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On Washington's Ukrainian Fiasco: "Who Is The Real Problem Here?"

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Submitted by David Stockman via Contra Corner blog,

In just 800 words Pat Buchanan exposes the sheer juvenile delinquency embodied in Washington’s current Ukrainian fiasco. He accomplishes this by reminding us of the sober restraint that governed the actions of American Presidents from FDR to Eisenhower, Reagan and Bush I with respect to Eastern Europe during far more perilous times.

In a word, as much as they abhorred the brutal Soviet repression of the Hungarian uprising in 1956, the Prague Spring in 1968 and the solidarity movement in Poland in the early 1980s, among many other such incidents, they did not threaten war for one simple reason: These unfortunate episodes did not further endanger America’s national security. Instead, in different ways each of these Presidents searched for avenues of engagement with the often disagreeable and belligearent leaders of the Soviet Empire because they “felt that America could not remain isolated from the rulers of the world’s largest nation”.

Accordingly, during the entire span from 1933, when FDR recognized the Soviet Union, until 1991, when it ended, the US never once claimed Ukraine’s independence was part of its foreign policy agenda or a vital national security interest. Why in the world, therefore, should we be meddling in the backyard of a far less threatening Russia today?

More importantly, if Ike could invite Khrushchev to tour America and pow-wow with him at Camp David after the suppression of the Hungarian freedom fighters and his bluster over Berlin, what in the world is Obama doing attempting to demonize Putin and make him an international pariah? The fact is, Crimea had been part of Russia for 200 years, and the Donbas had been its Russian-speaking coal, steel and industrial heartland since the time of Stalin.

Putin’s disagreements with the Ukrainian nationalists who took over Kiev during the Washington inspired overthrow of its constitutionally-elected government in February are his legitimate geo-political business, but have nothing to do with our national security. And whatever his considerable faults, Putin is no totalitarian menace even remotely in the same league as his Soviet predecessors. In that regard, Hillary Clinton’s sophomoric comparison of him to Hitler is downright preposterous.

At the heart of the matter is the War Party’s desire to punish Putin for pushing back against American interventionism in Syria, Iran, Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East. For that Washington has now ensnared itself in an ancient ethnic struggle that has roiled Russia’s borders for centuries; and has landed smack in the middle of an attempt by Kiev’s nationalists to violently maintain the “territorial integrity” of a nation who’s boundaries have been meandering all over the map since the middle ages.

In that context, Senator John McCain’s call to arm the ruffians, opportunists, oligarchs and neo-fascists who took power in a street level coup in Kiev is downright lunatic. It causes Buchanan to ask, “Who is the real problem here?”

The answer is that it’s not Putin, and that conclusion comes from a brilliant partisan scholar of 20th century foreign policy who is no left-wing pacifist.


By Pat Buchanan (via Anti-war)

In 1933, the Holodomor was playing out in Ukraine.

After the “kulaks,” the independent farmers, had been liquidated in the forced collectivization of Soviet agriculture, a genocidal famine was imposed on Ukraine through seizure of her food production.

Estimates of the dead range from two to nine million souls.

Walter Duranty of the New York Times, who called reports of the famine “malignant propaganda,” won a Pulitzer for his mendacity.

In November 1933, during the Holodomor, the greatest liberal of them all, FDR, invited Foreign Minister Maxim Litvinov to receive official U.S. recognition of his master Stalin’s murderous regime.

On August 1, 1991, just four months before Ukraine declared its independence of Russia, George H. W. Bush warned Kiev’s legislature:

“Americans will not support those who seek independence in order to replace a far-off tyranny with a local despotism. They will not aid those who promote a suicidal nationalism based upon ethnic hatred.”

In short, Ukraine’s independence was never part of America’s agenda. From 1933 to 1991, it was never a U.S. vital interest. Bush I was against it.

When then did this issue of whose flag flies over Donetsk or Crimea become so crucial that we would arm Ukrainians to fight Russian-backed rebels and consider giving a NATO war guarantee to Kiev, potentially bringing us to war with a nuclear-armed Russia?

From FDR on, U.S. presidents have felt that America could not remain isolated from the rulers of the world’s largest nation.

Ike invited Khrushchev to tour the USA after he had drowned the Hungarian Revolution in blood. After Khrushchev put missiles in Cuba, JFK was soon calling for a new detente at American University.

Within weeks of Warsaw Pact armies crushing the Prague Spring in August 1968, LBJ was seeking a summit with Premier Alexei Kosygin.

After excoriating Moscow for the downing of KAL 007 in 1983, that old Cold Warrior Ronald Reagan was fishing for a summit meeting.

The point: Every president from FDR through George H. W. Bush, even after collisions with Moscow far more serious than this clash over Ukraine, sought to re-engage the men in the Kremlin.

Whatever we thought of the Soviet dictators who blockaded Berlin, enslaved Eastern Europe, put rockets in Cuba and armed Arabs to attack Israel, Ike, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush 1 all sought to engage Russia’s rulers.

Avoidance of a catastrophic war demanded engagement.

How then can we explain the clamor of today’s U.S. foreign policy elite to confront, isolate, and cripple Russia, and make of Putin a moral and political leper with whom honorable statesmen can never deal?

What has Putin done to rival the forced famine in Ukraine that starved to death millions, the slaughter of the Hungarian rebels or the Warsaw Pact’s crushing of Czechoslovakia?

In Ukraine, Putin responded to a U.S.-backed coup, which ousted a democratically elected political ally of Russia, with a bloodless seizure of the pro-Russian Crimea where Moscow has berthed its Black Sea fleet since the 18th century. This is routine Big Power geopolitics.

And though Putin put an army on Ukraine’s border, he did not order it to invade or occupy Luhansk or Donetsk. Does this really look like a drive to reassemble either the Russian Empire of the Romanovs or the Soviet Empire of Stalin that reached to the Elbe?

As for the downing of the Malaysian airliner, Putin did not order that. Sen. John Cornyn says U.S. intelligence has not yet provided any “smoking gun” that ties the missile-firing to Russia.

Intel intercepts seem to indicate that Ukrainian rebels thought they had hit an Antonov military transport plane.

Yet, today, the leading foreign policy voice of the Republican Party, Sen. John McCain, calls Obama’s White House “cowardly” for not arming the Ukrainians to fight the Russian-backed separatists.

But suppose Putin responded to the arrival of U.S. weapons in Kiev by occupying Eastern Ukraine. What would we do then?

John Bolton has the answer: Bring Ukraine into NATO.

Translation: The U.S. and NATO should go to war with Russia, if necessary, over Luhansk, Donetsk and Crimea, though no U.S. president has ever thought Ukraine itself was worth a war with Russia.

What motivates Putin seems simple and understandable. He wants the respect due a world power. He sees himself as protector of the Russians left behind in his “near abroad.” He relishes playing Big Power politics. History is full of such men.

He allows U.S. overflights to Afghanistan, cooperates in the P5+1 on Iran, helped us rid Syria of chemical weapons, launches our astronauts into orbit, collaborates in the war on terror and disagrees on Crimea and Syria.

But what motivates those on our side who seek every opportunity to restart the Cold War?

Is it not a desperate desire to appear once again Churchillian, once again heroic, once again relevant, as they saw themselves in the Cold War that ended so long ago?

Who is the real problem here?


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Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:10 | 5015692 q99x2
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Globalize all oil and gas private and corpororate holdings and make all the citizens of the world beneficiaries.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:22 | 5015739 Buck Johnson
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They need a war in order to give a reason for the US and the western economies going to crap.



Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:28 | 5015760 Dutti
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I can't believe I'm in full agreement with Pat Buchanan.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:37 | 5015820 cowdiddly
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Ill bet McShitstain is about to have an anyresum. He can't wait to get the chance for someone to blow up a bigger aircraft carrier than he did to remove his name from the record books.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:55 | 5015915 DeadFred
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It sounded good until the take-home message. The purpose of this is to look like Churchill???? No, the reason for this is the dollar is dying and they either want cover for its demise or a Hail Mary attempt to save it. I'm undecided about what I think they are trying but it's certainly not to look statesmanlike.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:03 | 5015949 magnetosphere
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uhh churchill destroyed the british pound

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 03:36 | 5016621 August
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And, FWIW, the British Empire.

Buchanan's Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War is definitely worth the read.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 07:04 | 5016851 Latina Lover
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Of course the Ukraine situation is not a strategic threat to national security..... this  is about the USSA dismembering a perceived challenger (Russia) and stealing her resources.

This is nothing more than good ol' 19th Century imperialism, USSA redux.


Tue, 07/29/2014 - 08:45 | 5017071 Davalicious
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Churchill carried on an illegal correspondence with FDR with a view to pushing UK and US to war. When patriots uncovered the plot the PM (Chamberlain) was deposed and thousands of patriots jailed. Churchill had received $$$$$ from the anti nazi league. Remember "Judea declares war on Germany" in 1933?

You can find the story online in "the nameless war" and "from admiral to cabin boy".


We face the same enemy today. 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 02:00 | 5016497 SF beatnik
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Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Cue Bucky Turgidson.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 06:56 | 5016836 StychoKiller
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Right, and next you'll be calling for the Fed to be abolished!  (Keep on Truckin'!)

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 12:23 | 5018152 Duffy
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Buchanan - in part, he's mellowed, in part, he's turned critic of politicians that have become worse and a government that's more corrupt and out of control - all of which makes him relatively better, but he always got kind of a bad rap.

I certainly don't agree with him on much, but I have no problem saying I'd rather him as president than either Obama, Hillary, Jeb, or Rand Benedict Arnold Paul.


Basically because of his non-interventionism.  I can live with his social conservatism given he'd not be using executive orders and signing statements to get around laws.


Of course, I'd vote for most people who aren't orthodox dems or repugnicants.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:27 | 5015755 LetThemEatRand
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"Globalize all oil and gas private and corpororate holdings and make all the citizens of the world beneficiaries."

But then it wouldn't be worth anything, because some oligarch would make sure we need to rely on some other form of energy.  

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:03 | 5016652 barre-de-rire
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you will have to.. how you motorizer drones & plaine without oil ? refresh my memory...



  • take soldiers home while you still can afford the flight price
  • stay home nicely.
  • feel free to kick mexican out of boundaries, not EU problem,
  • dont trigger something whe whole world would put stuff back on your dont have the neck to support it
Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:28 | 5015758 CrashisOptimistic
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You do realize the US consumes 24% of global daily oil with 4% of global population?

You ready to chop GDP by a factor of 6?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:33 | 5015795 therevolutionwas
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So much of GDP is gov't. I would welcome that part of it.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:35 | 5015806 El Vaquero
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You ready to chop GDP by a factor of 6?

Yes.  But in a fast pain vs slow pain sort of way.  We all know what's coming, so let us get it over with.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:40 | 5015833 potato
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I suspect those numbers. Off the top of my head, US produces a bit over 10 million barrels, world consumption is about 110 million barrels, of which less than 15 million are from US.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:25 | 5016265 CrashisOptimistic
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It must not have occurred to you to just FUCKING LOOK IT UP.

The US burns about 18 million bpd of crude.  The world burns about 75 mbpd of crude.  That's about 24%.

US pop is 320 million.  World pop about 7.2B.  That's about 4%.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 01:06 | 5016390 Spitzer
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nice rant

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 07:58 | 5016958 Miles Ahead
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(nice rant)  Not really.  He's off by a huge factor: 20%.  US consumes 18.5m bpd from a world consumption of 92m.   I interject as that was a bit harsh to tell the guy to 'fucking look it up' in ALL CAPS and then be that much off.  After all, the guy said "off the top of my head" and his name is 'Potato'. 

All that being said, I feel your pain with all these authorities that ZH is attracting these days.  The price of popularity I guess.  Perhaps the Tylers may want to have posters submit educational qualifications in relevant fields of study or industry experience in order to be able to exceed postings greater than 25 characters… just sayin'.

In the end, yeah, he should fucking look it up.  But not all caps man; that's a bit harsh.

Miles Davis Ballads and Blues

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 02:22 | 5016486 socalbeach
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World consumption of oil is about 91.4 mbpd.  U.S. consumption is about 18.3 mbpd, or 20% of the total. Or using your numbers 19.5% (100 * 18 / (75+18)).

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 05:43 | 5016758 Urban Redneck
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If you want be a smart ass you need to be more precise (or just stick to pure CTRL-C, CTRL-P, from original sources). One could argue that world demand for oil is 91.4mbpd (as the actual IEA analysis cited your ecofreak paper does. However, that does not mean that supply (i.e. world consumption) is being met by "oil".

One could engage in a scientific argument over the definition of "oil", but there is a much simpler approach, Oil is supplied to oil refineries where value added products are manufactured and then supplied to the market for consumption. So from the cover page of the same IEA source data

Global refinery crude runs dipped below year?earlier levels in June, for the first time since October. Planned and unplanned outages, capacity rationalisation and weak margins cut runs by 0.9 mb/d on the year, to 76.8 mb/d. The 2Q14 estimate has been lowered by 0.3 mb/d, to 76.2 mb/d, while the 3Q14 forecast is unchanged, at 77.8 mb/d.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 08:25 | 5017006 swmnguy
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Could we say that the US uses a lot more oil than anybody else, and wildly more adjusted for population?  After all, 89% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 09:16 | 5017183 oddjob
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Exactly, but only 14% of the population know all statistics are fabricated.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 12:15 | 5018061 socalbeach
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One could argue that world demand for oil is 91.5mbpd ?  Your own link says the estimate of 2014 global oil demand is 92.7 mbpd.

On the question of US oil demand, this article says it's 15.6 mbpd.

So without spending any more time on the issue, if you use the numbers (15.6, 76.8) or (18.3, 92.7) you still come up with 20%, not 24%, for the ratio of US to global demand.

(Maybe someone can explain the big difference between the 76.8 mbpd refining figure and the 92.7 mbpd oil demand figure from UR's link.)

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:01 | 5019942 Urban Redneck
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I simply copied and pasted both sets of numbers. In regards to the other difference you mentioned:

15.9/76.8=.207 (20.7%)

Most of that would be the non-crude oil inputs that are added at the refinery, there also might some wetgas or actual biofuels (ex ethanol) but it would take lots of digging into the reporting methodology for a minimal return, so I'll be lazy and just call it all "processing gain."

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:29 | 5015759 JohninMK
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Brilliant analysis. I hope every world leader reads it.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:44 | 5015855 CH1
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I hope every world leader reads it.

If they understood it, they wouldn't give a shit.

They don't care about you, at all. It's all for show.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:31 | 5015772 therevolutionwas
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Nice thought.  But we know how that would end up.  Some would benefit much more than others.  I'd say free up mankind, period.  Make the state irrelevant.  It would eventually unleash a whirlwind of innovation and progress...well, that's my dream anyway.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:28 | 5016270 TheReplacement
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Sadly, his bad idea is doable.  Your good idea is not.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:24 | 5016261 TheReplacement
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Even Stu who has a well in his backyard that he paid for?  That doesn't seem fair.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 05:21 | 5016734 Urban Redneck
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Redistribution of energy resources would teach those suffering from cranial-rectal impaction, who apparently have the wealth to post on the internet, a good lesson about the true aims of the global redistribution flow and how their role is that of a grantor (donor), not a beneficiary.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 10:11 | 5017433 Berspankme
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fuck you q99

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 11:57 | 5018032 Duffy
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bound to get junked here Q, but all in all, that would solve a lot of problems and obviate a lot of fuckery and avoid a lot of death.


Oh, rights and profits always, always come first for ideologues....



Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:15 | 5015714 logicalman
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Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:36 | 5015819 therevolutionwas
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Anarchy is the solution?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:39 | 5015829 Living The Dream
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You think tyranny is better?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:43 | 5015854 therevolutionwas
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Just drawin folks out.   Anarchocapitalism is the way to go.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:51 | 5015900 Anusocracy
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Anarchy is never the solution for control freaks.

If that happened, they would have nothing to live for, no way to feel superior.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:05 | 5015954 NemoDeNovo
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Sadly most fail to accept that we [in an odd sort of way] do live in Anarchy everyday.  I mean there is not a po-lice with you every min of th day, correct?  When you are in line at the grocery store or movie theatre you are for all intents and purposes in a state of Anarchy, but there is no shoving, pushing or choas is there?  I think we would be reasonably fine under Anarchy despite the howls of closet statist.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:20 | 5016033 7.62x54r
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Tell ya what ...

Lets chop the US government down to 10% of its current size, 1950 levels of spending.

Then we can debate about the remaining 10%.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 12:05 | 5018072 Duffy
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no it isn't.  it's a fucking adolescent theory about how thing 'ought' to be with no regard for pragmatics, let alone basic humanism (meaning - do we regard clean drinking water as something like a right, or do we say property rights trump this survival right).

Not going to debate this with you because I've seen that move before - there's alway a theoretical answer.

Not all libertarians support anarchocapitalism for reasons of libertarianism.  In fact, you assholes are a large part of why 80% of the country won't even begin to take libertarian ideas seriously, imho.

Also - borders aren't just for government control, but for protecting and defending culture and values and ethos... anarchos tend to reduce man to a one-dimensional economic being while *claiming* it's about full liberty.  Well, people should be free to say, we don't want to turn into a Latin American, or Arab country - we want a homeland as an extended clann or tribe.  Your desire to live anywhere isn't a "right" that somehow is more primordial than the "right" of others to define themselves socially and culturally.


Of course, more 'ideally' one might say, one sohuld be only a human being.  But if someone wants to be French or Dutch first - that's none of your fucking business.

All this said, I'd rather your approach than the duopoly's.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:29 | 5016280 TheReplacement
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Suppose the UN passed a global law that forbid government.  Who exactly is going to enforce that dictat, the government?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:25 | 5016046 Kirk2NCC1701
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"GOVERNMENT IS THE REAL PROBLEM".  Yes, in its present form and size.  The current paradigm is at its limits.

The big intellectual and simulation debates are Hierarchy vs. Network structures.  Nature can teach us a lot, for those who are willing to learn.

Which means that statist and extremist ideologues, whose status and lifestyle was acquired and is secured by the current systems, will not change for anything or anyone.  That's just human nature.  Plan accordingly.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:29 | 5016285 TheReplacement
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Oooh nature does teach us a lot whether we are willing or not.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:14 | 5015717 Wahooo
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Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:21 | 5015735 are we there yet
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Our Oligarchs, Russia’s oligarchs, and Europe’s oligarchs should get together and tell us what they want us to think.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 06:16 | 5016799 mvsjcl
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Isn't that what the Bilderberg meetings are for?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 10:38 | 5017578 tvdog
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Only the European and American oligarchs are represented at Bilderberg. Trilaterals bring in the Japanese. So far, no worldwide meeting of oligarchs except maybe Davos. The Chinese and Russians are left out.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:28 | 5015761 potato
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FDR betrayed Eastern Europe and sold it out to Stalin.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:39 | 5015818 Omen IV
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 Truman dropped TWO atom bombs over Japan – for no strategic reason – Japan was done already by that time – why did he do it ?

To Impress Stalin to back off of Eastern Europe –Stalin had no comparable weapon -  Stalin didn’t blink!

So don’t say it was FDR – they were ALL afraid of him – and that is the difference here today – they don’t think Putin is crazy – which is key Putin needs to move and slit their throats in mass  – The guy in North Korea they “think” is crazy so they don’t bother him – think about that!

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:15 | 5016009 dhengineer
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No, the two atomic bombs were to stop Joe from occupying Hokaido.  The USSR declared war on Japan on August 1, 1945, specifically to do to Japan what he did to Eastern Europe, and to acquire a warm-water Pacific port.  Another reason was to avenge the naval losses Russia suffered in the 1905 Sino-Russian war with Japan.  Truman sacrificed a half-million civilians in order to back Joe down, and Stalin did blink on that one. 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:25 | 5016043 7.62x54r
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The Japanese were not ready to surrender. They felt they could keep the Mikado safe, and bleed the US with enough casualties during the invasion to get an armistace.

After the first bomb, they still felt it might have been a non-reproduceable stunt.

After the second bomb, the surrender demand was written by a mole of Stalin's in the State department.

Japan surrendered after the State Department had a nisei write the third demand for them. They were willing to accept an American Shogunate.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:36 | 5016070 Kirk2NCC1701
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I'd argue that Stalin (a Georgian, FWIW) was a "sick fuck" and utterly ruthless, but in a tough bind.

Given that he was up against Zio-Bolsheviks who wanted ever more power and control, he had little choice but to do an "extreme purge".  Those who survived or fled into exile, have never forgiven him, and their descendants are now the Zio-Neocon types that we have in high places in our media, industry and government.  They won't be "whole" until they've had their vengeance in full measure.

And there you have it: Old-world BS, grudge-fests and boundless ambition, poisoning the New World and the whole world.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:34 | 5016303 TheReplacement
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That is an interesting take.  You should put together an analysis of the geneology and have ZH publish it.  If you can document a web of conspirators you really might have something.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 09:03 | 5017141 flash338
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Stalin beat Hitler. To the victor goes the spoils. We got the reserve currency of the world. I'd say it was a fair trade.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 12:30 | 5018166 Duffy
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no - it was always about defeating germany.  it was never about poland, or freedom, or any of that shit.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:29 | 5015762 LetThemEatRand
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The lunatics are running the asylum.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:00 | 5015931 Anusocracy
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And the morons asked them to.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:01 | 5015936 LetThemEatRand
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Some morons can be taught.  I am one.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:19 | 5016023 Anusocracy
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Slow learner.

You still wish government upon others. No different than wishing cancer upon them.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:23 | 5016038 LetThemEatRand
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You wish oligarchs upon others.  I wish for balances, as in checks and....

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:36 | 5016085 Anusocracy
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There wouldn't be corporations, $fiat, wealth redistribution, and a multitude of other government fuckups that are the basis of what you are criticising, dipshit.

The world is what it is because of government, not because of the absence of government.

Obviously you are a no-learner.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:47 | 5016132 IridiumRebel
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Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:39 | 5016316 TheReplacement
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Rand is right.  The government we have is what it is because the people have voted for it and allowed more.  It is the people who are ultimately to blame in this country.  We have the right to vote.  We have the right to run for office.  We have arms to defend ourselves.  Still we have this government.

You cannot abolish government.  All it takes is for neighbors to band together and viola, government.  You better bet the next neighborhood over is going to form a government of their own once they are attacked, be it by individual criminals or the new neighborhood council a few blocks over.  One thing leads to another and here we are.  Your dream is just a fantasy that cannot happen.  Psychopaths don't care what you think.  You can't fix that.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:11 | 5016667 barre-de-rire
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there is no balance, even in chaos, the chaos counter balance chaos, which makes chaos stable, compared to our actual world, it is not chaos, coz it is not balanced, at all. kill poor, steal from medium class, hold up for the richs.


loot at pyramid on other tyler's post, 46% for 1% population, & from 2000 wealth made a x2....


as exponential basic sheme, i let you consider where we are on the curve when you make such jump in numbers.

buck up belts gringos,  take of is for soon.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:29 | 5015764 7againstThebes
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jews are the real problem here.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:45 | 5015863 CH1
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Fuck off and die.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:56 | 5015920 Anusocracy
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Like everyone else who supports government.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:53 | 5016130 Kirk2NCC1701
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I see it more differentiated, just like "Americans are the problem" is too broad a paint brush.

I'd argue that Global Zionists -- not Zionists with mere dreams of a homeland, but a sect of Kabal Zionists with ambition to have the world play by their rules and by their worldview -- are the problem of a special kind of imperialism:  The takeover of the socioeconomic pyramid of every country.  Conquest, not assimilation is their ambition.

They typically gain control stepwise, via leveraged moves in strategic sectors, like finance, media and government.  And then fool everyone else, by getting people to look in all the wrong directions, create all the false arguments (deflect and redirect), cause chaos and dissent -- all designed to Divide & Conquer.

Devilishly clever, if you think about it.  The Rx?  Health activism to bring the Truth out into Open Day, for all to see.  They hate that.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:48 | 5016342 TheReplacement
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Kirk, I see a promotion in your future.  Duck it's a drone! 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:46 | 5016336 TheReplacement
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So Jarrett, Obama, Clinton, Kerry, Cameron, Abe... they are good to go, clean as a whistle?  This jew bs is just cover for one group of conspirators.  Certainly there are a lot of Jews involved in the conspiracy but anyone who claims it's the jews (as in all and only the jews) is either lead paint retarded and willing to believe anything so they can blame their problems on some "other" or they are getting paid. 

Which one are you?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 05:19 | 5016733 Frankie Carbone
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There's always a simpleton looking for a simple scapegoat, if only because they're too dull to figure out what's really going on in this world so they feel the need to package up their observations in a 5 word soundbite easy enough to post in a single line on in a comment section. 

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:31 | 5015773 Omen IV
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Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, David Stockman, Richard Cohen (Professor Emeritus Russian Studies NYU) all call into question the fundamental principle of why US has any reason to be involved.

A local civil war is cause for equivalent Monroe Doctrine by Russia – they need to protect their border from the USA – pure and simple

The prize for Obama et al is Russia itself that is what they want – this is strategic advance line for the next phase in 5 years

Putin should take the east and forget about the response and Europe will eventually come around


Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:12 | 5015994 Ides of November
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He needs to get Turkey out of NATO. That could be the hold up here.

Just needs the separatists to hold out for a few more weeks until Erdogan is the elected Turkish President.

Turkey can then withdraw from NATO, evict any and all foreign troops on its soil, declare it's neutrality and then close the Bosphorus to any warships from non-littoral countries.

If this happens - and US warships are cleared from the Black Sea, I have no doubt Putin would feel emboldened enough to push back and push back hard against Ukraine.

The Turkish Election is scheduled for August 10. I encourage all Zero Hedgers to contact your local Russian & Turkish consuls and embassies to call on immediate Turkish withdrawal from NATO in the interests of global peace and security. Turkey May be the only country out there that can truly prevent the drive towards World War 3 that is gathering pace.

The question is - can Russia/Putin hold off long enough for Turkey to come through?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:51 | 5016349 TheReplacement
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Why wait that long?  Isn't Turkey sending "a flotilla" to Gaza?  We could have a war between Turkey and Israel.  What does Syria, Lebanon, IS, Iran, and Egypt each do then?  What does NATO do?  The scenario seems to have lots of options for fun and entertainment, if you stay out of it.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 03:20 | 5016595 Ides of November
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Didn't know about this flotilla - maybe Turkey are looking for a way to be "kicked out" of NATO.

Surely, if Israel attacks Turkey that is an attack on all of NATO and all of NATO would then have to attack Israel? Huh, yeah right.

So, NATO turns around and says it will not defend Turkey from an Israeli attack, and Turkey rips up any and all NATO agreements and withdraws immediately.

I guess you'd have to say it is a possibility this is what Erodgan is up to.

The world could be substantially different and unstable in a month's time.

Kicking it off will be Argentina's default this Wednesday. What happens then? BRICS becomes BRICAS? And then a few weeks later BRICTAS?

If Russia/ China had any strategic sense they would make this happen. Pronto.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 07:51 | 5016932 fel.temp.reparatio
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Mavi Marmara deja vu, perhaps?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 07:43 | 5016918 fel.temp.reparatio
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I lived in Istanbul, Turkey for almost 2 years, up until just before the Gezi Park protests commenced. There is growing mistrust of the West and an open resentment of US military personal on Turkish soil - and this feeling is shared by not only the mainly young, educated and secular Istanbulians, but also by (who the Economist refers to as) the Anotolian peasentry.

The idea that Turkey should/must join the EU is also loosing favour - some even go as far as to say that the stalled progress of EU membership is a blessing in disguise and Turkey should just give up (it first applied to join in the late 80s), that it's not meant to be.

Turkey has had a Free Trade Agreement with the EU since the mid 90s, but has more recently been focusing on the East and the emerging Eurasian Economic Union, which could very well rival the EU in the next few years. 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:43 | 5020941 Ides of November
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I am thinking more and more Turkey is the more important swing state than Germany here. If Turkey leaves NATO, the Germans might be inclined to follow.

It seems clear that Merkel is cowed by the US/UK/NATO at the moment and not willing to step out of line unless she is sure she has a winning hand to be played. Bringing the French/ Eastern Europe (minus Poland & Baltics) doesn't seem to cut it for Merkel.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 23:03 | 5025892 fel.temp.reparatio
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Turkey's downfall, though, has got to be Erdogan... he's done well of late to get a lot of Western leaders off-side including Obama, and is actively taking steps to 'Islamize' the country - again, this feeling is shared generally by the secular Turks themselves. Amid corruption allegations and voting scandals within his AKP party, he's slowing loosing popularity... presidential elections are in August, so there is general uncertainty as to where the country as a whole is headed.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:31 | 5015775 redwater
Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:31 | 5015780 Sutton
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Patrick Buchanan is a genius. He saw it all. Open borders/ free trade/ neoConnism. Bankrupting the middle class and the destruction of the Republic.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:35 | 5015804 LetThemEatRand
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He and crazy ass Perot (who I voted for).

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:52 | 5015895 Jorgen
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Patrick Buchanan is a genius. He saw it all. Open borders/ free trade/ neoConnism. Bankrupting the middle class and the destruction of the Republic.

And (long forgotten) Ross Perot, too.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:24 | 5016041 Anusocracy
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Way way after anarchists and minarchists.

He's not capable of seeing the real cause.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:31 | 5015784 CrashisOptimistic
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The problem . . . if you want to call it a problem . . . is oil scarcity.

Oil is scarce and getting more scarce and Russia has the lion's share of output.

It will not be long at all before they can become the swing producer.  They can just reduce output voluntarily and be suddenly the only party with possession of "spare production capacity".

The situation is that.  Simply that.  And overwhelmingly that.  It has nothing to do with money.  Nothing to do with gold.  Nothing to do with Jew conspiracies.

The world needs more oil than it used to and population rises 1% per year, so the need will rise, too.  Russia has the winning card hand and if you're anyone but Russia, you have to hate that.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:44 | 5015858 potato
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Last i checked, US, Russian and Saudi production all hover around 10 million barrels per day. 

While Russia produces a net export of oil, the only reason Russia doesn't use more oil is because it has half the population of the US and the Russian economy is far behind the US. If Russia's economy grows further, domestic consumption will cannabilize exports. And that's good for Russia, because mercantilist exportation of depletable natural resources is not sustainable.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:33 | 5016049 deflator
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 You keep posting U.S. production of barrels per day at 10 million for some reason? "Ministry of Truth" numbers?

 I wonder how many millions of barrels are consumed on a daily basis to produce those production numbers?

 Just a back of a napkin guesstimate would be surprised if U.S. production was anywhere near 5 million barrels per day.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:28 | 5016281 CrashisOptimistic
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7-8ish mbpd, though some of the stuff coming out of shale is probably not quite "oil" vs condensate or NGLs after it cools.  8 is a good number.  out of about 16-19 consumption (depending on purely crude or C+C)

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 01:55 | 5016492 bid the soldier...
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"some of the stuff coming out of shale "

Oh, it's oil.  But shale oil wells only last a few years. The wells in Arabia are still producing after 60 years.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 08:02 | 5016953 deflator
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 The point I was trying to make is much of U.S. production is unconventional where none of the extra energy costs such as more steel pipe, more tanker trucks hauling water and fracking fluids, so on and so forth is deducted from production totals. We do not calculate energy return on energy invested--we calculate dollar return on dollar invested.  Energy return on energy invested for unconventional production is much lower than conventional production. 


 Whats more is much of the energy being consumed in the production of additional steel pipe, tanker trucks, drill rigs, etc. for drill, baby, drill is conventional oil. Once we get further down the depletion curve for conventional oil, unconventional production eroei will go down even further. 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 12:50 | 5018254 bid the soldier...
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My only disagreement is that eroei is very 20th century.

The world is headed, maybe not this decade or next, to just plain energy returned.   Period.

For a nation with a National Debt of $17 trillion, 10 nuclear aircraft carriers and 10 conventional ones and a printing press in the basement of the Fed, let the costs be damned.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:19 | 5019609 deflator
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 Extrapolate the past 150 years of lower left to upper right on the charts of energy consumption a few more decades and all life on the planet will be in it's final spasms of heat death.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:13 | 5020559 bid the soldier...
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Or to say it another way, when the last American Republican oligarch burns the last lump of coal, it will be a signal, like the Monolith's shriek in '2001', and the Sun's corona will begin a double fast, quickstep toward the orbiting planets.

Hope you like S'mores. 

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 21:58 | 5025631 potato
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Hey that's a very good call.

An additional deflator is the energy lost transporting shale oil via trucks and trains to pipelines and refineries. 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 05:24 | 5016736 Frankie Carbone
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Intreresting how most people can clearly understand geometric growth rates of stocks and other financial instruments yet cannot apply this same simple math to population dynamics. 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 01:51 | 5016482 bid the soldier...
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And the cretinous neocons have made 'peak oil' a national security issue (and sold it to Obama), which can only be resolved by America controlling as much production as they can.

So we must be on the road to Hell.

Just listen to the Presidents and Prime Ministers of the enlightened West tell us of their good intentions.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:23 | 5016677 barre-de-rire
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hmmmm sorry but, oil = money


without oil no money. oil is a depreciated ressource  that makes the world turns. it is the economy motor. world is not & never be an inteligencia union to announce we goin down on it & need to make something else.

there is no alternative to oil. in what material you gonna make your tires to drive... all cloths back in cotton ??? is production enough ? think about the dimension oil has took in your daily living.

over 70% of the planet will go mad about that....kill & suicide if there is no plastic/oil/computer/food contener in supermarkets etc..  oil is the key.

 every where in any city of the world, you cannot put your lookin somewhere to evitate a result of the oil.


ppl cloths, the ground, the cars, any piece of equipment. this is insanity. i am sure of that, most part of the plane cannot accept to go back in the pre oil-plastic era.

this, is a WW3 triggering factor.


Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:50 | 5015797 illyia
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Who is the real problem here? Who cares? By the time everyone is finished congratulating themselves on their brilliant deductive skills it will have become apparent that no one is willing to back down.

It would all be laughable if it weren't so damn deadly.

Next to this global crap-shoot Kennedy and the Bay of Pigs looks like child's play.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:33 | 5015799 pods
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We are a dying empire full of sociopaths pulling all levers of power.

We have our dirty little hands all over the world, and the world is waking up to it and saying enough.

The US will never go quiet into that night, especially with the MIC and AIPAC pulling strings harder and faster as things fall down.


Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:51 | 5015890 NemoDeNovo
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IMO we are a long DEAD Empire.  To use a funeral analogy we are past the wake, chuch service, procession and grave side service, we are just now hanging around to watch the coffin lowered and the closing of the crypt, that is usually when the 'reality' sets in and the overly hysterical grieving begins en masse.


Just my 2c

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:33 | 5016068 El Vaquero
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Not dead, just an empty shell of what we were.  It was like when my grandfather came down with brain cancer.  His body continued to breath, but his mind was not there.  I mourned his death before his death happened because of this.  I've also already finished mourning the death of the US.  I don't recognize this country anymore.  

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:42 | 5016108 IridiumRebel
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We'll, the real problem will be when this big fuckin war kicks off and all of us dissenters are recognized by the Corpse USA.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 03:58 | 5016648 August
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Cold, hungry Americans.

Life is so unfair.


Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:34 | 5015800 Al Huxley
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I wasn't a fan of Buchanan during the Reagan years, but this is an excellent essay.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:39 | 5015831 LetThemEatRand
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Paul Craig Roberts was also a Reagan fan once.  Now, not so much.  You've got to hand it to these guys for calling it like it is, especially when they were insiders once upon a time.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:23 | 5016039 IridiumRebel
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Sometimes people become "too old for this shit". I think these insiders are sick of seeing this nation be set up as the Patsy for evil Füx. They all went to high places because they ultimately cared and wanted to do well by us. Sure, they played ball and did tow the line, but when a man sees his time shorter and shorter, sometimes they just say fuck it and start saying what they want. Buchanan nails it. Ready the bunkers. These fuckers want war cuz there ain't much left otherwise and Mr Buchanan, Stockman and Dr PCR know it.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:34 | 5016077 7.62x54r
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Even Wilson regretted what he had done, after the fact.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:39 | 5016095 IridiumRebel
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In school a while back we were asked who the worst Prez was. I said Wilson. Teacher thought my answer was poor. I still stand by that thought. Fuck the Fed.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 10:58 | 5017700 Estrella
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With such a long list of bad presidents it is hard to choose, which is worse, but, Wilson is certainly very near the top.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 02:32 | 5016535 One of We
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You can add Walter Jones to that list.  It takes some brass balls and a relatively clean NSA file to man up and call it like it is especially if you have to swallow your pride enough to admit you were wrong.  

And then there's McCain, Nancy Boy, Feinstein, Boehner, Murkowski, Don Young, and the list of lunatics with fat NSA files goes on and on.....

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 10:10 | 5017430 flapdoodle
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Actually, PCR still has a lot of good things to say about Reagan. For all this faults, Reagan had a lot of common sense, but was not an insider to the neo-con cabal.

My paranoid half is convinced that they neo-con Deep State tried to assassinate Reagan to install Bush I - the assassination failed, but from then on Reagan just went along for the ride, so the effect was pretty much the same.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 12:16 | 5018125 Duffy
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You can like or dislike Reagan according to what you focus on. I'm not sure most harsh critics of Reagan have any kind of deep knowledge of his presidency.

However, in the case of Bush and Obama, I'd say both have been far worse than Reagan or Carter, and it is distressing that more don't understand why.

jmo, of course.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:40 | 5015837 therevolutionwas
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The guy has really come around.  (But he still thinks Nixon was great).

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:49 | 5015883 besnook
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nixon was great but he was an asshole.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:11 | 5015981 besnook
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for he down arrow- clean air and water act, opening the door to china, ended the vietnam war, the petrodollar(saved the defaulted dollar), and a few more things i don't remember now. watergate was the result of a disgruntled employee who did not get appointed to the top post at the cia or fbi(i forget), a jewish fellow named felt otherwise known as deep throat. i campaigned for mcgovern/shriver.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:36 | 5016082 7.62x54r
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Nixon was a simon pure paladin compared to what came later.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 10:00 | 5017389 Schizofrantic Squonk
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Nixon killed the cross-Florida barge canal by executive order, when Congress, for many years, would not. The canal would have been a disaster to Florida's water supply.

That, and his "secret plan to end the Viet Nam War" (by declaring victory, and withdrawing) are redeeming acts for a president widely remembered as an unmitigated turd.

We should follow his war plan everywhere we are meddling. Just say, "we won", and leave.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 12:18 | 5018131 Duffy
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nixon extended the vietnam war, probably, certainly was willing to avoid ending it, to get elected.

As for Kissinger...  Hitchens is a good resource.  Was.


Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:36 | 5015810 alexcojones
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USA, Israel and NATO want to start a war for couple reasons. They are all broke, have high youth unemployment, and have Satanic muthafuckers for leaders.

Putin does not want a war, and so he is pissing off the Satanic sociopaths.

Godspeed Mr. PUTIN.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:47 | 5015872 potato
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Hey young, impressionable [unemplyable, unskilled] person! Join the Navy! Travel the world['s STD-infested ports]! Die as an invader in a foreign land! Here's $30k a year for your trouble and skills that will never be useful in productive endeavors!

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 10:07 | 5017416 Schizofrantic Squonk
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Plus, it's a "Global Force for  Doubleplusgood"!TM

That's what the telescreen says, anyway.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:12 | 5015989 Anusocracy
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The US and Mini-US governments are good at targeting and killing others all over the world.

Perhaps some less favored countries should create death squads to randomly kill Americans overseas.

Turnabout is fair play.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:49 | 5019930 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Perhaps some less favored countries should create death squads to randomly kill Americans overseas.

But Vichy DC has been doing that for years already. Gotta keep the public's fear churnin' to keep the War on Terra® wheel turnin'.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:37 | 5015823 Aussie V
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We all know here who is to blame.


What we need to know is, How do we stop them from sending our kids and loved one's to fight in their new trumped up nuclear Vietnam War?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:07 | 5015962 Schizofrantic Squonk
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It's up to you not to heed the call up...

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 05:29 | 5016740 Aussiekiwi
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If its a nuclear war, cant we all just stay home?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 07:56 | 5016948 samsara
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If it is, don't worry, you'll be able to see it from your porch.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 07:53 | 5016940 basho
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you may not have to. i think this one is going to take place in your own back yard. the ussa isn't going to get a pass on destruction this time.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:41 | 5015843 grunk
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Guns of July.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:45 | 5015864 MASTER OF UNIVERSE

Yankie doodle dandy CIA, yippie!

Where is my prize?

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 22:47 | 5015875 besnook
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the best comparison to usa foreign policy behavior is israel foreign policy behavior, act crazy to disrupt the response of the opponent, create chaos as a means of controlling an opponent, kill when an opponent is noncompliant or just to send a message that crazy people are running the show.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:53 | 5016708 Joenobody12
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Sadly for the rest of us, US foreign policy and Israel foreign policy are one of the same. I suspect those under Obama somtimes forget (or dont care) to disguise their acts.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 11:13 | 5017784 tvdog
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American Jews who serve in the Israeli army say they feel like "more patriotic" Americans for having done so. Israel = U.S. in their minds, perhaps in fact.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:10 | 5015914 Aquarius
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It appears stark and clear that the repulsive John Bolton aka as Bibi Netanyahu's "Butt Plug" is a paid for "anti-semite" like the rest of the "neocon" rabble, and Zionists that are reported proudly as micro managing (read: controlling/governing) the USA.

There is being reported a huge Global wave of anti-Jewish sentiment, expressed in social media, demonstrations, street marches and global free press (not MSM) which probably is representative of a Global trend even greater that the massacre of the Palestinian in Gaza. This uprising sadly targets the innocent Jewish Peoples of all Nations and is the direct result of Netanyahu's, the Knesset, the Zionist and neconon Anti-Semitic Policies for the World. One can hear them counting the profit in shekels. Remember the clammer against the Swiss Banks for the wealth of those destroyed in the Nazi Holocaust. - that was just the precursor.

Sadly it must be considered far more than probable that a new Holocaust has being strategized, or more likely, planned and initiated - over decades, that involve the final solution of the Jewish peoples and the reaping of their wealth by those few of Netanyahu's cult; the Anti-semitics. This cannot be tolerated.

Unfortunately Bibi Netanyahu and his Knesset cabel of Anti-Semitics, is intent of drawing the World's displeasure (down upon the Jewish Peoples of the World) by expressing the total Genocide of the Palestinian peoples in Gaza, not as an act of War, or even self-defencse, but as the sport of Cage-Hunting" where they hunt those within the fences - there is no place to hide and no way to escape. Netanyahu's policies have attracted many Americans and other to join the hunt and Kill. These Zionsits claim for themselves, the most intelligent beings on the planet award - make no mistake, the strategy is clear and precise. Total annihilation.

What else could initiate the greatest Global Holocaust against the Jewish Peoples? Remember, these madmen are super-intellegent by their own admission - as well as many outsiders.

As Netanyahu, his Zionist clique and the crazed "neocons" raises Global sentiment against the Jewish Peoples, mostly whom are totally innocent of any crimes against humanity, unsuspectingly driven to hysterea by Zionist Propaganda and unsuspecting of the real motives as to their intended destiny, - by increasing the vile, brutal and, inhuman murder of Palestinian women and children and by attracting the most globally corrupt and murderous sociopaths to their Cause, the true "Anti-Semitic" policy of Israel is sadly realized: this being a Global Holocaust against the Jewish Peoples of the world.

Indeed: Zionism, represented by the "neocons" and the Israeli leadership, are truly the most powerful Anti-Semitic.force on the Planet today.

It is clear that this Anti-Semitic Policy of the Neocons, et al, is driving the Ukrainian events, the downing of Malaysian commercial aircraft, Syria, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Iran,Afghanistan, etc. The Totalitarian government control of the Banking system and Hence the control of all the monies (fiat and specie) of all nation, by this Anti-Semitic cult.

False Myths, makes fools of all those that wallow in the Blood Sacrifice of others. 

"All that needs to be said, has been said." Pallas Athena

Ho hum


Tue, 07/29/2014 - 05:40 | 5016754 Frankie Carbone
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Never trust a guy with the Eye of Horus as his avatar because it suggests one of two things: You don't know what it symbolizes, or worse, you do know what it symbolizes. 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 11:23 | 5017829 tvdog
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There is no doubt that Israel is a heavily propagandized country, its people raised to believe in falsehoods convenient for their masters. Equally, there is no doubt that the Ashkenazi run the country, to the detriment of the Sephardim and Mizrahi Jews. Israel has the highest rate of income inequality in the developed world, but the government has no money for the poor living in the slums of Tel Aviv or the poverty-stricken communities of Galilee - all goes to building new settlements on Palestinian land, heavily subsidized, and, of course, the security state apparatus. It is no accident that many settlers are recent immigrants. The only way for many to afford housing in Israel is to live in a settlement and get subsidized housing.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:07 | 5015963 nostromo17
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I'm sure none of this has anything to do with Russian gas pipelines running through Ukraine...

First we let BP off the hook with an 'insignificant' fine after destroying much of the Gulf of Mexico

and now we let American and EU energy interests steer us into war. We want Putin unpiped so we are screwing

with Ukraine, South Ossetia...IRAQ, LIBYA...Israel wants Palestinian Gas in the Mediterranean.

Band of theives pure and simple.

Maybe a good old fashion set of Russian purge trials EAST & WEST can fix this improper use

of power and resources by GARCHs.



Tue, 07/29/2014 - 11:57 | 5017996 Farqued Up
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Destroyed the Gulf? Surely, you aren't that brainwashed

They have critters that eat that shit 24-7 and for snacks they eat mercury. That's right, bacteria and viruses eat mercury.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:08 | 5015972 robertocarlos
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Pat Buchanan rocks! And I ain't even a Xtian.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:13 | 5015995 Rootin' for Putin
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To selectively quote Mark Knopfler:

'they wanna have a war to keep us on our knees

They're pointing out the enemy to keep you deaf and blind
They wanna sap your energy incarcerate your mind

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 00:55 | 5016356 Rock On Roger
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That song has been in my head all day.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 04:03 | 5016656 August
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"War is when the government tells you who the enemy is.

Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself."

-  Anonymous ZHer

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:19 | 5016025 MountainMan
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On another note, sell CL on a pit open below 100.88 for a final move to a break of 100, then get long for a real moonshot.


Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:37 | 5016089 palmereldritch
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  But what motivates those on our side who seek every opportunity to restart the Cold War?

The motivation is, at the very least,  a resurrection of the false left-right Hegellian dialectic that fueled a never ending military escalation and so enriched the MIC, Wall Street and the City of London at the expense of human liberty, world peace and future security.....and so accurately analysed and chronicled by the works of Antony Sutton...


Tue, 07/29/2014 - 06:15 | 5016797 blindman
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the truth.

Mon, 07/28/2014 - 23:39 | 5016092 TeraByte
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US financial institutions almost single handed screwed the entire planet´s economy and now we have to agitate a major war for them to escape from consequences. Royal families and aristocracy tried to protect their privileges similarly hundred years ago, but when the dust settled not many of them were left.  Self-proclaimed moral high ground and high tech are inefficient weaponry against a strongly motivated foe as a track record since the Vietnam War shows. You bomb places back to the Middle Ages, but you don´t have guts on the ground.  When causalities start accumulating you pack your things and leave and it is NATO countries´ battle moral doctrine, which their enemies can count on.




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