Behold The New Normal Definition Of "Confidence"

Tyler Durden's picture

While headlines are flashing red about how exuberant the consumer is, there appears to be some 'new normal' oddness under the covers. Projecting this positive news into the future (as every talking-head is) does not add up with the fact that "plans to buy a car" and "plans to buy a major appliance" both tumbled in July. But the biggest problem for the 'recovery', "plans to buy a home" collapsed to its lowest since Feb 2013... welcome to the new normal definition of confidence.



Is it any wonder when 77 million Americans have debt past due...!


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LawsofPhysics's picture

Please it's a rentier society.  It has been for quite some time and your owners are demanding another pound of flesh.  Now, pay the fuck up.

wallstreetaposteriori's picture

Maybe they didn't understand the survey...  they must be confident that they are NOT going to purchase any of these items because shit is so bad for them... and they are confident that they will get food stamps and obamaphones.

NoDebt's picture

Dow's up 65.  Let's re-run the survey.  I'm suddenly feeling more confident.

SheepDog-One's picture

Somebody dumped that pump rather quickly.

Bananamerican's picture

How's that "plans to join the army" component lookin?

Eireann go Brach's picture

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So if home prices dip just 12%, suddenly all these homes are upside down! We all know how this will end for this company.


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sessinpo's picture

LawsofPhysics    Please it's a rentier society.  It has been for quite some time and your owners are demanding another pound of flesh.  Now, pay the fuck up.


Not only that, but that land was stolen. They should be bombarded with rocket fire.

PlusTic's picture

They don't even pretend they're not making this shitt up's all just upfront and blatant fabrication

rbianco3's picture

Exactly. It's as if they are trying to paint the (gold/silver) chart or something, worried we might stay above the 200 MA.  I wish I had a bazillion dollars like the Fed and I'd buy a couple train cars full of gold and silver.

SoilMyselfRotten's picture

If anyone buys a home now they'lll be the dip

PartysOver's picture

Sad part is the low information crowd will believe this colossal crock of simmer'n cow crap.

Dr. Engali's picture

No they don't. No matter what kind of propaganda they put out there, Americans aren't buying it. The only people who buy it are the 35% of people who support Zero no matter what he does.

SoilMyselfRotten's picture

Agreed and thats how i felt about the 35% who thought Shrub was a great prez. Let's hope the remaining 30% have their wits about them and have escaped the false left/right paradigm.

agstacks's picture

never sign a contract with a guy named Shylock.

Sudden Debt's picture

But who's to say what they'll be doing in 7 months from now,


Ms. Erable's picture

Where's the entry that measures whether one plans to buy more gold and silver? Confidence spike, bitchez!

Bananamerican's picture

Amerika is the most assfluent society in the history of man

NoDebt's picture

I want to see the answer to "plans to move out of parents' basement in the next 6 months".  Or "plans to pay off student loans in the next 6 months."  Or "plans to get out of debt collection in the next 6 months."

Those would be your leading indicators.  Nothing else happens downstream until those start to tick up.


olle's picture

"Plan to buy a gun and arm myself" will that be a ´click´ for more confidence....???

êdit: spelling

Itchy and Scratchy's picture

Sounds like lots of peeps are confident they ain't payin' their IOU's back?

mayhem_korner's picture



Normalcy bias has people convinced there is more upside than down from where they sit.

When you hit rock bottom, there's only two ways to go - straight up or sideways.  Wynonna Judd


Winston Churchill's picture

Just like walking into a bar, there is nothing like starting at the bottom,

and working your way down.

oklaboy's picture

how about the  " plan to get a full time job" catagory?

Thomas Aquinas's picture

Another demonstration of the increasing power of the apparatus of the US Govt Ministry of Disinformation

Hindenburg...Oh Man's picture

Confident that my gold with be worth a lot more in 7 mos. is that a category?

John Law Lives's picture

"While headlines are flashing red about how exuberant the consumer is,..."

Be careful, man.  Keep telling the truth like this and you may have a close encounter with a drone...


orangegeek's picture

instead of a "plans to buy a home" survey, how about a survey about "plans to hang yourself"?


bet you get some interesting results there

Pemaquid's picture

Anyone placing confidence in survey results needs their head examined. I have never been a survey respondent, nor anyone I know. Most people today are like me in that telephone calls from unknown callers are never answered. And besides, who would want to spend time answering foolish questions?

youngman's picture

So this time are they going to be held liable if they default...or will it be the big bad banks just pulling the wool over their eyes with these nasty loans and be forgiven...

SheepDog-One's picture

Gee, all that unveiling of great news and stawks seem to hate it? Shucks.

Agent P's picture

Islamist militants are taking over Mesopotamia, the Israelis are leveling Gaza, Russia is warring with former Soviet Bloc countries, Ebola is spreading in Africa, foreign commercial flights are disappearing/crashing/being shot, what's going on here at home?  iPhone 6 is coming out!!!  I guess confidence is relative. 


passenger_pidgin's picture

I'm confident that things will continue to get worse.

MickV's picture

The Progressives and Fellow Travelers alway like to change the meaning of words!

War is Peace

Freedom is Slavery

The War to end Wars

a citizen at birth is a natural born Citizen

Marriage is between 2 people of the same gender

Invasion at the border is diversity

Paying taxes is patriotic

Confidence is.....

Chuck Knoblauch's picture

It is what ever they tell you it is.

I learned that 10 years ago.

Burticus's picture

Yes, debt serfdom makes is impossible to own a home, since real estate always comes with a parasite attached and you can't more it or hide it from parasites and bottom-feeders.

Good thing the (not really) Federal (with no) Reserve and their enabling elephant/jackass sock puppets gave trillions of FeRNs to the banks, so they could foreclose on millions of 'murkin debt slaves.

NegativelyBiasedCredulity's picture

agnotologic capitalism

Eyeroller's picture

MAYBE people are 'confident' about the future because things are SO BAD now, that they reckon things can't get any worse, therefore there must be improvement ahead.