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Canadian Doctor Quarantines Himself Over Ebola Fears After Returning From Liberia
Earlier today we wondered, rhetorically, if the CDC was wrong when it stated, with confidence, that there is "little risk" for the Ebola virus to leave the African continent, and cross the Atlantic, landing in North America. We may have gotten the official refutation less than 6 hours later, when moments ago Canada's CTV reported that a Canadian doctor is in self-imposed quarantine after spending nearly a month in West Africa treating patients in the deadly Ebola outbreak that has claimed nearly 700 lives. "Dr. Azaria Marthyman of Victoria, B.C. was among a handful of Canadian health-care workers who traveled to Liberia, where the Ebola epidemic is currently raging. He was part of a North American team from the Christian relief organization Samaritan’s Purse." This is the same charity organization whose two US citizen members were previously reported to have caught the virus.
Dr. Azaria Marthyman of Victoria, B.C. is seen putting on protective
gear before treating Ebola patients in Liberia.
Dr. Marthyman worked at the agency’s facility in Liberia’s capital, Monrovia, before returning to Canada last Saturday. While he has not tested positive for the disease, he has quarantined himself as a precaution.
And immediately, the attempt to spin this as good news emerges: "Azaria is symptom-free right now and there is no chance of being contagious with Ebola if you are not exhibiting symptoms," Melissa Strickland, a spokesperson for Samaritan’s Purse, told CTV Vancouver Island.
That last statement may be worth a #timestamp, especially considering that one of Marthyman’s colleagues with Samaritan’s Purse, Dr. Kent Brantly, is confirmed infected. The 33-year-old married father of two children is undergoing intensive treatment for the disease, but has been able to speak with doctors and work on his computer.
From CTV:
Health care workers undergo rigorous decontamination processes to avoid infection.
“It takes about 45 minutes to suit up before going into the isolation area,” Marthyman said by telephone.
His journey to West Africa is not his first to an area ravaged by disease or disaster. Last year, he travelled to the Philippines to provide medical care to victims of Typhoon Haiyan. In 2010, he joined a medical team that treated patients affected by a cholera epidemic in Haiti.
In an interview prior to his trip to Haiti, the father of seven shared why he risks his life to help others.
“We have this slogan at home that we always say at the table, and it’s ‘do your share and let the love go around,’” Marthyman said.
We congratulate Dr. Marthyman for doing the right thing, and we certainly hope that all of his Ebola tests turn out negative.
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I swear this was a Kurt Vonnegut plotline
Coming to DC, for real... read this...
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/ebola-coming-to-d-c-every-precau...
Like uh, WTF? Whatever....
I just hope that Dr. Marthyman and his whole team are extremely careful...
Weren't they the acknowledged experts in communicable Ebola virus, containment and proper bio clothing systems?
this may be uncomfortable, but I'm gonna stick my finger up your sweaty nutsack hole and want you to cough ... again ..... one more time ....
They're human beings doing exhaustng work in shitty conditions. Slip-ups are bound to happen.
What a guy. What a guy.
I'm sure the people who shared the flight back from Africa to Canada think he's just swell.
“We have this slogan at home that we always say at the table, and it’s ‘do your share and let the love go around,’
Roughly translates to "Ebola for everyone, yay!"
Hoary Marthy's Vineyard. This org is turning into Samaritan's Curse.
Love go around? Yea, this won't end well.
Samaritan's Ebola.
That a communist manifesto if I ever heard one.
At least there are no “death trains” connecting West Africa and the US.. maybe only “death planes”..
I'd trust a shoe bomber over a christian missionary hell bent on delivering us the rapture.
Sounds great!
Now go make friends with that shoe bomber, K?
Better yet, why don't you go whip some chemicals together and shake 'em up?
Like, say, nitric acid and glycerin?
Sayonara, pumpkin.
Fuck Ebola. Buh Bitcoin now!!
trucoin is offline now for a while, their "beta" is over. I am trying expresscoin and (tonight) indacoin to see how they go.
Here's a song for you:
"gh0atriders in the Sky"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fdCuRKatjs
Nitric acid (available at your local Jewelry Supplyhouse), Sulfuric Acid (available as Battery Electrolyte at your local Auto Parts Store) and Glycerin (available at your local Wal Mart Pharmacy or Confectionary).
Now all one needs to do is mix and wait. THe generated heat will set off the Nitroglycerin reaction and blow to Kingdom Come anything it is placed by.
You do not need the Nitroglycerin to generate the Nitroglycerin Explosion. All you need to do is add the components together and not use an ice bath...
...preferably by a building's Gas Meter for excellent destructive results...
Now that I have instructed you on the method on how to remove a building...and I have posted my address...
Abbie Hoffman's "Steal this Book" was among my reading materials as a delinquent youth.
Some things can't be "unlearned".
Shouldn't he have quaranteened himself before going through a busy airport and getting locked into an international plane ride with several hundred other innocent people?
only if he wanted to die in africa or wanted to infect a plane, either way these religious nuts should be screened by tsa as a no fly risk.
I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU DO THIS, BUT...
Shooting down Passenger Jets is relatively easy if you want to act unilaterally to close the airports.
All one needs to do is target the Engines and have enough Kinetic Energy to do so.
The Engines have a Fail Safe shut down mode of 26 Dynes in case of a Bird Strike to mitigate engine damage. If you can deliver 26 Dynes then you can shut down the engines of any aircraft when they are departing or arriving. They need the engines operating for both operations as most runways are too short for an airliner to stop without the Thrust Vectoring.
Now generally a Bullet will not be able to impart that kinetic energy.
But a small Rocket armed with an Exploding Warhead will.
How can you miss at 100 feet?
When that is done the FAA will shut down air travel for most as unsafe.
Instead of "blaming the Christians" you can do this if you want. You can unilaterally act to do it. I have given you more than enough information.
Is 150 lives worth 300 Million?
Now personally I will not act.
BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT IF IT WERE NOT CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES THEN IT WOULD BE OVERSEAS BUSINESSMEN BRINGING THE DISEASE HERE.
CHINA is the next place where it will appear...They are not Christian.
But you are now empowered with the knowledge to act unilaterally...and affectively.
So if you do not take personal responsibility and act then I am rather tired of reading your whines you pusillanomous pissmeyer.
You are so afraid of death it has you pissing in your shorts.
As for me...I cannot care less whether we live or die. It does not matter.
No good deed goes unpunished.
Is this the guy from The Marthyman Prophecies? No, that's not it...
"It's all contained." Trust them. It's the Gubmint Man speaking.
Unlike the US, where everybody is "American", Canada is culturally sensitive to and respectful of the origin of its Citizens: They are Hyphenated-Canadians, not just "Canadians".
Eg., German-Canadian, Polish-Canadian, Pakistani-Canadian.
What kind of X-Canadian is the good doctor? Please don't say Ebola-Canadian.
WHO is trying to send an infected Ebola patient to Germany.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10998367/Ebola-...
They can't even keep their own doctors safe, but somehow they'll ship this patient all the way to Germany without any risks or spread of the virus.
"WHO is trying to send an infected Ebola patient to Germany."
Abbott: WHO is trying to send an infected Ebola patient to Germany.
Costello: Then who gets it?
Abbott: Germany.
Costello: Germany.
Abbott: Now you've got it.
Costello: The infected Ebola patient goes to Germany.
Abbott: No! He goes to WHO!
Costello: Germany.
Abbott: Well, that's it—say it that way.
Costello: That's what I said.
Abbott: You did not.
Costello: I said the infected Ebola patient goes to Germany.
Abbott: You didn't! He goes to WHO!
Costello: Germany.
My apologies - couldn't resist the perfect set up.
It was Sheik Umar Khan they wanted to fly to Germany. Unfortunately that's no longer necessary.
Of course. You don't think that Germany has its own version of Ft. Detrick?
Sometimes, HOW you see the problem IS the problem. -Kirk out.
"Kurt Vonnegut" I love that guy's books. Read them all back in the 90's.
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/04/kurt-vonneguts-...
Sheik Umar Khan, the doctor who was heading the fight against ebola in Sierra Leone, just died:
http://www.sierraexpressmedia.com/?p=69460
The media slobbers over "first responders" like cops, firemen, etc. We should all remember healthcare workers who walk towards real danger to help others. Many of those who have died from ebola are actually docs, nurses and volunteers who put themselves in harm's way to help their fellow man.
I have two fellow microbiologists that have died catching organisms we have isolated from patients. One was a supervisor with 30 years experience that followed protocol to the letter. She died of Meningococcemia. I handled the same isolate. We thought it was just a coincidence and sent the bug to the cdc to be sequenced. Yes, it was inescapable she caught it from this patient.
Even with modern technology things do happen. I am always aware of the dangers of my job. The nurses and Drs have it even worse than I do. I keep them and their families in my thoughts and prayers everyday.
Miffed;-)
i like your posts. they are a refreshing smattering of real facts set against a real world threats. i have a thing about reality, i seek it out in its purest form.
I agree. But reality seeking can make a person very unpopular. Bring up a reality based conversation about economics, foreign policy or even health care and watch people shun you.
It takes super human courage to work with Ebola patients. But it should also take real common sense for the workers to avoid bring it outside the zone they are working. Like this doctor who treated Ebola patients and then got right on a plane to Canda, without staying there outside the health care facility until he was certain he could not carry any disease.
I imagine he thinks he got it, and just wanted to come home quickly for the best chance at survival. Everyone wants to be sympathetic, but if the guy is going to hang around in a BSL-4 hot zone all the time treating ebola then he can't likely just plan on jumping on a plane and heading home at the first sign of sniffles, can he? In for a penny is in for a pound, Sparky.
Maybe played too many video games as a kid. Hey look I'll just respawn back at the lab in BC ...
Kent Brantly's condition is deteriorating:
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/North-Texas-Doctor-Fighting-Ebola-Asks-...
What a horrible nightmare. I really hope they get this under control soon.
"[Kent] followed protocol and the source [of the infection] is unknown at this time."
That just makes my skin crawl.
WTF do they mean is unknown? How did he get ebola and not know how he got it? Maybe they meant it another way, but that how they put it, and I don't know why they would.
Big red flashing warning signs right there, people.
Watch out.
I think if it was spreading through the air, way more people would have been infected by now. He might have accidentally wiped some sweat off his face before he was fully decontaminated, or any number of other possibilities.
Once you get to biosafe level 4 there are not as many possibilites as you think. Maybe they were sloppy, happens. I got a bad feeling either way cuz that was a long jump even for ebola.
Keep in mind that Brantly isn't a CDC or MSF specialist. He's just an ordinary doctor working for this Samaritan outfit. It's not unlikely that he was less careful than someone trained to deal with ebola or marburg would be.
@ Jack Burton: "But reality seeking can make a person very unpopular"
Yes, you got that right. If you want to test this on even ardent "realists" on ZH, just try to tell them that their basis for an invisible and untestable product ('God') is not based on reality, but pure propagation of fears, hopes and wishes, and see what reaction you get.
As I've said a number of times... "People claim they want the truth. Not true. What 95% really want, is truth that's consistent with their worldview". Aka "Affirmation Bias". You try to shake their worldview -- especially if they're deeply 'invested' -- and see what reaction you get.
I agree about reality but it doesn't make me popular at parties. At least not until the alcohol has loosened up the fixed-gazed guests. Then the conversations and responses become more interesting. Long lasting, I am unsure.
I do admit having a chuckle over your avatar which was taken from a plastic surgery site of a woman showing off her enhancements. Perhaps lies are more attractive than realities in certain cases.
Miffed;-)
Milfred you strike me as a lady in her late fifties, early sixties with brown graying hair in a pony tail with glasses that have the a loop holding them around your neck when you are not using them.
I'm blond shoulder length hair blue eyed. 36D 30 40. I am 5'4" and 53. I do not wear glasses except to drive. I love to listen to Tool and Korn as I drive home 85mph on the freeway.( have numerous tickets) I enjoy tantric sex, good food, Horseback riding, gardening, target shooting and power yoga. I have been married for 30 years to my high school sweetheart. I'm a rational prepper and a lover of PMs. And unlike you I wax rather than shave. Mr doesn't like stubble.
Your psychic powers are a bit off.
Miffed;-)
Miffed...
There is a way of slowing the spread if not containing the Ebola infection.
Nuke Lagos?
They are all dead anyway.
You can bet that the option is being considered as I write this.
It is cold and cruel. But it is a solution.
Me thinks you should change your nick to milfed microbiologist
COSMOS...You strike me as a hot looking, young, twenty-something year old who has problems with appropriate discernment, at times.
(Don't ever give me TMI again, please.)
Is that you in the picture?
But it is funny that I had previously pictured Miffed in the same way....so I will have to give you that.
Of course my psychic powers are also way off...often at times.
Miffed is a good woman, sweetie.
Very Howard Roark. I like it!
Yeah and you don't want to be the one studying a pathogen that just learned some new trick nobody was aware of.
That was an easy bet.
"is Only Two Years Away From Running Out of Money"
It's ok, Yellen and the Federal Reserve Ponzi money printing team will print up trillions more.
no what they did before was just take more of the Social Security money to go to the disability payments....just theft..so that 2033 year will move up to 2023 or something....those estimates are way off....but the politicans want it that way....its on someone elses watch always..
Higher extraction, taxes, in 3..2..
They only admit such things when they are angling for more extraction.
A local parks district near me was fanatical about defending the condition of the parks under their thumb for several years. Then about six months before a local election they, in conjunction with the local complicit media, began to highlight the bad conditions of the parks. Bada-bing, next thing one knows they are "asking" for more loot from their victims--"For the parks and the children." LOL
"Guillotines work on the local level as well."
There's a thriller just out called "I am Pilgrim". The threat is a homemade, completely resistant strain of smallpox. Scary
So ebola is the solution that to make ss solvent?
I have watched so many people who are middle age or even younger give up all attempts at employment and go the Social Security Disability path. It is out of control! In my small town about 1 out of four people over 50 are on SS disability. Even young people know the game and are making bids to get on it. It is now a scam! Many of them could work.
Yes, wait until the free money and EBT dissapears.
Then 95% of the "disabled" will suddenly be "cured".
Close the Canadian border......we already have enough progressive disease in the US.
/s/?/s/
RIPS
Ebola reaches North America.....shit's gettin real
Yes, particularly if the rumors of airborne contagiousness of ebola are true.
You must exchange precious bodily fluids to contract ebola
....for now?
If you want to contact Ebola try 818-091-0264
"....for now?"
Well that's the problem, isn't it. Just when you think you have a handle on things ...
"Some scientists already worry that Ebola could mutate and become airborne. Recent outbreaks have suggested it can evolve on its own. All the Ebola subtypes have shown the ability to be spread through airborne particles under research conditions."
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0219_030219_ebolaorigin_...
What makes all these bugs time bombs is the constant of evolution. Evolution could kill it off, or it could favor a mutation creating easier transmission. The flu is just a series of animal virus that mutate to live in humans.
It's not even a question of could. At this point it comes down to when. Ebola is clearly doing well in humans and I sense it is now spreading easier than it used to, and taking seasoned researches unaware. If it becomes only slightly less lethal and learns how to spread readily during the incubation period then we've got a serious contender.
EDIT: the case of the doctor returning to Texas has me freaking out a little right now.
And not to be a Debbie Downer about it, but if ebola can get through multiple layers of specialized protective clothing that take an expert a half-hour just to put on, then how much trouble is ebola going to have infecting me (in my bathrobe and pajamas)?
I admire the doctor's altruism, and I applaud his service to humanity, but somehow I also get a mental image of one of those well-intentioned pentacostal snake handlers, and they seem to get bitten rather often.
(Full disclosure: I'm not really Amish. It's just a screen name, bitchez.)
I saw "Kingpin" and those Amish folks didn't wear bathrobes.
...and they are not big on milking bulls.
Did I just wake up in Opposite World???
Seriously.
The dude abides.
I think if you get the full footy pajamas you'll be safe.
lulz
"but if ebola can get through multiple layers of specialized protective clothing"
Makes me wonder if the wee beastie has gotten ahead of us.
And I am not really Jack Burton, driver of "the pork chop express" and a star off "Big Trouble in Little China".
And he came in on which flight? I'd be shitting myself at this point if I was on that plane! If literally that would be trouble.
And you travel to Canada from Liberia how often?
Hub and Spoke.
"No one knows for sure just how many people Patrick Sawyer came into contact with the day he boarded a flight in Liberia, had a stopover in Ghana, changed planes in Togo, and then arrived in Nigeria, where authorities say he died
days later from Ebola"
I don't know of any direct flights from Liberia to Canada, and don't get me started on the men's room at ACC (Kotoka International in Accra)...
OK I'll bite. Tell us about the men's room at Kotoka International in Accra
If you stick your foot under the stall next to you.......never mind.
I wouldn't do that even in the women's room of that place (an earth-tone paint job might help with the psychological yuck factor though)...
29 Jul 1942: Japanese troops attacked Kokoda airfield in Australian Papua. http://ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?battle_id=288 …
New diseases will appear and it will take time to find cures. Dr, I applaud your efforts to help people but mother nature will win in the long run........
As a rule, there are no cures for viral infections. They do not respond to antibiotics at all. Science can sometimes create a vaccine (which is just weak virus) to help you keep from getting an infection, but once you ever get the pathogen, that's usually it. If it's also lethal, sorry.
Ebola is very scary as a pathogen. Not so much as an epidemic because it is hard to spread. But if it ever learns how to spread itself, we have a really serious problem.
Personally, I like the the sloughing of the intestinal lining.
Little tough as a slimming cure.
Like 11 in "craps".
The Hard Way
It's almost a certainty when you lick the men's room floor at the Hollywood Greyhound station
Gum fell out of my kids mouth in a stall in the jersey turnpike reststop, dont remember the age but little. She put it back in her mouth before she could be stopped. Several years later she's fine. I figure she's innoculated.
LOL!
While it's true antibiotics don't work for viruses, there are lots of anti-viral drugs. Even a few cures. Genentech's new drug cures Hepatitis C for most people. The various anti-HIV drugs are not exactly a cure, but... Some anti-viral drugs can knock down a viral infection to spead recovery. I suspect that's where the research will go with ebola - find an anti-viral agent that will give the body a chance to fight off the virus.
It's cheaper and easier to avoid anal sex
with monkeys
You may spank the monkey, but not eat it. And "spank the monkey" is a figure of speech.
Unless the monkey insists.
Anti-virals might work on something slow-moving and nonlethal, HIV being an example. (NOTE: HIV does not kill you. It weakens your immune system and something else kills you, which can take a long time, and that something else might even be treatable.)
Ebola and Marburg and their kin are fast moving and directly lethal. So in that case no, anti-virals won't have a chance to do shit. I serioiusly doubt there will ever be a "cure" for this. Maybe when infected you could (with the right treatment delivered early) survive it, but for all that you won't escape it. And at the moment there is no treatment I am aware of not sure how there could be, your whole body wants to turn into a puddle of goo.
If you consider the advancement of the disease as a case of acute induced scurvy, you can see where part of the help of the Vitamin C would come from. It maintaining the collagen, and therefore, the structural integrity of the body, the usual cause of death from the infection could probably be circumvented. This would be in addition to the viral neutralizing properties of ascorbic acid. Compare the symptomatology of the ebola infection and acute scurvy.
Compare the symptomatology of the ebola infection and acute scurvy.
That's just about the least appropriate suggestion I've seen here in a long time.
Might as well compage the symptoms of a garden spider bite with that of a cobra.
Not sure why you would dismiss this so quickly. Both cause breakdown of soft tissue which leads to bleeding.
I'm just a keyboard jockey with a thirst for knowledge. Googling his theory brought one pretty quick hit that the poster above is not alone in his thought process.
http://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/ebola.htm
Granted, it is a foundation which pimps vitamin C, but that doesn't mean there isn't some truth buried in there somewhere.
Vitamin C in large doses, especially given intravenously, or as an injection, works very well against all virus infections as can be attested to by the work of Dr. Klenner http://seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinical_guide_1988.htm You can also look up the works of Dr. Cathcart, Dr. Levy, Irwin Stone, and others who have studied and put into practice the use of Vitamin C against viruses.
As I noted in another post here on ZH when this was first coming to light, the reservoirs for this virus also happen to be on the very very short list of animals that don't manufacture their own vitamin c.
Long Vitamin C.
Unforetunately my local Denny's doesn't offer intravenous orange juice
So you choose to die instead?
"as can be attested to by the work of Dr. Klenner"
So how about the rest of the scientific world? You know those other 1 million or so trying to save lives, they down with this? Cuz otherwise that sounds really idiotic.
Are you suggesting that fringe elements with different views or experiences are wrong? Or that perhaps established systems, be it medical, financial, governmental, etc. always have the people's interest at heart and operate as benevolent gatekeepers who always have the right answer in addition to the ONLY answer?
Whatever. Injecting Vitamin-C to cure viral infections is loopy. There is no demonstrated pathway for effectiveness. If you want to appeal to magic go ahead, but that's what makes it loopy.
All the rest of that was just you bitching, and I don't have to care about your personal issues.
No, you don't have to care. And because you don't know the demonstrated pathway does not make it ineffective. Begging the question using terms as "loopy" and "magical" are not sound logical arguments. You can simply state you don't believe it would work because you are ignorant of the information, and that would be sufficient. You could also state you didn't research any of the information, look up any of the doctors, or even bother to skim over the linked article. That would also have been an appropriate response.
Loopy or not, dead is dead, alive is alive. I will take my Vitamin C while you do nothing and die.
I'm not even sick, nor are you. Starting to sound a little bit unhinged there.
I consider CBs and fiat money a viral infection - which are responsible for the death of millions of people, and the suffering of billions.
And yet I don't see people up in arms about that. Wake me when Ebola hits 0.01% of the US population. Or, better still, when it hits "The 0.01%". I'll say Kadish for them. /s
In related news; the entire continent of Africa has placed itself under self quarantine. So please do not worry.
Another doctor has just died:
http://www.sierraexpressmedia.com/?p=69460
In the end it just might be the doctors spread it out of Africa
Is that crazy or what?
But yeah, that's the deal. For 20 years they thought they had a handle on things then one day PING the beastie fools you and you come home unaware that you are covered in the newest solution for urban overpopulation.
"We congratulate Dr. Marthyman for doing the right thing, and we certainly hope that all of his Ebola tests turn out negative."
Is taking a flight back to Canada THEN self-quarantining "the right thing"?
Indeed, bring on the next manchurian candidate...
No it isn't.
But no civilized person wants to die that way in Africa.
how do you spell love?
, . as is do your share and let the "ebola "go around....7 kids did he have contact with them after his flight? did he notify his fellow passengers he was an ebola care giver?
this slogan at home that we always say at the table, and it’s ‘do your share and let the love go around,’”
As long as he was not flying with regular sized toothpaste, the passengers should be OK.
If the claim that you are not contagious if exhibiting no symptoms, then it's "ok".
But what if that is not "quite" true. E.g. Are you contagious JUST BEFORE you show signs? How many MINUTES before or after showing symptoms are you contagious? Seriously.
If there's a chance that he becomes contagious during the flight, then he should've taken a flight on a transport plane or RCAF plane.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/world/middleeast/gaza-israel-violence.html?_r=0
Stop with the off-topic comments already.
" ... in the middle of a documentary on ebola in Africa."
See?
Don't read them if you don't like them. Most of us are here because we are information junkies, and the commentators help provide it.
Your off topic right now....Dope. I pass on the info if you don't like it go watch TV
Listen dick, it's a thread about ebola, not Gaza. And it's "you're," not "your." Go back to twittering with the other illiterates.
This Dick is dangling in your mouth and my balls are bouncing off your chin.
That's a good way for both ya to contract ebola. See? On topic
looks like the rules of fight club are gonna have to change due to the ebola outbreak.
anything goes but no physical contact...and try not to fling your sweat around.
LOL. Just when I thought that ZH was becoming gentrified and turned into the Debate Club...
Just like Israel's bulldog, the DC US, bomb the infrastructure and then have your profiteer buddies come in after to make billions in "reconstruction."
I am sure that their Rothschild friends will even loan Gaza the fiat to pay for it all as well.
“We’re ‘chosen’ so you can’t chose.”
I thought this article was about the Redskins
As long as the top 10% aren't at risk, there's nothing to worry about.
As long as Jamie's bonus is secured it's all good.
I live in Minnesota. We have taken thousands of refugees from different African nations for 20 years or more now. I don't need to tell you that air travel back and forth is frequent. Todays MPR had a story about a Minnesota woman who traveled back to Nigeria, or one of those nations, and she now has Ebola and is stuck back there.
Do I need to paint the picture. She doesn't show signs yet and is able to board that plane and soon is back at MPLS international airport? I travel a lot, or used to, by air. I know how easily you can get around, heck, if I wanted, right now I could drive 30 miles buy a ticket and be in most African nations by night fall. HOW LONG, before an infected person lands in the USA?
I am familiar with Ebola as I used to read articles about infectious diseases from a scientific journal. In the past, Ebola would pop up in an isoltaed village, and 9 people would die before it was snuffed out by health workers. Right now this outbreak is 1,000 times worse than any I have ever read about. I would say that this is now serious, deadly serious business. The god of Open Borders that the west worships at is going to bring something evil our way, the law of averages dictate that it will happen. This Minnesota woman was what I would call a close call, had she made it home, Ebola would be in Minnesota/
If I was a muslim terrarists.... I know what I would do right about now. Fucked up.
They know what they would do too.
Sucide ebola carriers are highly ineffective weapons so you really don't know.
Work in a restaurant, hotel or soup kichen?
Spit in the soup, glass...? Shake hands? Go to DC and shake politicians' hands? French kiss Pelosi, Yellen, Ginsburg, Mrs 0...?
"French kiss Pelosi"
Now that's just fucking gross.
True. And I felt icky, just typing it. But the point is, if you've got it and you want to take out some specific people, then I'm simply asking that they select the ones I used "for illustrative purposes"*
* The choice of words from my legal counsel advised, lest the DHS Nazis come knocking.
Well thank God the only open border we have is with Mexico
All any terrorist group has to do is send loads of ebola infected immigrants accross the border and send them to places like Manhatten NY, to work in the high end resturants or around hollywood. High-profile people infected/dying of Ebola would be a big deal. It's worse than 911.
Yeah but they have a thirty day limit...
That trip would take weeks. These people are dead in days. As sad as it is, I'm thankfull for them, and us, that they don't suffer walking around for all that long.
doesn't take weeks to fly them into northern Mexico and have them rape children that Obama is sending all over the US by curiously super-secret government express...