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Runaway Ebola-Infected Woman Dies As US Doctor Tests Positive For Virus

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It continues to go from bad to worse for Africa's "deadliest ever" Ebola epidemic which has officially claimed well over 600 lives, and unofficially many more.

Following the death of a Liberian government worker two days ago who collapsed in the international airport of Nigeria's 20-million megacity, Lagos which resulted in a "red alert" Nigeria clamping down into a quasi-quarantine state, sending specialists to airports and seaports fo containment, overnight we got an update on the other major Ebola story from last week, namely the female patient whose family broke her out of a hospital in Sierra Leone's capital Freetown, and who had been on the loose of several days, leading to a nationwide hunt. She has passed away, dying in an ambulance on the way to hospital, Reuters reports.

Amadu Sisi, a senior doctor at King Harman hospital in the capital Freetown, from which the patient was taken, said on Saturday that police found her in the house of a healer. Her family refused to hand her over and a struggle ensued with police, who finally retrieved her and sent her to hospital, he said. "She died in the ambulance on the way to another hospital," Sisi said.

Sierra Leone is now the African country with the highest number of Ebola cases, at least 454, surpassing neighboring Ginea where the outbreak allegedly originated in February. What is making things worse and is hindering the containment is that fear and mistrust of health workers in Sierra Leone, where many have more faith in traditional medicine. And over the past few days, this has culminated in crowds gathered outside clinics and hospitals to protest against what they see as a conspiracy, in some cases clashing with police as they threatened to burn down the buildings and remove the patients.

The hostility against the doctors is threatening the stability of the country itself:

Police were guarding the country's main Ebola hospital in Kenema in the West African country's remote east on Saturday, where dozens are receiving treatment for the virus.

 

Thousands had gathered outside the clinic the day before, threatening to burn it down and remove the patients. Residents said police fired tear gas to disperse the crowds and that a 9-year-old boy was shot in the leg by a police bullet.

 

Assistant Inspector General Alfred Karrow-Kamara said on Saturday the protest was sparked by a former nurse who had told a crowd at a nearby fish market that "Ebola was unreal and a gimmick aimed at carrying out cannibalistic rituals".

 

He said calm had been restored to Kenema on Saturday, adding that a strong armed police presence was in place around the clinic and the local police station.

 

Some health workers from the clinic have been reported absent from work because of "misconceptions by some members of the community," according to a local doctor.

It has gotten so serious, even the country's president has had to intervene: President Ernest Bai Koroma said on Saturday the government planned to "intensify activities and interventions in containing the disease and stopping it spread" with a view to ending the disease within 60 to 90 days.

And while the US public has been generally unaware of the severity of the breakout, this may soon change following news that a 33-year-old US doctor working for relief organization Samaritan's Purse in Liberia was the latest to test positive for the disease on Saturday. Telegraph reports:

The charity Samaritan's Purse issued a news release Saturday saying Dr Kent Brantly was being treated at a hospital in Monrovia, the capital. DR Brantly had been serving as medical director for the aid organisation's case management centre there.

 

Photos of Dr Brantly working in Liberia show him in white coveralls made of a synthetic material that he wore for hours a day while treating Ebola patients.

 

Brantly was quoted in a posting on the organization's website earlier this year about efforts to maintain an isolation ward for patients.

 

"The hospital is taking great effort to be prepared," Dr Brantly said. "In past Ebola outbreaks, many of the casualties have been healthcare workers who contracted the disease through their work caring for infected individuals."

Dr. Kent Brantly (right) with colleagues Stephen Snell (left) and an unidentified doctor at center in a Facebook photo posted May 25, 2013 (via NYDailyNews) 

Kent Brantley pictured with his wife and children:

And a picture of the infected doctor wearing full protective garb (left) treating an infected patient:

Is Dr Brantly's infection a possible link to bring the African epidemic into the US? Unlikely, but his family is an open question: "Samaritan's Purse spokeswoman Melissa Strickland says Dr Brantly's wife and children had been living with him in Africa but are currently in the US."

For now, one can only hope that even as the infection appears on the verge of breaking out of its west-African containment, that the local authorities will somehow magically prevent further spreading of the epidemic whose mortality rate is between 60% and 90%.

 

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Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:20 | 5009555 TeamDepends
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Wow, Tyler posted this at 11:11! Siri says the gates of Hades are open!?!

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:31 | 5009587 Renewable Life
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For almost 100 years, the advancements in medical knowledge, expertise, and equipment, has kept the human population (in areas where people could afford it) ahead of its natural predators!

This has been wonderful for billions of lives and tens of thousands of communities around the globe, sadly however, it has weakened our defenses as a population or forced our viral predators to get stronger, or both!

Now that the advancements in medicine have begun their inevitable decline in effectiveness, we are entering a very scary, dangerous, and deadly time in our evolution on this planet! What's even more scary, is we have created economic and social conditions that need to operate with no margin of error, to be maintained! So put these two dynamics together and it's very much my reasoning for being an advocate for people to decentralize and get self reliant as fast as possible!

The only defense against outbreaks of this kind and magnitude, is wide open space and the ability to disconnect your family and still survive for a significant amount of time!!

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:35 | 5009600 max2205
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Nigerian Muslims killed thousands of Christians this year alone

 

Muslims x,000 Christians 1

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:42 | 5009619 cifo
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Nothing compared to 1918 Spanish influentza, which killed more than 50 millions.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:46 | 5009631 Volaille de Bresse
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"Nothing compared to 1918 Spanish influentza, which killed more than 50 millions"

Make that "1918 US influenza"... It was brought to Europe by US troops and it most certainly originated from Kansas.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:56 | 5009655 cossack55
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Camp Funston, the asshole of Fort Riley.  I have not been the same since stationed there for a couple of years many moons ago. LOL....puke....LOL

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:05 | 5009817 Herd Redirectio...
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"Police were guarding the country's main Ebola hospital in Kenema in the West African country's remote east on Saturday, where dozens are receiving treatment for the virus.

 Thousands had gathered outside the clinic the day before, threatening to burn it down and remove the patients. Residents said police fired tear gas to disperse the crowds and that a 9-year-old boy was shot in the leg by a police bullet.

 Assistant Inspector General Alfred Karrow-Kamara said on Saturday the protest was sparked by a former nurse who had told a crowd at a nearby fish market that "Ebola was unreal and a gimmick aimed at carrying out cannibalistic rituals"."

So, basically, the Africans have pinpointed the epicentre of the epidemic (at least as far as they are concerned).

I am thinking the 'former nurse', who they labelled 'mentally ill' by the way, told people that: "All epidemics of Ebola have occurred in sub-optimal hospital conditions"

Spread in hospitals, spread by hospitals, hmm.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:23 | 5009861 Cathartes Aura
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.

*George Soros’s foundation funds the Kenema bioweapons lab at the focus of the Ebola outbreak, and which is about to be closed, apparently amid an investigation.

from 2009:

Billionaire investor George Soros also said his economic development fund was making “significant commitments” to Sierra Leone.

Soros, Sierra Leone president Ernest Bai Koroma and former UK prime minister Tony Blair all feature at Wednesday’s conference.

aye, no agenda here, none at all. . .

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:58 | 5010104 Rusty Shorts
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Sierra Leone - Open for Business

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifQ9YsYkAOo

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:51 | 5009916 weburke
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How possibly does ebola spread when it is only by blood exposure. 

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:30 | 5010035 XenoFrog
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When you're sick with ebola, there's blood in you saliva, vomit, and shit. All three of those things are very effective transmitters of the virus.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 02:05 | 5011676 svayambhu108
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Bloody shit!

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 15:19 | 5010162 Miffed Microbio...
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I'm sad to say this but historically Ebola has been rampant in the hospitals. Everyone sick goes to the hospital and it burns through the patients. This is the nature of Ebola. In the last stage of death, there is violent vomiting and blood is spewed everywhere. This is the virus's method to infect another nearby to continue its replication. The same theme is with other viruses that are airborne. Coughing and sneezing to aerosolize.

When the people fled into the jungle the outbreaks ceased. Those who were infected died in the jungle. I believe this is the only way to halt the spread. Review the WHOs campaign to eradicate small pox. Of course the difference was a vaccine was available but the house to house policy was the means to end rural cases and thereby no reservoir to reignite the outbreak. Expect militarization containment scenarios ala Outbreak. However, there will be no "magical" plasma in the end ( that silliness wreaked that movie for me....oh Hollywood just has to have a happy ending)

Miffed;-)

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 15:27 | 5010194 dizzyfingers
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During the Black Plagues of the Middle Ages, towns that closed their gates and didn't allow anyone from outside to come in, nor citizens to go out and come back, had some success in remaining plagueless.

In flu seasons here if everyone stayed  home flu would have a hard time spreading. But we'd have to make different choices and not do what we "always" do.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 16:50 | 5010418 Herd Redirectio...
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Spring through the Fall, basically!  But its true not many outbreaks start Fall through Spring.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 16:44 | 5010403 kaiserhoff
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Thanks miffed.

Anyone hve a handle on the latency period for Ebola?  That could make a world of difference.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 17:17 | 5010498 7.62x54r
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Two to twenty-one days before symptoms.

Plenty of time for it to run rampant through airports.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:36 | 5009886 Four chan
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leave it to a jesus freak to spread ebola to the usa.

 

http://www.aaroninkenya.com/2014/07/its-a/#comment-25438

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 16:42 | 5009898 Seek_Truth
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lol wut?

 

 

Are you retarded or something?

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:56 | 5010092 Rusty Shorts
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3 legged Monkey ... Skip to 2:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlEw5xH4OgY

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 15:52 | 5010271 SunRise
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FC, you're amazing.  To know of all the 1000's of arrivals per day in the U.S.,  the entire population of ebola, number of permutations, their whereabouts at all times, the total number and the whereabouts of each person contacting ebola, their individual susceptability, and quadrillions of other factors, including all past information and present information in order to assign blame to someone who's religion you disdain.  Since your abilities are this astounding,  it must in fact be you who is guilty of spreading ebola, because you obviously have the omniscience to understand it and stop it, but don't.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 17:22 | 5010507 7.62x54r
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Cry all you want.

If Ebola spreads to the US, it will likely be carried back by a missionary, or some UN or NGO puke.

http://simusa.org/content/pray/page-14/4402/missionaries_test_positive_f...

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:13 | 5009695 Cathartes Aura
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and the military/science boys have been working overtime lately to

re-activate that virus, combined with others, into a

new improved virus!!!

bio-warfare.  if you haven't been paying attention to

exactly what the shadow-military-science-complex is brewing

you're in for some massive dissonance soon. . .

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 15:36 | 5010226 Pheonyte
Sun, 07/27/2014 - 16:09 | 5010323 Cathartes Aura
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both are missionaries for the same org.

Missionaries Test Positive for Ebola
Sun, 07/27/2014 - 16:50 | 5010411 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ideological extremists of all types and stripes are a danger to the planet.  No matter if they wave a political or religious flag.  They are dangerous nut jobs, if they not only refuse to be open to other ideas, but actually want to impose their limited and warped worldview onto others.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 17:23 | 5010519 7.62x54r
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Ah, Christian down votes.

Must not let a deadly plague prevent them from spreading the Word. If you want to be a martyr, stay there.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 20:06 | 5010985 StychoKiller
Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:39 | 5009761 stormsailor
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i think the concensus is about 22 million, but i will not stop you, you're on a roll

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 16:10 | 5010324 Juno Rock
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Wrong. "1918 US influenza" 

The global "Spanish Flu" epidemic origionated on the western front during WW I when the earliest case was diagnosed in a livestock food handler of the British contingent in France. It has been surmised that due to the influenzas similarity to swine flu, that the virus mutated and was passed from pigs to the food handler.   

Check many British medical investigation records of that occurance to confirm for yourself. What is of greater concern now is that this very similar virus, has the ability to jump from swine to avian, then to human. 

Nothing quite compares to ebola. This is a mass killer with no known effective treatment or cure and none in sight. If it gets loose into the general global population it will spread like wildfire. Just look at the speed with which "Spanish Flu" epidemic spread! You must keep in mind that at that time, the world was a much larger place then now vis-a-vis international /global air travel.   

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:53 | 5009646 Infinite QE
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Or nothing like the Bolshevik virus that slaughtered 100m or so in Russia and has now reformed itself as the New Bolshevik virus who's desire is to turn the world into Gaza.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:20 | 5009717 Calmyourself
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IQE +100, the most malignant dangerous virus ever, human greed & envy turned into political sludge.  Concentrated death in a little red book..

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:29 | 5009870 RafterManFMJ
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Very astute.

Ideas are like viruses. They can spread person to person, multiply, become more virulent and infect others.

Ideas that your masters don't want you to incubate.

Fortunately, a population can be inoculated against dangerous idea viruses by an enveloping state controlled propaganda complex masquerading as news and entertainment.

The target population can have it's defenses bolstered by a steady stream of sports programming, EBT cards, and fearsome Hobgoblins like terrorists that are always in the shadows, just waiting to strike.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:43 | 5009899 Herd Redirectio...
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Like the game Telephone, writ large.

If you ever wonder how stories of mythical legends were concocted, this is basically how.  One person tells a story, another one has an idea and tacks it on, parts are changed around, and pretty soon the story is about princesses and dragons, whereas it started as a story about a fight for power, against opposition who had early gunpowder weapons (which peasants would fail to understand, hence finding a story about 'fire-breathing dragons' more relatable)...

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:32 | 5009744 Monty Burns
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And to turn all White countries into Brazil.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:20 | 5009855 25or6to4
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If you like your mulattos you can keep your mulattos. Not so much for white folk.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:32 | 5009878 thamnosma
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Yeah, but they sure have a lot of awesome babes in micro bikinis

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:01 | 5009933 The Chief
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That sure worked out well for Brazil. They do have a lot of hotties down there. However, the gene pool isnt yet thoroughly blended and what you get is a clusterfuck.

It's kind of like India. For some reason that is mired in antiquity, the light-skinned population HATES the darker skinned peoples. They actually think that the the darker skinned people are inferior in some physiological kind of way. Why is that? What knowledge have they been exposed to throughout the many centuries that they would draw such a conclusion? Of course they aren't inferior, just different.

It's a serious question. If you can answer that one intelligently, you might be able to openly ask it in Europe and in the US.

I love Brazil, BTW.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 15:16 | 5010148 bbq on whitehou...
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Long ago, tribes treated and saw other humans as nothing more then other animals to exploit and kill, even eat. This was because humans lacked a good writen language and often never bothered to learn the language outside of their own tribe.

Over-time, trade started and even a common language was developed (sign and some common words). This allowed for greater enlighenment of views outside of the tribe.

Some of that tribal DNA still exists today, even if we think we are enlighten and over such primitive thoughts of self > family > tribe.
We as enlighened people are still in the enlightened stage of evolution. Like a child who doesn't know or see reason, in the holding of a pet by the head. It takes an adult to show them how.
To say nothing of discrimination for personal benifit.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 17:26 | 5010534 7.62x54r
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I'll give the Brazilians credit for ending slavery without starting a shooting war.

Everyone born or immigrated after a certain date was declared a full citizen. Simple and easy.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:10 | 5009686 Day_Of_The_Tentacle
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Re-post.

I posted the - admittedly tinfoily - comment below on the "Ebola Victim On The Run In West Africa Capital" thread (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-25/ebola-victim-run-west-africa-ca...), but the thread was already pretty much stale. ZH commentor Lore suggested that I re-post to see if there would be more discussion on a fresh thread. So apologies in advance for shamelessly pushing this post in here towards the top of this page. I have included Lore's response at the bottom of my post. Last thing - if it sounds like I am bitch-poking at ZH for covering this story intensively, that was by no means the intention.

>>>>

We are obviously meant to "really-really-notice" this "Ebola on the run" narrative, since it has be on the front page or as sticker post on ZH for unusually long.

So this is what I have noticed:

1) On the 8th March 2014 an entity is able to make an entire airplane vanish out of thin air (MH370)

2) On the 17th July 2014 an entity shoots down a civilian airplane from the same company over Ukraine (MH17)

3) On the 17th July or on early 18th July rebel leaders report that a significant number of bodies are not fresh and there are a lot of medicals in the cargo

This ignited internet speculation, should this report be proven true, that these not fresh bodies are some of the missing passengers from MH370, and that MH117 was orghestrated to dispose of the bodies. The report also ignited speculation that the bodies were carriers of a weaponized biological agent.

Let's just pause there for a sec. Lets take the report about decaying bodies on MH17 at face value and assume it is true.

A) If you were an entity powerful enough to make an entire plane "vanish out of this air", would you really need a second very publicly scrutinized crash to dispose of the bodies. with all the risks of something going wrong in your evil plot, No, you wouldn't. The bodies from MH370 would have been disappeared in a much less public manner.

B) Which makes it logical that the bodies had a specific purpose, because they would not have been onboard otherwise. Enter the weaponized biological agent carrier possibility.

C) Why did international observers not arrive instantaniously at the crash site, when reporters en mas were clearly able to arrive and stay alive from the very first hours after the crash? It must be assumed that personal security for government dispatched international observers can be arranged much better than for a journalist - even if the whole scene was dangerous. Previously, we have had crowned heads, prime ministers and celebrities visiting troops in warzones in Iraq and Afghanistan without much ado.

D) Is the "Ebola on the run" news narrative being ramped up hard right now, because someone knows that a bug has been released in Ukraine, and they need cover for when the first cases starts to become public? So people will automatically connect the seeded dots and think that this is because of free air travel and someone from Africa arriving in Ukraine brought the bug along?

Lets hit play again, and examine a few other tidbits:

4) On the 25th March 2014, ZH runs a piece about a Canadian man, who comes home from West Africa with haemoragic fever illness resembling Ebola, but who tested negative for Ebola itself. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-25/ebola-virus-outbreak-spreads-ca... and http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-26726745

5) On the 4th April 2014, ZH report that a plane from Guinea has briefly been quarantined in Paris due to Ebola scare. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-04/frontrunning-april-4

6) On the 5th of April, ZH provides a background piece on Ebola, taken from cartel mouthpiece Bloomberg, that was also published on Bloomberg on the 4th April 2014. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-05/mapping-worlds-ebola-outbreaks and http://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/ebola/

7) On the 14th April 2014, SgtReport publish that because of "emerging threats" Haemoragic Fever detection kits have been distributed to the national guard of ALL 50 states up to the 8th April 2014. http://sgtreport.com/2014/04/ebola-detection-kits-deployed-to-national-g...

Lets pause again and evaluate:

E) The man in Canada had an Ebola resembling illness, but it was not Ebola. It was also not Warburg, Rift Valley or Lassa In the article, the WHO speculated that it could be a severe case of malaria. I am not a medical professional, but I call BS on that statement, because as far as I know, malaria is a parasite (=large), which should be readily detectable in the victim. Was this man weaponized with an unknown virus? Or had he contracted a natural mutation? It would be lovely with some follow-up news on his diagnosis.

F) We have potential arrival of Ebola-like symptoms in Canada and Paris, and we have enough worry about the situation in the US for distribution of new detection hardware in all 50 states shortly thereafter.

Play again:

8) On 11th December 2013, ZH reported that a new outbreak of Bubonic Plague had surfaced in Madagascar. Natural or incubator/small test case? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-11/black-death-back

9) On the 19th July 2014, immediately after MH-17 crash, ZH reported that the number of Pneumonic Plague cases in Colorado had increased dramatically this year. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-19/three-more-cases-most-deadly-fo...

10) On the 23rd July 2014, immediately after MH-17 crash, ZH reported that China had quarantined an entire city because of 1 case of Bubonic Plague - which made a western medical professional comment out loud that it was an unusually dramatic step to take based on only one case. He speculated that there was "something about this we do not know". http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-23/china-seals-yumen-city-after-ou...

Pause again:

G) Did anyone here on ZH or other blogs research the Trans Asia Air crash (23th July 2014) and the Air Algerie crash (24th July 2014) to see, who were on board, what was in the cargo and if there were any similarities in terms of irregularities in flight path, ATC communications, eyewitness accounts, ownership, insurance policies, options trades etc.? If so - please share.  

H) By now it is pretty clear to me either that we are supposed to accept un-free air travel and airport closures "for our own safety" at some point in the nearer future. Maybe someone needs to control a coming spike in the oil-price with reduced jet-fuel consumption. Or maybe all these reports are indeed flak laid out for a case of something nasty coming out of Ukraine. If that turns out to not be the case or ot is the case but it is successfully contained, then - if nothing else - these stories can conveniently be used to support the over-population meme later.

I) But of course there is a bigger picture as well. This picture is very unclear to me, but there are a few characteristics that bugs me profoundly. Earlier on we had outbreaks of the H5N1 avian flu in Asia. This mutated into a H7N9, which is more likely to infect humans, in an Chinese epidemic in 2013. Earlier again we had the SARS epidemic in Asia, that suddenly vanished. We have MERS largely contained in the Middle East. And then we have had the wildly exaggerated Swine Flu scare in Europe, which begs the question, if someone was deliberately crying wolf to de-sensitize the public enough to not pay attention, when the real mass-killer arrives - or if the swine-flu actually started out as a real serious threat, but was contained somehow, and we were never told the truth (I think, I remember that there was a much deadlier variant on the loose in Mexico). 

Here is what bugs me (pun intended): 

a) One scientist came out during the Avian Flu and said that the DNA sequence of one of the avian flu's (I forget which one) was engineered. That this sequence could not have been a result of natural mutation. 

b) If I recall correctly, SARS has been reported to hit only Asian people. The victims of H7N9 has a significant over-representation of older men (and the disease is centered in China, which interesting enough also has an over-population of men, who will eventually become older, due to the one-child policy). 

c) MERS is largely contained in the Middle East. 

d) The swine-flu killed old people and children. 

Of course, older people are generally more vulnerable also to the normal flu, so these observations may be entirely natural, but I just cannot help wondering - with all this global airtravel - how these different types of infectious diseases manages to stay roughly with in the same geografical region or the same demografic group.

In any case, I guess we will know within the next 20-30 days, if MH-17 had small blind passengers on larger blind passengers, or of this is just another product of the collective warped minds of unemployed internet tinfoilers being bored in their mothers' basements.

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Lore's Response:

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Hello DOTT,

This is an interesting bit of speculation.  You might repost it under the next virus-related ZH article so as to invite more feedback, since the ZH article above is already getting a bit stale, so your notes will not benefit from the same traffic. 

Here's my thought:  Elites are unlikely to release an agent that could pose a significant threat to themselves. The trouble with all viruses when considering them for biowarfare is that they are susceptible to a phenomenon called Antigenic Shift: different viruses come into contact with each other in your bloodstream (or elsewhere) and exchange DNA in dangerously unpredictable and uncontrollable ways, resulting sometimes in benign products and sometimes in new viruses that can be devastating.  Knowledge of this danger is what drives the elites to spend a tremendous amount of money funding projects to dig up old viruses, catalog their DNA and study and experiment with them for the primary purpose of understanding how they behave. The value of this research is primarily anticipatory and pre-emptive in nature: "If there is a danger to 'us,' 'we' want our scientists to be ready with a vaccine." 

Some very bad bugs seem to be making a comeback lately, for various reasons that include overuse of antibiotics and bizarre government policy decisions. Whooping cough is making a terrible comeback in my region, yet there is no coverage. Why?!  Ebola seems to pop up in the media periodically. I don't know why this episode is particularly large, but expect that it will be contained now that there has been some public alert and measures are being taken.  Why did Swine Flu pop up immediately after the President's visit to Mexico?  Dunno.  The very name seems like some perverse inside joke, as in "When pigs fly."

As for the bodies of MH17 being in an advanced state of decay, the credibility of that information is another open question.  It appears that a large number of bodies are being repatriated under controlled conditions. If there is a bioagent, it will become obvious in the locations where those bodies are stored. Most realistically, the bodies were just smelly because they were exposed to hot sun, which speeds decomposition.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:19 | 5009712 CrashisOptimistic
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The bad news for you is you don't know the 1st corollary of all rules of posting comments on ZH.

No one reads anything longer than 3 short paragraphs in a comment.

So, you lose.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:19 | 5009849 espirit
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Yeah Crash, TLDR.

"Bitch Poking?" - got that fawr.

Do that all the time.

It is Fight Club, donchaknow.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:15 | 5009987 Headbanger
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Yeah, nice fucking wall of text douche bag!

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 17:56 | 5010413 Lore
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You three are wrong and out of line and intellectually lazy. ZHers need to be free to express complex ideas. If a post is relevant and cogent and constructive, it justifies itself. 

DOTT, I apologise for these self-important egotists with a short attention span who misrepresent the spirit of ZH.

The only thought I would add to our previous exchange is that the true state of advancement of biowarfare is a matter of conjecture. Nobody knows how 'good' these scientists are at targeting a restricted population. I remember the overwhelming preponderance of Asians among victims of SARS, and some writers assert that HIV is at least partly engineered to target a particular group. Certain prescriptions and food additives likewise seem instrumental in affecting certain groups in particular ways. History shows that psychopaths are entirely willing to support and carry out the most unscrupulous, diabolical research. One wonders if modern biowarfare could be multi-vectored, with symptoms and mortality varying across different populations depending on the introduction and combination of different pathogens with regional, seasonal, demographic, nutritional, lifestyle and other factors. 

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 18:49 | 5010742 Tall Tom
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CrashisOptimistic, espirit, and Headbanger.

 

Learn to Speed Read. It is not too difficult.

 

Other than that I want a plethoora of information and topic coverage here. I will get more out of some comments than I will out of original articles.

 

For instance...

H) By now it is pretty clear to me either that we are supposed to accept un-free air travel and airport closures "for our own safety" at some point in the nearer future. Maybe someone needs to control a coming spike in the oil-price with reduced jet-fuel consumption. Or maybe all these reports are indeed flak laid out for a case of something nasty coming out of Ukraine. If that turns out to not be the case or ot is the case but it is successfully contained, then - if nothing else - these stories can conveniently be used to support the over-population meme later.

 

 

Now he can be right. Or...Perhaps not.

 

But the gist is that with reduced Air Travel and with reduced consumption of Oil, as a result, then perhaps it is a good time to SHORT AIRLINE STOCKS and SHORT OIL???

 

Of course you three are not into making money, are you? You are too dense to see that his analysis, perhaps flawed, may give you some fucking INSIGHT as to what is going on or will be going on in the near future.

 

I encourage everyone to write.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 23:38 | 5011486 Miffed Microbio...
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Lore,

This may be a bit of a jump. Coccidioides immitis is a local fungus in south western USA. Most locals who get it experience possibly a bad chest cold, some don't even know they have had it though they are skin test positive for exposure. Non locals, especially with immune system problems , have gotten fatal infections. Several people from other parts of the country come here to retire and occasionally die from Valley Fever. Phillipinos are 20X more likely to get it. One got it just driving through the San Joaquin Valley with the windows down. This is not due to any bioengineering. In your local environment you have more of a natural immunity to the organisms around you. Also, infections with viruses are specific to proteins on the cell wall acting as a lock and key mechanism. If the receptor site is not present, or genetically a mutation, the virus cannot enter the cell. Therefore, these individuals will be naturally immune.

I cannot refute the allegation bioengineering is involved but there are natural reasons certain races are more susceptible or resistant to a pathogen.

Miffed;-)

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 06:10 | 5021627 Lore
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Interesting, and theoretically possible to weaponise. Let's agree that we underestimate the ambitions of powerful psychopaths at our own risk.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:18 | 5009713 cossack55
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Google "dead scientists" and note the number of Bioengineers who have checked out various way. Hmmmmmm......

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:37 | 5009757 Herd Redirectio...
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Its a dangerous profession!  Lots of nailgun hobbyists for some reason.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 23:03 | 5021022 InjectTheVenom
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... and kiteboarders

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 16:42 | 5010400 Thom_333
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Yes - it´s dangerous work to splice these thingies up in order to get them airborne - but hey , progress never came easily and cheap.

This list makes for interesting reading...

https://sites.google.com/site/bioterrorbible/dead-scientists

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:23 | 5009725 Cathartes Aura
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it's posts like these that keep me invested in reading ZH.

thank you for taking the time to re-search and re-post.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:25 | 5009729 Abitdodgie
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Let it also be known that America has just managed to mix Ebola with Rabies as a bio-weapon with a 30 to 60 day incubation period , what sort of sick person would work on such a thing, America of course where we love to kill children, and women, and old people and well anything with a pulse.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:05 | 5009815 Citxmech
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One of my Biology professors in college worked on bioweapons for the USG during Vietnam.  

He was first approached by the Army and "asked nicely" to help them out, to which he declined.  

He then received a draft notice and was told he was going to be sent to the front line unless he "reconsidered."

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 17:30 | 5010545 7.62x54r
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I'll bet the stupid pukes got some real quality research out of him.

Dumbassses.

They are damned lucky he didn't flee to Canada and spill his guts to the press.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:49 | 5009790 Thom_333
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Thank you. Very bullish for biotech! A shot in the arm so to say. Will review my investment portfolio with a view to go into biotech.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:56 | 5009926 blunderdog
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Reminds me a bit of the premise of World War Z, but for sure there's no way to discount any of it, and it qualifies at the very least as "plausible."

Interesting times.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 15:28 | 5010203 lakecity55
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That movie may have been predictive programming similar to the Lone Gunman episode where planes were to crash into the towers.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:03 | 5009937 jballz
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Jesus you are the problem with conspiracy theories.

There is no secret illuminati cabal out to kill everyone. There are simply asshat credit creationists. They don't want you sick or dead. They want you stupid (mission accomplished) and showing up for work every day so you can make your interest payments. They are there to rape you of your productivity and keep things in order enough to make sure that happens.

If they wanted to release an epidemic clandestine like they would just sprinkle some on the narcotics that get smuggled globally every day and let nature take its course. Or in the fucking coffee for that matter.

It's ok to wear tinfoil but when you start smoking it you have gone too far.

Enjoy you Ebola, bitchez.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:34 | 5010037 layman_please
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how do you know how the psychopaths think? the fact that they (credit creationists) all work in concord is the very proof that we are dealing with the conspiracy.

 

 

excerpt from the introduction to carrol quigley's tragedy and hope by michael l. chadwick

"It is an ultra-secret group of the most powerful men on the earth. They now control every major international institution, every major multinational and transnational corporation both public and private, every major domestic and international banking institution, every central bank, every nation-state on earth, the natural resources on every continent and the people around the world through complicated inter-locking networks that resemble giant spider webs. This group is comprised of the leading family dynasties of the Canada, United States, Britain, Germany, France, Italy, Japan, Russia and China. This self-perpetuating group has developed an elaborate system of control that enables them to manipulate government leaders, consumers and people throughout the world. They are in the last stages of developing a World Empire that will rival the ancient Roman Empire. However, this new Empire will rule the entire world, not just a goodly portion of it as Rome did long ago, from its ultra-secret world headquarters in Germany. This group is responsible for the death and suffering of over 180 million men, women and children. They were responsible for World War I, World War II, the Korean War, and Vietnam, etc. They have created periods of inflation and deflation in order to confiscate and consolidate the wealth of the world. They were responsible for the enslavement of over two billion people in all communist nations—Russia, China, Eastern Europe, etc., inasmuch as they were directly responsible for the creation of communism in these nations. They built up and sustain these evil totalitarian systems for private gain. They brought Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and Roosevelt to power and guided their governments from behind the scenes to achieve a state of plunder unparalleled in world history."

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 15:00 | 5010105 layman_please
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furthermore, you are right they want everybody stupid and complacent but it's exactly diametrically opposed to what you are saying. stupid (useful idiots) are those who can't see the conspiracy unraveling in front of their very eyes in real time.

due to internet more and more people are growing aware of how our civilisation is actually built or, should i say, programmed. as a result people are becoming a threat to them. and because there are too many of us, even governments and standing armies can't confine us without mass slaughter (including nuclear or biological warfare) when we all would mobilise. though i have to say, i don't see that coming anytime soon, so they are probably taking advantage of the time they have left and will synthesise next global cataclysm. be it another world war, economic collapse or even biological threat, they will come out of that as the saviours to ask our willing permission to take control of the world that something like that would never happen again. hegelian dialectic 101.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 17:39 | 5010554 7.62x54r
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You assume too much inteligence for these assholes.

Yea, they wanted war. Saudi Arabia's Frankenstien's monster, AQ, got off the reservation, and got way too successful using highjacked airliners. Bush couldn't nuke the Saudis for it because of the petro-dollar, so a bunch of Iraqis got the war.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 17:57 | 5010635 BabylonDeer
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You forgott to find a link to the dead bankers and we may have the big picture arising soon.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:36 | 5009755 AnAnonymous
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Nothing compared to 1918 Spanish influentza, which killed more than 50 millions.
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Even the Gaza story beats the death toll.

Things going from worse to worser, the 'american' joke.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:30 | 5009876 kchrisc
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Nothing compared to government which killed over 260 million in the 20th. century alone.

 

"One could think of pols, crats and banksters as bacteria and guillotines as penicillin."

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:51 | 5009636 Renewable Life
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Oh and for those of you "trapped" in urban/suburban areas, you can still get prepared with a month or more food, water and supplies. Because the ultimate (and only) solution for the government in a serious outbreak, is to put the population under "house arrest" for as long as 60-120 days!!

Giving them time to deal with the infected, and slow the rate of infection to a manageable level, but the problem with that "solution" is in urban areas, people are unpredictable, arrogant, and don't listen, and freak out, making the containment very difficult and most likely violent!!

Wide open spaces people, it's the future of survival and prosperity!

BTW, I love ZH, when you say the most common sense, logical, and what you think is the most uncontroversial things, you get down arrowed the most:)

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:57 | 5009656 DaddyO
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Articles like this should drive home the point of self-reliant living. I live in a reasonably rural area and am trying my best to insulate my family from manageable threats like this. Good common sense and attention to hygene can help some, but isolation in the midst of a serious outbreak of any disease is the best defense.

Prepare now! Your life may depend on it.

When a crisis appears, the time to prepare is gone...

DaddyO

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:00 | 5009667 Renewable Life
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Thx DaddyO, I thought I was a voice in the wilderness on this one:)

On a related but side note, I think we would find out the "real value" of the US Stock market, the first day that this virus was detected in NYC, what do you think??

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:22 | 5009721 DaddyO
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You probably don't want to hear my view on the NYSE and the entire financial district.

Look up the word "MIRAGE" and you'll get a sense of my position.

In my view, we have ventured far from "Just Weights and Measures" and will suffer the consequences until restoration takes place.

My view is probably not popular with the current ZH crowd and I have been arguing for people to explore self-reliance for as long as I've been here on the Hedge...

I've been watching a series of webinars all summer and have found much wisdom in them.

For those who want to become more self-reliant, you should check out this Webinar Series.

Again, if influenza, ebola or chickungunya or any other infectious disease become pandemic, isolation is the only answer.

Isolation means no daily trips to the market, so you have to store food and water. What if the municipal water supply become contaminated? Are you able to filter or purify water?

A hundred questions pop into my mind when looking ahead for danger, how 'bout you?

DaddyO

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:29 | 5009740 lakecity55
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Good advice. I think our crowd is more responsive to your message than you might think.

Keep Stackin!

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:10 | 5009829 Citxmech
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While the ability to quarantine one's self or family is necessary ability in a pandemic situation - keeping ahead of things is also a vitally important skill.  Especially keeping tabs on deadly pathogens that have long incubation periods.  That's the one thing that can screw you over no matter how well you've planned:  a pathogen that can essentially run through a population before becoming symptomatic. 

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:31 | 5009743 kito
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there are experimental vaccines that have already been used for ebola, meningitis and others when "needed". you can bet that these vaccines would be bumped out of the trial phase and into mass production very fast once the "important nations" become infected.

 

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/12/09/princeton-u-begins-offering-...

 

He notes the Canadian-made Ebola vaccine — a project Feldmann led a decade ago when he worked at the National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg — was released under emergency use provisions in 2009 when a German researcher pricked herself with a needle containing Ebola virus. She survived, but it was never clear if it was because of the vaccine or because she was not infected.

"We moved heaven and earth to help a German lab technician. Why is it different because this is West Africa?" Farrar asks.

 

 

 

http://www.bramptonguardian.com/news-story/4621925-don-t-test-ebola-vaccine-drugs-now-experts/

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:37 | 5009758 Monty Burns
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"We moved heaven and earth to help a German lab technician. Why is it different because this is West Africa?" Farrar asks.

Do you really want me to answer that?

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:43 | 5009775 kito
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you cant answer rhetorical questions!!!!!!

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 16:35 | 5010383 CheapBastard
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"Self-sufficiency" is good if you can do it. I can't ... but ... I've stocked up on my favorite canned food and dried food with extremely long expiry dates. I slowly work my way thru them and every few months replace the tail end. Unfortunately difficult to teach Yutes these habits since many still have no fear, no clue.

 

Not much I can do about the "fresh food" but then again, most "fresh food" is either Fuki irradiated, contaminated from our rivers and streams, or pesticide coated ... so who needs that? I read an article on the Hopkins [or maybe the Mayo] web site that says much of our present day cancers are directly or indirectly a result of pesticieds on the food.

 

There.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:11 | 5009689 Miffed Microbio...
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Unfortunately, this probably won't induce many into a self reliant life. Most need the "in your face" experience for them to react and then, of course, is when it is too late. Ebola is still something that happens is a far away land and they and their loved ones are "safe". With modern air travel, NO ONE is immune from a pandemic.

The trick is to be prepared yourself for this scenario and not be stampeded by the panic that ensues. I live rural as well and though I bitch and moan about gas prices and commute times, I think I am better situated if trouble strikes. Almost getting burned alive in California's largest wildfire slapped some well deserved sense into me.

Miffed;-)

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:21 | 5009718 overmedicatedun...
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miffed i automaticly uptick you because i have a mental image of you, no not that image, but one of a fellow professional with too much common sense for our own good..what I fear and what both of us know having treated those who come to america for health care..if you had this infection where in the world would you try to run to? yep where all those MDRTB cases end up..not comforting to me today.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:08 | 5009961 New_Meat
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"... no not that image, ..."

Eeeeeeeewwwwww

;-) - Ned

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 17:14 | 5009853 Citxmech
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Rural life, especially a self-reliant one (ie Homesteading), is tough - and only for the truly passionate.  Most folks are trying to get away from this kind of life rather than embracing it.

This is not a bad thing, however, as there is not enough good land out there for everybody and if it was more popular, properties could be priced out of reach.

FYI - a bit of study on epidemiology would be worthwhile for any prepper.  Understanding how diseases move through populations is not always intuitive, and knowing when to implement isolation or containment protocols could save the lives of you and your loved ones.

PS  Everyone worried about a true pandemic should check this out:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eym4PwHmUvI

"After Armageddon" - a History Channel show about a worst case pandemic.  Think One Second After without the EMP.

 

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:07 | 5009959 Kirk2NCC1701
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Correct.  Whether there is Martial Law and House Arrest decreed by DC or not, the fact that it is not air borne but transmitted via body fluids, makes it self-limiting geographically:  Like all fires, when it runs out of fuel, it dies out.

Bad news for city/urban dwellers, good news for rural dwellers.  The other bit of good news is that societies that have a more intellectual (rational and informed) approach to problem solving than these people in Africa (judging by the news reports), have a much better chance of containing it -- although few things are "certain" in stats.

My bigger concern would be carrier via water or -- worse still -- via air.  In any case, for those who like to be prepared for a range of problems, having an anti-viral epidemic/pandemic should be part of the overall plan and readiness. 

Think of it as an insurance policy, like any other.  And the real reason we have insurance policies, is not that we think that whatever calamity is likely to strike, but should it strike (however small the probability), the consequences are so severe that we would not want to or be able to deal with the consequences.  This is no different.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:41 | 5009897 blunderdog
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kept the human population (in areas where people could afford it) ahead of its natural predators!

Hardly.  The only "natural predators" of humans are humans.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 17:33 | 5010553 Johnny Motel
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Another way I look at this, we have been controlling Nature to a greater and greater extent, as you say over the last 100+years, so now Nature is reclaiming back what was lost. Basically, humans are specks of dust in the face of Nature and I think this century ciould se humanity earn that lesson big time. Humans have to raise their consciouness or fail.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:30 | 5009588 CrazyCooter
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Given that (1) this guy is a full blown medical doctor and (2) he most certainly understands the basic protocols to protect himself, this does not bode well.

It appears the options are he either got stupid along the way or this time *might* be different ...

Regards,

Cooter

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:39 | 5009613 kaiserhoff
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I think Barry and his entire entourage should go to West Africa immediately to check this out, and take the banksters with them, just in case Cooter is right.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:58 | 5009661 cossack55
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Don't forget the entire criminal frauds known as CONgress.  

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:32 | 5009745 TheReplacement
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Wrong, wrong, and wrong.  Send the NSA and MIC.  Without them, the others have no fangs.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:15 | 5009699 Miffed Microbio...
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Just like he did at the border. Lice and Scabies are just too terrifying for some. I analyzed six skin scrapings Friday. Wow, I've got more balls then our president!

Miffed;-)

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:27 | 5009733 lakecity55
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....and "Michelle" has bigger balls than Backdoor Barry!

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:30 | 5009742 DaddyO
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Miffed, my guess is that you and the POTUS probably have similar genitalia, eh?

And your orientation is probably very similar to his, you both like men.

DaddyO

 

 

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:42 | 5009771 Miffed Microbio...
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I have to agree with you but the idea I have commonality with that piece of shit makes me sick and itching to distance myself. Well, maybe itching isn't the right word. ;-)

Miffed;-)

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:47 | 5009783 DaddyO
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The implications of your microbial refererence gave me a chuckle this morning thanks.

Now I have to head to the drug store for some miconazole.

DaddyO

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 20:12 | 5011002 Tall Tom
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Why are you interested in the POTUS genitalia? Or rather, ITs lack of endowment. as this is the case?

 

If You had a fist up your ass, like the sock puppet which he is, then I am sure that you would also be castrated.

 

Fist fuck...Wrist Watch...Crisco...

 

Reggie Love probably needs a Two by Four strapped across his butt to keep from falling in...ass well ass the Wookie.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:07 | 5009957 WillyGroper
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I had a red fox fun thru the yard the other day. Not one solitary hair left on him. Poor thing had skin that looked like dried flour & water. I've never seen mange like that. 

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:32 | 5010036 boodles
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That's weird.  We had a red fox blow through our yard yesterday, too, with a tale that was completely hairless -- he looked like a possum (or is it opossum)?

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 15:35 | 5010222 WillyGroper
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No, it's dinner. ;)

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 15:25 | 5010186 lakecity55
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Are you sure it was not a small mexican?

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:34 | 5009752 umdesch4
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Maybe after that we ship them off to Fukushima for some radiation treatment. Man, this world is so fucked. I'm glad I'm getting older, and got to live in a time where things weren't so bad yet. I'm saddened by the prospect of future generations having to deal with this crap. I'm about ~15 years from retirement, and I'm starting to wonder if I should bother with my plan, or blow all my savings while humanity still exists.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:23 | 5009863 espirit
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Your "savings" makes you a mark to be had.

Reality is a bitch, Bitchez.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:50 | 5009795 Urban Redneck
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You haven't heard... Africa is coming to Washington DC next month... to meet with Barry and his entire entourage, and there will be plenty of Banksters there too, particularly the WBG/IMF type...

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/world-report/2014/06/09/obamas-us-af...

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:46 | 5009630 Winston Churchill
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Its very hard in in third world countries, to take those precautions 100% of the time

with sanitary diseases.I thought I was being very careful when I was the far east.

After getting dysentary twice, and hepatitis once, despite taking great care, I reealised

I was just fighting a losing battle by being there.

In a SHTF situation here, rioting, looting, and civil war, will not be the major killer.

Typhus,cholera and dysentry will be.

Ebola, and plague are just icing on mother natures cake.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:47 | 5009904 Urban Redneck
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Also, the doctor mentioned above is only the first of TWO Samaritan's Purse volunteers currently fighting ebola.

But that's still not as bad the facility where 89% of the nursing staff has already died.

and I'm not even done catching up on today's news this evening, which all seems to turn yesterday's tinfoil hat rumors into today's hazmat suit realities...

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:18 | 5009710 Make_Mine_A_Double
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Zyithromycin - never go to the 3rd world without it. Has saved me in Burma, Cambodia, Laos, etc.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:37 | 5010049 XenoFrog
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An anti-biotic won't protect you from a virus.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 23:37 | 5021129 InjectTheVenom
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how 'bout a hashtag ?      ;>)

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:20 | 5009999 New_Meat
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Winnie:

"In a SHTF situation here, rioting, looting, and civil war, will not be the major killer.  Typhus,cholera and dysentry will be."

'twere ever so, even in the War of Northern Aggression, more casualties from disease than from lead.

- Ned

{memo to self: moar bleach}

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:57 | 5009659 Things that go bump
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Probably a needle stick. 

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:25 | 5009731 lakecity55
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.....from an "intelligence agency."

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:44 | 5009903 blunderdog
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For what it's worth, Cooter, no matter how well informed you are, accidents happen. 

Needle-stick injuries, for example, are common among medical professionals simply because they work with a ton of needles, not because they don't know to avoid them.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:15 | 5009982 Kirk2NCC1701
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When a trained professional eventually slips up, or someone near him does, it reaffirms Murhphy's Laws 1 and 2:

1. If thing can go wrong...

2. And at the worst possible time.

As fallible beings, eventually routine makes us complacent, and simultaneous presence of high risk means that we will have rolled that dice so often, that eventually our number comes up.

Therefore, as other ZHers have pointed out:  When dealing with a disease with a 90% mortality rate, you isolate and humanely eliminate said pathogen and its human carrier.  All else is BS, vanity, hubris and delusion.  And these four traits are not exactly life-enhancing virtues or success strategies.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:09 | 5009685 TeamDepends
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Double shamWOW!!! We were aware of the 11:11 phenomenon but decided to search-engine (ask.com) it anyway. The top hit was "Watch Hell's Gate 11:11"! Apparently this was a movie that came out in 2004. We just freaked out real good! Nothing a piping hot MRE won't fix, however.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:17 | 5009698 DIgnified
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Festival

 

See the "Religious Festivities" section specifically.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:53 | 5009799 Herd Redirectio...
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I will tell you I have noticed 11:11 on clocks for YEARS, and the gates of hell have yet to open as a consequence. 

Of course, the number itself is not good or evil.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:10 | 5009688 Abitdodgie
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"the gates of Hades" the IPhone zombies will love that.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:13 | 5009696 Freddie
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Aren't Soros and Bill Gates groups involved in the medical lab?   Are they saving people or creating viruses. 

The elites and China want to get hold of Africa's mineral and other riches.  Killing 100 million Africans means nothing to these people.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:24 | 5009728 lakecity55
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Killing 200 million Americans won't bother them either.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:29 | 5009737 Cathartes Aura
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why yes, they are.  with billions of $$ support from Uncle Warren. . .

tithing to their "higher ups".

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 17:06 | 5010456 Kirk2NCC1701
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Don't worry.  Larry Ellis bought a whole island in the Hawaiian chains, where he owns 98% of the land.

Many Elite of TPTB will be safe there.  ON Diego Garcia and similar places also, no doubt.  It's a small club and we're not in it.  And it's a decent location and size of an island, and we're not on it.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:24 | 5009726 lakecity55
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That is actually a refernce to Ramadan, but, maybe somebody hijacked the date.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 13:41 | 5009894 piratepiet
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11 is my lucky number, what is wrong with 11 ?

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 21:11 | 5011151 markpower49
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US doctors in Africa suffer from pathological altruism. I hope they don't allow those nitwits back to the US. Africa cannot be saved. It's filled with Africans.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:16 | 5009559 toady
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Sounds like everything's under control.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:37 | 5009604 max2205
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Everything will be fine once the UN IMF and WHO show up.......

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:41 | 5009616 kaiserhoff
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That should not be funny, but it's tragic, comic, and totally FUBARED.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:47 | 5009635 Son of Loki
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I hate quack Witch Doctors who practice w/o a license. My Witch Doctor is good but she's damn expensive and worth every penny:

 

http://38.media.tumblr.com/1a6abca96b9a1216eaf1ab134efca6df/tumblr_miauv...

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:09 | 5009663 Things that go bump
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So, are you the Midgard serpent or Fenrir?

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 17:08 | 5010462 Kirk2NCC1701
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Judging by her accessories, I'd say she's a Bitch Doctor.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 19:53 | 5010934 Things that go bump
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Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:22 | 5009571 LetThemEatRand
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"Assistant Inspector General Alfred Karrow-Kamara said on Saturday the protest was sparked by a former nurse who had told a crowd at a nearby fish market that 'Ebola was unreal and a gimmick aimed at carrying out cannibalistic rituals.'"

Alex:  "I'm sorry, former nurse, the correct question was 'what is a Central Bank meeting.'  That is the gimmick aimed at carrying out cannibalistic rituals.  Dr. Brantly still has the board.  Dr. Brantly?"

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:26 | 5009581 Urban Redneck
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If the disease makes it to the US, there are several hundred million private firearms whose owners distrust the DHS and/or DHHS at least as much as the average person in Sierra Leone.

It will not be pretty.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:29 | 5009586 Headbanger
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But like a good neighbor... FEMA is there , right?

 

/sarc

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:42 | 5009621 kaiserhoff
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They gots your back.   Hey wait.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:41 | 5009769 Colonel Klink
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Yes, but both hands are on your shoulders.  You figure out the rest.  Much like government, it'll only hurt for a few minutes before you get use to it.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:21 | 5009719 lakecity55
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"Once it escaped from Africa, the Obamabola virus spread rapidly through Europe and America. As first responders died, the dead piled up; the sky was darkened with burning bodies, which only served to carry the virus yet again. Those who were not killed by the virus often fell victim to gunfire as desperate families sought to protect themselves. Face masks and gas masks were the most valuable commodity as Death began to spread.

"It was almost as if Satan had invented Obamabola.

I am Rod Serling. And this is......The Twilight Zone."

 

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:35 | 5009754 DaddyO
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+1 for the Rod Serling reference!

We are in the TWILIGHT ZONE...

Reality is stranger than fiction.

DaddyO

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:25 | 5010013 New_Meat
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It has to be.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:29 | 5009739 Bad Attitude
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Urban: "If the disease makes it to the US..." Not if, but when. And, then when will FEDGOV actually admit that it is here.

On the other hand, this is a great distraction from Dear Leader's innumerable scandals: illegal immigrant "children," VA scandal, IRS scandal, Obamacare implosion, NSA spying scandal, Benghazi, Fast & Furious,  and several I don't remember at the moment.

Forward (over the cliff)!

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:22 | 5009573 Seek_Truth
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Doctors and nurses in full protective gear getting infected?

Looking more and more like Ebola has become aerosolized.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:51 | 5009594 Headbanger
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Yeah.  Let's put our nukes to good use and Irradiate everything there fast!

 

Anybody know if ozone kills viruses too?

How about intense UV?

 

I know!  I know!

Let's put all the ebola infected people on a Malaysian Air flight and re-route it over Ukraine and have it shot down so Barry can have his war to save his pitiful political ass!

 

Meanwhile... How many more shooting deaths were there in Chicago and Detroit this weekend versus ebola deaths?

Or even traffic fatalities?

Or golfers killed by stray shots???

Duhhhh..

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:59 | 5009664 Possible Impact
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The routed rays of rightious wrath
rend to rubble rioting masses.

Fighting fear, and fearsome foes
falling friends, our front line joes.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:01 | 5009669 cossack55
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OK, who are you really?  John or Lindsey.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:23 | 5010003 Headbanger
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I am the walrus!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IpP3bc4AU0

 

Go go g'joob

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 12:44 | 5009700 lakecity55
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"What does it mean, Scully?"

"This  virus has been engineered, Muldar.  I have never seen anything like it before.  The victims' organs just liquefy. I don't know where it came from."

"I do. The Marlboro Man."

 

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:24 | 5010009 Kirk2NCC1701
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And in the final episode, the Chain Smoking Bastard confirms what Mulder saw at Mount Weather:  The Alien Invasion/Takeover begins in earnest on 12/22/2012.

Given everything going on in the world, it now does not seem so sci-fi or so crazy.  Depending on whom you define as being the "Alien":  Terrestrial Alien (TA) or Extra-Terrestrial Alien (ETA).  The former are Globalist/NWO Clingon scum, the latter are ET Klingon scum.  Clingons or Klingons?

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 14:34 | 5010041 Headbanger
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I'll take door number three Monte..

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:23 | 5009576 Reaper
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Gee, what could go wrong? We have government and the compassionate teaming up, again.

Sun, 07/27/2014 - 11:28 | 5009584 Panafrican Funk...
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Pretty well written/comprehensive look at the Ebola virus:

https://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Infection_Mechanism_of_Genus_Eb...

Pretty great site in general if you want to understand the science behind any of these disease outbreaks.  One thing to keep in mind is that, if you aren't hearing anything about it stateside, that's probably the time to really pay attention to it, because we're really only going to hear about shit like swine flu and other stuff that really isn't that bad or has no real chance of seriously affecting our lives.  Ebola is no joke, and not just because of the high mortality rate or because it has the potential to go airborne.  It would also be pretty easy to weaponize if you had the right people developing it. 

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