter in their entirety.
Yeah, most of the blame is on Israel, and the idea they are "defending" themselves is laughable to anyone with brains and honesty enough to assess the matter. But Hamas gives the cover and excuse for the murder Israel wants to commit in their decades-long program of ethnic cleansing.
Fuck Hamas, and all those who would justify the murder of little kids with political and ideological platitudes.
Dead bodies of Palestinian women and children are the most effective weapons Hamas possess. Their missiles are so useless, I doubt they could use that to defend their chicken coops. The laughable but sometimes deadly homemade rockets are just tools to instigate the Jews to provide the Hamas with the weapons they really want, dead Palestinian women and children.
War is ugly. The days of grown men standing in columns shooting each other in open field are long gone. Anyway, as far as I'm concern, it's really none of our business.
If it's really "none of our business" then perhaps we should stop arming and financing and protecting the occupying force.
Yep.
I never got that logic. Could you explain it for me?
My question was dirrected to Noname
Zionism is not Judaism
http://www.truetorahjews.org
What a classic deception. Zionism runs in a long line from Levites to Pharisees and Sanhedrin to Talmudists to Zionists. The leadership of the Judahites are zionists. Jews listen and obey their leaders and as the Talmud teaches, you can lie, cheat and steal from the gentiles and Yahweh approves! Sweet deal!
When jews turn on the zionists, I will listen to this crapola.
Torah, huh, say, doesn't that include Deuteronomy?
Ever read it? Or Joshua or Leviticus?
What kind of religion, or group psychology, when taken as "god"'s word, can arise from that kind of hyperethnocentrism, xenophobia, myth, and hate?
And that's why as a Christian I try to ignore much of the Old Testament.
Fun thing is, the Quran states "Leave Israel to the Jews".
Nobody abides by their religion. Not even hamas.
Hell Israeli is doing our dirty work get rid of these piss ant Hamas, Arabs someone needs to put a end to all the Hamas killing which has spread like a virus thru out the whole world. Also the above article is garbage killing is killing no matter what is being said by different groups and I will stand with the killing the jews are doing over the killing the Hamas sneaks around the world to do.
There is a LOT of killing going on here in my neck of woods, but Hamas, no.
I would like you to explain the "around the world" part, if possible.
Muslims killing people around the world.
True or false?
Your answer will exhibit your integrity.
Sure they are. So is the US and every other dickhead. Whats your point?
So VWAndy is calling muslims murderous dickheads, but is opposed to Israel dealing with a group of these dickheads?
No Im saying its a land grab.
Glad there is at least someone who sees the obvious.
Really? Is that all you have?
You're clearly not honest enough (maybe intelligence is the issue) to recognize that muslims are at the root of every site of global conflict in this world.
Take them out of the global equation, and where do we have armed conflict?
Ukraine? Debatable.
Where else?
"muslims are at the root of every site of global conflict in this world."
yes, how dare those bastards defend their oil, their identity, and their homelands
Frankly, given the last 150 years of energy based geopolitical history, any intelligent person would have predicted that the focus of violent uprising would indeed be in the middle east
dehumanizing a group so you can push your imperial agenda is the oldest and most transparent trick in the book
read (and learn) your history
Jeezus, you're an idiot.
Well there is the war on some drugs. Then we have the police state crap. And the oil wars. All of these wars are wrong too. So what makes this one my problem? My focus is on bigger things then this land grab.
Conflicts muslims are behind, currently in progress :
Sudan
Western Sahara
Mali
Central African Republic
Somalia
Kenia
Taiwan
Phillippines
India/Pakistan
India/Punjab
Iraq (including the massacres)
Iran
Pakistan (religious massacres/"civil war")
Bangladesh (religion massacres/"civil war")
Afghanistan
China/Xinjan
China/General southeast conflict
Indonesia/Bali (religious massacres/"civil war")
Indonesia/Papua New Guinea
Malaysia (religious massacres/"civil war")
Czech republic/Russia
Russia/Southern Russia (e.g. google Beslan)
Israel/Lebanon
Israel/West Bank
Israel/Gaza
Israel/Jordan
Israel/Egypt
Zanzibar
And let's go back in time, shall we :
India
China
Eastern European empire (massacred to the last man in most locations)
Spain
France
Yugoslavia
Austria
Hungary
Romania
Greece
Georgia
Armenia
Syria
Persian empire
Berber Morocco
Carthage (massacred to the last man)
India
Italy
Sicily
Venetian Empire
Habsburg empire
Portugal
Catalonia
Switzerland
Poland
Holy Roman Empire
Israel (massacred to the last man)
Accra (massacred to the last man)
Lots (and I mean 100+) Indian kingdoms (most massacred to the last man)
This is not anywhere close to a complete list.
Care to provide a list of how it's all these people's fault ? It would be a pretty fucking long list.
In all cases, muslims are the agressors, often attacking without warning and without even recording any justification other than "conquer the world" in their own history books. Most of these countries were the nearest neighbour to the muslim empire. Nothing more. If you're going to list what people have done to wrong muslims, it'll be one extensive list that you'll be needing. If, on the other side, you assume that muslims are out to conquer using religious massacres and wars, it all makes perfect sense.
Muslims have exterminated loads of peoples. Northern Africa was black before islam. And we know perfectly well what happened : 1000 years of slavery, and 1000 years of systematic extermination. Muslims are equally famous for being behind the biggest massacre of history, the mughal invasion of India.
Northern Africa was inhabited by Indo Europeans. They later converted to Islam. They were the pirats enslaving Indo Europeans living in Europe and they had a large share in the slave trading.
North Africa is peopled by muslim Indo Europeans much more than it is peopled by muslim arabs.
It is very entertaining but I think at some point you will realize it is impossible to have a meaningful discussion with the self chosen khazars. Simply view them as objects of scorn and ridicule, then move on. They are not interested in facts, it is more chest thumping honing the art of throwing chutzpah out to the goyim their high school teachers told them people would actually believe.
When you see terms like you are a hater, human shields, anti-semitic, and then the constant use of vulgar language you would expect from a monkey in the zoo, you are probably not dealing with the A-team anyway.
It is all probably a worthwhile lesson anyway as soon the blind begin to notice the psychopathic murderous nature and aversion to any type truth.
This pretty well sums it up.
"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattlce at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." -
Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset quoted in Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982 by Amnon Kapeliouk.
http://www.countercurrents.org/lamb010709.htm
A great quote here by one of the day shift crew also.
There's another way to look at this:
Dear less-fit humans. How does it feel to be SO stupid as to fall for the same scams over and over and over for generations? Why don't you worthless losers just fess-up that you're genetically inferior, and kill yourselves and your worthless DNA bling.
Survival of the fittest, BITCHZZZZ!!!
NotRealAmerican
The Israelis should grease the treads of their tanks with the blood of the muslim dog barbarians.
Phillycheesesteak
In case someone doesn't know. This is a quote falsely attributed to Menachem Begin in an article by Amnon Kapeliouk, titled "Begin and the Beasts", published in the New Statesman, June 25, 1982. The guy, incidentally, was a Palestinian, and well, quite simply, he lied. No such statement was ever said in the Knesset.
I find it funny that you mention this though, in defense of muslims. Look up "Dhimma", and tell me if that's made up too. If you are against people treating others as second class, how can you possibly ever defend muslims ?
One basic property of islam's legal system is that there are different classes of people:
-> female slaves (can legally be killed by anyone)
-> male slaves (can legally be killed by their owners, or by muslims)
-> female dhimma (can be legally killed by muslims)
-> male dhimma (can legally be killed by muslims)
-> female muslim (can legally be killed by their parents, or husband)
-> male muslim (can legally be killed, without explanation, by the state. Google "3 reasons to kill a muslim")
So I find it baffling that you defend muslims using equality as an argument. Truly and utterly baffling.
Famous Quotes"Zionist colonization must either be terminated or carried out against the wishes of the native population. This colonization can, therefore, be continued and make progress only under the protection of a power independent of the native population - an iron wall, which will be in a position to resist the pressure to the native population. This is, in toto, our policy towards the Arabs..." Vladimir Jabotinsky, The Iron Wall, 1923.
"If we are going to admit claims on conquest thousands of years ago, the whole world will have to be turned upside down." Lord Sydenham, Hansard, House of Lords, 21 June 1922.
The Palestinians are "..beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, 'Begin and the "Beasts"', New Statesman, 25 June 1982.
"When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.
"How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to."Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.
"If it is proper to 'reconstitute' a Jewish state which has not existed for two thousand years, why not go back another thousand years and reconstitute the Canaanite state? The Canaanites, unlike the Jews, are still there." H.G. Wells, quoted in Palestine Dilemma: Arab Rights Versus Zionist Aspirations, by Frank C. Sakran, Public Affairs Press, 1948, p. 204.
"We must expel Arabs and take their places." David Ben Gurion, future Prime Minister of Israel, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.
"A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!... Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important... to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot - or else I am through with playing at colonizing."Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism (precursor of Likud), The Iron Wall, 1923.
"Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both peoples together in this country. We shall not achieve our goal if the Arabs are in this small country. There is no other way than to transfer the Arabs from here to neighboring countries - all of them. Not one village, not one tribe should be left." Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department in 1940. From "A Solution to the Refugee Problem" Joseph Weitz, Davar, September 29, 1967, cited in Uri Davis and Norton Mevinsky, eds., Documents from Israel, 1967-1973, p.21.
"The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Haaretz, 19 March 1972.
"We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.
"...if people become accustomed to the large figure and we are actually obliged to accept the return of the refugees, we may find it difficult, when faced with hordes of claimants, to convince the world that not all of these formerly lived in Israeli territory. It would, in any event, seem desirable to minimize the numbers...than otherwise." Israeli official Arthur Lourie in a letter to Walter Eytan, director general of the Israeli Foreign Ministry (ISA FM 2564/22). From Benny Morris, "The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem 1947-49", p. 297.
"If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more force...." Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press, November 16, 2000.
One of the most enduring and deceptive slogans of Zionism was coined by Israel Zangwill almost 100 years ago: Palestine was a "land without people for a people without land."
After paying a visit to Palestine in 1891, the Hebrew essayist Achad Ha-Am commented: " Abroad we are accustomed to believe that Israel is almost empty; nothing is grown here and that whoever wishes to buy land could come here and buy what his heart desires. In reality, the situation is not like this. Throughout the country it is difficult to find cultivable land which is not already cultivated."
The removal of Arabs bodily from Palestine is part of the Zionist plan to "spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment...Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried away discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.
In 1899, Davis Triestsch wrote to Herzl: " I would suggest to you to come round in time to the "Greater Palestine" program before it is too late... the Basle program must contain the words "Great Palestine" or "Palestine and its neighbouring lands" otherwise it's nonsense. You do not get ten million Jews into a land of 25,000 Km2".
Vladimir Jabotinsky (the founder and advocate of the Zionist terrorist organizations): "Has any People ever been seen to give up their territory of their own free will? In the same way, the Arabs of Palestine will not renounce their sovereignty without violence." Quoted by Maxime Rodinson in Peuple Juif ou Problem Juif. (Jewish People or Jewish Problem).
David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): " If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.
Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 "We must do everything to insure they (the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes, "The old will die and the young will forget."
Also Ben Gurion stated " The present map of Palestine was drawn by the British mandate. The Jewish people have another map which our youth and adults should strive to fulfill -- From the Nile to the Euphrates."
"Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our time is the emergence in the newly created State of Israel of the Freedom Party (Herut), a political party closely akin in its organization, method, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties." Albert Einstein, Hanna Arendt and other prominent Jewish Americans, writing in The New York Times, protest the visit to America of Menachem Begin, December 1948. Begin and Yitzhak Shamir who were members of the party became Prime Ministers.
Out of the mouths of monsters...
Ah if Americans were allowed to really think .........
Even the Great Leader has a Teleporter
Misguided fool wrote this piece.
Lets see yours, dingus
Both people have the right to exist in peace. They never will, but they do have the right to self defense as well. The problem is that both sides can't forgive,or forget past transgressions. It's sad, but they'll never get beyond retribution. I don't have a dog in the fight, and honestly wouldn't care if they went genocidal on each other as long as they stick to conventional weapons.
I'm not a fan of Israel, and certainly not a fan of muslims. Israel's problems aren't US problems. Muslims, when left to their own devices, kill each other off with reckless abandon....and I don't care.
Israel continues to be one of the biggest industrial espionage threats against the US. And in my personal dealings with Israelis on a professional level....they are arrogant fucktards. Dealing with Muslims on a professional level...you always have to wonder what militant group they are supporting. The world would be a better place without each group in my humble opinion.
Your sorry butt should be kicked to the curb for using reaon and logic on a Jew hating thread. Heretic.
"Anti-semitism is a disease. You catch it from Talmudist Ashkenazi faux Jews."
Religatards. The oldest form of koolaid drinkers.
"Don't waste your time on fundies. They think without a firm lip lock on Israel they will go to a fiery pit and be tormented forever, punished by a god that loves them so much." -- unknown
To which I would add, the dispensationalist fundie churches are so busy pushing their un-Christian Scofield Bible apostasy that you’re lucky to hear the word “Jesus” — ever. They’re too preoccupied with their homophobia, Muslim-hate, anti-abortion misogynism, Israel idolatry, war-mongering, and Democrat-bashing to give any attention to all that New Testament Jesus love thy neighbor turn the other cheek blessed are the peacemakers crap.
Where's the outrage GW?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/26/Anglican-Vicar-Says-End-of...
I could fill 100 pages with these types of stories. You have shown your true colors today. You are a Jew-hating, Muslim apologist whose only stories on the ME are anti-Israel. It sucks that TD gives you this platform. The good news is there are plenty of people who read you who see what you are. This will be my last post to any of your BS stories. It would be nice if those who see you for what you are also stop clicking on your tripe. I hope you're happy under the Caliphate. Mohammed was a Paedophile, rapist, thief, murderer and slave master. This is what Islam "the religion of peace" teaches. They love death. Clearly, so do you...especially the death of Jews. Oh, and BTW .. Fuck you!
Plus 100
you can criticize any country in the world, and you aren't confronted with this tired, ineffective tactic of crying "anti-Semite,"
Go fuck yourself with your apologetics for a racist, colonialist, nuclear rogue, apartheid state. You're the liar, you're the fucking shill and racist, not GW.
Lets hope your grandchildren are well armed when the muslim savages come for them.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ce9_1406372122
When the Muslim savages come for one of us, I will not only kill their women and children, I will kill their dogs. Until that happen, it's none of our business.
Probably wont find many Muslims with dogs
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/provocative-islamic-sign-...
"Last post"?
Promise? Buh-byeeee.
Take the pledge too Mike and save the rest of us from your ...... intellect.
I AM outraged:
YOU GUYS - whatever NeoCon or NeoLib team you're on - have made things MUCH WORSE ... and created the CONDITIONS in which the ISIS barbarians can thrive.