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Boots On The Ground In Ukraine: "I Needed To See This For Myself"

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Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,

Looking back over the past ten years, I can’t even begin to describe all the experiences I’ve had in Ukraine.

For a while, I actually owned a business based here. I’ve been travelling here frequently for years. I still have many friends here. Some of our employees are based here. And Kiev is one of the cities in the world that I know best.

Yet even after all of that, I still can’t make heads or tails of this place.

Consider this: by 2004, people in Ukraine were desperate from economic hardship and de facto mafia rule.

They held a runoff election in November of that year– an illusion of choice– between Viktor Yanukovich and Viktor Yushenko. Yushenko was viewed as the breath of fresh air. The ‘change’ candidate.

And when it became clear that Yanukovich had rigged the election in his favor, people went out into the streets to demand change.

They called it the Orange Revolution. And it ended after two months of bloodshed when Yushenko, the ‘good guy’ was finally sworn in as president. Happy days were to follow. Hope and change, all that jazz.

Fast forward a few years.

By 2010, Yushenko had proven himself to be an utter disappointment. Corrupt. Incompetent. Out of touch. When he ran for re-election that year, President Yushenko garnered a pitiful 5% of the vote.

This is amazing when you think about it: the candidate that the people of Ukraine went out into the streets and spilled their blood for received just 5% of the votes in his re-election.

So who did the people elect that year? Viktor Yanukovich… the very person they had fought against in 2005.

Yanukovich was a known criminal. Literally, a convicted felon. Ukrainians spilled their blood fighting against him in 2004… then elected him President in 2010.

Unsurprisingly Mr. Yanukovich spent the next several years pillaging the country of every possible resource for his own benefit. And a few years later– revolution #2.

People went back out in the streets to fight against government forces and oust Yanukovich. Since then, the currency has tanked. Banks are nearly insolvent. GDP is falling. And there’s insurrection in the East.

Now they have a new President– a chocolate billionaire who formerly sat on the executive council of the Ukrainian central bank. And he’s mobilizing the entire country to fight the rebels, fight the Russians.

People are forced into serving in the very same government forces they were fighting against just months ago, all to re-annex a region of the country that isn’t even of Ukrainian ethnicity.

The entire world is getting involved now. With the downing of MH-17, it has become impossible to stay neutral… and the US in particular is doing everything it can to escalate the situation.

Actions have consequences.

And just as the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand 100 years ago led politicians to make a series of pitiful, short-sighted decisions that led the world into the most destructive war it had ever seen, today’s ‘leaders’ are raising the stakes towards an even more destructive kind of war.

This new kind of war is fought with bits and bonds rather than steel. But it’s one that affects almost everyone on the planet.

Change is very clearly afoot. And it’s time to start paying very close attention to the canary in the coalmine.

Just as I was in Iraq a few weeks ago to see the ISIS mess for myself, I had to come back to Ukraine and see what’s happening with my own eyes.

Join me in our newest podcast episode to explore this further– what to watch out for, how it may unfold, and what you can do about it:

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Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:09 | 5019582 Spitzer
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If we like it or not, the fuckface asshole cocksuckers and the petrodollar are winning.

Merkle threw in the towl..

Putin, its your move next.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:12 | 5019587 strannick
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A fricking gargoyle like John McCain, or an aspiring political hack like Mike Rogers are going to bang the drums of war, and paste the media with their vicious mugs as they clamour for war, to kill the young and bomb the innoncent.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:13 | 5019589 svayambhu108
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Boots in the ass, Kazachok

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:16 | 5019593 hedgeless_horseman
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Meaningless distractions, Simon. 

It's all about cheap and reliable gas for Europeans.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:20 | 5019618 Atomizer
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Regarding the gas issues, pull my finger. Limited distribution gas chain at your service.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:23 | 5019631 Jackagain
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Watch that Mexican food LB ;-)

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:27 | 5019641 Atomizer
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Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:31 | 5019657 max2205
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You are stupid or a brave fucking soul.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:50 | 5019732 TahoeBilly2012
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"This new kind of war is fought with bits and bonds rather than steel. But it’s one that affects almost everyone on the planet."

Gee Simon for all your courageous world beating travel, I would think you might say something smarter than this. Go ask the women and children in Donbass whether it's a "digital" battlefield.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:33 | 5020663 BOPOH
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Guy is just a typical american embecil full with american syndrome shit. Masturbate publically is their favorite activity.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:21 | 5019624 Jackagain
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They don't care about NG that's always the Dollar. Just like in Iraq (Saddam selling oil for Euros), Libya (Ghaddfi starting a gold backed Dinar)...

Look at the date of these articles:

Coincidence? The US has mega NG...we would be happy to sell it to Europe as LNG.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:30 | 5019637 ZerOhead
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1) We don't have a much NG as we think we have.

2) They will freeze in hell long before we can liquify and ship it to them.

3) Selling will decrease our own supply and run our heating and elecrticity prices through the roof.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:35 | 5019666 Jackagain
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The USA doesn't go to war with Russia over NG...and risk another large scale war in Europe to boot over anything other than the Dollar.

It's a free printing press system better than a money tree...they don't have to wait. If the US loses dollar hedgemony, the value of the dollar will crash and people will vote everyone out.

It's about power and money...

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:44 | 5019681 ZerOhead
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4)  Biden Jr. isn't over there to frack for dollars.


The battle is for control OVER Europe and the economic and political isolation of Russia.

(The Europeans are just too dumb (or compromised) to figure it out yet.)

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:51 | 5019731 Chupacabra-322
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But wait, the plot thickens:

The Ukrainian government intends to introduce a temporary 1.5% military duty, which will be an addition to the personal income tax.

Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatseniuk told a briefing on Monday the duty, if introduced, will stay in effect until the end of this year.

“There will be another temporary tax, a 1.5% military duty, which will be an addition to the personal income tax. It will only be until the end of this year. This 1.5% will go directly to the Armed Forces,” he said.

The Ukrainian Finance Ministry estimates that the introduction of this military duty will help accumulate UAH 2.9 billion, which will be used for financing the defense sector.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:57 | 5019750 Not Too Important
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Has anyone noticed an increase in strange behaviours in the general public lately? Within the last week or two. It seems like most people are in some kind of low-level panic, and don't look like they would be able to explain why.

Kind of like animals panicking before an earthquake. I don't know if they know why, they just do.

Worse than I've ever seen in my fairly long life. Very weird.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:03 | 5019775 ZerOhead
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On a new prescription perhaps?

The heads are still down on the oblivious herds of MSM grazing sheeple that I'm looking at...

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:33 | 5020333 Taku
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Temporary tax.

Sounds familiar...

Nah, must be a 2014 thing.


Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:10 | 5020829 7.62x54r
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like the Spanish-American War telephone tax?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:09 | 5019807 Seek_Truth
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Simple: They can no longer afford their SSRI meds.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:34 | 5019891 BlindMonkey
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I feel it too. Folks are nervous.

Personally I know I have the same, ever present sense of dread I had in the summer of '08. I feel it coming.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 10:40 | 5022505 BigJim
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It's called paranoia. If we didn't have it, we wouldn't be here reading about this shit.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:27 | 5020347 scrappy
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Even Sheep have instincts.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:32 | 5020375 potato
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chill... EBT gets refilled on the 3rd

stay away from grocery stores and freeways for the following two weeks and you'll be fine.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:38 | 5020400 acetinker
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I dunno if you ascribe to woo-woo stuff at all, but here goes;  Just over a year and a half ago, the Mayan Long Count restarted, and we're also in the middle of Strauss & Howe's theoretical 'fourth turning', which is based on earthly historical observation.  The Mayans based their calendar on astrology, and were somehow able to discern that solar system cycles repeat at roughly 26,000 year intervals.  Strauss and Howe's cycles are much shorter- 80 years if I recall.

But to answer your question, yes.  I don't feel at ease in any way, shape or form (I do spend a lot of time at doom porn sites ;).

My wife of damn-near 37 years has become dismissive to the point of disdain, and my business associates seem to view the near future with a fair amount of trepidation.

Good times, I tell ya'!  Good times!

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:00 | 5019762 ZerOhead
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Sweet Jesus...

They can't even pay the interest on the debt they already owe for the European bank loan money that was stolen by their oligarch leaders.

Now another tax on the serfs. I wonder how those cold showers in Kiev are going to feel in December...

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:37 | 5019896 BlindMonkey
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Most likely quite invigorating.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:35 | 5019662 Escrava Isaura
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US is a net gas importer

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:44 | 5019694 Jackagain
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US NG production in Bakken, Marcellus, Eagle Ford, Haynesville Shale etc. is in it's infancy.

It's wouldn't matter if we imported 100% of our NG...we aren't going to war with a nuclear power like Russia over anything but the Dollar.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:18 | 5019835 Escrava Isaura
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Not sure the meaning of infancy… So I will go with most won't hit preschool.

You last paragraph is right. And here is why:

The international market gave the U.S. unprecedented freedom of action in pursuing its foreign affairs goals. A trade surplus made it easier to keep armies abroad and to invest outside the U.S., and because other nations could not sustain foreign deployments, the U.S. had the power to decide why, when and how to intervene in global crises. The dollar continued to function as a compass to guide the health of the world economy, and exporting to the U.S. became the primary economic goal of developing or redeveloping economies. This arrangement came to be referred to as the Pax Americana, in analogy to the Pax Britannica of the late 19th century and the Pax Romana of the first. (See Globalism)

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:30 | 5020357 potato
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All the Bakken NG is getting flared... very few pipes have been installed because all the wells are so far apart in middle of nowhere. they could have completed a NG refinery recently, but still, building infrastructure to deliver gas to it is very costly

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:44 | 5020719 Escrava Isaura
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I had given up. These people never heard of “The Oil Drum” and “The Peak Oil Barrel” analyses on energy.


Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:35 | 5019668 CrashisOptimistic
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Gas and oil not mentioned in the article.  How useful can it be?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:38 | 5019682 Escrava Isaura
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So what do you make of gold?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:04 | 5019981 COSMOS
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So what do you make of dumb questions?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:55 | 5020178 Escrava Isaura
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Actually, my intent was to get a negative response on gold by Crash.

Then, go from there.

It didn't work the way I expected!

So dumb it is!

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 01:59 | 5021373 adeptish
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Esc Is

The bold is getting old...

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:16 | 5019597 Deathrips
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Germany will be using Russian gas to BBQ Merkles traitor ass come December.



Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:58 | 5019758 Not Too Important
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She hasn't completely folded yet. But they're cleaning the grill, just in case.

Very interesting, her comment about not committing suicide. Like she has a choice.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:39 | 5020404 Taku
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This would get interesting.

Now what is a good anchor to peg to??


Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:22 | 5019611 Reptil
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huh? what are you talking about?
the sanctions? they're toothless, obviously. (too many exemptions)

Merkel is playing it very quiet, and so is Putin.
Kiev's army is disintegrating. Shelling with SS-21 heavy artillery (ballistic missile) is a desperate attempt to inflict damage (on civillians, which is tactically worthless) while not engaging the enemy.
A few more days and they're in muitiny and will come home, very pissed. To find IMF austerity and total corruption.

True, this whole thing is played out as propaganda war, as diplomatic "negotiations" but in order to secure an area, a fresh supply of soldiers/cannonfodder is needed.
And that's just not going to happen.

Anyone in Malaysia want to check this out and please post if it's true??

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:37 | 5019679 john39
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how much money can the zio oligarchs print for foreign mercs?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:06 | 5019825 cowdiddly
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I don't know, but they better get to printing some more. And, just so Simon will know ahead of time.

3 month Tally  announced as of today.

330 dead identified to be foreign mercenaries inside Ukraine.

Polish supplied Mercs: 139 dead

Greystone supplied: 40 pushin up daisies

Academi: 125 into the meatgrinder

And, 1 Swedish sniper who apparently just thought it would be a cool place to go shoot people. Captured. I hope he has a pair of jumper cables on his nut sack with a Diehardtm battry.

Oh, and yesterday, 4 tanks and a few armored vehicles destroyed near border, opened up the hatch, and inside?: Low and behold. 4 Deep black Taters. Not the high yeller kind like Obama, but genywine Missisippi blue gum genotype Cossacks.

DAZ RAYCIS I Know, But is'nt this what this is about? Ethnic cleansing of those damn subhumansz?

For some reason I get the feeling contract cost are going to go up. Lots of job openings.

Now Boeing wants to sent 700 armed special forces from the Netherlands I believe  to "inspect the crash site". Come on in the waters fine! Still a few old folks homes and Kindergartens to take out.

Could not happen to a better bunch of guys

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:41 | 5020152 Not Too Important
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I wish you had supplied a link, but probably close enough.

Who in their right mind would think they could tackle the Russians on their own doorstep? Especially since the only thing the Ukes/mercs are good at so far is killing women and children. This isn't going unnoticed across the Eastern world. Beyond Ukraine, everyone wonders who's next. Malaysia has clearly chosen a side. We know where China stands. Wait till Russia sends in Chinese peacekeepers. No reason to wait for the UN. Flood Ukraine with millions of PLA, full lockdown, and set up a conference in Paris with Henry Kissinger.

Crazy shit.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:53 | 5020461 tbd108
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You are assuming that the neo-cons (Nazis) are in their right mind. They are not. They have publically disavowed MAD (mutually assured destruction) and believe they can "win" a nuclear war (they are probably estimating only 20/30 million deaths. They are crazy, sociopathic devils.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:15 | 5020847 7.62x54r
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Those Academi pukes are going to get their asses handed to them.

Russians actually aim their weapons instead of holding down the bang-switch, shrugging, and saying "Insh'Allah". Afghanistan on steroids. And drones don't work when the opfor is techie enough to jam the fuckers.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:18 | 5020862 tbd108
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We can only hope.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 01:22 | 5021315 Kirk2NCC1701
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cowdiddly, about your avatar... it looks like Latina Lover's avatar cloned itself.  :-)

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 10:51 | 5022550 BigJim
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The only link to this info I can find is here:

maybe it's legit, maybe it's just another drop of misinformation in an ocean of lies.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:07 | 5019798 Not Too Important
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That Malaysia Airlines article is damning. It should have its' own article here on ZH.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:48 | 5020174 JohninMK
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Yes but there is little new in it apart from the Malaysians holding the Ukrainians to blame, which is a bit obvious really as the Ukrainians had the legal responsibility whilst MH17 was in their airspace. They are the ones to sue.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:20 | 5019615 Carpenter1
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They are? Germany is reliant on Russia for 40% of its energy and China just contracted to rely on Russia as well. That means we have a German/Chinese/Russian axis of power, because no country chooses an enemy as it's source of energy.
Doing so would mean they have less energy to fight a war with, so these energy deals are in fact alliance deals. The new powers are already cast in stone and the US is not on the club, now all we do is watch it play out.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:52 | 5019736 toady
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It's certainly playing out that way. The U.S. is gonna be shocked, SHOCKED!, when Germany, then the rest of eastern Europe side with Russia.

It's crazy to think, but it looks like another land war in Europe.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:20 | 5019620 Sudden Debt
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If they want war, it's as good as certain you're kids will be on a plane singing patriotic songs underway of the fight.

On the 21th, we had a natioanl holliday where we have a militairy parade in the capital....
All troops march by... We don't really have a big army, I know at, BUT WE HAVE ONLY 4 TANKS!!! WE SOLD ALL THE REST TO AFRICA BECAUSE WE DIDN'T NEED ANY!!!!
It was like watching a parade through history when our militairy passed by!

I was like... Oh my god... We are seriously underprepared.... What if...well... If what if happens, I'm on the first plane out of here!

Europe has a serious militairy problem. The lack off.
We saved money on it during the last decade and just scrapped everything!
And our average soldiers age? 48!!!!!

It was like watching monthy pyrhon.. My god...
And the fact our soldiers marched by WITH WOODEN GUNS wasn't giving me any hope either...

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:26 | 5019638 Sudden Debt
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This is our proud army during the parade....

And yes... That is almost every single soldier we have and every piece of material....

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:32 | 5019659 Escrava Isaura
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Sudden Debt,

Are you always this entertaining?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:43 | 5019697 Sudden Debt
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Well, I can't keep my mouth shut for more than 5 minutes in a row because than I get bored :)
I once had a boss telling me: "if I'd put a hat on a dog, you'd talk to it all day!"
And well... That's true :)

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 08:56 | 5021964 Xandrino
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Wel our Prime Minister said he actually considered military force in Ukraine...We have 5 tanks and have been waiting for the JSF for god knows how long...billions gone and we ain't got shit...


Thank god we're neighbors :P

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:24 | 5020329 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Even tho you guys sold the tanks, at least you have the horses and the big hats!

[channeling that Billy Crystal character Fernando: "You look mahvelous."]

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:36 | 5019670 Reptil
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I noticed a whole bunch of anti riot/insurrection vehicles

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:47 | 5019715 Sudden Debt
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It's europe, we have our daily protest marches as we have brussels just for about everything and sometimes they get violent. Very violent :)

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:43 | 5019699 SpanishGoop
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I liked the soldier in the red dress and high heels.

Let her invade me.


Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:52 | 5019727 deflator
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 What about all of those "other" weapons of mass destruction Belgium has been accumulating in the form of UST's?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:24 | 5020886 7.62x54r
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They bought them with ZIRP loans, so it ain't going to be a Belgian problem.

No interest on the loans to buy them means they just get free t-bond interest, and use the roll-over to pay the ZIRP loans off. The Fed and the US treasury is simply using Belgian shadowbankers as a stealth-QE toilet to store this toxic sludge the Russians got rid off.

When the fuckers roll over, the FRNs created out of thin air to buy them will all come back to the US to roost.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:56 | 5019749 r00t61
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Rather ironic that the solders on parade are armed mostly with lances and such, considering that Belgium is home to FN Herstal, the largest exporter of small arms in Europe, makers of some widely-recognized weapons like the FAL and the SCAR.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:07 | 5019797 Kalevi
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That's serious hardware when fighting Luxenbourg.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:42 | 5020157 Tapeworm
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Your lancers should be able to hold off mechanised forces. Actually my old military school has a larger cavalry than yours and we would kick your ass. At least every one of us were issued an M-1 Garand.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 00:34 | 5021263 angel_of_joy
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For such a small army you sure seem to have a lot of uniforms... And, there's no need to worry about tanks as long as you have cavalry. Just ask the Poles... I also noticed that you have quite a few helicopters. I counted 4, each of a different type... probably same rules applies as for the uniforms.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 10:55 | 5022574 BigJim
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Geez, it's called 'strength in depth'. dude.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:28 | 5019646 Reptil
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Yeah, the regular, standing army has been gutted here, the top brass replaced by political cronies (politicians suddenly were "generals and majors" LOL.
Nevertheless the budget has not shrunk. the canard Joint Strike Fighter and other high tech projects have seen to that.

What is the reason? I'm fairly sure that the Eurofiles were gambling on a Euroforce army, and still are, and that armies of souverign nations will be a hindrance towards the end when the TTIP enslavement will start in earnest.

Imagine an army protecting it's citizens from corporate mercenaries (as is happening in the Ukraine right now) in europe itself??????
can't have that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God I hope ppl. are going to wake up. saves me moving to another continent halfway across the world, with all my stuff.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:46 | 5019714 Dr. Engali
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They don't need an army because the U.S provides for their protection. Not that I'm bragging, I think it sucks, but it's a fact. I'm sure it helps keep the peace in Europe if there are no large standing armies.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:11 | 5019814 Not Too Important
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Yeah, but the US military replaced most of their brass lately, too, and I'm sure the requirements for their replacements were pretty low.

Question #1.  How do you look in a blue helmet?

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 11:00 | 5022606 BigJim
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Even during an existential war, the military is the largest potential source of grift in a polity. Politicians making purchasing decisions in secret? No-bid contracts? Monopoly suppliers? I mean, what could go wrong?

During peacetime, and with an all-powerful protector guarding you with a nuclear umbrella, it's just begging to become one great big kleptofrenzy.

Thieves abhore a vacuum.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:14 | 5020031 Grouchy Marx
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No peace in Greece.

There will be no peace elsewhere once the ponzi scheme collapses.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:45 | 5020944 7.62x54r
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Sell your stuff now.

Buy metal and stack it in your target haven.

Have a residency visa or second passport ready.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:27 | 5019643 zorba THE GREEK
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I wish The U.S. would stop meddling in every other countries affairs and pay some attention

to mess they have neglected at home. Every country has the government they deserve.


Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:24 | 5019858 Keyser
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Nah, they are too busy sticking their nose into other people's business while the house burns down at home... 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:34 | 5019661 Anarchy 99
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merkel on the way out, will not get re elected

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:41 | 5019688 Youri Carma
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Maybe in your wildest dreams, gay boy.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:48 | 5019723 Escrava Isaura
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You said "cocksuckers and the petrodollar are winning."

Not for very long!

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:50 | 5020754 realWhiteNight123129
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They are winning the right to burn themselves alive while chanting like decrebrated fools. Bush was "winning" until 2004. The cost and disastrous consequences of Irak for the US will look like a picnic in comparison to force Russia to price oil and gas in another currency. Those politicians do not have the slighest clue as of why the USD has any value left. Currency is backed by credit. Fed carries crap on its balance sheet. Consumers drown in debt, Gov is bankrupt and corporations have too  much . In aggregat? the domestic credit of US is utter crap. The only good credit backing USD is external, i.é. world trade... Remove that and you are sawing the branch you are sitting on... fucking retard politicians...

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:48 | 5020960 Freddie
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Simon Black and all these newsletter Stansberry/Agora guys are all on the "we hate Putin" bandwagon.   They are all fans of NWO and spooks plus Neocons.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:12 | 5019588 BaghdadBob
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I've got a great idea. Unhitch Israel and the USA and let them drift off into space. They can head towards Mars and settle back down there. Then they can bomb, destabilise and sanction to their hearts content without affecting the rest of humanity. This world would then instantly be a better place. We might even have some proper peace for a change.....

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:37 | 5019674 Bunghole
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I like Zip and his site, but if you think it's not the same zionist propaganda the other websites spew, you're sadly mistaken.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:11 | 5019819 Not Too Important
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Pick and choose wisely, young grasshopper.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:56 | 5019734 Escrava Isaura
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Listen to Jackagain's point.

Anyway, you said "Israel and the USA drift off into space."

It ain’t gonna happen. But consider this:

“When I asked Pentagon officials about the nature of war in the twenty-first century, the answer I frequently got was: Read Martin van Creveld of Hebrew University in Jerusalem…,

Not because these top brass are enamored of this historian or not because his writing justify their existence but, rather, the opposite: Van Creveld warns them that huge state military machines like Pentagon’s are dinosaurs about to go extinct, and that something far more terrible awaits us” -- Robert Kaplan

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:07 | 5020004 Grouchy Marx
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Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:57 | 5020060 COSMOS
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I just watch Seinfeld for all my information on world matters, isn't he really the same as the Israeli university dude lol <sarc>

Dude talk about self promotion, a guy by the name of Robert Kaplan telling me to go listen or read up about what a guy at Hebrew University thinks cause its spot on analysis, come on.  Id rather get my analysis from Press TV or Al Jazeera than some self promoting thugs, criminals, and murderers that are leading the world to destruction.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:28 | 5020342 Escrava Isaura
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You let your madness gets the best of you, girlfriend.

The quote said Pentagon, Hebrew, and Kaplan's name.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:54 | 5020198 Escrava Isaura
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Grouchy Marx,

I just Googled the quote!

The Coming Anarchy

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 11:08 | 5022660 BigJim
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 When I asked Pentagon officials about the nature of war in the twenty-first century, the answer I frequently got was "Read Van Creveld." The top brass are enamored of this historian not because his writings justify their existence but, rather, the opposite: Van Creveld warns them that huge state military machines like the Pentagon's are dinosaurs about to go extinct, and that something far more terrible awaits us.

Yeah, maybe that's the bit of Van Creveld they were referring to. Or maybe it was this:

We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.[29]

Don't you just love Zionists? If the Arabs manage to take back their land, what will the Israelis do? Go back to Poland and New York where they came from? No, they're gonna nuke us all out of spite.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:20 | 5019616 Neo
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ya, cause the only psychopaths in this world exist in the USA and Israel. Get a fucking clue, the next psycho is the same as the current one, which is the same as the last one.


Utopia is just around the corner if only we could get rid of __________ (insert currently fashionable group to hate)

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:36 | 5019669 Utah_Get_Me_2
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Useful Idiot Progressives.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:53 | 5019741 Utah_Get_Me_2
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To whoever down voted,

I wasn't aware it was politically fashionable to demonize useful idiot progressives. Last time I checked those that are 'reverant of individual liberty' were the ones labeled as terrorists, subversives and extremists. By a more dangerous and technologically superior regime than the Nazis.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:47 | 5020961 7.62x54r
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If you don't get at least one downvote, you aren't offensive enough for ZH.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 11:06 | 5022643 BigJim
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that was me :-)

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:37 | 5019675 Anarchy 99
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need to include london

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:14 | 5019596 Jackagain
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Another fine piece from Paul Craig Roberts:

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:16 | 5019598 disabledvet
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Meh. Just Nationalism that's all. Putin is "the invader" just as the Nazi's were. Don't agree with those who say Putin is Hitler...Hitler was a lot more dramatic and was really into...well, "the whole shebang." Putin is, well...Putin.


So bottom line "Putin hates losing and Ukraine wants their Crimea back."
Can't argue with that and doesn't sound like you need to be there to point it out.

Poroshenko is a bad ass I might add. That guy is not afraid of a bloody nose. Be interesting to see how far the West and it's various "elements" back this guy up.

So far President Putin has done probably the worst job ever in responding to the plane crash. "It's not the crime but the cover up." The guy comes across as heartless to folks who just happened to be passing through.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:29 | 5019651 Utah_Get_Me_2
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So Putin is the invader? What do you call the CIA 'advisors' commanding the Kiev junta neo-Nazi mercenaries? Peace-keepers? Poroshenko the chocolate king is a bad ass? Hahahaha. Dude you are fighting way outside your weight-class.. Above your pay grade if you will.

Speaking of pay grade.. You'd think by now the Deep State would be able to find/program/pay sock puppet shills who are bit more convincing.  

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:22 | 5020068 COSMOS
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Poroshenko is a bad ass I might add. That guy is not afraid of a bloody nose. Be interesting to see how far the West and it's various "elements" back this guy up.

LOL easy to be bad ass when you or your sons are not on the front line.  I am sure chocolate king is a real bad ass.  Real easy to be one when you can run off to Israel on your dual passport if things get too hot.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:17 | 5019602 SheepDog-One
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Sounds like the U.S. where we have 'our democratic choice' between Turd Sandwich and Giant Douche....enjoy all that freedom,serfs.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:29 | 5019645 Bugman82
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I'm sitting here with my iPad, drinking a nice glass of Malbec, and if I'm a serf I sure am enjoying it and want to stay a serf.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:46 | 5019713 Jackagain
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I've been holding out hope that they have a wine cellar and wifi at the FEMA camp...

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 22:51 | 5020976 7.62x54r
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Those are only for the guards. Tell them you are a schizophrenic Obama voter, and they will give you a uniform and an SSI disability pension.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:39 | 5019683 Bunghole
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+1 for the south park reference

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:18 | 5019607 Chupacabra-322
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Kiev forces fire ballistic missiles into E. Ukraine – CNN

“Three US officials confirmed to me a short time ago that US intelligence over the last 48 hours has monitored the firing of several short-range ballistic missiles from territory controlled by Ukraine government forces into areas controlled by the pro-Russian separatists,” Barbara Starr, CNN’s Pentagon correspondent, said in a live report.

Short-range ballistic missiles can carry warheads of up to 1,000 pounds (450 kg) and are capable of killing dozens of people at a time, Starr said.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:13 | 5019822 toady
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Anything like Saddam blindly throwing scuds towards Israel?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:41 | 5020154 JohninMK
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More like Hitler throwing V2s at London.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:44 | 5019851 Not Too Important
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"Dozens of people . . ."? They wouldn't waste the fuel for those low numbers. They're going for high casualty rate targets, probably schools, malls and hospitals, like the Israelis.

I wonder if the East Ukraine seccessionists aren't putting warheads on their rockets like the Palestinians. /sarc (Notice how there's no photos of anything the Palestinian rockets have blown up? Maybe one Israeli casualty? And they are some of the best Iranian designs? Something wrong with this picture)

The gloves are off.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:22 | 5019627 Aussie V
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Fuck em. I saw this coming from before Sochi.

They inspire me to write a new song..................


"All they are are Parasitic, Imbecilic, Capitalistic, Communistic, Paraletic, Opportunistic Pathetic C**ts....."


Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:31 | 5019656 alexcojones
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Simon Black, Bravely going where No Man has gone before.

Okay Simon, roll tape, quiet on the set, ACTION -!

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:34 | 5019664 swmnguy
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Stay thirsty, my friend Simon.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:26 | 5020087 COSMOS
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He can always drink some of the blood from the decapitated heads courtesy of ISIS, afterall he flew down there to get a closer look.  A true 007

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:23 | 5019855 Not Too Important
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Sort of like an Apollo landing?

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:38 | 5019677 Long-John-Silver
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Here's something those illegals coming to America may not know. They are subject to a draft during a national emergency. All men 18 to 25 in the USA regardless of legal status are required to sign up with Selective Service. The government is not trying to hide this fact. It's right there on the Selective Service website. When the shit hits the fan roving gangs of government agency employees will be rounding up men for the front lines.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:28 | 5019871 Not Too Important
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Research where Hitler got his Brown Shirts, or who really fought the Russian Revolution.

Thugs. Not 'idealistic revolutionaries'. Criminal psychopaths looking for heads to smash.

Coming to a theatre near you.

Anyone 'patriotic' will be sent to the front lines somewhere else. The Brown Shirts will remain here.

And that Baptist group in Texas running the illegals through wear brown shirts.

Coincidence? Just sayin' . . .

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:43 | 5019696 alexcojones
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Not sure what kind of person is Putin, few can say.

Do know Alexander Solshenitsyn met Putin, (Google Images), and both men are smiling with respect.

Solshenitsyn was one of the greatest writers of the 20th century, and a good judge of men. Better judge of men than the Nobel Committee.

So far, Putin has waited and let the Satanic west overplay its hand.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:45 | 5019706 Jackagain
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I heard he barfed when he met Obama....but it's just a rumor...

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:27 | 5020095 COSMOS
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Even when he was in a Gulag I am sure he loved his country and didnt want to see it enslaved by the IMF and dual citizen oligarchs.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:15 | 5019830 Ludwig Von
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That is worth 100 up votes !

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:20 | 5019845 Joe Tierney
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If Pootie had any lingering doubts about how greedy, evil and despicable Western leaders are (esp. U.S. leaders) then the whole Ukraine situation has resolved all such doubts. He's dealing with leaders who want only one thing - the destruction of him and Russia.


So this actually helps Pootinski to focus without distraction or hesitation on setting in motion Russia's continued and accelerated rise and at the same time the collapse of the dollar-centric world order. He knows if he and his partners can accomplish the destruction of the petrodollar then that old order will collapse like a bunch......of.......broccoli!


So from his standpoint this ongoing mess is actually a good thing - it clarifies and accelerates matters in Russia-China favor.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 23:06 | 5021031 Freddie
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Solshenitsyn and Putin to some extent shared the same experience.  Putin knows the history of Russia and knows the oligarch dual citizens were the same people behind the awful brutality of the USSR.  The same dual citizen types who locked people up and gulags and starved and murdered them.

He grew up in it and was part of it.  The oligarchs picked him to replace Yeltsin.  My guess is Putin was always fervently pro-Russian and he eventually turned on the oligarchs for the most part and from what we can tell.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:55 | 5019746 Goldilocks
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"We will follow the facts where they lead," - Kissinger
"We will manufacture the facts where they lead,"

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 17:58 | 5019757 americanspirit
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Step One - paralyze and distract already incompetent US security forces by sending 70,000 children across its southern border. Meanwhile slip several suitcase nukes across said border and into major US cities.

Step Two - paralyze and distract clueless Europe security forces by sending ebola carriers from West Africa to a dozen major EU cities "to visit relatives". Wait for panic and then slip suitcase nukes into EU capitals

Step three - detonate suitcase nuke offshore of Tel Aviv. Announce the EU and US cities on the nukem list. Promise immediate global detonation if Israel retaliates.

Step Four - present non-negotiable demands including withdrawl of all foreign interests and military assets from the Persian Gulf and total Israeli nuclear disarmament.

Total fiction of course - never could happen. US and EU governments are WAY too smart.


Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:03 | 5019771 Hannibal
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My take is this:

The US/ZioCons are setting up the EU for (economic?) war with Russia with the goal to breakup the EU and a t(c)rashed Euro. Russia being marginalized and the USDollar king of the hill, the scumbags think!

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:31 | 5019876 Not Too Important
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Break it all up into little pieces, then control the gang leaders.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:39 | 5019899 toady
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Worked in WWII. This time everyone has nukes.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:59 | 5020218 COSMOS
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Not everybody has a well built up network of Anti Ballistic missile defense.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:18 | 5020300 Not Too Important
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Russia went for numbers, the US went for quality. The Chinese went for numbers, but no telling how many they really have.

There aren't enough ABMs to shoot down all the Russian missiles. The Chinese seem to have the edge on killing satellites. Our planes are a mess.

We have more subs, but the Russians and Chinese have enough to kill the US and Europe.

MAD, I say, just MAD.

And Putin and Xi aren't going to blink. Period.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 05:40 | 5021596 Kawaii Empress ...
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Russian ABM and air defence is miles better than that which is available in the US. S-500 is being commissioned to take out ICBMs travelling at Mach 25+ with high G manouverable warheads. It will take a few years to get sufficient numbers in service but I think the latest developments may mean that they might be accelerated and produced on mass.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:03 | 5019778 Tenshin Headache
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Excellent. So was the podcast.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:10 | 5019810 Joe Tierney
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Well, some kind of feces is gonna hit the rotating air screw this year - just not sure what kind and how much and how far and wide it will splatter.


Will it be WWIII? Or World at War III? Either way, it's a mess. Too bad it won't be the politicians and banksters that get shit-faced.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:27 | 5019866 Jackagain
Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:11 | 5020276 SilverRhino
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That's some seriously fucked up information.    And some interesting points that need to be checked. 

Obama INCREASED the USA's nuclear budget???? 


Tue, 07/29/2014 - 21:35 | 5020676 acetinker
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I remember not long ago reading of a Chinese sub popping up in the middle of a USN drill in the Pacific just to say 'hi'.  Now, I'm hearing that Russia has similar silent subs in the Atlantic.  All media is bullshit, btw, but if there's any truth at all to the above, the piece you linked is just propagandistic pap.  While you're watching the air, you'll get your ass shot off from the sea.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:12 | 5019818 Fuku Ben
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Be sure to add philanthropist to your resume

Keep the home fires burning

Management is waiting for an update

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:31 | 5019878 q99x2
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How about some surgical strikes against the oligarchs that are bringing the end of the world. Let those fuckers kill themselves. Any oligarchs that survive Q99X2 will take to the famous pyramids on Q99X2. We've run out of people with over $10,000,000 to sacrifice and could use the business.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:51 | 5019934 gatorengineer
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Zerohedgers are continuing to slip.  This is just a smoke screen to keep Gaza off the front page.   Giving the Yews cover is all....  Will magically de-escalate right after israel withdraws.....


Carry on with your buying of SPOs

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:26 | 5020079 Boogity
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You may very well right.  Hell, the Gaza invasion and MH17 going down happened on the exact same FK'ing day.   What are the odds of that happening randomly?  Even if the Israelis took advantage of the MH17 crash as cover to launch their invasion, an operation that large and sophisticated couldn't just do a knee jerk reaction in a few hours to the random downing of a plane in another part of the world.  Even if they're ready to roll, they would need a day or two to get their ducks in a row.  

Gimmee a break.  Occam's Razor... The Israeli FK'ers were given a few days heads-up about MH17 and told to launch the attack on the same day MH17 was deliberately shot down (or at least purposely flown by Kiev ATC into a killing zone).  This ain't rocket science.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 18:53 | 5019941 tony wilson
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1. No limits to the Ukie warfare.
2. It is a War against Russia.
3. Time is on Kiev's side.
4. The Americans are militarizing and mobilizing all Ukraine against Russia.
5. After Donbass, Crimea is next.
6. Ukraine is an occupied territory of the America.
7. Europe is the next theatre of war. It is where America gains its biggest economic thrust and wealth-stealing.
8. China is the next big national target, using the same techniques and Japan and South Korea as levers.
9. Russia is the target now along the Ukraine border and Black Sea, also later with Europe as a wider theatre, the Baltic region, and finally, with China as the third region of war, the Far East and arctic.



Putin's economic advisor reveals the massive militarization of Ukraine,

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:11 | 5019973 Boogity
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IMO the conclusions of the speaker at the end of the Podcast were reasonable WRG to the future of the dollar.

Proper context and historical accuracy, however, were given short shrift by the Podcast speaker, especially WRG to what really happened at the Maidan.   The speaker dwelled almost obsessively on "innocent" well-intentioned young Ukrainian chicks being at the core of the Maidan and its overthrow of the government.   Gimmee a break...  Club wielding / molotav cocktail throwing and, in some cases, heavily-armed Right Sector goons, funded and trained by the USA/ EU, were the strongarms at Maidan.  This is well-documented by many eye witnesses who were there, as well as by even some western MSM video footage (e.g. BBC, etc.).  Whether government snipers or Right Sector snipers fired the fatal bullets that killed 70+ protestors / rioters is unknown because the current Kiev government squashed any chance of a third party independent investigation. 

WRG to proper historical context for the country currently known as "Ukraine", again the Podcast speaker botched it.   The link to this map says it all:

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:07 | 5020002 Magooo
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Here is what Ukraine is all about:



According to the OECD Economics Department and the International Monetary Fund Research Department, a sustained $10 per barrel increase in oil prices from $25 to $35 would result in the OECD as a whole losing 0.4% of GDP in the first and second years of higher prices.




THE PERFECT STORM (see p. 59 onwards)

The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel. 

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:27 | 5020088 JohninMK
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The problem is that the US Dollar is slowly going to lose its reserve currency status which will turn the US into the most heavily armed third world county with delusions of past grandure. This is compounded by very few people having the strategic vision to see it, they just see 'local' disputes round the world.

The US is not going there without a fight but if the rest of their current allies stand up for their own futures and their peoples, which may in the case of some like the UK be pretty bleak, it need not be WW3.

What the world really needs is for the BRICS countries to announce a defensive pact where an attack on one is an attack on all.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 19:50 | 5020183 JuliaS
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To the West Russia is a huge eyesore. Biggest country on the planet with probably the lowest population density. Huge reserves of untapped natural resources and frozen land up north that, if the globe warms up, will release even more arable and drillable land. Access to seas and claims to ocean floors that although not recognized by its rivals, are only easily accessible via Russia.

European immigrants discovered America few hundred years ago and ate right through the untouched riches, having virtualy devoured all that was good about it. Meanwhile, Russian land remained largely preserved and undisturbed.

Invasino of Russia is viewed almost as a discovery of new continent, and to make it morally convenient, Russians, just as the Native Indians, have to be portrayed as savages - sub humans worthy of liberation from the own possessions.

The only problem is that those "savages" have nukes, and precicely due to the vastness of Russia's territory make quick neutralization impossible.

The West relies on precision. Russian military might is raw brute force. Warheads with dozens of decoys. Latest versions of the Satan class rockets can launch up to 100 nuclear fragments. Try hitting them all. Try intercepting a hundred rockets that can split into 100 missiles individually when detecting counter-measures. Mutually assured anihilation guaranteed.

US prospered partially due to its isolation from enemies that could cross the borders by land. Last World War still required ships for the delivery of payload. The best in tech - German rockets could only hit as far as Britain when launched from Berlin. The luxury of safe distance no longer exists. And there are subs. Nuclear subs. The inhabitants of such subs will likely be the last living survivors of any great conflict.

Russia is one big pie that no one can bite.

The best attempt happened from Western infiltration in the early 90's, when Russia practically surrendered to the IMF. It is a pure miracle that Putin was able to stage a turnaround and change things in his favor. But he's not immortal. He's truly one of a kind and that means, he can eventually be replaced by a Yeltzin-like puppet or eliminated. I'm very surprised he's still alive and curious how many assassination attempts he managed to survive thus far. I bet there were many. Maybe he's more convenient to have as a boogeyman before the actual invasion. Who knows.

Tue, 07/29/2014 - 20:11 | 5020274 JohninMK
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First class analysis.

Wed, 07/30/2014 - 08:15 | 5021801 TweedleDeeDooDah
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Odd... real intelligence shows that today's Russia has not changed a bit from the days of the USSR, particularly for the average person, but that society has been conditioned to accept it over the course of generations, leading some to believe that they "need" a leader like Stalin. The kind of corruption inU ukraine is the same as endemic in Russia.... anyone who owns a business in, say, Odessa, knows that the graft guarantees a successful business, only that the more "success", the more the graft increases... it just isn't worth it to succeed in any sphere of Russian influence.... success has three possible outcomes: sell, get forced out of business, or be "put out of comminssion".

There are many thousands of Russian Ukrainians who are trying to leave Ukraine for, get this - Lithuania. They were actually happier in a whole Ukraine, and now see no future in the fractured part of a country where drunk old yokels yearn for "the good old USSR"... if they could only visit Russia to see what it all really means, beyond Pugachova, Galkin, and Kirkorov smiling and never saying (or being allowed to be) anything critical of anything of political import.

Even more telling is that Russians in former Soviet republics choose to keep their Russian citizenship (even in what Russian media calls the most "anti-Russian of places, the Baltic republics), hoping that someday they will find a Russia worth returning to... they haven't yet.

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