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If Americans Knew What Was Happening In Israel …

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If my fellow Americans understood the history of Israel and Palestine, their views would change overnight … and they would demand that Israel no longer be given unconditional support and blank checks to do whatever they want:

Postscript: Former Israeli Minister: Calling people who criticize Israeli policy “anti-semitic. It’s a trick … we always use it”.

 

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Sat, 07/26/2014 - 14:13 | 5007548 oudinot
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Well said, I agree wholeheartedly.

One cannot equate Jews with Zionists. I have friends in Israel, Jews, and they hate Netanyahu more than we do.

 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:56 | 5007332 JCC
Sat, 07/26/2014 - 17:41 | 5008017 oudinot
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Thanks for the video reference , quite informative.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:46 | 5007158 markar
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Lock people like animals in a cage with nowhere to go long enough and they will act like, well, animals. Israel has known it was just a matter of time, like the Warsaw Ghetto before it, this one would have to be "cleared out" eventually. They just needed the recent incendiary of missile attacks as justification. Sadly, not even their Arab brethren in Egypt, Jordan, or SA want these people.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:05 | 5007199 Uncle Remus
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Sadly, not even their Arab brethren in Egypt, Jordan, or SA want these people.

Why would they? There's no money in it.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:43 | 5007150 I Write Code
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If Americans were being bombarded with half-assed missiles they would do exactly what Israel is doing, or maybe something a thousand times worse.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 15:31 | 5007736 blentus
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Do idiots like you *ever* stop to think about why someone is bombarding Israel with half-assed missiles?

As long as there are enough dumb fucks like you on both sides, war will prosper.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 15:29 | 5007732 TNTARG
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As far as I know, Palestinians do not have missile industries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missiles

(Just wiki...)

The names they give to the missiles...

 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:45 | 5007298 basho
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you write code? lol it must be plain sh*t with your half-assed logic. none of your posts make any sense at all. get a life.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 14:39 | 5007601 Colonel Klink
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I believe he was head code writer for the first Zerocare website.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:19 | 5007240 the grateful un...
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as likely as that seems american have never treated mexicans (or canadians) as badly as israel treats the palestinians

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:08 | 5007203 chumbawamba
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Is that same sense of righteous retribution applicable to the Pakistanis who are being blown up every day by US Predator drones?

Don't be a hypocrite now.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 13:33 | 5007373 I Write Code
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Well actually, that's a fine example, and the reason we were blowing people up in Pakistan is that their favorite passtime was crossing the border and shooting US troops.

If instead they were crossing the US border and shooting US civilians, how do you think that would go?

As long as I'm in this cesspool again, let's just run some numbers, the 2,000 or so rockets Hamas has already fired at Israel (and really, who's counting), multiply by 30 or so to get an approximate number scaled to the US.  So, if 60,000 half-assed rockets had been fired across the border at the US, with another 500,000 or so known to be still there and waiting, how would you like them apples?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 16:10 | 5007824 DaveyJones
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You're having a hard time with concept of causation, literally, legally. and psychologically. You also ignore their local history Are you suggesting that every single IDF war crime is only an act of self defense? That the zionists have not consistently and violently seized private property, set up a very detailed and sophisiticated set of laws that discriminate, and have not become consistently and increasingly violent?

Once again, I invite you to discredit the IDF general's son....but what does he know. I'm sure your day to day living in the strip will guide you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyz3NEGf5PE

 

     

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:12 | 5007215 Canucklehead
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Nobody cares about Pakistanis. Look how their culture regressed compared to the Indians and the rest of the world since the partition.

You can't fix stupid...

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 08:47 | 5009330 BigJim
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 Nobody cares about Pakistanis. Look how their culture regressed compared to the Indians and the rest of the world since the partition.

You can't fix stupid...

Spoken like the racial supremacist you are. Hey! Look! Pakistanis aren't technologically advanced like us Zionists (most of whom are actually culturally European)! Ergo, we can kill them in large numbers and it's ok, cause they didn't invent stuff like us 'Jews'.

Which reminds me, Canucklehead - what have YOU invented lately? I mean, apart from excuses to kill people outside 'your' tribe? Oh, not much? I guess you'd be ok with a more technologically sophisticated family killing yours and taking your house then.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 19:50 | 5010929 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Which reminds me, Canucklehead - what have YOU invented lately? I mean, apart from excuses to kill people outside 'your' tribe? Oh, not much? I guess you'd be ok with a more technologically sophisticated family killing yours and taking your house then.

His neighbors would probably be cool with it.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 14:17 | 5007556 oudinot
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"You can't fix stupid"

You should know you have been trapped in your mind all your life.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:50 | 5007318 Tall Tom
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Really? Pakistani Surgical Steel is the finest in the World. The Pakistanis have Nuclear Capability. Their scientists are amongst the finest.

 

Nobody cares? Well maybe you do not care.

 

But the World does not revolve around you.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 14:08 | 5007477 Canucklehead
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http://www.spectrumsurgical.com/surgical-grade-instruments.php

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13894880

I know you represent the best of a culture with an average IQ of 65. Please, do some research.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:47 | 5007307 basho
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"You can't fix stupid..." you got that right knucklehead. your posts are a self-fulfilling proof lol

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 13:56 | 5007487 Canucklehead
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So your point is? Am I stupid for writing the post or are you stupid for responding such as you did? Did the hook get you?

Which is it Basho?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:49 | 5007164 optimator
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No.  Americans are being invaded and not only doing nothing, they are giving aid and sustinence to the invaders and asking more to invade and take what we have.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 09:17 | 5009378 AnAnonymous
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No. Americans are being invaded and not only doing nothing, they are giving aid and sustinence to the invaders and asking more to invade and take what we have.
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'Americans' are invading? Where? When?

The Indians in 'American' were invaded but the 'americans'?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 13:31 | 5007405 I Write Code
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If the Palestinians would just stop already with the rockets and the suicide vests and such, this would be exactly how they'd be getting along with Israel - or even moreso.

In fact, if you want to know why Israel isn't doing something 10x worse, it's because there is, or was, a lot of that same kind of crossover between about 1948 and 2000 or so.  At least that's the best I can figure.  Even while smaller-scale attacks went on and on and on.  Yet the Palestinians on the whole weren't happy with that and voted in Hamas, and now would rather do what they're doing than move to more open borders with Israel.

Actually, the "immigration reform" that both sides really want in the US would keep most of the US border probably more open than it is now, just with more paperwork.  Both US parties love floods of cheap labor, though for different reasons.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 08:42 | 5009324 BigJim
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 If the Palestinians would just stop already with the rockets and the suicide vests and such, this would be exactly how they'd be getting along with Israel - or even moreso.

Here, let me help you out Hasbara!

7) "Hamas has been obstructing people from getting the food and the medicines that they need."

Maybe, but are we expected to believe that the Israelis care about the health and well-being of the people of Gaza? According to a 'secret' US State Department cable, based on conversations between US diplomats and senior Israeli officials, revealed by Wikileaks in 2011: "Israeli officials have confirmed to Embassy officials on multiple occasions that they intend to keep the Gazan economy functioning at the lowest level possible consistent with avoiding a humanitarian crisis.. As part of their overall embargo plan against Gaza, Israeli officials have confirmed ... on multiple occasions that they intend to keep the Gazan economy on the brink of collapse without quite pushing it over the edge." Also, official Israeli documents, released to the Gisha human rights organisation under Freedom of Information legislation, showed that "the Israeli military made precise calculations of Gaza's daily calorie needs to avoid malnutrition during a blockade imposed on the Palestinian territory between 2007 and mid-2010" and then refused to allow in enough trucks of food to meet those "daily calorie needs".

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/israeli-ambassador-gaza.html

So even when the Palestinians observe the ceasefires (which are just as often broken by Israel as they are by Hamas, I might add) Israel and US satraps Egypt maintain the ruinous blockade that makes Gazans' life a misery.

Blockades, I might add (for the legally-minded), are technically acts of war; so the Gazans (on those grounds alone) are entitled to fire rockets at their besieging neighbours.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 19:10 | 5008233 David449420
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Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:47 | 5007159 JCC
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No maybe about it, they would definitely do something 1000 times worse. Which is probably why The U.S. Govt rabidly supports the rabid Israeli Govt and the somewhat sociopathic Netanyahu. Birds of a feather often flock together.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:21 | 5007096 Gadfly
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More from Naomi:

Okay, so I was challenged below: "Read the Bible! God gave the land of Israel to the Jewish people." So....I may get crucified for this but I have started to say it -- most recently (terrified, trembling) to warm welcome in a synagogue in LA: Actually if you read Genesis Exodus and Deuteronomy in Hebrew -- as I do -- you see that God did not "give" Israel to the Jews/Israelites. We as Jews are raised with the creed that "God gave us the land of Israel" in Genesis -- and that ethnically 'we are the chosen people." But actually -- and I could not believe my eyes when I saw this, I checked my reading with major scholars and they confirmed it -- actually God's "covenant" in Genesis, Exodus and Deuteronomy with the Jewish people is NOT ABOUT AN ETHNICITY AND NOT ABOUT A CONTRACT. IT IS ABOUT A WAY OF BEHAVING.

Again and again in the "covenant" language He never says: "I will give you, ethnic Israelites, the land of Israel." Rather He says something far more radical - far more subversive -- far more Godlike in my view. He says: IF you visit those imprisoned...act mercifully to the widow and the orphan...welcome the stranger in your midst...tend the sick...do justice and love mercy ....and perform various other tasks...THEN YOU WILL BE MY PEOPLE AND THIS LAND WILL BE YOUR LAND. So "my people" is not ethnic -- it is transactional. We are God's people not by birth but by a way of behaving, that is ethical, kind and just. And we STOP being "God's people" when we are not ethical, kind and just. And ANYONE who is ethical, kind and just is, according to God in Genesis, "God's people." And the "contract" to "give" us Israel is conditional -- we can live in God's land IF we are "God's people" in this way -- just, merciful, compassionate. AND -- it never ever says, it is ONLY your land. Even when passages spell out geographical "boundaries" as if God does such a thing, it never says this is exclusively your land. It never says I will give this land JUST to you. Remember these were homeless nomads who had left slavery in Egypt and were wandering around in the desert; at most these passages say, settle here, but they do not say, settle here exclusively. Indeed again and again it talks about welcoming "zarim" -- translated as "strangers" but can also be translated as "people/tribes who are not you" -- in your midst. Blew my mind, hope it blows yours.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 19:09 | 5008230 Wild tree
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It is important to walk the talk, not to believe in might makes right. What you spoke Gadfly is so true. I am a "Wild tree", grafted in by my faith. I attempt the higher calling, but fall short. I try mightily to follow in Christ's footsteps. As such, I am given to understand that I am a "Joint Heir", supported by the root Yeshua. Romans 11

I love God, he loves me and unlike me, loves everyone else. He wants all to come to repentence over their unrighteousness. I do also, but only for those not representing a threat to my family. I want to kill, and will, those who want to hurt my loved ones. It is my hope, and prayer, that he will not allow any "weapon formed against my family to prosper".

Truth speaks, as in your post.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:51 | 5007322 basho
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did you ever ask yourself who 'wrote' the bible? the same clowns that claim god gave them "israel". it's all BS. it was a god they created and this god gave them all this geography. how convenient. LOL

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 21:14 | 5010675 Seek_Truth
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The 66 books of the Bible were written:
 On three continents.
In three languages.
By about 40 different people (kings, shepherds, prophets, an army general, fishermen, priests, physician, etc).
Over a period of about 1,500 years.
On the most controversial subjects.
By people who, in most cases, had never met.
By authors whose education and background varied greatly.

Yet it tells a completely cohesive story, all based on the same theme, of mankind’s fall, and the Love God showed by sending His son as a sacrifice to buy the souls of all men wishing to be redeemed.

And what is required to be redeemed?

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” – John 3:16

Only a book breathed by God could meet the above criteria, and there is no other book like it.

It is The Word Of God.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 13:35 | 5007418 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Basho, try reading the Bible cover-to-cover and then come back and tell us it is fiction, I dare yoy. You have never read the Bible and you do not know what it means whatsoever. Read the Bible before commenting on it. If you refuse to read the Bible you have no place

commenting on it IMHO. Everyone here that has read the Bible knows that you have not read it at all. Man up and read the fucking Bible before running off at the mouth.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 08:36 | 5009314 BigJim
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So we have to read the hundreds of pages that do little but describe begettings to know whether or not the Bible is principally a work of fiction?

Why?

Have you read all of the Gormenghast novels? No? How do you know they're fiction then?

Oh, that's not a religious text? OK... you read all the Upanishads? No? I suppose you'll have to believe they're true, too, in that case.

Too bad they don't even mention the Hebrew God. I guess you've got some serious syncretism to get through before dinner.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:08 | 5007204 bluskyes
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If you read your Bible, God promised the land to the children of Abraham, not just Jacob's chilldren.

That covenant covers Ishmael, and Esau's children.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 23:44 | 5008800 Seek_Truth
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"If you read your Bible, God promised the land to the children of Abraham, not just Jacob's chilldren."

A common misinterpretation. In actuality, it was through Abraham's seed (not seeds) that all humankind would be blessed. Clearly refering to Abraham's seed, Jesus Christ:

The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ. - Galatians 3:16

Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. - Galatians 3:19

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 11:56 | 5012951 bluskyes
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In a Biblical context, seed is sperm, from which Ishmael came directly. Esau, being a grandson of Abraham, is also included.

I am only repeating the Bible, while you are attempting to mold it's words to better fit your pre-conceived notions of what is right, and wrong. This is common to all  "Christian" denominations. They like to pick, and choose what they believe from the Bible, rather than reading it, and re-avaluating their life accordingly.

The salt has lost it's savour.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:56 | 5007177 Comte d'herblay
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Nothing with God in it--- the word or thc concept----- can blow my mind but in only one way: 

How pitiful it is that billions of people believe in a non-existent, totally fabricated entity no more real than an honest politician, or humble hillary clinton. And the crimes, genocides, and obliteration of entire countries using "god's will" as the excuse.

 

 

 

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 16:21 | 5010343 Tall Tom
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And the crimes, genocides, and obliteration of entire countries using "god's will" as the excuse.

 

Yes Governments are made up of the atheists and Satanists that use the "Will of God" as the excuse.

 

Now you can claim membership in the Animal Kingdom if you so shall choose. In that Worldview it is the "Survival of the Fittest" that is the true morality. Even the great athiest, Friedrich Nietzsche, admonished that there is no such concept as "Good or Evil" and that atheists need abandon that, in his epic work, "Beyond Good and Evil"

 

So, of course, Murder, Lies, Cheating, Fraud, Theft and Deceit are to be utilized to achieve any goal which the individual deems necessary as it is "Survival of the Fittest".

 

Why is it so surprising that the atheist in Government will employ that which he believes is a lie, "the will of God", to achieve his goal of survival? It will only be expected as some of the atheists ascribe to the rules of "Moral Relativism" and has no regard for the truth.

 

The political leaders, who claim a belief in God for EXPEDIENCE, has no qualms about using that utility to bring about their nefarious and injurious psychopathic goals.

 

The problem is not God. That has a DUAL MEANING. God is not the problem. But the lack of belief in God, allows the nefarious to act with impunity, destroying anyone whom gets in their way.

 

Are you one of these ravenous monsters, Comte d'herblay, as you place seek to place the blame upon that outside of yourselff, on believers and true practioners of their Spirituality?

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:17 | 5007083 Gadfly
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Naomi Wolf, wrote the following on Facbook yesterday. Wolf is part of a rising chorus of folks who are describing the latest Israeli onslaught as genocide. 

Challenged below for why I am mourning genocide in Gaza. I mourn genocide in Gaza because I am the granddaughter of a family half wiped out in a holocaust and I know genocide when I see it. People are asking why I am taking this ‘side’. There are no sides. I mourn all victims. But every law of war and international law is being broken in the targeting of civilians in Gaza. I stand with the people of Gaza exactly because things might have turned out differently if more people had stood with the Jews in Germany. I stand with the people of Gaza because no one stood with us. I went to synagogue last Friday night and had to leave because I kept waiting for the massacre of Gaza to be addressed. … Nothing. Where is god? God is only ever where we stand with our neighbor in trouble and against injustice. I turn in my card of faith as of now because of our overwhelming silence as Jews…I don’t mean Israelis, a separate issue…about the genocide now in Gaza.

I want no other religion than this, that is, seeing rather than denying my neighbor under fire and embracing rather than dismissing those targeted with annihilation and ethnic cleansing.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 17:40 | 5008013 ClassicalLib17
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Why doesn't Ms. Wolf move to Israel and show them how to run their govt?  Better yet  why doesn't that stupid bitch move to a sharia muslim enclave in Europe?  You and she are just a couple of pompous phonies.  I didn't realize, until now, how many progressive democrats are registered on this site. 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:11 | 5007066 azusgm
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See if this makes sense. The kids in this video are now adolescents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bra53uzgPDk

 

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:16 | 5007078 alien-IQ
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Israelis torturing non-Jewish children. 2014 Australian documentary film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqL048x4msM&index=55&list=WL

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 10:59 | 5007034 world_debt_slave
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zionist only look out for zionists, the rest are just sub human animals, Christians have been duped to believe they are "Gods Chosen People"

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 15:08 | 5007686 Infinite QE
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Precisley. America's second greatest threat are the christinan zionists.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 12:56 | 5007334 basho
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christians and god's chosen are both fools. this god sells itself to whomever has the most firepower. wake up from this fairy tale and live together as humans and not as slaves to some 2000+ yr old concept.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 22:20 | 5008636 Seek_Truth
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basho,

You'll soon find out who put their faith in a "fairytale", bub.

And it sure ain't Christians.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 15:57 | 5010285 Tall Tom
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It is Americans, and others in the World, that place their faith in Governments.

 

Soon they will be sadly disappointed...soon.

 

THERE ARE NO POLITICAL SOLUTIONS.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 16:10 | 5010327 Seek_Truth
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Amen Tall Tom.

All of history and current events is God's eternal plan to demonstrate to His creation that only He and His Son are fit to rule.

All signs point to us being in the last days, and by now, everyone has been given enough evidence that human governance never has, does not now, and never will work.

And what does God ask of us: He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God." - Micah 6:8

What's the most important step in walking humbly with God?:

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." - John 3:16

The Lord is returning soon, all the signs point to it.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 11:37 | 5007139 lakecity55
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Jesus called them (proto-zionists) the Synagogue of Satan."

Does not seem there has been any change, IMO.

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