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Operation Protective Edge entered its 22nd day on Tuesday, as Israeli ground forces continued their incursion into Gaza following the government rejection of a cease-fire draft proposed by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry over the weekend. Earlier in the evening, Haaretz reports the Israeli Air Force struck Hamas chief Ismail Haniyeh's home in Gaza and then Reuters notes that Hamas said that its broadcast outlets, Al-Aqsa TV and Al-Aqsa Radio were also targeted. The television station continued to broadcast, but the radio station went silent.

 

 

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Operation Protective Edge by the numbers....

 

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Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:31 | 5015777 NidStyles
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Can't let the subhumans have a voice after all.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:36 | 5015814 Deathrips
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Fucking Psychopaths, Using Human Sacrifices from all sides to please the tribe.

Fuck these idiot fucks. Let them all burn in hell.

 

 

All Religion and nationalism aside...there are some seriously fucked up people out there.

Are these role models? WTF>

 

Long Lead...

 

RIPS

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:37 | 5015817 Publicus
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War crime right here.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:39 | 5015832 Newsboy
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Check out "The Hannibal Directive"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-murders-idf-soldier-to-prevent-his-c...

Can you say "I'm Pat Fucking Tillman"?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:42 | 5015849 CrazyCooter
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War crimes are for those "below the line" ... speaking of which ... you kind of look suspicious ...

Regards,

Cooter

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:45 | 5015861 john39
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Latest from gilad atzmon. Nails israel, again:

 

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/28/jeffrey-goldberg-and-the-israeli...

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:27 | 5016267 Drunk In Church
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I would personally like to thank Israel for standing up against the Muslim horde.  No other country has the balls to do it. Bitchez.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 01:54 | 5016485 fervent in spirit
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Elvis the Pelvis - or whatever your current incarnation happens to be - there is a big difference between standing up to the "muslim hordes" and stirring them up.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 01:59 | 5016495 balolalo
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Yup, it's all about those tunnels.   Ha! 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 07:07 | 5016854 trigasux
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It puzzles me why there is both commercial trade of goods via those tunnels and I suspect a much more minor combat logistics purpose. What's the rationale behind the embargo of Palestine? Those people are dealt a shit hand. Hope some of them will be able to break out of that ghetto and become Rocky. 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 09:05 | 5017147 BigJim
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Are you kidding me? The 'rationale' is that they will use the tunnels to ferry in materiel that can be used to slow the ever-encroaching zionists.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 07:18 | 5016875 petolo
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Our tunnels are bigger than your tunnels.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:25 | 5016684 MeelionDollerBogus
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Your blog is shit.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 14:58 | 5018956 my_nym
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That's the thing about the Tribe Inc. and tribalism.  Sometimes you're the individual that winds up being sacrificed or offered as a "holocaust" for the sake of the egregore.

Curious that people who consider themselves members of the tribe claim to follow Abraham.  Didn't he, by faith, reject the idea of human sacrifice or making a burnt offering?  Although there is the whole thing with blood rituals and cutting off part of your penis to represent membership in the tribe.  Too bad we had to wait for a former Talmudic terrorist like the apostle Paul to try to do away with that, fighting Jews and "Judeo Christians" on it all the way.  Although most people in the Judaized West still decide to cut off part of their penis anyway, to keep things kosher.  That's how abysmally stupid and ignorant people are when it comes to Judaism to this day.

 

World Zionist Youth Leader Demands ‘More than 300 Palestinian Foreskins’
Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:41 | 5015846 Deathrips
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War crime is locking defenseless people in a cage and hitting them with Phosphorous.

Im not religious....but if there is a hell ..they (and all their dirty pussy accomplices) belong there.

 

Those are kids, and human beings.

 

RIPS

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:46 | 5015862 CrazyCooter
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I hate to be the spoiler, but there is no hell, only the shit we foist upon ourselves likes the government-bureaucrat-human centipede we have for leadership pretty much anywhere at this point ...

Or, if you like the Tijuana version, the government-burrocrat-human centipede ...

Either way ...

Regards,

Cooter

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:52 | 5015901 willwork4food
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There is no hell? U sure about that Cooter? Not talking about the TV nutcase millionaires version, but have you ever read Dante? Another thing, is that " energy cannot be created or destroyed, just changed."...who said that? Your homework for tonight.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:53 | 5015905 CrazyCooter
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Perhaps I wasn't clear, but I meant in the religious sense, or if you will, a suffering after this life has past.

I thought it was obvious since we have created quite the hell for ourselves (collectively) on Earth.

Regards,

Cooter

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:25 | 5016045 JR
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And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. -- 1 John 5:19

The activities of the IDF confirm the evidence of the wicked one. How else explain slaughtering innocent children - day after day after day - in the streets? The Israelis are doing the Devil’s work. A young Israeli soldier who pulls the trigger aimed at a child's head and his mother and his father is working for the Devil. Israel could talk with these people, work out some kind of peaceful living arrangement with the Palestinian people but they won’t. They want their land; they want them dead. The Israelis can’t think of anything else. They want their land; they want them dead. They want their land; they want them dead.

The Israelis have done nothing, nothing, to try to get along, to accommodate. They are only interested in killing. And worst of all, as Justin Raimondo said, they enjoy it.

As for the world, "all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is fhat good men do nothing."

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:29 | 5016058 Deathrips
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Jesus Fucking Christ....!!!

 

Its not about religion its about some fucktards getting innocent people to kill eachother so the fucktards can strip more resources and control from the people. ALL PEOPLE.

 

Save your recruiting speech for fucking church.

 

Just FYI this is Zero hedge....not church.

 

RIPS

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:09 | 5016193 JR
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No, this is not church. It's hell. And it’s time to deal with the subject of Israel as the self-proclaimed "chosen of God" to justify the genocide of the Palestinians because "God gave them the land" whether you can handle it or not.

Because you cannot believe the evidence of your eyes, the design, the intricacy, the orderliness of Creation, of the universe, because you believe the absurd - that the universe and life evolved out of slime - you are unable to see what is really happening. Nature itself proclaims God's existence; I think ZH can handle the debate whether you can or not.

As for the existence of evil...

Dr. Mordechai Kedar, a lecturer on Arabic literature at Bar Ilan University, believes the sisters and mothers of Palestinian “terrorists” should be raped: “A terrorist, like who kidnapped the boys [in the West Bank on June 12] and killed them, the only thing that will deter them, is if they know that either their sister or mother will be raped if they are caught.

“What can we do? This is the culture that we live in.”

His university defended the comments: “Dr. Kedar illustrated in his words the bitter reality of the Middle East and the inability of a modern and law-abiding country to fight the terror of suicide bombers.”

And now it seems the Israeli Police Foreign Press Spokesman, Micky Rosenfeld, according to the Daily Star in Lebanon, “appears to have falsified the Israeli government’s claim that Hamas was responsible for the killing of three Israeli settler teens in June, by saying responsibility lies with a lone cell that operated without the complicity of Hamas leadership.”

IOW, Rosenfeld is saying that the teen-agers were killed without any involvement of Hamas, making Netanyahu’s immediate declaration that Hamas was responsible a false statement.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 01:31 | 5016430 Deathrips
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JR,

 

You can believe you have to suffer through life to get to heaven. Thats your right. I am well versed in may religions and while I could debate that, I wont.I wont because thats not what we are talking about here. We are talking about people killing other people...i dont care what the excuse is. Which god, belief or whatever. If people are killing other people, they are killers.

Personal liberties infringement aside, no man has the right to take another mans life or steal from him. That arguement of defense doesnt fly with israel. They have been constantly marching forward on occupation for ....well since they took it. They have state of the art western defenses vs outdated rocks. Is that fair? Is life fair? I dont want one penny more of my money going to people that are killing people for profit.

The USG works for who? Not Israel..and Not Jesus, they work for the right to choose wether you want to collective up around comic heros or not. At least thats what was planned before these idiots cheered the killing and division that allowed them to use a piece of paper to control humanity. I dont care if you are on Batman or the Jokers side....cause they are real too.

Yes there are evil people, and they should be accountable...no matter which team.

You can spin that however you like in your religious pipe and smoke it.

 

 

RIPS

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 01:52 | 5016487 JR
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I agree with your conclusions regarding Israel, Deathrips. You may be interested in C.S. Lewis's view.

“My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in such a violent reaction against it?... Of course I could have given up my idea of justice by saying it was nothing but a private idea of my own. But if i did that, then my argument against God collapsed too--for the argument depended on saying the world was really unjust, not simply that it did not happen to please my fancies. Thus, in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist - in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless - I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality - namely my idea of justice - was full of sense. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never have known it was dark. Dark would be without meaning." -- C.S. Lewis

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 02:56 | 5016554 Deathrips
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I didnt junk you once...im just over all the bs. this is retarded.

 

Great quote.

 

RIPS

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 09:23 | 5017219 SamAdams
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Control what the mind knows, and you control the mind.

If you were born in a cave, and one day you were told of light, would you believe it?

Keep 'em stupid, knowledge is power.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:48 | 5019956 MeelionDollerBogus
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Light? Whut?

Us mushrooms all know the real deal. Dirt, caterpillars and hooka smoke. The ho-lee triniteee.

Wuz all this 'light' nonsense you speak of?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 02:11 | 5016509 fervent in spirit
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Deathrips...

You say, "Its not about religion..."

You could not be more wrong. You may not like religion. You may not believe there is a God. You may have all kinds of personal opinions about these subjects, but only a deliberately, self-imposed ignorance of the matter can say that what is going on in the middle east is "not about religion".

That is precisely the problem. You have two religious world-views locked in conflict and the issue will never be settled unless that is taken into consideration.

You have the Zionist/Jews claiming a favoured position in God's sight due to their ethnicity, and you have the Palestinian muslim believing they have a right to the same piece of property. Both sides use a religious basis for their claim. It is all about religion. A devilish and wicked religion, but religion all the same.

One of the great problems in dealing with the ME is that a strain of biblical interpretation called "Dispensationalism" has infiltrated the Protestant Christian church in America in the past 100 years to such an extent that it has brought about a very warped view in the minds of many church goers about Israel, the Jew, God and His plan for humanity, and how a Christian is to interact and relate to society, etc. That influence has had an incredible impact and influence on American foreign policy particularly as it relates to Israel.

Yes, my friend, "It's ALL about religion". And that makes it even sadder.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:23 | 5016681 MeelionDollerBogus
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You fell for the trick ... again???

This is about water, land & natural gas.

This is not about religion.

How could you be so dumb?

Do you also price your gold in paper and lament when the price goes DOWN? The cost to acquire real money goes down and people cry tears. Are you one of those idiots?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 10:21 | 5017494 BigJim
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It's about both. If the followers didn't adhere slavishly to their religions, the 'leaders' wouldn't be able to manipulate them.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 23:15 | 5019925 MeelionDollerBogus
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I could only believe that if non-religious people didn't also follow insane, dangerous leaders.
Since insane, dangerous leaders seems to be the call of the day around the world no matter the religion or lack of religion it seems not to be a related factor after all.
I think a combination of sheeple followers with a life under constant threat has no outcome possible except to follow leaders.
Only a few lone-wolf types with adept skills at survival & adept skills of mind not to be misled can go any other way & society never follows the lone-wolf path, by definition.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:32 | 5016293 Frostfan1
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Got anything that wasn't written 30 years ago?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:45 | 5016335 CrazyCooter
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I will raise your bar ...

Got anything that wasn't written 3000 years ago?

Regards,

Cooter

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 01:18 | 5016414 JR
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In Putin's words, Russia's Orthodox Christian faith will "prevent movement backward and downward, into chaotic darkness and a return to a primitive state." In short,  in the new war of beliefs, it is Russia that now is on God’s side. It is the West that is slouching toward Gomorrah.

“While the other super-powers march to a pagan world-view,’ writes WCF’s Allan Carlson, "Russia is defending Christian values. During the Soviet era, Western communists flocked to Moscow. This year, World Congress of Families VII will be held in Moscow, Sept. 10-12."

“A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.” -- C.S. Lewis

America was built on Christian principles. If she loses those principles, she will fail. Of the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence, nearly half (24) held seminary or Bible school degrees.

John Adams
2nd U.S. President and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God ... What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be."
--Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.

http://christianity.about.com/od/independenceday/a/foundingfathers.htm

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:31 | 5016686 medium giraffe
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John Adams was wrong.  That absurd book is nothing but a vicious hate filled tome.  How you can go on with such an attitude of pompous piety and rectitude is beyond fathomable.  Reprehensible filth.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 08:34 | 5017026 Boxed Merlot
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That absurd book is nothing but a vicious hate filled tome...

 

 

That "absurd book" is nothing short of the most comprehensive collection of literary material responsible for the development of human language, communication and recordation spanning the greatest length of time of logically deductive reasoning mankind in existence.  Even if it were not "true" it's historical importance alone in revealing the basis of so many countries foundational constructs makes even an atheistic desire to remain biblically illiterate absurd.

After many years of exposure to it, I might describe it as many things, but "a vicious hate filled tome" would not be one of them.  I've seen vicious hate filled tomes, and it ain't it.

 

jmo.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 10:42 | 5017570 BigJim
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Sorry, the Christian Bible, with its incorporation of the sturm-und-drang Old Testament, is so open to interpretation as to be capable of being used to justify pretty much anything.

Someone hurts you? Turn the other cheek! Or maybe not.. maybe an 'eye-for-an-eye' is the correct response. If the Bible is your go-to source of law and lore, then you are dependent on exegesis from full-time scholars, many of whom vehemently disagree with each other.

Just go by the New Testament? Didn't Christ say he came to complete the prophets, not replace them?

Whatever Christ's original message, it was delivered to Judaists and interpreted by them. And if you think the Christian Bible is the literal Word of God, after all the decisions made long after Christ's passing in the early Christian era to determine what should be included, and what shouldn't, then you are relying on the belief that those early church leaders were (for some reason) more infallible or any less likely to be corrupt than modern ones like these:

http://hatethechristiannotchrist.com/christians-be-cautious-list-of-disg...

There's a lot of good in Christianity. But despite the New Testament's love-thy-neighbour message, history shows it's no less likely to be used to excuse murder, robbery and rapine than the Koran or Torah.

Even the Buddhists in Sri Lanka somehow found justification for their war crimes against the Tamils.

There are Christian pastors in the US army for fuck's sake, back in Viet Nam, Iraq, in Afghanistan.... Are they preaching Christ's word of love-thy-neighbour, and turn-the-other-cheek to these voluntary invaders and despoilers? No, they're giving comfort to serial killers.

For the record, I think most of what Christ said was pretty cool. Not as enlightened as the Buddha, but pretty jaw-dropping for a man brought up inculcated with racial-supremacist Judaism. But when I look around the US, which is supposedly 3/4 Christian, I don't see a lot of people behaving anything like Christ, I see them behaving more like Christians. ie, little better than anyone else.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 11:53 | 5018010 Boxed Merlot
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if you think the Christian Bible is the literal Word of God… then you are relying on the belief that those early church leaders were (for some reason) more infallible…

 

For the record, either someone / something is found to be infallible or he / she / it isn’t.  Kinda like being  pregnant.

 

And whether one believes the “Christian” Bible to be taken “literally”, I would ask, what other way is there to take it?   It either is or it isn’t.  My understanding as to which Hebrew / Aramaic writings would be used as “canonical” books to be included with subsequent Greek language letters, records and literature attributed to contemporaries of Jesus were arrived at as a result of efforts made by some people in the first century set on cutting out certain portions of these writings in order to advance personal agendas.

So even the history behind the choosing of which writings were to be considered to be authentic is fascinating and worthy of study as it bears a great deal of resemblance of what we encounter to this day, i.e. ZH articles, comments and satire and how to ferret out truth.

 

 

I think most of what Christ said was pretty cool. Not as enlightened as the Buddha,…

 

I can understand this sentiment but since the only thing we know about Jesus is what others said He said, as Jesus himself supposedly only wrote in the dirt while rescuing a condemned woman from a group of hypocritical leaders, (if their record is to believed), it was his decision to allow himself to be put to death for the “crime” of claiming to be God that sets him apart. (Again, if the record is to be believed.)  Well that, and the accounts of his resurrection.

 

Jmo.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:42 | 5019913 MeelionDollerBogus
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wait, so we ain't no blessed bee for fallowin' the path of the lard?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:23 | 5016680 Divine
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The atoms in your body will be nicely distributed around the globe. Just read an article about a study, which suggested that in 300 years there will be an atom from you in every living land creature. Im still not sure if all our personality can be transferred up the food pyramid after the worms have consumed our bodies. 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 15:07 | 5019007 my_nym
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I don't know.  There's the mystery of consciousness.  There's the multiverse and the fact that the elites of the world have always been into a hidden or occulted dimension to things in the heavens. Just more charlatans?  Perhaps.  But the fact that they are the ruling class and do wind up with fame and riches seems real enough, even here and now in the dimensions of reality that "the base" are conscious of.

 

There is the whole problem with charlatanism and lies, I guess.  Once that process begins, people might even wind up believing "order out of chaos" creation myths in which their brains and geometric forms of consciousness have emerged from an absolute void of.... nothing but nothing/chance, an effect without a cause.  Therefore karma doesn't exist, etc.

 

Personally, I wouldn't bet on chance or a void of nothing just because charlatans are legion.     

 

 

 

 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:36 | 5019894 MeelionDollerBogus
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What is this void mythology?

Is that Norse or perhaps one of the Native American cultures' creation stories?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:48 | 5015878 willwork4food
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They will get their chance, religious or not.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:30 | 5016287 Carpenter1
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When you're warned repeatedly to leave by your enemy, who has the capability to turn your town to dust, you need to leave. If you don't,  your blood is on your own hands for being stupid and stubborn. 

Thousands of palestinians left and are safe, the ones remaining are there because they want to be. 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:09 | 5016664 The.Harmless.Jew
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When you're warned repeatedly to leave by your enemy, who has the capability to turn your town to dust, you need to leave. If you don't,  your blood is on your own hands for being stupid and stubborn.

 

That's just crazy talk (probably from a guy who has a blow up doll of Nuttinyahoo in his basement). 

 

Carpenter, by your rationale, will you be warned to leave Zero Hedge, because the best of its posters can turn you into dust. 

 

In other words, kindly fuck off and go to a pro-hasbara-partheid-ethnic-cleansing-loving-site, because you're being turned into dust here. Asshole.

 

 

 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:21 | 5016678 MeelionDollerBogus
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You fucking idiot: there's fences & machine guns aimed at all the places they can GO TO by leaving.

That means to stay is to die and to leave is to die.

You are a coward who would gladly see Israel invade your country and rape your own children.

IDF genocide soldiers: it is the duty of every human on Earth to kill them.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 10:55 | 5017677 BigJim
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He's a zionist. That means 'Jews' are entitled to own Palestine. If they're entitled to own it, that means they're also entitled to slaughter anyone - man, woman or child - who gets in their way. Because those men, women and children are impinging on their rights! So the aggression is really theirs!

Of course, unless you're an outright sociopath, then to maintain this attitude you have to demonise and 'animalise' the people you're dispossessing, and make excuses that put the blame for their death onto them. Particularly if you are reliant on funds, weapons, and diplomatic cover from other countries to do this. And this is exactly what we see in the Hasbara who spew their hatred on comments boards around the world, a legion of professional (and volunteer) propagandists who believe in the righteousness of their cause as much as any brainwashed nazi believed in the righteousness of theirs.

And because their cause is just, and God is on their side, any lie will do; after all, you're only telling lies to get the acceptance of the Goyim who are already too couched in lies to see the truth of zionist entitlement.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:47 | 5015873 Rootin' for Putin
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War crimes are like racism, it only applies at certain times, to certain people, for certain reasons and never if its reversed.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 03:47 | 5016633 barre-de-rire
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war crime... as if a war could be done without any crime. killing someone is a crime, whatever the uniform or the skin color or the religion.

 

total bs... rocket or phosphore or darts or nuke, all weaponry is a crime.

 

" crime war "is a novlang to tell the enemy is worst than yourself.  on a war, no side is better than the other, they're both idiot to shoot each other.

those who wrote the rules for the war...  just lol... you seriously there is rules in a war...? ask usa for the last 70 years if there is rules especially over civilian when they need acces to position or ressources, then come back to me...

 

ffs...

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:41 | 5015834 COSMOS
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If the Israelis cant buy up the media channels, they will just blow them up.  By the way does anyone know how anything more about Rupert's mergers and acquisitions or Sumner Redstone's, or Robertson family of Comcast, or those of the Lauder family holdings in European Broadcast Media via CME corporation?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:41 | 5015845 NidStyles
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I thought the deal was off with the Ruperts. 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:44 | 5015856 COSMOS
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Not quite last I read he was offloading some holdings in Italy and Germany that are being bought up by BSkyB of which he owns 40% lol, talk about passing from one hand to another, to generate some more cash.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:40 | 5015836 NidStyles
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Keep your ammo dry, and your knife oiled.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 01:05 | 5016389 DarthVaderMentor
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and your weapons cleaned and zeroed in......

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:54 | 5015912 eatapeach
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This one:

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/05/palestinians-occupied-territories.html

that killed two Palestinian teens in cold blood on May 15.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:37 | 5015815 Publicus
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Tue, 07/29/2014 - 10:37 | 5017574 AgDc
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They already have Obomba and Kerry, and the Jew haters on ZH.  What more do you need?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:31 | 5015778 Haywood Jablowme
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Let's do this biatches!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:37 | 5015786 DoChenRollingBearing
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A new Middle East thread!

Let's see:

-- AK (or AR), check!

-- At least 10 loaded magazines, check!  (handgun & magazines, optional)

-- Level Three body armor, check!

-- Junker repellent, check!

-- Crap-repellent boots, check!

-- Shrapnel grenades (if you're feeling extra-mean), check!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:50 | 5015885 CrazyCooter
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I don't mind shooting a perp or criminal, but if it really comes to that you better be "field of planted grains - check" or just the passing of time will consume you.

Humanity so depends on the rest of humanity for it's existance, which is new at this juncture in history. This is going to be a rough ride ...

Regards,

Cooter

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:26 | 5016266 DoChenRollingBearing
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... I was writing about being prepped for a MidEast thread...

:)   :P

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:46 | 5016339 CrazyCooter
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That was very tactical sarcasm DCRB ... I never saw it coming!

Regards,

Cooter

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 02:21 | 5016523 DoChenRollingBearing
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Back at you!  Enjoy the season!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:33 | 5015790 TeamDepends
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The Zionist Broadcasting Company begs to differ, claiming it is merely a "flesh wound".

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:32 | 5015791 Seize Mars
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Oh, there is no way this can backfire. No way at all.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:47 | 5016157 Quus Ant
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It fucking better backfire.  Cast Lead.  Pillar of Defense. Protective Edge.  How much can a people be expected to take.

On the positive side I went to a demo this weekend- three old Zionists vs 400 pro-palestinians of all ages, races, creeds.  It's clear Zion's days are numbered, but can the Palestinians hold out for the hundredth monkey.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:21 | 5016679 The.Harmless.Jew
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On the positive side I went to a demo this weekend- three old Zionists vs 400 pro-palestinians of all ages, races, creeds.  It's clear Zion's days are numbered, but can the Palestinians hold out for the hundredth monkey.

 

Quus Ant,

 

I admire your stance and repsect your position, but sadly, some if not, many of the 400 are simply wasting their time. 

 

Why you ask?

 

Well, firstly, let me state that they've committed their emotional time and energy to the cause, which I admire, for it is a righteous cause.  However, when the march ends, where do they stop for coffee? Starbucks? 

 

Where do they go shopping - Marks and Spencer or Britsh Home Stores (owned by Zionist Philip Green)? When they arrive at home, which tv channels do they tune into - Murdoch's?

 

You see the problem, and what I'm getting at?

 

The Palestinians might receive the good people's time and emotions, but the Zionists just keep on collecting the good people's money  - money that is funnelled to the child-killing IDF, and media moguls.

 

Direct Action is needed; and it isn't simply a case of boycotts etc...

 

No, anti-zionists need to set up their own coffee shops, their own HONEST forms of commerce.  Boycott the Zionist industries (including all Fed Reserve actions) then becomes more effective, and you'll see the central bankers, the media companies, and other zionist entities starved of the tools they need to subjugate man-kind.  

 

Remember, without masses of people, these Zionist entites are nothing, and cannot survive.  How can the Fed survive if it is shunned for example. 

 

 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:32 | 5015796 LetThemEatRand
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There were terr'ists under the radio tower.  Once again, Hamas is using radio towers as shields.   

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:34 | 5015802 kowalli
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Sanctions for Israel or USA for this?no?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:41 | 5015842 FieldingMellish
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Yes... I'm pretty sure the US is sanctioning these actions... wait, was that not what you asked?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:41 | 5015847 Infinite QE
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More US taxpayer money hard at work

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:44 | 5015857 One And Only
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Hamas uses Palestinian women and children the same way Obama uses South American women and children. 

Political effect.

Sick.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:50 | 5015889 john39
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Sure man.  Israel has no choice but to slaughter men women and childen, bomb schools and hospitals... has nothing to do with ritual blood sacrafice or genocide. Purely self defense.  You know, just last week some gang banger looked at me funny.  Just to be safe, I blew up the entire city block.  Because I had to defend myself. 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:51 | 5015894 Seize Mars
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Seriously, how much absolute fucking holy hell can you expect to rain down on people...and think there won't be blowback later?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:52 | 5015898 One And Only
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So Hamas is not firing missles at Israel?

Is that what you're saying?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:00 | 5015937 i_call_you_my_base
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Let's just be clear on these "missiles": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:03 | 5015948 One And Only
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So what you're saying is that missles are not being fired at Israel.

Is that what you're saying?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:06 | 5015959 i_call_you_my_base
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No actually, they are rockets, not missiles, and they never hit shit. I'm not saying it's acceptable, but the asymmetry is pretty severe.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:12 | 5015988 One And Only
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I guess the lesson is....don't fire rockets at your neighbor when they have missiles.

Is that what you're saying?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:12 | 5015992 i_call_you_my_base
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Yes, I'm sure it was those hundreds of women and children who fired them.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:16 | 5016006 One And Only
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/27/Report-Hamas-Used-Child-La...

Who was making the women and children dig the tunnels? Who was hiding rockets in schools and hospitals?

If you use women and children as human shields don't cry when they get killed in war.

 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:22 | 5016030 i_call_you_my_base
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So every woman and child killed is becuase of that? They have hundrends of women and children all around their rockets, at hundreds of sites? Every fucking time, day and night? And that's the extent of the collateral damage? You realize you are simply justifying this and parroting the party line, right?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:29 | 5016052 One And Only
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Hamas firing rockets at Israel during the many cease fires is parroting enough for me.

Hiding weapons in schools and hospitals and using children to dig tunnels to smuggle weapons is vile and disgusting. But that's what Hamas does.

I refuse to support that type of warfare. I deplore it.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:38 | 5016091 i_call_you_my_base
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So you're answer is, they made us do it?

Human suffering aside, I'm sure it'll all work out. It's a rock solid strategy. Kill the women and children of the people who hate you and are on your doorstep.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 11:20 | 5017818 ShorTed
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Whatever you may think of the Jews, the Palestinians voted for Hamas.  They knew what Hamas stood for in the election and they haven't done a damn thing to reel them in.  I just don't see how you can ask for trouble and then cry about it when it comes.

I don't celebrate the death/injury of any Jews or Palestinians.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:09 | 5019809 MeelionDollerBogus
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Reel them in??
Israel needs reeling in. Hamas hasn't gone far enough to defend the land & the people. 100000x more military backlash would be justified on the part of Hamas to defend the land of Palestine from the foreign invader who claims, falsely, a "nation" of Israel. It's no more legitimate than if your house was bulldozed, your family  murdered & a nation "declared" on that land.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:03 | 5019781 MeelionDollerBogus
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Do you admit, or deny, that all the doorsteps are property of Palestine?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:42 | 5016101 DaveyJones
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are weapons the only thing they are smuggling?

Does the state of Israel not deliberately take most of their resources and also dramatically restrict vital, life and death resources that come into the barbed area? Water is pretty vital, no? Medications? and on and on and on...

Intentionally creating desperate people, and this is intentional, makes you very much responsible for desperate reactions. Do not think for one minue that the sixth most sophisticated army in the world knows what reactions its producing. The US pulls the same shit and the world knows it. Their con game is finally coming to an end. They can not control the internet, the world is waking up and the political pressure is growing on the US.    

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 11:13 | 5017771 BigJim
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Actually, you lying propagandist, Israel maintains a crippling blockade on Gaza regardless of whether Hamas observes the various ceasefires, which are as often as not broken by Israel.

As blockades are technically an act of war, then yes, Hamas ARE entitled to fire rockets at the state that is acting as an illegal occupier. And that's just looking at it through the absurd lens of legality.

Gaza is one of the most densely populated areas on earth. It is impossible to drop a 500 or 1000 lb bomb without killing civilians, regardless of whether they are being used as 'shields' or not.

And now that Iron Dome - financed by Israel's bitch Washington DC and the sheeplike American taxpayer - seems to be stopping virtually all of the Palestinians' pathetic rockets, these can't even be counted as a serious provocation any more.

If we're genuinely concerned with the inaccuracy of Hamas' home-made weapons, we should be supplying them with accurate, guided munitions which I'm sure they'd much rather use to strike directly at the IDF.

Israel's blockade is the very reason the Palestinians can only fire inaccurate weapons that risk killing Israeli 'civilians' - virtually all of who are, have been, or will be in the IDF via conscription, by the way.

So fuck off, Hasbara, you lying racist cunt.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:19 | 5016676 MeelionDollerBogus
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what neighbor?

I only see terrorists with IDF uniforms, invading a sovereign nation of Palestine and pretending it is another country.

There is no Israel. Only Palestine.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 14:20 | 5018746 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Exactly why the death of children to the cause is political, sick, and a tool of Hamas, thereby not really wrong from their view point but a cry of propaganda.

May Allah grant these children happiness, since neither Hamas or the IDF cares about them.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 05:11 | 5016722 The.Harmless.Jew
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So what you're saying is that missles are not being fired at Israel.

 

 

Hey, Hasbara:  Stop trying to twist the LARGER truth here as if the clock started running five minutes ago. 

 

Israel is an occupying invading blockading power.   

 

Occupation, Invasions, and Blockades are against International Law and are considered War Crimes.

 

The so-called "missiles" fired back at Israel - which let's not forget is the Occupying, Invading, and Blockading entity -  are a ligit response to Israels' Aggression and vile Occupation.

 

Let me break it down for you son, If I came to your home and started murdering your family, and stealing your belongings and then finally taking over your home and yard, you'd be firing missles in my direction too. The trouble with you is that either you're confused as to who is doing the murdering and stealing land ( so let me give you a hint: It's the Zionists!) - or you are a member of a sick tribe (The Zionists), that backs murder, rape, land grab and child-killing.

 

This might sit uncomfortably with you, and with others getting their media dose from the Zionist Controlled media outlets, but the facts are simple:

 

Israel are an invading, occupying, blockading entity, and Palestine (through Hamas) is a resistance movement that's fighting back. 

 

Fighting against Invasions, Occupations, and Blockades - which in case you've forgotten, are All AGAINST International Laws, and are War Crimes.

 

Hope that clears things up for ya.  Have a nice day.

 

 

 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:33 | 5016066 Oldwood
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As per your link these rockets are deemed illegal and as the Palestinians admit to aiming them at civilians they are in violation of international law. The worst part of this is that they know they are effective only at motivating Israel to attack. No different than prompting children to throw stones in hopes of motivating soldiers to respond with force. All for public consumption.....your consumption. Dead children always sell. Israel has tried giving autonomy which only brought them suicide bombings and attacks. They have tried blockaids and isolation and got rockets and condemnation for their response. They may well have to resort to all out war and domination as they have long lost the PR war. The longer we encourage Palestinian attacks this situation will only get worse and anyone who thinks they can marginalize or otherwise browbeat Israel into a suicidal surrender is as deluded as any keynesian or socialist. I don't care about Israel. Just looking at things as they are rather than pursuing some concept of justice that will lead us to a massive world war killing millions. Israel will not lay down and can only be defeated by an allied miltary force of significant size. All for a people that will still hate our guts....no matter what. If we can't be used to facilitate their goals, we useless. We should but out

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:35 | 5016081 LetThemEatRand
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"We should but out"

Amen, brother.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:45 | 5016122 i_call_you_my_base
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Deemed illegal by who? How many nukes does the US have aimed at civilians?

I don't care much either. The reaction of Israel is just dumb. The Palestinians and their rockets are no real threat. You even admit that it's pointless and ineffective.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:59 | 5016161 Oldwood
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Pointless so why do it? You know why just like i do. Its not regular Palestinians firing these indescriminate rockets, its hamas. they admit it. they admit they do it to goad Israel into targeting innocent civilians. What is more cowardly than that? Knowing you are going to kill far more of your own people than your enemy....simply for the PR sympathy and resultant money...lots of money....most of which the Palestinians never see. 

 

This is the nature of asymetric war. The difference is that typical war is carried out to eliminate the will of your enemy to fight. Hamas has never sought anything less than the complete elimination of Israel, not their surrender or subservience. 

As far as weapon legality, read your own link

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:18 | 5016675 MeelionDollerBogus
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The day Hamas refuses to fire a rocket is the day before every IDF soldier murders every Palestinian on Earth.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 06:24 | 5016801 o2sd
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Ummmm ... Hamas is Lebanese, so it doesn't really matter to them how many Palestinians are killed.

Looking at the awesome chart in the article however, from an admittedly small sample size, I calculated that there is a negative correlation of -.32 of Palestinian deaths to rockets fired into Israel. Covariance is -486. That is a pretty compellling justification for the continued slaughter of the Palestinians. Note that roughly one Palestinian has died for every two projectiles fired into Israel.

This is a war, with force multiplier asymmetries, but a war none the less. Wars only end when one side surrenders.

 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 11:16 | 5017796 BigJim
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 Ummmm ... Hamas is Lebanese, so it doesn't really matter to them how many Palestinians are killed.

No, that's Hezbullah. How would Hamas have been elected by the Palestinains if they were Lebanese?

That alone should suggest to you that you are clueless, and need to do some research before commenting.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:46 | 5020731 o2sd
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No, that's Hezbullah. How would Hamas have been elected by the Palestinains if they were Lebanese?

Technically, the origins of Hamas are the Egyptian Brotherhood, but OK.

That alone should suggest to you that you are clueless, and need to do some research before commenting.

Do you want informed debate or Fight Club? Usually when I post well researched informed comments I get crickets, but usually I avoid irrelevant subjects like this one.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:57 | 5019753 MeelionDollerBogus
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No, Hezbollah is Lebanese. Hamas is Palestinian.

The war ends when Israel is removed forever, or when they genocide every Palestinian.

Surrender doesn't end wars, it invites mass murder.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:48 | 5020741 o2sd
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Surrender doesn't end wars, it invites mass murder.

Right. I forgot that the US slaughtered every Japanese and German citizen after they signed their respective surrenders.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:56 | 5020998 MeelionDollerBogus
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Lots of them, they did, but not every last one for one reason: America wanted slaves. Trans-khazar anti-semites posing as Jews and invading Palestine don't want slaves - they want water, land & total domination. It is the only will of those invading bastards to murder every last child they can. And they have never let up when resistance was zero. They run them down in the street over and over, old people, children, for fun. Back and forth, roll the car over their faces, their chests, their legs, flattening them onto the road.

They are demon-evil.

Israeli Settlers and IDF soldiers are like child-molesting mass-murderers fed methamphetamine daily.

They are perhaps the most demon-evil ever to exist. 1 of them is as evil as 10 Nazis.

Thu, 08/07/2014 - 22:15 | 5062854 o2sd
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LOL, I've been trolled.

 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:46 | 5016134 DaveyJones
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"All for a people that will still hate our guts....no matter what"

I see the propaganda has worked well

Once again, why don;t you take on the IDF generals son, point by point, historical fact by historical fact. I am sure you have more experience on the strip and in the army than him

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6W7SktTThw

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:28 | 5016264 Oldwood
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At this late date I do not think we have any friends in that part of the world or likely any other for that matter. I'm no sage on middle east or Palestinian matters other than to observe endless killing accomplishing nothing. If violence against Israel stopped, I believe, Israel would have no choice, given international pressures to abandon their more aggressive tendencies.

But who the fuck knows. We just know it ain't working now and Israel is not going to just evaporate. It is easily argued that they have abused and bullied there way into a Jewish State. Israel is a technologically advanced society and most of their neighbors are not. This is the way it has always worked. Less advanced states do not survive when put against more advanced ones. The muslim faith does not embrace any type of progressivism, techno or otherwise. They will resist but will only win if WE destroy ourselves.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 10:59 | 5016731 The.Harmless.Jew
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Oldwood = Dead-wood = Dead-dick.

 

I mean seriously, I've seen more worth in various hasbara comments. At least they have some principles - as wrong, misguided and twisted as they are.

 

You on the other hand... Your'e just a pathetic excuse for a human being.  Every single post of yours is nothing but anti-truths and sick twisted outright lies. 

 

You must lead a pathetic existence (small penis perhaps? impotence? pathelogical liars tend to have problems there).

 

Like i said, Oldwood = dead-wood = dead dick.

 

Have a nice day!

 

 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 11:27 | 5017843 BigJim
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 I'm no sage on middle east or Palestinian matters other than to observe endless killing accomplishing nothing. If violence against Israel stopped, I believe, Israel would have no choice, given international pressures to abandon their more aggressive tendencies.

'Oldwood' indeed. Listen, moron, even a few hour's research on this subject would illustrate that since the birth of Israel in 1948, the zionists have been gradually grabbing Palestinian land, regardless of whether the Palestinians violently resist or not. Zionism was in the works for at least a century before the founding of Israel (the British ambassador reported that the Rothschilds were attempting to buy Palestine off the Ottoman Sultan... back in 1827) and they are patient in a way that an addled fuckwit like you clearly cannot comprehend. But here's a quote from their bible (Deuteronomy) to illustrate their thinking on the subject; it's their God telling them how to go about stealing 'their' land from the actual rightful owners:

Little by little he will drive out these nations as you advance. You will not be able to destroy them all at once, for, if you did, the number of wild animals would increase and be a threat to you. 23 The Lord will put your enemies in your power and make them panic until they are destroyed. 24 He will put their kings in your power. You will kill them, and they will be forgotten. No one will be able to stop you; you will destroy everyone.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 12:16 | 5018124 Oldwood
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It must be wonderful to be so absolutely fucking full of yourself that anyone who disagrees is a moron, dead dick idiot. You fellows deserve each other. While I can appreciate the contrarian nature of posters here, it says a lot about the intelligence of the debate when this is your best retort. And people such as yoursleves really do think you know it all...This is why we end up with losers like Obama running things, because asholes like this can't have a conversation without name calling and hostility. Is your argument so weak, so lame that this is all you have? Did anything I wrote in anyway disparage you?

A nice ayrian brotherhood feel to things. Ensconce yourself into a tight knit compound of like thinking buds, sit around drinking beer calculating your revenge.

Get out more, lighten up. Focus on being less of a prick, and just maybe you will find your ideas have more interest outside of your little circle jerk fan club. You make valid pints and then shit all over them with your attitude. Some of us are simply looking for solutions that don't include the mass killling of Palestinians OR Jews.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 14:33 | 5018581 BigJim
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 It must be wonderful to be so absolutely fucking full of yourself that anyone who disagrees is a moron, dead dick idiot.

You're not a moron for disagreeing with me. You're a moron for being a member of ZH, and, despite witnessing the rest of us debating this stuff, day in and day out, you STILL haven't managed to absorb any of it... or think to emerge from your sloth to actually do any research YOURSELF to see what is (or isn't) likely to be true.

But you still have the confidence to give an opinion... and then get upset when someone calls you out for your ignorance while your government is sposoring slaughter and gradual ethnic cleansing on the other side of the world.

Some of us are simply looking for solutions that don't include the mass killling of Palestinians OR Jews.

Yes, I can just see you in 1937, reading articles about the Japanese atrocities in Nanjing, saying Some of us are simply looking for solutions that don't include the mass killling of Chinese OR Japanese.

And then feeling smug about your 'impartiality'.

Your 'impartiality' is a result of ignorance, Oldwood. And your ignorance is a choice. Don't expect the rest of us to admire you for it.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:01 | 5015941 COSMOS
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So Isreal is not constantly seizing land and bulldozing homes and olive groves in the west bank?

Is that what you are saying.?

I would say if you came to my house with a bulldozer while I am in it I would be entitled to shoot you dead in the USA for attacking my castle with a deadly weapon.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:18 | 5015953 One And Only
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So you're saying Islam is older than Judaism and Jews have no right to protect that land.

Is that what you're saying?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 01:55 | 5016489 TNTARG
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Hey, "One and Only", you "chosed" guy, cut the shit. You've been eating other people's land and stuff like a pacman.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 14:14 | 5017874 BigJim
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 So you're saying Islam is older than Judaism and Jews have no right to protect that land.

Is that what you're saying?

No, you racist cunt, we're saying that when the few of your (alleged) ancestors who had any connection with some place leave it 1400 years ago, you lose any claim to it... regardless what your 'Holy' Book* might say.

*written by the beneficiaries of the tome, natch.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:41 | 5016322 Frostfan1
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If they're constantly doing it, why don't they have all the land by now?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:16 | 5016674 MeelionDollerBogus
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they DO HAVE ALL THE LAND. That's why all the fences are up & the children are being slaughered until a few short years from now every last Palestinian on Earth is eradicated.

Naziyahoo is Hitler.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 12:42 | 5018217 Oldwood
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More representation of rational thought...

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:54 | 5020987 MeelionDollerBogus
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Yes, I am indeed all the representation of rational thought. You asked for more and so I delivered.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 11:31 | 5017880 BigJim
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Here, Frostfan, this was addressed to 'Oldwood' but it will serve just as well for you:

 I'm no sage on middle east or Palestinian matters other than to observe endless killing accomplishing nothing. If violence against Israel stopped, I believe, Israel would have no choice, given international pressures to abandon their more aggressive tendencies.

'Oldwood' indeed. Listen, moron, even a few hour's research on this subject would illustrate that since the birth of Israel in 1948, the zionists have been gradually grabbing Palestinian land, regardless of whether the Palestinians violently resist or not. Zionism was in the works for at least a century before the founding of Israel (the British ambassador reported that the Rothschilds were attempting to buy Palestine off the Ottoman Sultan... back in 1827) and they are patient in a way that an addled fuckwit like you clearly cannot comprehend. But here's a quote from their bible (Deuteronomy) to illustrate their thinking on the subject; it's their God telling them how to go about stealing 'their' land from the actual rightful owners:

Little by little he will drive out these nations as you advance. You will not be able to destroy them all at once, for, if you did, the number of wild animals would increase and be a threat to you. 23 The Lord will put your enemies in your power and make them panic until they are destroyed. 24 He will put their kings in your power. You will kill them, and they will be forgotten. No one will be able to stop you; you will destroy everyone.

Now fuck off, Hasbara.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:10 | 5015964 Seize Mars
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One and Only

Keep workin' it. Maybe just by sheer repetition I will become hypnotized into believing I really owe you my tax money. And I owe you my personal data that the NSA collects and gives to you.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:18 | 5016016 One And Only
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lol.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:45 | 5016124 Oldwood
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It is quite obvious US policy in the middle east is a complete failure. America should minimize if not completely end all involvement. The Palestinian issue would have been resolved many years ago if we and the rest of the world had stayed out of it. We have created an attrocity by effectively supporting both sides. The only reason Hamas is able to continue its policies is due to the money and more importantly the moral outrage that this continuing conflict generates. If the media left on Tuesday, Hamas would be marginalized and out of power by Friday.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:40 | 5016097 Iwanttoknow
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Listen up fuck,you despicable Mossad troll.We are sick of the same line you mofos have been repeating since 1949.Your kind is a vermin which will be exterminated.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 12:48 | 5018246 Oldwood
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And every stupid statement like this only gives Israel the excuse for what they do. Sure, exterminate them...perfect. I don't know if you have looked around lately but the Jews seemed to be the winners on most fronts. Keep pushing this theme and we may all end up Palestinians.

Make fucking reasoned arguments instead of this shit. Jews have plenty to answer for, don't make it easier for them.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:15 | 5016672 MeelionDollerBogus
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There is no Israel.

Hamas is firing rockets at invaders on their own Palestinian land.

The invaders must leave or must be fired upon. They are a terrorist locust swarm. There is no Israel, only an occupation of Palestine. ALL the land is Palestine there. All of it.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:12 | 5019821 AgDc
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Israel is a legitimate country.  There are no "palestine" people save for those that live in Jordan, a country that had no problem killing tens of thousands without a peep from you or the world community.

How about reading a book and wise up.

Thu, 07/31/2014 - 00:51 | 5020982 MeelionDollerBogus
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Ancient maps from Rome show there is a Palestine also known a Philistine.

There is no Israel. Palestine never ceased to exist. ANCIENT ISRAEL did & didn't have the borders of this modern terrorist occupation.

There is no legal, moral, modern state of Israel. Only a prison camp run by a terrorist group called Israel.

Read EVERY BOOK EVER TO EXIST and you can see when the old Israel did exist, and when it stopped.

You can't just arm up terrorists and call them a nation. That farce, that fraud, that terrorism of genocide, is the only thing made into modern Israel. It is not a nation. It is a terrorist kidnapping of the one true nation of PALESTINE.

http://mapas.owje.com/img/Mapa-de-la-Antigua-Palestina-Palaestina-5431.jpg

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 11:01 | 5017562 AgDc
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The hatred for Jews on this ZH site is just unbelievable.

Gaza was given to the "palestinians" and after turning it into a terrorist camp proceeded to launch missiles into Israel.

What more do you need to know.

Let's get back to finance, not Jew hatred.

 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 11:35 | 5017911 BigJim
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Yeah, cuz anyone criticising Israel is a Jew hater, right?

Gaza was given to the "palestinians" and after turning it into a terrorist camp proceeded to launch missiles into Israel.

Lulz, they were 'given' a small slice of land that should have been theirs to begin with? Here's some facts for you:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/israeli-ambassador-gaza_b_56...
 
 1) "We pulled out of the Gaza Strip in 2005... we pulled out of every inch."

Israel likes to pretend that the occupation of Gaza ended with Ariel Sharon's 'unilateral disengagement' from the strip in August 2005. It didn't. Israel is still, legally, the occupying power and continues to control Gaza's territorial borders, coastal waters and airspace. In fact, as Harvard University Middle East expert Sara Roy noted in the Boston Globe in 2012: "Israeli-imposed buffer zones -- areas of restricted access -- now absorb nearly 14 percent of Gaza's total land and at least 48 percent of total arable land. Similarly, the sea buffer zone covers 85 percent of the maritime area promised to Palestinians in the Oslo Accords, reducing 20 nautical miles to three..." Israel also continues to control the Palestinian Population Registry, which has the power to define who is a "Palestinian" and who is a legal resident of Gaza. Does Gaza sound sovereign, independent or un-occupied to you?

Now fuck off, Hasbara.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:16 | 5019832 AgDc
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Now fuck off, Hasbara

 

Wow, you're a real intellectual aren't you.  Geez.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:23 | 5020074 BigJim
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I guess the tears of joy streaming down your face when you heard the brave warriors of the IDF slaughtered a hundred civilians today obscured the other 95% of my post.

Zionists. Is there any sophistry to which they won't stoop?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 15:02 | 5018988 MeelionDollerBogus
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The hatred is all yours, your lies.
The facts are the facts: Gaza wasn't given, Gaza is owned by Palestine. No one else. Israel was stolen: it is stolen land and no Israel can exist by law.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:48 | 5015876 LetThemEatRand
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Was this a "measured and restrained" attack on the radio tower?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:55 | 5015910 One And Only
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Measured and restrained?

When are these words used during times of war?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:58 | 5015919 LetThemEatRand
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When the guys who are running the war run the media.  When someone says something different, they blow up their radio tower.  Measuredly.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:01 | 5015938 One And Only
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Propaganda is dangerous.

Especially when you're dealing with people willing to use women and children as human shields like Hamas is.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:05 | 5015944 LetThemEatRand
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And radio towers.  

But let's just say you're right, and Hamas is evil.  I don't really think otherwise.  I think all of these fuckers are evil.  What's your point?  Your evil is better than their evil?  How many children did the USA kill in the last decade fighting for freedom of the oil fields for multinational corporations?  Fuck these War Pigs.  If you support any of them you are one of them.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:08 | 5015965 One And Only
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I never said anyone was evil. You put those words in my mouth.

I'm saying it's factual that Hamas is using women and children as human shields. You can call that whatever you want.

I support self-defense. In this case Israel was attacked and has been attacked (even during cease fires).

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:11 | 5015978 LetThemEatRand
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It is also factual that Isreal and the US routinely deliberately kill women and children and call it collateral damage.  Several hundred thousand Iraqi civilians were killed in the Iraq war, which was fought over yellow cake that never existed.  Hamas is run by sociopaths, as is Isreal and the U.S.  Why do you support any of this?  

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:21 | 5016034 One And Only
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If I started unloading 7.62 rounds at your house every night. What would you do?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:32 | 5016054 LetThemEatRand
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It depends.   Did someone take my house and call it theirs, and then wonder why I'm pissed?  

But you're missing the point.  You're playing "Which Sociopath Should I FollowX."  A lot of people seem to like that one.  I would prefer a different game.  But go Team and all of that.

 

XBrought to you by the Rothschild brothers.  A family game.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:35 | 5016071 One And Only
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I think you're missing the point.

Judaism was around a couple thousand years before Islam.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:43 | 5016099 LetThemEatRand
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"Judaism was around a couple thousand years before Islam."

Who.  Fucking.  Cares.  Human beings existed a lot longer than your fucking team or their fucking team.  And everyone who lived until maybe 115 years ago is fucking dead.  Meanwhile, we all sit on this rock and pick teams, mostly based on some idea of a guy in the sky who picked us as His Team.   We can't all be right, can we.  But we can all be wrong.   Fuck all of the Teams.   Wonder why the world is so fucked up?  Look in the mirror. 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:59 | 5016171 eatapeach
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Well said. +1000

Yeah, the bronze-age gods brought lots of strife and benefited but a few people, for sure.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:42 | 5016325 JoJoJo
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God predates the bronze age.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:11 | 5016669 MeelionDollerBogus
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not the christian or judaistic god, no.

They do not.

The ancient gods of Greece do. Predates christian nonsense by thousands of years.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:10 | 5016202 One And Only
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So what did you mean by this:

"It depends.   Did someone take my house and call it theirs, and then wonder why I'm pissed?"

I will ask my question again.

What would you do if someone was firing 7.62 rounnds at your house every day?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:19 | 5016236 LetThemEatRand
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I would decree that all of the leaders should be on the front line and must fight for what they believe is theirs.  And when they are all dead, I'd shake hands with the other non-sociopaths and call it a day.  And when the next fucking two sociopath wanna-be-leaders came along, I'd give them guns and let them dual.  And so forth.

Do you think Isreal and Palestine would be at war if their leaders had to dual?  Serious question.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:37 | 5016305 One And Only
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What would you do if someone was firing 7.62 rounnds at your house every day?

Is what I asked.

Do you have a problem answering simple questions?

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